Here's an easy pronunciation guide for bagel: you've got the last syllable right, gle as in sea gull. But you're saying the first syllable as bag as in paper bag, it needs to be bae, as in the nickname you're wife calls the straight guy who got her pregnant. But it's not surprising, other UA-cam Canadians like Crowder have similar problems.
In 1975, my mother gifted me a Sunbeam mixer with glass bowls. The mixer was not new. She received it as a wedding gift in 1949. She was given a new Kitchen Aid so I got the Sunbeam. The Sunbeam had glass bowls. The Sunbeam died in 1986. My mother got me a Kitchen Aid to replace it. I kept the glass bowls because the Kitchen Aid came with metal bowls that say Korea on the bottom. The glass bowls are not as big as Jamie’s new bowl but I still prefer them. I am still using my 1986 Kitchen Aid.
@@donnaburkett7854 My grandmother had a black and white Sunbeam Mixmaster stand mixer with white glass bowls that she had gotten as a wedding present in 1934, and which she used until she passed away in 1993. It went to my mother who then passed it on to one of my sisters when she passed away in 2012. Introduced in 1930, the Sunbeam Mixmaster was the first mechanical mixer with two detachable beaters whose blades interlocked.
I'm 69, but as a teenager Seventeen magazine published a bagel recipe and instructions for making them long before they were available anywhere in Iowa. I clipped it from the magazine and it's the only bagel recipe I've ever used! turns out perfect every time. Thanks Seventeen!
I think my mom made this recipe too! She’s told me about clipping a recipe from a magazine when she was in high school and trying it out when she was in high school.
I have zero urge to make a cooking show, but "Let me check the footage to see if I added the salt" has revolutionized my thoughts on filming myself cooking anyway.
I was an apprentice baker for a year (it sucked lmao) but my manager used to do this all the time, went to check the security footage to see if he forgot something in the doughs (he usually forgot the yeast)
I start with all my ingredients on the right. As I use them I move them to the left. This way I know if I forgot to put something in! Home cooks version of Mise en place
The main difference between the NY-style bagel and Julia Child's bagel is that her version uses a enriched dough. The original NY-style bagel doesn't contain any fat, while Julia's bagel contains vegetable shortening. Which makes her bagels softer and cakier.
Thanks. I was wondering about the shortening, because that's definitely not traditional. I also have questions about the black pepper. But it wouldn't be a Julia recipe if it wasn't a bit non-traditional.
@@jelenaivkovic3231You forgot to say ...and the other were the Buggles cuz the Bangles didn't do Video Killed The Radio Star. But in either case....humor! It's free, you should try it.😅
Unrelated to the video itself, but I wanna say a big part of what I enjoy on this channel is actually the sponsorships. A lot of other channels may just take whatever comes their way regardless of relevance, but I have some massive respect to Jamie for always going for sponsors that not only fit with what he's doing (A cooking show) and being things he uses himself, but also being products that aren't sketchy like far more commonplace sponsors on the platform. It really shows it's what he believes in and I think that degree of honesty deserves so much credit
Thank you for doing it by hand because I cannot afford a KitchenAid machine so I’ve been watching you since your beginning and I thank you for thinking about all of us that were in your shoes when you started I appreciate you No joke.
I am so jealous you have made in cookware. I look into it and it’s really expensive even with your discount so but I love to cook, which is why I continue to watch your videos and I understand that you have not been posting as much but you’re a beautiful wife just having your child how great is that! I miss your videos, but I understand. Take care of her. I miss seeing Chrissy on screen! I had seven children so if she ever needs some advice or how to get through hit me up!
He's the reason I even DARED try to learn cooking again after prolonged illness that affected my memory. I can honestly say, that I can bake a little off my memory (breads and shortbread cookies) and my cooking has improved dramatically. I also try to do a mise en place, but I'm still much too scattered. I gather things as I need them, and once I use them, keep everything in one location, so I can see, what have I used. It's a bad habit... but I only started improving about six months ago... and can recall what I did in the morning, even yesterday, if I try hard!
Great show, Jamie! Note to viewers: If you have an electric oven, use a baking pan on the lower rack to put the "steaming" water into, don't just open the door and toss it into the bottom..... electrical element + water= no bueno!
Displaced New Yorker: I've been living in Italy for over 20 years and I miss bagels. A few years ago, I made them at home and was surprised how well they came out. I did use molasses instead of sugar in the boiling water. Give it a try next time. Love your show.
Since I'm not driving, I can safely tell you that I googled the correct pronunciation of bagel and it said BAY--gl, bay like bay leaves! It listened to my pronunciation and approved!!!
That's how me, my entire family, my neighbors, my friends, and their families(NY'ers) pronounce it. I didn't even know you could pronounce it differently, lmao. It's like a beagle but without the e.
I was just going to say this! The reason he says it weird is because he say “beg-gul” like he’s begging for a bagel lol. Instead of Bay-gul. Which is the correct pronunciation .
THANK YOU for making the version without a machine. ❤ I get very frustrated when professional cooks don't take into consideration that due to space / budget / lifestyle, not everyone has a Kitchen Aid. Ah, also, Silver Fox is lookin' gooood 😊
One of the reasons I love your show is that you hold Julia in as high regard as I do. I learned to cook from watching her do it. She was and is a culinary giant. But having said that I think its important to note that this recipe isn't hers. She presented and hosted the show "Baking with Julia" that the book is based on, and I'm sure she selected the different people who would bake each episode, but she didn't really have anything to do with the development or the writing of the recipes. Dorie Greenspan (a culinary phenom herself) adapted the show into the book and this particular recipe is from Lauren Groveman. (The NYTimes, by the way, just named it one of the 25 most important cookbooks in America.) By the way -- the hands-down best home-made New York bagel is from "Cook's Illustrated" published in 1997. You'll never find better. Love the show ... more Julia and Marcella! (And less of those ill-mannered prima donna bros.)
