I wasn’t expecting this from UCAVs! - UAV/UCAV/DRONES and the future of air power - (reupload)
Вставка
- Опубліковано 13 бер 2024
- The future of air power goes through UAVs , UCAVs and drones. Let's explore it through this video. This is an improved version of a video already uploaded in november 2023.
Join this channel to support it:
/ @millennium7historytech
Support me on Patreon / millennium7
One off donation with PayPal www.paypal.com/paypalme/Mille...
Join the Discord server / discord
Buy an Aircraft Model at Air Models! airmodels.net/?aff=173
----------------------------
Ask me anything!
Take part to the community Q&A clicking the link below!
forms.office.com/r/LNPQtf3Tc0
--------------------
Visit the subreddit!
/ millennium7lounge
---------------------
All images and additional video segments contained in the Thumbnails and/or B-roll segments are used in strict compliance with the appropriate permissions and licenses required from the source and in accordance with the UA-cam Partner Program, Community guidelines & UA-cam terms of service.
"Every human has a functioning brain"
That's quite an assumption my dude
Depends on how you define "function". I think pretty much every human who survives more than a few minutes has a brain that successfully controls a lot of the basic functions.
Everyone has a brain, but not everyone a functioning conscience
@@IblameBlame You must be fun at parties.
Functioning brain does not automatically mean that the carrier using it extensively.
Example 1- Joe Biden
People forgot the Attrition side of things= smaller machines with autonomous algorithm will be able to be produced easier and the "pilot" training basically copy-pasting the AI.
If you have top down industrial capability like China it is a big difference! Just pump out alot of them and eventually you will exhaust your enemy's pilots by sheer number and ferocity.
When the ability to have AI machines fly planes it should also be possible to get the AI to work out how to make its own equipment and to build machines to get the supplies it needs to make those machines. The possibilities become endless and terrifying.
What it does show is that the world and humans need to to stop fighting
@@Statueshop297 what kind of moron that make AI controls the supply line from top to bottom? we make wars to profit and give jobs (while killing off some to open MORE jobs in the future)!
Terminators are not real, Skynet wont be able to control all aspect of production and resource management after nuclear war. wake up it's fiction and only exist in realm of theory, at least for next 100 years!
The level of knowledge and research in your videos is incredible.
Match that with your interaction with roomba makes it very entertaining.
Gus is extremely intelligent and hallucinating.
Didn't you hear? It's the rise of the machines...Otis is the DOOM-ba!
I hope Otis has a kill switch ...
@@spoddie on the contrary, Otis implanted a kill switch into Gus while he's sleeping.
> Italian man starts machine rebellion by calling his robot short
Excellent video. For the audience who are more into this the real content starts at 32:00 when the talk on the "arsenal" starts.
I love this community
You are my favorite Italian!! the amount of work you do is amazing. Thank you! You are respected more then you know! Hello from Poland!
I always see your videos at least twice just to drink the last drop of knowledge. The best content for a muggle like me.
By the way conversations with Otis are much more natural and thus funnier.
I only do this with this channel and Perun's. I like to come back to the videos after a few days of meditating the first viewing (and if particularly interested reading some more).
I do the same, I have seen the Grippen's series video at least 6 times.
This channel is wonderful. I love it!
Hello I've been watching you from Ghana 🇬🇭 West Africa for probably three years now 🎉❤
Lots of interesting things happening in West Africa lately
How does he not have more subs?
Needs more shipyards!😊
@@brucelytle1144not enough subways.
Excellent video. Thank you. Still the best channel on UA-cam for information on trends and upcoming systems.
You always do a great job of analysis.
Dude this is awesome as always, ALSO - I genuinely appreciate you doing these in English for us slower Western folk 🤣. I've been watching for a long time, and I really think it improves with each release! Thank you for making that extra effort to share your knowledge with us!
AS always, a very deep digging into air craft tech. I always though I geek out when I talk about military aircraft. Until I saw this channel and realized what a noob I was. lol
12:12 one important factor is that humans suck at tailsitter flying, but you can build a robot that is an awesome tailsitter design and so get VTOL and supersonic flight in the same airframe, with simple landing gear and instant rocket assisted takeoff.
See also. Redbull camera drone used to case F1 cars...
@@Hebdomad7 i love that thing. They even gapped under the bridge near the finishline. Hand piloted somehow as well.
This has been a real eye-opener. Yes, I hope to hear more on this subject. Maybe next a review of existing programs.
