3 Lessons Every Hiker Needs to Learn From Missing Hiker Samantha Sayers
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- Опубліковано 9 сер 2018
- On August first, 28 year old Samatha Sayers went on a solo trek up Vesper Peak in Norther Cascades. Friends and family say she is an avid hiker, with experience rock climbing and traversing rough terrain. In fact Sayers’ had hiked up Vesper Peak several times, which has a poorly defined trail surrounded by dangerous cliffs and rocky slopes. (NOTE: in this video I incorrectly reported that it was her first time) A hiker reportedly had lunch with her near the summit around 3 PM, but then later witnessed her descending the mountain to the South, in the wrong direction. Ten days later, Snohomish County's rescue workers continue to search for her in one of the counties longest searches.
Already we know some of the mistakes Sayers made. In this video, we discuss mistakes that most day hikers make.
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My husband is a hunter and he often goes out into the mountains for a week at a time, and I worry about him out there. Sept. first is our 33 rd wedding anniversary, so thanks to you and this video I am going to get him a satellite beacon. Thank you for all the great information.
Jerrilyn Zufelt great gift and piece of mind.
A beacon will be of no use for your hunter hubby when Bigfoot hunts him down in the wilderness for killing innocent wild animals just for pleasure
Jerrilyn Zufelt, congratulations on your upcoming wedding anniversary! That's great your getting him a beacon. It gives my wife and I both some peace of mind for sure!
I'm sure he will be thrilled you'll be tracking him now step by step ;)
Corvux IX 😂
The words I share to as many as I can is this:
Those who go into the wilderness prepared only for ideal conditions are not prepared for the wilderness at all.
Also, the best way to exemplify true experience in a way that counts is to have the humility of realizing that mountains do not care one bit about things like fitness or a tourist schedule.
Always take enough extra to accommodate staying overnight in extreme conditions if the need arises.
Thanks for sharing this important information. I live in Everett Washington. I've hiked Vesper Peak several times. I can tell you that this is not an easy hike. The terrain is rugged, muddy, plenty of loose rock, snow, ice, dense brush. This type of hike requires your full attention at all times. I hiked Vesper Peak yesterday and saw helicopters searching for the missing hiker. Also this hike is 8 miles roundtrip, 4 miles from trailhead to summit, and vice versa from summit to trailhead another 4 miles. The hike starts at the 2200 ft level. Vesper Peak summit is at 6220 ft. That's 4000ft of evelation gain. For every mile you gain about 1000ft or so. You cross dry creek beds, running water streams. Wertz basin is rugged terrain. Also you have to keep an eye out for falling rock. Before you reach Headlee Pass you have to hike up 500ft up a scramble. Headlee Pass (4600ft) is the 1/2 way point to Vesper Peak. Also there are a lot of dead end trails on this hike. It's important to stay on trail. The information you shared is vital. After watching this I will be getting a beacon for myself. I'm an avid hiker. Washington state is one of the best places to hike day hikes.
Hmmm.... a beacon is useful if you are conscious, able to reach for the item to push the button, lost. But what if you fall down a cliff and are unconscious, or you cannot move and you are alone out there, uh? Will bears, Bigfoot activate the beacon for you? Lol, think about it :)
Jose, Thanks for the details on the Vesper Peak. Yeah, I thought a beacon would restrict my freedom, but I actually go a lot more places with it now. Glad to hear you are ripping it up out there.
@@XOXO-mb2vh I know you're frustrated. I've been hiking Vesper Peak since 2006. This is not a walk in the park kind of hike. Also if you're looking for someone this hike will require lots of attention. It's impossible to cover a lot of ground all at once. The best way is to go in a group and pick an area and search it thoroughly. There are so many crevices, dry creeks, rock etc. Don't feel frustated. I advice you to check the findsamsayers Facebook page. The family has updates and maps of were they are searching.
I don’t know that I’d even call it a “hike”. Anything that requires you to follow unmaintained poorly marked paths or scramble up rock ledges / scree fields is bordering on “mountaineering”. It isn’t really good enough to think you can follow a faint trail the entire time. You really need visual awareness of landmarks and terrain features so you can confidently cut cross-country and find your own route if need be. If you just blindly follow a faint boot path it’s really easy to start accidentally following false paths that lead nowhere, whether they’re made by goats, other lost hikers, or a combination of the two.
Sounds like an extreme version of Canada's "Grouse Grind". I'm also wondering about bears in August in the area.
