New Change in the Map - 23: Armenia Cedes Land to Azerbaijan
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- Опубліковано 22 кві 2024
- Armenia agrees to cede several border towns to Azerbaijan, continuing the ongoing peace process.
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What should we do ?
Armenia: There is nothing we can do...
A nation cursed by geography.
Dans mon esprit tout divague
Je me perds dans tes yeux
Je me noie dans la vague de ton regard amoureux
@@Distress. Many more things than geography it seems like
Azerbaijan is such a suppressor, and likely a Turkish pawn.
@@GenericUA-camGuy lol. Azerbaijan wants what rightfully and legally owns
They just can't catch a break
Yes, free Armenia
bro look at armenia in like 100 bc, we lost so much😭😭
It’s disgraceful, the Azerbaijanis are warmongers.
Maybe don't occupy your neighbors internationally recognized territory for 30+ years
@@nenenindonu they are also occupying Armenian border villages, dont try to make this about one side
Babe wake up, new change in the map just dropped
I don't know anything about Puntland, but I like their name, they have a good flag, and seceding from Somalia worked well enough when Somaliland did it, so I'm on their side until I learn more about the situation.
I believe that the Somalian president is pushing for a constitutional amendment which transfers most of the powers of the prime minister/legislature/states to himself to better fight unrest (effectively making himself a dictator). But since Puntland doesn’t face much of that unrest justifying that power grab and already has a very autonomous government, they’re declaring a sort of pseudo-independence until the amendments transferring Puntland’s authority to the president are stopped.
Idiots on Facebook accusing Ilhan Omar of designing Minnesota's new flag to look like Puntland's.
You could say they ultimately punted the issue
I think Puntland is used as a DAESH base, there was even fighting between DAESH and Al-SHABAAB (a Somali yihad) in Puntland territory a few days ago.
@@of1564 Aw shucks, that doesn't sound nice at all.
I wish peace to Armenia and hope their culture won't be lost.
Not to worry, they'll be a significant minority for quite a while even after being annexed. Converting a culture with low cultural acceptance and another religion causes a significant debuff to conversion speed.
@@MichaelDavis-mk4me unfortunately the turks found a way around this
No
@@NekroleinchenFortunately*
@@AsilDuranUlusoy maybe it will happen to your people too sometimes. can't say i would be sorry if it did
Armenia, The Poland of Caucasus
The monster of Belavezha
you all rlly need to check their history instead of treating them like sheeps in the caucasus it's getting embarassing at this point
@@jellie00 You are right. The Armenians used to migrate to several places! Like the lake near Van, Turkey. Until they were kicked out by the Romans (Roman Armenia) and next.. by the Turks, even the Turks massacred the Armenians in The Great War. Oh and Armenia had many interesting kings.
Armenia was the bully first. Stealing lands and killing people all with Russia's permission 😑
Turkey and Azerbaijan like your comment
Everyone talks about appeasement with Russia as if peace itself was appeasement but when Azerbaijan makes repeated demands and is never satisfied the world is just like “ok, that’s cool”
No no, you don't understand, they are on OUR side! It's fineee~
@@Ocelot835 Oh yeah, and Armenia is also on our side. Unfortunately, if Armenia and Azerbaijan go to war, it'll be a 1v1.
its cuz pointing to armenia on the map is hard, theyre not even necessarily in europe
armenia was still the quite aligned-russian country, while Azerbaijan, being a Turkish ally/proxy has obviously more cooperation with NATO, and indeed it had a higher degree of NATO cooperation than Armenia. Right now it's different, but as Turkey it's a NATO member and would try to satisfy it's token against Iran I doubt that Armenia will get support from anyone in the close future
@@SteveInLava in the beginning of the conflict it was actually one V one and Armenia had the advantage
Then the Azeris started receiving substantial support from Turkey and Israel
its so over
It’s Joever 😔😔😔
they're cooked
Artsakhbros, we're cooked
I feel really sorry for the Armenians they can't catch a break.
They're probably in the worst spot to be in as a nation geopolitically.
(There is an argument to be made that this is worse than the Balkans btw.)
I hope they're able to find peace and secure their remaining borders.
Well, yes and no! Why no one (Azerbaijan and Turkey) has any issues with the neighboring Georgia? Georgia is also in the same geographic position. In fact, Christian Georgia and Muslim Azerbaijan have much deeper and friendly relationship. We should go back in time and ask why all these wars happened in the past couple decades with Armenia and not Georgia?
