I think I speak for all Black/African Americans tuning in… if you all ever have this conversation or a similar one again please invite different BAs, specifically ones that are proud BAs & can speak from different perspectives.
When you see these conversations across UA-cam you realize how it’s always narrated by Africans 😂 (because we don’t think about them) & they specifically pick black Americans (descendants of USA chattel slavery) with low self esteem/no knowledge of African culture & how they really get down (tribalism, virgina mutilation etc) therefore certain inaccurate statement from 3rd world Africans/immigrants are made without being checked
@@tharealisrael1447 They won't have the convo with ANYONE that know facts of Africa's History or shall I say non achievements and the political angst of the real reason they are allowed here in mass. NOTHING that they got came from ANYTHING Africans created. So how are you going to sit there and critique ANYTHING about Black Americans? Keep it classy or keep it moving and focus on the opportunity you have right now.
Actually, the African-American term was "coined" for Black Americans who descended from USA slavery. It wasn't coined for recent black African immigrants or ones who have an immigrant background. So if someone comes from Nigeria, then they would call themselves Nigerian American not African-American. Because African-American is the actual "ethnic/lineage group." But since there are more Black Africans who are coming over and having kids, then the best description for Black American Natives is being called generational African-American,ADOS or FBA since black children of immigrants living in the USA "adopt" that African-American culture.
I think our identity is being erased and it’s done purposely. I’m am a light skin, light eye type 3 hair black/African American, on recent years I’m being told that I am not black or African American. Many Africans are now identifying as Black/African American and only when you ask their ethnicity do they say their from Nigeria or else where. Blackness is no longer about being directly connected to the African slaves on this land, some of us who are connected to the slaves here are being pushed out our own group because we don’t look “African” enough and others are claiming my ethnicity who have no connection, it’s weird.
My son is a senior in college and will graduate this coming May. He is now president of the student organization in a school that 94% of the students are whites. When he was in primary school his teacher called me to the school and told me that my son cannot comprehend things and was slow learner . I did not say anything. I started teaching him at home. Three months later,I was called back to the school. When I got there the principal and five other teachers were sitting down in the conference room. The first question they asked me was what I did with my son. I thought I am in trouble until they told me that my son was in 2nd grade and he is reading 5th grade level. They wanted to know the method I used.
Dude in the gray cap gets it. I'd love to hear his perspective uninterrupted. I wish they had a Black American man on the panel, and the Black women selected for this discussion...remind me that you can have an experience and be blind to the systems influencing your experience. But kudos to all of them approaching this conversation with such tact because it's beyond complicated. It's constructive conversations like these that will help humanity move forward.
Bottomline: anti-blackness is a global phenomenon. If we're going to put a stop to it, ALL BLACK PEOPLE need to stop ignorantly feeding into it. When African people unknowingly adopt white supremacist views about Black Americans, it's easier to weaponize them against the Black community and make them complacent in our mistreatment. Meanwhile, Black Americans who fetishize African people and the African continent turn a blind eye to the negative impacts of colonization and often sink deeper into anti-FBA mindsets. These conversations have the potential to take the loaded gun out of the hands of our true enemy, white supremacists. Sincere gratitude is a form of acknowledgment. We can't correct the situation if we can't acknowledge it.@@Hismana-oi4yx
The no child left behind bill really hurt FBA children … My parents always valued education and the village helped raise us. Africans have benefited from programs that were established for FBA and maybe it would be more equitable if Africans established their own programs and that would lessen tensions. Also Africans should learn our history.
Black American female older millennial here, and I really enjoy the podcasts you all are putting out (I’m late I know 😌) On this particular episode, I truly enjoyed Vida (keep glowing Sis and rocking that beautiful fro), Willy (your empathy and compassionate words are appreciated 😌) and Manny (your comedy and don’t sweat the small stuff attitude is a breath of fresh air, TY 🙂). I am so happy, that you guys are working on, building relationships between Africans (specifically East Africans) and Black Americans. Every conversation, helps to build a bridge to understanding, growth and real dialogue. Keep on keeping on y’all!
The men are giving valid points from a systematic perspective. The black American women are giving every consideration from a personal POV. Which is SO frustrating. Even the reason tension exists btw some black Americans and emigrated Africans is literally a system created by colonists
As a 44 year old African American.. this is such a great conversation. In the 90s era this conversation would’ve never happened. It was a different world then!
Race - Black, white etc Ethnicity (“tribes”) - Dinka, Nuer etc Nationality - South Sudanese / American / Canadian etc I personally don’t think African immigrants should call ourselves African American cause that is an ethnic identity ADOS created for themselves but I guess that’s a complicated matter. We are all Black but we need to respect African Americans’ distinct ethnic/cultural identity.
@@tjc8422 usually Black Americans say black American is an Ethnicity and now you are saying Africans who are citizens of America shouldn't called themselves African Americans what are they then?
Honestly I feel like there is under representation on the panel of African Americans. Most of the ones on the panel have grown up around Africans. My experience has been totally different since I was not raised around Africans. My issue has come from SOME older African men calling me lazy and saying my priorities are wrong due to not having children and not being married at 36. Also, my experience with SOME African women, they stick to their own people and do not view us as the same or include us in their spaces. Which even so, I still consider Africans as black but like your panelist said, I see them more as cousins. I have worked with a lot of Africans from different countries and most of them view African Americans as lazy and undereducated. Which is true because WE DO NOT GET THE SAME ADVANTAGES as African immigrants. We are not taught about resources available and we are not given the same information to get into the same circles. African Immigrants are not at fault, but we need you to understand that the younger generation has more of this information available because the older generation making it available so that the younger ones can progress and make change. We can even have the same credentials, and still not get the job just because we are black AMERICANS! They steal our looks, clothes, music, our styles, language, and more and gentrify it to make it acceptable. I understand about Africans have had their own struggles in Africa, but we are talking about the struggles of being Africa American. Our education system is still trying to erase our history and continue to put laws in place to hold us back. Immigrants of all kinds will not completely understand our struggle because the system wants us to fight and not join together and rise up!
Don't u think it's better panels with AA and africans that have been living around each other than africans and AA that have not? I mean who else than people that lived around each other and know about each other? The hate with AA vs africans is because u both have not lived amongst each other. These are very young people talking about their experiences. You older AA and africans have not do it right l. Let the young talk
These two AA/Black women are a very poor representation for this conversation. They both came off with lack of pride and knowledge of their people and history. I was disappointed as an AA in their contributions. Please invite better informed Black Americans of their history for future podcasts. Otherwise, this was a very interesting discussion. Surprisingly, the two men made the best overall points for both sides on this panel.
I love this conversation, but I feel like a lot of information is being left out on the Black American side. There are things like the Equal Opportunity Gap that Black Americans have to experience. So these programs are supposed to fill that gap. Do I blame Africans for taking advantage, no. I blame institutions bc they are finding other ways to use programs that were created for us. I also think you guys need to talk about the difference btwn race, ethnicity, and nationality. A lot of Black people don’t have a connection to Africa, so they prefer the term Black. I would call yall African first (or your country of origin ie Congolese), then African American, then Black. Just because our experiences are different. I like the phrase we are cousins in our Auntie home bc that’s exactly it. Personally for me I had experiences with Africans were they call us Black people drug dealers, lazy, thugs, and all of this other stuff. But it’s like we strive for yall to be successful here too. We think about different races and stuff when we fighting for people. (ie black people fighting for immigrants, Africans, Jewish people). So yeah we feel some type of way when Africans come rake opportunities and are complicit in things like racism. At the same time there are other privileges us Black Americans face (ie stronger passport). This is just feedback, but I don’t think you guys (except Willy and the teacher) came with enough research to talk about the systemic issues that face Black Americans. (ie medical racism, being testing on unwillingly, black men who are meeting us black women). But I do appreciate you guys mentioning how since you got exposure to white spaces (ie private school) you guys can network and do those things. Our families were only able to go to college recently (there are HBCUs but that’s in the majority of the South). So it’s not like our parents don’t encourage us… a lot do. They are concerned about things like affordability and they just don’t know. Also there are parents who work 2-3 jobs just to survive so they cant help their kids with school.
