I don't know, this does is an improvement compared to her previous NT version, but any of her vocaloid voicebanks still sounds better than this, so now I'm only looking forward to Miku V6
This is really a great update for people who don't have enough skills to master the tone and pitch of the voice. Thank you for doing what Yamaha is supposed to do with Vocaloid instead of selling yet another version of a voicebank that really doesn't add anything
@@JazyyWazyyTHATS WHAT IM SAYING, people are hearing "NT Update" and thinking its gonna be this crazy overhaul that makes her sound exactly like her V2 (I love her V2 too btw, no hate) when thats not at all what it is, this is how Crypton wants Miku to sound for Piapro NT, and im glad they didnt change it, and im SUPER glad they made her sound more clear
No creo que sea cosa de la grabación, sino más bien el programa en si,,, es cosa de oír los SP que suenan como NT porque son para el piapro(?), o de oir GUMI de SynthV y V6, donde en synthV suena más "limpia" sin ese ruido extra,, o Rose y Popy en cevioAI y synthV que no suenan tan nasal o aireada como en cevio(??. Lo que se me hace raro del piapro es la voz que no suena plana(? o limpia como del V4 hacia atrás 🤔🤔 también si saki aun puede hacer la voz :'''3
@@idreltde el problema de los SP es que solo son ediciones de audio, en vocaloid los SP suenan igual de mal, la NT tenia unas grabaciones bastante nasales mientras tanto lo único que han hecho en este 2.0 es quitarle eso, si te das cuenta suena muy rara en las transiciones y muchísimo mas entre vocales, casi parece que no tiene además las consonantes suenan bastante raras , NT literalmente casi perece un error al igual que los SP, es lamentable que la V4X suene mejor que esto...
@@Felix.v.u No sabía que sonaban igual en vocaloid x__x yo pensaba que solo eran la reutilizacion de audios de V2 a V4 orz,, es lamentable realmente :""3 F
@@AfiqTV99 there were additional parameters visible during the demo a few months ago that were labelled as HOS High, HOS Mid, and HOS Low, as well as HOS Form 1and HOS Form 2. During the demo they kept hiding them for some reason - maybe they wont be available until full release. My theory is HOS stands for "Harmonic Overtone Series" and they might fill out the natural overtones that the og NT was missing
I think this new version uses some kind of A.I. or something, because she kinda sounds like a v6 bank, and looking in the waveform you can see that even when its the same note with the same lyric it makes a different sound, comparing it to the most recent version of NT (not the one on the video), it would have made the same sound, so NT1 makes the same sound when you put 2 notes with the same pitch and lyric while miku NT2 makes a different sound on each note like its processed in 2 different ways.
I feel it's a good base for tuning and encourages tuning. It helps with things newcomers find difficult, like slight pitch fluctuations and vibrato. While doing these small helpful changes it leaves the bigger changes to the user, and I think this is healthy for creativity combined with AI assistance. I understand the perspective of wanting it to completely tune it though, I just view it different.@@corasundae
Just because it’s not Synth V doesn’t mean it ‘doesn’t do much’. It’s enough that anyone can make it sound good with no effort and as someone who lived through early v2…. that’s a lot. Good. Just not dynamite. For dynamite tuning you can do it yourself! And you can do so with greater control and without having to fight the program-something most other vocal synths lack these days.
@@TaelTheFennec V6 does have that thin sort of AI sound, but at least the vowels aren’t distorted and the consonant transitions aren’t choppy like in NT. (SynthV has less noticeable noise, but if you listen to enough voicebanks you start to be able to pick it out.) I doubt Crypton will move to SynthV anytime soon, if ever, so V6 Miku will probably be the only “realistic” Miku voicebank besides V4X for awhile.
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Woah! A lot of improvement in both the voice and parameters! I love her so much! She's very Miku!!!
A slight improvement but really doesn’t hold much over her VOCALOID versions in terms of sound quality.
I don't know, this does is an improvement compared to her previous NT version, but any of her vocaloid voicebanks still sounds better than this, so now I'm only looking forward to Miku V6
This is really a great update for people who don't have enough skills to master the tone and pitch of the voice. Thank you for doing what Yamaha is supposed to do with Vocaloid instead of selling yet another version of a voicebank that really doesn't add anything
I´m anxious to test the update myself, thank you!
she sounds so much better
RIGHT?! She's very clear but still retains the quirkiness of NT I loved dearly.
Still cannot compare with her v2/v2 append
@@aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaoadamn yall are never gonna let that vb go are yall 😭😭😭
你别想太多了，连v3都不如这还叫好？
@@JazyyWazyyTHATS WHAT IM SAYING, people are hearing "NT Update" and thinking its gonna be this crazy overhaul that makes her sound exactly like her V2 (I love her V2 too btw, no hate) when thats not at all what it is, this is how Crypton wants Miku to sound for Piapro NT, and im glad they didnt change it, and im SUPER glad they made her sound more clear
we love you miku
FINALLY! ❤
Nu i zalupa 💕
synthesis is back chat
NT2の本リリースが待ち切れない
miku my beloved, come home
Todos sabemos que la única solución es regrabarla, puede que haya mejorado respecto a la NT pero no es mejor que la V4X
No creo que sea cosa de la grabación, sino más bien el programa en si,,, es cosa de oír los SP que suenan como NT porque son para el piapro(?), o de oir GUMI de SynthV y V6, donde en synthV suena más "limpia" sin ese ruido extra,, o Rose y Popy en cevioAI y synthV que no suenan tan nasal o aireada como en cevio(??.