As a resident of the Olympic Peninsula and avid hiker/backpacker with above average bush skills, this tragic story reads on gut level as a fall. I haven’t hiked this specific trail but spent some time on the topos and Google Earth and IMHO it’s too dicey to tackle solo. The terrain has “buddy hike” written all over it. 🙏🏻❤️
I think your right. I am curious how the body disappeared. They were using stones to search. There must be an odd crevice some where.
I was a huge solo hiker in Colorado, but Washington hikes scare me. The wilderness out here is on another level.
Nah,
Much more likely she was murdered. No cell phone or equipment found. Because it was taken away.
A major factor you got incorrect in this video - this was NOT Sam's first trip to Vesper Peak. She's hiked it several times and is very familiar with the trails and terrain. She would not have gone alone if it was her first time hiking it. As a friend of hers, it's disappointing to read the nasty comment section based on almost exclusively incorrect information, with people insisting she's dead and calling her stupid. The reality is, bad things can happen regardless of how experienced you may or may not be.
Cindy G, I have noted that mistake in the video description. However, that in fact makes my point even stronger. Even experienced hikers need to be prepared for more than a day hike. As for the negativity, yeah, that bums me out too. But one of the big reasons I started this channel was because I noticed both experienced and inexperienced outdoors people die or disappear from common mistakes that can be avoided, if one chooses.
Thank you for updating the description - I hate to see people saying she's stupid and went the wrong way when she knew the trail very well. You're absolutely correct in saying that common mistakes can be disastrous for ANY hiker, and I wish there had been a better way for her movements to be tracked. Apparently her phone sent an SOS (though I'm still not entirely sure what that means), but for the majority of the hike there was no service and her phone has proven to be of basically no use to SAR efforts.
@@goke8456, reguarding the SOS, sometimes a text will get through where there is a second or two of weak coverage. Quite the mistery. Statistically, cliffs are the biggest risk, rock fall from other hikers are a big danger too. Less hypothermia this time of year. Animal attack is a real possibility.
As someone who hasn't hiked but grew up in Alaska, I thought it odd there are no animals at all in any of the drone footage. Is that typical, do they move about at night, or...not at all? Or is the mountain so full of activity there's few animals moving about up there right now?
I'm not sure in this area. I know when I go out, I rarely see wild animals deeper in the woods around here.
Thankyou for simple yet life saving advise. We are sending prayers to this beautiful young woman, friends and family🙏.
I'm loving your channel, fantastic😊👍🏽. Looking forward to seeing more, cheers from Down Under 🦘🦘🦘🦘🦘
I hope she is found one way or another so the family can have her back home. I cannot imagine never finding my loved one.
Great tips. Thanks! I pray she is found soon. The family and volunteers are doing an amazing job with the search.
Praying that they find her. Thanks for the reminder on how to be safe!
His friends said that Brian Perri could survive in the wilderness because he was trained by the Army, he was a survivalist. But the thing is that nobody trained Brian to fall 30 or 40 feet from a vertical wall of rocks on rocks without using a parachute. That was the problem
Great topic. I would also add a candle lantern and 3 pk of replacement candles this along with a mylar poncho or LG blanket of mylar can keep you from hypothermia even if you can't move because of a broken hip or leg. Very light weight and a real life saver that's often overlooked.
Awesome advice.
I'm a Washington native and a solo hiker of the North Cascades (profile pic is at Pinnacle Lake not too far from Vesper). My prayers are with the family and Sam.
pinnacle lake.. such a deceiving hike during the early spring!
Good job man 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
I'm glad you're on this , dude.
Superb information!!! This goes for bikes/MCs as well... it is so easy to get off-track and/or become injured!
Great advice
I have grown to really enjoy your videos and I think you do a truly amazing job! I would like to say that my heart breaks for the family and friends of Samantha Sayers. I have been watching the drone videos for hours and trying to spot something. This is a tragedy and what I have learned most from this incident is that I will always wear bright clothing when I go on my solo hikes. Samantha supposedly was wearing Grey pants and a green sports bra which makes it nearly impossible to spot her on the mountain. From now on I will always try to find someone to hike with and if I can't then I will try to wear something bright orange or yellow regardless of how silly I may look or feel. God bless samantha and her family. I hope they find her one day.
Sam is my teachers cousins daughter
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Nice job on this video. Good production, though a sad topic.
Aaron Finley, thanks. Yes, it is a said topic.
This young lady is originally from Pennsylvania in my hometown, I know her family and they are very nice people. I hope they find her soon. Prayers out to all.
