Thanks for watching! Don't forget to check out the #ProjectDictator playlist: ua-cam.com/play/PLTZaOylOgJT_SJK0TDVk9rc1tDuJ4Pj8N.html&jct=EcnFldDEvsTmHs3r3jC3nfOqVjERfg Click "read more" for corrections and bibliography. Please consider supporting the channel by buying merch: teespring.com/stores/the-cynical-historian Or by donating to my Patreon: www.patreon.com/CynicalHistorian *[reserved for errata]* *Bibliography* Ana Maria Alonso, _Thread of Blood: Colonialism, Revolution, and Gender on Mexico’s Northern Frontier_ (Tucson: University of Arizona Press, 1995). amzn.to/3r15heD Steven B. Bunker, _Creating Mexican Consumer Culture in the Age of Porfirio Diaz_ (Albuquerque: University of New Mexico Press, 2012). amzn.to/3rTN81z Erika Pani, “Juarez vs. Maximiliano: Mexico’s Experiment with Monarchy,” in _American Civil Wars: The United States, Latin America, Europe, and the Crisis of the 1860s,_ edited by Don H. Doyle (Chapel Hill: University of North Carolina Press, 2017), 167-185. amzn.to/3FYFvM7 Fausta Gantús and José María Luis Mora, “¿Héroe o Villano? Porfirio Díaz, Claroscuros, Una Mirada Desde La Caricatura Política,” _Historia Mexicana_ 66, no. 1 (July-September 2016): 209-56. www.scielo.org.mx/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S2448-65312016000100209&lng=en&tlng=en Charles A. Hale, _The Transformation of Liberalism in Late Nineteenth-Century Mexico_ (Princeton, N.Jer.: Princeton University Press, 1989). amzn.to/3fUAw4D Stephen B. Neufeld, _The Blood Contingent: The Military and the Making of Modern Mexico, 1876-1911_ (Albuquerque: University of New Mexico Press, 2017). amzn.to/33IFpLH Miguel Tinker Salas, _In the Shadow of the Eagles: Sonora and the Transformation of the Border During the Porfiriato_ (Berkeley: University of California Press, 1997). amzn.to/3fUvaGz Samuel Truett, _Fugitive Landscapes: The Forgotten History of the US-Mexico Borderlands_ (New Haven, Conn.: Yale University Press, 2006). amzn.to/3KHdg8g Paul J. Vanderwood, _The Power of God against the Guns of Government: Religious Upheaval in Mexico at the Turn of the Nineteenth Century_ (Stanford, Cal.: Stanford University Press, 1998). amzn.to/37h8hfc
The positivism motto "Order and Progress" is the motto in the Brazilian Flag. The whole saying is: Love as principle. Order as base and Progress as goal.
Mexican revolution plays an important role in today's Mexican society, specially regarding politics. For instance, basically all politicians claim they're "progressive" and/or left/center-left, even when most of them are clearly right-wing. That's because due to Mexico's relatively recent history, anyone claiming they're actually conservatives will not get a good popular opinion. Btw, you did an excellent job explaining El Porfiriato
Something your comment makes it seem like you don't know is the definition of 'classic liberal' / 'classical liberal' or that government is left of fascism/totalitarianism by virtue of being a republic or democracy.
@@dsxa918 i know what classic liberalism is. And about the second part of your comment, honestly I don't know what you mean. In this comment (which btw is over one year old), I use "right wing" as a synonym of conservatism, that is, not wanting to change the status quo, while I use "left wing" as the opposite, or wanting a change, both terms keeping their meaning regardless of what the status quo is in a particular historical moment. I know that for starters, those two terms are problematic and there's several ways of interpreting them, that's why in part I use them as general terms which are then applied onto the current Mexican socioeconomic and political landscape, while at the same time I'm aware that a single UA-cam comment can hardly explain the complexity of reality and the categories in which we separate it artificially. Hope this explanation helps to clarify my comment, otherwise I truly don't know what you mean
@@dsxa918 No idea what you mean dude but in this sense he definitely makes sense. Mexican politicians aren't very fond of outright calling themselves conservatives because the Revolution has always had a Socialistic bent to it, in fact our current Constitution was the very first social constitution and was the inspiration for the Weimar, Soviet and East German Constitutions, with provisions for the secularizations of public education, stripping the Church of its political power, land reform and redistribution, the inclusion of the writ and Constitutional Trial of Amparo, and the recognition as well as guarantee of all people (citizens and noncitizens alike) their fundamental Rights as human beings. And the only opposition to it was a hardline Catholic conservative party known as the PAN. As well as that even the PRI, once it began to shift hard to the right and to neoliberal economics during the 80s would still cloak itself in Socialist rhetoric. Just listen to any speech by Luis Echeverria or Carlos Salinas de Gortari, it's hilarious in a richly ironic way.
I think his battles with the french gave him some genuine respect and admiration for them, when Diaz reached power he brought a whole lot of french advisors, specially architects, the later put french architecture on vougue for the rest of the nineteenth century
I would like you to make a series where you talk about the conflict between conservatism and liberalism among the Latin American republics of the 19th century. Much of these conflicts were key in forging the political and national identities of Latin American countries and, to a large extent, their consequences resonate to this day.