Came from TikTok! I'm a student at UNC and I love this dialogue. I find 43:31 so important when she (sorry im blanking on her name!) talks about "doing college the wrong way" because she didn't have any experience once she graduated. I learned about this in a class I took last semester but this is a super common experience for minorities in higher education. Students from families with college degrees and/or from well-off families have prior knowledge to apply for internships and make connections. They are also financially able to take unpaid internships which are very common for undergraduate students. The experience they have during the summer paves the way for their future careers. Students from low-income households aren't able to have the luxury of unpaid internships, or if they're a first-gen students, no one is telling them to apply -- because how are they supposed to know if they never went to college? She did not "do college the wrong way," she did it the best way she knew how. It's not her fault, it's a system catered toward affluent white Americans.
Came here from TikTok. Appreciate the conversation. Wish it were longer and had more AA perspective because there are so many experiences and its not a one size fits all life. It was refreshing to hear that you all understand that ypur experiences are different and you understand that you have been given privileges that AA do not or it's harder for is to receive the benefits that you get.
I love south Sudanese people. They are beautiful. We don’t interact with a lot of them in black America. They are actually the key to a lot of African history. Immanuel is great energy. Ebony and other girl aren’t too smart. Please get more proud black Americans on your platform. Bless up.
I agree. Ebony and Gianna (I don’t know the spelling) perspectives are very different, which is fine, but I think a lot of what they’re saying isn’t really true for the rest of us.
By far my favorite episode. Like yall hit on soo many real relatable topics. When it all comes down to it all minorities were done foul but non minorities. Period. Signed Black American woman with African and Native American roots
I am glad I stumbled upon this conversation. It was good to hear African Americans by immigration championing African American Descendants of Slavery. I will say that there should have been a wider range of Black African Americans on this panel for perspective, because even our experiences will vary.
I was botn in Ghana when it was called Gold Coast. In those days in lived in two places. Cape Coast is my hometown where I go to school and stayed with my brothers and sisters. In those days there were many Europeans, Asians, Arabs and many blacks from other African countries in Ghana. During the long school vacation my mother,brothers, and sisters traveled to where my father worked as a doctor. We are the only blacks. All our neighbors were whites . Thanks to Nkurumah and others who fought for our independence and other African countries We did not have a lot of racism in Ghana. In Ghana those days we do not identify people by race. We called people by Mr.Mrs,and. Miss.Ghana was heaven from 1960 to 1966 until Nkurumah was overthrown by the CIA coup.
Sorry I’m commenting a lot, I was up all night studying and stumbling on this was a perfect decompress. I hope this video fuels more of these topics to be seen more vividly so we can bridge the gaps in our diasporas better and hopefully faster. I dream of the day when we all are able to truly interact with each other in communicative ways that make our lives universally better, without the influence of outside peoples. I love all my black people worldwide
Beautiful convo i love it.. been on channel but I've never listen to yall. I'm Ghanaian and must regardless of where you from and where you find yourself we must embrace each whether African American, or Africans. Thumbs up
@@rockb922 They appear to not have much Substance atleast on this Subject, I don't watch Ladies of Sosa much this Could be so much more informative and helpful if they would really stepped up.
lol there not Nubians. Only northern Sudanese and dark skinned Egyptians are descendent of Nubians. Why do black Americans think anyone can be a Nubian. Dam culture vultures
ME and other FOUNDATIONAL BLACK AMERICANS hate the term "AFRICAN AMERICAN" because it makes seem like we're Immigrants in America and we aren't Immigrants at all.
You speak for yourself and your immediate family. What survey did you do and give to the 40+ million African Americans, that agree with this narrative? The term African American was coined in the 1700s by our ancestors as they gained their freedom. SELF DEFINED. We not dropping or handing it over to immigrants because they make you feel uncomfortable.
@@HonorableSienna that's a bs IMMIGRANT term and we aren't IMMIGRANTS as BLACK AMERICANS/FBA'S and that bs term was created by the sellout JESSE JACKSON goofy.
@dengmii Exactly! As a Black American if I move to or is born in Sudan. I have no choice but to be immersed in Sudanese Culture. But it doesn't make me Sudanese. It give me NO RIGHTS to claim, change or speak for or as a Sudanese. I have the obligation to Sudanese Culture. We are genetically connected. Why can't we come together, and respect each other as two ethnic groups who share the same ANCIENT GRANDPARENTS? Black Americans are CENTURIES removed from Africa. Of course we are our own ETHNIC GROUP, history, achievements, culture, customs, and beliefs to same as Sudanese and the 2999 other TRIBES in Africa. The HISTORY of CHATTEL SLAVERY in this country gives us a UNIQUE LINEAGE that we will NEVER allow to be invaded or diluted. Sudanese nor Africans have that HISTORY here. It has nothing to do with us not liking you.
@@naturalmoments9319 They are CRAFTY and the two girls and one guy are full of it and following the agenda. The other brother seem to have found, understand and embraced the Black Americans that accepted him as family. I've never known our mothers, fathers and grandparents to mistreat or reject any kids. We're not the ones saying stay away from the African kids like their parents saying stay away from the AKATAS. But when the police jack you up, or a racist jam you up, you want help from the AKATAS. I'm now SELECTIVE not COLLECTIVE when it comes to other groups. "ALL SKIN FOLKS AIN'T KINFOLKS. I'm not going to stand silent while our students are pushed out of institutions and opportunities our people blood and bodies paid for. They fought and died for their children to have opportunities and resources. We did the hard work and paid the price! If you want to be accepted, don't come here thinking you're entitled. I don't care if you were born here or immigrated here and got citizenship. As you stated, it makes you just an "AMERICAN, by birth because your parents came in over the border or as a REFUGEE!" It doesn't and will never make you BLACK AMERICAN/AFRICAN AMERICAN!
Only watched about 15 mins I feel like this whole discussion could have been different if the difference between race and ethnicity was brought up and established but I could be wrong 🤷🏾♂️
My dad was a haitian doctor i know many haitians when they come take their GEd english courses. My dd said never aim for a c aim for an A. There is also a class thing
@LoganWillard because she is a Black American who took a DNA test that told her that she is a descendant of someone from current day Cameroon. Remember that we Black Americans are descendants of West and Central Africans brought to America to be enslaved 300 to 400 years ago.
She's not actually from Cameroon. There was no Cameroon when her West African ancestor was brought to America in chains to be enslaved. Whatever DNA test she took told her that she had an ancestor from what is now Cameroon.
As a college student, we feel compelled to identify ourselves as Africans rather than using the term "black." At one point, I engaged in a discussion with many African American females who explicitly referred to themselves as "We the black girls," specifically calling out names and intentionally excluding me from that group. That surprised me and taught me that the term 'black' now has a category.
akursanto7174 The word "BLACK" always has a category. Are they suppose to change their culture and language for you? When Africans go to China do you tell the Chinese the same thing? Why do Africans think you can come here among Black Americans and suddenly you're Black American, entitled to our culture, history, lineage and achievements? You do that NOWHERE else but in the U.S.! You're not Illiterate, so you know it is impossible from someone from another culture to move to another country and suddenly you become another groups ethnic group. This is beginning to sound like an AGENDA!
@@msrubie11 Thanks for your reply, however when African Americans think the term black is only for them it is very foolish to think so. We Africans don’t deny that we are Africans but we black too so it doesn’t make sense to tell someone not to regard themselves as black regardless of category. No African says they African Americans, or black Americans. We are Africans and it stops there, but when it comes to the term black we too can claim the identity because black is a color which we also carry. In fact true black comes from Africa. So basically African Americans or black Americans shouldn’t think we are weird to say we black.
