@@ALLforROME tbch, this whole thing is kinda goofy. The dudes a known asshole and has rage fits cause of the roids. Every single person that joined the band knew this. They wanted a piece of the as i lay dying pie because it does better numbers than any band they've played in and they wanted it without dealing with the drama that comes with it. If they didnt wanna deal with the yelly muscle man, they could've joined wovenwar. Oh wait... Nobody listened to wovenwar or even knew it was a thing that existed. Idk why its so hard to separate the personal from the professional. Write and play music together and go back to your regular life. Screw the feelings.
@@TheDominicKellmanPodcast its just ridiculous. I have no doubts that tims a douche but I also have no doubts that he 100% isnt the reason as i lay dying isnt thriving right now. Nick was an absolute female when it came to feelings and Josh wasnt any better. Ken and Ryan also famously beefed with their last bands. Its unquestionable to me at that point that they play a much larger role in this than tim ever did.
@@chrisbruchak4519 dude your so right Tim clearly is the piece of the puzzle to why the band is so successful I just think people aren’t hardcore enough nowadays to make the perfect music 🙏
As I lay dying is the single most important band to get me into metal as a teenager. The sound was tighter than most local bands and the riffs were easy to learn. My old band covered Forever so many times live.
Man I just started listening to this podcast and I gotta say, Garza is a FANTASTIC interviewer. Really down to earth guy who wants to understand. Much props to him.
My first metal show was seeing As I Lay Dying (they opened), Chimaira, In Flames, & Killswitch on the End of Heartache tour in 2004. One of the best shows of my life.
I saw this show also in Phx, AZ but it was far from my first. My first was 10 years earlier. Im old lol. I first saw In Flames in 2000 twice. They were my fave band from 1997-2002
@@pleasuretokill It's hard for me to remember if that was indeed my first metal show or not. I really think it was. But I also remember seeing Static-X a handful of times back in the early 2000s so it's a bit skewed. The Freddy vs Jason Soundtrack was my introduction to just about every band on that bill strangely enough and SO many of my favorite bands still to this day. Killswitch Engage with Howard's first contribution with the band "When Darkness Falls". In Flames' "Trigger" was the first song by them I'd ever heard. Chimaira's "Army of Me". Great soundtrack, great bands, great show.
Loved that they got into trauma and the debate of therapy cost & accessibility. I appreciate their vulnerability and want to echo the encouragement to go balls deep into your healing.
52:18 What Tim's saying here rings so true. I've been to prison for theft to feed a drug addiction, twice. Please, think before you act... 5 seconds could cost you 5 years of your life, or worse... Much love everyone 💜
Pretty touching interview. Mad props to Tim being so earnest and upright, definitely changed my opinions about him after he laid it out from his perspective.
This was a great conversation, props to both Chris and Tim for bringing a lot of deep topics to the light and letting the fans of Tim and AILD have some clarity.
@@alee7275 instrumentally, yes. But the mix/master sounds dated and you can’t understand a single word Tim is saying. My vocal annunciation is a thousand times better than Tim’s and he had been screaming for 2 years longer than I currently have.
For sure, but it’s okay to not see past what he did. Everyone can be forgiving, some of us don’t have to. The comment section is so understanding and it can be somewhat unnerving to read. The commitment to the artist so much that whatever happened is permissible. Fair enough…two ways to look at this.
Tim has the best scream in the game. I still remember playing this on full blast playing ping pong in the garage. What a legend, hope he can make it through the struggle
@@YungGrandson not really. I'm just saying the joke would have stuck more if he had succeeded. Not saying that I wish that happened. I'm just saying the joke doesn't exactly work in this case. Or "Pun" I should say
@@YungGrandson in actuality, I was shocked and disappointed in Tim when the news of that broke out. He was one of my musical heroes in high school. Yeah, his ex wife was a nasty, scheming bitch but having her taken out isn't the way at all. He should have played the long game and exposed her for who she truly is instead of essentially making a martyr out of her, which only helps her own agenda further. But he was also roided the fuck out and being an overaggressive idiot who clearly wasn't thinking rationally
I can't believe I just found this podcast less than a week ago. Been a fan since the first album made waves on the east coast. I love this shit man tons of great interviews and dudes just chilling. Much love and support for this to get bigger. To quote from the ricky hoover podcast "no more positivity keep it negative" lmfao 🤘🏻 keep killing it dude
It's wild how these badass dudes are getting so vulnerable. You can hear their anxiety in their nervous systems just firing in the shakiness in both of their voices. Mad respect for the openness
Dude such a Rad episode. I never forget the first time I met Tim, I walked up to a studio I was practicing and living in and he was sweeping the driveway. This was right before an ocean between us dropped and it hit me how humble he was. Good shit man
Dude, let me tell you guys a interesting story here, so when they came to my country Taiwan in 2013 I had the live DVD that I was going to get them signed but failed, I was so disappointed, right after they finished the show and got back to US Tim got arrested, and the rest is history. Fast forward to early 2020 before the pandemic hit they did the “reunion” tour in Asia and came to my country Taiwan again, I was beyond excited, the show promoter is my good friend so I got a chance to interview Tim in person, they’re all half joking about Tim saying that he’s a big guy and scary by the things he did, but we sat down and had a great conversation about 20 mins and he is polite and friendly, then I finally got the DVD along with 3 LP records signed by the full members, plus I was also the drum tech for Jordan on that show, I kinda feel that the line up wasn’t going to last long so I grab the chance to get all my stuff signed, I have picture to prove on my Instagram if you scroll down to that time. Anyway AILD will forever be one of my biggest influences and favorite bands since I discovered them in my high school years, that’s pre UA-cam age, I went to yahoo music and click on metal/rock genre to see the chart almost everyday, that’s how I found Through Struggle MV and got into the band, thanks for the memory guys, love from Taiwan 🇹🇼
So, i was thinking - you want to say, that it's in some way ever better for Tim to get the whole new aild line up, of a better musicians and personas to keep the machine called as i lay dying go on?
I cried listening to Tim talk about his struggles as a father and his feelings of isolation. Thank you for having him on the pod. Been a fan of As I Lay Dying for as long as they been around.
Garza's comment about being unlovable hit home for me...I'm not the person I used to be and it's hard to get back to a good mindset again to be someone worthy of being loved. I'm surprised my wife hasn't left me already. Sadly I don't know how to change it on my own so perhaps therapy is the solution.
