Mercedes-AMG GT R Pro: Track Review | Carfection
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
- Henry Catchpole takes the Mercedes-AMG GT R Pro out on track to see if it's worth the extra cost. Does it handle that much better out on track?
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TheVideoChannel Check out Remove Before Race and tell me what underrated is again.
So you’re saying that the quality of RBR is better then Carfection? Just the fact that Carfection has Henry puts them waaaay ahead of RBR
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@@Nik-x3x just no. carfagtion make a cut every damn 3 seconds because that's the attention span of 5 year olds and 5 year olds are a huge part of their target audience. I rather watch the raw onboard footage of henry driving this thing around hockenheim. this completely ruined the impression of the track aswell as the impression of the car for me. they have been making stupid videos which focus around a person and the things they say while putting no focus on the car whatsoever for a while and even now that they are including onboard shots I can't enjoy this because I barely see any of the onboard footage all I see are damn cuts every 3-5 seconds.
I just see a carfection video and pray it’s catchpole hosting it
It's funny how I love Catchpole, yet other people of similar character - on other channels - seem boring in comparison. Such is life, eh?
Alex is also really good.
The AMG GT has become merc's 911, lots of iteration..
It will be difficult to replace this car, and that engine
Gregorius Hermawan and Mercedes owners don’t seem to mind that they keep recycling their car like the owners with the hurracn and Aventodor.
But 911 has been on the market for 55 years... GT has been a huge success so of course they'll keep making it as long as they can.
@@BrawnyPony 911 ? Ferrari mid engine V8 supercars ? What the fuck are you talking about ?
@@Elias_g1 the primary demographic for the AMG GT is in fact the Porsche 911 This is they buyer they are going after. Outside of one of Porsche's GT cars (GT3 RS, GT2 RS etc...) I would take an AMG GT-R or R-Pro over just about any Porsche, even the Turbo S. But yeah, I'd rather have a 991 GT3 RS, but the AMG GT-R would be a perfectly adequate 2nd choice. :)
The Sls was cooler I think
Ah yes, Catchpole Sunday, my favorite day.
The fact that AMG put out their second car and that's already somewhat rivals the GT3 and GT3 RS which have been perfected over the last 30 years really astounds me. Good for them!
Auto blipper AMG and BMW ///M are similar in age, with AMG I think technically edging BMW’s arm by a few years. Porsche was a stand-alone company well before, but all three really got into their stride in the 90’s due to absorption or collaboration with their respective parent companies.
@@ALMX5DP absolutely correct but this is the second car that AMG has built on their own (allegedly) and which is not based on a regular Mercedes
RealCapo88 idk, amg owns f1
@Auto blipper are you sure about that i think you need to re check that in Australia amg has destroyed m sport in sales and would be the same all over the world bmw cant sell a car at the moment compared to Mercedes
The AMG GT R Pro just shows the brutality of a Mercedes
This is something much more extreme especially that engine and the styling
The engine is the exact same.
@@Gravy_Master so? Same with McLarens
@Auto blipper no it isn't. Not only aero dynamics, they improved engine dynamic and mechanical down force too. The engine position is changed due to the new adjustable engine mount. And almost all of the swing arm and link arm are on the new position. new type carbon disk brake. New adjustable suspension with lower travel. All carbon fibre strut tower bar, under brace, x brace and lower engine cover. The aero that you talked about actually have the biggest improvement of them all. All new carbon fibre front lip with much much longer lip spoiler, front fender skirt, side skirt, rear fender skirt, lower rear diffuser, bigger rear wing and even the roof. All fk new carbon fibre. even the interior is all new and more advanced than the old GT R
Lol brutal you must never heard of a AMG SL65 BLACK SERIES, Twin turbo v12 670 hp 800ft lbs this a little kitten
I'd take a Corvette ZR1 over this.
The only thing I hate about this is how many times I hear "...for a front-engine car". 100% of the engine is between the axles, which makes it a true mid-engine car, even more so than a lot of "traditional" mid-engine cars. Part of the engine is literally under the windshield, and the entire transmission sits between the occupants' legs. It's 100% not front-engined. Still an amazing video, and I'm glad to finally be learning more about the new features!
