Working with military equipment, I'm starting to believe "machine spirits" are an actual thing. Literally yelling or kindly singing to certain things will make them spontaneously work or break drpending on its 'mood'. It's bloody weird man.
Yep... The (not that cheap and rather new and well sounding) radio in my mother's kitchen is that kind of moody. The on/off switch is kinda useless since pressing it always messes with the chanal (it is also the button to tune in channels by turning it) so the radio has to be switched on and off by remote. And that sometimes simply wouldn't work. Sometimes it is yelling at it to finally turn on or desperately pleading or threatening to pull the plug that encourages this piece of sound emitting technology to do it's job.
When i was in Electrician tech school, the teacher joked about the "magic smoke" inside machines that must _never_ be let out lest it cease to function
aleidius192 Small person here. Those bastard bugs will pay one day mark my words. We shortarses have long memories. Remember Dwarven grudges. We're fattening them up in advance. They will be too fat to fight back when the real fight comes.
I'd argue the opposite a smaller take with an equal gun is always better. There's a reason the idea of the super heavy tank died out in favor of the MBT. A smaller target is harder to hit. It's why I find the super super heavy tanks of 40k to be absurd. It's just simple physics that it's easier to make a cannon to pierce armor than it is to make armor stop it. Ergo the superior armor is to not get hit in the first place.
Squats aren't canon, anyone who disagrees needs to have a few inquisitors visit their home. Is the inquisition gone? Good, squats are actually a fun part of the lore that need to be brought back (BUT NOT LIKE GATHERING STORM OR THE MARY SUE MARINES)Their massive vehicles would be great on table top and I can make an army of crusading midgets.
You see what happened was that guilliman found them all sitting in the waiting room on terra, hoping for a hearing on whether or not they can get back to fighting as the mechanicum had pulled off a class action lawsuit because they were enhancing tech. They asked guilliman if he could pull some strings and so he decided that if they were able to lose some weight and fit into some power armor he would sneak them into the war as "special" marines. And its because they are so good at tech upgrades that they have better bolters, plasma guns and such. Primaris explained lol
Each and every squat has a napoleonic complex, take a look at their massive overcompensating vehicles. The leviathan is what happens when a battle tank fucks an imperator titan, it's just stupidly armored and armed which is why I need several of them.
But Arch, surely you are aware of the ancient texts heralding the glorious return of the noble Squats. It references directly the angry celibate brides being reforged in the God Emperor's blessed high impact polystyrene in addition to the hawk of thunder. This in turn was to coincide with a new glorious golden age for the empire of man, lead by a noble hero who realized his glorious oddesy and embarked upon it. In all seriousness though. Halfling snipers and Ogre shock troops have been a thing for a long time. Surely some mobile artillery bikers of shorter stature and some ridiculously armored and armed stunty gits holding the lines would fit right into the Imperial guard regiments. Their guns have guns! What commisar would turn that down?
I think in terms of story, we could see Squats return any time with refugees of the Homeworlds randomly fleeing from the CIcatrix Maledictum that now spans through the galactic core where they used to reside. Just say that the Imperium had false information and the Squats held out the Tyranids unit the Cicatrix swept the bugs away and the Squats cobbled mining fleets together that made a run through to real space. Such a faction would propably be a front line of tough [yet not armoured] miner militia with shotguns with a couple types of elites to reinforce the front and unique vehicles in form of hellbores that are 50% above ground and can break through enemy formations, smaller landtrains that work like baneblades a bit and have technology be a rule: for evry unit the player rolls a modifications dice at the begging of the battle to determine if and how the Squat machinery was tinkered with. I think that would be a quite intresting faction to play with...
They really should just have them as a unit for the IG. Squat artillery support, squat bikers rushing around the enemy to pick off something that is pissing you off, squat manned baneblades! Just toss them in as a slight variant for standard IG.
You may want to go check out One Page Rules, they have dwarves in spess as a playable faction. You may even be able to take a revenge on Tyrani... ehm, i meant Alien Hives.
oh i see what you did there. very funny. tell me did you like that a comment you posted a year ago would ever be found again? its cool huh, the fact that you're comment is part of history and people like me can find them again in the future. like what are the chances of somone like me typeing a massive repley to you're joke.
I have never wanted a Squat army more in my life. Their lore is actually pretty badass with a lot of potential for a new range from gw. Thank you for this video!
Cure4Living wasnt aware that they had any AI, thought it was all just well programmed drones and computers, not things that can think or act independently?
High Confessor Nicodemus I think that's debatable. The Tau do have this one computer on a highly advanced stealth suit that's advanced enough that the pilots...talk to it.
tankbuster626 i can talk to my phone and it talks back, that doesnt mean it is AI. You could very well be right though, i haven't read any of the tau lore since Shadowsun became their poster-girl. (None of my friends are playing tau so i just havent had a chance to sit down with any tau codices)
I know of at least one AI based off of a tau brain as well so if all their higher AI are based off that it's possible that's how they avoided the robot murder fucking
the real story is pretty sad. Around 1988, someone joined the upper management of GW as an editor and he had a total hatred of "squats" in the 40K universe. He decided to just drop them from the canon. I watched him rant on the subject at several Cons at Q&A sessions about how GW was getting rid of many of the minor races from rogue trader, since they had to decide just what they were going to concentrate on in the Miniature lines. This coincided with the change over from lead to alloy tin
John Smith I don't think it was all on one guy. I've seen quotes from a few gw people that boil down to "We just didn't care for them,so got rid of them".
@@bigrabii9470 According to Jervis Johnson, it was pretty normal in 2nd Edition for a Codex to be headed up by someone who had a real passion for that faction. And, well, nobody had that much of a passion for the Squats, so their Codex didn't get done.
The primaris make a lot of sense if you say the squats went in to hiding by order of a Inquisitior. They pretend to be eaten and remove all life from the surface. Hide under ground so it looks like a dead world. Shield it from scans with technology. They hide from the mechanicum. They hide crawl and advance the technology and use the world's as labs, testing and training grounds. They are fully self-contained and have huge amount of resources. All they need is geenseed shipped in. This may be stupid but it's better then what we currently got with it happing right under the mechanicum nose.