@@thekraken4886 for fucking real the hardest decisions will CHANGE YOUR LIFE and you shouldn’t dwell on it, don’t give yourself an opportunity to wish you did it earlier get it done
Tim is highly intelligent and thoughtful. Would like to hear him talk more about philosophy. Not afraid to ask the hard questions. This was a great podcast. Thank you!
@@Alfredo78666 Let's hold you accountable for the things you say/do to people during your lowest point, then see if you're man enough to own and try to rectify your mistakes.
This was a 10/10 podcast man. I understand people may not like Tim and probably never will. However I think it also shows what kind of people we are if we aren't willing to give someone else a second chance. The man has done his time, has made an effort to help others not go down the same path. You don't have to like the man Tim was, but hopefully one day you can like the man he became. I just don't see the point in constantly bringing up someone's lowest moment over and over again as if these fans were victims themselves. Why not appreciate that someone who's done prison time and is striving to make amendments and help others, instead of constantly shitting on them? I hope people like Tim can help inspire other inmates to do the same and find a cause after prison. Cause our system won't.
@@jamesross9724 Yep, but luckily nobody was harmed. He paid his time in prison, and has been working on being a new man. You dont have to like him, but some of us show empathy for someone who has wronged, and is on the right path of life. He made amends with his ex wife, his band mates and he paid his dues. Why not show compassion to someone who is trying to be a better human being and helping others not do the same thing.
He ain't honorable. He attempted murder. He got caught, and frankly, got off light. He's nothing to admire. Real men don't hurt women, much less try to murder them. He's a pussy, who's earned tits to match.
@@anthonyfrombelowYou are posting a ton of reply comments on this video to everyone who shows even the smallest amount of support for Tim. Don't you have a life to live? Why not just ignore Tim, and pretend he doesn't exist if it offends you so much that people are willing to give him a second chance? Just because people support Tim doesn't mean they don't condone his heinous crime of solicitation to murder his ex-wife. You can be judged for past mistakes, learn, and try to become a better person. Not everyone who does wrong will, but I have witnessed said positive change in my own family as I had someone go through something similar. It took me a long time to accept what my family member did, but eventually I was able to learn acceptance, and spread love. It just takes maturity to understand that everyone makes mistakes some of them more serious than other's. Some of them unforgivable. I personally don't forgive Tim's prior actions, but I do believe that he has made a consistent attempt to change for the better. I hope that you never do anything that hurts another person physically, mentally, or spiritually because you obviously lack compassion or any ounce of forgiveness regardless of context, reason, or logic. So it wouldn't be paid forward on your end.
I love you Tim, I’m glad your back, and I’m sorry for the hurt that your carrying, everyone makes mistakes, but a slim amount recognizes it and makes the effort to change. I hope to meet you some day and give you a huge hug my friend and pit like never before. Thanks for this podcast, it was needed
@@RonDonValante only in the sense that Dahmer had delusional fans that wrote to him, accepting him for who he is. This guy probably was one of the people that wrote to him
Great interview, love the respect and feedback Garza gives❤️ it’s a touchy subject, but I believe in 2nd chances as well. AILD will forever be my favorite band, rooting for ya Tim stay strong!🙏🏻💪🏼🤘🏼🔥
This is an incredible conversation. Mad respect to Tim on his growth and understanding and respect for himself and everyone’s opinion on his situation. I’ve done a few things in my life I’m not proud of, horrible things, but I grew through it and remind myself daily to never go back to that place. Tim keep pushing forward. Keep your head up. Great convo Garza.
Yes, I've done many things I'm not proud of as well- but soliciting someone to kill my husband is not one of them. Unbelievable the support this guy is getting.
@@edyann Exactly. I'm surprised I had to scroll this far down to find this comment lol. There's a reason why everyone except Phil left the fucking band. It's obvious that they see through his bullshit and decided they couldn't do it for the money anymore. Like it or not, AILD sells tickets and I'm sure that was the number one reason why they decided to bring him back, because they were all financially fucked. It amazes me how people think that the guy who spent quite some time planning to have his wife snuffed out couldn't just keep on lying and manipulate the narrative and his surroundings in order to keep his career afloat. He's gonna do and say whatever he needs in order to keep the AILD cash cow mooing. And I say all of this as a longtime fan since 2006. It sucks big time, but we seem to be in the minority of people that can't trust this guy anymore.
@@PonchoVonRichtor Hi, Eric. Thank you, exactly. And honestly I had no idea who he was but I saw him on an episode of Corrupt Crimes. No one here is perfect and I fought with my ex many times.. but soliciting someone to kill him never, ever entered my brain. And I searched for this guy on the internet and now he has a new wife, huh. I wouldn't trust him at all. Wow...
This is so cool to hear grown men getting vulnerable and being so open about deep issues. Real life problems and solutions right here. I’ve sent this podcast to a few people that can relate who are in the music industry
Tim should be a spokesperson for people to heal and he’s real. Love this guy. Thanks for this providing a platform. I’m listening to AILD again big time
@xravenx24fe damn bro are you paid to demonize this guy or something? You're just going after everyone on here lol. Must have a lot of time on your hands
Love your podcast dude. This was a great episode. Didn't really know how to feel about Tim moving on with AILD and all that, but your guys conversation really helped me to figure out my feelings about it... if that makes sense. Keep up the good work Garza!
11:55-12:00 what he just said right there rings so true! In the early 00’s I was still into 80’s thrash and 90’s metal. Couldn’t stand any other genre with any sort of extreme vocals. But then for whatever reason. I fell in love wit AILD. And eventually harsh vocals in general. If it wasn’t for AILD. I wouldn’t have ever discovered Metalcore or any other sub-genre that popped up during that time.
Also, hearing what Tim had to say about this new wave of Metalcore and Wage War. I thought that funny. Because I grew up with traditional Metalcore. But I’m really digging this new wave. I’ve listened to yak since Shadows. And know/love both AILD and WW 😂
As a fan this has been a healing interview for myself as well. I didn't know about the video the guys uploaded talking about how they felt and what they've been through and I looked it up because of this interview. When I first saw Tim's name on this episode I was like WTF!? Why are people giving this MF a platform? I was legit never going to forgive Tim and never listen to his music again...but I've found myself listening to their new material and connecting with it. Thank you for this.