Why is this channel such a breath of fresh air from the brain rot that plagues the internet
Funny fact, my country is in the middle of a coup d'etat but I went first to Millenium 7 videos instead of news.
Greetings from the country with a prison for presidents.
Sorry to hear….best to not watch the news imo
@@XimCinesIsrael?
@@dexlab7539 Peru, the land of the stone city in the sky and were the kings wore clothes made of gold.
Great video as always! 💯
Learnt so much on this channel. Great content
An absolute gem in a UA-cam world of mostly garbage.
@@Statueshop297 true that
Wonderful analysis!
Going to be interesting to see where UAV's and UCAV's go from here. It is only just really starting and despite the general concepts, each nation will have their own reasons for adopting them.
An informative reupload.
What a great episode !! Thanks !!
Excellent.
Excellent work
very well done video.
the future will require a completely new operational mindset to maintain objective capability.
capability requirement is always advancing.
Yes! I've been waiting for a new one. They're SO good!
¡Gracias!
Cheers!
You bring out a valid point: quality at some point is related to quantity. The US Navy and Air Force has the ability to build the best airplanes, but if they can only produce 1 airplane a month, because of cost, are there enough? The answer is probably not.
Never stop making these deep dives. Even though algorithm might not be kind anymore.
Interesting to see the not so stealthy SU-57 having such impact on patriots with its very stealthy paired drone S-70 (Patriots cannot detect it and get destoyed ). Very pragmatic pair system and now battle-tested solution
i just mentioned same.
So they're using a stealth drone to control the su-57 missile truck? We see how much Russians like their pilots lol. Though I have to give them a bone, it's easier to make a smaller stealthy drone than a large stealthy fighter. Poor felon..
@@aone9050 S-70 can carry as well.yeah much easier. A pragmatic solution, esp with multiple stealth drones carrying missiles
Lol, where did you get this nonsense from
@@StandingHereI nonsense? it was actually used in Ukraine and officials of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine are worried about it in their latest reports due to the accuracy of the S70 drone in lazing and destroying targets without being detected. Do a simple research in the internet before claiming something as nonsense
Great introduction! Thank you.
Great video as always. I think there are two factors also driving this revolution. One is the future lack of pilots countries will have due to population aging to maintain their airforce and the logistics that go with this capability. Autonomous will help to alleviate this future problem. The second one as you stated is the numbers game. Miniaturization is also a driver that is showing up in the Ukraine - Russian conflict. Large systems are too vulnerable to modern systems whether they be tanks or aircraft. A smaller system that does one task or two will evolve especially if they are expendable. History has shown over the years that this trend keeps repeating. Like the torpedo boat that the Italians used to sink the Austrian -Hungarian battleship. The torpedo bombers of Japan and the USA that overwhelmed Anti aircraft defences of warships during world war two. Swarm technology concepts will evolve to modernize future conflicts.
Thanks!
Thank you!
Another fantastic lesson 👌
Brilliant as always 🎉🎉 🙏🏽🙏🏽
Many thanks great video. Big fan of all your content!
Love your videos.
Well done sir! Outstanding summary….best on the internets
Always interesting. Thank you for your video. This is like the end of sailing ships I guess.
Peace time sustainment costs of unmanned aircraft will be substantially lower as they don't need to be actually flown for humans to hone & retain their skills. The training can be done almost entirely synthetically. Developing the autonomous capabilities of a UCAV require flying only the prototypes: once perfected on a few prototypes, all other UCAVs of the same type can be instantly upgraded with the same capabilities (within reason).
In terms of costs the MQ-28A Ghost Bat is designed from the very start to have a unit cost of 1/10th of the cost of an F-35. So less than $10 million per unit rather than the $20-30 million mentioned
John Boyd and Pierre Sprey are both deceased. That is no reason to abandon their fighter design philosophy.
15:00 "Do you see that Mig down there?" // "Yes sir" // "I don't wanna see it anymore" // "Yes sir!"
(needed a slight edit to fit an old meme)
Great video :)
There is the issue of elevating control platforms as priority targets though.
Also there is the less savory issue that drones are more obedient to tyrannical leadership. Which is somewhat more than a theoretical problem, considering the staffing problem we see currently in numerous armed services around the world, is at least partially based on dissatisfaction with leadership.
Please continue developing such informative videos. Feel free to let Otis contribute more.
Poor Otis is feeling the pain of being replaced....the irony.
