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  • @ABCScience
    @ABCScience  3 місяці тому

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  • @TheWulf899
    @TheWulf899 Рік тому +57

    You can moderate the dominance of noisy mynahs by encouraging other bird species to move in and bully out the mynahs, ones that are territorial but don't engage in mobbing that often.
    My family home was once mynah dominated, however after a heatwave we left out a bowl of water and hung up a block of wild bird seed.
    Some rainbow lorikeets settled in the area and started a family, and as they're larger, bullied the mynahs; not enough for them to leave permanently but enough for them to keep away from the verandah most of the day and in smaller numbers when any other bird was around.
    The bird seed also encouraged Eastern Rosellas and King parrots among other birds, and with the Mynahs being present in smaller numbers, the Rosellas actually bullied them away from time to time.
    Rainbow Lorikeets seem to be great at keeping mynahs in their place within moderation, as they will only bully if the mynahs encroach on their food source when they're eating. Simultaneously, the presence of seed attracts other seed-eating birds, who can feed outside the times Lorikeets are feeding.

    • @attilaabonyi8879
      @attilaabonyi8879 6 місяців тому

      Interesting...
      Something to keep in mind when it comes to conservation

    • @TheWulf899
      @TheWulf899 6 місяців тому

      @@attilaabonyi8879 rainbow lorikeets are a great example

    • @EresirThe1st
      @EresirThe1st 4 місяці тому

      Unfortunately, lorikeets are even noisier

    • @PhK27
      @PhK27 3 місяці тому

      thoughtful alternative. Thank you.
      While there are others in Australia who euthanize Mynahs because they are noisy, and as if Humans have all the right to kill and poison others species with the support of self-made laws

  • @liam3284
    @liam3284 Рік тому +198

    Had some miners in an old workplace that declared war on their reflection. One would see the window, alarm call goes up, entire mob arrive, only to be met by equal numbers in mirror.

    • @ryanokeefe12
      @ryanokeefe12 10 місяців тому +10

      Who won?

    • @BlahBohogun
      @BlahBohogun 6 місяців тому +20

      The window repair/replacement guy.

  • @philip4193
    @philip4193 7 місяців тому +8

    It's not just the small birds either; I live near a bush reserve & parkland and have seen large gangs of them swoop, harass & chase-off not only Magpies & Currawongs, but even Crows, Sulphur-crested Cockatoos and Kookaburras.

  • @dieseldavetrains8988
    @dieseldavetrains8988 Рік тому +12

    I have their cousins in my yard the Yellow Throated Miner, and they not as aggressive. Pity the Noisy Miner doesn't focus its attention to the Indian Mynah, an introduced and very obnoxious bird which have spread across eastern Australia.

    • @blakearius
      @blakearius Рік тому +4

      Normal miners are unbelievable obnoxious compared to the indian varient.. but i heard the Indian variant will displace native nesting sites of other birds.

  • @dawsie
    @dawsie 2 роки тому +19

    I am very lucky my noisy miners live along side the birds around me but then I live on the outskirts of a very small town and I planted some very bushy bushes for the smaller birds my biggest problem is the Indian Miner Bird when I moved here 12 years ago there were no Indian Miner Birds in the area at all but I noticed over a period of 5 years of driving between Sydney and the home I now live in I noticed the encroachment of the Indian Miner Birds spreading along the highway and the back roads little by little now 12 years we have over 30 plus Indian Miner Birds just in our part of town alone.

    • @rossmcleod7983
      @rossmcleod7983 2 роки тому +1

      Nah the Indian Minah is positively benign compared to these monstrous native thugs. The Noisy Miner needs to be culled if we want some birdy balance bought back into our lives.

    • @BirdBath1
      @BirdBath1 2 роки тому

      Angela, look at bird bath

    • @tempestgrav
      @tempestgrav 2 роки тому +2

      Check with your local authority, council or Dept of Ag as they are not a protected species and humane trapping and euthanasia may be allowed.
      Good luck.

    • @zzodysseuszz
      @zzodysseuszz 2 роки тому +4

      They killed my pet birds that flew away into a tree. They’re the fucken worst birds ever

    • @BirdBath1
      @BirdBath1 2 роки тому

      @@zzodysseuszz look at bird bath

  • @TheLaughingDove
    @TheLaughingDove 2 роки тому +10

    They can't harass the smaller birds if the habitat is right! Everywhere I've gone that actually has dense understory is packed with small birds, but the urban parkland prioritise grass and visibility over good habitat. Noisy miners are clever, social, adaptable birds and they're much more personable than people realise, because we made the situation that makes them so out of balance.
    Out of curiosity, is the lerp maintainence intentional? It reminds me of ants farming aphids for honeydew

  • @antonychipman3088
    @antonychipman3088 Рік тому +1

    This report is brilliantly aligned with a certain part of Australia, who are currently transforming an old golf course, that happens to also be a noisy miner dominion… called Rosny Park.

  • @M3au
    @M3au Рік тому +6

    The noisy miner is a great example of why native is not always the most desirable inhabitant of an ecosystem

    • @oodleyboo
      @oodleyboo Рік тому

      Not native, they were introduced

    • @M3au
      @M3au Рік тому +2

      @@oodleyboo Not introduced, they are native to Australia. You may be thinking of the Indian Myna, which is an introduced species.

