The Origins of the Kazakhs: 1420-1520

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  • @TheJackmeisterMongolHistory
    @TheJackmeisterMongolHistory  6 років тому +43

    A few things: Please excuse my mispronunciations: I try to look up proper ways of saying names and places, but I fear that I may be rather lacking in that area. As well, in this sort of topic there will be considerable variance in names, transliterations of names, place names, dates and even states (for example, some sources listed Abu'l Khayr interacting with the Khanate of Sibir, although other sources indicate it did not exist until 1490). I try to relay the most consistent version based off the sources I had access to, but if you know a different account I would be very interested to hear it!
    This channel intends to look at the origins and course of the Mongol Empire, as well as the after effects and legacies of the empire on world history. One important legacy was the new peoples who emerged after the Empire, the Kazakhs being one such group specifically requested. I will make these shorter videos covering these topics alongside the 'main' videos which go chronologically through the Mongol conquests. The next video in that series will look at Mukhali's campaigns in the Jin Empire, which are very interesting.
    This also took a while to make as I had to start a new job to bring some money in. While I will continue to make videos in this style, I think I will also start doing some again which will be me talking in front of the camera again, about things which I don't think need a dozen maps or drawings of historical figures to discuss (I'm thinking some videos on the Secret History of the Mongols in this manner?)

    • @TheJackmeisterMongolHistory
      @TheJackmeisterMongolHistory  6 років тому +2

      Bagadur Tarkhan sometimes UA-cam marks the comments as spam, especially if there is a link, and I have to approve them. I will check as soon as I can if this was a case.

    • @spikelol9928
      @spikelol9928 6 років тому +2

      @@TheJackmeisterMongolHistory I have to correct you, sorry). Abul Khair khan is descendant of Shiban 5th son of Zhochi khan, while Uzbek khan is descendant of Batu khan 2th son of Zhochi. Why Abul Khair and his people hold the name of "uzbeks"? Nogay named him Uzbek or from kazakh "Ozi Bek" in English "Lord of himself" and his people were called uzbeks too and uzbeks had nothing with current uzbeks in uzbekistan. there is no any relates to Uzbek khan from GH, its just coincidences of names.

    • @TheJackmeisterMongolHistory
      @TheJackmeisterMongolHistory  6 років тому +1

      @@spikelol9928 Hello! If I made a mistake in the video, you don't need to apologize for correcting me, as I encourage people to catch me on such things.
      But I am not sure we are disagreeing here: in my notes for this video I have Abu'l Khayr as a Shibanid, and while I don't think I specifically mentioned Ozbeg Khan's ancestry in this video, I think everyone would agree he is descendant from Batu (but if I made it seem like he was not, then I do apologize as that would be my mistake).
      In regards to Ozbeg and the Uzbeks, I believe I mentioned it was just a theory. I read a few possibilities for it (there are a lot of opinions on the matter) but Ozbeg's name was the most common one I found. I never thought it was a great explanation (the only evidence seems to be "well, they sound similar,"), but a usable one. But if you have more information on that, or sources I should read on it, I'd love to read them. It wasn't the focus of this video, but I can do another on it where I discuss the theories.
      If you can show me good evidence and a theory, I am always willing to change my opinion here. I think it would be unprofessional of me to do otherwise, and disrespectful of me to do so when these are peoples' ancestors I talk about.

    • @spikelol9928
      @spikelol9928 6 років тому +1

      @@TheJackmeisterMongolHistory it's coincidences of sound similarities always happen when you contact with russians sources about turkic history. for example, kara khitai and khitai, it's a turkic people who today presents in karakalpak peoples, like tribes khitai-kipchak, khitai-kangly etc. but in russian sources name of khitai transferred to Chinese people. russians call Chineses as Khitai's(Kitaicy, Китайцы). while name kara-khitai and khitai changed to kara-kiDans and kiDans. why I mentioned this? because all western historians find information from russians sources.

    • @_bulanbae_
      @_bulanbae_ 4 роки тому +2

      The Jackmeister: Mongol History Man you are doing great
      I’m kazakh and feel great about some white European man knowing about our culture.A lot of people from other countries tend to think about us as some wild people

  • @playday1875
    @playday1875 6 років тому +146

    I am Kazakh and this is a great video, you have very good insight of our history

    • @kolsveinnskraevolding
      @kolsveinnskraevolding 5 років тому +10

      I know, right, it's amazing he knows Turkic and Mongolic history as well as he does.