She is my teachers cousins daughter
My theory is Samantha went the opposite way on the trail at the top to go pee. She lost her footing and fell on the other side of the mountain. I have seen videos of this hike and it is totally possible. You are way up there.
I live north of Seattle and hike on mountain loop all the time. They still have tons of missing signs up for Sam. Though they hardly attack I have seen bears in that area and falls can always happen. I imagine there was plenty of snow and ice on the summit. Sending prayers to her family I can not imagine the pain they feel. Life is precious. Wishing everyone safe hiking.
Great advice man, I’ve looked at those beacons myself. You can text on some basic plans also, just to let people know you are safe. If you are going out by yourself I think they are really important.
Hike 2 hike the delorme has the plans on their site
It's so cool as your family can follow your tracks on Facebook if you like. It's Google Earth with you as a moving dot
A beacon will be useless if you fall, are unconscious and alone :) Get real
Forever Karma that’s exactly why you need a beacon, people can find you by the gps signal if you fall and become unconscious.
I've been hoping all week for her safe return home I couldn't imagine what her mother is going through right now, her whole family for that matter.
Right On!
Thanks
Wow! So glad I found you. Thanks Nancy - Ohio Saquatching
I sure hope this young woman is alive and they find her soon.
To be realistic, she must be dead now
Super unfortunate story. I do wish that they would publish a list of known facts for the case of those who would like to help. Great advice and I agree on getting and using a sat beacon. They are super cheap. InReach, the one I use allows for you to toggle the service off and on if you aren't going to use it in a month as well as sending a number of messages on progress to people. If you use them properly, they would greatly help in any recovery efforts. Make sure your loved ones/informed ones know which service you have to minimize delay in getting you help if you are in trouble.
I hadn’t even heard until this video that someone had seen her heading down the south side, I live in Darrington and have spent a lot of time in the high country never this particular area but as an avid hunter to strays off the trail all the time I’ve been lost a handful of times. With no map or compass just google images of the areas I hike copied in my brain I’ve been able to find my way out same but except one occasion I had to spend the night. Any how I studied the google earth images of vesper peak and without knowing where the trail up from the mountain loop side was I figured what I thought would be the route later to find that I was right on the money, why I’m getting at is I can see an area that I can imagine her getting turned around and heading down the south side basically following vesper creek down to sultan river I feel once she got down to the river she may have confused it with the stilly and began looking around the river for the road or trail after some and going down stream to no avail she headed back up stream try to find where she got to the river originally I feel it would s very likely she then turned around, very confused and scared she then may have headed back up the mountain but being turned around I feel she may have actually headed up on the south side of the river which would put her some where up near red mountain. I don’t know who to contact but if someone wants to get in contact with me my email jkorr84gmail.com. It’s just a hunch but I have a strong feeling she is somewhere between rainy gulch and red mountain. Prayers to the friends and family that she is found safe.
Interesting idea. I'll look at that on the map, but there are just friends looking for her now.
You can email your thoughts to findsamsayers.infobox@gmail.com
When I hiked Smith rock my first day hike with my son just to experience what it's like abd what can go wrong we sure did a couple of things 1st the trail forks off and the trail may just be a game trail so look at small things on the trail to help you get back onto the right trail and 2nd my son sprained his ankle on small rocks where there was a rock slide so swollen feet will slow you down and take you off the trail for hours third leg cramps ! I had them towards the end it was unbearable!! Take IBprophen!! Seriously to help with pain,inflammation to keep you going and third prepare for lack of water! Get a filter straw!! We run out of water so fast and it's heavy do have both and do not hike alone and when you leave the trail to use the toilet mark your trail to find your way back! Tie a string around your wrist to the tree on the trail to guide you back if your in the wooded forests ! Thank you and I am looking forward to more hikes with my dog too any advise is appreciated.
Good advice.
I really enjoy your channel, keep up the good work!
Maybe you could Recommend a rescue becon and or GPS Device. I am going into the woods shortly and would like a little information from someone knowledgeable.
Earth Dweller, I use a Delorme InReach, which UA-camr Browndwarf gave to me. I think they have a newer product out, but I've found it to be reliable and effective in both sending and receiving messages. It pairs with their map app on your phone. It's not perfect but it works.
Earth Dweller, I'm not familiar with some of the newer devices. Maybe I'll try to set up a review sometime.