Squats are my first (& favorite) 40k army making custom models from Space Marine & Ironbreaker parts. I also have Ratlings & Ogyrans in my army too. Always wanted an Abhuman Imperial Guard army since Dawn of War & wanting to play the table top war game.
Jeremy Sanders i use some Kharadron and Dawrf blood bowl teams and have been giving them spare weapons from the Necromunda gangs. Gonna use them as acolyte hybrids. Squats are mentioned multiple times in the new Necromunda lore.
Too bad there are no plans for this. If you want to play space dwarfs or space skaven only option is Mantics Deadzone/Warpath which is kinda 40k-ish but without the 30 years of lore. Models look quite nice though.
They _really_ don't. I'd personally like 40k to remain its own entity and not go back to being "WFB IN _SPAAACE_". Adding Squats and... ugh... "Space Skaven" sounds like it'd take 40k from being what it is now and just turn it into a damned cartoon.
Blissfully adblocked since 2005-2006 and didn't even know there were ads running on online vids until about 2013 when I visited YT on someone elses computer.
The difference between videos that Arch _wants_ to do and videos that Arch is like “Yeah sure that’ll keep them from rioting for a few days” is rather incredible.
I think they put the Squats on bikes because they look like biker gangs on them. And I can't get over the idea that the Squats in exo-armor look like Easter eggs...with beards.
He forgot the fact that the squats beat back the great crusade, it was MK3 or MK4 power armor that was built JUST to fight the squats because the space marines where getting slaughtered in the tunnel fighting, yeah that’s how powerful they where, the could beat the imperium at the height of their power.
Ah, I was just about to comment on this, myself. Yes, old canon is that Mk III "Iron" armor was redesigned from Mk II with far heavier frontal plating to be better suited to fighting in the tight confines of Squat strongholds. Take this +1, good sir, for your knowledge of the Squats forcing the Imperium to adapt.
If the Tyranids made short work of the Squats, what happened to the Chaos Dwarves? They just happen to be visiting? Shouldn't there be a bunch of worlds infested with orcs, Tyranids, and Demons in the core?
Next Release: The Squats return from near the galactic core having been in hiding for all this time. Now they are beseeching the Empire to aid them in the battle with mutant chaos ratmen that they can no longer battle alone! *Tell me you wouldn't buy into this*
Mr.13 yes, because recycling the dwarfs vs skaven plot and puting it in space is FUCKING STUPID! if GW think bringing back space dwarfs is to silly then there is no way in hell that they will bring back the old school hrud.
Honestly the Skaven with their warp based tech and existing tactical niche would fit rather well in the 40k setting. And considering that beast-man abhumans still exist in the lore it wouldn't be that hard to introduce them via something like Necrodmuna, or as you suggested just letting the hurd be 40k Skaven. But that's neither here nor there; ultimately I'm pointing out that they lazily wrote the squats out of the setting, and have whenever the whim struck them hamfistedly added anything they felt would drive sales regardless of lore contradictions or lazy application. IE: Primarius Marines.
The story behind the Squats' rather unwise trust of the Orks is actually explained in Waaargh Da Orks: the dominant Warlord of that sector of the galaxy, one Nazgand Spleenrippa, was, at the time, heavily engaged in war against the Eldar when "da stunty gitz told us dey would pay tribute and stuff to us provided we would do da same ter dem. Dey call dis 'Trade'." Although most of the Orks thought this was kinda stupid, Nazgand saw the value of getting well-made guns and power-armour while simultaneously keeping his flank secured, and agreed to the deal. When Nazgand died, he was succeeded as Warlord by a much more traditionalist Ork named Gatrog the Flayer, who was sitting in his throne-room one day, looking at his star map, and noticed that there was a little bit that wasn't green. Predictably enough, Gatrog decided to do something about that, and to zog with whatever Nazgand had agreed to. Being dead sneaky, Gatrog decided to bypass the Squat fortification by hiding his Boyz aboard Nazgand's trade ships, and, once they had safely landed, jump out and shoot all the stunty skum dead, dakka dakka dakka! The stunties started bleating about treachery and betrayal and all that stuff, just because they'd suffered a good duffin', and have pretty much been trying to get back at the Orks ever since.
Nowadays rouge trader feels like some strange bazaaro mirror world of 40k. its so fun learning about the old lore because of how weird it is. Some of its good, a lot of its bad but all of its weird
The scary thing is most of the Rogue Trader old lore for the Orks is, according to GW/Black Library, still canon until new lore comes along that explicitly contradicts it. Which considering GW barely ever focuses on Ork lore (Beast Arises not withstanding) compared to everyone else is probably a good thing.
I got a version of Rogue Trader that was published by Cubicle 7 through one of Humble Bundle's recent offers; how different is that version of Rogue Trader from the original Rogue Trader?
There is also in something in the lore that says the squats are planning to take back there homewords. The planning and execution of this would be interesting to read about. Also a squat update would do them some good.
man i was just thinking, i wish there was a nice long video i could listen too about a topic i like as i do other tasks, good olde Arch delivers......again!
"...In before someone cuts THAT out of context and claims it's my stance on BLACK people..." Your delivery of that line made it a really bad moment to take a drink of my coffee, Arch. Perfect summarization of modern internet boogieman'ing and I salute your sense of humor.
I'd say they would still use battletrains to fight. However those long trains that put guns on guns didn't survive the test of times. Those smaller trains, that put armor on top of armor however did survive. "...and these are just a few of the reasons Battletrains have never and will never work." "Well, someone forgot to tell our squats. They've already broken through their lines. Should we tell them to stop the train?" "WHAT?" *Behind enemy lines inside what could be described as a propelled massive block of armor the battletrain 'pain train' rolles toward a certain heretic* "Ye want ta take our metal ye bastard? Oh ye're gonna get ye metal. Ye're going te get all the metal, right ta the face ye bastard." We've close combat already. Several hundret tons of propelled armor should make an impact. Not that easy to stop either, even for demons. Well, it might be depending on believe. But I believe in this instance thousands of cultists and slaves could believe that the giant rune inscribed block of metal had some impact. Concept could be importet from the Orks. Certainly Orky to use your train as a battering ram. Why yes, this is an excuse to have armored trains crashing into things.
wasn't Golgotha a squat world during the lore of Epic? also... The Imperium: Praise the Emperor. The Squats: We Praise our ancestors The Imperium: *loads bolter* Praise. The. Emperor. The Squats: Do you have a problem with your heari... Squat attendant: It says here their Emperor is 10,000 years old. The Squats: Agreed.