@@akursanto7174 African Americans don't have to think anything about the term "BLACK" because "WE" choose it to identify us. It was our decision not to accept the names given us by the power structure. The minds of my ancestors were never enslaved. It seems yours evidently still is. "TRUE BLACK comes from Africa?" Please show us where TRUE BLACK comes from in Africa and when. I know you're going to do that because if you can't that makes you a liar. I know that you will REPRESENT YOUR ENTIRE CULTURE AND THE ENTIRE CONTINENT OF AFRICA by your response or non response. Now show us Africa using BLACK to IDENTIFIER prior to the 1960's! I know you can't do that because Black Americans COINED the term "BLACK" as the IDENTITY for our people in the 1960's. We formed the BLACK POWER MOVEMENT! We formed The BLACK FIST as a sign of BLACK LIBERATION. We formed the words BLACK IS BEAUTIFUL. James Brown gave us to phrase "BLACK AND PROUD!" It is Black Americans and only Black Americans who used the word BLACK to identify ourselves. . Black is Beautiful: The Emergence of Black Culture and ... National Museum of African American History and Culture nmaahc.si.edu › explore › stories › black-beauti... Pride and Power Black Americans donned styles connected to African heritage. Using a grooming tool like an Afro pick customized with a black fist was a way to ... Let me remind you that every opportunity you got came off the back of Black Americans. Please don't tell us what we can't STOP. Black American Culture, HISTORY and LINEAGE is something that doesn't belong to ANY group but Black Americans. Be proud to be African, because we both know many of you are not! I believe in proof. We know you can't show me Africans using the word Black prior to the 1960. But I can certainly show you're lying about using Black Americans designations! If you google your own identities you don't come up in the stats!
The conversation was good but the Black American representation was very poor. I don't know were you got those so called Black American women from on this panel. But the do not represent the Black American community.
I think being a haitian american born in haiti raised here ther eis a desperation when you are an immigrants quadruple that as a blk immigrants. Also mny blk immigrants who come here are also educated. Having an educated father hits different
Stop using “hotep” as a negative. Loving yourself all the way from your hair to your clothing is a very strong front against colonialism. Some of us need to analyze how we will go months without wearing our natural hair. That wasn’t happening even just 50 years ago for a lot of us. Now due to our idea of “freedom” given to us from eurocentric ideas we label our warriors as hotep or something. That is a colonized way of thinking.
This video is quite different from the usual videos I’ve watched…I am glad to hear these younger Sudanese Americans speaking about their experiences and issues ….Many of the other videos I have watched are primarily about Nigerians and all those videos do is emphasize how great and smart and successful Nigerians are compared to Black Americans….However; many, Black Americans have advanced degrees and stress education…. Most of the people in my Black American family have at least a Bachelor’s degree and some have a masters degree….
African American doesn't apply to immigrants nor their descendents. You're Sudanese American. And that's OK. African American is for those who descend from slavery in the USA. Please don't play with our terms just to fit in. It's disrespectful. Be Sudanese American. It's OK. It's beautiful.
First & foremost, i'd like to say I loved this conversation & appreciated the cultural competence and sympathy that was shown. I wanted to follow up with the statements indicating that African's aren't accepted outside of their own space/culture & I'd like actually present that as being the African American experience. Africans don't get hate from all around the world. We were brought to America to be hated as well with no sense of identity. Atleast someone gets sympathy from white folks because it's not us lol. But overall the conversation headed in the right direction. We're all Black & that's what I love about us so much because we come with so much diversity. I was disappointed with the responses of the AA because there was a lack of understanding what it means to be African American and systemic oppression. But I appreciated everyone's opinion, story, and perception.
There is hate for many Africans in many other countries. Africans in Isreal, China and India are being treated terrible. Some Africans are still enslaved today as well.
What we don't understand too is that African immigrants do get together with ADOS Americans Some are blended nowadays but that othering is still there.
Ebony reminded me of that Black maid woman in the movie Get Out, she need some camera flashing to get out the trance she's in lol, she looks crazy but she's beautiful though, but girl are you alright?
My view on this topic is, African-American, these are our brothers and sisters who drifted off from Africa to the USA during the slave trade and they ended up forming a community of their own color and for the reason they couldn't trace back their actual roots. Perhaps, they knew their ancestors were typically from Africa, that's where African-American is tagged in.... But all in all, we see them as our brothers & sisters.
It's this simple for me. We're all African people, belonging to different subcultures. It seems like most Black people from other parts of the diaspora be that the Caribbean, South America etc, when they're of African descent, they identify as such. And if you don't, that's fine with me as well. People with similarities in ideology usually find each other. The rest is irrelevant.
I find that the only people who call me African American are uncomfortable with my blackness and so I really don’t like the term African American. African immigrants are African American in my opinion and are also black Americans. I really don’t think there needs to be a separation among black people it’s just not necessary. We have as many similarities in culture as African countries have with each other.
“Education is liberation” was our elders mindset😭 that’s what the Slient Generation believed in & preached in the black community. That mindset died w younger boomers & GenXers unfortunately. Everything degrading in the black community today is the results of alot of what they did.
As an African British person, I find it challenging to connect with this topic. To my knowledge In Britain, there are no descendants of slaves primarily because the British dismantled and sold slaves, with a significant portion ending up in America. However, it's essential to remember that both black Americans and Africans share the same ancestors, particularly those from West Africa. Rather than perpetuating division and discrimination, African Americans and Africans must come together, share experiences, and learn from one another. African Americans may not be aware that Africans in Africa also endured slavery in Africa, as seen in countries like Sudan, where colonial powers such as the British imposed it. Today, the lingering effects of mental slavery persist among Africans globally. It's crucial for Africans, irrespective of their location, or place of birth to come together and thrive collectively. Being black signifies being African, irrespective of birthplace or residency. Just like when an African elephant gives birth to a baby elephant in America, the offspring remains an African elephant regardless of where they are. PS: Mental slavery would be a good topic to discuss on the podcast!
@@HonorableSienna their enemies were tribal neighbors. To be honest, you or I, or anyone you live was live to know 100% what happened. As a Blk American, today I am healthy, educated, well traveled, and financially stable. Not bad for a descendent of African slaves.
Black Americans have ancestors that have been in America since the start aka 1776 after they were sold by other West/Central Africans and neither Caribbean or Africans come from those ancestors like Black Americans Freeman do so we don't share the same ancestors.
@@yodad723 Why do you insist that Africans never attempted to intervene and free their enslaved counterparts? Despite contending with slavery and colonialism simultaneously within Africa, what evidence supports the claim that Africans never endeavored to cross the Atlantic Ocean to emancipate their people in America? The sale of individuals was prevalent in many communities, including among Africans who sometimes betrayed their own for various reasons. Even those Africans forcibly transported to America via slave ships often struggled for years to return to Africa, despite the inherent complexities of returning to a place where they were sold, why do you think that is?!
This reminded me of Uncomfortable Conversations with Emmanuel Acho. There’s no real critique there because Emmanuel clearly has an affinity for proximity to whiteness. And the African American presence here clearly has an affinity for Africaness. This conversation lacked real critique because the Black American presence clearly wishes to cosplay as continental Africans. Very uninformed and agreeable.
The "African American" name needs to be removed to and replaced with something else like when we were called "Freedman/Freedwomen". Freedman/Freedwomen Black Americans should be acknowledged as our ethnic group that can't be hijacked like we've been having to deal with because Freedman/Freedwomen Black American can't do the same thing with Caribbeans or Africans. There's no such thing as "Black racial unity" so we don't need to pander or "unify" to Africans or Caribbeans but we should cooperate with them. Pick better Freedman/Freedwomen Black Americans to represent us.
Africa is a continent it is NOT a country. West Africa is a region. The word, 'Akata' is associated with one country and one tribe should NOT be associated with all Africans and should NOT be associated with all african tribes
Hey y'all. My first viewing of the show and I love seeing us come together and talk about this stuff. I just have a question. What's up with the American slang of calling women "bad b**ches" and using the n word? Or shout outs to popular people and stuff. Like, what is "shout out Chadwick Boseman" doing for the conversation. It feels like it's an easy reach, low hanging fruit conversation that honestly feels very basic and pop and not channeling the REAL situations going on. It's like trying to be funny and cool, but comes off as uninformed, unfocused and unwilling to actually get to the why. I'm just a comment so don't take me too seriously, but personally as a pan African id love to see our young people conversations go deeper into bridging the gap of African Americans and Continental Africans in ways that highlight our oneness, without the fluff of "YAAAASSSSS" and cutting each other off to say impulsive non related commentary. I hope this makes sense! Beautiful set, great sound and lighting. I just want the conversation to be just as well thought out.