    • @Lyrxial
      @Lyrxial 9 місяців тому

      @@oodleyboothe brown one is introduced. These guys are native, it clearly stated at the beginning of the video

  • @blakearius
    @blakearius Рік тому +2

    My current area has chill ones but the ones in Chatswood hounded me every dog walk for 3 years, even when I didn't have the dog. Even after I returned a fallen chick to its tree. I hate that family of birds so much.

  • @slayorcs
    @slayorcs 10 місяців тому +3

    Don't blame the birds. We clear vast tracks of native habitat and continue to do so despite knowing the impact this has on species and ecological processes. I have a layered native garden that allows all birds including miners to live together in my garden. Same argument for the bell miners too. It's our actions that are to blame for the imbalance.

  • @dewfall56
    @dewfall56 6 місяців тому +3

    The best part of the video was seeing another damned golf course reclaimed for real nature.

  • @barry7608
    @barry7608 Рік тому +1

    I have a 2/3 acre property just north of Sydney, this backs onto several hundred acres of wetland. I have been an ardent bird watcher and protector since buying this property 45 years ago. I have planted many native trees being several species of Lilly Pilly, many types of Gravillia, Bottle brush and other natives + 4 species of large 14m eucalypt and tea tree. Thing is I also have 4 species of large timber bamboo and 6 species of small and intermediate bamboos all being of the clumping variety. In this mix are two very large 14m Liquid ambers. Not to mention Alexander and Bangalow palms. What I want to say is the exotics have played a pivotal roll in bringing in so much wildlife into my property. The liquid ambers provide a huge food reserve for Crested pigeons, Bronze wings, Galah, Sulphur crested, Corellas, Brushtailed possums, and the bamboo provides massive cover for the numerous small birds such as Red tailed fire brows, Yellow robins, Grey wagtails Whip birds and Satin bower birds and several others I've yet to identify. Its the bamboo that has had such a sudden and obvious impact and I think sometimes we need to add exotics of the right type such as these even if just until the real natives 'thicken up' and establish. One of my large bamboos had no less than 4 'small bird' nests and the others are frequently visited by many small birds taking advantage of the dense shelter. Our honey eaters are the Lewyn, Yellow cheeked, Blue faced, Eastern spine bill, Brush wattle bird and of course the Noisey minors and thankfully all seem in a balance due to the large amount of hideouts. Just a thought..

    • @H31MU7
      @H31MU7 Рік тому

      best way to go. plant native plants, get native animals. I got no problem with the miners. Mynas on the other hand... they don't fare so well 😂

  • @kegs666
    @kegs666 Рік тому +1

    Birds: peck it
    Humans: bomb it.

  • @Gungho1a
    @Gungho1a Рік тому

    I back onto a creek in Adelaide, that is a nexus point for birds in the neighborhood. I haven't seen territorial swooping on smaller birds, but I have seen it on crows, falcon and hawks. These local miners would bomb my rottweiler when I walked her, totally ignoring me. She would jump at them, and after years of seeing it I came to the conclusion that it became something of a game for a couple of the miners, rather than a communal defensive act.

  • @anthonykarakostas6429
    @anthonykarakostas6429 3 місяці тому

    I love birds and parrot and I cached a baby noisy miner it had a broken wing I have seen noisy miner attack magpies

  • @Conn30Mtenor
    @Conn30Mtenor Рік тому

    There's a pack of them near my office in Alice Springs. I've seen them chase ravens three times their size.

  • @philippegoriaux6760
    @philippegoriaux6760 Рік тому +3

    I love the noisy minors and their team work ... this video does not take into account that the birds dont stay passive when chassed by others .. They will run away .. I have many noisy minor in my garden sharing space with other birds. The problem is this park is too open and not bushy enough to protect the small species of birds.

  • @Kayenne54
    @Kayenne54 2 роки тому +11

    Noisy miners let all the other birds know about airborne predators. They also let everyone know about cats, snakes, dogs, humans, lizards or anything else that is "out of order". Bellbirds drive other birds out of the rainforests. Apostle birds harass cats and sometimes even dogs and form mobs to frighten off more timid birds. Currawongs will hunt smaller birds to death. Kookaburras eat other bird young. Ravens and crows will torment at risk birds and tire them out, contributing to dinner later. This video sounds like a witch hunt. What about cuckoos? They straight up throw the young/or eggs of other birds out, and take over the nest with their own, tricking the former parents of the murdered chick into raising their own, and then keep you awake all night with their call. If we cause the imbalance, then it's all on us.

    • @stephenw2992
      @stephenw2992 2 роки тому +2

      Those New Holland Honeyeaters they show in the video do the same thing as those miners to Eastern Spinebills in my garden. They still sneak around and get a feed though. People think nature is like what they see in Disney cartoons.

    • @Kayenne54
      @Kayenne54 2 роки тому +1

      @@stephenw2992 Exactly. Someone related a story once of seeing clouds of beautiful butterflies alighted on the corpse of a dead cow. Gathering moisture/blood. Male ducks can drown females in their quest to mate. People stand at the picture window and say "How beautiful Nature is" but forget that injury in nature likely means death, so getting beaten up and pecked by a rival bird species could be the end of that bird, regardless if it flies away. But that's just how it goes.

