I hope this helps you guys find these shapes Simple to Understand. {{ A Mode is just a Major scale starting on its individual notes which gives us 7 different shapes which are covered in the above video...........very good lesson }} Shape 1 is the B Major scale starting on the root note of B. ( This is called the B Ionian Mode or more commonly the Major scale ) Shape 2 is the A Major scale but starting on its 2nd note which is B ( This is called the B Dorian Mode...which is just A Major starting on its 2nd note ) Shape 3 is the G Major scale starting on it 3rd note which is B ( This is called the B Phrygian Mode...which is just G Major starting on its 3rd note ) Shape 4 is the F# Major scale starting on its 4th note which is B ( This is called the B Lydian Mode...which is just F# Major starting on its 4th note ) Shape 5 is the E Major scale but starting on its 5th note which is B (This is called the B Mixolydian Mode...which is Just E major starting on its 5th note) Shape 6 is the D Major scale but starting on its 6th note which is B (This is called the B Aeolian Mode...which is just D Major starting on its 6th note) (( The Aeolian mode is also known as the Relative Minor. In this case it's B minor as related to D Major scale)) Shape 7 is the C Major scale but starting on its 7th note which is B (This is called the B Locrian Mode...which is just C Major starting on its 7th note) It's also useful to bear in mind that the modes are either major or minor because of the chords in the scale they represent. So.................... Ionian is Major Dorian is Minor Phrygian is Minor Lydian is Major Mixolydian is Major or Dominent 7th Aelonian is Minor ((Relative minor) Locian is Minor 7th with a flattened 5th (very rarely used)
+Thomas Cronin what an excellent explanation. so many ways to look at different approaches working this in different positions can be a little complicated theory wise but the 3 notes per string is the picking advantage especially for speed picking thanks very good
+Ben Davella The first pattern IS the Major Scale (Ionian Mode). At the 5th fret it would be A major. The 2nd mode of A major is B Dorian. ( The 2nd pattern fingering. )
Thomas Cronin So he started from the 7th fret. What happens when you start at another fret? Nita Strauss says to practice the modes. Is this what she is talking about?
Wow this lesson really helps. I spent 4 days with the first shape by the 2nd day I was improvising with it. Then did 4 days with the 2nd shape and so on. I know what note groupings sound good now. Spending days just playing 1 shape really helped drill it down. I still can't play it very fast.
@JPTR76 LOL thanks for the reply. If someone is using just the same scale shape in different positions of the neck then they are changing keys every time they do it. My approach is to show ALL 3-notes per string possibilities for each key across the entire neck. To help me fully understand your question perhaps you can send me a message with a link to the other 3-notes per string video and I will be happy to let you know the difference between the two. Thanks again!! Carl..
@steveo27545 Hey SteveO, what I am trying to get across by doing everything off of every note in the scale is to break the fretboard up into regions. Then it will be easy to locate a scale for every region very quickly. If you watch the major scale visualization videos you will get what I mean by regions. Melodic Minor scales with 3-notes per string are coming today!! Cheers.. Carl..
Thank you so much for these lessons. I am a little confused. On some other "3 note per string lessons" is see on youtube the seem to use on the the first shape you used in this lesson on all seven positions of the given key. What is the difference in that approach as opposed to this one? I am not complaining. I have learned more from you than any other teacher on youtube. Just wondering. Thanks!
I have a question the way I learned how to solo was using the major or minor pentatonic scale. I would ask is it possible for you to show how you can build the modes using the pentatonic scale Example A Aeolian Mode is almost the same as the A minor pentatonic scale except that you add the 9th and the b6. The same can be applied using the G major penta and G Mixolydian.The Dorian,Phrygian,aeolian,locrian are all minor modes and Lonian,lydian,mixolydian are major modes.
Cool. You answered my question perfectly. After seeing your lessons I new the other vids I have seen couldn't be right. Thanks again for all the great lessons. Keep up the great work. Also thanks for the Eric Johnson lessons too! He along Steve Morse are my two favorite gutiar players. Maybe in the next 20 or 30 years I will be able to play like them. LOL!
Sounds good, I think I under stand this , i has made me think, I learned the 5 major scales connected, but I can see why you wish too teach it different. You want us to see the root and chords form in each pattern and this is missed when learning the 5 basic shape, or could be missed. Thanks
Formula's would have been very appropriate here - major scale starting on C is standard way of showing this as no sharps or flats and the formula 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 - C D E F G A B, so we see WWSWWWS (W - whole tone, S - semi tone). From this you can work out all the positions or patterns very easily whether you use 3NPS or CAGED system.