If I can add one thing. Do not rely on GPS alone, no garmin, phone app, or the like can replace your brain a map and a good compass. Learn orienteering and get good topographical maps and practice plotting. You can do these things in your back yard, or even football fields for quick practice. Technology is wonderful but it is a crutch that cannot and should never replace your ability to think critically.
Just, People please remember "Be Prepared". That's the scout motto and it's a good way to remember things easily overlooked.
Sound advice.
Some new hikers try, but the temptation and peer pressure to rely on stupid apps really dominates the new culture that rejects well established field skills.
What they don't realize is that building real skills is like building muscle, it takes time and effort and if you don't do it, you will be weak.
I call those who rely on apps the 24/7 lost boys because they really are in a constant state of being lost by being totally dependent on electronics.
A skilled person with real land navigation map reading skills can work a simple app in minutes, but the other way doesn't work at all.
The little rhyme I use to point out the distinction is this
Travelers use maps
Tourists use apps
@@paulrevere2379 Sad but true.
When technology raises the young, the young get nothing but sharp doses of reality.
Well done. If only some of the people written about my David Palides in his books Missing 411 could have taken your advice.
Thanks for the info, have you been asked to help in the search? I hike solo sometimes but only on well known trails or with a friend. It's scary sometimes being out there alone, I carry a sidearm too
Sasqmoto, yes, I got the request for search and rescue volunteers, but it's just to far away and I have other commitments I must tend right now. I wish I could have helped on the ground.
Thanks, I know you would if you could. Hopefully they find her soon.
And blast whistle !! Good video !!
Bill Wolfram, true.... and ideally a few other items too :)
Lol, do you really believe that blowing a whistle can help ? :)
breadandcircus1 Well go outside and try yelling for one hour ! Then try a whistle !
LOL, so people will hear your whistling and run to help you ???
Samantha’s boyfriend spent weeks out there searching and found nothing but he did go out with Rachel Lakoduk‘s husband to help search for her and found her body months after she disappeared in a storm. It was so sad, he still goes out looking for her.
There should be an app to indicate all the crap that can kill you once you input your hiking level and the name of said trail.
Lol. That would be great.
Everyone knows you should have a magnesium stick for starting fires if you end up getting lost. What I recommend are a few cigars. Not those cheapy blunts you buy at the gas station, but some genuine fat stogie types. A good cigar will give you a means to transport an ember in the event that you are going to have to hike your way back to safety, and a good cigar will burn slow, only needing a puff every few minutes to stay lit which works really well as a flame bearing device. A few packages of sealed tissues are good items to combo with the cigar because, say you fall ankle/knee deep into a stream or something and your whole bottom half is soaked. Well you're going to need a fire asap depending on where you are and what season it is when you got lost and your socks will be soaked so you can't use the lint from them to act as kindling. The sealed package of tissue paper will have been impervious to the water if sealed properly, and it's highly flammable so it's a good start to your campfire when combo'ed with your cigar.
Looks a dangerous place hope sam is ok thanks rat and cat.👌🏽🏆👍🏻
It's remarkable that humans wont last too long in wild if not ready
Hello hope you are ok she's has to be out there somewhere good video
In Lynn Canyon the forest canopy right in the city can get you dis=oriented!!! North Vancouver (North Shore Rescue) which includes volunteers like the MAYOR of the city respond to tourists, locals, and people who should know better as coastal weather is a trap: sunny in town and snowing on your way back down Grouse mountain.
The truth is, Sam had an aficionado for taking death defying selfies on cliff edges. This was the most likely cause of her demise. Check her IG. There are photos and even a foreshadowing of her death by this exact cause. We are 66 days out. There is over 7 inches of snow on the mountain. It is time to start accepting the fact that she is dead and may never be recovered. Start the healing process for friends, family, and mountain.
According to Sam's Mom this was not her first time to hike Vesper,she had done it a few times.
lunemagick, yes, this was based of earlier info. I'll try to note that in the description. Thanks!
Yes to Satellite Beacon. No to SPOT. A SPOT must be activated. If you are injured you may not be able to activate. Buy an inReach and set it to send your location to the web every two hours. Battery charge lasts five days if on continuously (I turn mine off at night to make battery last longer). $16/mo is great peace of mind for your family if you solo hike.