Definitely hit a spot when talking about insurance not covering therapy. That is needed now more than ever in society, and it should not be limited to just “10 visits, then it is on you until next year.” A lot of people really need it. These aren’t bad people, they just need some help from therapists to find out why they do things and how to be able to function properly. I am grateful for therapy, and not ashamed to admit I go. Also, first episode I came upon, you got a new fan! Thanks to you and Tim for taking the time and putting this out🤘🏻😈🤘🏻
Thanks Chris and Tim for this really awesome listen. Chris, I'd love to see Alex the Terrible on the show if possible. I know he's worked on his English a lot and given what's happening in Russia/Ukraine, I'd love to hear from him. I'm hoping to see Slaughter to Prevail next month.
As I lay dying were a huge part of my growth when it comes to metal, their earliest material were some of the heaviest at the time and bands like them opened my eyes along with misery signals of how incredible metal was becoming musically.
I’ll throw in a completely unrelated comment; specifically about Chris’ sponsors: EMG pickups are absolutely my favorite pickups as well. I played the 81/85 combo on my old Dean, and I loved them. I hot-rodded my Schecter C1+ with the EMG JH set, and holy shit, that thing turned into a fire breathing beast. #emgpickups are my choice!
AILD are gods to me. Their sound, riffs, breakdowns, vocals are downright filthy! I stand behind you Tim and can’t wait to see you at the intersection july 19th in Grand Rapids Michigan! Wish you could get the originals members back together for that show!
Never think I’d see Tim get that emotional at around 1:01:05…props to him for being able to share the details regarding the ups and downs of his band’s history and his own life here
Great Interview. I think it's time for Tim to finally bury the bad times and memory hole all that stuff. I got to catch AILD in Tucson a while back when this latest tour began and they were great. Good times ahead. Very interested to see what new material AILD decides to put out with the new line-up and even Tim's side projects.
Damn I never thought I would see Tim fall apart. Kudos to him for genuinely trying to change. And fuck the haters man. What he did was not okay and nobody should ever do. But you can tell he feels bad about it. And is trying to change.
"Sat there in a cell thinking how did I become this person", I feel that. I went through the same thing. Even now I have a hard time forgiving myself for who I became, and how I have to approach every friendship/work relationship/relationship with the added weight of people finding out what I did and what I went through. I don't want to be known as the ex-con, or guy with a criminal record, and when most people I meet find out that I have a checkered past, they have a hard time believing who I was at that period in my life.
The first album I was ever introduced to was as I lay dying and it was from my best friend Skyler, Skyler passed away 4 years ago from a drug overdose, one of the last biggest memories I have with him was going to the first shows with Tim out with after the burial, thank you for your honesty tim, this was the podcast I didn’t know i needed to hear
It's absolutely amazing to see Tim's transformation as a guy who has spent most of his childhood and early adulthood in and out of correction facilities my heart goes out to this man
When u was in middle school and as I lay dying had just released frail words collapse I emailed aild website, supposedly Tim ran the email and we would email back and forth a couple of times about life problems. Maybe it was him maybe it wasn't but me thinking it was tim really helped guide me it what I was going through at the time.
I really loved this episode. The conversation is so interesting. Tim seems like he genuinely cares about becoming a better person. Congrats to him for finding so much introspection from that time in his life. I hope good things can come his way.
I have some pretty massive respect for this man after watching this. I feel his regret is genuine. With him not being afraid to talk about it. Even after all these years as transparently and honestly as he can shows this. The respect he shows for his former band mates even though they can't put what he did behind them. I hope everything works out for all of them.
Because it's disgusting. If you knew him personally and tried to have one of your sisters killed you think you'd be up to forgiving him yet or is just cause he is like a D level metal celebrity?
@@xkmmx2132 with people like you that are filled with hate and don't know the word ''forgive'' you only would make the things worse, everyone messes up and i'm not defending him but if somebody actually makes the effort to be a better person why not forgive him and gave him a second chance? i think the only one disgusting here is you, you can't always condemn people and not having the intelligence and compassion to forgive if it's necessary you gonna live a sad life living with that resentment and moral superiority
@xkmmx2132 not even a relevant question. They are free to not forgive him. We just gotta forgive him enough to enjoy his music. Not that it's even our place not being at all involved in the sitation to offer forgiveness - he didn't do anything to us.
@@dustyw I'll keep humming that tune too. Tim doesn't deserve to live it down. He deserves to be in prison... 2 years for attempted murder of your life partner is an absolute joke. And so are the people that d ride Tim
@@prepperandson1399 i don't like what he did i agree wit you on that 100%. But Garza seems like a good dude who had good intentions doing this interview. Not to glorify Tim but just talk about his journey.
It’s rare in life to get anyone as genuinely into bands and their music as Garza is. I’m 37 and I’ve only met one person who lived and breathed music like me and unfortunately we don’t talk anymore. And Tim’s crazy work ethic is what got them signed to Metal Blade. Say what you will but dude ram the band like a manager and took them from a garage to filled venues in Europe.
Garza was so uncomfortable when introing the segment about the incarceration. You can tell from his beating around the bush (understandably so) and his reframing of the context surrounding the delivery. This is a human who has exceptional interpersonal skills and cares deeply for others. If he didn’t, he would have simply asked the question and not cared about the response (whether it was positively or negatively received by Tim). I have found so much respect for this podcast. God Bless garza.
AILD has had such a major impact on my life both as a teen and as an adult. That impact continues to this day. Also, as a recovering alcholic/addict, Misery Evolving is very relevant and impactful as well. Thanks for this content, Chris and Tim!!! Much love from Ohio!!! 💪 R.I.P. Mitch Lucker
Im glad i watched this, mad respect for Tim. My sister has torn our family apart with her drug addiction, but can't even own up to the most innocuous things she has done. It's refreshing to see someone so openly and honestly talk about their mistakes and the implications they have on others.