Minor point on armed and armored war trains. Historically armed trains worked until the advent of the dive bomber and later the US rocket bomber. If there were shields available in 40k, and there are, that and good AA might suffice. Anything on the ground getting close enough to just look at the war train would be dead from the chubby biker dudes attentions. In WW2 train tracks were bombed continuously yet the railways of both the axis and allies still had trains, rolling stock. Ironically on VE day Germany had many kilotons of train fuel. German trains ran on diesel; the tanks ran on petrol and Hitler never allowed a diesel tank. The Hungarians did use diesel tanks and thought the Nazis were nuts. Rail tracks seem vulnerable but they are easy to fix. Tracks were rebuilt so fast in the latter part of the war reconnaissance aircraft were telling the bomber command they must have missed yet they hadn't. Also Squat war trains are not rail based. They are really just a dozen tanks hitched together so none get bogged and 11 driver get some sleep. If you wanted to up date and up grade them today you would just have them brake out of the chain and attack as a dozen tanks when the shooting starts.
Please GW, bring back the squats. Change their name if you have to, maybe tweak the lore a bit. But I feel like WH40K is incomplete without space dwarves. Also, I didn't realize there was this much lore for the Squats, even if it was old lore. I thought they were benched because there wasn't enough written about them to justify their continued existence, which would explain why they could be written out so haphazardly. That just makes the "Tyranids ate them" explanation even lazier.
Last I heard of the Squats is that they allied with Horus Lupercal after he clawed his was out of Hell. Them, Goge Vindire, The Beast, Old One Eye, The Old Ones, Sindri Myr, the Techno Barbarians, the Mega Arachnids, Colonel Von Strabb, and Sly Marbo are planning to attack Holy Terra and kill the Emperor... At least that's what I heard.
Hi, the similarities in vehicules between SM and Squats is due to the simple fact that they both use the same golden/dark age of technology's STCs. Thannks for the vid.
The Lost Holds would be such a cool way to re-introduce the Squats into 40k though, the loveable space dwarfies re-discovering their ancient forge worlds and driving the orkies out with purifying flame of the grand ancestor himself, and then re-introducing their lost art of battle chuu-chuus maybe? I mean, just the dicovering and re-taking the holds would make a really cool campaign in an on itself, and I do think the squats would make a really cool army if handled properly.
With Forgeworld ending the Elysian production, it might be interesting for them to pretty much go with both squats and chaos squats for 40K. Probably as another guard force
The Squats, The War of the Squats, The Fate of the Squats, The Revenge of the Squats, The Return of the Squats. XD So, since Squats wanted innovation they may have been The Imperium's only hope.
Leman Russ (Primarch of those Vikings in space, known as the Space Wolves) mentioned them, didn't he? | 15:42 - They cannot be bargained with or bought, save with weapons that they will inevitably turned against those who tried to bribe them. | Death Guard, those that would become the beloved of Nurgle? | 25:45 - Some of us like games that cater for masochists. (e.g. Dark Souls) | 32:08 - PRAISE THE SUN!!! | 41:50 - You've covered both, one has some sticks so far up their rears that they rival the Imperial Fists in the discipline department, the others are close to Sisters of Battle in religious zeal.
Last week in Glasgow I told one of the members of staff that my 2020 WH40k Project was a Squat Army. He seemed to think it was a cool idea. I still live... for now.
Biggest reason I never got into 40k was the lack of dwarves. I enjoy these videos to get more interest in 40k and see it used to have the master race before writing them out due to their overshadowing of others. Thank you lad
chronoss chiron considering I'm writing this as I apply insect bite cream from stepping in a ant hill, I would not apologize for throwing ants. fuck them.
Looked up the train it's a large tank with smaller trailer tanks so it looks like 4 landraiders with super heavy guns on top behind a bane blade in a line.
High Confessor Nicodemus yes, as you Say in Necromunda, which as Arch states will only be characters here or there. But I was trying to argument with the announcement of sister, that has open up the possibility of a squat (maybe not army) but strike force to ally with other armies
Traianus 227 probably a whole squat Gang for Necromunda. But i hope your right and they actually make a small faction with a vehicle and two or three kinds of infantry kinda like they did for the genestealer cult, and skitarii.
I can see a modernized version of those battle trains as a line of individual vehicles moving in a line. If they did that they could reuse battle tactics from the age of sail.
Hello! Great video Arch! If I would not make a Fallout-themed Space Marine Chapter/Legion I would go for Orks or Squats. Because Space Dwarfs and Dakka! ... and their overengineered things (ah love such stuff).Every good fantasy-based RPG universe would work well without the Dwarfs. One of the best were in Warcraft :) Pitty what happened about them in lore of Warhammer. Eh would love to see those dudes in Wh40k someday... Keep the great work and have a great weekend Arch! :D
When GDW got rid or the squats I stopped buying and playing their games. I never bought anymore of their models either. Once at a convention I was approached by a GDW employee who asked me if I would like to see a game in progress and my reply was no and I related them as to why I was not interested. Later as I passed by their booth I saw the employee point to me and a gentleman approached me and asked me more questions almost trying to convince me to change my mind. I replied politely that I was ONLY interested in playing my beloved squats and since GDW decided to exterminate them and remove them from 40K that I would never purchase any of their products ever again..... The squats were a very small part of 40K and could have been kept in the game.......reap what ya sow brother. I hoped they would see the error of their ways and reinstate the Squats, but sadly no. I have gotten past GDW and never spent another dime on their games since then.
I remember the squats from the old "space marine" game. Very cool. Actually one of the best games 40k made IMO. Wonder if it's still around or they will bring it back....
"It is also protected by two Void Shields, if one of the Battlecars is destroyed the Squat player is allowed to give the two halves of the Train separate orders as each Battlecar is an independently functioning vehicle. Meaning that the Land Train can split into separate pieces only to rejoin later on." This line alone takes care of your 2 biggest criticisms of land trains. Car in the middle is hit? Split the train. Enemy has anti tank? good luck on those void shields before the train targets you.
