The native logging issue seems more about a lack of willingness by companies to plant plantations. Employees put out of work really need to be blaming their employer for not properly investing in the company's future
This sums up the native logging perfectly. We ban logging in Australia and then increase imports from other countries, namely Singapore, Malaysia and the USA. It is far more sustainable to use Victorian timber.
The optimal conclusion for Carbon is not to lock up a forest. A native forest's carbon storage reaches a plateau after roughly 50 years. The Otway agroforestry network has a lot to teach us about maximizing the use of resources and the environment.
It really depends on where you are in Australia though. Forestry Is a crucial industry and native Araucaria are great specimens for a sustainable industry, cunninghamii is a great example, downside is 60 years plant to harvest, but it's far better than invasive forestry species ie Pinus. Grevillea robusta is another great native forestry species - extremely fast growing with very fast plant to harvest turnarounds, and some of the nicest wood you'll ever use.
Simply, Timber is a renewable resource. When timber is processed and trapped in a house build, it is still trapped or sequester carbon. Preventing clear felling and ensuring replanting are essential strategies.. Lets see how some of the others stack up, Steel non renewable, plastic non renewable. Timber is one of the few viable building materials we have that is entirely renewable Australia allowed 600 000 people to emigrate in 2023. We have insufficient housing, water treatment, sewerage treatment, stormwater management. I guess none of this matters as there are no houses for these people to live in.. We have foolish, unthinking people running the country..
Steel is the cleanest recyclable as opposed to Plastic, Glass and Aluminium .. Its not Renewable, but we cant make disposable packaging from Timber.. Steel will always have a place with humans as the Greenest recyclable material.
Our forests will die because they need low temperature burns to naturally regenerate and renew. By not allowing thinning the bush and forest burns too hot when it catches alight...this really hot burn destroys the adult trees and burns deep into the ground . The animals also cannot escape hot fires like these. These forests need constant management with slow controlled burns and replanting where necessary. Aboriginals reduced undergrowth with controlled burns and prevented wildfires from developing. This has historically also been done by first nations in usa and canada
As an Indigenous person, I'd hope they properly invest in us first rather than exploiting us for our knowledge just to take it for themselves and continue to kill us off. So fingers crossed I guess... @@nyew1231
Locking up a forest is not the best outcome for Carbon. After about 50 years a native forests carbon store begins to plateau. We could learn a lot from the Otway agroforestry network about how to maximize environmental and resource outcomes.
Ok so if Cotton growers are going to use a lot of water, why don't we make them farm uphill from fresh water reserves so that the water runs back into the reserve conserving a lot of that water...
Australia has developed itself backwards we have developed our Coast with population and clear our forests and trees to do so man should be developing on the fridge toward the centre of Australia that way our Forrest and tree and country shade can remain somewhat, man just takes takes and takes we need to plant twice as much as we fell and we jave never replace our timber from when we first settled here.. if we developed the centre more we wouldn't have problems with getting stock and produce to ports, we can pipe water to the the other side of the range.. anyone saying keep logging get on google maps satellite we have very few small patch of trees in the whole country
The native logging issue seems more about a lack of willingness by companies to plant plantations. Employees put out of work really need to be blaming their employer for not properly investing in the company's future
And the Federal and States governments for not incentivising native hardwood plantations - it's not like this issue is new.
Agreed. The writing has been on the wall for decades so it's not like there wasn't ample time.
The native logging industry basically makes a loss and cause massive damage its not worth it
This sums up the native logging perfectly. We ban logging in Australia and then increase imports from other countries, namely Singapore, Malaysia and the USA. It is far more sustainable to use Victorian timber.
The optimal conclusion for Carbon is not to lock up a forest. A native forest's carbon storage reaches a plateau after roughly 50 years. The Otway agroforestry network has a lot to teach us about maximizing the use of resources and the environment.
