If I understand the head diving rule correctly, Turoboyev should not get Hansokumake. You only get Hansokumake if Uke could (theoretically) be additional weight on your neck, which can happen with Uchi-mata or Ura-nage, but which was not the case here.
Surely if he had turned more there would have been more weight on the head. Seems unnecessary detail here though because of how many hansokumakes have been given for far less recently.
@@ollywhelan5377 Sure. Let me clarify: I do think that head diving is dangerous and should be forbidden. And I do think that the current interpretation is stupid. Judo Highlights' video, comparing the Turoboyev head dive with Johannes Frey's Hansokumake in the Bronze fight of Germany brings it to the point. I just wanted to give what I understand of the interpretation that I was taught, which would explain that Turoboyev did not get Hansokumake. Because of the discussion, I looked it up in the IJF rules. I found the corresponding Article 18.2.1 quite vague, badly written, and open for interpretation.
@@bodnuscarlsen I think that's the real issue. Athletes don't know what the expectation is for head diving now because of the range of interpretations from referees and video referees. It's become a case-by-case basis rather than all judoka being able to change their throws to make sure they are within the rules, which is why we still have people doing dangerous things as in this video.
They randomize starting weight category for the first round, and every next round it moves 1 up (so for example if round 1 starts with -70 women, round 2 will start with -90 men, round 3 +70 women etc.)
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Great recap !
France semi final would be great to have a recap on
I just looked up Mayu Honda and she is only 19 years of age. Super impressive performance on the international stage!
They have one men's coach and one woman's coach so they switch the coaches in between the matches.
Love these video thanks so much!
Uzbekistan's coach is Marko Spittka, who won a Bronze medal in Atlanta 1996.
ty for the video!
If I understand the head diving rule correctly, Turoboyev should not get Hansokumake. You only get Hansokumake if Uke could (theoretically) be additional weight on your neck, which can happen with Uchi-mata or Ura-nage, but which was not the case here.
Surely if he had turned more there would have been more weight on the head. Seems unnecessary detail here though because of how many hansokumakes have been given for far less recently.
@@ollywhelan5377 Sure. Let me clarify: I do think that head diving is dangerous and should be forbidden. And I do think that the current interpretation is stupid. Judo Highlights' video, comparing the Turoboyev head dive with Johannes Frey's Hansokumake in the Bronze fight of Germany brings it to the point.
I just wanted to give what I understand of the interpretation that I was taught, which would explain that Turoboyev did not get Hansokumake.
Because of the discussion, I looked it up in the IJF rules. I found the corresponding Article 18.2.1 quite vague, badly written, and open for interpretation.
@@bodnuscarlsen I think that's the real issue. Athletes don't know what the expectation is for head diving now because of the range of interpretations from referees and video referees. It's become a case-by-case basis rather than all judoka being able to change their throws to make sure they are within the rules, which is why we still have people doing dangerous things as in this video.
Honda Mayu is -70kg Junior World Champion from 2023. She was also second in this year's Senbatsu. She's in Tokai University, 2nd year student.
fuckin love you with the hats man, beautiful motive. all your style!!!!!!!!!!
That head dive looked nasty 😢
They randomize starting weight category for the first round, and every next round it moves 1 up (so for example if round 1 starts with -70 women, round 2 will start with -90 men, round 3 +70 women etc.)
Why is the weight class +90 and Not -90