    • @askasta5370
      @askasta5370 5 років тому

      Брат, что они говорят ?

    • @askasta5370
      @askasta5370 5 років тому

      @Яudi Что на видео говорят ?

    • @askasta5370
      @askasta5370 5 років тому

      @Яudi на видео что говорят ?

    • @worldofparrots3282
      @worldofparrots3282 4 роки тому +1

      Hi , can you tell me about the history of Saryshagan areas please ?

  • @nazar5323
    @nazar5323 6 років тому +30

    Such a incredible video. I, as Uzbek living in Southern Kazakhstan, found this video very educating. Keep it up brother. Thank you for your effort and time.

    • @TheJackmeisterMongolHistory
      @TheJackmeisterMongolHistory  6 років тому +6

      Thank you so much for your kind words! It makes all the difference to know people really appreciate the effort, especially when it may be their ancestors I talk about.

    • @antonishedsp2036
      @antonishedsp2036 5 років тому +2

      Southern kazakhs and northern kazalhs are very different.

    • @frrrirrrrr
      @frrrirrrrr 4 роки тому +6

      @@antonishedsp2036 Not very lol

    • @maxkhan5044
      @maxkhan5044 4 роки тому

      Õzbekmisiz aka?

    • @nazar5323
      @nazar5323 4 роки тому +1

      @@maxkhan5044 ха, узбекман. Козокистонда яшайман.

  • @MenRot
    @MenRot 6 років тому +12

    I just wanted to thank you for this video

  • @prew492
    @prew492 6 років тому +12

    Thanks for making this video! Appreciate it as a kazakh

    • @Aya-vr8ig
      @Aya-vr8ig 3 роки тому +1

      Неет, вы продукт советской промывки мозгов, они переписали всю нашу историю, назвав нас монголами, но почему же мы тогда мусульмане, а не буддисты?!
      Мы казахи потомки кипчакских тюрков, гуннов, сарматов и других кочевых племён Евразии! Мы не монголы!!!

    • @prew492
      @prew492 3 роки тому +2

      @@Aya-vr8ig myn qol

  • @glodusmuspell9069
    @glodusmuspell9069 Рік тому +5

    Cheers from Kazakhstan. Learning history after 31 years later

  • @dusyad
    @dusyad 5 років тому +30

    The turkic tribes that form the Kazakh nation did not mostly immigrate from Mongolia as some people here state. Some tribes were of mongol origin who adopted the turkic language. However, majority of the tribes that comprise the Kazakh ethnicity are of true Turkic origin. Moreover, the Russian Empire never invaded Kazakhstan. The small horde asked the Russian Empire for the protection, which led to the Russian expansion in the region. Also, the Kazakh people did not emerge due to the Mongols. Emerge is a wrong word to use. The tribes inhabited the territory of the modern Kazakhstan way before Mongols occupied the land and established their rule. The mongol rule might have helped united the various turkic tribes into one nation.

    • @Zharas94
      @Zharas94 4 роки тому

      Not the whole Junior Juz asked for Russian protection, it was Abul Khair Khan which wasn't khan for Shekti(Alimuly clan), shekti, they fought agaisnt Russian with Kenesary Khan together.

    • @Buyanjagal.B
      @Buyanjagal.B Рік тому +6

      @@Zharas94 про Абульхаира это ложь. Он не просил подданства. Также ложь про монгольские происхождения некоторых наших родов. Всю эту кашу заварила рос империя и советский. Все казахи даже включая род торе истинные тюрки!!!

    • @tangatdop
      @tangatdop Рік тому +1

      "never invaded Kazakhstan' seriously?

    • @Nenet-rj9yr
      @Nenet-rj9yr 4 місяці тому

      ​@@Buyanjagal.Byes true Göktürks

    • @AS-ut9uz
      @AS-ut9uz 20 днів тому

      What is the difference between turk and mongols I never understood this? Aren't they originally from the same area?