Incorrect, the SPOT has the same feature of auto broadcasting also.
this is not correct. The Spot Gen 3 does send automatic signals. You can customize the timing of the sent signals. There is a SOS button used only when SAR is required; that is manual. There are three other buttons that can be used per the discretion of the user. My choices are: 1. I'm checking in and am OK. 2. I have finished and am heading home (sent when returned to the car) 3. I am OK but need help. 4. is the SAR button and only used in life threatening situation. All of these send the recipient the GPS coordinates in addition to the message. However the Spot Gen 3 does send signals for tracking without manual intervention, provided it is turned on and the tracking button has been activated once. If you have done that, and were unable to activate the SOS button, there would be a signal from your current position, provided the Spot was in position facing skyward. But if that failed, at least there would be a record of the past tracking signals that had been sent. You can set tracking to send a signal every 10 mins if desired. I would think a signal sent every 2 hours could potentially leave a lot of distance/ground to decipher/search.
Thanks for the correction. I wasn't aware of the new generation SPOT device and it's good to know that SPOT continues to improve their product. I think the auto track is a great option. I use the 2 hour track timing on my inReach so the battery will last longer as I'm usually out for several days. You are correct though, if someone were to fall into a location where no signal could get out, then searchers would have to assume you could be anywhere within two hour travel time of the last track. On the other hand, if the device can still see a satellite then it becomes a mute point as all subsequent tracks will be on target. It's a tradeoff with battery time.
I have seen several references to an SOS sent by Samantha by PHONE the afternoon she disappeared. I understand iPhones have an SOS feature so I am wondering if that is what they might be referring to (I have no idea what kind of phone she has). But, how would that work if there is no cell service on Vesper?
Desert Fox, I saw some reference to that too, but when I spoke with the sheriff's Office a week ago, they said no messages had been sent. Cellphones, I phones included, cannot send information without a cell tower. However, you can try sending a text and of your phone connects even momentarily to a weak signal, it sometimes can get through. It's worth trying of its all you've got.
You don't need a beacon. You need a map, a compass and a buddy.
Great subject . I go hundreds of miles away from people and one of the most assuring things I do is marking your path. I use ribbon and other ways of identifying where I was .Use what works for you. Every 100 ft mark yourself . God Bless.
that is some fantastic advice. I would advise people to use free apps based on Openstreetmap and always carry 2 smart phones with extra batteries. Also, the recent revolution in flashlight technology is important because you can have a flashlight with 50.000 lumens that can save your life
I think the guy that had lunch with her have something to do with her disappearance...He a good lair...
I bought the Res Q Link PLB and I like it b/c it doesn't require a subscription.
Hikers are generally very peaceful and trustworthy people, so I don't think that was the problem. Like others have said, she may have went down the wrong way, or tried to climb another peak nearby and fell.
A beacon, a tent,. blankets, whatever, will be of no use if she falls down a cliff, is unconscious, or badly hurt and she's alone out there. A beacon will be of no use if she is attacked by a bear, any wild animal, or a serial killer and she is alone in the wilderness. Brian Perri was a great climber, survivalist, and he died recently when he fell down a cliff on MT. Meeker
I helped look for Brian. Small world isn't it. It would be great if there was a device that could share your location - that you didn't need to manually activate.
Eventually, a device will be created showing location of the person, or his/her body. Brian was am experienced climber, a survivalist, but he died from a fall. Death does not care about your hiking skills, beacon, age, whatever. Some people believe they are invulnerable, that they can go into wilderness and handle anything. Well, Death can have other idea :)
Raw Vegan Food For Thought, most GPS units have an option to to track. I usually start mine to automatically leave way points the it sends via satellite at regular intervals. My wife can watch my progress live if she wants. If I was incapacitated, and send an "Everything is OK" message at a regular time, it would continue to send out my location so my wife and emergency services would know where I am at. Also, my wife can send me messages to ask if I'm OK if she is concerned.
Are you searching for Samantha, Nikia >
breadandcircus1, I am not helping with the active search for Samantha. It's quite a ways to drive (about 5 hours away) which would be a hardship on my family. I also have other pressing commitments right now.
Take a Topographic map and COMPASS... no batteries to run out of juice like a GPS.
Also, if you get down in some steep draws or canyons, GPS and satellite beacons may not work at all.
I'm pretty sure this was NOT her first time alone hiking Vesper Peak
Can you do one on the two girls h became lost and found dead in Panama? One of the girls parents film as they follow the girls steps and they claim they could not have gone off the trail and if they continued they would shortly notice they needed to turn around and would have. Plus many other strange things that happened.
Hmm. I'll look into it.
Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon, another completely baffling case
@@greent6823 Thats the one I was referring to. Lost in Panama I think is whats it's called. But if not it won't be the first time I've been wrong.
What if you fall and become unconscious - how will any of these devices help to locate you?