@@jamesgultekin6244 Russia has invaded Georgia and tried to create the breakaway regions of Abkhazia and South Ossetia. So uh... yeah.
Abkhazia*@@GlaceonStudios
@@GlaceonStudiosLast time I checked, Azerbaijan got its independence from Russia a while ago
@@Loggog thank you, my bad.
I wish this series was called "History of the World: Every Second"
It's so detailed that it shows the events in real time!
thats just the news
@@badusername9903 you did it, you figured out the point of the joke! Congratulations
*the ongoing piece by piece process.
nope, that land was ours. read abt the first karabakh war. they started it
@@letsplaywithmegacyborg3098shut up Turkified Caucasian
@@letsplaywithmegacyborg3098 hmmm
Rightful Azerbaijani lands stolen by Armenia.
@@letsplaywithmegacyborg3098Azerbaijan is still the side that does ethnic cleansing and destroys churches older than their entire nation. You should be ashamed.
Armenia is basically living in Spain without the S
Are you a bot
@@ScourgeoftengriTurk spotted. Opinion discarded.
@tylerbozinovski427 no I'm genuinely asking like I see this guy everywhere I'm just curious
And it always sounds like some bot type of stuff
@@tylerbozinovski427İs it your or our opinions that are being discarded? Seems like things are happening as we want them to.
oh my god stop taking land from armenia 😭😭😭
Oh not again
the villages are ours. cope.
@@letsplaywithmegacyborg3098psychopaths, and a small military bullying an even smaller neighbor. You have no honor and pride
@@gorkaaustin5306 bro, they gave been bullying us with russia for decades now. Armenia is the one that has no pride. Those villages are ours. Maybe do better research
@@gorkaaustin5306your invasions are ending schizos keep playing the victim
@@gorkaaustin5306 Those villages are rightfully Azeri, learn before embarrassing yourself.
Lord knows I'm first in line for a new change in the map. Thanks, EmperorTigerstar.
Ive been to both countries. Loved the people of both nations. Hopefully one day they can find peace with each other. They have more in common with each other than they care to admit. Love and peace from Ireland
I thought Azerbaijan just annexed all of Armenia because of the thumbnail
It was never their goal they just wants the land their people lived in to be returned to them
That might come at some point unfortunately.
Wait for the next episode of the series.
@@chimera9818 That is their goal, have you seen their bs about "Western Azerbaijan"?
@@alenlivaisounds awesome
Thanks!
Why must the Turkic occupants be so mean to Armenia, the long established inhabitants of that region? Do they not care about the rightful history of those people? Just as others should accept the rightful history of the Turks in central Asia (Turkistan). It goes for all people; every culture has a history and a place in the world where they belong, not to be occupying the land of other civilizations.
Turkey and Azerbaijan are literally built on lands of other nations. Google any Turkish city and you’ll find that it’s either an Ancient Greek or Armenian city
@@Qwertyasdf923with this logic, all nations in earth should return to their root lands
@@StalkerX426 I don't care about all other nations, and that's not even true. Paris was built by French people, they didn't come and take it. Berlin was built by Germans, etc. Moscow was built by Russians. WHO built Constantinople? Who built Smyrna that turks put on fire (google burning of Smyrna). Who built Van, Karin, Ani (that is now destroyed)? Guess you know the asnwer, and the answer is NOT TURKS. They just took it massacring tens of thousands of people. See the difference.
Why is no one saying free armenia like they say for palestine? From agri dagi to artsakh? Almost like it was never about the cause but about how trendy and mainstream it was
Armenia has no allies thats why. It’s geopolitically doomed.
Because it was always about the mainstream and not for the cause, there are literally homosexuals and even transgender people who support Palestine and considering the average Arab's opinion about sexual minorities, it's just hilarious. LMAO
Sadly, we are not that based here in the West when it comes to this "special" group of people, there are definitely positive points we could learn from other cultures.
It's a more isolated part of the world compared to the Levant and the Armenians are insular by nature
It would have been cool if the opening jingle was also played at the end.
theres also the declaration of independance by the Kabylia Region in Nothern Algeria a few days ago , tough algeria seem to be cracking down hard on the independentist and its unclear if Morroco might support or not the independance declaration
It seems nobody watched to video just commented...
So true, Bocchi-chan
awesome ^^
The ceded villages are former destroyed Azerbaijani villages. You can barely find the remains of houses when looking at satellite photos. They only exist but in name...
Is this not a genocide like the one in Palestina? Why don't we see this in the news?