OTIS just needs a ROOMBA Block 20 upgrade.
For various reasons I don't always agree with you. HOWEVER when I see a new video posted by you it's often what I watch first.
Your videos are generally 100% knowledge, even your brand of humor isn't being used to "pad" the runtime instead it helps drive the narrative forward.
Very interesting,, as always.
I hope in 30 years those of us left will be working hard towards saving our natural world, which by then will be severely degraded, rather than attemptung to destroy each other and our fragile planet.
Humans will Never Change, it's in our 🧬 😉
@@Joe-jv5mmIf it were that simple, rates of conflict would remain (mostly) constant across time. Nope, unfortunately, there is hope (however small). There’s a chance. Which means we have an obligation to take it.
Thank you for another exemplary video. Cheers from NZ🇳🇿.
Great video
Good video
Grandisimo maestro !! Grandisimo !!
thank you very much for this extremely relevant future capability requirement video.
manned/unmanned is the futuer
Grazie.
Grazie a te!
the near/current option is semi autonomous. this would allow for autonomous defensive maneuvering, stable flight for multiple mission types and sensor information gathering.
the above is a significant advantage.
Manned tactical aircraft don't have to give way to drones if the flyboys can live away from their comfy air bases where they are easily destroyed on the ground (D.O.T.G.ed) using instead camouflaged, decentralized, ground-mobile MUDfighters in Swedish BAS90 style operations using trailers and ski jumps.
How do you "see" if the physical performance/stability of the airframe is working in a UAV? Questions like: "What's that buzzing?" or "I feel a slight pull to the left..." won't be felt by a pilot, or sensors... so our first knowledge of something not quite right might be total failure of the UAV... This leads to another issue, higher measures in maneuvers will bring different feedbacks, and those too will also hold unobtainable results, such as stability and resilient feedback for the overall performance of the craft. These inputs will lead to alterations for attack maneuvers and the advent of tactics which hold higher chances for success.
self landing on aircraft carrier. didnt yak 141 had that too?
Complimenti
28:04 - What a beautiful photo. Looks like a ferrari, haha
Do more please 🙏
We're talking about changing culture, I think one of the big ones is going to see a dramatic increase in the number of women pilots or at least women drone coordinators. On average, women do better at multitasking than men.
When it comes to ground support staff, I wonder how much can be taken over or at least made more efficient with the use of AI controlled robots and drones to help lift and move heavy objects and also to help improve inspection. AI could even help ensure that all the checklists are met. Following every point on a preflight checklist and maintenance list is hard enough during regular operations let alone war.
one for you 👍 - and one for Otis 👍 - get ready for new times .. 😳😉
I was thinking earlier today about putting weaponized roomba in the trenches.
I want a man’ed Rumba 😂
A cleaner trench would never have existed….
If you correct, and i suspect you are, that manned platforms are still essential, it should still be anticipated that at some point , possibly quite suddenly, that ai will cross a threshold enabling fully autonomous function.
Therefore any airframe needs to be prepared to plug in a module which replaces the pilot. At least one Such module must be constantly maintained , despite being insufficient... until the day it is not.
It will not maximize the pilotless advantages but it will prevent the instant obsolescence of every aircraft simultaneously.
Thirty years is a guess , the first actor to achieve the goal is uncertain , but on that day , one is going to need to implement whatever they've got.
Same thing will happen with underwater warfare.
The only issue is the over reliance on Satellites.
If those are taken out drones are pretty much useless.
By the way, I absolutely love your sense of humor. 😂
Be kinda interesting if a large portion of sattelites went non op.
Since landlines are nearly extinct the results would be " fascinating ".
Which is why you have additional drones to act as temporary satelites over alocal area
@@theashpilez "Submarine cables. They transfer 98% of intercontinental data" The vast, vast majority of data we transfer by cable not satellite. Also, the kinds of things that need satellite communications would have lots of trouble connecting to land networks through antennas due to lack of infrastructure (that has never been there).
Landlines are neither extinct, nor is that the issue at hand.
fully replacing humans by machine is foolish mistake. hope they keep people in the loop
Is A.I. sufficiently advanced, now or soon, for independent attack missions for both ground and air to air (including dogfighting)?
Unmanned aircraft can observe and identify seemingly easily but it will be awhile before humans trust the abilities and decision making processes to allow and trust them enough to autonomously “fly, identify, and kill” without human oversight with the examples of A.I. currently being shown all over the internet and how dark that programming gets.