I know, not think we should have these conversations behind close doors, we are all Africans. No matter where you come from. We were torn away from each other, Africans were conditioned by colonization and Apartheid, Africans born in America were conditioned by slavery. Let's learn each other's story, heal together and pull together and close ranks. We are all we have. I was born in New York state,I'm a descendent of Africans that were enslaved. You have to study the history of Africans pre colonization and study the history of African Americans during slavery.
As a male Blk American listening! I loved this conversation. You guys were knowledgeable of our history and constraints. You were considerable of the privileges that Africans have in this country opposed to blk Americans. God bless you all ! & I am all for you exploiting your privileges in America!! This is what your Ancestry cousins died for in America 🇺🇸!
@@brotherkareem181 yes, being a migrant African in America; benefiting from what black Americans fought/died for would mean you’re in aunty house. It was a metaphor; in the podcast I referenced “we’re in aunty’s crib”.. agree or disagree i don’t care. Argue with ya momma
These immigrants need to check their immigration papers. They HAVE TO PERFORM AND PAY IMMIGRATION FEES. They can get deported if they act like FBAs! People need to read immigration laws! They LOOK LIKE THEY'RE A SUCCESS, BUT THEY HAVE TO TOW THE LINE!
The descends of slaves were identified as " Black American" exclusively but as years pass by the political arena changed a lot: the identification "BLACK American" took the connotation of RACISM. why others are not identified as " White American"? Hence the term " African American gained political weight despite the fact Black American were not displaying 100% African culture. In fact African immigrants are much more " African American" then the originally Black Americans. Remember " Rumble in the Jungle": When Muhamed Ali and George Foreman fought for heavy weight boxing match of the era in " Kinshasa" All Newspapers in Congo (Zaire), the rest of Africa and around the world identified the two prominent world champ boxers as " 2 BLACK AMERICANS fighting in African soil. Technically: The descend of slave should fit "BLACK AMERICANS" and the descend of immigrants " AFRICAN AMERICANS" because the have both cultures" especially those who were born here or come to the US at the below 5.
This was great conversation but I think there should be a different perspective from a black women who went to an HBCU because I’m a first generation HBCU graduate and my family pushed education and I know many people pushed for better education for their children. I feel like as an African woman in corporate America my family taught me to work 120 percent harder just be deemed as qualified. Growing up low income a lot people can’t afford college but is taught to be better than their parents and go to college. Their should be an African American man perspective because an African American men are often left out of conversation and don’t feel heard to say their experience. I feel like as African American we were taught the value of Africa and how we should visit the motherland.
@@brotherkareem181 you may not know that’s okay but I was raised in a pro black household and my church home focuses on black liberation theology so my pastor would often reference ancient Africa and African history and I have encountered many people during my hbcu experience who grew up in a pro black household as well
Se africans have our own land. We never said America is our land. Us being Americans doesn't mean our ancestral land is forgotten. And by the way America isn't you and white people land too. It belongs to Native indians
@@africaine4889An Inquiry Into the Distinctive Characteristics of the Aboriginal Race of America by Samuel George Morton It cannot be questioned that physical diversities do occur, equally singular and inexplicable, as seen in different shades of color, varying from a fair tint to a complexion almost black; and this too under circumstances in which climate can have little or no influence. So also in reference to stature, the differences are remarkable in entire tribes which, more over, are geographically proximate to each other. These facts, however, are mere exceptions to a general rule, and do not alter the peculiar physiognomy of the Indian, which is as undeviatingly characteristic as that of the Negro; for whether we see him in the athletic Charib or the stunted Chayma, in the dark Californian or the fair Borroa, he is an Indian still.
The speakers are racially black but their are not ethnically black. Also, they are not African-Americans. When referring to themselves, they should claim their tribal identities from their homelands: Hutu-American, Yoruba-American, Igbo-American, etc. African-American is reserved for FBA/ADOS.
“This not our country”…. Yo get shorty(the blk American girl) off the panel 😂 we don’t claim her Cream shirt was cooking It’s very systematic blk Americans created HBCUs etc & still get little funding
Im a black African American im 23 years old from Washington DC . We all black africans is my brothers and sisters . I’m African 💯💯💯 I would love to come to your podcast
Emanuel is very all or nothing in his thinking & interrupts way too much. Gotta let that ish go dude of whatever you’re holding on to that won’t allow you to see more outside of an all or nothing way of thinking. He was just negative even when it came to promoting himself. Like bro they tryna hype you up & support you & you’re just like nah I wanna keep it separate 😅 Loved this entire convo though because it’s much needed ❤
I think I speak for all Black/African Americans tuning in… if you all ever have this conversation or a similar one again please invite different BAs, specifically ones that are proud BAs & can speak from different perspectives.
Yes! Exactly my sentiments.
@jakeraaa69
I second that point!
When you see these conversations across UA-cam you realize how it’s always narrated by Africans 😂 (because we don’t think about them) & they specifically pick black Americans (descendants of USA chattel slavery) with low self esteem/no knowledge of African culture & how they really get down (tribalism, virgina mutilation etc) therefore certain inaccurate statement from 3rd world Africans/immigrants are made without being checked
Factz they won’t dare have this convo with Tariq nasheed or mouthy Meagan
@@tharealisrael1447
They won't have the convo with ANYONE that know facts of Africa's History or shall I say non achievements and the political angst of the real reason they are allowed here in mass. NOTHING that they got came from ANYTHING Africans created. So how are you going to sit there and critique ANYTHING about Black Americans? Keep it classy or keep it moving and focus on the opportunity you have right now.
Actually, the African-American term was "coined" for Black Americans who descended from USA slavery. It wasn't coined for recent black African immigrants or ones who have an immigrant background. So if someone comes from Nigeria, then they would call themselves Nigerian American not African-American. Because African-American is the actual "ethnic/lineage group." But since there are more Black Africans who are coming over and having kids, then the best description for Black American Natives is being called generational African-American,ADOS or FBA since black children of immigrants living in the USA "adopt" that African-American culture.
I think our identity is being erased and it’s done purposely. I’m am a light skin, light eye type 3 hair black/African American, on recent years I’m being told that I am not black or African American. Many Africans are now identifying as Black/African American and only when you ask their ethnicity do they say their from Nigeria or else where. Blackness is no longer about being directly connected to the African slaves on this land, some of us who are connected to the slaves here are being pushed out our own group because we don’t look “African” enough and others are claiming my ethnicity who have no connection, it’s weird.
I also think y’all should get other AA perspectives, because Ebony has perspective that doesn’t align with a lot of our perspectives.
Oh and I came over from TikTok
I really appreciate Willie’s ability to see each perspective in an unbiased way. This was a really good conversation to listen in on.
Me too
I’m AA and I love this content, you all are so beautiful and honest.
As a Foundational Black American (FBA) this conversation gives me hope. ✊🏾✊🏾
My son is a senior in college and will graduate this coming May. He is now president of the student organization in a school that 94% of the students are whites. When he was in primary school his teacher called me to the school and told me that my son cannot comprehend things and was slow learner . I did not say anything. I started teaching him at home. Three months later,I was called back to the school. When I got there the principal and five other teachers were sitting down in the conference room. The first question they asked me was what I did with my son. I thought I am in trouble until they told me that my son was in 2nd grade and he is reading 5th grade level. They wanted to know the method I used.
Dude in the gray cap gets it. I'd love to hear his perspective uninterrupted. I wish they had a Black American man on the panel, and the Black women selected for this discussion...remind me that you can have an experience and be blind to the systems influencing your experience. But kudos to all of them approaching this conversation with such tact because it's beyond complicated. It's constructive conversations like these that will help humanity move forward.
@CiaraRouege
How does this help FBA. Having to explain to Africans why they should be great full for what we did in our homeland and not be enemies.
