Thanks ,Like you have a SH101 in grey which needs a little service to sort out a few minor issues. After watching this I've ordered the blue one too . love the colour and your explanation of the sequencer is extremely useful. For £250 its a bargain and I can hold on to my sh101 too.!! cheers
They should have simply copied the original, both on the sequencer and on the operation of the portamento. Also they should have added presets or done something to improve it, not just make a copy that is not as good as the original.
Thank you,this helps greatly compared to the only thing I find lacking with behringer...their instruction manuals...lol Seems applicable to my craves sequencer also...thanks again
Hi mate very useful. For the step edit functions, is there any documentation available that shows which numbers are linked to the corresponding parameter. Eg Number 6 = ratchet, but i can’t see an obvious clue. Also, can you record in real time, rather than have to record in step mode? Many thanks!
Hey there , could you please make a tutorial , of how to put the midi into the MS101... you say in 3.07 you put something thru usb ... but in Ableton I don't have the option to choose BEHRINGER
the pattern always starts to play from the last place it stopped.. this is so frustrating :(( It should always start at the beginning of the pattern!!! if you know a fix for that please let me know..
Great! One question. If I program a seq on the MS-101, a second seq on the Crave, and a third seq on the PRO-1. Can I start all seq from one of these 3 synths ? how ?
If I press 'pattern' while turning the tempo dial, it will not change the note values. I have tried exactly what the manual states, but with zero luck. I tried messing with different settings in the synth app, still no note value change. What am I doing wrong?
Any tips for beginners wanting to retro patch things like this. I've been doing synthesis tutorials but I'm still miles off hearing a sound and working out how to recreate it, or indeed having a sound in mind and creating it.
J Brown Sound on sound magazine has some great tutorials, secrets of synthesis or something. Beyond that, you can study the factory presets of the Tal Uno VST or the original factory presets of the Arturia Jupiter VST.
When you saved your pattern; and then went to Pattern 3 and back to 1, it sounds like it didn't save your racheting, slides and accents. Am I wrong? 9:32 vs 10:47
INCREDIBLE. Sounds amazing. I've searched for years for someone recreating this but also including the string part. Any clues on how the string patch was created? I don't have a Deep Mind but I have virtual analogue poly synths like the Ultranova
@@Digiphex Thanks! is it going through the Strymon the same as the MS-101? Sorry for all the questions! I am in awe of the closeness of the recreation here :)
@@BenColemanUK I don't view my strings as accurate. The original pans left and right. I would use the TAL Uno vst and put Valhalla VST reverb on it and then use Ableton's Auto Pan for a more realistic result.
What are the most AFX settings (and/or presets) on the BigSky? I see you're using a Room* setting in this video. Sounds great! Seems like Room>Club is pretty close with the diffusion anywhere past 2 o'clock. (I checked the Echo Space preset, but that preset is originally Shimmer).
Great video. Question for you please. I'm going to buy a new monosynth, and I'm really thinking about buying this synth over others (other, being that are just analog modules, with no keys, only midi). I have other synths.. but I'm been around for the past month. After a year now, how is this synth been.. still holding up well? Any issues? Thank You for your time.. I appreciate it.. there is "a lot" out there to choose from!
It is a quality synth but there are better ones that are more versatile, such as the Bass Station II that will make all the SH-101 type sounds and more and has presets, is duophonic, has aftertouch. If you can make the investment, the AFX Station (really just a Bass Station II) is bound to be a collector's item. Get one while they are still out there if you are going that route.
In the beginning, how are you switching between patterns of the song? Are you able to play a pattern and have another pattern play afterwards? Or did you record each pattern separately for the song?
The MS-1 users manual does not include sufficient details on the functions and use of the keyboard on-board sequencer. I appreciate this sequencer, tutorial but I have found the MS-1 sequencer difficult to master. Please reply with a written step-by-step list of how to use the MS-1 sequencer. Please include every function and how to program it using the buttons on the MS-1, such as: - Recording patterns on MS-1, keyboard at step modes. - (Also how to use the Synth tool app, sequencer functions.) - How to save a pattern in a determined place. (and to the Synth tool.) - How to select a pattern with the MS-1 keys. - Everything else programable with the MS-1 sequencer. Thank you in advance! Tom in Seattle
Self reply - Hope this helps others. Feel free to correct and add more to this step-by-step for the MS-1 sequencer. MS-1 Step-by-step instructions for recording and saving sequences: ------------ Determine where pattern is or will be stored: Choose Bank: SHIFT+BANK+Press 1-8 buttons, or arrows (Location lights show choice) Choose Pattern: SHIFT+PATTERN+Press 1-8 buttons, or arrows (Location lights show choice) Clear pattern: SHIFT+RESET+PATTERN Record a Pattern in KYBD mode: SHIFT+KYBD to select KYBD mode Press REC (lights up)Play notes and rests as desired, up to 32 per pattern. Press REC when done recording. (light off) Play pattern: Press PLAY/STOP button (lights up) sequence plays Prepare to save: Hold SHIFT+PLAY (Green LED will blink slowly when ready to save.) Save pattern: Hold SHIFT+REC buttons. This saves the pattern to the chosen Bank and Pattern memories
@@tomhosler3056 thank you so much I've been reading so many articles and watching videos to find this basic info. It amazes me how Behringer decided to not put any of this on their website or even it's flipping manuals.