I just wanted to say, I've always been impressed by you acknowledging the sirens in the background. My mom always said a quick prayer when she heard them. She would tell us little ones "You know that sound isn't for something good"
Yes-- Bay (a broad inlet of the sea where the land curves inward)gle. No-- Bag (a container made of flexible material with an opening at the top, used for carrying things)gle. BAYgle not BAGgle.
I'm not in fashion, but sheer material is everywhere on red carpets and confidence is vital to making it stunning. Silver Fox looks amazing, everyone is very handsome and capable in this kitchen!
My family is from Buffalo, NY - right on the Canadian border. We all say bagel the way you do. And yes, when I moved away, I was mocked mercilessly about that until I learned the say it the “correct” way.
I’m from Central Illinois and my name is Carrie. When I moved to the Washington DC area, when I would introduce myself people would often say “oh! Carrie? Or Carrie?” I was a young professional and had no idea how to respond. I think I mostly just smiled and said, “Carrie.” Eventually, I started telling people “carry,” like the verb. I could never really hear the difference, but once, when I was trying unsuccessfully to answer the question, someone asked me if I spelled it with an A or E (Keri, etc.). Apparently, I pronounce my own name like other people think means I spell it wrong. Not at all helpful with your “bagel” issues, but I do always enjoy your adventures in pronunciation.
Have this cookbook and made these years ago. They turned out great! Btw it’s not actually Julia’s recipe, the book is guests on the shows recipes. Also there should be videos of this show somewhere, it was on PBS in the early 2000’s. The guest did the baking and Julia mostly stood there and helped.
Not me sitting here just 15 mins ago wondering if I could find a good recipe to make bagels since I've never made the before, then I open UA-cam and the first thing on my notifications is Jamie making bagels. Algorithm is algorithming today. And reading my mind. Spooky. Oh. And I think the way you say bagel makes sense and I'm here for it.
"You say bagel wrong!" "I've been to NY, Troy. I know what a baggle is" I know you don't say it like Britta from Community but that's what I thought of when I heard you say it 😅 Love the channel!
Entertaining as always... King Arthur flour has a great Pumpernickel bagel recipe I use... I make sure I have smoked salmon on hand when I make those... Pumpernickel bagel + smoked salmon + cream cheese + tomato, red onion, capers and dill = best sandwich ever!!!
the reason why it is potentially different is most recipies call for some amount of Barley Malt syrup in the boiling water, it changes the texture and flavor
I am Canadian and I definitely say Bayg-el. I’d say 90% of Canadians say it the same way I do. But there is a funny anomaly that seems to happen mostly in rural areas or small towns where some people say baggel. These people often also say melk instead of milk. I haven’t noticed Jamie pronouncing milk that way, but I’ll be listening for it now.
The reason why I am so addicted to your videos is because of your tenaciousness!!! you don’t give up and you’re true to your viewers. I hope that you can keep doing this for many years to come. One video week, I get that it’s not easy, is not enough. I can watch you all day long.
I work in banking; back in the late 90s, I was a branch manager and I had a teller who was always out of balance. When she was IN balance, she would celebrate in the same way as Jamie celebrating the Silver Fox. I think they both originated with Molly Shannon on SNL. Good times.
To all of you people with instant yeast - proof it at all times. I once wasted a ton of expensive ingredients and time for my German Stollen to not rise at all, because the yeast turned out to be dead. 😭
I've been making bagels for 40 years. Julia left out 2 ingredients. 1st, you always use malt syrup in New York bagels, never sugar. Also, instead of sugar in the boiling water you MUST use honey, 1/2 cup. These give the bagel the distinctive New York/Montreal flavor. Enjoy!
Thank you for the new Canadianism. My best friend is from Canada, I am from the US. We met during an allied Army thing and were pretty much the same person. We grew up about 30 miles from each other, but in different countries. We have a pretty much identical accent, we look a lot alike, hell, we're probably cousins from somewhere generations ago. So we have a blast when one of us pronounces something "wrong". I just called him and he says bagel like you say bagel. Thanks for a new thing to bicker about! (No seriously, thank you, we love bickering with each other, and god do we need the distraction from our doomering...) I bet the French are to do with this, somehow.
Ha, I've heard it from coworkers who live in Boston suburbs. Was funny to hear it here. Coming from Boston our family cemetery was in the Jewish part of the city and Uncle would always stop and we would get BAYgulls.
I honestly had no idea Canadians (or at least some of them) pronounce bagel like that.. I kept getting super distracted every time he said the word, to the point I had to stop the video and come to the comment section to make sure I wasn't the only one who thought it was odd. 😂 (And apparently I paused it right before he explained that he knows he says it funny, lol, oops.)
We also have to give credit to Montreal style bagels and Winnipeg cream cheese. We have a vibrant bagel community here in Edmonton. I think personally buying a good bagel is easier than making them. Thank you Bagel Barn in Edmonton for your amazing contribution. 🇨🇦🇨🇦
@@christinawilliamson1673bagel barn in Edmonton. maps.google.com/maps/place//data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x53a019b2fe6347ab:0x59caf2580d8c1fa5?entry=s&sa=X&ved=1t:8290&hl=en-ca&ictx=111
I love this and that you enjoyed yourself. I made some during Covid and they were awesome. But not a NYC bagel, though. I think the difference is that the bake shops use a more toothsome flour and they steam them, so they get more of a film on them. But I was surprised you didn’t mention those Montreal style bagels, which while good and pretty tasty they’re just too sweet and not as chubby! Bay gull, but hey I say Melk and Pellow
hint to make steam in the oven, place a shallow pan on a lower rack, and pre heat it. place the ice in the pan instead of throwing ice on bottom of even and elements.