So true, speaking of different era (recording standards and techniques, etc); that's why my threshold is around 2015 now, cuz the sound's changed so much. But (!!) some recordings are out of time regardless, one of those are AILD old albums ❤ for sure, pure classics
I like what Tim says about incarceration not being anything therapeutic and it needs to be talked about because if you send someone to prison for 3 or 10 or 20 years even, that person will get out at some point so what has the prison process as a whole done during that time to correct and rehabilitate that persons behavior? Sounds like next to nothing as I don't think fear of going back is enough sometimes (as Tim also stated in reference to gang members)
👏🏻 Couldn’t have said it any better. Our system and the culture of America is to only punish. Problem is, punishing someone doesn’t fix the issue and doesn’t teach them the skills they need to be a better person in society. In fact, for most people it only makes it worse. Without interventions that focus to correct the core issues, it’s just a vicious cycle that can’t be broken. You can hate the crime the person did, have compete disapproval of that person’s choices, but still be a fan of wanting to see them change and grow into someone who helps rather than hurts people.
@@anoceanbetweenus89 people don’t want to fix the issues. It’s easier for most people to kick the problems under the rug and continue to hate others for their mistakes.
Props to Tim for taking accountability and being open about his whole situation. To be fair, I don’t think people necessarily hate him. I believe they’re just hurt and disappointed for what he did.
I’ve seen firsthand that Tim is the real deal. We have a mutual friend that is an insane drummer, awesome father, but spiraled back into drug addiction when his ex used our disgusting system to rip his daughter away from him. Tim was right there, right away, sending him care packages and providing support. From what I’ve seen, he’s the real deal.
You should do an interview with CJ McMahon from Thy Art Is Murder. That would be some great content. Or even Alex Terrible would be a good episode also.
Took me a while to listen to this one but man, so glad I did. Tim is a great example of how someone acts and sounds when they have truly reckoned with their darkest moments: humbled, grateful, compassionate. Tim is a great example of how one can move a life forward while still taking ownership of some truly awful choices. I wish him the best. Thanks Garza for this opportunity.
I’m glad you got Tim and every member of the entire band for this interview. Really adds to the ambiance
Lmao
Time for another Tim interview please. And can you ask him why EVERY ONE keeps leaving?!?!? 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂
@@ALLforROME tbch, this whole thing is kinda goofy. The dudes a known asshole and has rage fits cause of the roids. Every single person that joined the band knew this. They wanted a piece of the as i lay dying pie because it does better numbers than any band they've played in and they wanted it without dealing with the drama that comes with it. If they didnt wanna deal with the yelly muscle man, they could've joined wovenwar. Oh wait... Nobody listened to wovenwar or even knew it was a thing that existed. Idk why its so hard to separate the personal from the professional. Write and play music together and go back to your regular life. Screw the feelings.
@@chrisbruchak4519 Spoken like a true, right wing piece of trash. So. Fucking. Classy.
@@chrisbruchak4519i literally couldn’t of said it better my self ! They wanted the clout and morals didn’t matter then did they 🤣👀👀
@@TheDominicKellmanPodcast its just ridiculous. I have no doubts that tims a douche but I also have no doubts that he 100% isnt the reason as i lay dying isnt thriving right now. Nick was an absolute female when it came to feelings and Josh wasnt any better. Ken and Ryan also famously beefed with their last bands. Its unquestionable to me at that point that they play a much larger role in this than tim ever did.
@@chrisbruchak4519 dude your so right Tim clearly is the piece of the puzzle to why the band is so successful I just think people aren’t hardcore enough nowadays to make the perfect music 🙏
Now that’s a killer podcast guest!
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 he’s gonna keep making “hits” don’t you worry 👀🤣🤣💀💀
@TheDominicKellmanPodcast *Codename 47 GIF intensifies*
@@dlc435 “as I pay for dying” 😂
wow i cant believe you got all the members of as i lay dying
😂😂😂
W comment 😂😂
As I lay dying is the single most important band to get me into metal as a teenager. The sound was tighter than most local bands and the riffs were easy to learn. My old band covered Forever so many times live.
I definitely agree with this
@@mikeskis7887 omg me too every metal band I was in, we always covered forever!
Mad props to both Chris & Tim for having these amazing conversations for the fans. I know a lot of this wouldn’t of been the easiest to talk about.
He hit the nail on the head at 1:01:07. Healing takes a lot of years. It does get better. Don't ever give up. Ever.
Real talk, dude. You’ve gotta be patient. You’ve gotta be consistent.
This aged like milk😂💀
What's he healing from? Is he the victim or the predator?
Man I just started listening to this podcast and I gotta say, Garza is a FANTASTIC interviewer. Really down to earth guy who wants to understand. Much props to him.
My first metal show was seeing As I Lay Dying (they opened), Chimaira, In Flames, & Killswitch on the End of Heartache tour in 2004. One of the best shows of my life.
Oh Lordy Lordy. What a time to be a fan
I saw this show also in Phx, AZ but it was far from my first. My first was 10 years earlier. Im old lol. I first saw In Flames in 2000 twice. They were my fave band from 1997-2002
@@pleasuretokill It's hard for me to remember if that was indeed my first metal show or not. I really think it was. But I also remember seeing Static-X a handful of times back in the early 2000s so it's a bit skewed. The Freddy vs Jason Soundtrack was my introduction to just about every band on that bill strangely enough and SO many of my favorite bands still to this day. Killswitch Engage with Howard's first contribution with the band "When Darkness Falls". In Flames' "Trigger" was the first song by them I'd ever heard. Chimaira's "Army of Me". Great soundtrack, great bands, great show.
Hell yeah dude. First show was ever green terrace, misery signals, august burns red and as I lay dying. Unmatched energy.
One of the best shows of your life .....I hope there comes a day you'll think back & laugh at that statement.
so glad this band is finally coming to an end.
Great conversation. Honestly didn't expect it to be this good, but was pleasantly surprised. Thank you Chris and thank you Tim.
Loved that they got into trauma and the debate of therapy cost & accessibility. I appreciate their vulnerability and want to echo the encouragement to go balls deep into your healing.
This interview answered all of my unanswered questions about AILD and what happened and why with the band. Good job. 👍
52:18 What Tim's saying here rings so true. I've been to prison for theft to feed a drug addiction, twice. Please, think before you act... 5 seconds could cost you 5 years of your life, or worse... Much love everyone 💜
Pretty touching interview. Mad props to Tim being so earnest and upright, definitely changed my opinions about him after he laid it out from his perspective.