How can you switch between different sequences on the fly? Like if you had different chords or key changes amongst the patterns and needed to string them together in time? Great video though, sounds amazing!
It's a powerful sequencer but I hate all the button pushing to get there maybe Beringer will bring out a separate sequencer box some day with traditional layout for us analogue nut's 😁
The original SH-101 was more rare in the blue and better liked by people. MS-101 was on the early months of production, then a lawsuit made Behringer change the name to MS-1.
No that is different notes, not just a transpose. You can't do it with the MS-101 due to the 32 note limitation in the sequencer. It has to be external MIDI coming in.
Great work, but so sad that the ms101 sequencer didnt have enough steps to programm polynominal with the intern sequencer, or is this fixed with a firmware now?
There was a suggestion that instead of 64 patterns with 32 steps each, there would be a mode with 32 patterns of 64 steps each. I can't check if it's been implemented because my MS is with someone else at the moment. I'd like an option of patterns with 128 steps, but I'm not sure there would be enough demand for that.
@@Digiphex I bought a demo. It didn't have the user manual. I can't find one on Behringer's web site and I've tried to contact them. do you have a soft copy of one?
I use to play with SH101 and it sounds so round, I dig.. So I got myself the System 1 with the 101 plugout.. I love it that .. is this a good 101 clone? bubbly, bouncer and acidy ?
thanks for your answer ! i actually have a blue one as well and what i ve noticed is that the so called noise floor (when all mixer knobs are down and filter as well with adsr opened and in envelope mode and key hit ) of mine especially with headphones is a bit high , how about yours ? :)
Joel Swensen not sure if it can do that but I’ve noticed if you manually change sequence pattern while it’s running it does not wait for the end of the pattern, so it changes pattern instantly. This seems less useful to me than at the end of the pattern as it’s very difficult to catch the correct moment to change patterns especially at high temps. I have asked Behringer about this but no reply. Still love my ms1 though.
I was referring to the vintage one. I have watched auctions for about 15 years now on these. The blue one has been double the price or more of the gray. Red is worth more than gray as well but not nearly like blue.
Hey! Does anyone know if there's a way to quantize the triggering of another saved sequence whilst playing a previous one? That is, whilst you're playing one sequence, are you able to then choose another one that will play after the final step of the previous pattern has finished, instead of immediately when you trigger the pattern? The above description is how the TD-3 works and I wonder if there is a mode to do the same thing on the MS-101. This is with the intention of choosing between different patterns during live performance. Thanks!
I speak quite a bit of German and have been there many times. But this video is in English and so English will predominate. Should I pronounce timbre in French? I also speak French and I could do it but it would sound "wrong" to people.
Alot of bricks and mortar retailers are being pressured by Korg and Roland reps to not provide shelf space for the recent Behringer knock offs. Retailers have also increased the price point of Behringer synths so that they're not undercutting Roland products.
I love that you picked that wonderful afx sequence for your presentation!
Kicking off with Aphex like that… oh man you got me!!!
I like watching you teach better than reading the manual.
ah somebody who loves Polynominal C as much as me - phenomenal piece of music and excellent re-creation
Have the MS-1 for a week now and love it! Mine does not have 101 printed on it. I own the black version. Great video. Thanks.
me too :)
Jeez for around 300$ , this is a no brainer. Plus you get all those inputs. Dope
That big sky sounds awesome
Not much out there that can execute the 366 MHz of the Big Sky SHARC processor.
The sequencer on the sh01 boutique seems more intuitive to my workflow
I usually like my synths old school black but this is a nice blue color.
Agreed... I may have to go blue this time.
The Orig Roland SH-101 in Blue is very rare! You find the grey ones from time to time, but not the blue.
worth it just to recreate Polynomial-C
I feel you dog!
@@Digiphex its sounds like the sh1 roland?
@@waynesilverman3048 SH-101.