I have a question,Say the scale in the key of F in the first position starts on the first fret of the 6th string tht is F,will it act like a pentatonic scale where if u wanna play it in the key of G,the first position would start from 3rd fret 6th string G note and go on in an overlapping puzzle pattern for the next 6 positions?
@guitartillidie Hey thanks a lot. Yeah I know some of my videos don't have the most views but hopefully that will change eventually. I am trying to figure out how to market my vids, but I guess I am not very good at it quite yet. :)
There is a pattern that I figured out. If you write all of the positions out, you'll notice this fingering. Let's use the F on low E to start. 135, 135, 135, 124, 124, 134, 134 ( repeat) That is the Mixolydian mode (shape) of the F major scale. Here's the a-ha moment. Whatever you finish with on the high E, when you go to play the next mode on the low E, staying in the same key, not on the same fret as in the video, you repeat what you played on the high E, and continue the pattern. For example, the first mode on the high E ends in the pattern 134, so if we are still playing in the key of F, you play the 134 pattern on the low E starting on the third fret. Remember, you are carrying over the high E pattern from the first mode to start the begging of the second mode on the low E (B-134, High E- 134), so essentially that will be the second 134. If you look above, what comes after the second 134? 135. So for the next three strings (A,D,G), you play the 135 pattern. Then what's next? Look above, after the third 135 pattern, you get 124. So you'd play 124 on the B and high E strings. Whatever you finish with on the high E, it carries over to the next mode. Read this a few times, try it out. You will love it.
I'm assuming when practicing these shapes, it would be best to hold your hand as you would when playing legato runs? I'm starting to learn how to play legato-ly lol
@JPTR76 Hey thanks for watching, I hope I am understanding the question correctly in that you want to know why I am not taking all 7 of these forms across the neck in one key instead of playing them all at the 7th fret? The reason is because this lesson is just to help you memorize the individual forms without thinking about keys. I feel if you first learn them in a key a lot of times it is hard to move change. I work on visualizing these forms in a key in other videos in my advanced playlist :)
hi, thanks for the great vids. i'm trying to learn these shapes and hopefully progress to understand modes a lot better, my question is, whilst learning these shapes shall i call each by the mode name eg shape one ionian, shape two dorian etc or have i totally misunderstood this concept. many thanks
@ 3:45 what do you mean shape it off the 3rd. I noticed the first example is Major Scale. and the second example is the Dorian scale. But i dont understand what you mean whn u say "Shape it off the 3rd"?
Well this lit a fire under my ass! I got a lot from this. It IS about patterns but your ear starts picking up modes along the way and it made it much easier for me. Thanks a TON!
Sorry. I know I butchered that first question. What I mean is other teachers on youtube will only use the first shape/voicing you show here on all 7 positions of the neck. I know in your other vids you use each voicing with the corresponding position on the neck. The first voicing for the 1st position, 2nd for for the 2 position and so on. I understand this one is just an example in one spot. I was just wondering what the difference was in their approach as opposed to yours.
I just need to ask this The three notes per string has 7 patterns do I just need the learn the 7 patterns of the three notes per string or should I learn 5 different patterns for each modes for example 5 patterns for Ionian,5 for Dorian etc.Its very confusing.
GuitarLessons365 I am always hanging around one of your sites. Your structured approach works really well for me. I will likely become a premium subscriber because I may need some human interaction to get through this theory stuff.
my hands are quite small and I'm having real trouble stretching that far on the e and a strings, I'd never be able to do this at the first fret, my hands simply do not span that much distance. Any advice for someone with small hands?
Cheers guys, I'm getting there moving my thumb right down on the neck. I'd tried the CAGED method but I'm trying to learn economy picking and the three-note-per string stuff goes well with it. Time to check out the John Petrucci stuff!
Monkey Puzzle watch videos of kids playing. There are tons of videos on UA-cam of like 6-8 year olds shredding. Playing Randy Rhoads and stuff. If that doesn't show you that people with small hands can play just as fast as anyone else, idk what will.
I'm new to playing any sort of lead. I was just starting to learn my scales when I read that this system is superior to the CAGED system. Should I sink practice time into this instead. It seems a lot more advanced but I can see how it would be superior in the long run.... Not afraid of the practice time.
