Timestamps for those who want to march RIGHT to their favorite Smash Ultimate newcomer: Banjo - 4:10 Byleth - 11:31 Chrom - 2:48 Hero - 9:33 Incineroar - 10:54 Inkling - 11:13 Isabelle - 7:32 Joker - 3:03 Ken - 1:45 King K Rool - 12:08 Min Min - 1:58 Piranha Plant - 0:38 Pyra/Mythra - 13:57 Ridley - 14:15 Sephiroth - 14:56 Simon/Richter - 7:23 Steve - 5:19 Terry - 1:24
In these last two videos, Panda is smart having all the people on a voice call instead of them doing their thing separately. It definitely more entertaining and I appreciate the change in pace.
This is just a perfect synergism of personalities: The nerdy "smasher" who genuinely loves the game and his character, the trash-talking pessimist who's been calloused by the gauntlet, and the chaotic neutral who does and doesn't know what he's doing.
@@thecummonster. certified k rool scrub here. No he doesn't, he's either gonna cheese you at low percents or get a dthrow dash attack, if not just fair you mid stage at 120 and you just explode
@@illegalmemedealer3549 Quick attack out of disadvantage is bad, it's extremely easy to punish if your opponent is even the tiniest bit aware of the option.
@@10cesc4. u didnt see wadis tweet where he said :if esam starts to tilt his head down, he absorbs the power of the sun and is about to blast u with a solar beam. So dont get esam mad
I WOULD have said Steve was pretty small brained, but then I watched ESAM try to do Steve Combos for hours and fail miserably because of how difficult they were. Like dang man, there has to be something to a character if his play is THAT HARD to master.
I honestly think that at high and top level, Steve is actually one of the harder characters out of this list to play, but they judged Steve based on players at Elite Smash levels, where every player of every character plays brain dead
It's probably because their points of view may take into account aspects that are not common for all players. Min Min requires intensive thinking? No, but at top level she requires patience, sharp timing and good spacing to not instantly lose against the more aggressive rushdown characters. Joker requires intensive thinking? Probably not that much. He is combo heavy, but combos just become muscle memory after some time and hardly require much active thinking. You have to keep track of Arsene as to not be put in a bad spot offstage, but managing him is not a very strenuous task either, and other than that he does not have any other 'moving parts' that require constant attention. He does require more mental capacity than Min-min, just not enough to be on a different tier. Going along the same logic, it really wouldn't be fair to put Joker in the same 'Mental Capacity' tier as Hero, who has over a dozen spells that can only be useful in particular situations, as well as Three variation for both Side B, Up B and Neutral B. Nor would it be all that fitting for him to be in the same tier as the Belmonts, who, even at top level, are very avid users of the B Button Flowchart.
Steve is huge brain. His blocks let you do all kinds of stuff, plus you need to manage resources, plus his minecart can pick up enemies, plus you can set up ledge traps, plus he deals different damage when using different materials.
That’s facts bruh. Literally every single Isabelle plays like this. I don’t even get why they play the game if all they do is run away and camp with fishing rod.
I agree with Esam re:Steve. You do have resource management to keep up with, and more limited movement options. And to get all those crazy combos and setups takes a Galaxy brain to do consistently, let alone well
The only thing this list needs to be agreeable is to swap Byleth and Min Min. You see, Min Min's fairly mobile and covers half the stage in hitboxes whenever she wants, whereas Byleth is slow and only covers a _third_ of the stage in hitboxes. *Big* difference.
In isabelle's defense, we have to learn how to use tools that are known for not working half the time, and nailing consistent offstage rod grabs can be challenging.
As a K. Rool main... Good-or even mediocre K. Rool players are galaxy brain. I, on the other hand am rather unga bunga. So much so that I almost misspelled "bunga."
First the PG Stats data, now this...it's a dream for my online K Rool. I have to be so freaking skilled and my brain is so huge, while my greninja friend is just carried lol
Ok first of all, you have to mine a ton of iron to really spam minecart, also you need gold otherwise the x or y button makes it garbage. You need to mine at galaxy brain times to get it. One thing that is underestimated is how hard mining optimally is. You have to win neutral, get like 4 items, then you are back with your opponent able to hit you if you mine.