Bottomline: anti-blackness is a global phenomenon. If we're going to put a stop to it, ALL BLACK PEOPLE need to stop ignorantly feeding into it. When African people unknowingly adopt white supremacist views about Black Americans, it's easier to weaponize them against the Black community and make them complacent in our mistreatment. Meanwhile, Black Americans who fetishize African people and the African continent turn a blind eye to the negative impacts of colonization and often sink deeper into anti-FBA mindsets. These conversations have the potential to take the loaded gun out of the hands of our true enemy, white supremacists. Sincere gratitude is a form of acknowledgment. We can't correct the situation if we can't acknowledge it.@@Hismana-oi4yx
Here we go, the fba babble.@@Hismana-oi4yx
The no child left behind bill really hurt FBA children … My parents always valued education and the village helped raise us. Africans have benefited from programs that were established for FBA and maybe it would be more equitable if Africans established their own programs and that would lessen tensions. Also Africans should learn our history.
Black American female older millennial here, and I really enjoy the podcasts you all are putting out (I’m late I know 😌) On this particular episode, I truly enjoyed Vida (keep glowing Sis and rocking that beautiful fro), Willy (your empathy and compassionate words are appreciated 😌) and Manny (your comedy and don’t sweat the small stuff attitude is a breath of fresh air, TY 🙂). I am so happy, that you guys are working on, building relationships between Africans (specifically East Africans) and Black Americans. Every conversation, helps to build a bridge to understanding, growth and real dialogue. Keep on keeping on y’all!
The men are giving valid points from a systematic perspective. The black American women are giving every consideration from a personal POV. Which is SO frustrating. Even the reason tension exists btw some black Americans and emigrated Africans is literally a system created by colonists
@jasminekyambadde7961
How they come here , and are enemies against is in our own land.
As a 44 year old African American.. this is such a great conversation. In the 90s era this conversation would’ve never happened. It was a different world then!
Race - Black, white etc
Ethnicity (“tribes”) - Dinka, Nuer etc
Nationality - South Sudanese / American / Canadian etc
I personally don’t think African immigrants should call ourselves African American cause that is an ethnic identity ADOS created for themselves but I guess that’s a complicated matter. We are all Black but we need to respect African Americans’ distinct ethnic/cultural identity.
ADOS seem to mostly reject African as an identifier. FBA even more so. Hence Foundational BLACK Americans.
It differs on a case to case basis.
So You own both African and black American 😂😂😂😂
@@Apman99 huh…? Idk what you’re talking about lol
@@StuartCallendarAs an immigrant I respect whatever ethnic/cultural identifier African Americans/FBAs/ADOS want to claim as their own.
@@tjc8422 usually Black Americans say black American is an Ethnicity and now you are saying Africans who are citizens of America shouldn't called themselves African Americans what are they then?
Honestly I feel like there is under representation on the panel of African Americans. Most of the ones on the panel have grown up around Africans. My experience has been totally different since I was not raised around Africans. My issue has come from SOME older African men calling me lazy and saying my priorities are wrong due to not having children and not being married at 36. Also, my experience with SOME African women, they stick to their own people and do not view us as the same or include us in their spaces. Which even so, I still consider Africans as black but like your panelist said, I see them more as cousins. I have worked with a lot of Africans from different countries and most of them view African Americans as lazy and undereducated. Which is true because WE DO NOT GET THE SAME ADVANTAGES as African immigrants. We are not taught about resources available and we are not given the same information to get into the same circles. African Immigrants are not at fault, but we need you to understand that the younger generation has more of this information available because the older generation making it available so that the younger ones can progress and make change. We can even have the same credentials, and still not get the job just because we are black AMERICANS! They steal our looks, clothes, music, our styles, language, and more and gentrify it to make it acceptable. I understand about Africans have had their own struggles in Africa, but we are talking about the struggles of being Africa American. Our education system is still trying to erase our history and continue to put laws in place to hold us back. Immigrants of all kinds will not completely understand our struggle because the system wants us to fight and not join together and rise up!
Yeah this was interesting to watch because you could tell that the African Americans seemed to wish they were Africans.
Don't u think it's better panels with AA and africans that have been living around each other than africans and AA that have not? I mean who else than people that lived around each other and know about each other? The hate with AA vs africans is because u both have not lived amongst each other. These are very young people talking about their experiences. You older AA and africans have not do it right l. Let the young talk
These two AA/Black women are a very poor representation for this conversation. They both came off with lack of pride and knowledge of their people and history. I was disappointed as an AA in their contributions. Please invite better informed Black Americans of their history for future podcasts. Otherwise, this was a very interesting discussion. Surprisingly, the two men made the best overall points for both sides on this panel.
Exactly
I'm FBA/ADOS and I really enjoy your show.
Of course 😂😂😂
One of the best episodes to date 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
I love this conversation, but I feel like a lot of information is being left out on the Black American side.
There are things like the Equal Opportunity Gap that Black Americans have to experience. So these programs are supposed to fill that gap. Do I blame Africans for taking advantage, no. I blame institutions bc they are finding other ways to use programs that were created for us.
I also think you guys need to talk about the difference btwn race, ethnicity, and nationality. A lot of Black people don’t have a connection to Africa, so they prefer the term Black. I would call yall African first (or your country of origin ie Congolese), then African American, then Black. Just because our experiences are different. I like the phrase we are cousins in our Auntie home bc that’s exactly it. Personally for me I had experiences with Africans were they call us Black people drug dealers, lazy, thugs, and all of this other stuff. But it’s like we strive for yall to be successful here too. We think about different races and stuff when we fighting for people. (ie black people fighting for immigrants, Africans, Jewish people). So yeah we feel some type of way when Africans come rake opportunities and are complicit in things like racism.
At the same time there are other privileges us Black Americans face (ie stronger passport). This is just feedback, but I don’t think you guys (except Willy and the teacher) came with enough research to talk about the systemic issues that face Black Americans. (ie medical racism, being testing on unwillingly, black men who are meeting us black women). But I do appreciate you guys mentioning how since you got exposure to white spaces (ie private school) you guys can network and do those things.
Our families were only able to go to college recently (there are HBCUs but that’s in the majority of the South). So it’s not like our parents don’t encourage us… a lot do. They are concerned about things like affordability and they just don’t know. Also there are parents who work 2-3 jobs just to survive so they cant help their kids with school.
Came from TikTok! I'm a student at UNC and I love this dialogue. I find 43:31 so important when she (sorry im blanking on her name!) talks about "doing college the wrong way" because she didn't have any experience once she graduated. I learned about this in a class I took last semester but this is a super common experience for minorities in higher education. Students from families with college degrees and/or from well-off families have prior knowledge to apply for internships and make connections. They are also financially able to take unpaid internships which are very common for undergraduate students. The experience they have during the summer paves the way for their future careers. Students from low-income households aren't able to have the luxury of unpaid internships, or if they're a first-gen students, no one is telling them to apply -- because how are they supposed to know if they never went to college? She did not "do college the wrong way," she did it the best way she knew how. It's not her fault, it's a system catered toward affluent white Americans.
Came here from TikTok. Appreciate the conversation. Wish it were longer and had more AA perspective because there are so many experiences and its not a one size fits all life. It was refreshing to hear that you all understand that ypur experiences are different and you understand that you have been given privileges that AA do not or it's harder for is to receive the benefits that you get.
Definitely needed more AA perspective. I think they could have said more but didn’t take the opportunity
Me too
I love south Sudanese people. They are beautiful. We don’t interact with a lot of them in black America. They are actually the key to a lot of African history. Immanuel is great energy. Ebony and other girl aren’t too smart. Please get more proud black Americans on your platform. Bless up.
I agree. Ebony and Gianna (I don’t know the spelling) perspectives are very different, which is fine, but I think a lot of what they’re saying isn’t really true for the rest of us.
You got to understand they’re mostly speaking on their experiences.
Black American here. Love this podcast!
I'm telling the Guy in the Glasses is soooo Legit.