It must be and incredible feeling to think you’re the best in the world at everything you do.
This was a great conversation, props to both Chris and Tim for bringing a lot of deep topics to the light and letting the fans of Tim and AILD have some clarity.
Tim, re-record vocals and remix Shadows Are Security as a special release! ABR does this!
I’d like that as a fan, but his vocals are the same to me like good to go. Just me though
What a fucking great idea
Tim’s vocals are not very great now. I feel like his vocals peaked on Awakened.
Don’t fix what’s not broken. That album is perfect
@@alee7275 instrumentally, yes. But the mix/master sounds dated and you can’t understand a single word Tim is saying. My vocal annunciation is a thousand times better than Tim’s and he had been screaming for 2 years longer than I currently have.
One of the most underrated podcasts. Can’t wait to see this shit blow up!
This whole episode made me a little teary eyed and nostalgic, and i wanted to hug you both haha
Praise to Tim for being so vulnerable & open
For sure, but it’s okay to not see past what he did. Everyone can be forgiving, some of us don’t have to. The comment section is so understanding and it can be somewhat unnerving to read. The commitment to the artist so much that whatever happened is permissible. Fair enough…two ways to look at this.
@@elcaminocarcrsh don’t ever listen to or support him again if you feel that way. It’s your right.
@@HAST0408 🤣🤣 Did you really think they needed YOU to tell them that?? What a goofy comment!
@@Jayson-tt3qo the 15 upvotes suggest otherwise. Side note - work on your grammar.
@@HAST0408 LOL Imagine thinking 15 upvotes is something substantial...
Tim has the best scream in the game. I still remember playing this on full blast playing ping pong in the garage. What a legend, hope he can make it through the struggle
This was a killer episode!
LOL. Great choice of words haha
Cute. but he didn't kill his wife. Soliciting of attempted murder. But still funny nonetheless I suppose
@@katerinavialpando3620 crazy that you're trying to down play him trying to have his WIFE murdered.
@@YungGrandson not really. I'm just saying the joke would have stuck more if he had succeeded. Not saying that I wish that happened. I'm just saying the joke doesn't exactly work in this case. Or "Pun" I should say
@@YungGrandson in actuality, I was shocked and disappointed in Tim when the news of that broke out. He was one of my musical heroes in high school. Yeah, his ex wife was a nasty, scheming bitch but having her taken out isn't the way at all. He should have played the long game and exposed her for who she truly is instead of essentially making a martyr out of her, which only helps her own agenda further. But he was also roided the fuck out and being an overaggressive idiot who clearly wasn't thinking rationally
I can't believe I just found this podcast less than a week ago. Been a fan since the first album made waves on the east coast. I love this shit man tons of great interviews and dudes just chilling. Much love and support for this to get bigger. To quote from the ricky hoover podcast "no more positivity keep it negative" lmfao 🤘🏻 keep killing it dude
It's wild how these badass dudes are getting so vulnerable. You can hear their anxiety in their nervous systems just firing in the shakiness in both of their voices. Mad respect for the openness
Awakened is definitely my favorite album of theirs! So good!
Dude such a Rad episode. I never forget the first time I met Tim, I walked up to a studio I was practicing and living in and he was sweeping the driveway. This was right before an ocean between us dropped and it hit me how humble he was. Good shit man
He tried to pay someone to kill his wife lol.
How is that humble
woooow he swept his driveway?! how humble! what an incredible human being!
@@wildxsevenpeople don't typically do cleaning and maintenance of the studio they're renting.
@@TheGoldenCapstone ahh in that case then what an absolute fucking hero. forget tryna murder his wife 🤟🤟🤟🤟
Dude, let me tell you guys a interesting story here, so when they came to my country Taiwan in 2013 I had the live DVD that I was going to get them signed but failed, I was so disappointed, right after they finished the show and got back to US Tim got arrested, and the rest is history.
Fast forward to early 2020 before the pandemic hit they did the “reunion” tour in Asia and came to my country Taiwan again, I was beyond excited, the show promoter is my good friend so I got a chance to interview Tim in person, they’re all half joking about Tim saying that he’s a big guy and scary by the things he did, but we sat down and had a great conversation about 20 mins and he is polite and friendly, then I finally got the DVD along with 3 LP records signed by the full members, plus I was also the drum tech for Jordan on that show, I kinda feel that the line up wasn’t going to last long so I grab the chance to get all my stuff signed, I have picture to prove on my Instagram if you scroll down to that time.
Anyway AILD will forever be one of my biggest influences and favorite bands since I discovered them in my high school years, that’s pre UA-cam age, I went to yahoo music and click on metal/rock genre to see the chart almost everyday, that’s how I found Through Struggle MV and got into the band, thanks for the memory guys, love from Taiwan 🇹🇼
So, i was thinking - you want to say, that it's in some way ever better for Tim to get the whole new aild line up, of a better musicians and personas to keep the machine called as i lay dying go on?
This story is completely irrelevant
@@Angelthetallguy that's what i thought for a second when I first read it
@@Angelthetallguy but why did you thought back then that this line up wouldn't last for a long time? Let's throw out pandemic
@@Angelthetallguy I didn’t ask for your approval though
Chris is going to be the joe rogan of metal!!!
Chris is not an entitled asshole
@@gasmaskestore8018 Neither is Joe lol
@@gasmaskestore8018 chris?
@@gasmaskestore8018 who is Chris?
@@delsi3795 LMAO
This is a real bold interview - respect to Chris Garza
I cried listening to Tim talk about his struggles as a father and his feelings of isolation. Thank you for having him on the pod. Been a fan of As I Lay Dying for as long as they been around.
Garza's comment about being unlovable hit home for me...I'm not the person I used to be and it's hard to get back to a good mindset again to be someone worthy of being loved. I'm surprised my wife hasn't left me already. Sadly I don't know how to change it on my own so perhaps therapy is the solution.
If you get the right therapist you'll be kicking yourself in the ass for not doing it sooner. Make the call.
@@thekraken4886 that’s the problem tho. Finding the right therapist
@@thekraken4886 for fucking real the hardest decisions will CHANGE YOUR LIFE and you shouldn’t dwell on it, don’t give yourself an opportunity to wish you did it earlier get it done
I'm so lucky I don't care what people think
you’ll get there homie. keep pushing.
amazing interview Garza, your for sure not scared to ask deep cutting question, salute 🫡
Absolutely fantastic pod cast. Thank you for bringing Tim on to throughly talk about everything we’ve all wondered for years.