After working as a baker for about a year, I can 100% say that freshly made bagels and almost every other baked goods are better freshly made and after a short rest time
I made these- they're from Lauren Groveman and THEY'RE THE MOST LABOR INTENSIVE THINGS I'VE EVER MADE! They were also the most delicious. But they took TWO DAYS! Two days to make! For 12 bagels! *the barley malt changes everything
Kitchenaid. Makes a sifter attachment that is amazing. We’ve had one for 3 years and it makes adding dry ingredients s😢much better- cleaner and more accurate
Whoever heard of a batch of TEN bagels? Everyone knows it should be by the dozen -- or, even better, a baker's dozen! What was Julia thinking? That said, they looked absolutely delicious, and a supercut of every time you said "bagel" would provide hours of pure joy.
I’ve been watching your journey with Julia Child for a few months now and I love your enthusiasm. My grandmother who passed away in 1991 loved JC and from what my dad tells me she had every available JC cookbook and never missed an episode of her show. My dad and I inherited my grandmothers love and passion for cooking and baking. Keep going. This is truly a wonderful and inspiring UA-cam series.
The water makes a difference, but not all. NY bagels aren't baked on metal sheets but burlap-covered wooden planks. That imparts some texture and flavor, too.
Hi Jamie :) just wanted to say that I'm so proud of you. I've been watching your channel for years and you've grown so much through the years both as a chef and as a UA-camr. Thanks for creating the ways that you do!
NY bagel places have some very specialized equipment, special flours and ingredients like malt syrup. These come pretty close, especially for a home kitchen
Dear Silver Fox, you are now even more magnificent than ever. Never be ashamed of you transparency. As for bagels, I was raised on Montreal-style bagels, which are very chewy and dense, not unlike the New York-style bagels I'm sure. Some commercial bagels in the supermarket are very light and fluffy, and I really don't like them as much as the artisinal ones you can get from local shops. I've never made bagels at home, but I made some German Pretzels before and the cooking method is very similar. I might try those Julia Child's one. Thanks for sharing the recipe.
Thank you so much for doing this recipe!! I have always wanted to make my own bagels. So after watching this , I made the dough minus the pepper , then put in the fridge overnight. Got up yesterday morning and made them! They are soooooooooo good , I used "Everything Bagel" Seasoning , I impressed myself! Again that you!!
I think its a north american dialect thing. I'm in no way an expert but I'm besties with an SLP and we geek out about dialect stuff. Please correct me if I'm wrong but the Canadian vowel shift and the northern cities vowel shift have a similar thing in how they treat the short a. Making for bag-el vs bay-gul
It's your Canadian coming out...B-eh-gul when it is BAY-gul. But it's ok neighbor :) A thought as to why the NY bagel might have a different crumb than yours is the "work time" the more you work a dough, the tougher it will probably be. I would imagine if your worked your dough longer then you could come a little bit closer to the NY style bagel.
I love making bagels. it is super fun, and the end product is so good! and I was fascinated watching you try to change the way you say bagel. I'm from the states but lived in England for many years, and I could understand that I was saying things differently, but couldn't HEAR that I was doing it. Appreciate seeing that happen to someone else!
I’m pretty sure bakery bagels are boiled in lye water, which is why they are hard to exactly recreate at home. Yours look very good though. I like homemade bagels just as well. Yum.
used to saying bagle like baggle as a bit after seeing that on community many years ago so i was very surprised to see you just saying it like this normally (i did not realise that it was just how some people pronounce it)
The bagels look great! I love chewy bagels, but making at home always comes with some concessions. Maybe adding some barley malt to get closer to the texture. But, these are delightful and it's wonderful to see you having fun with a recipe!! Well done!
See, I thought it was because you're from Canada, and they said BAG-ul while NYers tend to say BAY-gul. But your self-reflective nature makes you so lovable!
I've been searching for a bagel recipe that won't get a wrinkled top after the boiling bath. But she says not chewy, which is no bueno - gotta have the chew! Thanks for making them - love your demos. The scone recipe in this book has made me the hero of my family's holiday breakfasts! I do an orange cranberry version (use fresh cranberries, and top with orange glaze) and cheese and herb (grated cheddar & gruyere, at least 1/2 cup chopped fresh herbs, mostly chives). Grate cold butter into the flour mixture, then proceed as directed.
They came out very well, im impressed! As tips for future bagel endeavors, when Julia says kitchen towel, I'm fairly sure she means what Americans call Paper towel, and Brits call kitchen roll. If you prefer re-usable options, a plain woven tea towel or a pudding cloth (like a cheese cloth but thicker) works better than a terrycloth kitchen towel. Culinary suppliers usually have a big stack of white plain-woven tea towels for reasonable prices, as that's what's usually used in commercial kitchens. The commercial ones also make excellent pudding cloths, if you have an urge to make traditional clootie dumplings this Christmas.
Yes, bagels are fun to make! I use Amy Rosen’s recipe (but with bread flour) and they always turn out delicious and chewy. That recipe has no pepper but there is honey.
Hi I just wanted to share that I made my first batch of bagles last month using Babish's recipe! I've never been so proud of myself and they came out great! Discovering the shelf live of fresh baked goods was also a learning opportunity 😂 P.S.A: honey works just fine if you cant find malt syrup like me.