In Oaxaca city you can visit the house where Porfirio Diaz was born. As well as see Benito Juárez's depiction everywhere since it's his home state. And I think the Magón brothers were from Oaxaca as well. Very different people and ideologies originated there.
Just look at Vasconcelos, man started his career as a liberal, shifted to socialism during his time as Mexico's first Secretary of Public Education and it shows in his early initiatives, like the first free textbook program, the institution of the Socialist Education Initiative, etc., and then his gradual shift to Fascism, like his attempts to force Indigenous peoples like the Zapotecs and Yaquis to assimilate to Mexican identity through the Guelaguetza Festival and the Annual Indigenous Congress, and his time as editor of the weekly Timón magazine. He would die a diehard Catholic who denounced the Constitution and Juarez for opposing the Church, a supporter of the Yunque and the Synarchist League, opponent of the PRI.
Hello, I am a mexican from Baja California, where I study the Porfiriato as we call it here, I found your video quite interesting and comprehensive, keep up with the great work Cypher!
Also I would like to add that Porfirio Diaz is a highly split person here as some people see him as a great reformer and others as an evil tyrant that ruined the country (The state educates us in the latter in school textbooks), but my opinion is that he advanced the economy to maybe not on par with Europe and America but still making progress at the expense of democracy, freedom and land. In any case I stand with Madero and the Decena Tragica (Murder of President Madero) disappoints me as I regard democracy and liberty as necessary and the following dictator Victoriano Huerta just bought back the oppression.
There's always hope in the Zapatistas, though we have our own issues up here in Aztlan hopefully we can prosper beside our former homeland in the future
@@sabotabby3372 Eww please no. The Zapatistas are garbage. Marcos/Galeana is a fraud keeping the Mayas and Lacandones poor and trapped in communes they cannot escape for his own personal kingdom. Also using terms like "Aztlan" is one of the many reasons why we Mexicans never take chicanos seriously.
What do you think the most important problem is? People of Mexican origin are doing pretty well up here in the States. Lots of small businesses, money being made, cultural influence, etc. Why are things so much more difficult in Mexico?
Thank you for this video. I am from Mexican descent and my father's older brother fought in the revolution down south with Zapata. When I was a kid in Junior high I remember seeing a portraits that were Diaz in our history book with maybe a couple of paragraphs beneath it. I had no idea what a complex individual this man was. Thank you again. This is very informative.
I actually got to visit Mexico City last week and visited Chapultepec Castle which contained a museum of Mexico’s history. It included a section on the Porfiriato.
Hey Cypher, mexican and fellow historian here. Big fan of your work. I just wanted to tell you this is a great summary of the Porfiriato, I even learned some new things myself along the way. Keep up the good work!
I really appreciate this explanation! I lived in Mexico in 2010, the bicentenario, and there was a big interactive museum set up in Guanajuato, near where I lived, to commemorate Mexican history. My friends and I went a few times, and honestly, it was one of the coolest museums I’ve ever been to. It was a fully immersive sensory experience in a lot of ways, but they only left it up for about a year. Unfortunately, my Spanish was lacking at that point, so I got the experience, but not the details. This video helped me fill in the gaps.
@@CynicalHistorian I was a part of an apprenticeship program and I lived with other Americans who had been there longer. In the early days, I relied on them a lot, but immersion and a Spanish teacher who constantly berates you work fast when it comes to learning everyday stuff. Excellent experience overall. I’d live in central Mexico again in a heartbeat. Sadly, I’ve been out of practice with my Spanish for awhile now…
Let me save some time by telling you guys, no one except for Porfirio Diaz himself makes it out alive! It's several decades of violence, backstabbing and treachery. One good thing that came out of it was the noble ideals of the Plan de Ayala and the man, the myth, the legend Emiliano Zapata. "Zapata Vive La Lucha Sigue" (Zapata Lives The Struggle Continues)
No lie, I once had a middle school teacher say that cinco de mayo was Mexican Independence Day and celebrated when they kicked Napoleon out (not Napoleon III mind you, NAPOLEON NAPOLEON)
I can understand studying one country and then randomly bumping into another one that’s even more complicated. I host a podcast about Syria. Studying the county inadvertently lead me to learning about Lebanon and its history, and holy hell is that country complicated.
I can't believe 5 Second Films made a cameo in this one. I used to watch their videos every day in their prime. Now it seems like nobody remembers them!
Glad you could make a new “regular” format video, with your dissertation I can only imagine how busy you are! Latin American history is so interesting. Congratulations on the Discovery Channel.
Porfirio Diaz and the Porfiriato are interesting topics in Mexican history (that I know of). Imagine how nearly 40 years of rule saw massive changes in everything in Mexico while many things remain (painfully) the same...
A summary of the history of Mexico. A massive cluster Fck caused by internal issues, Europeans and Americans. With the occasional glimmer of hope and prosperity.
I rediscovered your channel 2 days ago, and just saw this video while browsing in UA-cam. I don't really like gringo historical channel specially when talking about Mexico because of how biased they are but you are not like that so I like your channel. Anyways, thanks for talking about my country, maybe we could have a US-Mexican War video in the future?.