Because it's unimportant really, just some funny map changes.
@@user-jh5dq9vc1v if Egypt openned its borders, Israel would have taken Gaza for itself and it would have been just a "funny little change in the map" as you say
because what armenia anexed with an excuse of a minor land with armenian majority in 92 was much larger. they ended up anexing more than karabakh, a large portion of azerbaiijan with majority azerbaijan population, ending up with forced displacement of 800000 azerbaijanis out of the region. I dont have to mention that azerbaijanis are doing the same. This conflict doesnt have any ending... duh
Þanks for uploading
I'm really curious about the future of Puntland
They’re doing fine
why the hell would u be curious abt that. i dont even know where that is nor do i care.
guys stop everything you're doing, @solushyperborea doesn't care about the future of Puntland
@solushyperborea How to tell if somebody watched the video or not:
Oh boy I'm sure the comment section will be peaceful.
Nah
It is not
Yes
Have not seen a video of the cataclysmic world history changing change in the map between Norway and Sweden, or are we just that formal and uninteresting.
inb4 Armenia has to cede a corridor in the south to Azerbaijan
Why?
@@An069 Because it's the corridor which connects Azerbaijan to Turkey but the only headache is Armenia.
@@zhuangchuang31 why is that Armenia’s problem? Why Armenia HAS to cede?
@@An069I just told you why this corridor is so important for Turkey and Azerbaijan and they don't want Armenia to cede Syunik (the region where the corridor is) but to allow them to go through it and practice the trading. They are three neighboring countries and they cannot industralize without the collaboration of the same.
@@zhuangchuang31 Its not Armenian fault that Azerbaijan keeps attacking them, making any civilised resolutions impossible. Also this would connect Azers with Turks, but block Armenians from Iran.
Almost everyone in this comment section doesnt see the full picture here. Those villages were part of azerbaijan but armenia took them under their control. They are just giving it back in a friendly gesture, nothing serious happening here.
They are typical haters. Christian solidarity. They keep calm when armenians start war, killing thousands of azerbaijanis. Now they play angels.
Controversial to say this, but Azerbaijan should cede that southern land to Armenia to make the borders look better ...
Based
You should have renounce to post this the moment you typed "to make the borders look better".
Just the land that will never cede cause azerbaiyan want borders with turkey
Controversial to say this, but Armenia should be annexed, it would really make the borders look even better.
The thing that will make the borders really look better is connecting Nakhchivan to Azerbaijan, lets be honest.
As an armenian ne mutlu türküm diyene!
🗿💀
Gerçekten ermenimisin?
You are literally Caucasus final boss
@@y_a_1904_ adamın ismi hazretibesimtibuk ama ülkedeki ermeni azınlıktan olabilir
Wasn’t the whole Nagorno-Karabakh dispute started by Stalin giving territory mostly populated by Armenians to the Azerbaijan SSR as a “divide and rule” strategy?
Yes
Yep. He made sure that all the states in the USSR would be in chaos if they ever tried to leave.
It was cruel but smart. Also gave us the Tajikistan/Kyrgyzstan border gore for example
But i just feel bad for Armenia. They have had such a rough past and are continuously getting scuffed
Nope, that's just not true.
Short answer : It was given to Azerbaijan because 1- it was an Armenian ethnic exclave surrounded by Azeris from all sides and 2- Turkey demanded that in the peace treaty that ended the Turkish-Armenian War. This was done before Stalin took over btw.
Long answer :
On the first point, Nagorno-Karabakh was surrounded from all sides by non-Armenian majority areas. To their West was "Red Kurdistan", an area inhabited by Azeri-speaking Shia Kurds who demanded to be included in Azerbaijan due to their affinity with Azeris (language and religion), while to their North, East and South, they were surrounded by Azeri majority areas. To make the situation clearer to you, the Armenian population of Nagorno-Karabakh in 1990 was a little under 150 thousand people while the refugee population displaced/expelled during that same war was 500 thousand (mostly Azeris and Kurds from surrounding areas but including the Azeri minority in Nagorno-Karabakh too).
This means giving the ethnic exclave to Armenia in order to grant Armenians their right to self determination would have disregarded that same right for a population three times+ the Armenian population.