    • @stephenw2992
      @stephenw2992 2 роки тому +2

      @Cas Rich The academics say everything is ruining the biodiversity, its how they earn a living

    • @murph_mustela
      @murph_mustela 2 роки тому +2

      Noisy miners are an important part of the ecosystem but the problem is that there are too many of them now. Their numbers have increased far beyond what is natural because we have replaced virgin ecosystems with those that benefit the miners most. So now smaller bird species are struggling more than they naturally would be. That's why we need to possibly cull them and also plant more sheltering, dense shrubbery (which used to exist but was cleared for parks etc.)
      It's a bit like the deer in Yellowstone. They are native but because the wolves were gone their numbers increased beyond what was natural and they were damaging the landscape and native plants.

  • @neilhamill318
    @neilhamill318 2 роки тому +7

    Protecting their home's and families from invaders What do you expect them to do.

    • @neilhamill318
      @neilhamill318 2 роки тому

      @Cas Rich So you pretend to know the mindset of the noisy miner say they want one hundred percent. 😆 They get along fine with magpies both native bird's. Get ride of the introduced bird's that will leave more room for the other's

    • @Plethora_of_Paucity
      @Plethora_of_Paucity Рік тому

      @@neilhamill318 Stay inside and lock their doors. They should be safe from pardalotes there.

    • @neilhamill318
      @neilhamill318 Рік тому

      @@Plethora_of_Paucity bird's tend to not have any doors to Lock on their nests. WTF

    • @Plethora_of_Paucity
      @Plethora_of_Paucity Рік тому

      @@neilhamill318 You claim the miners are protecting their homes from invaders, when in fact Neil, it’s the miners that are the antagonists. No birds are invading their nests. WTF backatcha.

    • @neilhamill318
      @neilhamill318 Рік тому

      @@Plethora_of_Paucity Any bird that isn't native is an invader

  • @johncartwright4041
    @johncartwright4041 10 місяців тому

    Noisy Miners also swoop: attacking from behind like magpies.

  • @robsmith6087
    @robsmith6087 Рік тому

    are they introduced ?

  • @Lyrxial
    @Lyrxial 9 місяців тому

    Wow I didn’t know noisy miners were native. I thought they were introduced because they look similar to the brown one

  • @michellemaher6144
    @michellemaher6144 2 роки тому +2

    The Noisy Miner is an awesome little bird.
    No Indian Mynas in our area.

    • @BirdBath1
      @BirdBath1 2 роки тому

      Michelle Maher, look at bird bath

  • @idjles
    @idjles Рік тому

    I’ve saw them terrorize cats in Melbourne in 1994.

  • @rcj6099
    @rcj6099 Рік тому

    Not to be pedantic, but at 5:23 that would be 'slivers of green'; slithers belong to snakes. But love your work.

  • @siiiriously3226
    @siiiriously3226 10 місяців тому +1

    Somehoe I am very convinved, that the aggro-birds are behaving like this, because of human interention. lack of proper habitat, scarcity of habitat all together....

    • @malcontender6319
      @malcontender6319 6 місяців тому

      Yeah, yeah. it's *all* our fault, you just *KNOW* it!!!

  • @edwardwaters3476
    @edwardwaters3476 Рік тому +2

    It might sound cruel but we need a culling program to bring there numbers back to where they should be

  • @MartintheTinman
    @MartintheTinman Рік тому +1

    It's our fault they're like that.
    They're just better at surviving in the environment that we've created

  • @DyIzzLive
    @DyIzzLive Рік тому

    Hi 4:57

  • @marinus86
    @marinus86 2 роки тому +13

    Well, it is not really that the Noisy Miner’s are bad. It is humans who create an unsuitable environment. I’m not sure it is a healthy perspective to demonize those birds. Hopefully this video will lead to more bushes and shrubbery being planted than Noisy Miners being harassed/killed.

    • @BirdBath1
      @BirdBath1 2 роки тому

      marinus86, look at bird bath

  • @artyfhartie2269
    @artyfhartie2269 Рік тому

    I parked my car under a tree in the street once and a gang of them descended on my car and started pecking on my windscreen wipers. I sounded the horn.. They flew away and then returned. I just moved away

  • @Calliber84
    @Calliber84 11 місяців тому

    I didnt like these birds but now have no problem with them as they give warning calls to my pigeons as soon as they see falcon or hawk. And my pigeons have enough time to keep clear or land

  • @kmhasan2659
    @kmhasan2659 2 роки тому +1

    How can we know and find the right trees for the birds in my area 🙄

    • @addernoir1483
      @addernoir1483 2 роки тому +1

      Your local Shire or Council's environmental department might be able to help. Some of them produce pamphlets suggesting some native species suitable for your local garden and bird habitat. Or you could try asking at your nearest indigenous nursery. They are usually staffed by friendly people who would be happy to give you some advice (and sell you some plants of course). :P

    • @BirdBath1
      @BirdBath1 2 роки тому

      Look at bird bath
      🐿😎

  • @coolhandluke1503
    @coolhandluke1503 Рік тому

    Who designed that park? an architect? how old are those gums already and at the point of recording it still wasn't being rectified. Oh well I'd just bring in a family of hawks. The Minors whole demeanor would change, they'd go from listening to thing to pick on to listening to thing to avoid

  • @matty_isthemotto
    @matty_isthemotto Рік тому

    Air rifles sort them out nicely

  • @syedanisuzzaman2286
    @syedanisuzzaman2286 Рік тому

    I have pest solutions card so I can tell the pest controler to kill noisy native miner. They always attack our friendly pigeon.

