Thank you so much, Mark!!! You are an excellent teacher and explain things thoroughly!!! Thank you for all the small details in walking us through this!!
You teach with great clarity. I drawn to Evoto as I've just spent 6 hours on a lightroom photoshop edit as I normally do, and I'm still not finished! But the round trip file handling still makes me nervous. Thanks
@@MarkWallaceVideos @devaniemccartney8611 is correct. I can only view the Evoto Edits in the Library Module. When you view the file in the Develop Module, all the Evoto Edits are missing. Is this not happening on your end? BTW, Great job on this video.
Sorry to spam you. I just right-clicked on the file while in the Develop Module and selected Metadata>Read Metadata From File, which solved the problem.
OMG! I guess I misread that checkbox so I've been exporting YET another TIFF file after LR creates the first one, filling up my hard drive with this clunky workflow...THANK YOU
Thanks for the video! I am having problems with having the option to edit in Evoto show up in LRC. I only have the option to edit in Photoshop. Both Programs are updated to latest version. Any suggestions? I do use a Windows computer.
Great explanation - just zoom to just over 9 mins of chatting to where Mark tells us about the check box thing. That's the nub of the video. It has helped me enormously now I know this. Thanks
Thank you very much Mark! Though I feel this video could have been 5 minutes long instead of 15, many repeating parts, but that is just constructive criticism, this is not hate in any way, I love your videos. Thank you for your time and sharing this new feature! :) - ALSO IMPORTANT to keep in mind, at 11:41 we can see how much the space needed is multiplying, from a 50Mb RAW file, into 2 additional temporary files that sum up to 520Mb (262Mb each) and this is just 1 image, if you have a batch of say 100 or 1000 images this could BLOW UP exponentially so be carefull when using this feature. Peace ✨✨🖤🖤
Yep, the files can eat up a hard drive. You face the same issue exporting to Photoshop or any app that creates a new TIFF. The Tiff is not a temporary file, it becomes the new working file in LR after the roundtrip. Luckily storage space is pretty inexpensive these days.
@@MarkWallaceVideos Currently loading 170 photos via your method shown here. What do you typically do with the raw files and TIFF files after a project is done, say a few months later? Do you compress/zip them, and store for later?
Hi! Thanks so much for this really helpful video. My question is: i followed your instructions to a T, but my changes from Evoto didn't transfer over to LR. Any idea what may have gone wrong?
@@MarkWallaceVideos I'm having the same issue. I have the tiff file Evoto made when I told lightroom to edit in evoto. However, when I export from evoto, it saves to my hard drive as a new tiff file and I have to manually upload back into lightroom.
Great video and explanation! Is it possible to take a group of headshots (different people) and batch edit this same way using some of the Evoto edits? ie teeth whitening, skin softening etc? or only if the portrait is the same individual?
Great Video. May I just ask, as I am new to Evoto, it will cost you a credit to export each time you do this correct? but does the same rule apply like it does when you re-export the same photo from Evoto to a normal export file? ie: It doesn't cost you a credit each time for the same photo. I just wanted to check that before I go down this route. Also for those Lightroom CC/Desktop users out there, I just tried this and it works.
It only costs one credit per photo. Once you export it's 1 credit. If you do a new edit on that same photo and export, no new charge. You can modify and export as much as you want - 1 photo: 1 credit.
this is great. just found out about EVOTO today! thank you. one question. i am assuming we want to edit the photo in LR first before sending it into EVOTO since we lose the RAW when going into EVOTO.
Dumb question, but is there a goog method to go back and forth between the two? I import to LR, rate my keepers a 3, export directly to Evoto, edit and then exort back to LR where I create a virtual copy and turn them to black and white then do the photo reveal with client, moving our final selections to 5 stars. I'd like to further edit in Evoto, but not sure of how to go about syncing my rating updates/b&w conversions.
Hi Mark! Thanks for your insight. I was curious about exporting as JPG from LR to edit because I normally do that and select "sharpen for screen, standard." Do you notice any difference by not doing that in terms of sharpness? Thanks again! Happy holidays
Sharpening should always be done as the very last step in your process, and it depends on where the photo is going to be used (screen, small screen, print, etc). In this workflow sharpening and exporting as JPG would really downgrade your image. Instead - export to Evoto and do all your edits - import back into LR. Then you can export the FINAL image as a jpg and add sharpening. This allows you to get the very best results.
In Adobe Camera Raw (ACR) you can make your adjustments and then save the file from ACR as a TIFF file. Then open the TIFF in Evoto, make your edits, and then open that in Photoshop. Hopefully Evoto will create a plug-in so Evoto can be used as a filter in the future.