  • @aidiverse6050
    @aidiverse6050 3 роки тому +8

    Thanks from Kazakhstan 🇰🇿. I subscribe your channel. This is amazing history video

  • @Гөктүрікхандығы
    @Гөктүрікхандығы 2 роки тому +12

    Түркиядан келген бауырларыма деген махаббатым шексіз🇰🇿💙
    Türkiyeden kardeşlerime sonsuz sevgiler🇹🇷❤️
    ҚАЗАҚСТАН АЛҒА!!!!🇰🇿🇰🇿🇰🇿🇰🇿🇰🇿 😊😊😊👋👋

    • @dctdct6142
      @dctdct6142 2 роки тому +3

      Salem bolsun Qazaq eline! Biz sizi öte kattı jaksı köremiz Qazaq bawırlarımız.🇰🇿🇹🇷

    • @LASTER1337-c3y
      @LASTER1337-c3y 2 роки тому +4

      Kazakhstan orginted from the Mongol empire

    • @dctdct6142
      @dctdct6142 2 роки тому +3

      @@LASTER1337-c3y жоқ

    • @dctdct6142
      @dctdct6142 2 роки тому +3

      @@LASTER1337-c3y just keep play ur video games kid and don’t speak about Turkic nations. Qazaqs are great sons of Kipchaks not mongols!

    • @refl1x362
      @refl1x362 2 роки тому +1

      @@dctdct6142 Kazakh was founded by a genghisid.

  • @ayokak19
    @ayokak19 3 роки тому +7

    I’m from Kazakhstan 🇰🇿 and I like it

  • @dancemonkey118
    @dancemonkey118 3 роки тому +44

    Turkic history is amazing.

  • @ElBandito
    @ElBandito 6 років тому +38

    Kazakhs were like that of the many contemporary steppe powers such as the Shaybanids, the Uzbeks, and the Timurids. Ruled by the descendants of Chingis Khan, but the population were predominantly of Turko-Mongol mixture. It is a shame that Kazakhstan and Mongolia do not share border at present day--PRC and USSR saw to that.

    • @Mongol1232
      @Mongol1232 6 років тому +18

      El Bandito The area between kazakhstan and mongolia was formely Dzungaria belonging to the Dzungar Oirat Mongols. Shame that geopolitical tricks and invasions caused it to be lost to china and russia

    • @mongolchiuud8931
      @mongolchiuud8931 6 років тому

      That area is mostly mountains though, the border literally just follows the mountain range rather then it being some kind of communist trick. lol

    • @bataabagi5969
      @bataabagi5969 6 років тому +8

      @@mongolchiuud8931 but it is communist trick , which happend a lot , for other examples look at inner Mongolia and how USSR sold it to PRC, and Baikal lake is taken from Mongolia, Baikal aka Baigal means nature in Mongolian and a considered a common name for female children as a sign of beauty

    • @arghunpride5704
      @arghunpride5704 5 років тому +19

      Bataa Bagi It was big crime of communist soviets, who gave Inner Mongolia to communist China. And also that idiots gave East Turkestan (Xinjiang), as a present to Mao Dzedun.

    • @spikelol9928
      @spikelol9928 4 роки тому

      @@bataabagi5969 as always there exists some mongolic idiot that missinterpret turkic words and their meanings to foreigners. how come turkic name "Bay kol" which means "Rich lake" became mongolic word for nature? you are really idiot. have you ever heard of Issyk Kol (Warm lake), or Kara kol (Black lake) or Ak kol (White lake)? of course not, because you live in such artificially created manchurian-mongolic world where you are on top of it, but in reality you suck. next time use google pls before showing off otherwise you could shit your pants in shame as it is right now.

  • @asianooasia6719
    @asianooasia6719 4 роки тому +63

    Мен сені сүйемін қандас бауырларым! Монғолдар мен қазақтар бірдей халық!
    I love you blood brothers, we mongols and kazakhs we are one blood people.
    For our Tengri !

    • @Shirkinbai
      @Shirkinbai 4 роки тому +15

      ол орыстың өтірігі, 12 ғасыр моңғолдары ол Түркілер,
      if you want the truth then you must read original sources

    • @tahaz5048
      @tahaz5048 4 роки тому +4

      ASIANOO asia and we are hazara of Afghanistan originating from Turkic-mongol. What a world hey?

    • @TQKEDQ
      @TQKEDQ 3 роки тому +7

      Kazakh and Mongols are not brothers.

    • @TQKEDQ
      @TQKEDQ 3 роки тому +3

      @@qarangy2231 It doesn't matter, kazakh are not brothers to mongols, CA people also has a Indo-European blood, so, could ya say that indians are brothers too kazakhs also?

    • @TQKEDQ
      @TQKEDQ 3 роки тому +1

      So, you're telling me the same thing about indians. If mongols were nomads, and kazakhs also, it doesn't mean that they're brothers of bloods, probably you're related with mongols.