  • @madmick6275
    @madmick6275 Рік тому +1

    Poor little bird was killed by miners, he cant even rest in the after life. His little carcass has been preserved only to be used as a lure for some bloke science project. im sure a fake bird would of got the same reaction.

    • @Plethora_of_Paucity
      @Plethora_of_Paucity Рік тому +1

      “It’s quite brutal to watch” he says, with a smile on his face..

    • @madmick6275
      @madmick6275 Рік тому

      @@Plethora_of_Paucity Those miner's are savage. lol

  • @bradgotch
    @bradgotch 2 роки тому +9

    More golf courses should be converted to nature reserves.

    • @BirdBath1
      @BirdBath1 2 роки тому

      Simeon o, look at bird bath

    • @ninjaskeleton6140
      @ninjaskeleton6140 2 роки тому +1

      Golf courses are nature reserves. Lots of animals live in my local course. I’m not a golfer but the golf club is adjacent to the river I walk my dog along, I’ve seen many birds in there, and there has been a family of grey goshawks nesting in there for years now.

    • @BirdBath1
      @BirdBath1 2 роки тому

      @@ninjaskeleton6140 look at bird bath

  • @stephenfitzpatrick9189
    @stephenfitzpatrick9189 Рік тому

    Nature is not a mother . It's a cold hard reality .

  • @roberttony001
    @roberttony001 4 місяці тому

    They have taken over the domain of my yard, no sparrows or black birds allowed, none.

  • @MD.orion1
    @MD.orion1 Рік тому

    Councils are to blame too. All slackened off , no manpower to maintain anything or control this type of overpopulation of animals or birds.

  • @Naomi1
    @Naomi1 6 місяців тому +1

    The miner bird acts just like the peaceful community religion we all know

  • @chaos3545
    @chaos3545 2 роки тому +1

    Oh well I see them at my primary school in Australia and I just feed them smashed crackers. Never thought the creature would be that bad. Not gonna stop feeding them though, they are pretty

    • @evanb8495
      @evanb8495 Рік тому

      That's like feeding the rats during a plague!

  • @bruhpioneer3962
    @bruhpioneer3962 Рік тому +1

    i dont care what people say, it was magpie swooping season and these little guys saved my ass, they chased that magpie to the end of the world

  • @carolgibson-wilson4354
    @carolgibson-wilson4354 2 роки тому +2

    Ugly scene that. Blue Jays can be just as nasty.

    • @BirdBath1
      @BirdBath1 2 роки тому

      Carol Gibson-Wilson, look at bird bath

  • @andrewstrongman305
    @andrewstrongman305 Рік тому

    As a kid in outer Melbourne in the 80's I hated noisy miners. I tried many times to shoot them with an air-rifle, but they were always too wary.

  • @deborahduthie4519
    @deborahduthie4519 Рік тому

    Mynah’s not minors

  • @paddymellon8074
    @paddymellon8074 11 місяців тому

    Is there any way we can lobby for the poor finch to take 5 days transition leave so that it can identify as a Noisy miner to avoid such a terrible demise??

  • @russellknight7729
    @russellknight7729 2 роки тому +4

    Hmmm, you neglected to point out that the real problem is firstly "The Urban Sprawl". Humans expanding their own preferred environment to the detriment of all other aspects of the ecosystem/s. Secondly; the postcard-perfect 'garden' that has been developed at the golf course site is still as good as an alien landscape to an indigenous animal community. A healthy woodland/forest ecology MUST consist of many plant 'layers' between ground & sky. In the drone shots, it is appalling & obvious just how little herbage there is, as opposed to lawns (which are virtually dead space). Also, you need to be mindful of the mixed message that this vid could impart to less environmentally aware individuals whom could easily develop a "Noisy Miner Bad" mentality. This actually happened in the town where I live; a petition was circulated which proposed to have a flock of Bell Miners eradicated because of the threat to a copse of Blue Gums which were being annihilated by psyllid which were in effect 'protected' by the Bell Miners. As humans, we MUST recognise & understand the bigger picture & just let nature do its' thing / find its' own balance.

    • @BirdBath1
      @BirdBath1 2 роки тому +1

      russell knight, look at bird bath

    • @russellknight7729
      @russellknight7729 2 роки тому +1

      @@BirdBath1 What is 'bird bath'.

    • @BirdBath1
      @BirdBath1 2 роки тому

      @@russellknight7729 me, look at the birds i have

    • @Plethora_of_Paucity
      @Plethora_of_Paucity Рік тому +1

      @@russellknight7729​​⁠ Urban sprawl is bang on. Although, as many choose a ‘tree change’ abode, we’re moving into forested land where bushfires are prone. Fire authorities recommended to remove the ‘ladder effect’ layers, thereby creating less refuge for smaller birdlife and more open spaces for miners to thrive. Catch 22.

  • @PeterJonesonline
    @PeterJonesonline 2 роки тому

    Indian miners are worse. Encourage magpies. That’ll clear out the miners.