No, you'll have to export the file from Photoshop (I use TIFF) then open and edit in Evoto. After you've finished your Evoto Edits bring the image back into Photoshop by opening the file or placing it as a new layer.
Why are you only using resolution 240 instead of 300 to go to lightroom? Isn't that reducing the file? When I go to edit in Evoto, the settings default to Tiff, 240, and zip... I keep having to change to that 240 and the zip... How do I get it to use the same settings every time?
To set your defaults, go to Preferences->External Editing and choose "edit in Evoto" in the "additional external Editor" dropbox. You can set everything up there precisely as you'd like it. :)
In my view, the backup file is unnecessary and creates an additional file that I will need to delete later, especially when I edit a lot of files. Since I already have the RAW file, the edits are inherently non-destructive. I hope Evoto will consider making this backup file optional.
@@MarkWallaceVideosHighly doubt they’ll do this because they charge you for exports if you’re not exporting they’re not making money. I’ve asked them to change to a subscription model they said they haven’t considered a change in the pay structure.
Great Evoto ❤
Thank you for this video! I absolutely LOVE Evoto, it’s a game changer for my business, and this integration video was hugely helpful!!
Glad to help! Evoto is a fantastic program.
Thank you so much, Mark!!! You are an excellent teacher and explain things thoroughly!!! Thank you for all the small details in walking us through this!!
Thank you for this video!
You teach with great clarity. I drawn to Evoto as I've just spent 6 hours on a lightroom photoshop edit as I normally do, and I'm still not finished! But the round trip file handling still makes me nervous. Thanks
Thanks! Exactly what I needed to know, hope in future updates they leave the box 'A non-RAW...' checked instead of every time I need to check it.
This was fantastic, thank you so much!
So helpful! Thank you!
Thank you so much for this awesome video!!
You bet!
Thank you! for me the Evoto edit only shows up in library and not in the develop module, is that correct?
@@devaniemccartney8611 yep. Then you can always click it and open it in the develop module.
@@MarkWallaceVideos When I open it in the develop module the edit goes away
@@MarkWallaceVideos @devaniemccartney8611 is correct. I can only view the Evoto Edits in the Library Module. When you view the file in the Develop Module, all the Evoto Edits are missing. Is this not happening on your end? BTW, Great job on this video.
Sorry to spam you. I just right-clicked on the file while in the Develop Module and selected Metadata>Read Metadata From File, which solved the problem.
@ 11:11 😉
OMG! I guess I misread that checkbox so I've been exporting YET another TIFF file after LR creates the first one, filling up my hard drive with this clunky workflow...THANK YOU
Glad I could help!
Thank you for this! Great video
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks for the video! I am having problems with having the option to edit in Evoto show up in LRC. I only have the option to edit in Photoshop. Both Programs are updated to latest version. Any suggestions? I do use a Windows computer.
Great explanation - just zoom to just over 9 mins of chatting to where Mark tells us about the check box thing. That's the nub of the video. It has helped me enormously now I know this. Thanks
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you very much Mark! Though I feel this video could have been 5 minutes long instead of 15, many repeating parts, but that is just constructive criticism, this is not hate in any way, I love your videos. Thank you for your time and sharing this new feature! :) - ALSO IMPORTANT to keep in mind, at 11:41 we can see how much the space needed is multiplying, from a 50Mb RAW file, into 2 additional temporary files that sum up to 520Mb (262Mb each) and this is just 1 image, if you have a batch of say 100 or 1000 images this could BLOW UP exponentially so be carefull when using this feature. Peace ✨✨🖤🖤
Yep, the files can eat up a hard drive. You face the same issue exporting to Photoshop or any app that creates a new TIFF. The Tiff is not a temporary file, it becomes the new working file in LR after the roundtrip. Luckily storage space is pretty inexpensive these days.
@@MarkWallaceVideos Currently loading 170 photos via your method shown here. What do you typically do with the raw files and TIFF files after a project is done, say a few months later? Do you compress/zip them, and store for later?
Will this work for Capture One?
Hi! Thanks so much for this really helpful video. My question is: i followed your instructions to a T, but my changes from Evoto didn't transfer over to LR. Any idea what may have gone wrong?
@@jennahidinger Check LR to see if you have a filter applied (only show flagged, starred, etc). That may hide the image from your view.
@@MarkWallaceVideos I'm having the same issue. I have the tiff file Evoto made when I told lightroom to edit in evoto. However, when I export from evoto, it saves to my hard drive as a new tiff file and I have to manually upload back into lightroom.
can you only do one photo at a time? id love to do a batch, especially if I'm synching settings in evoto. thanks
Thank you so much
You're most welcome
Great video and explanation! Is it possible to take a group of headshots (different people) and batch edit this same way using some of the Evoto edits? ie teeth whitening, skin softening etc? or only if the portrait is the same individual?