I'm checking out Falling Cycle now, man that band is awesome. I'm surprised I never checked it out before. Definitely early AILD vibes.
oooooh my god I'm so glad for this comment lol they sound hella oldschool!!!!!!! I LOVE IT!!!!
Everyone was cop’n that At the Gates vibe back then, but FC were one of the better more obscure ones to do it
Just looked them up, found an Album, not a single skip on it!
Tim is highly intelligent and thoughtful. Would like to hear him talk more about philosophy.
Not afraid to ask the hard questions. This was a great podcast. Thank you!
Yeah, and also mysoginistic homicidal, great soul
@@Alfredo78666 he served his time and paid his debt to society and learned him his mistakes and changed his ways. Is that not good enough for you?
@@Alfredo78666 Let's hold you accountable for the things you say/do to people during your lowest point, then see if you're man enough to own and try to rectify your mistakes.
@@derivinity THATS FINE WITH ME BECAUSE IVE NEVER TRIED TO KILL SOMEBODY LOL. NICE TRY THO
@@MRPERFECT_79 Aww that's okay sweaty, I forgive you :)
This was a 10/10 podcast man.
I understand people may not like Tim and probably never will. However I think it also shows what kind of people we are if we aren't willing to give someone else a second chance. The man has done his time, has made an effort to help others not go down the same path. You don't have to like the man Tim was, but hopefully one day you can like the man he became.
I just don't see the point in constantly bringing up someone's lowest moment over and over again as if these fans were victims themselves. Why not appreciate that someone who's done prison time and is striving to make amendments and help others, instead of constantly shitting on them?
I hope people like Tim can help inspire other inmates to do the same and find a cause after prison. Cause our system won't.
didnt he try to have his wife murdered?
@@jamesross9724 Yep, but luckily nobody was harmed. He paid his time in prison, and has been working on being a new man. You dont have to like him, but some of us show empathy for someone who has wronged, and is on the right path of life.
He made amends with his ex wife, his band mates and he paid his dues. Why not show compassion to someone who is trying to be a better human being and helping others not do the same thing.
He ain't honorable. He attempted murder. He got caught, and frankly, got off light. He's nothing to admire. Real men don't hurt women, much less try to murder them. He's a pussy, who's earned tits to match.
@@anthonyfrombelowYou are posting a ton of reply comments on this video to everyone who shows even the smallest amount of support for Tim. Don't you have a life to live? Why not just ignore Tim, and pretend he doesn't exist if it offends you so much that people are willing to give him a second chance? Just because people support Tim doesn't mean they don't condone his heinous crime of solicitation to murder his ex-wife. You can be judged for past mistakes, learn, and try to become a better person. Not everyone who does wrong will, but I have witnessed said positive change in my own family as I had someone go through something similar. It took me a long time to accept what my family member did, but eventually I was able to learn acceptance, and spread love. It just takes maturity to understand that everyone makes mistakes some of them more serious than other's. Some of them unforgivable. I personally don't forgive Tim's prior actions, but I do believe that he has made a consistent attempt to change for the better.
I hope that you never do anything that hurts another person physically, mentally, or spiritually because you obviously lack compassion or any ounce of forgiveness regardless of context, reason, or logic. So it wouldn't be paid forward on your end.
@@jamesross9724 Exactly!!!
I love you Tim, I’m glad your back, and I’m sorry for the hurt that your carrying, everyone makes mistakes, but a slim amount recognizes it and makes the effort to change. I hope to meet you some day and give you a huge hug my friend and pit like never before. Thanks for this podcast, it was needed
Did you write to Dahmer?
@@dougleydorite Are you comparing Tim to Dahmer lol??? Pretty LARGE stretch there bud.
@@RonDonValante only in the sense that Dahmer had delusional fans that wrote to him, accepting him for who he is. This guy probably was one of the people that wrote to him
Trying to pay someone to kill your wife isn't a mistake everyone makes lol.
@@theflipper404 mannnn move tf on already lol shit is so old now
Oh shit. After watching this I enjoyed the podcast. Like some of the recent songs and I hope this guy continues to be better.
Great interview, love the respect and feedback Garza gives❤️ it’s a touchy subject, but I believe in 2nd chances as well. AILD will forever be my favorite band, rooting for ya Tim stay strong!🙏🏻💪🏼🤘🏼🔥
This is an incredible conversation. Mad respect to Tim on his growth and understanding and respect for himself and everyone’s opinion on his situation. I’ve done a few things in my life I’m not proud of, horrible things, but I grew through it and remind myself daily to never go back to that place. Tim keep pushing forward. Keep your head up. Great convo Garza.
Yes, I've done many things I'm not proud of as well- but soliciting someone to kill my husband is not one of them. Unbelievable the support this guy is getting.
@@edyann Exactly. I'm surprised I had to scroll this far down to find this comment lol. There's a reason why everyone except Phil left the fucking band. It's obvious that they see through his bullshit and decided they couldn't do it for the money anymore. Like it or not, AILD sells tickets and I'm sure that was the number one reason why they decided to bring him back, because they were all financially fucked. It amazes me how people think that the guy who spent quite some time planning to have his wife snuffed out couldn't just keep on lying and manipulate the narrative and his surroundings in order to keep his career afloat. He's gonna do and say whatever he needs in order to keep the AILD cash cow mooing. And I say all of this as a longtime fan since 2006. It sucks big time, but we seem to be in the minority of people that can't trust this guy anymore.
@@PonchoVonRichtor Hi, Eric. Thank you, exactly. And honestly I had no idea who he was but I saw him on an episode of Corrupt Crimes. No one here is perfect and I fought with my ex many times.. but soliciting someone to kill him never, ever entered my brain. And I searched for this guy on the internet and now he has a new wife, huh. I wouldn't trust him at all. Wow...
Yet another great conversation.
During the incarceration segment it just felt like Chris just wanted to give Tim a big hug
I would've.
This is so cool to hear grown men getting vulnerable and being so open about deep issues. Real life problems and solutions right here. I’ve sent this podcast to a few people that can relate who are in the music industry
@braveheart85 you're kidding right? Tim is a dangerous pos that hides behind religion lol his whole band just left again.