MelleLaCruze goo.gl/images/NW4Wwv Galaxy express 999 is what you are after then. It would be awesome if they were reintroduced based off of the termite design and explained into as trains-atmospheric craft.
They do exist, you can run entire armies of them using the abhuman hoplite special rule. You could run any kind of mutant, skaven, beastman, lizardman, squat, anything ....the Emperor had a much lower bar for what he would consider human and let fight for him than the modern imperium does.
Best not to ever bring up the squats again - it hits too hard in the feels. It's also really difficult to make them unique. As for using them in the IG - they'd be drivers, tank crews, etc. Because of their smaller frame, you'd need less room for them.
I would like them used as a fast attack bike auxiliary. Since we lost support for elysians and rough riders the IG could really use a highly mobile unit with some short range hard hitting guns.
because I don't know a lot about 40K was curious what is the difference between heresy and tec-heresy? would all of the Imperium try burning them? would the mechanics only go after them? or could they even receive a visit from an inquisitor?
ciress hurd heresy by definition is to worship the dark powers, summon demons, sacrifice people or defy the emperor. Tec-heresy is tinkering with tech and creating for example an AI (Abominable Intelligence) or a cogitator Virus that acts as a transmitter for chaos. There’s even a translation of the dark language in binary, commonly known as scrapcode which if used, corrupts and twists machines and their machine spirits Hope I could clear things up :-)
Working with military equipment, I'm starting to believe "machine spirits" are an actual thing.
Literally yelling or kindly singing to certain things will make them spontaneously work or break drpending on its 'mood'.
It's bloody weird man.
Yep... The (not that cheap and rather new and well sounding) radio in my mother's kitchen is that kind of moody. The on/off switch is kinda useless since pressing it always messes with the chanal (it is also the button to tune in channels by turning it) so the radio has to be switched on and off by remote. And that sometimes simply wouldn't work. Sometimes it is yelling at it to finally turn on or desperately pleading or threatening to pull the plug that encourages this piece of sound emitting technology to do it's job.
When i was in Electrician tech school, the teacher joked about the "magic smoke" inside machines that must _never_ be let out lest it cease to function
@@violenceislife1987 Hahaha, same thing here!
I had a lawn mower that would only work for me and if i danced on top of it first. Granted there was the singing of a few choice words to go with it.
Working with digital printers seems to go the same way.
The only time a short video would work...
I see what you did there...
Well played sir.
badum tiss...
nicely done
1:05 Piscian Warrior, okay we are going to need a video on that.
Matthew Chirino
(Cheers and applause from everyone with Queen playing in the background)
Great joke.
The squats live on in the hearts of veteran players and in the stomachs of tyranids.
aleidius192 Squats are mentioned multiple times in the new Necromunda lore.
Their land trains were both extremely stupid and extremely awesome...so pretty typical for early 40K.
They've also been mentioned in the new edition, apparently
anyone else think it was the admech who killed the squats for being hereteks
aleidius192
Small person here. Those bastard bugs will pay one day mark my words. We shortarses have long memories. Remember Dwarven grudges. We're fattening them up in advance. They will be too fat to fight back when the real fight comes.
Give Squats standard size tanks.
Let them upgrade the engine and simply slap on more armor, because they need less space inside.
They had normal sized tanks, with good armor! - I had a few land raiders and like eight rhinos for my old squat warhost.
*wimpers quitely*
I'd argue the opposite a smaller take with an equal gun is always better.
There's a reason the idea of the super heavy tank died out in favor of the MBT. A smaller target is harder to hit.
It's why I find the super super heavy tanks of 40k to be absurd. It's just simple physics that it's easier to make a cannon to pierce armor than it is to make armor stop it. Ergo the superior armor is to not get hit in the first place.
Squats aren't canon, anyone who disagrees needs to have a few inquisitors visit their home.
Is the inquisition gone? Good, squats are actually a fun part of the lore that need to be brought back (BUT NOT LIKE GATHERING STORM OR THE MARY SUE MARINES)Their massive vehicles would be great on table top and I can make an army of crusading midgets.
A Random Crusader - HUMIE EMPIREZ 30K CODEX, FELLOW HUMIE! WAAAAAAAAGH!!!
FUmarc
I SHALL RE BUILD THE IMPERIAL FISTS!
FableBlaze
Well terminator marines are just 5 squats in power armor.
Its had been some time sins I have seen you
Lennert De Jaegher
Indeed, it has been far too long
Lol prymaris Marines are just squats on stilts trying to get back into the lore
I would love that as a bit of lore. Primaris marines being basically a Squat Walker, like a Dread Knight but not shit
Platzhallter 2 squats one standing on the shoulder of the other, that's why they have 2 wounds
The plot thickens!
You see what happened was that guilliman found them all sitting in the waiting room on terra, hoping for a hearing on whether or not they can get back to fighting as the mechanicum had pulled off a class action lawsuit because they were enhancing tech. They asked guilliman if he could pull some strings and so he decided that if they were able to lose some weight and fit into some power armor he would sneak them into the war as "special" marines. And its because they are so good at tech upgrades that they have better bolters, plasma guns and such.
Primaris explained lol
@@Lorddacenshadowind Thats the reveal they were all space dwarves on stilts.
Each and every squat has a napoleonic complex, take a look at their massive overcompensating vehicles. The leviathan is what happens when a battle tank fucks an imperator titan, it's just stupidly armored and armed which is why I need several of them.
Napoleon was about average size for his time.
But Arch, surely you are aware of the ancient texts heralding the glorious return of the noble Squats. It references directly the angry celibate brides being reforged in the God Emperor's blessed high impact polystyrene in addition to the hawk of thunder. This in turn was to coincide with a new glorious golden age for the empire of man, lead by a noble hero who realized his glorious oddesy and embarked upon it.
In all seriousness though. Halfling snipers and Ogre shock troops have been a thing for a long time. Surely some mobile artillery bikers of shorter stature and some ridiculously armored and armed stunty gits holding the lines would fit right into the Imperial guard regiments. Their guns have guns! What commisar would turn that down?