  • @dennishatzidimitriou7899
    @dennishatzidimitriou7899 Рік тому

    These birds need to be basically eradicated form our cities

  • @Jackson-rf6rv
    @Jackson-rf6rv 2 роки тому +3

    I'm just came here to say that Gio is a stud. I'd let him ruffle my feathers anyday

    • @BirdBath1
      @BirdBath1 2 роки тому

      Jackson, look at bird bath

  • @watsisbuttndo829
    @watsisbuttndo829 Рік тому +2

    Its a double edged sword, i have noisy miners in my area as well as rosellas. Lorikeets, magpies and other naitives. I used to dislike the miners but then saw an indian mynah turn up in my yard, the indian mynahs are easily spotted very near my house but when they turn up in my or my neighbours yards they are sent packing very hastily. Better the devil you know sometimes.

  • @NotSexualAtAll
    @NotSexualAtAll 6 місяців тому +1

    What an ironic bird. It precisely mocks the behavior of the types of people who creates these environmental boondoggles in the first place. Noisy. Clannish. And mostly bad for the environment.

  • @kingcroc
    @kingcroc 2 роки тому +69

    Myself and some work mates manage to save an Eastern Rosella that was knocked out of the sky and swooped even when he wasn't moving. Got him to a nearby RSPCA and he was okay but it was brutal to watch. As soon as he recovered they went after him again, swooping right past us as we tried to catch him and help him. It was bananas. Plant some native shrubbery and ground cover in your gardens, give the other birds a chance!

  • @stephenfitzpatrick9189
    @stephenfitzpatrick9189 Рік тому

    Nature is not a mother . It's a cold hard reality .

  • @Izzy-qf1do
    @Izzy-qf1do 2 роки тому +57

    The Karen's of the bird world.

    • @BirdBath1
      @BirdBath1 2 роки тому +1

      Izzy, look at bird bath

  • @海草猫
    @海草猫 Рік тому +29

    Didn't even consider that the type of trees we choose in our backyard could have such a big impact, definitely gonna have to come back to this video whenever I decide on a new tree!

  • @garynewton1263
    @garynewton1263 Рік тому +56

    I had a family of these birds in the trees of a property I moved into in Morphettville in 2017.
    They were extremely noisy, defensive and would swoop me whenever I came out into the garden area.
    I noticed there were Mudlarks and Magpies close by so I encouraged them into my garden with a bird bath and minced beef.
    Soon the Noisy Miners were driven out.
    I didn't realise they are a native species however they were quite annoying.
    The Magpies and Mudlarks on the other hand were very polite and grateful to me.

    • @Dazzwidd
      @Dazzwidd Рік тому +7

      haha that's funny, the mudlarks and magpies were more dominant, however the mudlarks compete very hard against the magpies. I love the magpies though as well as mudlarks, they're both very prevalent but don't seem as nasty about their goings about, like they understand we gotta coexist in some measure 😅

    • @garynewton1263
      @garynewton1263 Рік тому +6

      @@Dazzwidd Yes agreed. At one point I had 5 Magpies, 2 mudlarks (male & female) and a Willie Wagtail all in the one area, nice green lawn however I did feed them minced beef.
      I stopped doing that when I found out how harmful it is. Now I only feed maggies live crickets when I visit them.
      And when I had those three species in my garden that day they all got along well, no fighting. 😉

    • @evanb8495
      @evanb8495 Рік тому +1

      Small projectiles can also assist at moving on the Miner population ;)

    • @garynewton1263
      @garynewton1263 Рік тому +2

      @@evanb8495 Yes I read that. Somebody suggested I purchase a Water pistol.
      Lol
      The Mudlarks and Magpies did my job for me.
      I don't hate them as they are a native species but as I was new there they probably thought 'Oh we better show this guy that we own this area.
      😉

    • @Pete...NoNotThatOne
      @Pete...NoNotThatOne Рік тому +1

      One tip; don’t feed them mince by itself. Magpies usually subsist on a diet of worms, grubs, small insects, etc, and get their calcium and trace elements from the carapaces of these meals. I use an insectivore powder called Wombaroo, mixed with 18% fat content mince, and a tiny amount of water to turn it into a chunky slurry. Also, unsalted peanuts and pear pieces are very welcomed.

  • @susanfantozzi4415
    @susanfantozzi4415 6 місяців тому +8

    I think thats a better use of land than another golf course. Genius idea. 😊

  • @BirdBath1
    @BirdBath1 2 роки тому +12

    *Noisy miners: when good birds go bad... ABSOLUTELY💯*

  • @theiathegondia7349
    @theiathegondia7349 Рік тому +6

    Ive only had a good relationship with this species, they let me hand feed them and a baby one flew to me and let me hold it and i took it back to its parents

    • @gamergod7434
      @gamergod7434 Рік тому

      Maybe but in truth to other birds they are satanic bullies, they will gang up and bully other birds even when they dont fight over the same food