Gary Weddle Yes. I was frustrated while learning the CAGED system. When i was improvising my fingers just felt like they were always on top of each other.
@Kedcooks Hey thanks for following along with the lessons. By the 3rd I mean the third note in the key. To fully understand my method for understanding all of your keys so you can easily apply this method to the guitar neck go to my main website (link is in the channel sidebar). When there click on the Lessons Archive page and click music theory archive. Find the "Understanding Keys" lesson and download the PDF. It should help clear it all up. Don't worry, it's all FREE!! :)
There is a great summary book on this I carry in my guitar bag. "The No Frills: Rock Guitar Guide: Open, Barred & Power Chords, 3 note per string Scales, CAGED Chord Theory & Rock Progressions " - www.amazon.com/dp/B089G6RDDR
I hope this helps you guys find these shapes Simple to Understand.
{{ A Mode is just a Major scale starting on its individual notes which gives us 7 different shapes which are covered in the above video...........very good lesson }}
Shape 1 is the B Major scale starting on the root note of B.
( This is called the B Ionian Mode or more commonly the Major scale )
Shape 2 is the A Major scale but starting on its 2nd note which is B
( This is called the B Dorian Mode...which is just A Major starting on its 2nd note )
Shape 3 is the G Major scale starting on it 3rd note which is B
( This is called the B Phrygian Mode...which is just G Major starting on its 3rd note )
Shape 4 is the F# Major scale starting on its 4th note which is B
( This is called the B Lydian Mode...which is just F# Major starting on its 4th note )
Shape 5 is the E Major scale but starting on its 5th note which is B
(This is called the B Mixolydian Mode...which is Just E major starting on its 5th note)
Shape 6 is the D Major scale but starting on its 6th note which is B
(This is called the B Aeolian Mode...which is just D Major starting on its 6th note)
(( The Aeolian mode is also known as the Relative Minor. In this case it's B minor as related to D Major scale))
Shape 7 is the C Major scale but starting on its 7th note which is B
(This is called the B Locrian Mode...which is just C Major starting on its 7th note)
It's also useful to bear in mind that the modes are either major or minor because of the chords in the scale they represent. So....................
Ionian is Major
Dorian is Minor
Phrygian is Minor
Lydian is Major
Mixolydian is Major or Dominent 7th
Aelonian is Minor ((Relative minor)
Locian is Minor 7th with a flattened 5th (very rarely used)
+Thomas Cronin what an excellent explanation. so many ways to look at different approaches working this in different positions can be a little complicated theory wise but the 3 notes per string is the picking advantage especially for speed picking thanks very good
Thanks Guys. Glad it was helpful.
+Ben Davella The first pattern IS the Major Scale (Ionian Mode). At the 5th fret it would be A major. The 2nd mode of A major is B Dorian. ( The 2nd pattern fingering. )
Thomas Cronin So he started from the 7th fret. What happens when you start at another fret? Nita Strauss says to practice the modes. Is this what she is talking about?
Dude!
This is gold. Not only you build better right hand picking but also all the modal shapes are now under your fingers.
Now this is how you serve the community
Man... why did it take me over a decade to find you? Thanks again Carl.
Wow this lesson really helps. I spent 4 days with the first shape by the 2nd day I was improvising with it. Then did 4 days with the 2nd shape and so on. I know what note groupings sound good now. Spending days just playing 1 shape really helped drill it down. I still can't play it very fast.
@JPTR76 LOL thanks for the reply. If someone is using just the same scale shape in different positions of the neck then they are changing keys every time they do it. My approach is to show ALL 3-notes per string possibilities for each key across the entire neck. To help me fully understand your question perhaps you can send me a message with a link to the other 3-notes per string video and I will be happy to let you know the difference between the two. Thanks again!! Carl..
@steveo27545 Hey SteveO, what I am trying to get across by doing everything off of every note in the scale is to break the fretboard up into regions. Then it will be easy to locate a scale for every region very quickly. If you watch the major scale visualization videos you will get what I mean by regions. Melodic Minor scales with 3-notes per string are coming today!! Cheers.. Carl..
@JPTR76 Great I am glad I could help, and maybe in the next 20 or 30 years I will be able to play like Eric Johnson and Steve Morse too. :)
Thanks you so much you unlock my life , I have been stuck with CAGED so long , and it is useless , my level play is stepping in the same place
CAGED useless?!?!?!? Explain why it is useless please?