By far my favorite episode. Like yall hit on soo many real relatable topics. When it all comes down to it all minorities were done foul but non minorities. Period. Signed Black American woman with African and Native American roots
As an African American, I really appreciate your channel. Thank you.
Y’all are inspiration for pushing the conversation forward amongst the new generation
I am glad I stumbled upon this conversation. It was good to hear African Americans by immigration championing African American Descendants of Slavery.
I will say that there should have been a wider range of Black African Americans on this panel for perspective, because even our experiences will vary.
I loved this whole conversation I think it was honest and beautiful
I was botn in Ghana when it was called Gold Coast. In those days in lived in two places. Cape Coast is my hometown where I go to school and stayed with my brothers and sisters. In those days there were many Europeans, Asians, Arabs and many blacks from other African countries in Ghana. During the long school vacation my mother,brothers, and sisters traveled to where my father worked as a doctor. We are the only blacks. All our neighbors were whites . Thanks to Nkurumah and others who fought for our independence and other African countries We did not have a lot of racism in Ghana. In Ghana those days we do not identify people by race. We called people by Mr.Mrs,and. Miss.Ghana was heaven from 1960 to 1966 until Nkurumah was overthrown by the CIA coup.
Kwame Nkurumah I love his journey ❤ I love Ghana 🇬🇭 (The Gold Coast) through him ❤
Sorry I’m commenting a lot, I was up all night studying and stumbling on this was a perfect decompress. I hope this video fuels more of these topics to be seen more vividly so we can bridge the gaps in our diasporas better and hopefully faster. I dream of the day when we all are able to truly interact with each other in communicative ways that make our lives universally better, without the influence of outside peoples. I love all my black people worldwide
Beautiful convo i love it.. been on channel but I've never listen to yall. I'm Ghanaian and must regardless of where you from and where you find yourself we must embrace each whether African American, or Africans. Thumbs up
African American Women they have on this Show, are kinda Suscept.
Right like they’re not giving a good perspective
@@_lshantel_ Honestly they didn't add much to Conversation
Crazy eyes Ebony is the most suspect. Every time she spoke I cringe.
They always are on these panels
@@rockb922 They appear to not have much Substance atleast on this Subject, I don't watch Ladies of Sosa much this Could be so much more informative and helpful if they would really stepped up.
I love love love love her hair Her natural hair Beautiful Queens and Kings the Nubians much love to all
lol there not Nubians. Only northern Sudanese and dark skinned Egyptians are descendent of Nubians. Why do black Americans think anyone can be a Nubian. Dam culture vultures
The topics are getting better and better. Great job everyone
ME and other FOUNDATIONAL BLACK AMERICANS hate the term "AFRICAN AMERICAN" because it makes seem like we're Immigrants in America and we aren't Immigrants at all.
You speak for yourself and your immediate family. What survey did you do and give to the 40+ million African Americans, that agree with this narrative? The term African American was coined in the 1700s by our ancestors as they gained their freedom. SELF DEFINED. We not dropping or handing it over to immigrants because they make you feel uncomfortable.
@@HonorableSienna that's a bs IMMIGRANT term and we aren't IMMIGRANTS as BLACK AMERICANS/FBA'S and that bs term was created by the sellout JESSE JACKSON goofy.
@@HonorableSienna and back then their were BLACK AMERICANS who didn't like that term neither! so speak for yourself mam.
Facts
Exactly. We never liked it.
Love this conversation ❤
and sometimes if u do get education and degrees the jobs that we want most times will make us "OVER QUALIFIED" for the position we want.
Great show again 🇸🇸🇸🇸🇸🇸🇸🇸🇸🇸🌎🌎
We are South Sudanese no matter anyway we are in the world
@dengmii
Exactly! As a Black American if I move to or is born in Sudan. I have no choice but to be immersed in Sudanese Culture. But it doesn't make me Sudanese. It give me NO RIGHTS to claim, change or speak for or as a Sudanese. I have the obligation to Sudanese Culture. We are genetically connected. Why can't we come together, and respect each other as two ethnic groups who share the same ANCIENT GRANDPARENTS? Black Americans are CENTURIES removed from Africa. Of course we are our own ETHNIC GROUP, history, achievements, culture, customs, and beliefs to same as Sudanese and the 2999 other TRIBES in Africa. The HISTORY of CHATTEL SLAVERY in this country gives us a UNIQUE LINEAGE that we will NEVER allow to be invaded or diluted. Sudanese nor Africans have that HISTORY here. It has nothing to do with us not liking you.
Right. They are not real Americans. Just South Sudanese who have American citizenship.
@@naturalmoments9319
They are CRAFTY and the two girls and one guy are full of it and following the agenda. The other brother seem to have found, understand and embraced the Black Americans that accepted him as family. I've never known our mothers, fathers and grandparents to mistreat or reject any kids. We're not the ones saying stay away from the African kids like their parents saying stay away from the AKATAS. But when the police jack you up, or a racist jam you up, you want help from the AKATAS. I'm now SELECTIVE not COLLECTIVE when it comes to other groups. "ALL SKIN FOLKS AIN'T KINFOLKS. I'm not going to stand silent while our students are pushed out of institutions and opportunities our people blood and bodies paid for. They fought and died for their children to have opportunities and resources. We did the hard work and paid the price! If you want to be accepted, don't come here thinking you're entitled. I don't care if you were born here or immigrated here and got citizenship. As you stated, it makes you just an "AMERICAN, by birth because your parents came in over the border or as a REFUGEE!" It doesn't and will never make you BLACK AMERICAN/AFRICAN AMERICAN!
Loved this conversation!
Well articulated sister
Only watched about 15 mins I feel like this whole discussion could have been different if the difference between race and ethnicity was brought up and established but I could be wrong 🤷🏾♂️
Part two of this convo is dropping tomorrow. Let us know if we established race and ethnicity! 🤎
As a Foundational Black American I agree no African or any of this Diaspora can speak on the Black American experience we aren't the same.
Subbed , great great topics brought up.
My dad was a haitian doctor i know many haitians when they come take their GEd english courses.
My dd said never aim for a c aim for an A. There is also a class thing
My Favorite is the Guy with Glasses.
Nice to know Ebony is Cameroonian; love you more, just for that. Your Cameroonian sister, here
@LoganWillard because she is a Black American who took a DNA test that told her that she is a descendant of someone from current day Cameroon. Remember that we Black Americans are descendants of West and Central Africans brought to America to be enslaved 300 to 400 years ago.
She's not actually from Cameroon. There was no Cameroon when her West African ancestor was brought to America in chains to be enslaved. Whatever DNA test she took told her that she had an ancestor from what is now Cameroon.
As a college student, we feel compelled to identify ourselves as Africans rather than using the term "black." At one point, I engaged in a discussion with many African American females who explicitly referred to themselves as "We the black girls," specifically calling out names and intentionally excluding me from that group. That surprised me and taught me that the term 'black' now has a category.
akursanto7174
The word "BLACK" always has a category. Are they suppose to change their culture and language for you? When Africans go to China do you tell the Chinese the same thing? Why do Africans think you can come here among Black Americans and suddenly you're Black American, entitled to our culture, history, lineage and achievements? You do that NOWHERE else but in the U.S.! You're not Illiterate, so you know it is impossible from someone from another culture to move to another country and suddenly you become another groups ethnic group. This is beginning to sound like an AGENDA!
@@msrubie11 Thanks for your reply, however when African Americans think the term black is only for them it is very foolish to think so. We Africans don’t deny that we are Africans but we black too so it doesn’t make sense to tell someone not to regard themselves as black regardless of category. No African says they African Americans, or black Americans. We are Africans and it stops there, but when it comes to the term black we too can claim the identity because black is a color which we also carry. In fact true black comes from Africa. So basically African Americans or black Americans shouldn’t think we are weird to say we black.
@@akursanto7174
African Americans don't have to think anything about the term "BLACK" because "WE" choose it to identify us. It was our decision not to accept the names given us by the power structure. The minds of my ancestors were never enslaved. It seems yours evidently still is.