  • @rdmsh
    @rdmsh 2 роки тому +15

    Love seeing more green spaces in our cities. No idea the native minah did that

    • @BirdBath1
      @BirdBath1 2 роки тому

      David Marsh, look at bird bath

    • @michaelfisher9671
      @michaelfisher9671 Рік тому +1

      @@BirdBath1they are not a mynah or minah - different bird. They are a miner

  • @paulg3336
    @paulg3336 2 роки тому +24

    The New Zealand Tui is in the same family (Meliphagoidea) as the noisy miner , and they are also very territorial. However, they don't form mobs as they are generally solitary
    Just a few days ago the tui that lives in my garden chased an Indian Mynah into a glass window pane at full speed.
    The tui ,which was about 300mm behind the mynah, turned away with millimeters to spare. The mynah was stunned and on the ground below the window. I expected it to die ,but was surprised to see it fly off after half an hour.
    I often watch this tui chase swallows around the garden. The tui is 4 x the size of a swallow but can stay right on ones tail and match one in manoeuvrability

  • @seajay20
    @seajay20 Рік тому +7

    Noisy Miners (Minas?) are brutes & bullies. I live in Adelaide's northern suburbs. We used to have sparrows in my neighbourhood & starlings. Gone! I first noticed Noisy Miners when I moved into this house, just down from my mum's old house after a decade living away. I adopted a rescue kitten. When she was old enough, I took my young cat on a lead to walk outside. Suddenly, 1,2,3... bird poop was dropped like bombs in a row in quick succession. Above me was a telephone wire to my house with 3 very noisy, bullying birds I'd not seen before. I was shocked at this mob mentality. I stopped taking cats for walks of my yard thanks to bullying & harassing Noisy Miners. Long gone are the New Holland Honey Eaters that used to flock to my birdbaths by the 20's at a time. I've seen them attack Australian Magpies, Murray Magpies, Rainbow Lorikeets (brutally so, obviously isolating it from the many others that live in my trees & neighbourhood). I've seen them harass & attack a pasding Brushtail Possum during Covid-19's first Anzac Day 6am on the driveway event in 2020. These Miners are taking over... not helped by neighbours cutting down trees, builders removing all trees, and termite-ridden council trees falling over in 2 separate wind storms this year. It's a crying shame. Yes, pigeons numbers are dropping off. It hasn't stopped Galahs eating my lawn. Less Sulphur Crested Cockatoos fly over around sunrise & sunset. I used to see & hear Wattle Birds. But seeing these monsters mob-attack birds (& pets), pester birds in flight relentlessly, no matter their size (although there's no smaller birds left in my neighbourhood, mistly only birds bigger than them), I'd like to see these pests culled. I haven't seen a Willie Wagtail in my neighbourhood in decades. Yes, some is tree reduction. But, the Noisy Miners continue to be here. I hate those birds. They're attackers & killers of birds I love. It's time the Federal Government takes a decision regarding these birds for the future of other birds. Again, it breaks my heart to see so many varieties of birds leave, and be brutally pursued & bullied by these birds. Again, I never knew about these birds until they went to harass my cat by a coordinated poop-attack the moment we stepped out the door, with her on a lead (pre pet harness days). I'd like to see a control of their numbers & dominance. It's past time. They've become mob killers. It grieves me to no longer see or hear the New Holland Honeyeaters, and similar or smaller birds in the garden. I used to have 100+ Rainbow Lorikeets and a dozen Australian Magpies in my shady backyard on the extreme heatwave days, along with many pigeons and other birds. They were drawn by the shade, quiet, lots of birdbaths & no dogs. I doubt I'll see those numbers again, thanks to the new development on my boundary removing all of the trees on their side if the fence. I still have my giant trees, and also shrubs - both which the Rainbow Lorikeets love... but the Noisy Miners have discovered they like my shrubs now, too - grr! I'll be planting more bushes or small trees to sgade my garden again, once the house(s) next door is/are complete, so I can evaluate what's best to plant, given new limitations (including rain collection - the guy wants his entire property to be covered in cement, which could even affect my existing trees re water sourcing). Anyway, Noisy Miners aren't just that former Melbourne golf course's problem. They're a pest everywhere. It needs to be addressed for the sake of our other native birdlife. Maybe sterilisation, if not culling. They're killing our other birds & enrichment of those birds in our metropolitan backyard gardens. Please think bigger than this Melbourne gold course. Noisy Miners are pests, bullies & killers everywhere.

    • @MartintheTinman
      @MartintheTinman Рік тому

      We've created the environment that they thrive in.
      We have to completely change the way we manage public green spaces

    • @Sinsteel
      @Sinsteel Рік тому +1

      Noisy Miners are native and sparrows and starlings are invasive pests, so in other words that's not a problem.

  • @deano1873
    @deano1873 Рік тому +5

    It's sad to see the little birds go after the minars take over. Something I've noted over my lifetime

  • @kevinwheatley6342
    @kevinwheatley6342 2 роки тому +4

    we have a couple of indian miners and i call them the gangsters.i have a bird bath set up and none of the birds take crap from them,they try to dominate the bath.a big tawney frogmouth stopped for a drink and the minors did their thing but the frogmouth i swear was just laughing at them,like really guys f off.the fairy wrens we have , have a plan,the male flys down next to the minors pretending he has a broken wing,the minors go for him but he flys a short distance minors follow,thats when all the other wrens come for a drink and quick scratch around the grass.

    • @BirdBath1
      @BirdBath1 2 роки тому

      kevin wheatley, look at bird bath

  • @1337flite
    @1337flite Рік тому +2

    These bugger actually attack and try to drive off my dog - who is a 23kg Staffy Bull Terrier - at our local park. They swoop him, chase him make noises at him. He sort of ignores them. I thought they were just playing but now I am re-assessing that assumption big time.