A biker squat Guard squadron would be bitchin.
I think in terms of story, we could see Squats return any time with refugees of the Homeworlds randomly fleeing from the CIcatrix Maledictum that now spans through the galactic core where they used to reside. Just say that the Imperium had false information and the Squats held out the Tyranids unit the Cicatrix swept the bugs away and the Squats cobbled mining fleets together that made a run through to real space.
Such a faction would propably be a front line of tough [yet not armoured] miner militia with shotguns with a couple types of elites to reinforce the front and unique vehicles in form of hellbores that are 50% above ground and can break through enemy formations, smaller landtrains that work like baneblades a bit and have technology be a rule: for evry unit the player rolls a modifications dice at the begging of the battle to determine if and how the Squat machinery was tinkered with. I think that would be a quite intresting faction to play with...
They really should just have them as a unit for the IG. Squat artillery support, squat bikers rushing around the enemy to pick off something that is pissing you off, squat manned baneblades! Just toss them in as a slight variant for standard IG.
squirrel_killer - A Squat manned Baneblade comes with about 300% more dakka.
Professor Coldheart I'm entirely convinced that the squats are responsible for things like co-axial autocannons and stubbers.
I still have my old codex books and rule books so i know all about the Squats...... COME AND GET ME GAMESWORKSHOP!!!
You may want to go check out One Page Rules, they have dwarves in spess as a playable faction. You may even be able to take a revenge on Tyrani... ehm, i meant Alien Hives.
Adeptus Asquates
no. please no.
Come brother, let's purge the mine of all the demon and the heretic! Rise your chian pike axe! And Glory to the emperor !
brother, get the flamer... *THE HEAVY FLAMER*
*INSERT PICTURE OF GIMLI SAYING "YES!"*
i laughed so hard for 5 mins over this one..all i could see was true ultrasmurfs. on gargamel battlecatts!
The race that Games Workshop did not give a squat about.
oh i see what you did there. very funny. tell me did you like that a comment you posted a year ago would ever be found again? its cool huh, the fact that you're comment is part of history and people like me can find them again in the future. like what are the chances of somone like me typeing a massive repley to you're joke.
Homo sapiens rotundus? So, sargon's people?
Niskirin He needs to play the song of his people.
Somewhere a GW forum moderator just exploded.
GW has a forum? I will admit I haven't been around the website for a while but I do remember them taking it down.
I have never wanted a Squat army more in my life. Their lore is actually pretty badass with a lot of potential for a new range from gw. Thank you for this video!
Squats had AI? So that explains what happened to them...
Cure4Living wasnt aware that they had any AI, thought it was all just well programmed drones and computers, not things that can think or act independently?
High Confessor Nicodemus I think that's debatable. The Tau do have this one computer on a highly advanced stealth suit that's advanced enough that the pilots...talk to it.
tankbuster626 i can talk to my phone and it talks back, that doesnt mean it is AI. You could very well be right though, i haven't read any of the tau lore since Shadowsun became their poster-girl. (None of my friends are playing tau so i just havent had a chance to sit down with any tau codices)
High Confessor Nicodemus the farsight Enclaves most definitely have an AI so I would assume the Empire also has a few
I know of at least one AI based off of a tau brain as well so if all their higher AI are based off that it's possible that's how they avoided the robot murder fucking
the real story is pretty sad. Around 1988, someone joined the upper management of GW as an editor and he had a total hatred of "squats" in the 40K universe. He decided to just drop them from the canon. I watched him rant on the subject at several Cons at Q&A sessions about how GW was getting rid of many of the minor races from rogue trader, since they had to decide just what they were going to concentrate on in the Miniature lines. This coincided with the change over from lead to alloy tin
makes since in a way
John Smith I don't think it was all on one guy. I've seen quotes from a few gw people that boil down to "We just didn't care for them,so got rid of them".
It's really sad. I love the weird races from RT.
@@bigrabii9470 According to Jervis Johnson, it was pretty normal in 2nd Edition for a Codex to be headed up by someone who had a real passion for that faction. And, well, nobody had that much of a passion for the Squats, so their Codex didn't get done.
@@stephenwood6663 Aye that seems about right.
You forgot Living Ancestors, the Squats version of Yoda.
The primaris make a lot of sense if you say the squats went in to hiding by order of a Inquisitior.
They pretend to be eaten and remove all life from the surface.
Hide under ground so it looks like a dead world. Shield it from scans with technology.
They hide from the mechanicum.
They hide crawl and advance the technology and use the world's as labs, testing and training grounds.
They are fully self-contained and have huge amount of resources. All they need is geenseed shipped in.
This may be stupid but it's better then what we currently got with it happing right under the mechanicum nose.
Very close to how I imagine it!!
I hope that's the case, because they're back.
Squats are my first (& favorite) 40k army making custom models from Space Marine & Ironbreaker parts.
I also have Ratlings & Ogyrans in my army too. Always wanted an Abhuman Imperial Guard army since Dawn of War & wanting to play the table top war game.
The squats need a reboot
Jeremy Sanders i use some Kharadron and Dawrf blood bowl teams and have been giving them spare weapons from the Necromunda gangs. Gonna use them as acolyte hybrids. Squats are mentioned multiple times in the new Necromunda lore.
And come together with Space Skaven!
Too bad there are no plans for this. If you want to play space dwarfs or space skaven only option is Mantics Deadzone/Warpath which is kinda 40k-ish but without the 30 years of lore. Models look quite nice though.
Demiurg.....
They _really_ don't. I'd personally like 40k to remain its own entity and not go back to being "WFB IN _SPAAACE_". Adding Squats and... ugh... "Space Skaven" sounds like it'd take 40k from being what it is now and just turn it into a damned cartoon.
You bois sucking off Arch saying his 45 minute video is great one minute after it's posted... I approve.
Blissfully adblocked since 2005-2006 and didn't even know there were ads running on online vids until about 2013 when I visited YT on someone elses computer.
The difference between videos that Arch _wants_ to do and videos that Arch is like “Yeah sure that’ll keep them from rioting for a few days” is rather incredible.
*Stop rioting* wut?
HrothgarHeavenlight **keep** them from rioting. You know, prevention?