@@Digiphex awesome but can it be a talkbox too
is there any manual with all the sequencing features? thks :)
Very nice tutorial on the sequencer. It will help me to ratchet better. Thank you for posting.
Thanks ,Like you have a SH101 in grey which needs a little service to sort out a few minor issues. After watching this I've ordered the blue one too . love the colour and your explanation of the sequencer is extremely useful. For £250 its a bargain and I can hold on to my sh101 too.!! cheers
I really hoped that they will add the ability to chain patterns!That will vastly improve not only th ms101 but also the crave ,oddy and poly d!
They should have simply copied the original, both on the sequencer and on the operation of the portamento. Also they should have added presets or done something to improve it, not just make a copy that is not as good as the original.
Wow. This is a useful video !!!
sequencer tutorial starts at 4:40
Crucial instructions... this synth is quirky! Thanks for the info... love to see more!
Thank you,this helps greatly compared to the only thing I find lacking with behringer...their instruction manuals...lol
Seems applicable to my craves sequencer also...thanks again
Polynomial C!
Thanks so much for this wonderful Tutorial and showing me how to program such a great song
Hi mate very useful. For the step edit functions, is there any documentation available that shows which numbers are linked to the corresponding parameter. Eg Number 6 = ratchet, but i can’t see an obvious clue. Also, can you record in real time, rather than have to record in step mode? Many thanks!
I have the original 101, bought this as a backup, really can’t tell the difference sound wise tbh
Can you make thoughts changes with the sequencer running?
Can i use it to play only simple chord with the band?
Very good detail thanks
that Aphex twin cover is soo nice dude 👌
My sequencer banks 1 to 8 light up when pressing keys and recording, but no playback or sound is recorded, any advice ?
My word! Goosebumps from the outset!
Hey there , could you please make a tutorial , of how to put the midi into the MS101... you say in 3.07 you put something thru usb ... but in Ableton I don't have the option to choose BEHRINGER
Very nice review !!!! I really like it !!!
the pattern always starts to play from the last place it stopped.. this is so frustrating :((
It should always start at the beginning of the pattern!!! if you know a fix for that please let me know..
How do you save sequences?
Perfect video! Thank you!
Thank you so much! I can't find full manual online - surprisingly, if you have one may you share it please.
Great! One question. If I program a seq on the MS-101, a second seq on the Crave, and a third seq on the PRO-1. Can I start all seq from one of these 3 synths ? how ?
If I press 'pattern' while turning the tempo dial, it will not change the note values. I have tried exactly what the manual states, but with zero luck. I tried messing with different settings in the synth app, still no note value change. What am I doing wrong?
same here lol buti worked a few days ago lol
@@SuckeroftheYear Did you update through the synth app?
@@drummer4hire12 yes
i choose standart setting again ....but dont work...
@@SuckeroftheYear Same here. It worked until I updated.
Where can I find the manual? Google yields no results nor does the Behringer website. The videos are nice but so slow.
did you find it??
YEEEEEESS Thank you 🙏
beautiful ...
Any tips for beginners wanting to retro patch things like this. I've been doing synthesis tutorials but I'm still miles off hearing a sound and working out how to recreate it, or indeed having a sound in mind and creating it.
J Brown Sound on sound magazine has some great tutorials, secrets of synthesis or something. Beyond that, you can study the factory presets of the Tal Uno VST or the original factory presets of the Arturia Jupiter VST.
@@Digiphex thanks for the reply👍
Tip: buy a synthesizer and create a sound. Done.
Can anyone tell me how to turn off the flashing green light on Location 1? It's been stuck for months.
Thanks mate, this a really helpful tutorial video! 👍👌
When you saved your pattern; and then went to Pattern 3 and back to 1, it sounds like it didn't save your racheting, slides and accents. Am I wrong? 9:32 vs 10:47
It was bad editing by me avoiding more filming, but it did save.
@@Digiphex ah okay; thanks
INCREDIBLE. Sounds amazing. I've searched for years for someone recreating this but also including the string part.
Any clues on how the string patch was created? I don't have a Deep Mind but I have virtual analogue poly synths like the Ultranova
Ben Coleman The string is a typical saw wave string but the key is the reverb which sounds a bit choral.
@@Digiphex Thanks! is it going through the Strymon the same as the MS-101? Sorry for all the questions! I am in awe of the closeness of the recreation here :)
@@BenColemanUK I don't view my strings as accurate. The original pans left and right. I would use the TAL Uno vst and put Valhalla VST reverb on it and then use Ableton's Auto Pan for a more realistic result.