On the second point, Turkey was waging a war on Armenia in the wake of WW1, and the front was basically in a state of constant Armenian retreat and constant Turkish advance (as well as the displacement of Armenians in those areas further and further to the East). By November, Turkish forces reached what is today Armenia and were occupying Gyumri (then Alexandropol, Armenia's second largest city). It was at this time that Armenian communists with support from the Red Army launched a coup d'état and immediately sued for peace (as the only other option was Turkey destroying what little remained of Armenia). Turkey obviously had the upper hand in the conflict so it was able to enforce a lot of demands on Armenia and the USSR in the treaties of Treaty of Alexandropol and Kars. One of those demands was to strengthen the Azerbaijani SSR as Turkey felt affinity to them (both being Turks and all).
Fun fact : After the coup d'état in Armenia, the first Azerbaijani Communist leader, Nariman Narimanov, actually publicly stated that he will give all of Karabakh (including the Azeri majority areas) to Armenia (along with even Nakhchivan and Zangezur) as a show of "Communist brotherhood between nations". After all they were now part of the same country where things like ethnicity and religion were supposed to matter less, and Azerbaijan itself had quite a lot of Armenian majority exclaves so they didn't mind Armenia having significant Azeri ethnic exclaves too but Lenin rejected the idea because of Turkey's demands (the USSR was still fighting the Russian Civil War and didn't want to start a war on another front with Turkey, not to mention they were really hoping Turkey would join the Communist bloc at the time).
Thus, a committee was set up by Lenin to draw the borders and was asked to put into consideration the demographic as well as the geopolitical situations. The committee (made up by people from all ethnicities in the region) agreed on a compromise : Nagorno-Karabakh will become part of Azerbaijan (to not anger Turkey and to appease Azeris and Kurds in the surrounding areas) but it will have an autonomous status (most notably linguistic and cultural autonomy) with its borders being specifically designed to include as many Armenian majority settlements as possible. They also had to make Nakhchivan an exclave of Azerbaijan because Turkey insisted on a border with Azerbaijan (through the Aras Corridor which Turkey got through a land exchange with Iran) and in return, they gave Zangezur to Armenia.
In conclusion : Soviet enclaves were not a case of "divide and conquer by Stalin", they were a response by committees made up of locals to the demographic, geopolitical and economic reality at the time, and the people who drew the borders didn't even think the Soviet Union was ever going to collapse resulting in those borders becoming a source of war and conflict.
Irrelevant Note : I am pro-Armenian, as I feel an immense amount of sympathy towards them for their history and the genocide they had endure (+ Armenians and Arabs are pretty friendly towards each other so there is bias there coming from my Arab background), but it is necessary to look at the matter in its historical context as well as understand the very valid Azeri concerns and grievances in the situation if you want peace in the region and a durable solution.
Kinda, the place had an important armenian population before and they gave it to the azeris likely in hopes of that, but the region was originally mainly habitated by Kurds, and Azeris were also a big population, so tbf you could argue he did it because the Kurds were more related to the Azeris as they were both "persian-like" cultures
Those villages already belonged to Azerbaijan, but anti-Turkish racists only defend Armenians
Uh...
Congrats on half a million?
The Armenian people have suffered greatly, but they still stand strong despite their losses. 🇷🇴❤️🇦🇲
They gotta give up and make peace
@@nenenindonufuck internationally recognised borders. Every nation has the right to self determination and that includes Artsakh.
@@Trolligi Ok but how did that end up again for Armenia ?
Isn't arstakh depopulated heavily of armenians?
@@Skips112 Yeah it was ethnically cleansed when Azerbaijan took it.
Holy shit, this is the 23rd time? What the hell am I missing?
Soviets when drawing borders: "Sure this will not cause a serious international conflict if we randomly collapse or something."
i know this is a joke but fun fact: most probably it WAS their intention. by putting a ton of weird borders and autonomous republics in other soviet republics, Moscow planned to cause instability in those regions, so that Moscow would gain more influence
They really had fun in central asia...
@@vemmotheshitt9678 especially Fergana valley
Yes, for the same reason, the Soviets gave Ukraine about half of its current territories. The leaders of the Odessa and Donetsk-Krivoy Rog republics insisted that this territory be included in the Russian Republic, but Lenin was categorically against this, the situation with Crimea is about the same.