Great Video. May I just ask, as I am new to Evoto, it will cost you a credit to export each time you do this correct? but does the same rule apply like it does when you re-export the same photo from Evoto to a normal export file? ie: It doesn't cost you a credit each time for the same photo. I just wanted to check that before I go down this route. Also for those Lightroom CC/Desktop users out there, I just tried this and it works.
It only costs one credit per photo. Once you export it's 1 credit. If you do a new edit on that same photo and export, no new charge. You can modify and export as much as you want - 1 photo: 1 credit.
@ perfect thanks !!
Thanks
No problem
this is great. just found out about EVOTO today! thank you. one question. i am assuming we want to edit the photo in LR first before sending it into EVOTO since we lose the RAW when going into EVOTO.
@@DavidGannon yes. Or you can import the RAW file directly into Evoto and edit everything there.
@@MarkWallaceVideos thanks for the fast reply! working on that now! This program is amazeballs!
@ it is! I have a few other Evoto videos on my channel. Don’t miss them. The new color match is pretty amazing.
Dumb question, but is there a goog method to go back and forth between the two? I import to LR, rate my keepers a 3, export directly to Evoto, edit and then exort back to LR where I create a virtual copy and turn them to black and white then do the photo reveal with client, moving our final selections to 5 stars. I'd like to further edit in Evoto, but not sure of how to go about syncing my rating updates/b&w conversions.
Just curious, why overwrite the metadata from Evoto?
Just like my issue with Luminar Neo, there's no option for TIFF COMPRESSION, a 29mb raw file to 86mb tiff lol
thanks alot :)
You're welcome!
Hi Mark! Thanks for your insight. I was curious about exporting as JPG from LR to edit because I normally do that and select "sharpen for screen, standard." Do you notice any difference by not doing that in terms of sharpness? Thanks again! Happy holidays
Sharpening should always be done as the very last step in your process, and it depends on where the photo is going to be used (screen, small screen, print, etc). In this workflow sharpening and exporting as JPG would really downgrade your image. Instead - export to Evoto and do all your edits - import back into LR. Then you can export the FINAL image as a jpg and add sharpening. This allows you to get the very best results.
@@MarkWallaceVideosthis is extremely helpful info. Thank you!! 🙏🏼
Good
Thanks
Does this cost a credit to flip back and forth from LR to evoto and back?
It does, when you export from Evoto it costs one credit, but only the first time you export the photo.
Thank you, how about the presets, can you share or can I import new presets from someone else? Thanks
What would the steps be if I am using camera raw...can I import into Evoto,and as usual save it into my computer, or if I want into Photoshop?
In Adobe Camera Raw (ACR) you can make your adjustments and then save the file from ACR as a TIFF file. Then open the TIFF in Evoto, make your edits, and then open that in Photoshop. Hopefully Evoto will create a plug-in so Evoto can be used as a filter in the future.
Would this method also be possible with Photoshop and Evoto?
No, you'll have to export the file from Photoshop (I use TIFF) then open and edit in Evoto. After you've finished your Evoto Edits bring the image back into Photoshop by opening the file or placing it as a new layer.
Thank you 👍🏻
Why are you only using resolution 240 instead of 300 to go to lightroom? Isn't that reducing the file? When I go to edit in Evoto, the settings default to Tiff, 240, and zip... I keep having to change to that 240 and the zip... How do I get it to use the same settings every time?
240 is just the pixels per inch, not the image size. ua-cam.com/video/zDd7C4d0R4U/v-deo.htmlsi=e64rc_0PtGKcyjgM
To set your defaults, go to Preferences->External Editing and choose "edit in Evoto" in the "additional external Editor" dropbox. You can set everything up there precisely as you'd like it. :)
In my view, the backup file is unnecessary and creates an additional file that I will need to delete later, especially when I edit a lot of files. Since I already have the RAW file, the edits are inherently non-destructive. I hope Evoto will consider making this backup file optional.
I will pass that along to Evoto
Can this round trip appy to Photoshop?
@@JuliusMoore-yu7bv Unfortunately not. I'm waiting for Evoto to create a filter or plug-in for Photoshop. Hopefully soon.
The auto back up file is how evoto can justify charging you for an edit because it’s an export
@@MarkWallaceVideosHighly doubt they’ll do this because they charge you for exports if you’re not exporting they’re not making money. I’ve asked them to change to a subscription model they said they haven’t considered a change in the pay structure.