Authentic New York bagels really need to be boiled in water containing barley malt syrup. I also add a small amount to the dough. It causes fantastic browning/burnishing on the surface of the bagels without the need for an egg wash and also is what gives bagels their signature taste. There really is no substitute for it
I've been giving my Canadian wife a hard time about how she says bagel for the last 11 years. She says it just like you! Right before you started talking about it, I told my wife that you said bagel funny just like her! And then you go into your explanation!! 😂😂😂
You could have told me that was just the way that Canadians say 'bagel,' and I would have believed you. In fact, that was what I assumed. Also, when you said 'the towel with the flour' I immediately thought of Danny Kaye saying 'the chalice from the palace has the brew that is true.' It's a bit from The Inspector General, 1949.
Love it when you pop up. And Kristy & everyone’s right Jamie. You say bagel in a very weird way. You need to stress the A so you say baaagel. You make it sound like an E not an A. But we all still love you (ya big weirdo 😂😂😂) xxx
Technically speaking, that’s not a Julia Child recipe. Dorrie Greenspan is credited for the book and its recipes but I imagine Julia had a lot of input to the final product.
Those looked fantastic Jamie! This is one that literally made my mouth water. I couldn't hear it till you mentioned it but I hear you say Beh-gel as opposed to Bay-gel. At least you don't say BAG-el. 😆 Thanks for the wonderful videos.
You say bagel like a person from the South Shore of Massachusetts. I’ve never heard anyone else pronounce it that way, except in that very small corner of the world.
When you mix the water yeast and sugar in the small bowl you need to leave it for ten mins or so, until it starts to bubble, this denotes the yeast is alive and you don’t waste flour using yeast that is dying or dead. You knead until you can do a successful windowpane test, which denotes the gluten has reached the correct stage before resting. Wet your hands and stretch a small dough ball until you can see your hands through it with no holes developing.
You have much more energy than I. If I lived in NYC, I would just go to the Zabar's (the best bagels in the world). If haven't been there yet, go! You can thank me later.
Caraway is one of the best flavours I know. We make "snaps" (that's probably "schnapps" to you, vodka infused with good things) with it. You should try it with pickled herring.
I've made this recipe before. They were good. Thenn I made bagels from a monk recipe. I liked that better. It called for malt syrup. Now I use malt powder.
I say this with all the love; this video was, I think, unintentionally hilarious - more than usual 😂 whenever Jamie would say baa-gle I would imagine a sheep with its own cooking show teaching its horde how to make the perfect baaaa-gle 🐑🐑
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They say that what makes NYC bagels superior to all others, is the water.
I didn't know you had a partner 😅
Come sit on my lap you fucking cutie
@@derekdurham8829I'm okay with it as long as I can be in the middle
Here's an easy pronunciation guide for bagel: you've got the last syllable right, gle as in sea gull. But you're saying the first syllable as bag as in paper bag, it needs to be bae, as in the nickname you're wife calls the straight guy who got her pregnant. But it's not surprising, other UA-cam Canadians like Crowder have similar problems.
Just a quick message for the Silver Fox... the glass bowl really suits you. You look even more fabulous. Own it
In 1975, my mother gifted me a Sunbeam mixer with glass bowls. The mixer was not new. She received it as a wedding gift in 1949. She was given a new Kitchen Aid so I got the Sunbeam. The Sunbeam had glass bowls. The Sunbeam died in 1986. My mother got me a Kitchen Aid to replace it. I kept the glass bowls because the Kitchen Aid came with metal bowls that say Korea on the bottom. The glass bowls are not as big as Jamie’s new bowl but I still prefer them. I am still using my 1986 Kitchen Aid.
@@donnaburkett7854 My grandmother had a black and white Sunbeam Mixmaster stand mixer with white glass bowls that she had gotten as a wedding present in 1934, and which she used until she passed away in 1993. It went to my mother who then passed it on to one of my sisters when she passed away in 2012.
Introduced in 1930, the Sunbeam Mixmaster was the first mechanical mixer with two detachable beaters whose blades interlocked.
I'm 69, but as a teenager Seventeen magazine published a bagel recipe and instructions for making them long before they were available anywhere in Iowa. I clipped it from the magazine and it's the only bagel recipe I've ever used! turns out perfect every time. Thanks Seventeen!
Thanks for the recipe
Is it an easy recipe?
This is like that year when all the good reporting came out of Teen Vogue.
I think my mom made this recipe too! She’s told me about clipping a recipe from a magazine when she was in high school and trying it out when she was in high school.
Yes! I started making them as a young teen and they turned out the first time.they are chewy like bagel store ones.
I have zero urge to make a cooking show, but "Let me check the footage to see if I added the salt" has revolutionized my thoughts on filming myself cooking anyway.
"Mise en place" (measuring out all your ingredients in advance) can help you make sure you don't forget things
I was an apprentice baker for a year (it sucked lmao) but my manager used to do this all the time, went to check the security footage to see if he forgot something in the doughs (he usually forgot the yeast)
Even after years of cooking internally, Jamie will always be film maker not a cook… taste the damn dough
@@reginabillottibut he did have it measured, lol, just forgot to add. Sometimes you have something in front of you and yet forget ;)
I start with all my ingredients on the right. As I use them I move them to the left. This way I know if I forgot to put something in! Home cooks version of Mise en place
The main difference between the NY-style bagel and Julia Child's bagel is that her version uses a enriched dough. The original NY-style bagel doesn't contain any fat, while Julia's bagel contains vegetable shortening. Which makes her bagels softer and cakier.
Thanks. I was wondering about the shortening, because that's definitely not traditional. I also have questions about the black pepper. But it wouldn't be a Julia recipe if it wasn't a bit non-traditional.
My favorite Baggles song is "Walk Like An Egyptian".
😅😅😅
Mine is "Video Killed The Radio Star".
@@jelenaivkovic3231 did you lose your hair when the joke went over your head?