Tim should be a spokesperson for people to heal and he’s real. Love this guy. Thanks for this providing a platform. I’m listening to AILD again big time
This didn't age well
I hope you've learned some lessons about parasocial relationships and why hero worship is a bad thing.
@xravenx24fe damn bro are you paid to demonize this guy or something? You're just going after everyone on here lol. Must have a lot of time on your hands
😂
Uhhhh door whaaaaa??
Love your podcast dude. This was a great episode.
Didn't really know how to feel about Tim moving on with AILD and all that, but your guys conversation really helped me to figure out my feelings about it... if that makes sense.
Keep up the good work Garza!
Tim seems like this super hard dude from the outside but is so emotionally spoken. Very interesting conversation thank you for having him.
11:55-12:00 what he just said right there rings so true!
In the early 00’s I was still into 80’s thrash and 90’s metal. Couldn’t stand any other genre with any sort of extreme vocals. But then for whatever reason. I fell in love wit AILD. And eventually harsh vocals in general. If it wasn’t for AILD. I wouldn’t have ever discovered Metalcore or any other sub-genre that popped up during that time.
Also, hearing what Tim had to say about this new wave of Metalcore and Wage War. I thought that funny. Because I grew up with traditional Metalcore. But I’m really digging this new wave. I’ve listened to yak since Shadows. And know/love both AILD and WW 😂
As a fan this has been a healing interview for myself as well. I didn't know about the video the guys uploaded talking about how they felt and what they've been through and I looked it up because of this interview. When I first saw Tim's name on this episode I was like WTF!? Why are people giving this MF a platform? I was legit never going to forgive Tim and never listen to his music again...but I've found myself listening to their new material and connecting with it. Thank you for this.
Can't wait for Episode 2......
Definitely hit a spot when talking about insurance not covering therapy. That is needed now more than ever in society, and it should not be limited to just “10 visits, then it is on you until next year.” A lot of people really need it. These aren’t bad people, they just need some help from therapists to find out why they do things and how to be able to function properly. I am grateful for therapy, and not ashamed to admit I go. Also, first episode I came upon, you got a new fan! Thanks to you and Tim for taking the time and putting this out🤘🏻😈🤘🏻
My new favorite podcast for sure. You just let the guests speak and be themselves, very refreshing thank you
This band introduced me to metalcore scenes🤘🤘🤘🤘.....
My first metal show , 17 years old . Showcase theatre in Corona CA , Himsa, with honor, as I lay dying , sworn enemy. !
Hell yeah!! That’s a five star lineup
Thanks Chris and Tim for this really awesome listen.
Chris, I'd love to see Alex the Terrible on the show if possible. I know he's worked on his English a lot and given what's happening in Russia/Ukraine, I'd love to hear from him. I'm hoping to see Slaughter to Prevail next month.
As I lay dying were a huge part of my growth when it comes to metal, their earliest material were some of the heaviest at the time and bands like them opened my eyes along with misery signals of how incredible metal was becoming musically.
I’ll throw in a completely unrelated comment; specifically about Chris’ sponsors: EMG pickups are absolutely my favorite pickups as well. I played the 81/85 combo on my old Dean, and I loved them. I hot-rodded my Schecter C1+ with the EMG JH set, and holy shit, that thing turned into a fire breathing beast. #emgpickups are my choice!
Not afraid to go there and keeping it real AF. Only you can do it Garza. 🤘
An ocean between us is my favorite album but I’m listening to all of them SLOWLY I will die happy thanks to AILD
Tim is very well spoken
I know no one will read this most likely but really appreciate the content and honesty.
I read it and think that 👉 is a 🤡
Great Interview Chris..
Much Respect to Tim for owning his mistakes...
AILD are gods to me. Their sound, riffs, breakdowns, vocals are downright filthy! I stand behind you Tim and can’t wait to see you at the intersection july 19th in Grand Rapids Michigan! Wish you could get the originals members back together for that show!
Never think I’d see Tim get that emotional at around 1:01:05…props to him for being able to share the details regarding the ups and downs of his band’s history and his own life here
Great Interview. I think it's time for Tim to finally bury the bad times and memory hole all that stuff. I got to catch AILD in Tucson a while back when this latest tour began and they were great. Good times ahead. Very interested to see what new material AILD decides to put out with the new line-up and even Tim's side projects.
What an awesome conversation! 🙏 props to the courage of Tim and having ability to speak on all of these things. So powerful ❤
Damn I never thought I would see Tim fall apart. Kudos to him for genuinely trying to change. And fuck the haters man. What he did was not okay and nobody should ever do. But you can tell he feels bad about it. And is trying to change.
"Sat there in a cell thinking how did I become this person", I feel that. I went through the same thing. Even now I have a hard time forgiving myself for who I became, and how I have to approach every friendship/work relationship/relationship with the added weight of people finding out what I did and what I went through. I don't want to be known as the ex-con, or guy with a criminal record, and when most people I meet find out that I have a checkered past, they have a hard time believing who I was at that period in my life.
I know how you feel, I too battle with myself daily.
Welcome to consequences of your own actions. Enjoy and stop feeling sorry for yourself, like the people you hurt did.
The first album I was ever introduced to was as I lay dying and it was from my best friend Skyler, Skyler passed away 4 years ago from a drug overdose, one of the last biggest memories I have with him was going to the first shows with Tim out with after the burial, thank you for your honesty tim, this was the podcast I didn’t know i needed to hear
It's absolutely amazing to see Tim's transformation as a guy who has spent most of his childhood and early adulthood in and out of correction facilities my heart goes out to this man
Absolutely LOVED this interview. Very interesting. Thank you a thousand times. Liked and subscribed.
When u was in middle school and as I lay dying had just released frail words collapse I emailed aild website, supposedly Tim ran the email and we would email back and forth a couple of times about life problems. Maybe it was him maybe it wasn't but me thinking it was tim really helped guide me it what I was going through at the time.
Awesome to see you guys having a conversation. Nice work cuz
I really loved this episode. The conversation is so interesting. Tim seems like he genuinely cares about becoming a better person. Congrats to him for finding so much introspection from that time in his life. I hope good things can come his way.