Mate the tranny is at the back under the boot floor. But nevertheless the engine is indeed pushed far back that's why all AMG GT' s have such wide center console, part of engine is actually in there.
Heller Xu you’re absolutely right, I misspoke about the transmission. It’s still a true mid-engine layout though.
Yep
That's my dream car!!!!! I absolutely love it!!!
It looked like a race car from those front end shots 😍
It's a road legal AMG GT4 essentially.
Next up: AMG GT R Pro Track edition
It'll cost you another £40,000, and you'll get no more power, 40kg less (which is like the standard of "lightened cars"), and a slightly wider carbon wing (most likely 5-7mm). Carbon wheels would be a £15,000 option, and drop a total of 20kg.
@@thegirthquake8574 it hasn't even come out yet and you are already speculating like no tomorrow
GetUpFalcon and a black series
Lol of course! Then a limited run DTM version (German touring car version)
@@eventusvantos2770 he's being sarcastic and realistic.
The front is one of the best looking ones of any car in production right now
Auto blipper I really like Porsche, but yeah this looks better
I'll wait for the Mercedes-AMG GT R Pro Spec-V GTR RS17
Black series of course
Did not expect to see this as I was scrolling through UA-cam at midnight haha. Perfect timing.
It confuses me when manufacturers build these gt3 type cars, but they are still 1000lbs heavier than gt3 spec. Remove the cow from your design team! I get regulations are a real thing. But a "focused" track car shouldn't have S-class infotainment and electrics. Still an incredible car.
Completely agree. If you want to make a sports car, weight is the number 1 enemy.
And with 150/200hp to balance the extra weight ahah
there is something with a front engined cars, with their long nose and squatting rear end they are just beautiful...
It still seems to have the very open radiator ducts at the front end, so stones and debris could cause potential failure at high speeds. I imagine Shmee will have something to say about this when his arrives. However, for pure driver thrills and experience, there's no beating the RS.
Pretty sure it opens and closes or has a mesh.
Man the sound is just absolutely fantastic.
2:03 did they have the apprentice doing the welds?
Catchpole a true wonder with words!
Im a MB fan, but; a Porsche GT3 is another level. For that amoun of money I prefer the Porsche.
The GT R contends with the GT3RS. So, your statement is absolutely true. The GT3 is on another lever. It just happens to be a lower level.
GT3 is not far better than a GTR, cut the bullshit
Why is that thumbnail so attractive. I think it has to do with the fact that the AMG GTR Pro's front end looks so aggressive
Saw Catchpole .. and an AMG GTR... and this is awesome!
Engineering is evolving so fast, 100 years ago we barely had cars and now our cars go 200 mph us
Technology in general has made a huge leap in a 100 years
Believe it or not, it's been almost 100 years since a car first drove 200 mph! _Mystery_ was hardly a production car, but still, pretty impressive for 1926.
Gripping entertainment, fabulous music and devilish smiles.
This just proves how incredible a GT3RS really is, he couldn’t stop comparing it to the King !!! PORSCHE-GT3RS!!!!!
true
He is comparing it because despite costing less it competes with the gt3 RS. If anything it proves how incredible the amg gt r pro is.
One of the most underrated channels ☹️
While GT3rs might be a faster, better sounding, more balanced, and easier to drive faster; this AMG GT line is a heck of machine when you get used to its character. They offer very different driving experience and both are unique. I love my 911(s) and I too love my new addition - AMG GT R.
GT3RS more balanced and easier to drive? :O It's a rear engine car, it will never be as balanced and easy to drive as front mid engine car. Also V8 sounds definitely better than flat 6
@@Verybadbiker If we take this guy at his word and believe that he has both cars then we have to accept that the GT3 RS is better sounding and better balanced. I haven't driven either and I doubt you have either, so why are you trying to argue with someone who has? Also, the Mercedes is turbo charged and the GT3 RS is naturally aspirated, which could be why the Porsche sounds better.