After France was finally repelled in 1867, Díaz worked his way higher in the military ranks and became active in politics by campaigning against the popular president Benito Juárez. Juárez was campaigning for yet another term in office, and Díaz launched an armed rebellion against him in 1871. Díaz lost and was retired from service. However, Juárez died soon after and Díaz reemerged to challenge the former president's successor.
Another thing is how he continued the policy of revoking indigenous land rights that started when Mexico became a Republic. The empire of Mexico actually continued to recognize indigenous political entities and even made an alliance with the Comanche nation. The emperor even noted that the United States was the biggest threat to Mexico
There's Mike Duncan's Revolutions Podcast, which already covered the Mexican revolution. The podcast's bibliography together with the video's bibliography should provide a wide variety of options.
Truett is on my dissertation committee, so I'm biased toward his book. I also really like _Thread of Blood,_ since it covers the history of violence in Chihuahua/Sonora in an interesting way
I remember how when I took a trip to Mexico City, I went to the Frida House that is now a museum. Her father was a notable German photographer who was hired to take pictures for the government. I seen some photographs that were taken by him, on display at the house.
In the end, I really believe Diaz was his worst enemy when it comes to the matter of his legacy, by being so addamant to remain in power until his last breath he putted the whole nation againt him, including many elites of the Porfiriato who would eventually inherit the reigns of power. I like to believe that if he wasn´t so foolish the Revolution may not had happen and he would be honored today as the man who pulled Mexico into modernity.
"Catarino Garza created the Garza Revolution on the Texas-Mexico Border" *checks location of revolution and the location of my paternal family history* Me: Well this is awkward....
By the way, the best biography of Catarino Garza was written by Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador: "Catarino Erasmo Garza Rodríguez: ¿Revolucionario o bandido?".
I took 19 Century Europe a few years ago at college and Porfirio Diaz came up near the end and one guy in my class from Mexico straight up defended him on the basis that he "brought stability to the country" 🤦♂️. Also coincidentally there's a Porfirio Diaz Street near the campus
Conservatives like him, and generally conservatism had been gaining popularity in Mexico. I'm a sense, the Porfiriato was incredibly stable, especially considering the half century before and after. It all depends on perspective
@@CynicalHistorian yeah Iv seen that as well. I remember talking to that person after class to get his perspective and he thought that Mexico needed a strong authoritarian government similar to the one under Diaz because it was the only kind that could bring stability fighting the cartels. As said in this video though his government was corrupt and only some people prospered. That increased wealth inequality and corruption led to the Mexican Revolution. Also sidenote: before class one day that same guy showed me and another classmate a picture of himself wearing a Wehrmacht uniform he ordered online 🤦♂️😅. So it made sense to me why he previously favored Diaz
@@Spongebrain97 ... wow, that's extreme!. I've lived in Mexico for 20+ years, have published on history (not as an acadermic) and have run into Porfirio groupies before... though usually their support comes from the dictator having pulled Mexico into the "modern world", and/or his adherence to "liberal" (i.e., "capitalist") philosophy. And, you still find a few positivists around. Mostly, though, it's just people who don't like the recent socialist/social democratic government.
@@CynicalHistorian you're spot on, generally Diaz helped the country bring I stability and economic growth thanks to the Industrial Revolution, but he did a lot of very not-good things like the Yaqui exterminations and the massacres at Cananea/Río Blanco. Most of his recent popularity is more like historical nostalgia for a time of stability because of the ongoing drug wars, and massively publicized incidents like the Lydia Cacho case, the 2006 Oaxaca Uprising, militarization, etc. It also helps explain why the old ruling party (PRI) won back the Presidency in 2012 and still holds on to something like 9 State governorships, people want to go back to the "good old days".
I'm planning on taking a special topics history course on gender and sexuality in Latin America this fall. Are there any books related to the intersection between the topics of historical political violence and social unrest in the region of the Southwest US and Mexico and gender and sexuality that you would recommend for further reading?
Gloria Anzaldúa kind of touches on that on her work (specially in Borderlands). She focuses mostly on Texas. You might find her kinda more 'literary' and contemporary than historical, but if you don't mind that, she's a good read.
I love the mexican revolution. I must confess I've fallen for the romanticism: Pancho Villa, Modero, Zapata and his land reform or death, the Soldaderas
Cypher's youtube channel: "Poca política y mucha cínica!" (I have no idea if the Spanish is correct or not I just thought this was a clever joke to make)
This video was good but if I’d had to critique anything then it would be not really explaining how Diaz handled strongmen or politicians who might have presented a threat to his regime as dictators before like Santa Anna lasted a few months at a time due to naive political skills. Also that coalmine strike later at Cananea was brushed off except for the American rangers part but could’ve mentioned why the Mexican striked due to huge wage difference and linking that back to how although the Mexican economy might’ve “boomed”, that wealth was not given to peasants who made up most of the populations. The part about Madero and the election of 1910 was brushed off with no explaining of who Madero was or how he represented new rich liberals who had grown fed up with Diaz for not stepping down. Idk, I like the video but I feel like it explained too many things in detail while not focusing on key moments of the rise and falls of the Diaz regime while linking that to why the revolution started(which debatably my did not change Mexican politics as the video said but more like in the 20’s after the military phase ended)
One thing that differentiates the Mexican Presidency from the American one is that the idea and concept of reelection is banned, once you're elected you serve for 6 years and you can never run for the position again, considering that the first independent Mexican leader was an Emperor and many dictators (Santa Anna, Juarez, Lerdo de Tejada) started out by first challenging that concept. Fun fact, the old ruling party (Institutional Revolutionary Party) was partly created as a way to circumvent the restriction, because the President had defacto control over who would become the next President and could ensure that their ideology/agenda would continue to be enacted even when they themselves left office - it explains why after President Lazaro Cardenas left office the member party of the Socialist Internationale would eventually become the biggest proponent of market liberalization and privatization.