Omg you're finally putting Landline episodes on UA-cam. Please make it weekly, not a fan of iView
We achieve this goal logging into small groups
Yes lovie but it took 30 years to get that patch back
You guys really make me sick about stopping the logging in East Gippsland,
what about when they clearer land to build more suburbs
Lets destroy ancient ecosystems so we can fix a problem maybe. I'm not even a hippy and can see that the greens are right on this one.
The only people who don't 'believe' the sience are the ones linninging their pockets.
Yep - it's insane to log ancient forests.
It really depends on where you are in Australia though. Forestry Is a crucial industry and native Araucaria are great specimens for a sustainable industry, cunninghamii is a great example, downside is 60 years plant to harvest, but it's far better than invasive forestry species ie Pinus.
Grevillea robusta is another great native forestry species - extremely fast growing with very fast plant to harvest turnarounds, and some of the nicest wood you'll ever use.
Definitely stop native log harvesting elsewhere, but Queensland is an excellent candidate to be Australia's primary forestry producer.
Simply, Timber is a renewable resource.
When timber is processed and trapped in a house build, it is still trapped or sequester carbon.
Preventing clear felling and ensuring replanting are essential strategies..
Lets see how some of the others stack up, Steel non renewable, plastic non renewable.
Timber is one of the few viable building materials we have that is entirely renewable
Australia allowed 600 000 people to emigrate in 2023.
We have insufficient housing, water treatment, sewerage treatment, stormwater management. I guess none of this matters as there are no houses for these people to live in..
We have foolish, unthinking people running the country..
Steel is the cleanest recyclable as opposed to Plastic, Glass and Aluminium ..
Its not Renewable, but we cant make disposable packaging from Timber..
Steel will always have a place with humans as the Greenest recyclable material.
to be honest whats the difference between renewable and fully recyclable? arguably a tree is recycled into carbon (AKA renewable?)
Our forests will die because they need low temperature burns to naturally regenerate and renew. By not allowing thinning the bush and forest burns too hot when it catches alight...this really hot burn destroys the adult trees and burns deep into the ground . The animals also cannot escape hot fires like these. These forests need constant management with slow controlled burns and replanting where necessary. Aboriginals reduced undergrowth with controlled burns and prevented wildfires from developing. This has historically also been done by first nations in usa and canada
Who is saying there won't be burns? Indigenous techniques didn't involve clear-felling forests, despite what industry likes to think
I do agree but that there needs to be far more investment in forest management, particularly indigenous ways
Logging isn't 'thinning the bush' - don't hide government kick-backs behind greenwashing.
9:44 - that's clear felling, not thinning
As an Indigenous person, I'd hope they properly invest in us first rather than exploiting us for our knowledge just to take it for themselves and continue to kill us off. So fingers crossed I guess... @@nyew1231
Locking up a forest is not the best outcome for Carbon. After about 50 years a native forests carbon store begins to plateau. We could learn a lot from the Otway agroforestry network about how to maximize environmental and resource outcomes.
Ok so if Cotton growers are going to use a lot of water, why don't we make them farm uphill from fresh water reserves so that the water runs back into the reserve conserving a lot of that water...
Firest fires are so much better than logging.!
Australia has developed itself backwards we have developed our Coast with population and clear our forests and trees to do so man should be developing on the fridge toward the centre of Australia that way our Forrest and tree and country shade can remain somewhat, man just takes takes and takes we need to plant twice as much as we fell and we jave never replace our timber from when we first settled here.. if we developed the centre more we wouldn't have problems with getting stock and produce to ports, we can pipe water to the the other side of the range.. anyone saying keep logging get on google maps satellite we have very few small patch of trees in the whole country
Imports of timber shouldn't be aloud either because illegal logged
Thanks for the laugh
We need timber to grow to help shade the earth we cant make decisions around money do other jobs create a job make an income outside of timber.
lot bull shit what about all jobs lost and it's going make things dearer more Australia icons close down