Lo que se me hace raro del piapro es la voz que no suena plana(? o limpia como del V4 hacia atrás 🤔🤔 también si saki aun puede hacer la voz :'''3
@@idreltde el problema de los SP es que solo son ediciones de audio, en vocaloid los SP suenan igual de mal, la NT tenia unas grabaciones bastante nasales mientras tanto lo único que han hecho en este 2.0 es quitarle eso, si te das cuenta suena muy rara en las transiciones y muchísimo mas entre vocales, casi parece que no tiene además las consonantes suenan bastante raras , NT literalmente casi perece un error al igual que los SP, es lamentable que la V4X suene mejor que esto...
@@Felix.v.u No sabía que sonaban igual en vocaloid x__x yo pensaba que solo eran la reutilizacion de audios de V2 a V4 orz,, es lamentable realmente :""3 F
What happened to the HOS parameters that NT2 had during the previous demo?
@@stove-P HOS?
@@AfiqTV99 there were additional parameters visible during the demo a few months ago that were labelled as HOS High, HOS Mid, and HOS Low, as well as HOS Form 1and HOS Form 2.
During the demo they kept hiding them for some reason - maybe they wont be available until full release. My theory is HOS stands for "Harmonic Overtone Series" and they might fill out the natural overtones that the og NT was missing
@@stove-P oh. I tried looking for the demo but failed to find it (like for the HOS specifically)
i knew i would find you here lol
The versions are different, this demo is 0.3.0.15, and the one in the expo is 0.3.0.5!
Yeah, well. Do you plan to release MEIKO, KAITO, Rin, Len and Luka V6? 😒
No Miku v6 yet????
it's next year, what they announced for this year is NT update besides the SP
@@HopelessAndUselessPerson didn't they say by the end of the year
@@ReiiRei_39 Miku V6 is slated for this year. Crypton is always planning but we don't know if they are gonna stick by their words
I think this new version uses some kind of A.I. or something, because she kinda sounds like a v6 bank, and looking in the waveform you can see that even when its the same note with the same lyric it makes a different sound, comparing it to the most recent version of NT (not the one on the video), it would have made the same sound, so NT1 makes the same sound when you put 2 notes with the same pitch and lyric while miku NT2 makes a different sound on each note like its processed in 2 different ways.
Sorry if my explanation is bad, my English is not that good😅
it’s definitely AI because the voicebank fits in 190MB
YESSSSS
miku!!!
Better but still super nasally!
This is THAT Miku?
The auto pitch tuning doesn't appear to do much.
@@corasundae I think that's a good thing tbh
@@JazyyWazyy if I didn't want it to do anything, not even the most basic of portamento, why would I use it?
I feel it's a good base for tuning and encourages tuning. It helps with things newcomers find difficult, like slight pitch fluctuations and vibrato. While doing these small helpful changes it leaves the bigger changes to the user, and I think this is healthy for creativity combined with AI assistance. I understand the perspective of wanting it to completely tune it though, I just view it different.@@corasundae
Just because it’s not Synth V doesn’t mean it ‘doesn’t do much’. It’s enough that anyone can make it sound good with no effort and as someone who lived through early v2…. that’s a lot. Good. Just not dynamite. For dynamite tuning you can do it yourself! And you can do so with greater control and without having to fight the program-something most other vocal synths lack these days.
@@corasundae gotta be honest, this community ruined any good will I had for auto pitch with it's over use
怎么说呢，就是玩其他厂商剩下的，和Teto,GUMI,洛天依还是有点差距😅
Miku
Melhorou muiito. Sinto ouvindo a Miku de novo. Sem aquele estranho da versão anterior que parecia que ela estava doente 😅
Ehhh....
都2024年了還能見到性能如此拉跨的voicebank🤣🤣
💗💗💗💗
不是，这恐怕不是技术问题了吧？谁负责的这个项目，你真觉得这个好听？？？
我还不如自己用ACE Studio去训练AI初音未来， 2024年了性能就这？
我建议你们下一个ACE Studio，看看友商是怎么标准唱歌的
Just make her a SynthV already
Don't think they want that level of realism.
@corasundae I want it tho 😭
@@TaelTheFennecHopefully we’ll have Miku V6 for realism and Miku NT for the NT sound.
@花乃きのこ The engine noise in V6 is just as bad as NT....I wouldn't call V6 realistic
@@TaelTheFennec V6 does have that thin sort of AI sound, but at least the vowels aren’t distorted and the consonant transitions aren’t choppy like in NT. (SynthV has less noticeable noise, but if you listen to enough voicebanks you start to be able to pick it out.) I doubt Crypton will move to SynthV anytime soon, if ever, so V6 Miku will probably be the only “realistic” Miku voicebank besides V4X for awhile.
真就占个初音未来的名字没别的优势了
当大伙都在往AI，再不济升级V5 V6的时候，C社给我们整出了一个不如V3的声库，第二代了性能还这样，这技术水平就别丢人了好吗，要不学隔壁重音拥抱SV，（teto和洛天依靠这波性能升级已经吸了不少粉丝了）要不就老实保持传统去做V6吧，扶额。😅😅😅
拉跨的要死，性能估计只有Teto的30%，洛天依的40%
Crypton肯定觉得自己做的好了😅😅
电音大的要死，不看还以为是utau
拉中之拉，佐佐木你没那金刚钻别揽瓷器活