@@David-ud9ju I own neither but I have heard both, and I think the AMG sounds better IMO
@@David-ud9ju Kinda hard to argue when it comes to handling & stuff (since apparently he owns & drives them) but when it comes to sound it can be very subjective, depending on your own taste. Some might prefer the rumbling V8s, some other would prefer high revving flat 6s. I like them both tho, gotta cherish them all before the silence of electric powerplants taking over....
Its not that I hate it but as a track car its a heavy machine and will always feel like your managing the heft at the track,but then I suppose the demo for this car is the well heeled that want to play race driver.
Henry’s reviews are something else, the best on here 👌🏻
Surprised amg didn't add a bit of hp to this car like Porsche does with the gt3rs over the gt3
Allen Saunders I’m curious too as the engine is very capable of producing more (as we see in the E63S). Wonder if there is some limitation inherent to this vehicle that they’ve decided to not turn up the wick more.
They should send this thing round the ring later this year when its warmer. I mean 12 degrees ambient is way to cold to get those Michelin's up to temp, plus with the added trouble that the cooler air would mean the engine would probably produce more power it's even harder to put it down. I mean the GTR was faster or just as fast as the 2016 GT3 RS I'm sure this could get even closer to the 2019.
The front arch louvres may remind you of the GT3 RS, but those carbon fins on the rear bumper are the spitting image of those on a 918 Weissach Pack...
Nice car, nice video!
6:20 Unlike French or English, German doesn't have silent vowels at the end of words. So for "Nordschleife", just like for "Porsche", the E at the end is pronounced. :)
Best of the MERCEDES till date for me! ❤️
4:27 is that Vettel's favourite corner?
Hilarious
"Stay wide around this corner" is the last thing Vettel would want to hear.
Just sooooo nice love the Pro
Another stunning video, so well explained Henry :-)
I don't get why manufacturers still used drilled brakes for even road legal cars that are meant for the track, you can already see them cracking at 0:46. Use the slotted ones like every purpose-built race cars have so they don't explode
I'm gonna pass on this one and wait for the 2021 Mercedes-AMG GT RS Pro Track Black Series - Performance Edition, I think.
Yep, me too xD
Black series cars are too brutal, that when mercedes was dominating now they just a poser brand
It Sounds louder, And Def revs Higher.👌
Beautiful car
Autocar have done a review on the same car.
Obviously gotta watch Carfection review instead!
That looks so fun, great car and track 👍
Makes you wonder what a black edition version would be like
More imperceptible aero stuff and way expensive.
@@gustavoflorio5383 aero is very much perceptable actually. This gtr pro is 7 seconds faster than the non pro version around the nurburgring just to give one of many examples. So black series would be an even bigger perceptable difference
@@eventusvantos2770 not perceptible in road fucking-around use. You have to have something really radical to worth the experience (money).
And lets be honest: 7 seconds difference in a high 6 minute lap ain't shit for the money you paying.
The Black Series will have more power as well as more aero. Easily 600hp+
@@gustavoflorio5383 completely agree!!! The car is great no doubt but no one is racing it at any track at10/10 to worry about the diff of this to even a gts. The typical owner will drive it to cars n coffee and on weekend date nights with occasional in traffic to the office drives. All this engineering almost doesnt matter at all anymore
I’m sure there is more power reserve in the engine. And more to come from the chassis.
I guess calling the last one the AMG GTR Rank&File would’ve diminished sales a bit.
Best UA-cam car reviewer, ever.
Very nice! Weird upload schedule though.
Finally get to see this car in action
Sweet baby jesus, those carbon buckets 🤤
Brilliant, but not long enough, I could have watched it for an hour! Fabulous car
40,000 extra for abit of carbon and new springs .. for an extra 10k I'd get a alpine a110
You're networth is probably 0.1K so. You're not getting shit.