@@detleffleischer9418 por eso existe morena esperemos que le pasará en el futuro a los siguientes candidatos más a Ebrar lo siento como de derecha así que sería como un pan pero con más apoyo y a Claudia como de izquierda tal ves centro izquierda así que puede que se divida el partido
@@CynicalHistorian Could you please elaborate on why Santa Anna was a bad precedent? I know very little about Mexican history, so I would be interested in learning more.
@@dinotsar6396 Santa Anna was petty and unapologetically corrupt. His poor diplomacy and mediocre military leadership is also the reason Mexico lost a lot of its Northern territories to the United States too. His time as leader was marked by 2 large foreign invasions and much internal instability.
@@CynicalHistorian ... Will Fowler wrote a generally sympathetic biography of Santa Ana, his argument (if I'm not reading something into it) that SA was, in many ways, a modern populist, less ideological than pragmatic. I give credit to Santa Ana for at least writing his own self-serving autobiography without a ghost writer 🙂 Fowler, "Santa Anna of Mexico" (Bison Books, 2009) Santa Anna, "The Eagle" (Ana Fears Crawford, trans and ed), Austin: State House Press, 1967 (and I believe there are a few reprints out there, maybe a PDF).
Matthew 7:1-3 KJV “[1] Judge not, that ye be not judged. [2] For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. [3] And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?” With American history being so “complicated” Matthew 7:1-3 is the perfect passage for judgment on other nations history. Just don’t forget John 7:24 were Jesus commands righteous judgment.
Thanks for watching! Don't forget to check out the #ProjectDictator playlist: ua-cam.com/play/PLTZaOylOgJT_SJK0TDVk9rc1tDuJ4Pj8N.html&jct=EcnFldDEvsTmHs3r3jC3nfOqVjERfg
Click "read more" for corrections and bibliography. Please consider supporting the channel by buying merch: teespring.com/stores/the-cynical-historian
Or by donating to my Patreon: www.patreon.com/CynicalHistorian
*[reserved for errata]*
*Bibliography*
Ana Maria Alonso, _Thread of Blood: Colonialism, Revolution, and Gender on Mexico’s Northern Frontier_ (Tucson: University of Arizona Press, 1995). amzn.to/3r15heD
Steven B. Bunker, _Creating Mexican Consumer Culture in the Age of Porfirio Diaz_ (Albuquerque: University of New Mexico Press, 2012). amzn.to/3rTN81z
Erika Pani, “Juarez vs. Maximiliano: Mexico’s Experiment with Monarchy,” in _American Civil Wars: The United States, Latin America, Europe, and the Crisis of the 1860s,_ edited by Don H. Doyle (Chapel Hill: University of North Carolina Press, 2017), 167-185. amzn.to/3FYFvM7
Fausta Gantús and José María Luis Mora, “¿Héroe o Villano? Porfirio Díaz, Claroscuros, Una Mirada Desde La Caricatura Política,” _Historia Mexicana_ 66, no. 1 (July-September 2016): 209-56. www.scielo.org.mx/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S2448-65312016000100209&lng=en&tlng=en
Charles A. Hale, _The Transformation of Liberalism in Late Nineteenth-Century Mexico_ (Princeton, N.Jer.: Princeton University Press, 1989). amzn.to/3fUAw4D
Stephen B. Neufeld, _The Blood Contingent: The Military and the Making of Modern Mexico, 1876-1911_ (Albuquerque: University of New Mexico Press, 2017). amzn.to/33IFpLH
Miguel Tinker Salas, _In the Shadow of the Eagles: Sonora and the Transformation of the Border During the Porfiriato_ (Berkeley: University of California Press, 1997). amzn.to/3fUvaGz
Samuel Truett, _Fugitive Landscapes: The Forgotten History of the US-Mexico Borderlands_ (New Haven, Conn.: Yale University Press, 2006). amzn.to/3KHdg8g
Paul J. Vanderwood, _The Power of God against the Guns of Government: Religious Upheaval in Mexico at the Turn of the Nineteenth Century_ (Stanford, Cal.: Stanford University Press, 1998). amzn.to/37h8hfc
Poor Mexico, so far from God
and so close to the United States”
― Porfirio Díaz
Fun fact: That phrase is atributed to general Díaz, but there's actually no evidence that backs that he came up with it.
Actually the Phrase is from a Monterrey Politician named Nemensio García Naranjo, a Porfirista who after his fall joined the Huertista Government
This is one of my all-time favorite quotes.
God gave Mexico everything. Unfortunately, he also gave them Mexicans.
Omg I did not know this was a quote of his. I remember my high school history teacher saying this once. It still rings true today.