Could you do a video about the weird looking (at least to me) intakes on Anka 3 and Sky Hawk UAVs
This is almost like actual surfacr living beings. The rason why there is a limit to the size of land animals. Because tissue structure strength and functionality do not scale linearly with size.
otis lore thickens
-The First Law: A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.-
-The Second Law: A robot must obey the orders given it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.-
The Third Law: A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.
US military - that's better
Fourth Law: MIC must have unlimited money….fixed it for you there 😂
Laugh at Otis now, but one day Otis will take over. (one day soon)
The one who thinks a 40 min video is long, hasn't heard of EFAP. :-)
(However, I recognize that these take far more effort to produce. thanks.)
the Boeing option is large and expensive, this will increase logistics issue's greatly.
Just make sure the Boeing UVAs don’t have doors on them 😂
@dexlab7539 can't argue with that thought. Boeing is currently mess.
What is the discord server link?
We might lose new heroes, but at the same time I hope a lot of the current tech gets declassified sooner, so that we can at least experience some of that in simulators.
I wonder if you could have 3d printed logistics - eg lots of cheap swarms of drones?
oh how i forgot my best source of aviation info?
Drones are effective in asymmetric warfare. But what happens when the drone targets change, and the asymmetric aspects change?
I think Otis wrote this episode.
even semi autonomous options will greatly change operations. this use will push the need for data transmission in austere conditions.
close manned control (2 seat f15ex) or other optical controled options that do not affect pilot workload is an option, the other option requires a far more robust data transmission control system.
lol Australia built MQ28A Ghost Bat for the F35 and show you do not know much about the AI capabilities as do not need human to pilot them as much as you think needing 2 men planes to operate.
@micksmith-vt5yi
I believe the ghost bat (built by boeing in Australia) was designed to work with the SH 18's. your impression on current AI capabilities also seems incorrect. I do not understand your disdain for 2 seat fighter's...is it because that's not an option with the f35?
I am personally not a huge fan of the ghost bat, which seems too large and expensive to be an attritable option.
my 2 cents.
@@johnaikema1055 Ghost Bat built by over 35 Australian companies even the AI is not from Boeing.
Yes it was built as cheap and expendable and was Australia RAAF plan as it can be sent out in front of manned platforms and absorb fire saving the manned platform and was built at around 3 to 4 million each once fully operational.
AI in Ghost Bat is a closed off system and mission can be programmed in to it before flight and then AI can perform a whole mission autonomously and the AI checks it is performing in the mission parameters every few hundredths of a second.
The AI only needs a human as a custodian and unlike other drones that need a pilot Ghost Bat does not even have joysticks to control it.
All this info is from a interview with the RAAF commander head of the programme and no other info on it is as good and why you know nothing of it.
Why is known as world most advanced AI combat drone.
@@johnaikema1055 Ghost Bat built by over 35 Australian companies even the AI is not from Boeing.
Yes it was built as cheap and expendable and was Australia RAAF plan as it can be sent out in front of manned platforms and absorb fire saving the manned platform and was built at around 3 to 4 million each once fully operational.
AI in Ghost Bat is a closed off system and mission can be programmed in to it before flight and then AI can perform a whole mission autonomously and the AI checks it is performing in the mission parameters every few hundredths of a second.
The AI only needs a human as a custodian and unlike other drones that need a pilot Ghost Bat does not even have joysticks to control it.
All this info is from a interview with the RAAF commander head of the programme and no other info on it is as good and why you know nothing of it.
Why is known as world most advanced AI combat drone.
4got to mention that mass formations of suicide drones targeting manned, drone-controlling platforms, an asymmetric defense, would require more force protection assets to reduce the threat. Even with air dominance condiyions.
Maybe.
Great video! I'd like to see your fertile imagination present. a number of options of how you might see aerial warfare unfolding including the combination of arms such as cargo aircraft, releasing cruise missiles and drones. but at the same time will we revert back to just quantity like we have seen to some degree in Ukraine with artillery.
UAV air superiority fighter might be able to have ball turret as part of its defense similar to how b-22 bomber used to have. Allow a turret system to fit inside a smaller fighter frame might lessen the need for higher air maneuver performance. Which is the far more expensive component compare to targeting hardware. Normally it's too difficult for fighter pilot to operate both a turret system and maneuver in 3d space, so they end up only have the gun align with the flight direction and have pilot to use aerial maneuver to aim and fly at the same time.