Raw Vegan Food For Thought, you are exactly right. That's why it's safer to travel with a buddy, or better yet, a group.
it's what I say: a beacon will be useless in that case. You have more chances to survive hiking a forest if you go hiking with an experienced person, a person you'd trust to save your life if necessary
Forever Karma, yes. Especial important to have experienced team members on more difficult expeditions.
Actually, whenever I go out I give a link to family members where the can track my movement. The beacon can be set to automatically send out your location at regular time intervals, or wherever you choose to send one out. If you got hit in the head, emergency services would know exactly where you are, as the beacon would continue to send out your location.
Rat and Cat, You seem pretty knowledgeable about preparedness in rugged terrain. Are you out there? Helping to #findsamsayers ?
John told the story of being lost in the wilderness for 4 days, in this podcast - WhatWasThatLike.com/26
The EPIRB or personal satellite locator beacons are *not* at all reliable for obtaining rescue. Do some research and you'll learn they function much more like a law enforcement communication system than satellite communications.
I rely more on knowledge and experience in preparation for the unexpected while in the woods and carry triple redundant fire starting means, triple redundant GPS navigation systems, and double down on the old fashioned military compass and weatherproof maps. It can all be packaged in very compact individual places in your gear and adds very little weight.
First-aid skills and kits, compact water purification and a high quality multitool are equally important to carry when preparing for the unknown.
Green MarineFive-O, thank you for sharing. In my first hand experience, and with teams I've worked with, using Garmin emergency beacons for sending and receiving casual information about location, from here in the United States to Patagonia, they have been quite reliable. Heck i can text back and forth with my wife and team members back in civilisation when I want to. I haven't come across info to indicate significant failures, but if you have some experience with these devices failing personally, or links to stories of that happening, I'm interested. However, I do agree that redundant systems are imperative to anyone serious about staying alive. A lot of people are unaware of quickly a disaster or injury can cause a well planned expedition to go South.
You have a thyroid condition and should go see a doctor right away. The whites of your eyes should never show under the iris. That is a sign of a thyroid condition. I saw this a lot in India where people do not get enough iodine. Use morton salt, eat seaweed, crumble it over your salads, etc. But go see a doctor right away. Best to you and thank you for the informative videos. Lots of stories about people who get turned around backwards on trail. Gotta mark it before you leave it. and NEVER leave your gear behind.
Hiking alone is much less fun.
For a day hike bring what you need for a week. Know how to make fire. Have enough rope; know how to belay and self-belay.
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NEVER HIKE ALONE.....
Vesper Peak, Mount Meeker, Mt. Everest, etc. are sending out a message to people who believe they are superhumans, superior to the mountains: "do not underestimate us by overestimating your skills. We can overpower you easily"
So... I’m from Washington and I’m following her disappearance through a Facebook page made by her boyfriend. Please find the facts before posting and ill informed video. She had alopecia and is very healthy, she did not have cancer. It was her 6th time climbing Vesper, not her damn first time. Get your facts straight. Besides where is the guy who made this vid from? Not Washington. Washington’s cascades are some of the most rugged mountains and contains very thick temperate forest, it would be very easy to get lost even experienced. Facts people, facccttts. There is absolutely nothing wrong with hiking alone, that is what hikers do, backcountry skiers too, people can blame the victim all they want. We go into these risky situations knowing full well what we are doing.
Madison, I never said Sayers had cancer in this video. Thanks for letting me know she had climbed it six times before. I'll try to verify and correct that if necessary (BTW, do you know that first hand from talking with her, or second hand through Facebook?) I live in the Cascades. People do often hike alone, and they often go missing. That's largely what my channel is about. I go out into the wilderness and search for those who are still missing, so others can learn how to survive.
FYI, the boyfriend a bit suspect - if you haven't heard or read. FB page was taken down.
Buckeye Bigfoot sent me.
Cool. Thanks for letting me know. I'll have to thank him!
She wearing dream man clothes. Cotton. Sweat or rain or falling into the water will change you warm cotton clothes from 100% warm to under body heat. In fact you wet cotton and let the wind blow and you got a evaporation 10+ % cooler than the outside air. And if your body temperature goes under you got Hypothermia a mean head ache and you want to sleep. But you sleep you die and freeze. Poly stay warm even wet.
Deadman clothes
My Italian made wool sweater goes with me on all long hikes no matter what time of year.
(Under $10 at thrift store - I just patched a few holes that nobody sees anyway)
Was he receiving cancer therapy? I say this bc of her baldness
breadandcircus1, alopecia.