Thank you so much for these lessons. I am a little confused. On some other "3 note per string lessons" is see on youtube the seem to use on the the first shape you used in this lesson on all seven positions of the given key. What is the difference in that approach as opposed to this one? I am not complaining. I have learned more from you than any other teacher on youtube. Just wondering. Thanks!
I have a question the way I learned how to solo was using the major or minor pentatonic scale. I would ask is it possible for you to show how you can build the modes using the pentatonic scale Example A Aeolian Mode is almost the same as the A minor pentatonic scale except that you add the 9th and the b6. The same can be applied using the G major penta and G Mixolydian.The Dorian,Phrygian,aeolian,locrian are all minor modes and Lonian,lydian,mixolydian are major modes.
Which lesson are you referring to? Understanding major key chord progressions? To watch first.
Cool. You answered my question perfectly. After seeing your lessons I new the other vids I have seen couldn't be right. Thanks again for all the great lessons. Keep up the great work. Also thanks for the Eric Johnson lessons too! He along Steve Morse are my two favorite gutiar players. Maybe in the next 20 or 30 years I will be able to play like them. LOL!
Sounds good, I think I under stand this , i has made me think, I learned the 5 major scales connected, but I can see why you wish too teach it different.
You want us to see the root and chords form in each pattern and this is missed when learning the 5 basic shape, or could be missed.
Thanks
Formula's would have been very appropriate here - major scale starting on C is standard way of showing this as no sharps or flats and the formula 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 - C D E F G A B, so we see WWSWWWS (W - whole tone, S - semi tone). From this you can work out all the positions or patterns very easily whether you use 3NPS or CAGED system.
Penta box guy,wow this is great.I can hear this in so much music,one example is Van Halen.I had a teenager flashback today.
Really good and simply stuff. Thanks
Is each position following the order of the modes?
Is shape 1 Ionian, is shape 2 Dorian, is shape 3 Phyrgian? etc..
***** it doesn't matter what position you're in, you can play any mode you want.
@stratphil The A region just means any A note. Ab - A - A#.. Either one is considered the A region. :)
I have a question,Say the scale in the key of F in the first position starts on the first fret of the 6th string tht is F,will it act like a pentatonic scale where if u wanna play it in the key of G,the first position would start from 3rd fret 6th string G note and go on in an overlapping puzzle pattern for the next 6 positions?
playing the shapes in one spot from the B note on the E string is the same as playing all the 1st positions of the modes right?
@guitartillidie Hey thanks a lot. Yeah I know some of my videos don't have the most views but hopefully that will change eventually. I am trying to figure out how to market my vids, but I guess I am not very good at it quite yet. :)
Little did he know...he'd eventually teach every guitar player on the planet how to play every song ever written...
Thank You !
so basically your playing inbetween the patterns
i & ii,
ii &i ii,
iii & iv,
iv & v,
v & i
right?
There is a pattern that I figured out. If you write all of the positions out, you'll notice this fingering. Let's use the F on low E to start.
135, 135, 135, 124, 124, 134, 134 ( repeat)
That is the Mixolydian mode (shape) of the F major scale. Here's the a-ha moment. Whatever you finish with on the high E, when you go to play the next mode on the low E, staying in the same key, not on the same fret as in the video, you repeat what you played on the high E, and continue the pattern. For example, the first mode on the high E ends in the pattern 134, so if we are still playing in the key of F, you play the 134 pattern on the low E starting on the third fret. Remember, you are carrying over the high E pattern from the first mode to start the begging of the second mode on the low E (B-134, High E- 134), so essentially that will be the second 134. If you look above, what comes after the second 134? 135. So for the next three strings (A,D,G), you play the 135 pattern. Then what's next? Look above, after the third 135 pattern, you get 124. So you'd play 124 on the B and high E strings. Whatever you finish with on the high E, it carries over to the next mode.
Read this a few times, try it out. You will love it.
Great lesson, thanks for sharing !!!
Hey I'm watching you from Colombia. Wanna start playing guitar
well... now what do i do with these shapes? it seems hard to memorize all of them.
All great stuff Carl but how do i make this musical?