The positivism motto "Order and Progress" is the motto in the Brazilian Flag. The whole saying is: Love as principle. Order as base and Progress as goal.
Long live Brazilian empire
@@glocksmith226 but the imperial Brazil also live by this philosophy, the order of the empire is essencial for the progress of people they believed
Mexican revolution plays an important role in today's Mexican society, specially regarding politics. For instance, basically all politicians claim they're "progressive" and/or left/center-left, even when most of them are clearly right-wing. That's because due to Mexico's relatively recent history, anyone claiming they're actually conservatives will not get a good popular opinion.
Btw, you did an excellent job explaining El Porfiriato
el pri es la perra del pan
Something your comment makes it seem like you don't know is the definition of 'classic liberal' / 'classical liberal' or that government is left of fascism/totalitarianism by virtue of being a republic or democracy.
@@dsxa918 i know what classic liberalism is. And about the second part of your comment, honestly I don't know what you mean.
In this comment (which btw is over one year old), I use "right wing" as a synonym of conservatism, that is, not wanting to change the status quo, while I use "left wing" as the opposite, or wanting a change, both terms keeping their meaning regardless of what the status quo is in a particular historical moment. I know that for starters, those two terms are problematic and there's several ways of interpreting them, that's why in part I use them as general terms which are then applied onto the current Mexican socioeconomic and political landscape, while at the same time I'm aware that a single UA-cam comment can hardly explain the complexity of reality and the categories in which we separate it artificially. Hope this explanation helps to clarify my comment, otherwise I truly don't know what you mean
@@dsxa918 No idea what you mean dude but in this sense he definitely makes sense. Mexican politicians aren't very fond of outright calling themselves conservatives because the Revolution has always had a Socialistic bent to it, in fact our current Constitution was the very first social constitution and was the inspiration for the Weimar, Soviet and East German Constitutions, with provisions for the secularizations of public education, stripping the Church of its political power, land reform and redistribution, the inclusion of the writ and Constitutional Trial of Amparo, and the recognition as well as guarantee of all people (citizens and noncitizens alike) their fundamental Rights as human beings.
And the only opposition to it was a hardline Catholic conservative party known as the PAN. As well as that even the PRI, once it began to shift hard to the right and to neoliberal economics during the 80s would still cloak itself in Socialist rhetoric. Just listen to any speech by Luis Echeverria or Carlos Salinas de Gortari, it's hilarious in a richly ironic way.
@@detleffleischer9418diaz himself was a liberal not a conservative
Did anyone else note the irony in Diaz starting as a military leader ejecting French troops from Mexico and ultimately dying in the French capital?
I think his battles with the french gave him some genuine respect and admiration for them, when Diaz reached power he brought a whole lot of french advisors, specially architects, the later put french architecture on vougue for the rest of the nineteenth century
I would like you to make a series where you talk about the conflict between conservatism and liberalism among the Latin American republics of the 19th century. Much of these conflicts were key in forging the political and national identities of Latin American countries and, to a large extent, their consequences resonate to this day.
In Oaxaca city you can visit the house where Porfirio Diaz was born. As well as see Benito Juárez's depiction everywhere since it's his home state. And I think the Magón brothers were from Oaxaca as well. Very different people and ideologies originated there.
Just look at Vasconcelos, man started his career as a liberal, shifted to socialism during his time as Mexico's first Secretary of Public Education and it shows in his early initiatives, like the first free textbook program, the institution of the Socialist Education Initiative, etc., and then his gradual shift to Fascism, like his attempts to force Indigenous peoples like the Zapotecs and Yaquis to assimilate to Mexican identity through the Guelaguetza Festival and the Annual Indigenous Congress, and his time as editor of the weekly Timón magazine. He would die a diehard Catholic who denounced the Constitution and Juarez for opposing the Church, a supporter of the Yunque and the Synarchist League, opponent of the PRI.
Hello, I am a mexican from Baja California, where I study the Porfiriato as we call it here, I found your video quite interesting and comprehensive, keep up with the great work Cypher!
Also I would like to add that Porfirio Diaz is a highly split person here as some people see him as a great reformer and others as an evil tyrant that ruined the country (The state educates us in the latter in school textbooks), but my opinion is that he advanced the economy to maybe not on par with Europe and America but still making progress at the expense of democracy, freedom and land.
In any case I stand with Madero and the Decena Tragica (Murder of President Madero) disappoints me as I regard democracy and liberty as necessary and the following dictator Victoriano Huerta just bought back the oppression.
To understand southwest USA history, you also have to understand some of Mexico history.
Don't get me started on Aztlan
And the other way round too
One of my favorite youtubers talking about the history of my country, this is a very welcomed surprise.
Oh boy I love our history as a Mexican but hate how we can’t completely come together with such a rich and beautiful country. One day maybe.
There's always hope in the Zapatistas, though we have our own issues up here in Aztlan hopefully we can prosper beside our former homeland in the future
@@sabotabby3372 Eww please no. The Zapatistas are garbage. Marcos/Galeana is a fraud keeping the Mayas and Lacandones poor and trapped in communes they cannot escape for his own personal kingdom. Also using terms like "Aztlan" is one of the many reasons why we Mexicans never take chicanos seriously.