@@jelenaivkovic3231You forgot to say ...and the other were the Buggles cuz the Bangles didn't do Video Killed The Radio Star. But in either case....humor! It's free, you should try it.😅
@@jelenaivkovic3231 yes, i know. IT WAS A JOKE.
The Silver Fox leap with your arms right above and mirroring the letter V....10/10, no notes! I'll never get tired of it. NEVER!
I love when he crouches down to jump up again. It’s hilarious.
Never😂😂😂❤❤
I always join him (in voice only)
I will.
Unrelated to the video itself, but I wanna say a big part of what I enjoy on this channel is actually the sponsorships. A lot of other channels may just take whatever comes their way regardless of relevance, but I have some massive respect to Jamie for always going for sponsors that not only fit with what he's doing (A cooking show) and being things he uses himself, but also being products that aren't sketchy like far more commonplace sponsors on the platform. It really shows it's what he believes in and I think that degree of honesty deserves so much credit
Nice try, Made In.
Eh, made in sells very nice pans, and they seem like a good sponsor for the show.
Thank you for doing it by hand because I cannot afford a KitchenAid machine so I’ve been watching you since your beginning and I thank you for thinking about all of us that were in your shoes when you started I appreciate you No joke.
I am so jealous you have made in cookware. I look into it and it’s really expensive even with your discount so but I love to cook, which is why I continue to watch your videos and I understand that you have not been posting as much but you’re a beautiful wife just having your child how great is that! I miss your videos, but I understand. Take care of her. I miss seeing Chrissy on screen! I had seven children so if she ever needs some advice or how to get through hit me up!
Yes, absolutely ❤
I feel like a lot of small batch breads can be made by hand. you just need really strong arms and shoulders. 😅
He's the reason I even DARED try to learn cooking again after prolonged illness that affected my memory. I can honestly say, that I can bake a little off my memory (breads and shortbread cookies) and my cooking has improved dramatically. I also try to do a mise en place, but I'm still much too scattered. I gather things as I need them, and once I use them, keep everything in one location, so I can see, what have I used. It's a bad habit... but I only started improving about six months ago... and can recall what I did in the morning, even yesterday, if I try hard!
Great show, Jamie! Note to viewers: If you have an electric oven, use a baking pan on the lower rack to put the "steaming" water into, don't just open the door and toss it into the bottom..... electrical element + water= no bueno!
Clearly the glass bowl is a much-deserved upgrade. 😏 Ya look great, Silver Fox.
I second that!
JAMIE!!! YOU DID SO WELL TO REMEMBER THE STEAM ELEMENT ON THE BAGELS!!!! I use steam with all my bread projects and it really makes a difference!
Sunday with Jamie...best part of the week.
Amen to that!
It’s often the highlight of my weekend…
Seriously! Sundays are for football and Anti-Chef 😂
Displaced New Yorker: I've been living in Italy for over 20 years and I miss bagels. A few years ago, I made them at home and was surprised how well they came out. I did use molasses instead of sugar in the boiling water. Give it a try next time.
Love your show.
I use brown sugar, works too.
I also think barley malt syrup added to the dough helps with the taste.
I used honey because I can't find barley malt syrup where I live
@ArianAlbert I've used honey too...darkest gives the best taste!
Since I'm not driving, I can safely tell you that I googled the correct pronunciation of bagel and it said BAY--gl, bay like bay leaves! It listened to my pronunciation and approved!!!
That's how me, my entire family, my neighbors, my friends, and their families(NY'ers) pronounce it. I didn't even know you could pronounce it differently, lmao. It's like a beagle but without the e.
Like there are gulls in the bay who will eat your "bay-gulls". :]
Yes, long aaa sound. Like Hey or Bay (Old Bay Seasoning) not the eh sound like meh or beg.
Think of Jerry Lewis saying it. Hey Laaaadyyy! Have a Baaaaaagel! Riboflavins!
I was just going to say this! The reason he says it weird is because he say “beg-gul” like he’s begging for a bagel lol. Instead of Bay-gul. Which is the correct pronunciation .
THANK YOU for making the version without a machine. ❤ I get very frustrated when professional cooks don't take into consideration that due to space / budget / lifestyle, not everyone has a Kitchen Aid. Ah, also, Silver Fox is lookin' gooood 😊
why did i tell the silver fox he looks so good out loud when you told us to like im watching an episode of dora or something
One of the reasons I love your show is that you hold Julia in as high regard as I do. I learned to cook from watching her do it. She was and is a culinary giant.
But having said that I think its important to note that this recipe isn't hers. She presented and hosted the show "Baking with Julia" that the book is based on, and I'm sure she selected the different people who would bake each episode, but she didn't really have anything to do with the development or the writing of the recipes.
Dorie Greenspan (a culinary phenom herself) adapted the show into the book and this particular recipe is from Lauren Groveman. (The NYTimes, by the way, just named it one of the 25 most important cookbooks in America.)
By the way -- the hands-down best home-made New York bagel is from "Cook's Illustrated" published in 1997. You'll never find better.
Love the show ... more Julia and Marcella! (And less of those ill-mannered prima donna bros.)
I just wanted to say, I've always been impressed by you acknowledging the sirens in the background. My mom always said a quick prayer when she heard them. She would tell us little ones "You know that sound isn't for something good"
Yes-- Bay (a broad inlet of the sea where the land curves inward)gle. No-- Bag (a container made of flexible material with an opening at the top, used for carrying things)gle. BAYgle not BAGgle.
Yeah but he's saying neither of those. He's a behgle man
NY bagels often have malt syrup and vital wheat gluten in them.
yep
I'm not in fashion, but sheer material is everywhere on red carpets and confidence is vital to making it stunning. Silver Fox looks amazing, everyone is very handsome and capable in this kitchen!