I agree with esam on steve being galaxy brain. Like sure, a lot of steves are gonna span minecart but its not going to be as effective on offline. And his combos... Oh boy.
i don't play steve, but i actually agree with Esam, watching steves in tourny play, you're either big braining or you get molly whopped. there's no in between.
The reason most people thing K Rool is a bit unga bunga or even glue sniffing is because no human being as ever eaten enough beans to be anywhere near optimal King K Rool
Thanks to marss for putting respect for Joker. He’s very hard to play. Solo Joker requires very competent playing to succeed. Even with Arsene, you only have a short time limit to use it. You have to play *even better* than you usually do to circumvent players camping the arsene timer. Very few of Joker’s moves have priority. You have to outsmart the opponent to win.
As a K Rool main, what keeps him from atleast glue sniffing is the armor mechanic. You must keep an eye on it's condition just so you wouldn't let it break.
I used k rool to unlock all the rest of the character when the game first came out by just dash attacking and downthrow forward smashing when they where at kill percentage if that’s not eating beans then I don’t know what is
Timestamps for those who want to march RIGHT to their favorite Smash Ultimate newcomer:
Banjo - 4:10
Byleth - 11:31
Chrom - 2:48
Hero - 9:33
Incineroar - 10:54
Inkling - 11:13
Isabelle - 7:32
Joker - 3:03
Ken - 1:45
King K Rool - 12:08
Min Min - 1:58
Piranha Plant - 0:38
Pyra/Mythra - 13:57
Ridley - 14:15
Sephiroth - 14:56
Simon/Richter - 7:23
Steve - 5:19
Terry - 1:24
In these last two videos, Panda is smart having all the people on a voice call instead of them doing their thing separately. It definitely more entertaining and I appreciate the change in pace.
You should put this in the description to use the youtube chapters feature
You da mvp
Thanks for the King K. Rool timestamp.
The way these timestamps are ordered are either pretty galaxy brain or glue huffin ngl hahaha
This is just a perfect synergism of personalities: The nerdy "smasher" who genuinely loves the game and his character, the trash-talking pessimist who's been calloused by the gauntlet, and the chaotic neutral who does and doesn't know what he's doing.
@Cody Wang yes
CAN CONFIRM, I AM THE FRIEND HE IS ARGUING WITH
@Cody Wang I thought the pessimist was WaDi, he was the one who wanted to put everyone in glue tier
@@focusreaper4685 AMEN BROTHER
@@focusreaper4685 NO. wadi is chaotic. marss just has a 6th sense for gluue sniffers
Three top players having a civilized discussion about snorting adhesive
Yo whaddup?
@@colinandes5430 Andesite
@@KingBobbyG1223 yes
@@KingBobbyG1223 trueeeeeee
I never actually ate crayons it was a joke
Hi
No stop trying to cover your tracks everyone ate paper, crayons or glue as a kid
You had better opinions in this video, sorry WaDi and Marss
Sure...
I put a rock in my ear one time
I would religiously watch a podcast with this lineup
I love this idea
@@PandaGlobal WaDi Wonders
Holy shit me too, I was just thinking that actually. Their personalities mesh so well
Like tweek's videos or leffen's
Just think "PGchats"
@@PandaGlobal @Taillord here just gave you a perfect name
They say Ken and Terry are Glue huffin when we've all seen that at least Marss and ESam can't effectively play either of them
Agreeeeeed
@Gort I gotta agree with you, but they are bait and punish characters, so ya'll running into that yourselves.
@Gort Wait is that seriously the problem? The turnaround mechanics lol. I play ken and it rarely comes into play
@@bk-xs2pw As a Terry player, I feel like it comes up a lot, especially when the idiots don't get the hint of not to roll it constantly
@@hyperbolic3259 yeah Terry definitely benefits from it alot, not so much for Ken or ryu as their down tilt is not as good
Fun fact: Marss is friends with joker persona 5
Chippy
OK but fr Joker Galaxy Brain imo.
And neighbors with Sephiroth from Final Fantasy XII
for real?!?
The chippy joker cosplay I’m fucking weak 💀
ESAM: “Krool uses only three moves”
Wadi: “But he looks good doing it”
Marss: Truueee
Mars and Wadi, confirmed Scalies.