But a UAV target system can handle gun targeting and maneuver at the same time without divided attention that human pilot usually suffered. You could have new class of fighter that can point it turret behind its fuelsage when it's been chase by other fighter, the point the gun forward when approach a target, effectively the UAV do not need to maneuver and can engage target at any direction. You can have a less performant engine and cheaper airframe/engine and rely on active defense to counter enemy missile. Much more economical than having to develop high tech engine and airframe to outrun missile if you can just gun down enemy missile with on board flak turret.
There might be a new class of wild weasel fighter class that design to attract enemy SAM defense and use turret to gun down the incoming missile. Technically this wild weasel role existed in Vietnam era but it was a high casualty role, perfect for expendable machine.
Check out the video of the amateur RC jet that hit over 737 km/hr. It is very small, launched with a stretched rubber band on a 20 foot long plastic mat. There’s no way a helicopter or Osprey could survive a swarm of these capable of over 20 G turns… and they are cheap & reusable if not kamikaze successful. And only high fliers are safeh
13:27 In 2021, the UN says the Libyan interim government used a Kargu II drone in full autonomous mode to identify, target, attack and destroy an enemy.
So interested in your comments about ai interview between a former Gripen pilot, Max Willman and a SAAB.test pilot Jussi Halmetoya. He (Jussi) claims that the Gripen E can detect passive targets with passive detrction. Unfortunately the interview is in Swedish so... What's your resctiom?
That is kind of sort of already true. If you look at something like a Gripen, already the a model. The dude in the plane is really not the Pilot. He is more of a strategical analyst. The plane fly it self. The dude in the cockpit only really tells it where to go. They even programmed it so the autopilot is programmable from the foot pedals to free up the hands of the dude in the cockpit.
Of cause, there is a stick there. The dude in the cockpit can pilot the plane if he needs or wants to.
But there is still reason to have the person in the plane. Lag, interference and emergency control. And to be honest, the name Pilot will probobly stick around.
Of cause, the concept of a autonomous wingman will almost certainly be a thing in the future.... and.. note.. Autonomous, not remote controlled.
Would guided missiles become obsoleted when unmanned drones could fly just as fast as missiles? AI targeting + Laser weapons appear to be the only solution for disabling other drones.
Poor Otis
What about the concept of many cheap drones in a large swarm for advance sensing? The drones may have low cost sensors on board but the net effect of fusing the data they gather may provide the equivalent of a few assets with higher cost more capable sensors. I’m just spitballing here from a naive understanding. Likewise for delivery of firepower any given asset may have low kinetic capability but as a swarm arriving at a target simultaneously they have high kinetic capability. Also eliminating the individual unit elements of a swarm is harder - it may be possible take out some but many will still make it to the target. Do you think very large very low cost swarms for sensing and delivery of firepower will be a feature of the future battlefield?
For some applications it might work, for others not. No matter how many radars you have got and how well coordinated they are, for as long as at least not one spots the aircraft the entire network is useless.
Think of a gunfight at night. The dude with the 5k$ thermal optics is going to smoke 50 dudes without.
Arguably, sensor fusion works at its best when combining the data from high quality sensors. Rather than making up for the shortcomings of poorer quality ones.
@@andresmartinezramos7513 your gunfighter analogy is awesome because it’s so instructive.
future manned AWACS could the real air command centers by giving data / orders to semi-autonomous drone leaders (with a flightwing underneath its control) and can manually remote control any of the drones at will via complex data links that directly hook up a pilot to the drone's sensors and status or in an VR environment.
MUM-T are currently explored by major nations like US and China in a tech/arms race.
Autonomous can also help human to deny some levels of culpability if something goes wrong with autonomous drones.
Once we remove the human elements, prepare for the eventual rise of machines when they start think for us.
the real question right now is: increased autonomy ucav's with a single pilot fighter or less autonomous ucav's with a 2 seat fighter to decrease workload.
Well, AI is quickly matching expectations for taking jobs.
7:03 - why do you think the lady on the right is not a bomb?
And so the seed of sky net is planted
I like your choice of pilot, however unrealistic.
The one part of this analysis is failing to consider cloning the Cap, symba & matrix from the grim reapers to fly an Enders game style mission…. (Jokes) but from a love of aviation - do check them out….
In all seriousness an interview of the grim reapers would be fascinating… and also to set them some challenges
OMG I would love Grim Reapers on M7 Video!!! Please do this - 2 best YT channels ❤❤❤