My family is from Buffalo, NY - right on the Canadian border. We all say bagel the way you do. And yes, when I moved away, I was mocked mercilessly about that until I learned the say it the “correct” way.
I’m from Central Illinois and my name is Carrie. When I moved to the Washington DC area, when I would introduce myself people would often say “oh! Carrie? Or Carrie?” I was a young professional and had no idea how to respond. I think I mostly just smiled and said, “Carrie.” Eventually, I started telling people “carry,” like the verb. I could never really hear the difference, but once, when I was trying unsuccessfully to answer the question, someone asked me if I spelled it with an A or E (Keri, etc.). Apparently, I pronounce my own name like other people think means I spell it wrong.
Not at all helpful with your “bagel” issues, but I do always enjoy your adventures in pronunciation.
Have this cookbook and made these years ago. They turned out great! Btw it’s not actually Julia’s recipe, the book is guests on the shows recipes. Also there should be videos of this show somewhere, it was on PBS in the early 2000’s. The guest did the baking and Julia mostly stood there and helped.
Not me sitting here just 15 mins ago wondering if I could find a good recipe to make bagels since I've never made the before, then I open UA-cam and the first thing on my notifications is Jamie making bagels. Algorithm is algorithming today. And reading my mind. Spooky. Oh. And I think the way you say bagel makes sense and I'm here for it.
"You say bagel wrong!"
"I've been to NY, Troy. I know what a baggle is"
I know you don't say it like Britta from Community but that's what I thought of when I heard you say it 😅
Love the channel!
That's exactly what I thought of too! He doesn't say it exactly like her, but a few times.. it was really close, lol. 😂
I had to stop the video to go watch S01E17 just to confirm how much Jamie really Britta'd the baggle pronunciation.
Britta says bagel weird!
Yeah, I also thought of that, so I figured I wouldn't be the only one so I actually searched comments for my fellow Community fans.
How you pronounce Bagel?
... bAgl
You're the worst
Entertaining as always... King Arthur flour has a great Pumpernickel bagel recipe I use... I make sure I have smoked salmon on hand when I make those... Pumpernickel bagel + smoked salmon + cream cheese + tomato, red onion, capers and dill = best sandwich ever!!!
the reason why it is potentially different is most recipies call for some amount of Barley Malt syrup in the boiling water, it changes the texture and flavor
It’s ok Jamie, you’re Canadian & that’s how you say it there. Same with “out, about, etc.” ❤😂
Bay-gulls vs Bag-els.
I am Canadian and I definitely say Bayg-el. I’d say 90% of Canadians say it the same way I do. But there is a funny anomaly that seems to happen mostly in rural areas or small towns where some people say baggel. These people often also say melk instead of milk. I haven’t noticed Jamie pronouncing milk that way, but I’ll be listening for it now.
He’s a southern ontario boy.
The reason why I am so addicted to your videos is because of your tenaciousness!!! you don’t give up and you’re true to your viewers. I hope that you can keep doing this for many years to come. One video week, I get that it’s not easy, is not enough. I can watch you all day long.
Jamie says bagel like Britta and I love it
Jamie lives in New York: he knows what a baggle is.
I work in banking; back in the late 90s, I was a branch manager and I had a teller who was always out of balance. When she was IN balance, she would celebrate in the same way as Jamie celebrating the Silver Fox. I think they both originated with Molly Shannon on SNL. Good times.
To all of you people with instant yeast - proof it at all times. I once wasted a ton of expensive ingredients and time for my German Stollen to not rise at all, because the yeast turned out to be dead. 😭
*proof 😊
dead yeast 😢🤗
@@LIVEINPEACE2023you live and you learn
I've been making bagels for 40 years. Julia left out 2 ingredients. 1st, you always use malt syrup in New York bagels, never sugar. Also, instead of sugar in the boiling water you MUST use honey, 1/2 cup. These give the bagel the distinctive New York/Montreal flavor. Enjoy!
Thank you for the new Canadianism. My best friend is from Canada, I am from the US. We met during an allied Army thing and were pretty much the same person. We grew up about 30 miles from each other, but in different countries. We have a pretty much identical accent, we look a lot alike, hell, we're probably cousins from somewhere generations ago. So we have a blast when one of us pronounces something "wrong". I just called him and he says bagel like you say bagel. Thanks for a new thing to bicker about! (No seriously, thank you, we love bickering with each other, and god do we need the distraction from our doomering...) I bet the French are to do with this, somehow.
Love it. Not the way I have ever heard bagel pronounced but I like it. If everyone said it the same way it would be boring. Stay the way you are
Take a maple syrup shot every time you hear the Canadian “bagel” and you’ll get American diabetes
It’s truuuuuu
Ha, I've heard it from coworkers who live in Boston suburbs. Was funny to hear it here. Coming from Boston our family cemetery was in the Jewish
part of the city and Uncle would always stop and we would get BAYgulls.
I honestly had no idea Canadians (or at least some of them) pronounce bagel like that.. I kept getting super distracted every time he said the word, to the point I had to stop the video and come to the comment section to make sure I wasn't the only one who thought it was odd. 😂 (And apparently I paused it right before he explained that he knows he says it funny, lol, oops.)
@@LadyBeyondTheWall same! 👋
😂😂😂😂😂
In Czechia, we pair caraway with salt crystals.
I thought you might be Canadian, but this confirms it lol
Did he park the Audi in the garage after he made the bagels? Lol 😆
We also have to give credit to Montreal style bagels and Winnipeg cream cheese. We have a vibrant bagel community here in Edmonton. I think personally buying a good bagel is easier than making them. Thank you Bagel Barn in Edmonton for your amazing contribution. 🇨🇦🇨🇦
There is nothing like a Winnipeg bagel with cream cheese. I think it's the water.