I'm assuming when practicing these shapes, it would be best to hold your hand as you would when playing legato runs? I'm starting to learn how to play legato-ly lol
@JPTR76 Hey thanks for watching, I hope I am understanding the question correctly in that you want to know why I am not taking all 7 of these forms across the neck in one key instead of playing them all at the 7th fret? The reason is because this lesson is just to help you memorize the individual forms without thinking about keys. I feel if you first learn them in a key a lot of times it is hard to move change. I work on visualizing these forms in a key in other videos in my advanced playlist :)
hi, thanks for the great vids. i'm trying to learn these shapes and hopefully progress to understand modes a lot better, my question is, whilst learning these shapes shall i call each by the mode name eg shape one ionian, shape two dorian etc or have i totally misunderstood this concept. many thanks
@ 3:45 what do you mean shape it off the 3rd. I noticed the first example is Major Scale. and the second example is the Dorian scale. But i dont understand what you mean whn u say "Shape it off the 3rd"?
hey man should i try all seven shapes at the wid d same root note or diff places???
Well this lit a fire under my ass! I got a lot from this. It IS about patterns but your ear starts picking up modes along the way and it made it much easier for me. Thanks a TON!
Formula's not patterns
Sorry. I know I butchered that first question. What I mean is other teachers on youtube will only use the first shape/voicing you show here on all 7 positions of the neck. I know in your other vids you use each voicing with the corresponding position on the neck. The first voicing for the 1st position, 2nd for for the 2 position and so on. I understand this one is just an example in one spot. I was just wondering what the difference was in their approach as opposed to yours.
I just need to ask this
The three notes per string has 7 patterns do I just need the learn the 7 patterns of the three notes per string or should I learn 5 different patterns for each modes for example 5 patterns for Ionian,5 for Dorian etc.Its very confusing.
Thank you so much brother! You explained well! This is truly amazing!
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GuitarLessons365 I am always hanging around one of your sites. Your structured approach works really well for me. I will likely become a premium subscriber because I may need some human interaction to get through this theory stuff.
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Dude, you and Eric Calderone (331Erock)play almost identical. Your hands are eerily the same.
my hands are quite small and I'm having real trouble stretching that far on the e and a strings, I'd never be able to do this at the first fret, my hands simply do not span that much distance. Any advice for someone with small hands?
have ur thumb lower down on the neck so your fingers can reach
and check out rock disipline with john petrucci he got some nice stretch excerises
You could either get a smaller guitar, work on finger stretching exercieses - or you could compenate and use the CAGED method to get scales down.
Cheers guys, I'm getting there moving my thumb right down on the neck. I'd tried the CAGED method but I'm trying to learn economy picking and the three-note-per string stuff goes well with it. Time to check out the John Petrucci stuff!
Monkey Puzzle watch videos of kids playing. There are tons of videos on UA-cam of like 6-8 year olds shredding. Playing Randy Rhoads and stuff. If that doesn't show you that people with small hands can play just as fast as anyone else, idk what will.
How is this different than caged?
where i lose you is when you start talkin about Ab, are you sayin within the A region you have 3 regions?
wahahah im 17 years old but i canot speak english nicely but i understand it. Im a pilipino but working in italy like a maid >
i know the g, c and a major scales how do i learn the b, d, e and f major scales?
That's the great thing about the guitar and the way it's tuned. If you know 1 Major scale then you know them all.
You are right, playing the root note low e you are playing a E chord then 1 fret forward an F, then 1 fret forward and F# and so on..
I'm new to playing any sort of lead. I was just starting to learn my scales when I read that this system is superior to the CAGED system. Should I sink practice time into this instead. It seems a lot more advanced but I can see how it would be superior in the long run.... Not afraid of the practice time.
Gary Weddle Yes. I was frustrated while learning the CAGED system. When i was improvising my fingers just felt like they were always on top of each other.
Cool
@Kedcooks Hey thanks for following along with the lessons. By the 3rd I mean the third note in the key. To fully understand my method for understanding all of your keys so you can easily apply this method to the guitar neck go to my main website (link is in the channel sidebar). When there click on the Lessons Archive page and click music theory archive. Find the "Understanding Keys" lesson and download the PDF. It should help clear it all up. Don't worry, it's all FREE!! :)
You are a great guitar player but i didnt understand a thing xD
There is a great summary book on this I carry in my guitar bag. "The No Frills: Rock Guitar Guide: Open, Barred & Power Chords, 3 note per string Scales, CAGED Chord Theory & Rock Progressions " - www.amazon.com/dp/B089G6RDDR
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good luck with that, life's hard
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Honestly no offense to the teacher but to me this is a terrible lesson presentation.