But it's very strange, guys, that you admit this, while considering the boundaries that economic and political fanatics drew in the 20th century to be sacred and inviolable.
actually the soviets did this on purpose so if they fell apart then the breakaway countries wouldnt be able to succeed as independent countries
Imagine being Armenia, a nation that's been around since the ancient times, reduced to such a state after suffering endless losses and genocides. Poor bastards.
now before i talk a bit just keep in mind this is to keep people's eyes on BOTH not just one
Armenia is basically covered toe to head by Muslim countries thanks to the ten quadrillion caliphates the Middle East had and the Ottomans so really a huge disadvantage in their favour
Azerbaijan, do i need to say more
nope, armenia was never that big. we were there even before them. also, ethnos didn't exist until more recent times
@letsplaywithmegacyborg3098 Armenians also had land in Anatolia though.
@@AQWER-vh7ih yes, u do. all that land was ours and armenia has been occupying it since a long time. they kicked us out of there and moved in to claim ancestry. do some research on 1823 era and russian empire involvement
@@zjzr08 for a short time. also, armenians now aren't armenians then. it was mixture of tribes
New map lets gooooooooooo
this is what being a former soviet republic does to an mf
Tf you on about? Ru provided them protection for years, then pashinyan decided to make a deal with the west and told Ru to move the F out and claim that nagorno karabakh is azerbaijan on live TV. Both Ru and Iran offered direct military support and he rejected both. Now the only thing they do is continue ceding land because the west is unwilling to provide direct support because azerbaijan is an ally of turkiye (na-to member). Pashinyan is a traitor yet Armenian still believed it's somehow Putin's fault for not helping when his support was blatantly rejected.
Dude, both Armenia and Azebaijan are former soviet republics.
@@user-xw5xo3bv1n I know
Azerbaijan is doing real well to me
@@Tran5513because of fossil fuel deposits, pretty much nothing else
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the borders look intentionally weird because the Soviet Union wanted to ensure conflicts in its eastern block territories to make it harder for them to unite against the system?
no it looks wierd because it is wierd
look at any map of ethnicities its hellish
@@OsirusHandle Ethnicities and country borders are not the same no? Other countries have crazy ethnic range too, but the border still look somewhat uniformed.
@@DanDaFreakinMan due to millenia of war and genocide usually. sometimes its not so bad though. bare in mind most of europes borders for example were made in ww1 and ww2.
You are correct
According to Al Jazeera the villages, Baghanis Ayrum, Asagi Eskipara, Heyrimli and Kizilhacili are all deserted and where "occupied during the First Karabakh War of 1988-1994" btw
1988? thats like if TX went to war with NM
@@sushiroll9401It kinda was. Between 1988 and 1991 a low scale conflict was developing in the region as Soviet Military and Police Forces were retreating from the region or doing nothing to prevent the always-there ethnic tensions, as the only thing that was preventing the Caucasus to set in fire was soviet army and secret police forces. When the Soviet Union finally dissolved, Armenia and Azerbaijan had green light to go in a full out war
yes, they were occupied
Les be honest, al Jazeera had always been biased
@@sushiroll9401 union control over the republics weakened more and more in the end of the 1980s
damn…
if this ends in long term peace and mutual respect then its worth it.
It clearly won't
If they decide to honor the peace and not get revenge fantasies then there will be long term peace
@@Efsaaneh Technically, there is no peace and I don't see how one is possible as long as Aliyev's authoritarian family rules Azerbaijan.
@@haykk5375 this village swap is the result of peace negotiations brother, until the end of the year there 100% will be a final treaty
@@Efsaaneh Let's see - the rhetorics from the Azerbaijani side and the Russian meddling don't support this. Hope I am wrong and there is peace finally.
nice 500k subscribers
Did you know that Artsakh spelled backward is Cast- wait no, that's a different history video...
Oh 😮
It's a shame the Romans cut Armenia down when they were forging an empire... Clearly has just been going downhill since then.
Armenias fault is their geography. Being stuck between two empire producing areas. Iranian plateau and the Mediterranean basin. Every single empire from these areas has subjugated Armenia. So when they become free they eventually get put down by the next empire up. It was just unlucky they happend to get screwed over by the migrating Turks who settled directly in their lands instead of just subjugating them like everybody else.
You've yet to report about the Israeli-Jordanian border change in 2020.
this series is about internationally recognised changes i believe, and only israel and us recognise that last i heard. though i guess each of us might have a different threshold, two countries recognition is not enough or there would have been so many changes.
I'm israeli and I never heard of a border change between my country and jordan this past decade
@@Marlin123 let me guess you support genocide and apartheism
@@Marlin123 i think theyre just talking about when trump recognised it, not when it actually happened, idk tho
@@lythd
What the heck are you talking about? Israel gave Jordan an exclave and another territory. OBVIOUSLY, "internationally recognized."