Are you sure ?
As reported by several news sources. It wasn't a factor in my story, so I didn't ask the PIO about it.
Lol. Ok
Yes, I'm in the facebook group #findsamssayers she has alopecia.
Kevin Dares, Samantha Sayers's boyfriend, the one who says he hiked that trail and mountain in the darkness the day she disappeared, just posted today a video a him dancing with others on the top of a mountain ( VESPER PEAK) ? on FACEBOOK. But he says he is "heartbroken" for Samantha's disappearance. This man must be on the eye of WA Police
That day was Sam's birthday,you should check on facts before spouting your BS.He took alittle time to celebrate her.
My first thought tbh.
So? Even for her birthday, it was suspicious as hell. The guy's not right. He left home to search for Sam after she was *only one hour late.* Having to drive nearly 3 hours to search with a crappy flashlight, that broke? Yeah, right. He likely intercepted and killed her on the way down the mountain (he could've hidden anywhere, it's quite wild and rocky). He had nearly *7 hours in that vast mountain area* to potentially hide her body before calling cops at 1am. He is definitely suspect!
Don't forget the money (thousands) he was raising left & right, with NO proof of where the money was spent or donated. He claimed it was for the survival bags, but experts have called him out on his lack of transparency.
myself and many of friends hike, due to different schedules we usually hike solo but message each other where and when we are going,
Nothing he did is out of the ordinary, i would start searching if they hadn't arrived within an hour as if its a long drive out there and they are just running late you will run into them on the way back anyway. There is no point calling police or SARs earlier as they cant do anything until its been a reasonable time missing and at that time your not really expecting the worse.
He did exactly what anyone else would do, what would you have done thats different?
As for only taking a torch out there, would you have found it less suspicious if he went shopping for more equipment first? It kind of sounds no matter what his actions were you've already decided it was him
I wonder if Samantha's boyfriend had anything to do with her disappearance. He says he went to look for her on the trail, the base of the mountain in pitch black conditions the night she disappeared, that he fell and broke his flashlight, and had to use his cellphone to hike, REALLY??? I am suspicious now
Wow, Allthings, I'm thinking the same thing. Foul play, maybe? One never knows. His story about that night is a little strange
You can be sure law enforcement is investigating that side of it too. It's considered a crime seen from the start.
I have wondered this also; yes he is very involved in her search. but that happens many times...sometimes the person closest to the missing is somehow involved in the disappearance and by his being so involved in the search is can make one look innocent. Is she even on the mountain anymore? so odd that not one thing of hers has been found on the mountain.
I was up camping there the day she went missing. He came up early in the morning screaming her name and looking for her. I doubt it was foul play because we did not see him with her while she was hiking (my group was one of the last to see her)
@@stephen525 , thank you for telling folks about what you witnessed.
Samantha Sayers like Brian Perri died from arrogance up in the mountains. They believed they could outsmart mountains but the mountains had other plans for them
She's not "dead" until there is a dead body. She could be captured for an we know.
could you be any more Insensitive??
Her boyfriend's story about how he looked for her by himself the night she didn't return sounds fishy to me
breadandcircus1, law enforcement approach each missing person case as a crime scene. You can be sure they are questioning people around her for motive and to make sure their storiies are straight.
Yes, Nikia, that's true. So many stories and cries from people whose loved ones went missing, and in the end the ones crying, looking for them were the people who had killed them. I have watched on UA-cam that trail leading to the mountain, the trail Samantha walked. It looks like a jungle, dangerous like hell. I don't believe her boyfriend went alone to walk that trail the night she disappeared only with a flashlight, then he "fell" and "broke" the flashlight BUT he continued his search using his cellphone. This sounds fishy to me. He had enough time to disappear her completely. Police should look the waterfall
Exactly!
A lesson solo female hikers could learn from Samantha Sayers is never ever have a meal with a complete stranger in the wilderness, and never ever tell a boyfriend the time you're coming from hiking, climbing a mountain. Tell only your mother, or sibling. Be extra cautious: your life depend on it
You're getting all the details wrong and turning it into a suspicious case. Why do you feel the need to comment negatively on everyone's comment? Sorry you're so angry
That report of eating lunch with a male hiker was said to be not true, by Sam's mom. It was only a causal conversation & this is a common thing in the hiking community. I find hikers to be some of the most friendly & kind people on this planet.
The case IS suspicious. Clearly you're not following it.