To be fair he has to work for his kills and set ups unlike the majority of the cast while also staying alive.
@@thecummonster. certified k rool scrub here. No he doesn't, he's either gonna cheese you at low percents or get a dthrow dash attack, if not just fair you mid stage at 120 and you just explode
@@thecummonster. Yeah, you already are speaking whack
A Pikachu main, a ZSS main and a ROB main talk about how braindead other characters are
Dknt forget about Samus and Mewtwo
zss sux
So I guess you have never played Pika nor ZSS ever before?
@@dragoknight1832 ah yes, the incredibly big-brain gameplay of “flipkick/quick attack out of disadvantage”
@@illegalmemedealer3549 Quick attack out of disadvantage is bad, it's extremely easy to punish if your opponent is even the tiniest bit aware of the option.
K. Rool's the only newcomer who was also a scientist, that automatically makes him Galaxy Brain
Heh
To be fair tho Ridley is really smart as well, smart enough to create a own Robot version of himself
@@ddxart2874 Oh yeah
Now I wanna see who would win, Kaos vs. Mecha Ridley
Steve is a potion brewer, doesnt that make him a scientist too?
@@nochillrabbit8410 Potion brewer, writer, blacksmith, interdimensional explorer, builder, farmer, tradesman, warrior. He's got all the professions.
This turned into a coney tier list with wadi’s tiers
WaDi arguing with ESAM and Marss just saying TRUUEE to WaDi the whole time is so good
WaDi migth be 100% wrong, but he looks great doing it
Idk I’ll die on the Isabelle hill with him. If you’ve played the isabelle bot you’ve played every isabelle on the planet
ESAM and Marss didn't need to bring out the PGR numbers bro, rip wadi
You know they had to do it to 'em
Wadi gave espam the L until marss saved him
I would be scared if Wadi and Esam were in the same room
Heisenberg
Why?! Espam wouldn't do anything but run away
@@10cesc4. u didnt see wadis tweet where he said :if esam starts to tilt his head down, he absorbs the power of the sun and is about to blast u with a solar beam. So dont get esam mad
While Cat Who cares? Just slap his head and he'll crack like an egg. That's not terrifying, that's a free breakfast!
@@AarturoSc concerning
I WOULD have said Steve was pretty small brained, but then I watched ESAM try to do Steve Combos for hours and fail miserably because of how difficult they were. Like dang man, there has to be something to a character if his play is THAT HARD to master.
He’s Glue Huffin
I honestly think that at high and top level, Steve is actually one of the harder characters out of this list to play, but they judged Steve based on players at Elite Smash levels, where every player of every character plays brain dead
Steve is top tier and bottom tier at the same time.
if we’re considering elite smashers every character would be bottom tier glue eaters lets be real
esam is like the person in the group project trying to keep everyone on task. hes trying
He's not sus 😌
We live in a timeline where pro players think Joker and Min Min take the same mental capacity to play.
It's probably because their points of view may take into account aspects that are not common for all players.
Min Min requires intensive thinking? No, but at top level she requires patience, sharp timing and good spacing to not instantly lose against the more aggressive rushdown characters.
Joker requires intensive thinking? Probably not that much. He is combo heavy, but combos just become muscle memory after some time and hardly require much active thinking. You have to keep track of Arsene as to not be put in a bad spot offstage, but managing him is not a very strenuous task either, and other than that he does not have any other 'moving parts' that require constant attention.
He does require more mental capacity than Min-min, just not enough to be on a different tier. Going along the same logic, it really wouldn't be fair to put Joker in the same 'Mental Capacity' tier as Hero, who has over a dozen spells that can only be useful in particular situations, as well as Three variation for both Side B, Up B and Neutral B. Nor would it be all that fitting for him to be in the same tier as the Belmonts, who, even at top level, are very avid users of the B Button Flowchart.
@@deltastudios6632 man I'm not reading that. good for you though.
Joker takes mental strength until you get arsene,after that your concerns are how to get on stage.
Maybe you belong to the glue sniffing category 🤔 lol
@@shlepping704 you should at least read some of it if not all of it as this is very insightful to how a competitive player thinks.
"im putting him below Plant because.... I like its smile."