They just can't take a break
I fully expected to withdrawal and seed territory of their own next.
Armenia is unique country with unique language and culture, they must be protected, 🇦🇱🤍🇦🇲
Are u christian albanian?
@@y_a_1904_ no im atheist
azerbaijan should withdraw from occupied armenian villages then… armenians cant catch a break
Or else ?
@@baha3alshamari152”Or else?”
Armenia withdrew from villages they occupied, now Azeris do thr same. It’s called being fair, you condemned commoner
Azerbaijan didnt exist before 1918, get ahold of yourself
@@pokemuco
What if Azerbaijan decided to not leave
What can you do about it
what villages do we have that are theirs? karabakh was always ours
@@pokemuco azerbaijan existed waaaay before 1918 bro... 💀
Appropriated date, really cool
Presumably it will be a two way land swap. Azer occupies some lands in recognised armenia around Nagorno Karabakh (red on this map 0:35). So I guess they will give those back in exchange for the exclaves in the north that have only ever really existed on paper.
Armenia 🇦🇲 is best
These guys can't catch a break
Can we just like map paint all of Caucuses into one big country I think that'd make the map look better and improve on the dysnchs
Звучить як "давайте просто об'єднаємо балкани"
Is this real or mapping?
Real
Armenian isn't long for this world
Nuh uh
Honestly, I'm happy finally there's a border both agree on
So, Winter war could have been prevented same way
Armenia doesn't cede anything. There is delimitation and demarcation process going on on the border. Those 4 villages were parts of Azerbaijan SSR, that's why handed back to Azerbaijan. Even the first border posts were built between the countries just 2 days ago.
Start of the delimitation and demarcation process is good news and start of the stable relations between the countries as this process has started without any intermediary, which shows these 2 countries can actually solve their problems if no one meddles. It should be appreciated, rather than doing warmongering and trying to trigger someone or something
Just as long as the deal is not altered later at gunpoint in favor of Azerbaijan, because what Armenia will do, call Russia?
The Azerbaijani bots came out in droves for this one
That poor country. It's never gonna end, is it?
There is no war in that places all the lands are gived by Armenia by political way.
Azerbaijan keeps bullying Armenia and no one seems to care
Bullying? Puhahahahaıagsnuzhsjsushdj You made me laugh well, my friend :D
Are you aware of Armenia's occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh in 1991 and the Khojaly massacre? And also, did you know that the majority of present-day Armenia and Nagorno-Karabakh were Azerbaijani Turks until the Russian empire introduced Armenians there? There is a lot to say, but I don't feel obliged to say much to people who have closed their ears and eyes in accordance with a diaspora lie.
@@StalkerX426 let me guess, you're Azerbaijani or Turkish aren't you?
@@rexblade504 You've got my race involved in this. You're funny man. Let me guess what kind of things you're going to say to me... "bUt whAt AbOuT aRmEnIAn/grEeK/aSryIaN cEnOsAyd?" Sound familiar? As for why I wrote you a comment like this: I've seen quite a lot of such people. And they're all funny. Very funny. It's all just a stupid joke. Beings who fall for the lies of the diaspora and think they are the "cradle of civilization"... They are really pathetic... Really...
It's not really bullying if you consider that those villages were predominantly Azeri and illegally occupied by the Armenia in the First Nagorno-Karabakh war.
@@sunjarty8521 well they took the ethnically Armenian Nagorno-Karabakh region and expelled the Armenian population, and are now taking more territory from Armenia and Armenia can't stop them. I'd say that's bullying.
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Larper
No one's talking about this.
An interesting topic for a video, which may be a bit different from what this channel usually does but i also cannot thing of any channel that's a better fit than yours, would be what happens to a person when they suddenly find themselves within the borders of a different country. We all know what a common result displacement or death is, but what about those who stay and live? How does that change somebody's life, what is the process of beaurocracy, changing documents, how does it affect, linguisticall culturally etc, things like school and businesses? It's pretty wild to imagine, only things I can think of are stories of refugees and the movie The Terminal.
"What a common result is death"
MFs in 12000years of history who just move on: wtf?
Dude is using ISIS as a example or sth
@@justanotheremptychannel2472 ethnic cleansing following border changes isn't unhead of at all?