"TRUE BLACK comes from Africa?" Please show us where TRUE BLACK comes from in Africa and when. I know you're going to do that because if you can't that makes you a liar. I know that you will REPRESENT YOUR ENTIRE CULTURE AND THE ENTIRE CONTINENT OF AFRICA by your response or non response.
Now show us Africa using BLACK to IDENTIFIER prior to the 1960's! I know you can't do that because Black Americans COINED the term "BLACK" as the IDENTITY for our people in the 1960's. We formed the BLACK POWER MOVEMENT! We formed The BLACK FIST as a sign of BLACK LIBERATION.
We formed the words BLACK IS BEAUTIFUL. James Brown gave us to phrase "BLACK AND PROUD!" It is Black Americans and only Black Americans who used the word BLACK to identify ourselves. .
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Let me remind you that every opportunity you got came off the back of Black Americans. Please don't tell us what we can't STOP. Black American Culture, HISTORY and LINEAGE is something that doesn't belong to ANY group but Black Americans.
Be proud to be African, because we both know many of you are not! I believe in proof. We know you can't show me Africans using the word Black prior to the 1960. But I can certainly show you're lying about using Black Americans designations! If you google your own identities you don't come up in the stats!
@@akursanto7174girl don’t even waste your time explaining that we are BLACK. Maybe Africans are greens or some to some people’s eyes.
“Sudan” literally means land of the blacks. Google it!
Love the conversation! You need a low/middle income black male and female with American born parents view on said subjects.
And stop calling us African we are Black Americans
The conversation was good but the Black American representation was very poor. I don't know were you got those so called Black American women from on this panel. But the do not represent the Black American community.
The 2 Sudanese brothers represented better for Black Americans than the 2 actual Black American Sisters did.
I think being a haitian american born in haiti raised here ther eis a desperation when you are an immigrants quadruple that as a blk immigrants.
Also mny blk immigrants who come here are also educated.
Having an educated father hits different
Dope conversation!!!!
Stop using “hotep” as a negative. Loving yourself all the way from your hair to your clothing is a very strong front against colonialism. Some of us need to analyze how we will go months without wearing our natural hair. That wasn’t happening even just 50 years ago for a lot of us. Now due to our idea of “freedom” given to us from eurocentric ideas we label our warriors as hotep or something. That is a colonized way of thinking.
Great podcast. Instant follow. 🇹🇹
Willy has sense but the AA is kinda conservative. White people say the same things she says. She engaged in meritocracy.
This video is quite different from the usual videos I’ve watched…I am glad to hear these younger Sudanese Americans speaking about their experiences and issues ….Many of the other videos I have watched are primarily about Nigerians and all those videos do is emphasize how great and smart and successful Nigerians are compared to Black Americans….However; many, Black Americans have advanced degrees and stress education…. Most of the people in my Black American family have at least a Bachelor’s degree and some have a masters degree….
great podcast, I am enjoying this as a somali
African American doesn't apply to immigrants nor their descendents. You're Sudanese American. And that's OK.
African American is for those who descend from slavery in the USA. Please don't play with our terms just to fit in. It's disrespectful.
Be Sudanese American. It's OK. It's beautiful.
Preach
Stop calling us African it’s a term to erase our contribution to America
First & foremost, i'd like to say I loved this conversation & appreciated the cultural competence and sympathy that was shown. I wanted to follow up with the statements indicating that African's aren't accepted outside of their own space/culture & I'd like actually present that as being the African American experience. Africans don't get hate from all around the world. We were brought to America to be hated as well with no sense of identity. Atleast someone gets sympathy from white folks because it's not us lol. But overall the conversation headed in the right direction. We're all Black & that's what I love about us so much because we come with so much diversity. I was disappointed with the responses of the AA because there was a lack of understanding what it means to be African American and systemic oppression. But I appreciated everyone's opinion, story, and perception.
There is hate for many Africans in many other countries. Africans in Isreal, China and India are being treated terrible. Some Africans are still enslaved today as well.
What we don't understand too is that African immigrants do get together with ADOS Americans Some are blended nowadays but that othering is still there.
Amongst the young ans it's good
You will feel accepted in your own land by your own people
Are experience are different because aa aren’t our ppl the Atlantic slave trade NEVER happened in South Sudan
2:03 , you are of the black race with American citizenship, but that does not make you a Black American. Black Americans are their own ethnic group.
Ebony reminded me of that Black maid woman in the movie Get Out, she need some camera flashing to get out the trance she's in lol, she looks crazy but she's beautiful though, but girl are you alright?
Oh she is alright. Hust her experience. Not AA have bad experience with africans amd not all africans have bad experience with AA
My view on this topic is, African-American, these are our brothers and sisters who drifted off from Africa to the USA during the slave trade and they ended up forming a community of their own color and for the reason they couldn't trace back their actual roots. Perhaps, they knew their ancestors were typically from Africa, that's where African-American is tagged in.... But all in all, we see them as our brothers & sisters.
MOST FBA parents rather us as FBA kids to go to trade school instead of going to college just to pay all those student loans back.
You don't speak for most FBA parents. You speak only for YOURSELF!
Man as 6th generation American who still has relatives in Africa i can relate to not being accepted by either side.
I love you guys ✊
It's this simple for me.
We're all African people, belonging to different subcultures. It seems like most Black people from other parts of the diaspora be that the Caribbean, South America etc, when they're of African descent, they identify as such. And if you don't, that's fine with me as well. People with similarities in ideology usually find each other. The rest is irrelevant.
We are not Africans we black Americans and we are different people from you
Love from Sudan
I find that the only people who call me African American are uncomfortable with my blackness and so I really don’t like the term African American. African immigrants are African American in my opinion and are also black Americans. I really don’t think there needs to be a separation among black people it’s just not necessary. We have as many similarities in culture as African countries have with each other.
African culture is nothing like ours we dont do blood ritual child labor fgm please get a grip
NO WE DON'T...GO TO AFRICA!
“Education is liberation” was our elders mindset😭 that’s what the Slient Generation believed in & preached in the black community. That mindset died w younger boomers & GenXers unfortunately. Everything degrading in the black community today is the results of alot of what they did.
As an African British person, I find it challenging to connect with this topic. To my knowledge In Britain, there are no descendants of slaves primarily because the British dismantled and sold slaves, with a significant portion ending up in America. However, it's essential to remember that both black Americans and Africans share the same ancestors, particularly those from West Africa. Rather than perpetuating division and discrimination, African Americans and Africans must come together, share experiences, and learn from one another. African Americans may not be aware that Africans in Africa also endured slavery in Africa, as seen in countries like Sudan, where colonial powers such as the British imposed it. Today, the lingering effects of mental slavery persist among Africans globally. It's crucial for Africans, irrespective of their location, or place of birth to come together and thrive collectively. Being black signifies being African, irrespective of birthplace or residency. Just like when an African elephant gives birth to a baby elephant in America, the offspring remains an African elephant regardless of where they are.
PS: Mental slavery would be a good topic to discuss on the podcast!
How can we share the same ancestors if West Africans were selling their enemies into slavery?
@@HonorableSienna their enemies were tribal neighbors. To be honest, you or I, or anyone you live was live to know 100% what happened. As a Blk American, today I am healthy, educated, well traveled, and financially stable. Not bad for a descendent of African slaves.
Black Americans have ancestors that have been in America since the start aka 1776 after they were sold by other West/Central Africans and neither Caribbean or Africans come from those ancestors like Black Americans Freeman do so we don't share the same ancestors.
@@yodad723 Why do you insist that Africans never attempted to intervene and free their enslaved counterparts? Despite contending with slavery and colonialism simultaneously within Africa, what evidence supports the claim that Africans never endeavored to cross the Atlantic Ocean to emancipate their people in America? The sale of individuals was prevalent in many communities, including among Africans who sometimes betrayed their own for various reasons. Even those Africans forcibly transported to America via slave ships often struggled for years to return to Africa, despite the inherent complexities of returning to a place where they were sold, why do you think that is?!
@@yodad723so your ancestry only goes as far as 1776?
Inwill add internships are important and yes faking your resume is a thing.