LMAOOOOOO
Steve is in between Unga Bunga and galaxy brain.
There really is no in-between with Steve, you either face Unga Bunga or Galaxy Brain
Steve can be genius but you dont need to be
@@treedude4246 Steve is better played as a genius
For some reason, I want them do this for every game newcomers, like they would go over characters that were introduced in smash 4
This MAY be the plan
MAY
I like that you got them all together talking in a call rather than separate recordings clipped together. It adds to the “team” aspect of panda.
Wadi: you guys belong in the unga bunga
Marss: YESSSIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRRRR
Steve is one of those characters that has a lot of potential to be galaxy brain, but also has massively unga-bunga strats that work just as well
Steve is huge brain. His blocks let you do all kinds of stuff, plus you need to manage resources, plus his minecart can pick up enemies, plus you can set up ledge traps, plus he deals different damage when using different materials.
8:02 Wadi, you have just summed up how I feel about Isabelle. I’m so glad a top player feels the same as I.
That’s facts bruh. Literally every single Isabelle plays like this. I don’t even get why they play the game if all they do is run away and camp with fishing rod.
I agree with Esam re:Steve. You do have resource management to keep up with, and more limited movement options. And to get all those crazy combos and setups takes a Galaxy brain to do consistently, let alone well
Duuuude Steve takes so much big brain skills to play because you have to be a combo god to know what you're doing with him!
The Chrom Jab Part killed me
Commenting for the algorithm but again!
Also Panda, thanks once again for adding WaDi, he’s hilarious.
@@PandaGlobal Yup! I appreciate the new style in content too, with it being a video call.
i don’t think you realise how much I need a podcast with these three as hosts and with other smash pros as guests every week
I think the thumbnail is really funny, one of my personal fafavorites
These three work so well together. Good stuff
Esam is 100% right on Steve, but whatever
He is the only big brain in their group
Trueeee
These VC collabs..... Panda you know what to keep doing >;)
The only thing this list needs to be agreeable is to swap Byleth and Min Min.
You see, Min Min's fairly mobile and covers half the stage in hitboxes whenever she wants, whereas Byleth is slow and only covers a _third_ of the stage in hitboxes. *Big* difference.
as a Byleth main. Yes
Yeah Byleth requires you to actually play the game
while Min MIn swings her disjointed arms
The only time I disagree with marss is the placement of steve I think steve is unga bunga or galaxy brain
You guys were very close to discussing Banjo’s breegull blaster ladders and tech 😔 would have bumped him up to unga
In isabelle's defense, we have to learn how to use tools that are known for not working half the time, and nailing consistent offstage rod grabs can be challenging.
They're both just trolling ESAM and i find this energy appealing. ty pandas!
Most wifi players have proved to me that the 'B' in King K Rool stands for brain.
Disclaimer: Am a King K Rool main
bUt tHeRe Is nO b In kInG k RoOl
Same
Krok gang
So am I
rool gang
@@misaeltejeda7768 K Rool gang
Wadi is the new coney, just making tiers
I love that WaDi matches Marss's energy and then there's just Esam trying to have a coherent conversation with them
I actually think Steve is top 3 hardest characters in the game
Thank you ESAM for advocating for us Steve mains. These guys have no clue how big of a brain it takes to play Funny Block Man.
@Cookie Kid bruh you haven’t played an actual good Steve have you
@Cookie Kid u should play one, my Steve is low key trash even though I main him. Watch esams vid vs yonni
Steve I'd galaxy brain, I gotchu esam
As a K. Rool main...
Good-or even mediocre K. Rool players are galaxy brain.
I, on the other hand am rather unga bunga. So much so that I almost misspelled "bunga."
Oingo Boingo
Could probably use another tier or two, but really cool premise! Can’t wait to see if there’s another installment
These guys have great chemistry, absolutely love it
I think there shouldve been a tier between unga bunga and galaxy brain, for "elite smash unga bunga but high level galaxy brain"
Marss used to be my favourite until he said Steve is glue huffin.
He’s still my favourite regardless though.
First the PG Stats data, now this...it's a dream for my online K Rool. I have to be so freaking skilled and my brain is so huge, while my greninja friend is just carried lol
This is the first time anyone has ever called a Greninja main carried lmao.