Armenians and Greeks cant catch a break from them, 1100 years of it
Greeks have attacked Turks while Turks defended for the last 200 years. Also Armenia occupied Azerbaycans territory for 30 years and now its the poor Armenians who can't catch a break? Why must europeans be so biased
oh plz not by a german. mind your business. where have you been the whole time? commiting crimes urself😂
@@ArdaSRealBecause of the numerous genocides committed by the ottomans with no apology or acknowledgement ever appearing, combined with relentless attacks at Nagorno-Karabakh which is majority Armenian and desires independence by Azerbaijan. Furthermore it’s kind of hard to sympathise with the people who only arrived in the 11th century and then reduced the Armenian nation to a tenth of its historic size and the Greek to a third while committing genocide and being at the helm of a large empire which additionally was the enemy of many a European nation for hundreds of years. That’s why we’re “biased”
@@legchairhistorian5496what about the genocides greek and armenians done
they shouldnt be nationalists and close minded then
Why does Azerbaijan want this land so much, can't they just give back Armenian villages or is this might makes right.
Azeri villages which Armenia has to give back.
The villages that were returned to Azerbaijan by Armenia were Azerbaijani territory. They were occupied by Armenia since the start of the First Karabakh War. The borders were drawn by the Stalin regime. There are 4 more villages that Armenia has to give back. The Azerbaijani government will probably not surrender control of the occupied village in the exclave until Armenia cedes control over the Zangezur Corridor and/or some sort of formal agreement is signed by the Armenian side.
Compromises will be made, notwithstanding what either of the sides want...
Those villages were occupied during the first war and still today intetnationally recognized as Azerbaijani lands.Why tf people trying to make Armenia look like innocent
@@swordoftengri2676 because T*rks=cringe🤢, Supreme Nation of Armenia=based🤓
I meant first, damn it
They took fingers and they will go for the arm…
it's joever
Nooooooooooooo
What throwing away your one ally does to a mf:
the poor armenians just can't catch a break. I wonder if EU accession would provide them some security
Yeah, sure buddy, mighty EU will protect 😂
Foken world of infantile people
World must needs to intervene in this.
Ok
UN recognizes those as Azerbaijani land, so they are intervening in the side of the Azerbaijani people and their government
They did and found Azerbaijan rightful. Case closed not to be reopened again.
This is literally peace negotiations, if you intervene this time irevan will fall
This comment is about comments of this video.
I don't know but all the people in comments( expect some people) describe armenia as a angel or the most peace loving country in the world.
In this days armenia is more weak than azerbaijan and yeah azerbaijan demand some lands from armenia. But in past (espically 1991-1993) armenia killed muslim people in khojali and even in the karabakh. And guess what happened.
Nothing. Literally nothing.
Un and europe didn't care about it.
In short. I want to explain something. Neither armenia nor azerbaijan is not an angel fallen on earth.
Because Turks didn't have ASALA who assasinated turkish diplomats in Europe and eventually had Europe acknowledge the so-called genocide threatening to intensify their terror attacks. Armenians are literally no peacemakers. All they want is an discrimination against the Turkish population based on their Turkish identity but what they miss is Armenia is nothing.
Well this is a bit like the Palestine- Israel conflict. Palestine (Armenia) is ceasing to exist one by one piece of land until it just disappears of the map. Hamas is using the palestine people to ruin their own country, but the palestinian people are right now getting repressed by the collonisers(israel) to cease to exist. So what I am saying is that when you're country is getting taken over bit by bit, you will get some nationalism and the people of the country that have been colonised will do geno#cide.
Khojaly was arranged by the government of Azerbaijan. The former president (the father of the current one) admitted this.
@@M4es1rosource: your own ass. More bodies are being found in Khojaly as we speak
@@zhuangchuang31ASALA was so critical of NATO and today they would be among the first Armenians to ask Europe for help, a pity that Melkonian is no longer here, it would have been great to make him see how his "struggle" was of no use.
So Armenia decided to turn west for real? And days later they agree to give land to their oppressor, who may or may not have recruited Syrian terrorists in their fight against Armenia? I really hope (but not holding my breath) that Armenia doesn't end up like a second Georgia or Palestine.
What did i do?
Seriously, just 4 villages? If people are going to war and exchanging land over just 4 cillages there wont be an end in sight.
Armenians and Azerbaijanis have been living for hundreds of hears both in predent day Armenia and Azerbaijan kncluding Karabakh and Nakhchivan, all theyre doing now is a population exchange and ethnic cleansing with extra steps.