Yeah
Is this really worth the upgrade? I think the black series will be a more worthy uograde
Are the mercs with the big grill are they are supposed to look like the Hudson?
Like the green accents
If you want a fast track machine get a pista 600lt or gt3 rs! If you want a wonderfully handling, reliable fun fast street car with a sensational torquey brutish v8 were you service it once a year at reasonable prices get the merc! Their is a reason aston martin use a merc v8 in their vantage! Its tuff fun reliable and fast! Its a no brainer really!!
I love the shape of the AMG GT; that is a car I would pay £70K for, for a nearly new one. I would never buy brand new, let someone else take the massive first 2 years of depreciation.
The AMG GT looks far better than a Porsche 911 and you hardly ever see an AMG GT. 911's are dime a dozen round here.
I would never pay the extra £20 to £40K for the R, or this Pro version. Pretty funny that the Pro version here is another 40 grand more than the R; with virtually identical specs!!!! LOL.
Yep Gavin a nice GTS 2016 at around 72k is a great buy.
Next up: AMG GT R Pro - Plus - Track Edition 1 . For only 70k € you will get few new LED lights, 3mm of extra carbon on spoiler and a little logo on the back. But don’t think that you got the best version of AMG GT... coz’ there is a facelift coming every 3 months so.....
Pro version = exterior trim? Pro used to mean less trim, more power or torque.
Merc are building up a pedigree with the GTR... look out 911! Lovely production guys! 👍🏼
This is getting out of hands! Now there ar-... how many versions of AMG GT available?
Great quality video but the car is a cynical profiteering move. It’s no GT3 RS and no challenge to the Pista or even 600LT.
Well there you have it folks Stubones has spoken
Dont agree
good review as always Mr.Catchpole. (as always) ..... biggest question I have for you is "what wristwatch are you wearing?" Its super nice!
Hara Puzo Thank you! It’s a Bremont U-2/51-Jet, on a NATO.
@@HenryCatchpole . did we just become best friends ?!? :)
CEO: " we need more money from this thing"
Marketing Dept: " just put Pro on it"
Yea, just ignore the fact that for 40k you get 10k worth of carbon fiber bits, 10k worth of active aero, 6k worth of brakes and tires, 5k worth of seats, rollcage and integrated fire extinguishing system, 10k worth of highly sophisticated suspension with adjustable dampers and handmade carbon fiber anti-roll bar, etc. Good decision, let's put a pro badge on a car that will make us lose more money than we already do in order to make more money on it.
AMG doesn't earn a cent on this car, or Mercedes in general. These cars cost more to develop and build than they sell for. They're financed by the rest of the Mercedes lineup, mass produced cars and by various sponsors and investors.
This car should've been released with a n/a V12! Rework the Zonda engine.
To be honest, not really a smart car in my opinion. For over 5 years of development! For a price over 211k EUR, I prefer to buy a 911.2 GT3 RS and driving around the circuits for timeattacks. Faster, maybe less problems (no turbos) and cheaper in maintenance. Thank you for your review, really nice channel!!
One thing I don't understand, he said front engine cars need more downforce on the front axle but how? The engine is there pushing down already. Can anyone explain this?
It's because when you take a turn at high speed, the weight of the engine is no longer pushing down, but pushing onward because of inertia. So the more weight you have, the harder it is to change direction.
Imagine going 200 kph and you want to turn right. All of that weight will want to maintain its current direction rather than turn. With less weight, there is less inertia. So better turn in.
Hope that answers it.
Excellent
You tryna' invoke the spirit of Jim Clark with all that racket?
Cool merc, btw.
Would be perfect if the price can be adjusted like the arb and loan interest be like the coil-overs😁😁😁...lower is better!!
You are a Pro , really awesome video.
Mate, the backsound for this video is the backsound of Motorsport Manager game 😂
Not a black series?