@@sabotabby3372 y este paisano que drogas se hecho jajaja
What do you think the most important problem is? People of Mexican origin are doing pretty well up here in the States. Lots of small businesses, money being made, cultural influence, etc. Why are things so much more difficult in Mexico?
And that they will never come
Thank you for this video. I am from Mexican descent and my father's older brother fought in the revolution down south with Zapata. When I was a kid in Junior high I remember seeing a portraits that were Diaz in our history book with maybe a couple of paragraphs beneath it. I had no idea what a complex individual this man was. Thank you again. This is very informative.
This is why I love your channel Cypher, the nuance of history, nothing is ever as simple as it appears.
I actually got to visit Mexico City last week and visited Chapultepec Castle which contained a museum of Mexico’s history. It included a section on the Porfiriato.
Hey Cypher, mexican and fellow historian here. Big fan of your work. I just wanted to tell you this is a great summary of the Porfiriato, I even learned some new things myself along the way. Keep up the good work!
I really appreciate this explanation! I lived in Mexico in 2010, the bicentenario, and there was a big interactive museum set up in Guanajuato, near where I lived, to commemorate Mexican history. My friends and I went a few times, and honestly, it was one of the coolest museums I’ve ever been to. It was a fully immersive sensory experience in a lot of ways, but they only left it up for about a year. Unfortunately, my Spanish was lacking at that point, so I got the experience, but not the details. This video helped me fill in the gaps.
Nice. How were you surviving that deep in Mexico without a good grasp of Spanish?
@@CynicalHistorian I was a part of an apprenticeship program and I lived with other Americans who had been there longer. In the early days, I relied on them a lot, but immersion and a Spanish teacher who constantly berates you work fast when it comes to learning everyday stuff. Excellent experience overall. I’d live in central Mexico again in a heartbeat. Sadly, I’ve been out of practice with my Spanish for awhile now…
love late 19th century and early 20th century Mexican history exciting times with memorable figures
As long as you have the flow chart
Let me save some time by telling you guys, no one except for Porfirio Diaz himself makes it out alive! It's several decades of violence, backstabbing and treachery. One good thing that came out of it was the noble ideals of the Plan de Ayala and the man, the myth, the legend Emiliano Zapata. "Zapata Vive La Lucha Sigue" (Zapata Lives The Struggle Continues)
But Porfirio died before the revolution ended
@@sr.clumsy7802 Exactly, abroad and of natural causes! I thought I was clear that he was the only one to escape the violence.
@@Adartse310 Ah, ok i get it now
I like how you list your sources, I gotta start doing that!
As a Mexican… it’s a really confusing time during the Revolution. Almost like an anime as you put it lol
I like to call it an early 20th century game of thrones.
@The Dude With The Hat N.2
Not really.
It's not that confusing. The confusion that you equate to is Evangelion. It's one anime.
@@whathell6t animes are always having confusing storylines with several sides switching. Ex: bleach, death note, golden kamuy, etc-
@@1996koke Indeed, I think it´s one of the few times in recorded history when the death toll surpassed the birth rate
@@estebanperz4717That's only a few decades from becoming the norm
No lie, I once had a middle school teacher say that cinco de mayo was Mexican Independence Day and celebrated when they kicked Napoleon out (not Napoleon III mind you, NAPOLEON NAPOLEON)
I can understand studying one country and then randomly bumping into another one that’s even more complicated.
I host a podcast about Syria. Studying the county inadvertently lead me to learning about Lebanon and its history, and holy hell is that country complicated.
I can't believe 5 Second Films made a cameo in this one. I used to watch their videos every day in their prime. Now it seems like nobody remembers them!
I always love seeing the bookcases behind my fellow history UA-camrs!
Glad you could make a new “regular” format video, with your dissertation I can only imagine how busy you are! Latin American history is so interesting. Congratulations on the Discovery Channel.
Porfirio Diaz and the Porfiriato are interesting topics in Mexican history (that I know of). Imagine how nearly 40 years of rule saw massive changes in everything in Mexico while many things remain (painfully) the same...
Very cool episode man I enjoyed it a lot keep it up man 👍 I love Mexican history so much.
Can you do a video on Francisco Madero and his role during the Mexican Revolution? I'd be really interested in learning more about the topic.
Great video. Good coverage on a topic that usually gets very little. Thank you.
A summary of the history of Mexico.
A massive cluster Fck caused by internal issues, Europeans and Americans.
With the occasional glimmer of hope and prosperity.
Not America but okay
@@The_king567yes America, stop being an apologist. Or are you one of those “America does no wrong” types?
@@ramenbomberdeluxe4958 what’s my user name tell you that’s your answer
love the bangers in this video!! Keep it up amigo :)
Great stuff, thank you.
I rediscovered your channel 2 days ago, and just saw this video while browsing in UA-cam.
I don't really like gringo historical channel specially when talking about Mexico because of how biased they are but you are not like that so I like your channel.
Anyways, thanks for talking about my country, maybe we could have a US-Mexican War video in the future?.
After France was finally repelled in 1867, Díaz worked his way higher in the military ranks and became active in politics by campaigning against the popular president Benito Juárez. Juárez was campaigning for yet another term in office, and Díaz launched an armed rebellion against him in 1871. Díaz lost and was retired from service. However, Juárez died soon after and Díaz reemerged to challenge the former president's successor.