Which is this?
I think they put the Squats on bikes because they look like biker gangs on them.
And I can't get over the idea that the Squats in exo-armor look like Easter eggs...with beards.
Don't forget daily SQUATS.
SQUATS gives you good health.
Daily SQUATS give you great hips.
Platrobot NA Never skip squatterday.
He forgot the fact that the squats beat back the great crusade, it was MK3 or MK4 power armor that was built JUST to fight the squats because the space marines where getting slaughtered in the tunnel fighting, yeah that’s how powerful they where, the could beat the imperium at the height of their power.
Ah, I was just about to comment on this, myself. Yes, old canon is that Mk III "Iron" armor was redesigned from Mk II with far heavier frontal plating to be better suited to fighting in the tight confines of Squat strongholds.
Take this +1, good sir, for your knowledge of the Squats forcing the Imperium to adapt.
Nicholas Wright well thank you kind sir
Yeah I think one of the early books had stories about that.... it wasn't the imperial first book???? Space marine was it....
Don't forget about the digganobs lol orks traded with them
FAK YOU, DIGGANOBZ!!!!
Joshua Gilbert GORKAMORKA!!!!! 15 MIN LORE VIDEO!
DIGGANOBZ!
Do you mean Wolfen?
I heard if you mention squats that GW sends out Ork snipers to.... ..
Cure4Living Ooh, ooh, i saw a movie where this new guy dressed like a wannabe goth person participated in that!
If the Tyranids made short work of the Squats, what happened to the Chaos Dwarves? They just happen to be visiting? Shouldn't there be a bunch of worlds infested with orcs, Tyranids, and Demons in the core?
35:10 But Ork reproduction doesn't work that way...
41:20 Unless the Squats were under the protection of Belisaurius 'McPlotDevice' Cawl...
Rogue Trader dude. Shit was weird back then.
Next Release: The Squats return from near the galactic core having been in hiding for all this time. Now they are beseeching the Empire to aid them in the battle with mutant chaos ratmen that they can no longer battle alone!
*Tell me you wouldn't buy into this*
Mr.13 that would be the laziest possible way to bring back the squats.
And would you be shocked by that from Games fucking Workshop?
Mr.13 yes, because recycling the dwarfs vs skaven plot and puting it in space is FUCKING STUPID! if GW think bringing back space dwarfs is to silly then there is no way in hell that they will bring back the old school hrud.
Honestly the Skaven with their warp based tech and existing tactical niche would fit rather well in the 40k setting. And considering that beast-man abhumans still exist in the lore it wouldn't be that hard to introduce them via something like Necrodmuna, or as you suggested just letting the hurd be 40k Skaven.
But that's neither here nor there; ultimately I'm pointing out that they lazily wrote the squats out of the setting, and have whenever the whim struck them hamfistedly added anything they felt would drive sales regardless of lore contradictions or lazy application. IE: Primarius Marines.
So why would them being lazy surprise you?
The story behind the Squats' rather unwise trust of the Orks is actually explained in Waaargh Da Orks: the dominant Warlord of that sector of the galaxy, one Nazgand Spleenrippa, was, at the time, heavily engaged in war against the Eldar when "da stunty gitz told us dey would pay tribute and stuff to us provided we would do da same ter dem. Dey call dis 'Trade'." Although most of the Orks thought this was kinda stupid, Nazgand saw the value of getting well-made guns and power-armour while simultaneously keeping his flank secured, and agreed to the deal.
When Nazgand died, he was succeeded as Warlord by a much more traditionalist Ork named Gatrog the Flayer, who was sitting in his throne-room one day, looking at his star map, and noticed that there was a little bit that wasn't green. Predictably enough, Gatrog decided to do something about that, and to zog with whatever Nazgand had agreed to. Being dead sneaky, Gatrog decided to bypass the Squat fortification by hiding his Boyz aboard Nazgand's trade ships, and, once they had safely landed, jump out and shoot all the stunty skum dead, dakka dakka dakka!
The stunties started bleating about treachery and betrayal and all that stuff, just because they'd suffered a good duffin', and have pretty much been trying to get back at the Orks ever since.
I just love the old Rogue Trader artwork. It’s looksso cool!!!
It would be cool if GW started using both styles.
Next, have a 40k lore about the gretchin red revoution. I love this videos.
Necromunda is coming out with a Squat mercenary? I wonder how TTS is gonna handle that.
Nowadays rouge trader feels like some strange bazaaro mirror world of 40k. its so fun learning about the old lore because of how weird it is. Some of its good, a lot of its bad but all of its weird
The scary thing is most of the Rogue Trader old lore for the Orks is, according to GW/Black Library, still canon until new lore comes along that explicitly contradicts it. Which considering GW barely ever focuses on Ork lore (Beast Arises not withstanding) compared to everyone else is probably a good thing.
I got a version of Rogue Trader that was published by Cubicle 7 through one of Humble Bundle's recent offers; how different is that version of Rogue Trader from the original Rogue Trader?
It could be that they ate Ork to get past the starvation or contaminated hydrofarm food
There is also in something in the lore that says the squats are planning to take back there homewords. The planning and execution of this would be interesting to read about. Also a squat update would do them some good.
50/50? Ill take those chances.
"KYLE! I GOT SOMETHING TO SHOW YOU!"
DrPapaPenguin What?
SEE KYLE?
man i was just thinking, i wish there was a nice long video i could listen too about a topic i like as i do other tasks, good olde Arch delivers......again!
"...In before someone cuts THAT out of context and claims it's my stance on BLACK people..."
Your delivery of that line made it a really bad moment to take a drink of my coffee, Arch. Perfect summarization of modern internet boogieman'ing and I salute your sense of humor.
I'd say they would still use battletrains to fight. However those long trains that put guns on guns didn't survive the test of times. Those smaller trains, that put armor on top of armor however did survive.
"...and these are just a few of the reasons Battletrains have never and will never work."
"Well, someone forgot to tell our squats. They've already broken through their lines. Should we tell them to stop the train?"
"WHAT?"
*Behind enemy lines inside what could be described as a propelled massive block of armor the battletrain 'pain train' rolles toward a certain heretic*
"Ye want ta take our metal ye bastard? Oh ye're gonna get ye metal. Ye're going te get all the metal, right ta the face ye bastard."