Anyone who’s ever played RR3 or an F1 game knows their way around hockenheim!! Come on man lol
So glad we got henry on this one. My favourite journalist on this channel. Really good stuff.
great video Henry, the car is a great package also, 7% stiffer is allot, $40k more, get what you pay fore still over 1600kg, thats the part that stings and this car has lots of carbon fibre bits already,I just thought it would have lost 100kgs in weight with the increase in price
$40K was not only just for light weights saving and obviously not for the power 😂 the driving dynamics (mechanical downforce and new traction control) is improved too. Or you can just wait for GT black Series then.
well mom, are you gonna pay for the price diff for me, am tapped out at the 40 k and its still too heavy , an ok car and certainly no no 911 GT3 RS,lol@@27_syndicateshquad78
🤔 Does anyone think they will do an AMG GTR Black Series?😍🤤
Driven Garage it's confirmed they are. Will be "competitive" with the GT2RS and 720S.
@@MotownModels any links or postings ? I know last fall everyone was thinking this amg gtr pro being tested was a black series but I havent found anything recent :(
the AMG GT Black Series will be at GT3 RS performance range not GT2 RS or 720S. the engine might be just over 630hp. With the same chasis platform as this one, i doubt it will be as fast as GT2 RS. Go check Misha Charoudin channel to see GT Black Series test run on Nordschleife
It's evolving.
New watch? Looks like a compressor. Where is the Omega Speedmaster? :)
Seems to me a Bremont U-2/51-Jet.
@@howard74517 Well, good choice. Definetely something you can knock around a fast speed car more than a speedmaster.
A very handsome car to the date.
0:50 You get floating calipers on a car like this??
Can u guys tell me what the difference between sway bar and anti-rolled bar???
Different names for the same thing.
Can mercedes build something mid enginey?
So what's the difference??
Nothing (on the car)
40k on the price!!
I'm a bit peeved that they didnt upgrade the engine even a little. You'd think it would have more capacity to put down that extra power, with all the aero upgrades.
Then again, I can't afford this and I likely never will, so what's the bother 😆
We should see how good this car can stand up to 600 LT that sharp turn should of came down at 280 KPH
This version should've been manual
The Best
No way you’d get this over a Gt3Rs although it’s an amazing car
Is this hockenhiem?
I love AMG, my favourite brand and I own one... BUT - they are destroying value with all these models. Every GTR has had their values drop significantly with this new Pro model.
Finally someone who could drive this car
Nice machine ♥️
this guy is wolverine
Should have been a 600bhp+ Black Series
Waiting for the black series....
AMG Pro with the same idea and colour scheme as an AMR Pro? Hmmm...
Hmm... considering the history, I'd say this is Merc's Viper ACR... but for an extra $40k, no ECU tune to the E63S spec??
Viper ACR is a road going race car. It's fully rugged, EXTREMELY hard and uncomfortable, unrefined, etc. It's a very unusable car, not to mention road illegal in it's fastest configuration. This AMG is still a comfortable and refined car. So in no way like a Viper ACR. This is a sophisticated car, Viper ACR is the complete opposite... it gets it's speed from just VERY wide and VERY sticky tires and lots of downforce. It's not a nice car to drive at all, it was built for lap time boasting and showing off. This AMG wasn't, this is still a proper drivers cars.
@@derbigpr500... closely check out everything that was amended to this GT-R & then look at all of the same things that Dodge did to amend the Viper... it's identical. Yeah, you can say Merc has done similar things to the SLS Black, but even that was made after the Daimler Chrysler divorce... so suffice to say, that Mopar has influence Merc in many ways. Yes, the Snake is crude in race trim... but what "real" raced out road car isn't? However again, check out the Viper in GTS trim & the parallel similarities show up in the AMG GT. Nevertheless, for that much extra coin, I should have just as much power output as the E63S that cost close to 1/2 the price at this point! Furthermore... even with the higher spec engine, that still wouldn't be able to match a Viper in any of it's trims, let alone a GT2-rs that it's supposed to be competing against!
Cool car, but why did they go with such standard-issue looking wheels? If they really wanted to complete the GT race car look, something like a BBS LM-R or F1 would have looked perfect. Easily fixed by a new owner, though.