Another thing is how he continued the policy of revoking indigenous land rights that started when Mexico became a Republic. The empire of Mexico actually continued to recognize indigenous political entities and even made an alliance with the Comanche nation. The emperor even noted that the United States was the biggest threat to Mexico
woahhh, i haven't thought of 5 second films in ages
Learned a lot. Thank you. Do any of the sources stick out as helpful to someone looking to learn more?
dame love history channel like you bruh
There's Mike Duncan's Revolutions Podcast, which already covered the Mexican revolution. The podcast's bibliography together with the video's bibliography should provide a wide variety of options.
Truett is on my dissertation committee, so I'm biased toward his book. I also really like _Thread of Blood,_ since it covers the history of violence in Chihuahua/Sonora in an interesting way
I remember how when I took a trip to Mexico City, I went to the Frida House that is now a museum. Her father was a notable German photographer who was hired to take pictures for the government. I seen some photographs that were taken by him, on display at the house.
In the end, I really believe Diaz was his worst enemy when it comes to the matter of his legacy, by being so addamant to remain in power until his last breath he putted the whole nation againt him, including many elites of the Porfiriato who would eventually inherit the reigns of power. I like to believe that if he wasn´t so foolish the Revolution may not had happen and he would be honored today as the man who pulled Mexico into modernity.
Bro congratulations. You very smart and educated. You know more about mexico than i do.
The Mexican Revolution: 200 years of the revolution that never was.
Who is your favorite leader in Mexican history?
Flores Magon, or Emiliano Zapata
Alvaro Obregon was the most interesting, though my fave is Lazaro Cardenas.
Agustin I.
Lázaro Cárdenas He is simply, together with Juárez, the best president of Mexico.
When kitties get air time, you get a subscriber! I love a furry co-host.
Project Dictator seems like a great collab, already saw veritas & caritas on Chiang Kai-Shek.
Can't have a proper history collab without Cipher.
"Catarino Garza created the Garza Revolution on the Texas-Mexico Border"
*checks location of revolution and the location of my paternal family history*
Me: Well this is awkward....
By the way, the best biography of Catarino Garza was written by Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador: "Catarino Erasmo Garza Rodríguez: ¿Revolucionario o bandido?".
@@richardgrabman9639 The fact that AMLO wrote a book about him a couple years before he became president is wild! I gotta read it now, thanks!
@@richardgrabman9639 Héroe o Villano? jajajaja
Please do more history videos of México
Would have been funny to put King in Diaz's hat and call him Purrfirio Diaz for a joke.
He'd destroy the hat, but it would be funny if i could
If you could keep this going, a video on Modero, then Huerta, then Caranza and Villa, then Obrogon
Madero, Carranza y Obregon
I took 19 Century Europe a few years ago at college and Porfirio Diaz came up near the end and one guy in my class from Mexico straight up defended him on the basis that he "brought stability to the country" 🤦♂️. Also coincidentally there's a Porfirio Diaz Street near the campus
Conservatives like him, and generally conservatism had been gaining popularity in Mexico. I'm a sense, the Porfiriato was incredibly stable, especially considering the half century before and after. It all depends on perspective
@@CynicalHistorian yeah Iv seen that as well. I remember talking to that person after class to get his perspective and he thought that Mexico needed a strong authoritarian government similar to the one under Diaz because it was the only kind that could bring stability fighting the cartels. As said in this video though his government was corrupt and only some people prospered. That increased wealth inequality and corruption led to the Mexican Revolution.
Also sidenote: before class one day that same guy showed me and another classmate a picture of himself wearing a Wehrmacht uniform he ordered online 🤦♂️😅. So it made sense to me why he previously favored Diaz
@@Spongebrain97 ... wow, that's extreme!. I've lived in Mexico for 20+ years, have published on history (not as an acadermic) and have run into Porfirio groupies before... though usually their support comes from the dictator having pulled Mexico into the "modern world", and/or his adherence to "liberal" (i.e., "capitalist") philosophy. And, you still find a few positivists around.
Mostly, though, it's just people who don't like the recent socialist/social democratic government.
Man, Porfirio was cool and all, but Porfiriato fucking sucked ass, idk how anyone out of Middle School can unironically defend the Porfiriato
@@CynicalHistorian you're spot on, generally Diaz helped the country bring I stability and economic growth thanks to the Industrial Revolution, but he did a lot of very not-good things like the Yaqui exterminations and the massacres at Cananea/Río Blanco. Most of his recent popularity is more like historical nostalgia for a time of stability because of the ongoing drug wars, and massively publicized incidents like the Lydia Cacho case, the 2006 Oaxaca Uprising, militarization, etc. It also helps explain why the old ruling party (PRI) won back the Presidency in 2012 and still holds on to something like 9 State governorships, people want to go back to the "good old days".
Omg please tell me we are getting a Mexican Revolution series?
La Guerra de la Reforma was the civil war before the French invasion
Please Please Please Do a video on the Cristero War no one talks about it and is seen as forgotten🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
hay canales en español que hablan de él aprende español y velos
I'm planning on taking a special topics history course on gender and sexuality in Latin America this fall. Are there any books related to the intersection between the topics of historical political violence and social unrest in the region of the Southwest US and Mexico and gender and sexuality that you would recommend for further reading?