The hiker came forward and LE and was checking on him. The boyfriend is more likely the key (if you haven't read yet). Or perhaps she ran into other trouble on the mountain. I hope answers come for her family.
13 days and Samantha has not been found. Probabilities to find her alive are almost zero. Foul play is a possibility in my opinion. She ate lunch in the mountain with a male hiker she found. This is a no-no for a woman alone in the wilderness to do. Did she call her boyfriend to tell him this? You have to be cynical to find the truth. He says he arrived at 8 PM the day she disappeared to search for her. Yeah, alright, armed with a flashlight he went to the base of the mountain, according to him. Samantha went hiking wearing pants, and a sports bra. What the hell was she thinking?. It seems to me she did not have a lot of common sense. Poor young lady, her mother is suffering a lot for her
That report of eating lunch with a male hiker was said to be not true, by Sam's mom. It was only a causal conversation & this is a common thing in the hiking community. I find hikers to be some of the most friendly & kind people on this planet. It would be extremely difficult for foul play to take place on a mountain/hike that is very popular & lots of hikers. Also, she was seen by the boy scouts @ 3 pm, 3 hours after the conversation with the hiker. Also seen going down the south side of the mountain which is the wrong way down! Praying they find her soon & healing can begin for the family. Very sad story & hoping all hikers will take to heart this video; doing their part to be prepared not only for themselves, but for others they might run into that they can help.
The boyfriend is really suspicious. He left to drive nearly 3 hours to search for her on a dark mountain, when she was only ONE HOUR LATE. That's insane! LE will sniff his butt accordingly.
Obviously the hiker won't have mentioned seeing her if he killed her
Poor Samantha Sayers paid with her life for her stupidity, recklessness going alone to hike a dangerous mountain and walking a dangerous trail too. Her mother should have told her not to put her life at risk. This poor woman believes her daughter is alive after 3 weeks, ha ! Samantha seems to be another 411 MISSING case
It's painful to see her mother's delusion.
She surely is dead. Cause of death: bad judgement. She believed she was superwoman and she went to climb that dangerous, treacherous terrain ALONE, well, she surely fell from a cliff. She obviously had a death wish
How awful of you to say this about someone you do not even know. You have no idea what has happened to her and you should watch what you post on social media. Her family is hurting and very worried and you should be respectful.
I agree very bad thing to say maybe you can edit that.
It's "awful" to say the truth, Michelle? She was STUPID going alone to hike, climb that treacherous mountain. She's dead now. You have to be stupid as to not understand something so simple, and come up with lame wishes and comments. Get real, fool
Your prayers are useless, simpleton Michelle. Sam croaked in that mountain. You will see it. Keep posting idiotic comments, ha ha ha
I agree with you, Karma. The poor woman must be dead. She was stupid enough as to go alone to climb the mountain, and stupid enough as to eat lunch with a stranger there in the mountain. Well
When I go out for a day hike, its for a day hike. I don't need to OVER prepare just because bad luck happens to the occasional person once in a blue moon. Sh*t happens. For example, I only wear seat belts when the roads are slick with snow and ice. So basically I've been driving without seat belts for 40 years and only have 20 years left before "seat belts" get to save my life. The odds are, I'll NEVER get in a crash where they could have saved my life. So if I was a "believer" then I would have spent 60 years in preparation for something that never happened. And the point would be? Preparing for something that will never happen, is a complete waste of time. It only proves that government can exert that type of control over citizens and over the course of time, americans accept more and more control over their lives, simply because government said so.
Guy Daley, Guy, listen to this old goat's tale: ua-cam.com/video/2k6I7NYvgIQ/v-deo.html
You don't seem that smart. If you get in one accident where a seat belt could have saved you, you're dead and it doesn't matter. If you wear your seat belt all the time you don't have to worry about that. It's all playing odds, you're way more of a gambler than is necessary.
One of the lessons every female hiker should learn is not to wear only a bra ( not blouse on Samantha ) to go hiking alone. There are creepies in wilderness. She was quite stupid going to summit a mountain with NO STAF LIKE BLANKETS, FOOD IN CASE SHE GOT LOST, OR INJURED. Other lesson: do not be so ARROGANT as to believe you can beat DEATH just because you are "experienced". Brian Perri and Samantha Sayers believed they were "very experienced" and died in the wilderness. Ha ! Get a clue
and you're still an emotard!
You don't know that foul play was involved. Even if it was, there is no basis to the assumption that dressing more 'modestly' would have protected her or that there are even 'creepies' in the wilderness.