  • @BDawg-d8k
    @BDawg-d8k Рік тому +1

    Not sure if true, but Noisy Miners are native Australian species that have increased in aggressiveness since introduction of other competitive birds such as the common or Indian Myna? I know, its a lot to take in in.. "This weekend at Australia's Dustbowl Stadium, the local Noisy Miners are taking the slightly less annoying but equally unliked imports, the Indian Mynas!.. in the 'Country of Origin - Seriously where's my 303 rifle' Cup. Where the crowd are hoping both side lose!!!" Honestly, Noisy Miners don't deserve to wear the green and gold!

  • @johngarofano7356
    @johngarofano7356 Рік тому +3

    They have destroyed bird life in Sydney as well, I think the noisy myna is far worst than the Indian myna . In our parks there is no bird life just silence very sad

    • @Sinsteel
      @Sinsteel Рік тому

      the noisy miner doesn't do that, it's creating open parks and spaces that gives small birds no cover so they don't nest there. It's horrible and totally incorrect to blame this on the native Noisy Miner (NOT "myna")

    • @johngarofano7356
      @johngarofano7356 Рік тому

      @@Sinsteel sorry I ment miner , I have been a bird watcher ,bird lover ,for decades but since the noisy miners moved into parks and suburbs many other birds have disappeared e.g. where I live in southwest Sydney sparrows have disappeared ,the miners are extremely territorial ,they even come and attack my aviary birds,,I know they are native birds but they have chased all other small species away,and we have plenty of trees and bushes for them to hide in,

  • @brucelee3388
    @brucelee3388 Рік тому +3

    Sydney Nth Shore: Indian Mynahs came through first, really bad from the 1980's when they started attacking people to make them drop their lunch (!). Once the Indian Mynahs had driven all the smaller birds out - only pigeons, currawongs and magpies in any numbers with seasonal crows - then the Noisy Mynahs turned up from the late 1990's and largely drove off the Indian Mynahs (the Indian Mynahs used to nest in my neighbour's roof, now totally gone). The Noisy Mynahs even 'treed' my neighbour's cat on my front fence, lining up on the power line and 'dive bombing' him, he didn't dare move. I've also observed them over the local golf course attacking hawks at high altitude, 6 or so Mynahs to the hawk. Now the Currawongs seem to have given up, along with the crows, only seen one or two in the last few years.

    • @MD.orion1
      @MD.orion1 Рік тому +1

      Exactly, North side councils in Sydney and other places have dropped the ball big time. They are supposed to employ all those eco this and biodiversity that but do nothing much to control animal populations like this to give all species a chance.
      Bandicoots, white cockatoo and bush turkeys proliferate, with those mynahs of any kind and nothing else thrives no matter what we plant in our garden.

  • @duncanwallace7760
    @duncanwallace7760 Рік тому +2

    They even give the magpies a hard time where I live. I saw some the other day trying to mob a Darter, which eats fish, so they just have that aggression in their nature unfortunately.

  • @louise2379
    @louise2379 Рік тому +1

    What plants again? She Oak, Wattle, ?Gum

  • @johncitizen5377
    @johncitizen5377 Рік тому +1

    I asked my supervisor if we could shoot the Miner birds with a Nerf Gun. She said NO! So, I guess it's back to throwing rocks at them LOL.

  • @liam3284
    @liam3284 Рік тому +1

    Miners are particulary agressive to birds that eat psylids. They are psylid farmers.

  • @jesselyons4631
    @jesselyons4631 11 місяців тому +1

    Unfortunate for the other birds but very difficult to blame the miners. They are just doing the best that they can in environments dominated by humans, and doing it very well. They don't cause these problems in natural, well balanced ecosystems. It's our fault.

    • @malcontender6319
      @malcontender6319 6 місяців тому

      No, it's not our fault that they can exploit an opening in a niche better than the other birds.
      Stop guilt tripping.

  • @michaelwhite8069
    @michaelwhite8069 2 роки тому +2

    So why are the Indian myna birds overrunning Melbourne urban gardens? I’ve never seen the native mynah bird in my garden. I thought the grey mynah was timid. Not by the way they gang up on other birds that come unto their patch.

    • @tonyrandall3146
      @tonyrandall3146 2 роки тому +1

      Increasing urbanisation is giving them a niche. Middle suburbia is perfect for them.

  • @brontewcat
    @brontewcat 11 місяців тому +1

    I know when my cat comes out into the backyard - the noisy mynahs goes crazy.

  • @paul9511
    @paul9511 2 роки тому +2

    They have positive,s if a snake is about they'll carry on,other territorial birds magpies butcher birds will gather they'll all swoop peck at the snake..they're the first ones to spot Eagles circling,let all the birds know,off they hide.

  • @trevorpom
    @trevorpom 2 роки тому +7

    When I was 15 years old, I watched noisy minors in Toombul park in Brisbane attack a big grey Persian cat. They waited until the cat was in the middle of the park with nowhere to run and hide and they mobbed it so ferociously that the cat just lost the plot, rolled over on its' back and gave up. The birds actually landed on the ground beside the cat and pecked at it with no fear at all and the cat didn't even try to fight back. It took the cat the good part of an hour to gradually creep to safety across the park. It was an amazing thing to see and I'm more than sure that cat never ventured into the park during the day ever again.