Absolutely! Check out that _Thread of Blood_ book in my bibliography
Gloria Anzaldúa kind of touches on that on her work (specially in Borderlands). She focuses mostly on Texas. You might find her kinda more 'literary' and contemporary than historical, but if you don't mind that, she's a good read.
@@CynicalHistorian saying Deaiz is favorite Mexican president, is like saying Nixon is your favorite American president
YESSSSSS!!!!!!!!
Porfirio Díaz was the Ferdinand Marcos senior of his time.
Most Mexican presidents were prominent... so true... :-P
I love the mexican revolution. I must confess I've fallen for the romanticism: Pancho Villa, Modero, Zapata and his land reform or death, the Soldaderas
their vision lives on in Chiapas.
Revolucion de Caracol! Viva los Zapatistas!
Cypher's youtube channel: "Poca política y mucha cínica!"
(I have no idea if the Spanish is correct or not I just thought this was a clever joke to make)
This video was good but if I’d had to critique anything then it would be not really explaining how Diaz handled strongmen or politicians who might have presented a threat to his regime as dictators before like Santa Anna lasted a few months at a time due to naive political skills. Also that coalmine strike later at Cananea was brushed off except for the American rangers part but could’ve mentioned why the Mexican striked due to huge wage difference and linking that back to how although the Mexican economy might’ve “boomed”, that wealth was not given to peasants who made up most of the populations. The part about Madero and the election of 1910 was brushed off with no explaining of who Madero was or how he represented new rich liberals who had grown fed up with Diaz for not stepping down. Idk, I like the video but I feel like it explained too many things in detail while not focusing on key moments of the rise and falls of the Diaz regime while linking that to why the revolution started(which debatably my did not change Mexican politics as the video said but more like in the 20’s after the military phase ended)
VIVA LA REVOLUTION
VIVE L'EMPEREUR!
can u expand more on this
you got dem crazy eyes..
Comment. Fuck UA-cam. Long live creators
5:30 Aren't those the soldiers who executed Maximilian I?
noce
"When Juarez's successor ran for election, which Mexicans frowned upon at the time." Wait why did Mexicans frown upon Sebastian Lerdo de Tejda?
No, we frown upon the concept of presidential re-election. That's how we got the military dictatorships of the 1830s-1850s.
One thing that differentiates the Mexican Presidency from the American one is that the idea and concept of reelection is banned, once you're elected you serve for 6 years and you can never run for the position again, considering that the first independent Mexican leader was an Emperor and many dictators (Santa Anna, Juarez, Lerdo de Tejada) started out by first challenging that concept. Fun fact, the old ruling party (Institutional Revolutionary Party) was partly created as a way to circumvent the restriction, because the President had defacto control over who would become the next President and could ensure that their ideology/agenda would continue to be enacted even when they themselves left office - it explains why after President Lazaro Cardenas left office the member party of the Socialist Internationale would eventually become the biggest proponent of market liberalization and privatization.
@@detleffleischer9418 por eso existe morena esperemos que le pasará en el futuro a los siguientes candidatos más a Ebrar lo siento como de derecha así que sería como un pan pero con más apoyo y a Claudia como de izquierda tal ves centro izquierda así que puede que se divida el partido
Diaz Is the best Mexican leader ever
Worst dictator in Mexican History.
@@mercedesgonzalez1658nope best president ever
Man, feel like his legacy is mixed same as Santa Anna.
A prof I was GAing for once said, "The US had George Washington to set the standard. Unfortunately for Mexico, Santa Anna set theirs."
@@CynicalHistorian Could you please elaborate on why Santa Anna was a bad precedent? I know very little about Mexican history, so I would be interested in learning more.
@@dinotsar6396 Santa Anna was petty and unapologetically corrupt. His poor diplomacy and mediocre military leadership is also the reason Mexico lost a lot of its Northern territories to the United States too. His time as leader was marked by 2 large foreign invasions and much internal instability.
@@extrahistory8956 Ah. Thank you!
@@CynicalHistorian ... Will Fowler wrote a generally sympathetic biography of Santa Ana, his argument (if I'm not reading something into it) that SA was, in many ways, a modern populist, less ideological than pragmatic. I give credit to Santa Ana for at least writing his own self-serving autobiography without a ghost writer 🙂
Fowler, "Santa Anna of Mexico" (Bison Books, 2009)
Santa Anna, "The Eagle" (Ana Fears Crawford, trans and ed), Austin: State House Press, 1967 (and I believe there are a few reprints out there, maybe a PDF).
Say what you will about the problems Mexico has now, because there sure are a lot of them...it's not whatever the hell this was.
Matthew 7:1-3 KJV
“[1] Judge not, that ye be not judged. [2] For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. [3] And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?”
With American history being so “complicated” Matthew 7:1-3 is the perfect passage for judgment on other nations history.
Just don’t forget John 7:24 were Jesus commands righteous judgment.
Judge not or you will be judged amen
More screams at wilson
KITTY!!
"Blessed Mexico, so closed to god and not too far from the U.S." - AMLO
Ay caramba
Zapata contributed nothing to la patria.