We've close combat already. Several hundret tons of propelled armor should make an impact. Not that easy to stop either, even for demons. Well, it might be depending on believe. But I believe in this instance thousands of cultists and slaves could believe that the giant rune inscribed block of metal had some impact. Concept could be importet from the Orks. Certainly Orky to use your train as a battering ram. Why yes, this is an excuse to have armored trains crashing into things.
That brought a lone tear to my eye.
Armored trains make as much sense as Titans but look we still have those!!
wasn't Golgotha a squat world during the lore of Epic?
also...
The Imperium: Praise the Emperor.
The Squats: We Praise our ancestors
The Imperium: *loads bolter* Praise. The. Emperor.
The Squats: Do you have a problem with your heari...
Squat attendant: It says here their Emperor is 10,000 years old.
The Squats: Agreed.
Arch:"I would be enthusiastic if they returned to the tabletop"...
Now, that didn't age well now did it? 😂
If they bring back squats , I’ll buy them all
Minor point on armed and armored war trains. Historically armed trains worked until the advent of the dive bomber and later the US rocket bomber. If there were shields available in 40k, and there are, that and good AA might suffice. Anything on the ground getting close enough to just look at the war train would be dead from the chubby biker dudes attentions. In WW2 train tracks were bombed continuously yet the railways of both the axis and allies still had trains, rolling stock. Ironically on VE day Germany had many kilotons of train fuel. German trains ran on diesel; the tanks ran on petrol and Hitler never allowed a diesel tank. The Hungarians did use diesel tanks and thought the Nazis were nuts.
Rail tracks seem vulnerable but they are easy to fix. Tracks were rebuilt so fast in the latter part of the war reconnaissance aircraft were telling the bomber command they must have missed yet they hadn't.
Also Squat war trains are not rail based. They are really just a dozen tanks hitched together so none get bogged and 11 driver get some sleep. If you wanted to up date and up grade them today you would just have them brake out of the chain and attack as a dozen tanks when the shooting starts.
Please GW, bring back the squats. Change their name if you have to, maybe tweak the lore a bit. But I feel like WH40K is incomplete without space dwarves.
Also, I didn't realize there was this much lore for the Squats, even if it was old lore. I thought they were benched because there wasn't enough written about them to justify their continued existence, which would explain why they could be written out so haphazardly. That just makes the "Tyranids ate them" explanation even lazier.
They were in the lore and games until 2003 with them being written out of the newest epic so 13+ years in the universe
Last I heard of the Squats is that they allied with Horus Lupercal after he clawed his was out of Hell. Them, Goge Vindire, The Beast, Old One Eye, The Old Ones, Sindri Myr, the Techno Barbarians, the Mega Arachnids, Colonel Von Strabb, and Sly Marbo are planning to attack Holy Terra and kill the Emperor... At least that's what I heard.
Hi, the similarities in vehicules between SM and Squats is due to the simple fact that they both use the same golden/dark age of technology's STCs.
Thannks for the vid.
#bringbackthesquats
#plzdont
50% chance of death on exposure to information: Acceptable risk.
Damn but I love the Inquisition.
The Lost Holds would be such a cool way to re-introduce the Squats into 40k though, the loveable space dwarfies re-discovering their ancient forge worlds and driving the orkies out with purifying flame of the grand ancestor himself, and then re-introducing their lost art of battle chuu-chuus maybe? I mean, just the dicovering and re-taking the holds would make a really cool campaign in an on itself, and I do think the squats would make a really cool army if handled properly.
I'd REALLY like to see the squats as a playable faction again!
With Forgeworld ending the Elysian production, it might be interesting for them to pretty much go with both squats and chaos squats for 40K. Probably as another guard force
What about a video about the long forgotten beauties of rogue trader?
The Squats, The War of the Squats, The Fate of the Squats, The Revenge of the Squats, The Return of the Squats. XD
So, since Squats wanted innovation they may have been The Imperium's only hope.
SPACEDORFS!
You see, the train is obviously designed with squat strong hold super structure in mind, meant for charging tunnels not open field engagements
Leman Russ (Primarch of those Vikings in space, known as the Space Wolves) mentioned them, didn't he? | 15:42 - They cannot be bargained with or bought, save with weapons that they will inevitably turned against those who tried to bribe them. | Death Guard, those that would become the beloved of Nurgle? | 25:45 - Some of us like games that cater for masochists. (e.g. Dark Souls) | 32:08 - PRAISE THE SUN!!! | 41:50 - You've covered both, one has some sticks so far up their rears that they rival the Imperial Fists in the discipline department, the others are close to Sisters of Battle in religious zeal.
Last week in Glasgow I told one of the members of staff that my 2020 WH40k Project was a Squat Army.
He seemed to think it was a cool idea.
I still live... for now.
Squats LIVES! Spehs Dwarfs are to KAWAI to simply extinct
too*
Biggest reason I never got into 40k was the lack of dwarves. I enjoy these videos to get more interest in 40k and see it used to have the master race before writing them out due to their overshadowing of others. Thank you lad
this is ancient history ....and I'm a anthropologist
I'm allllll over it
ANT-THROW-APOLOGIST
chronoss chiron considering I'm writing this as I apply insect bite cream from stepping in a ant hill, I would not apologize for throwing ants. fuck them.
Never forgave GW for what they did to Squats, I was building up my Squat epic army and then, whoop, all gone.
Only Arch can make a 46 min video and say that it was a bit "loose and fast".
Maciej Misiewicz Arch likes his stunties "fast and loose". It gives him a good place to set his stein down on.
Looked up the train it's a large tank with smaller trailer tanks so it looks like 4 landraiders with super heavy guns on top behind a bane blade in a line.
They were never officially eaten by Tyranids, in the same way they were not officially sacrificed to the Emperor.
Love the old Paul Bonner illustrations of the squats. They have so much character.
Even though, you have to admit that the announcement of the plastic sisters may put a wrench into that idea of no more squat armies in the future
Traianus 227 i think squats are coming, they are mentioned multiple times in the new Necromunda lore.