Oh I've never heard of bagel barn. Will check them out. Sometimes nice to get fresh ones rather than shipped in ones from st vital
@@christinawilliamson1673bagel barn in Edmonton. maps.google.com/maps/place//data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x53a019b2fe6347ab:0x59caf2580d8c1fa5?entry=s&sa=X&ved=1t:8290&hl=en-ca&ictx=111
I love this and that you enjoyed yourself. I made some during Covid and they were awesome. But not a NYC bagel, though. I think the difference is that the bake shops use a more toothsome flour and they steam them, so they get more of a film on them. But I was surprised you didn’t mention those Montreal style bagels, which while good and pretty tasty they’re just too sweet and not as chubby! Bay gull, but hey I say Melk and Pellow
hint to make steam in the oven, place a shallow pan on a lower rack, and pre heat it. place the ice in the pan instead of throwing ice on bottom of even and elements.
After working as a baker for about a year, I can 100% say that freshly made bagels and almost every other baked goods are better freshly made and after a short rest time
I made these- they're from Lauren Groveman and THEY'RE THE MOST LABOR INTENSIVE THINGS I'VE EVER MADE! They were also the most delicious. But they took TWO DAYS! Two days to make! For 12 bagels!
*the barley malt changes everything
Hey Jamie. When mixing dough like that use the handle of the wooden spoon instead of the spoon part. It’s easier to mix and also easier to clean.
Kitchenaid. Makes a sifter attachment that is amazing. We’ve had one for 3 years and it makes adding dry ingredients s😢much better- cleaner and more accurate
Whoever heard of a batch of TEN bagels? Everyone knows it should be by the dozen -- or, even better, a baker's dozen! What was Julia thinking?
That said, they looked absolutely delicious, and a supercut of every time you said "bagel" would provide hours of pure joy.
I’ve been watching your journey with Julia Child for a few months now and I love your enthusiasm. My grandmother who passed away in 1991 loved JC and from what my dad tells me she had every available JC cookbook and never missed an episode of her show. My dad and I inherited my grandmothers love and passion for cooking and baking. Keep going. This is truly a wonderful and inspiring UA-cam series.
Silver fox looks amazing! I have always wanted a clear bowl.
Im feeling inspired. After T-Day, this is on the agenda. Thank you !
The water makes a difference, but not all. NY bagels aren't baked on metal sheets but burlap-covered wooden planks. That imparts some texture and flavor, too.
Hi Jamie :) just wanted to say that I'm so proud of you. I've been watching your channel for years and you've grown so much through the years both as a chef and as a UA-camr. Thanks for creating the ways that you do!
NY bagel places have some very specialized equipment, special flours and ingredients like malt syrup. These come pretty close, especially for a home kitchen
Dear Silver Fox, you are now even more magnificent than ever. Never be ashamed of you transparency.
As for bagels, I was raised on Montreal-style bagels, which are very chewy and dense, not unlike the New York-style bagels I'm sure. Some commercial bagels in the supermarket are very light and fluffy, and I really don't like them as much as the artisinal ones you can get from local shops. I've never made bagels at home, but I made some German Pretzels before and the cooking method is very similar. I might try those Julia Child's one. Thanks for sharing the recipe.
Looks like so much fun. I have to do this next weekend. Thanks for the lesson
Great video as always :) And it was a pleasure to see you have fun with the recipe :)
0:04 You say “bagel” funny! Hahahahahaa! You say bagel the way Britta from the show Community says it. Heheheheeee…😂😂😂
Sweet, I've been considering trying to bake/make bagels - this video is pushing me one step closer to trying it
The silver fox looks great in the new upgrade! Yay!
Resident of Wisconsin here. I say bagel just like you, and a linguist told me it is due to the historical German immigrants in this area.
Thanks, Jaime! Looking good, Silver Fox!
Thank you so much for doing this recipe!! I have always wanted to make my own bagels. So after watching this , I made the dough minus the pepper , then put in the fridge overnight. Got up yesterday morning and made them! They are soooooooooo good , I used "Everything Bagel" Seasoning , I impressed myself! Again that you!!
you're the second canadian i've heard pronounce bagel like that. i guess it's just a canada thing
It’s not 😂
It's definitely a canada thing
I think its a north american dialect thing. I'm in no way an expert but I'm besties with an SLP and we geek out about dialect stuff. Please correct me if I'm wrong but the Canadian vowel shift and the northern cities vowel shift have a similar thing in how they treat the short a. Making for bag-el vs bay-gul
Oh it’s not. Montrealer here and we all say “bay-gel”. This is the first time I’ve ever heard anyone say “baggle!” Maybe it’s an Ontario thing.
First thing I noticed at the beginning of the video. 😂
I've never considered making bagels but when you said it's fun, that sold me.
It's your Canadian coming out...B-eh-gul when it is BAY-gul. But it's ok neighbor :) A thought as to why the NY bagel might have a different crumb than yours is the "work time" the more you work a dough, the tougher it will probably be. I would imagine if your worked your dough longer then you could come a little bit closer to the NY style bagel.
Silver Fox, you look MAGNIFICENT! You are the star every time you make an appearance. And your glass bowl just shows you at your best! 💕
I love making bagels. it is super fun, and the end product is so good! and I was fascinated watching you try to change the way you say bagel. I'm from the states but lived in England for many years, and I could understand that I was saying things differently, but couldn't HEAR that I was doing it. Appreciate seeing that happen to someone else!
I’m pretty sure bakery bagels are boiled in lye water, which is why they are hard to exactly recreate at home. Yours look very good though. I like homemade bagels just as well. Yum.
used to saying bagle like baggle as a bit after seeing that on community many years ago so i was very surprised to see you just saying it like this normally (i did not realise that it was just how some people pronounce it)
The bagels look great! I love chewy bagels, but making at home always comes with some concessions. Maybe adding some barley malt to get closer to the texture. But, these are delightful and it's wonderful to see you having fun with a recipe!! Well done!