I have some pretty massive respect for this man after watching this. I feel his regret is genuine. With him not being afraid to talk about it. Even after all these years as transparently and honestly as he can shows this. The respect he shows for his former band mates even though they can't put what he did behind them. I hope everything works out for all of them.
Because it's disgusting. If you knew him personally and tried to have one of your sisters killed you think you'd be up to forgiving him yet or is just cause he is like a D level metal celebrity?
@@xkmmx2132 with people like you that are filled with hate and don't know the word ''forgive'' you only would make the things worse, everyone messes up and i'm not defending him but if somebody actually makes the effort to be a better person why not forgive him and gave him a second chance? i think the only one disgusting here is you, you can't always condemn people and not having the intelligence and compassion to forgive if it's necessary you gonna live a sad life living with that resentment and moral superiority
@xkmmx2132 not even a relevant question. They are free to not forgive him. We just gotta forgive him enough to enjoy his music. Not that it's even our place not being at all involved in the sitation to offer forgiveness - he didn't do anything to us.
@@dawa8151just because you're to slow to get it doesn't mean it's not valid. He is a stain.
@@dustyw I'll keep humming that tune too. Tim doesn't deserve to live it down. He deserves to be in prison...
2 years for attempted murder of your life partner is an absolute joke. And so are the people that d ride Tim
First time watching this podcast, easily the heaviest podcast out there hell yeah, Garza becoming a much better podcaster right on
This was great Thx Garza for having Tim AILD is and always will be one of my favorite bands cheers guy's
Its ok to feel however you feel about Tim's past decisions. But I will say, Garza having Tim on is deathcore af! 🤘🏽💪🏽
no it ain't he was gonna pay someone to murder his wife or some shit that's pussy shit
@@prepperandson1399 i don't like what he did i agree wit you on that 100%. But Garza seems like a good dude who had good intentions doing this interview. Not to glorify Tim but just talk about his journey.
@@robowop9354 hell yeah I dig garze but that piece of garbage should still be in prison
@@prepperandson1399
😂😂😂
It’s rare in life to get anyone as genuinely into bands and their music as Garza is. I’m 37 and I’ve only met one person who lived and breathed music like me and unfortunately we don’t talk anymore.
And Tim’s crazy work ethic is what got them signed to Metal Blade. Say what you will but dude ram the band like a manager and took them from a garage to filled venues in Europe.
Garza was so uncomfortable when introing the segment about the incarceration. You can tell from his beating around the bush (understandably so) and his reframing of the context surrounding the delivery. This is a human who has exceptional interpersonal skills and cares deeply for others. If he didn’t, he would have simply asked the question and not cared about the response (whether it was positively or negatively received by Tim).
I have found so much respect for this podcast. God Bless garza.
AILD has had such a major impact on my life both as a teen and as an adult. That impact continues to this day. Also, as a recovering alcholic/addict, Misery Evolving is very relevant and impactful as well. Thanks for this content, Chris and Tim!!! Much love from Ohio!!! 💪
R.I.P. Mitch Lucker
As I Lay Dying is king of metalcore 🤘🏻
I’m glad I grew up on these metalcore years KSE, AILD Unearth etc. so many good songs
This was a great convo! Cheers to you for having Tim on
ooooh very interesting podcast man 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
Im glad i watched this, mad respect for Tim. My sister has torn our family apart with her drug addiction, but can't even own up to the most innocuous things she has done. It's refreshing to see someone so openly and honestly talk about their mistakes and the implications they have on others.
He has no choice, he got caught. You think he would be volunteering this information if he succeeded?
So true, speaking of different era (recording standards and techniques, etc); that's why my threshold is around 2015 now, cuz the sound's changed so much. But (!!) some recordings are out of time regardless, one of those are AILD old albums ❤ for sure, pure classics
Great interview. Much respect.
Heavy interview, best Lambesis one by far.
I like what Tim says about incarceration not being anything therapeutic and it needs to be talked about because if you send someone to prison for 3 or 10 or 20 years even, that person will get out at some point so what has the prison process as a whole done during that time to correct and rehabilitate that persons behavior? Sounds like next to nothing as I don't think fear of going back is enough sometimes (as Tim also stated in reference to gang members)
👏🏻 Couldn’t have said it any better. Our system and the culture of America is to only punish. Problem is, punishing someone doesn’t fix the issue and doesn’t teach them the skills they need to be a better person in society. In fact, for most people it only makes it worse. Without interventions that focus to correct the core issues, it’s just a vicious cycle that can’t be broken. You can hate the crime the person did, have compete disapproval of that person’s choices, but still be a fan of wanting to see them change and grow into someone who helps rather than hurts people.
@@anoceanbetweenus89 people don’t want to fix the issues. It’s easier for most people to kick the problems under the rug and continue to hate others for their mistakes.
Props to Tim for taking accountability and being open about his whole situation. To be fair, I don’t think people necessarily hate him. I believe they’re just hurt and disappointed for what he did.
I’ve seen firsthand that Tim is the real deal. We have a mutual friend that is an insane drummer, awesome father, but spiraled back into drug addiction when his ex used our disgusting system to rip his daughter away from him. Tim was right there, right away, sending him care packages and providing support. From what I’ve seen, he’s the real deal.
except for the whole hiring a hitman thing
Nice comment, Tim.🙄
94 hours got me into the metal sound for sure I’m high school.
You should do an interview with CJ McMahon from Thy Art Is Murder. That would be some great content. Or even Alex Terrible would be a good episode also.
This was a captivating piece in itself. Digging the channel
I would love to see CJ
Alex Terrible, I'd love to know why he got a fake scar on his face
Took me a while to listen to this one but man, so glad I did. Tim is a great example of how someone acts and sounds when they have truly reckoned with their darkest moments: humbled, grateful, compassionate. Tim is a great example of how one can move a life forward while still taking ownership of some truly awful choices. I wish him the best. Thanks Garza for this opportunity.
The crossover thing is the fact you can understand what he says when he screams
AILD is on fire while Tim is on it. Love his other projects as well. Keep it up 🔥🤘🎸🖤
Rip Trevor. BDM wiped the stage with every other band i ever saw them with. Every time.
My favourite live performance by far is still when Tim did wake up with you guys at the memorial show 🙏🤘❤️🖤
😈🔥🔥another great podcast
I like Tim, he seems like a really smart guy