What are the most AFX settings (and/or presets) on the BigSky? I see you're using a Room* setting in this video. Sounds great! Seems like Room>Club is pretty close with the diffusion anywhere past 2 o'clock. (I checked the Echo Space preset, but that preset is originally Shimmer).
Do the patterns disappear when you turn off the power or are they stored
Great video. Question for you please. I'm going to buy a new monosynth, and I'm really thinking about buying this synth over others (other, being that are just analog modules, with no keys, only midi). I have other synths.. but I'm been around for the past month. After a year now, how is this synth been.. still holding up well? Any issues? Thank You for your time.. I appreciate it.. there is "a lot" out there to choose from!
It is a quality synth but there are better ones that are more versatile, such as the Bass Station II that will make all the SH-101 type sounds and more and has presets, is duophonic, has aftertouch. If you can make the investment, the AFX Station (really just a Bass Station II) is bound to be a collector's item. Get one while they are still out there if you are going that route.
nice one very helpful.a simple save button would have saved a lot of time n trouble though hehe the odyssey has the same .
In the beginning, how are you switching between patterns of the song? Are you able to play a pattern and have another pattern play afterwards? Or did you record each pattern separately for the song?
At 3:05 I explain.
What's the easiest way to delete / remove a note from a step ?
The MS-1 users manual does not include sufficient details on the functions and use of the keyboard on-board sequencer. I appreciate this sequencer, tutorial but I have found the MS-1 sequencer difficult to master. Please reply with a written step-by-step list of how to use the MS-1 sequencer. Please include every function and how to program it using the buttons on the MS-1, such as:
- Recording patterns on MS-1, keyboard at step modes.
- (Also how to use the Synth tool app, sequencer functions.)
- How to save a pattern in a determined place. (and to the Synth tool.)
- How to select a pattern with the MS-1 keys.
- Everything else programable with the MS-1 sequencer.
Thank you in advance!
Tom in Seattle
Self reply - Hope this helps others. Feel free to correct and add more to this step-by-step for the MS-1 sequencer.
MS-1 Step-by-step instructions for recording and saving sequences:
------------
Determine where pattern is or will be stored:
Choose Bank: SHIFT+BANK+Press 1-8 buttons, or arrows (Location lights show choice)
Choose Pattern: SHIFT+PATTERN+Press 1-8 buttons, or arrows (Location lights show choice)
Clear pattern: SHIFT+RESET+PATTERN
Record a Pattern in KYBD mode: SHIFT+KYBD to select KYBD mode
Press REC (lights up)Play notes and rests as desired, up to 32 per pattern.
Press REC when done recording. (light off)
Play pattern: Press PLAY/STOP button (lights up) sequence plays
Prepare to save: Hold SHIFT+PLAY (Green LED will blink slowly when ready to save.)
Save pattern: Hold SHIFT+REC buttons. This saves the pattern to the chosen Bank and Pattern memories
@@tomhosler3056 thank you so much I've been reading so many articles and watching videos to find this basic info. It amazes me how Behringer decided to not put any of this on their website or even it's flipping manuals.
How can you switch between different sequences on the fly? Like if you had different chords or key changes amongst the patterns and needed to string them together in time? Great video though, sounds amazing!
Also want to know this!
press pattern and a number ?
It's a powerful sequencer but I hate all the button pushing to get there maybe Beringer will bring out a separate sequencer box some day with traditional layout for us analogue nut's 😁
What’s the difference between the blue, grey and red ms-1 / ms-101
Why is the blue one more expensive?
The original SH-101 was more rare in the blue and better liked by people. MS-101 was on the early months of production, then a lawsuit made Behringer change the name to MS-1.
They all sound the same it’s purely aesthetics
Great tutor thanks mine blue too
aaah this is good tutorial ,, thanks man
tutorial
Thank you!
great stuff - thanks for upload
Ohh yes polynomial c. One of my favs.
Can u tell me what blue box is on top of ms1?
Strymon Blue Sky reverb.
@@Digiphex Big Sky. Great demo btw 😎
I notice there are two versions out there - an MS 1 and MS101. What are the differences?
Just the name change to avoid copyright.
@@Digiphex oh, tq.
Thanks a lot
can you give me the notes used at 0:40 , it's not only transposing right?
No that is different notes, not just a transpose. You can't do it with the MS-101 due to the 32 note limitation in the sequencer. It has to be external MIDI coming in.
Can you give us the right notes for the transpose part? :)
Thank you, a really helpful tutorial.
Great work, but so sad that the ms101 sequencer didnt have enough steps to programm polynominal with the intern sequencer, or is this fixed with a firmware now?
It has a million steps but Behringer didn't want to make it like the original. It could easily be fixed in the firmware but they probably won't.