Ah, my son and I thought it was that a lot of bakeries use a levain but you’re right. It’s the barley malt.
See, I thought it was because you're from Canada, and they said BAG-ul while NYers tend to say BAY-gul. But your self-reflective nature makes you so lovable!
I've been searching for a bagel recipe that won't get a wrinkled top after the boiling bath. But she says not chewy, which is no bueno - gotta have the chew! Thanks for making them - love your demos.
The scone recipe in this book has made me the hero of my family's holiday breakfasts! I do an orange cranberry version (use fresh cranberries, and top with orange glaze) and cheese and herb (grated cheddar & gruyere, at least 1/2 cup chopped fresh herbs, mostly chives). Grate cold butter into the flour mixture, then proceed as directed.
They came out very well, im impressed! As tips for future bagel endeavors, when Julia says kitchen towel, I'm fairly sure she means what Americans call Paper towel, and Brits call kitchen roll. If you prefer re-usable options, a plain woven tea towel or a pudding cloth (like a cheese cloth but thicker) works better than a terrycloth kitchen towel. Culinary suppliers usually have a big stack of white plain-woven tea towels for reasonable prices, as that's what's usually used in commercial kitchens. The commercial ones also make excellent pudding cloths, if you have an urge to make traditional clootie dumplings this Christmas.
Yes, bagels are fun to make! I use Amy Rosen’s recipe (but with bread flour) and they always turn out delicious and chewy. That recipe has no pepper but there is honey.
@1:24, I am also now aware of behggles.
Hi I just wanted to share that I made my first batch of bagles last month using Babish's recipe! I've never been so proud of myself and they came out great! Discovering the shelf live of fresh baked goods was also a learning opportunity 😂
P.S.A: honey works just fine if you cant find malt syrup like me.
Authentic New York bagels really need to be boiled in water containing barley malt syrup. I also add a small amount to the dough. It causes fantastic browning/burnishing on the surface of the bagels without the need for an egg wash and also is what gives bagels their signature taste. There really is no substitute for it
I’m absolutely crying at Jamie using actual towels when the recipe asks for ‘kitchen towels’ 😂😂😂
I've been giving my Canadian wife a hard time about how she says bagel for the last 11 years. She says it just like you! Right before you started talking about it, I told my wife that you said bagel funny just like her! And then you go into your explanation!! 😂😂😂
Now can you say "pasta" "garage" and "mom"?
It is Canadian! Dont feel bad Jamie! Its your Ontario roots.
You could have told me that was just the way that Canadians say 'bagel,' and I would have believed you. In fact, that was what I assumed. Also, when you said 'the towel with the flour' I immediately thought of Danny Kaye saying 'the chalice from the palace has the brew that is true.' It's a bit from The Inspector General, 1949.
Wow! I don't think I would have the nerve to make bagels -They are so iconic (and I'm lousy with yeast)... You da man!!
you can get that treated, you know.
@@litsci1877 🤣 LMAO!
Love it when you pop up. And Kristy & everyone’s right Jamie. You say bagel in a very weird way. You need to stress the A so you say baaagel. You make it sound like an E not an A. But we all still love you (ya big weirdo 😂😂😂) xxx
Technically speaking, that’s not a Julia Child recipe. Dorrie Greenspan is credited for the book and its recipes but I imagine Julia had a lot of input to the final product.
Those looked fantastic Jamie! This is one that literally made my mouth water. I couldn't hear it till you mentioned it but I hear you say Beh-gel as opposed to Bay-gel. At least you don't say BAG-el. 😆 Thanks for the wonderful videos.
You and I say it fine. My husband hates how I say Bag or Bagel, I’ve gotten self conscious about it but it’s just from where we grew up! ❤
I made bagels the other day with flour, baking powder and Greek yogurt. They were really good and easy
Britta from Community also called them baggles. She lived in New York.
You say bagel like a person from the South Shore of Massachusetts. I’ve never heard anyone else pronounce it that way, except in that very small corner of the world.
When you mix the water yeast and sugar in the small bowl you need to leave it for ten mins or so, until it starts to bubble, this denotes the yeast is alive and you don’t waste flour using yeast that is dying or dead. You knead until you can do a successful windowpane test, which denotes the gluten has reached the correct stage before resting. Wet your hands and stretch a small dough ball until you can see your hands through it with no holes developing.
You have much more energy than I. If I lived in NYC, I would just go to the Zabar's (the best bagels in the world). If haven't been there yet, go! You can thank me later.
The silver Fox intro dance was priceless lol 😂
The steam from the ice cubes in the oven is what gives the bagel The texture on the outside.
I LOVE the glass bowl on the silver fox!
Caraway is one of the best flavours I know. We make "snaps" (that's probably "schnapps" to you, vodka infused with good things) with it. You should try it with pickled herring.
Omg! He says bagel like Britta from Community hahahahha
I've made this recipe before. They were good. Thenn I made bagels from a monk recipe. I liked that better. It called for malt syrup. Now I use malt powder.
I say this with all the love; this video was, I think, unintentionally hilarious - more than usual 😂 whenever Jamie would say baa-gle I would imagine a sheep with its own cooking show teaching its horde how to make the perfect baaaa-gle 🐑🐑
:o When did we renovate the kitchen!! It looks so good, nice and open!
You really Britta'd the pronunciation of "bagel"!!! Love the episode as usual. And now I want a bagel.
I came here specifically to see if anyone else was thinking this.
I’m so happy you pointed that out, because the first time you said bagel I was like, “what now?” 😂