This reminded me of Uncomfortable Conversations with Emmanuel Acho. There’s no real critique there because Emmanuel clearly has an affinity for proximity to whiteness. And the African American presence here clearly has an affinity for Africaness. This conversation lacked real critique because the Black American presence clearly wishes to cosplay as continental Africans. Very uninformed and agreeable.
The "African American" name needs to be removed to and replaced with something else like when we were called "Freedman/Freedwomen". Freedman/Freedwomen Black Americans should be acknowledged as our ethnic group that can't be hijacked like we've been having to deal with because Freedman/Freedwomen Black American can't do the same thing with Caribbeans or Africans. There's no such thing as "Black racial unity" so we don't need to pander or "unify" to Africans or Caribbeans but we should cooperate with them. Pick better Freedman/Freedwomen Black Americans to represent us.
A channel on UA-cam what Africans are saying good things about black Americans wow this is hard to find but thanks…
Africa is a continent it is NOT a country. West Africa is a region. The word, 'Akata' is associated with one country and one tribe should NOT be associated with all Africans and should NOT be associated with all african tribes
That we all Black is so worn out!being Black doesn't make you the same different culture, language, foods, should I go on.
Hey y'all. My first viewing of the show and I love seeing us come together and talk about this stuff. I just have a question. What's up with the American slang of calling women "bad b**ches" and using the n word? Or shout outs to popular people and stuff. Like, what is "shout out Chadwick Boseman" doing for the conversation. It feels like it's an easy reach, low hanging fruit conversation that honestly feels very basic and pop and not channeling the REAL situations going on. It's like trying to be funny and cool, but comes off as uninformed, unfocused and unwilling to actually get to the why. I'm just a comment so don't take me too seriously, but personally as a pan African id love to see our young people conversations go deeper into bridging the gap of African Americans and Continental Africans in ways that highlight our oneness, without the fluff of "YAAAASSSSS" and cutting each other off to say impulsive non related commentary. I hope this makes sense! Beautiful set, great sound and lighting. I just want the conversation to be just as well thought out.
Man I wish I was there!!
I know, not think we should have these conversations behind close doors, we are all Africans. No matter where you come from. We were torn away from each other, Africans were conditioned by colonization and Apartheid, Africans born in America were conditioned by slavery. Let's learn each other's story, heal together and pull together and close ranks. We are all we have. I was born in New York state,I'm a descendent of Africans that were enslaved. You have to study the history of Africans pre colonization and study the history of African Americans during slavery.
Why should this be behind clothes doors!
ROASTING is apart of BLACK AMERICAN CULTURE so Idk why y'all take it to heart so much🤷🏿♂️🙄⚫🔱🔴✊🏿🇺🇲
@MichaelMoon863
For the same reason they are weak comedians and and rappers and actors. Because they are not us.
I feel this. Roasting is a passive way of showing love in blk American culture. We be toxic AF 🤣
@@Chill_Son
Toxic? Really. We do that to toughen each other up for the world.
@@Hismana-oi4yx exactly!!
I think this is a cheap cop out that black Americans take in order to be toxic to other people (especially the Africans).
I’m convince Emanuel has ears just for decoration
They have some beautiful skin omg
As a male Blk American listening! I loved this conversation. You guys were knowledgeable of our history and constraints. You were considerable of the privileges that Africans have in this country opposed to blk Americans. God bless you all ! & I am all for you exploiting your privileges in America!! This is what your Ancestry cousins died for in America 🇺🇸!
Ancestors cousin ?
@@brotherkareem181 yes, being a migrant African in America; benefiting from what black Americans fought/died for would mean you’re in aunty house. It was a metaphor; in the podcast I referenced “we’re in aunty’s crib”.. agree or disagree i don’t care. Argue with ya momma
@@Chill_Son That last part was corny.
@@brotherkareem181 so is your life day to day
@@Chill_Son That was corny too 😂
Y'all melanty beings.
These immigrants need to check their immigration papers. They HAVE TO PERFORM AND PAY IMMIGRATION FEES. They can get deported if they act like FBAs! People need to read immigration laws! They LOOK LIKE THEY'RE A SUCCESS, BUT THEY HAVE TO TOW THE LINE!
shout out to Amanuel⚫🔱🔴✊🏿🇺🇲
This is wild.
The descends of slaves were identified as " Black American" exclusively but as years pass by the political arena changed a lot: the identification "BLACK American" took the connotation of RACISM. why others are not identified as " White American"? Hence the term " African American gained political weight despite the fact Black American were not displaying 100% African culture. In fact African immigrants are much more " African American" then the originally Black Americans. Remember " Rumble in the Jungle": When Muhamed Ali and George Foreman fought for heavy weight boxing match of the era in " Kinshasa" All Newspapers in Congo (Zaire), the rest of Africa and around the world identified the two prominent world champ boxers as " 2 BLACK AMERICANS fighting in African soil. Technically: The descend of slave should fit "BLACK AMERICANS" and the descend of immigrants " AFRICAN AMERICANS" because the have both cultures" especially those who were born here or come to the US at the below 5.
This was great conversation but I think there should be a different perspective from a black women who went to an HBCU because I’m a first generation HBCU graduate and my family pushed education and I know many people pushed for better education for their children. I feel like as an African woman in corporate America my family taught me to work 120 percent harder just be deemed as qualified. Growing up low income a lot people can’t afford college but is taught to be better than their parents and go to college. Their should be an African American man perspective because an African American men are often left out of conversation and don’t feel heard to say their experience.
I feel like as African American we were taught the value of Africa and how we should visit the motherland.
I think you lying I don't know no Black American family that's told to value a forigen country.
@@brotherkareem181 you may not know that’s okay but I was raised in a pro black household and my church home focuses on black liberation theology so my pastor would often reference ancient Africa and African history and I have encountered many people during my hbcu experience who grew up in a pro black household as well
@@lyasiamonroe3695 Yeah right 😂
@@brotherkareem181 we all are entitled to our beliefs 🤷🏾♀️ but you have a bless day
I came from the tok but a youtube girl
It's very weird, african don't understand this is not their land and we would not do that if we went to your land
The land belongs to tax payers. We pay F…in taxes.
Se africans have our own land. We never said America is our land. Us being Americans doesn't mean our ancestral land is forgotten. And by the way America isn't you and white people land too. It belongs to Native indians
@@africaine4889The Virginia Vital Statistics Bureau classed all nonreservation Indians as ``negro'',
@@africaine4889An Inquiry Into the Distinctive Characteristics of the Aboriginal Race of America
by Samuel George Morton
It cannot be questioned that physical diversities do occur, equally singular and inexplicable, as seen in different shades of color, varying from a fair tint to a complexion almost black; and this too under circumstances in which climate can have little or no influence. So also in reference to stature, the differences are remarkable in entire tribes which, more over, are geographically proximate to each other. These facts, however, are mere exceptions to a general rule, and do not alter the peculiar physiognomy of the Indian, which is as undeviatingly characteristic as that of the Negro; for whether we see him in the athletic Charib or the stunted Chayma, in the dark Californian or the fair Borroa, he is an Indian still.
The speakers are racially black but their are not ethnically black. Also, they are not African-Americans. When referring to themselves, they should claim their tribal identities from their homelands: Hutu-American, Yoruba-American, Igbo-American, etc. African-American is reserved for FBA/ADOS.
“This not our country”…. Yo get shorty(the blk American girl) off the panel 😂 we don’t claim her
Cream shirt was cooking
It’s very systematic blk Americans created HBCUs etc & still get little funding
Im a black African American im 23 years old from Washington DC . We all black africans is my brothers and sisters . I’m African 💯💯💯 I would love to come to your podcast
Emanuel is very all or nothing in his thinking & interrupts way too much. Gotta let that ish go dude of whatever you’re holding on to that won’t allow you to see more outside of an all or nothing way of thinking. He was just negative even when it came to promoting himself. Like bro they tryna hype you up & support you & you’re just like nah I wanna keep it separate 😅
Loved this entire convo though because it’s much needed ❤
Yeah they definitely have then wrong AA women on here… but we love the conversation ❤