Digiphex Electronics ok thanks, so i better buy the sh01a or thepluhout for my system 1m. Thank you for helping me the right choice
There was a suggestion that instead of 64 patterns with 32 steps each, there would be a mode with 32 patterns of 64 steps each. I can't check if it's been implemented because my MS is with someone else at the moment.
I'd like an option of patterns with 128 steps, but I'm not sure there would be enough demand for that.
thx, lot better than the eh.. "manual" ^^
yea the manual is a damn joke
may i please ask which firmware are you running? thx, love the details with seq
do you still own this one?
Yes, I think the blue one is hard to find now, especially the very early ones that said "MS-101". Guess I will hold onto it.
What is the difference btw MS-1 and MS-101?
Nothing. Behringer faced a law suit early on and changed the name.
@@Digiphex I bought a demo. It didn't have the user manual. I can't find one on Behringer's web site and I've tried to contact them. do you have a soft copy of one?
BTW have you played with the EXT AUDIO?
use two hands as your hand covers up the button you talking about the sequencer thanks
thank u so much !
Hard as hell..... 👍👍👍👍👍
can you share that dm12 patch?
I use to play with SH101 and it sounds so round, I dig.. So I got myself the System 1 with the 101 plugout.. I love it that .. is this a good 101 clone? bubbly, bouncer and acidy ?
No. Modern Roland doesn't understand the SH-101. Strange I know but modern Roland is not the same company or people.
Please make a tutorial on how to make the ms-1 sound like a tb-303..
The Behringer TD-3 can sound like a TB-303 . . .
I’m aware of the aTD-303.. I’m sure the sound can be captured using the MS-1.. I’ll make a tutorial..
@@mikelogan2909 tubbutec on a 101 will do it extra filter glide ect ;)
Is there ANY difference between Behringer MS-101 and Behringer MS-1?!
No.
@@Digiphex So, they actually ARE the SAME product, with TWO different names!
Winston Smith I understand they got their wrists slapped for keeping the name so similar to the original
once you do a pattern can u make it shorter i test and it can be made longer but how i can delete a step ?
Nikolay Sabchev Yes in the video right before I test out the edited pattern, I change it to 8 steps and you can make any step the last step.
thanks for your answer ! i actually have a blue one as well and what i ve noticed is that the so called noise floor (when all mixer knobs are down and filter as well with adsr opened and in envelope mode and key hit ) of mine especially with headphones is a bit high , how about yours ? :)
Am I going to be able to change the banks via midi/usb while it's playing so I can latch them together into a song?
Joel Swensen not sure if it can do that but I’ve noticed if you manually change sequence pattern while it’s running it does not wait for the end of the pattern, so it changes pattern instantly. This seems less useful to me than at the end of the pattern as it’s very difficult to catch the correct moment to change patterns especially at high temps. I have asked Behringer about this but no reply. Still love my ms1 though.
thank you.
What colour is that blue or black ?
He said blue.
Very cool
woow
Good vid but u should have really brought in the polynomial c break.lol Was dying to hear it so bad I stopped the video to out it on. Ace track
I just got the red one, and all three colors were the same price.
I was referring to the vintage one. I have watched auctions for about 15 years now on these. The blue one has been double the price or more of the gray. Red is worth more than gray as well but not nearly like blue.
the vintage ms-101??? Or you mean the SH-101? @@Digiphex
This will help me with my Bodyssey, thanks for the video👍
Shift shift shift. Peace Christo 👽🎶🐕🐕☮️
When will there be dedicated sliders and knobs for cc and midi channels without diving? Peace Christo 💀🐕🎶👽🛸
Hey! Does anyone know if there's a way to quantize the triggering of another saved sequence whilst playing a previous one? That is, whilst you're playing one sequence, are you able to then choose another one that will play after the final step of the previous pattern has finished, instead of immediately when you trigger the pattern? The above description is how the TD-3 works and I wonder if there is a mode to do the same thing on the MS-101. This is with the intention of choosing between different patterns during live performance. Thanks!
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Thanks now i no how to delete 👍🏻
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How to pronounce "Behringer" (by Uli Behringer):
ua-cam.com/video/Zq8SPxJgHVs/v-deo.html
I speak quite a bit of German and have been there many times. But this video is in English and so English will predominate. Should I pronounce timbre in French? I also speak French and I could do it but it would sound "wrong" to people.
Please help I can’t get it to make any sound
Alot of bricks and mortar retailers are being pressured by Korg and Roland reps to not provide shelf space for the recent Behringer knock offs. Retailers have also increased the price point of Behringer synths so that they're not undercutting Roland products.
What is your source for this data?
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