Azerbaijan's leader has even called Armenia "West Azerbaijan" so who knows if it could even get worse
Armenia has shrinked by 80% in the last century
Four village, then karabagh then all of southern armenia and then what's left of the country
Do you really think they're gonna stop when the usage of the word armenia has been replaced by "western azerbaijan" and that their President calls armenians a "slave race not even worth licking our boots"
@@vachagan2007they didn’t “shrink”, they weren’t even a country in the last century to begin with
@@mossfen583they were a nation, and Armenians used to live in a lot more places than they do now.
@@mossfen583they were a nation, and Armenians used to live in a lot more places than they do now.
Differences is back then Armenia and Azerbaijan were more geographyc signifiers than countries. And big parts of that history they were under somebody else or too divided.
West Azerbaijan will be free🇦🇿
it's a good thing that finally some wars are cooling down, caucaus region has been in war even before the collapse of USSR and if by some peace movements by the PM's of both countries an actual peace atmoshpere can be established, caucaus may finally see some good days once again
Just hope they dont have another war over some tiny villages again
Tiny war for tiny villages. It's tiny deal, reason for tiny concerns.
There's so much that I want to say... but I can't.
The only thing that I can is:
Εκεί, δικά σου είν ακόμα
ουρανός και χώμα
θάλασσα, στεριά.
they are our land. not armenian
Azeri land.
@@genovayork2468 No.
I dont think anyone can speak minecraft enchanting table language write it in english bud
@@kingduck6728its greek
Just been to Armenia, and I do feel for their people. They have just a tiny country and have well not been treated well in their history. Still hope they can solve this with dyp not war.
They will not stop until we are all dead
Craig Kelly is gonna be happy for some reason
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@@tylerbozinovski427 ua-cam.com/video/8w3THnsKJEA/v-deo.htmlsi=SmlpVNJ0-Uaw02xp
Another W for Azerbaijan 🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿
We should be supporting armenia instead of israel
So they invade even more lands because "muh 3000 bc roman fairy tale"?
Armenia literally starts a war and when Azerbaijan strikes back and Turkey impose sanctions, they take the issue to whole new moral base.
They are three neighboring countries. it's just stupid to maintain this conflict.
Armenia wants to start something that would make Gaza look like Columbia University
I wonder what's going to happen with Nakhchivan. I think it's inevitable that this exclave ceases to exists. So it's either a matter of Armenia annexing it (unlikely) or Azerbaijan seizing a land connection.
I mean, though it's separed from the rest of Azerbaijan, it's been that way for decades so it may just remain the way it is. But if things had to change, there were proposals for an Azerbaijani annexation of the Zangezur Corridor, or a Turkish/Azerbaijani Republic of Goycha-Zangezur, Nakhchivan was also considered by many (not all) Turks as a part of Misak-ı Milli (the national oath of Turks, lands Turkey would originally resist to keep)
@@scientificnameofpigs Nakchivan added to national oath just because the risk of Soviet Armenia's annexation.
Türkiye still guarantee Nakchivan Autonomous Republic if anybody attacks the region. There is just a 1 chance, it is Azerbaijani fully integration to region.
Sad that the US is supporting Azerbaijan just because of oil
No they aren't. How could Azerbaijani oil in any form benefit US? If you'd said that they support them to threaten Azerbaijani insurgents in Iran it might have made some sense. Other wise they aren't supporting Azerbaijan they are supporting international laws that qualify Karabakh as Azerbaijani territory.
@@sunjarty8521 otherwise known as ethnic cleaning of minorities
@sunjarty8521
When has America ever cared about international laws
@@brandon9172 I would guess right after invasion of Iraq backfired and created ISIS.
@@sunjarty8521simple: Azerbaijan is an alternative source of oil to Russia and Iran for Europe, which in turn makes Europe less dependent and sympathetic towards Russia, which in turn keeps them dependent and subservient to the US.
Day 3 of me asking for a video on Sarawak.
Why Azerbaijan gets to have an exclave (that Nakshvicnivn whatever place) but Armenia can't?
Beacuse there is something called international law dude.Both Karabakh and those villages were Azerbaijani territories recognized by the UN.
Because the Bolsheviks were biased against Armenia when drawing boundaries and needed to pander to the Turks as part of their anti west revolution ideals the Turks weren't seduced and the Armenians short changed
During Soviet times Nakhichevan was part of Armenian SSR. And then it was passed to Azerbaijani SSR 🤡 how fair is that? And now they write this nonsense “iNtErNatIoNaLly rEcoGniZed bOrDers”. Yeah, sure. You got it all from soviet leaders, cause you had oil