High Confessor Nicodemus yes, as you Say in Necromunda, which as Arch states will only be characters here or there. But I was trying to argument with the announcement of sister, that has open up the possibility of a squat (maybe not army) but strike force to ally with other armies
Traianus 227 probably a whole squat Gang for Necromunda. But i hope your right and they actually make a small faction with a vehicle and two or three kinds of infantry kinda like they did for the genestealer cult, and skitarii.
...Not really?
Arch. We're 40k players. By nature we are gluttons for punishment. Midroll ads are are gentle
"-this is good piece of knowledge ar-"
*knock knock*
I can see a modernized version of those battle trains as a line of individual vehicles moving in a line. If they did that they could reuse battle tactics from the age of sail.
they say that necromunda will have them but I want my wh40k batallion
Dave Dogge A little kitbashing of Catachans and Dwarves would do it.
you can kitbash them but where are their wh40k 8th edition datasheets and codex ?
Necromunda had a single Bounty Hunter model available from Forge World.
The same place as Illiyan Nastase and Doomrider's shit.
Or use Kharadon Overlords models from Age of Sigmar.
I had no ad, now I'm confused
could the battletrains use void shields?..they were big enough..the titans do.
MANDAR MUKHERJEE yes they did. The Train Engine came with some void shield, and a specialized additional battle car added more.
Yeah I'm pretty sure they did
Hello!
Great video Arch! If I would not make a Fallout-themed Space Marine Chapter/Legion I would go for Orks or Squats. Because Space Dwarfs and Dakka! ...
and their overengineered things (ah love such stuff).Every good fantasy-based RPG universe would work well without the Dwarfs. One of the best were in Warcraft :)
Pitty what happened about them in lore of Warhammer. Eh would love to see those dudes in Wh40k someday...
Keep the great work and have a great weekend Arch! :D
Why am I here? Im not even a Warhammer fan!
...
*Onto the next lore video* thanks YT recommendations...
When GDW got rid or the squats I stopped buying and playing their games. I never bought anymore of their models either. Once at a convention I was approached by a GDW employee who asked me if I would like to see a game in progress and my reply was no and I related them as to why I was not interested. Later as I passed by their booth I saw the employee point to me and a gentleman approached me and asked me more questions almost trying to convince me to change my mind. I replied politely that I was ONLY interested in playing my beloved squats and since GDW decided to exterminate them and remove them from 40K that I would never purchase any of their products ever again..... The squats were a very small part of 40K and could have been kept in the game.......reap what ya sow brother. I hoped they would see the error of their ways and reinstate the Squats, but sadly no. I have gotten past GDW and never spent another dime on their games since then.
Good sir, I dare the Inquisition to find me!
SQUATS!
SQUATS!
(also, space lizards would be amazing)
I remember the squats from the old "space marine" game. Very cool. Actually one of the best games 40k made IMO. Wonder if it's still around or they will bring it back....
Sorry epic
AAAAW I WANT SPACE LIZARDMEN!
They use to exist as well...Slann were originally your space Lizard/frog men in Rogue Trader.
luketfer yeah isn't the fan consensus the Old Ones were Slaan?
Yeah back in Rogue trader they were just another race but since then it seems to suggest that the Old Ones are actually Slann.
"It is also protected by two Void Shields, if one of the Battlecars is destroyed the Squat player is allowed to give the two halves of the Train separate orders as each Battlecar is an independently functioning vehicle. Meaning that the Land Train can split into separate pieces only to rejoin later on."
This line alone takes care of your 2 biggest criticisms of land trains. Car in the middle is hit? Split the train. Enemy has anti tank? good luck on those void shields before the train targets you.
Never skip leg day!
Hmmm chance of necromunda squats eh?..... I guess they could throw theme on the front lines for a tasty tyranid snack.
Wtf is that Steamtank-train looking thing @ 4:30 ?
Edit: Turns out they're Squat Land Trains. Neat.
Squat Land Trains...
As oppose to what? sea train? space train?
Actually on a second thought, space train would be fucking awesome
MelleLaCruze goo.gl/images/NW4Wwv
Galaxy express 999 is what you are after then.
It would be awesome if they were reintroduced based off of the termite design and explained into as trains-atmospheric craft.
I wonder if the inquisition with their hate and blood thirst are actually feeding the blood god :p
Where? I didn't see any short people with bolter guy that certainly didn't exist.
“Eaten by Tyranids.” Well, this aged like fine wine
AND SLY MARBO
Jotaro kujo AAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
Jotaro kujo and are you a JoJo reference
Sherlock Wayne no, I'm TTS reference
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!
Sooo basically the fate of the squats resembles every other Dwarf Fortress fate...
I wonder why they haven't turned up in The Horus Heresy?
They do exist, you can run entire armies of them using the abhuman hoplite special rule. You could run any kind of mutant, skaven, beastman, lizardman, squat, anything ....the Emperor had a much lower bar for what he would consider human and let fight for him than the modern imperium does.
Well I hope you are surprised and a little delighted.
Best not to ever bring up the squats again - it hits too hard in the feels. It's also really difficult to make them unique.
As for using them in the IG - they'd be drivers, tank crews, etc. Because of their smaller frame, you'd need less room for them.
I would like them used as a fast attack bike auxiliary. Since we lost support for elysians and rough riders the IG could really use a highly mobile unit with some short range hard hitting guns.
And now the Squats are back in 40k as the Leagues of Votann.
I didn't see the mid way ad :( and I don't have ad block on.
and now the Squats are back...
GW brought them back, hope you enjoy them getting ruined.
because I don't know a lot about 40K was curious what is the difference between heresy and tec-heresy? would all of the Imperium try burning them? would the mechanics only go after them? or could they even receive a visit from an inquisitor?
ciress hurd heresy by definition is to worship the dark powers, summon demons, sacrifice people or defy the emperor. Tec-heresy is tinkering with tech and creating for example an AI (Abominable Intelligence) or a cogitator Virus that acts as a transmitter for chaos. There’s even a translation of the dark language in binary, commonly known as scrapcode which if used, corrupts and twists machines and their machine spirits
Hope I could clear things up :-)
ALLright ...Their BAAACK!
Oh, so dwarfs are squats, but in not-space?
Why do mon-keigh have to complicate everything?