  • @zwgrafakhsandrianos7784
    @zwgrafakhsandrianos7784 2 роки тому +4

    Reality is so awkwardly awesome...

    • @BirdBath1
      @BirdBath1 2 роки тому

      Zwgrafakhs Andrianos, look at bird bath

    • @evanb8495
      @evanb8495 Рік тому

      ​@@BirdBath1sell me on it

  • @realvipul
    @realvipul Рік тому +1

    Noisy miner needs to be culled to a acceptable level so to give some chance to other birds🤔

    • @evanb8495
      @evanb8495 Рік тому

      We must all do our part.. why the hell do they have protected status?!

  • @BrendanCarroll-ld3xk
    @BrendanCarroll-ld3xk Рік тому +1

    are they introduced ?

  • @Screddy_Henks
    @Screddy_Henks 2 роки тому +9

    They are monsters. I've seen them knock babies out of nests

    • @michellemaher6144
      @michellemaher6144 2 роки тому +1

      They do that deliberately as the chicks spend several days on the ground.

    • @mynameisnotjonas3219
      @mynameisnotjonas3219 2 роки тому +1

      Based miners

    • @BirdBath1
      @BirdBath1 2 роки тому

      Look at bird bath
      🐝🍉

    • @murph_mustela
      @murph_mustela 2 роки тому

      I saw one of them taking on two ravens, three/four times their size. Awful.

    • @BirdBath1
      @BirdBath1 2 роки тому

      @@murph_mustela Look at bird bath

  • @Chez114
    @Chez114 2 роки тому +6

    Me: It's a beautiful day. Blue skies and birds chirping
    Nature: Get tf out! / Hey woman, choose me!

    • @BirdBath1
      @BirdBath1 2 роки тому

      Chesrae, look at bird bath

  • @reverseuniverse2559
    @reverseuniverse2559 Рік тому +1

    Such an amazing smart bird I have an aviary of Budgerigars and they dart beak first into the wire luckily it’s hardened 2cm square wire otherwise they’d be gone also having a couple of felines that helps keep them away

  • @DaishDaishDaish
    @DaishDaishDaish Рік тому

    i watched one of these birds kill a baby duck years ago
    it ripped a large chunk of skin off its head the baby duck died a slow and painful death

  • @noahway13
    @noahway13 Рік тому

    Looks like you need to thin out the herd. Cull them down, don't wait a decade for shrubs.

  • @anim8torfiddler871
    @anim8torfiddler871 3 місяці тому

    Excellent Video Post~ I wish MORE would provide such information. Show the Problem, and show some suggested solutions. These help us begin to see how we can both avoid contributing to disasters, and begin to learn how to make positive contributions to improvements. Thank you!

  • @johndavis7944
    @johndavis7944 Рік тому

    I hope any planted small shrubbery thrives and in turn provides protection and sanctuary for the smaller bush birds. Mono cultures of birds and plants are the result of our own doings. Diversity is paramount or you can kill off an entire species.

  • @CoolAsFreya
    @CoolAsFreya 2 роки тому +1

    I've seen these noisy miners dive-bombing other species in the backyard

    • @BirdBath1
      @BirdBath1 2 роки тому

      CoolAsFreya, look at bird bath

  • @evanb8495
    @evanb8495 Рік тому

    Remove their protected status.. problem solved. Well, legally now 😅

  • @feelincrispy7053
    @feelincrispy7053 2 роки тому +1

    This bird pisses me off because they are well, noisey as hell. Magpies next to my house seem to mitigate the area though

    • @BirdBath1
      @BirdBath1 2 роки тому

      Feelincrispy, look at bird bath

  • @YourFrienjamin
    @YourFrienjamin Рік тому

    Listen, government.
    Just declare these as pests already and I'll get rid of them for free.

  • @blondegirlsezthis8798
    @blondegirlsezthis8798 2 роки тому +1

    Drone hunter killers needed to thin out the Myna riff raff

    • @BirdBath1
      @BirdBath1 2 роки тому

      BlondeGirlSez This, look at bird bath

  • @Robin_Coffins
    @Robin_Coffins 2 роки тому +5

    Miners are awful. Saved a pet canary from miners, they were just relentlessly attacking it so I just ran over and grabbed it up and took it to the vet. So this doesn't really surprise me though. What can we do though?

    • @BirdBath1
      @BirdBath1 2 роки тому

      RobinCoffins, look at bird bath

    • @murph_mustela
      @murph_mustela 2 роки тому +1

      Plant small, dense shrubs/bushy plants. Dense, native, bramble-like shrubs. This allows the small birds to live there instead of the miners and gives them shelter and protection from them. Don't leave out food/bird food that's easily accessible as the miners will just come and eat it and chase everything else away, meaning all you're doing is providing extra food to miners. Instead of leaving food for birds just plant the appropriate shrubbery/plants.

  • @mikecrocker1485
    @mikecrocker1485 Рік тому

    I’ve seen them fight off a kookaburra.

  • @atomicnumber202
    @atomicnumber202 6 місяців тому

    So just..eat the miners(don't)

  • @maussie9942
    @maussie9942 Рік тому

    Who knew noisy minahs are narcissistic?