@@amphibiansriseup596 hopefully the first of many
when wadi said that esam "might not be the best rat" he looked so personally offended and upset
I love how halfway through this tier list it turned into the the Roast of WaDi.
Ok first of all, you have to mine a ton of iron to really spam minecart, also you need gold otherwise the x or y button makes it garbage. You need to mine at galaxy brain times to get it. One thing that is underestimated is how hard mining optimally is. You have to win neutral, get like 4 items, then you are back with your opponent able to hit you if you mine.
As a sephiroth main, ESAM spoke a lot of truth
I agree with esam on steve being galaxy brain. Like sure, a lot of steves are gonna span minecart but its not going to be as effective on offline. And his combos... Oh boy.
As an Isabelle main, I can confirm that WaDi accurately described my gameplan.
This video is either Marss and ESAM bullying WaDi or Marss and WaDi bullying ESAM
Happy to see WaDi and Marss vouching for K. Rool mains.
So am I
i don't play steve, but i actually agree with Esam, watching steves in tourny play, you're either big braining or you get molly whopped. there's no in between.
EATIN BEANS with my boy King K. Rool
So am I!
rool gang
We eatin them beans
5:00
Talking a lot of smack, we must need a WaDi-Marss Banjo ditto ft10 to determine the TRUE gamer.
The dynamic between these three is just perfect
Love the chemistry between you 3, would love to see more stuff between all of you
Wadi came and took over Panda!! Definitely favorite one
The reason most people thing K Rool is a bit unga bunga or even glue sniffing is because no human being as ever eaten enough beans to be anywhere near optimal King K Rool
tbh i feel like steve is THE character to master- all of the tech you can use with him and ledge trapping is like, universe brain
As much as I love Marss, Esam is right in Steve galaxy brain for optimal.
Wadi and marss just bring so much chaotic energy that esam can't deal with it
We need more content like this omg.
Think?? While playing smash??? Couldn’t be me.
Steve is still a super complicated character to play well, he didn't deserve glue huffin and puffin
@Panda we need more collabs like this!! Love them
K rool is easy to play. But you really do need a big brain to outsmart his worst matchups
This is definitely true.
3:57 that perfect synch between marss and ESAM
Richter stans snort glue, Simon chads are more galaxy than the milky way, don't you dare trash on my boy Simon.
Surprisingly I agree with Esam on the Steve thing and he said that falcon is too 15 once and doesn’t think daisy is the worst character in the game
Panda can not miss recently. This video is heat
Banjo and kazooie side b is the definition of glue eating
At least they have 5shots per stock but how is min min not bottom?
This was some of the funniest smash content I've ever seen. I hurt my sides laughing
PLEASE MORE CONTENT WITH ALL OF THEM TOGETHER LIKE THIS
Now this is the peak content I live for.
Steve is galaxy brain
LMFAO this is the type of stuff I love! Three prominent players going off about the roster.
steve has a dumb offense but his defenseive block building is galaxy brain
Agree with esams steve take
WaDi and Coney share the same mindset, they need more tiers
Steve is either galaxy brain or molecular brain, there is no in between.
Thanks to marss for putting respect for Joker. He’s very hard to play. Solo Joker requires very competent playing to succeed. Even with Arsene, you only have a short time limit to use it. You have to play *even better* than you usually do to circumvent players camping the arsene timer. Very few of Joker’s moves have priority. You have to outsmart the opponent to win.
As a K Rool main, what keeps him from atleast glue sniffing is the armor mechanic.
You must keep an eye on it's condition just so you wouldn't let it break.
Steve is on the same tier as the Air Traffic Control guy from Airplane, except that he acknowledges every day is a bad day to stop sniffing glue...
I agree where u put king k rool... I’m not biased because I main him at all...
As a Sheik main seeing a ROB main,Pikachu main and ZSS main talk about how brain dead other characters are is funny af
WaDi's subscribe transition ooh baby A1
That k rool looks like zomboss from PvZ
clearly steve is galaxy brain
Mars is the most self aware person here
I used k rool to unlock all the rest of the character when the game first came out by just dash attacking and downthrow forward smashing when they where at kill percentage if that’s not eating beans then I don’t know what is