  • @saulgoodmanKAZAKH
    @saulgoodmanKAZAKH 3 роки тому +5

    The 'Abul-Khayr' pronounciation is so satisfying!)

  • @andrewhorsfall317
    @andrewhorsfall317 Рік тому +1

    Love this video. Thanks for making!

  • @kidtsunami3993
    @kidtsunami3993 6 років тому +73

    The traditions of Kazakhs accustomed to keep memory about their ancestors. Every Kazakh person should know his tribe, clan and and in minimum seven previous generation of men. So.. Kazakhs include a mongol tribes that keeping their names since Ghenghizkhan invasion Kongrat, Naiman, Kerei etc.. Some of tribes such as mongol tribe "Manghyt" assimilated in Kipchak steppe and "changed" his name to "Alshyn", and known in Kazakh tribal system as "Baiuly". Legitimate Ghenghizkhan descendants still living in Kazakh society under the clanname "Töre". They haven't any privilege, they living like rest of the people, they just know that it's cool to be Töre 😉 if you look at haplogroup test maps, Kazakhs also have same group with Mongols and another Mongol descendants in Afghanistan, "Hazara". 1:27 Kirei is wrong, his name was Kerei 3:34 the name of Qasymkhan have been pronounced wrong. I know, It's not easy for you to pronounce it more correctly. Because you probably have no idea what sound, really meant by a letter "y". Little piece of advice.. Don't pronounce this letter "y", just say it as.. "Qas'm khan" but definitely not like you pronounced it.. "Kizim" 😉 for Kazakh ears it sounds like.. My girl or my daughter 😂 4:28 calling it "Small Horde (Zhüz)" , definitely wrong. It's not easy to translate and give a direct meaning. This group of tribes is not small or little by size or territory. The meaning of "Kishi Zhüz", closer to.. Young or Junior. Why? Great Horde (Wly (Uly) Zhüz) include the tribes that been known from ancient times before mongol invasion.. Dulat, Uisun, kangly. Middle Horde (Orta Zhüz) tribes keeping their names conditionally speaking.. from the time around of Ghenghizkan era.. Kipchak, Kongrat, Naiman.. And Young Horde (Zhuz) tribes, get their names after the mongols was completely assimilated in local culture of "Desht Kipchak". Young Zhuz is a mix of mongol and kipchak tribes that created new tribe names. Not all Kazakh tribes descendants of mongols, most of them are turkic tribes, also have an influence of ancient Iranian tribes and maybe just a bit finnoughr. Alternative name for Kazakh is Alash, it's came from all Kazakhs battlecry. Thanks for nice video

    • @mongolchiuud8931
      @mongolchiuud8931 6 років тому +1

      "Some of tribes such as mongol tribe "Manghyt" assimilated in Kipchak steppe and "changed" his name to "Alshyn"
      They joined the little Juz but they didnt change their name to Alshyn...As Alshyn is the name of the "Tribal Union" or Confederation/Jhuz that they joined. And were a core tribe in that union as the territory they lived on was the former Nogai/Manghit horde. But they didnt rename themselves Alshyn...lol
      Alshyn is the name of the Confederation/union of tribes/Jhuz not a tribe. lol
      Fun Fact: the last khan of Bukhara in 1920 was from the Manghit Dynasty.
      ""Alshyn also known in Kazakh tribal system as "Baiuly".
      Not correct- Baiuly like Alimuly and Zhetyru are the three "Tribes" that make up Alshyn, its not an alternative name of it....lol
      "Kirei is wrong, his name was Kerei 3:34 the name of Qasymkhan have been pronounced wrong. I know, It's not easy for you to pronounce it more correctly. "
      Depends on which turkic and in some cases Mongolian dialect you want to use-
      Most Mongolian tribes in Kazakhstan are pronounced wrong by Turks all the time.
      Different language so different sounds no biggie.
      Random thoughts- Alasha in Ossetian and in Eastern iranian languages means Warrior.
      One of the major tribes in the modern Sarmastani people of Afghanistan is called Alasha.
      Its also found in the Sagazai tribes there as well.
      Also are the Mazar tribe related to Hungarians?

    • @johntan1064
      @johntan1064 6 років тому +8

      Dughlats are a strong mongolic tribe from Mogholistan

    • @mentei7384
      @mentei7384 6 років тому +18

      I'm an Altay-Kazakh and absolutely agree on your point about keeping our memories about our ancestors

    • @yersultansultan777
      @yersultansultan777 5 років тому +4

      @@johntan1064 Yes, I am Douglat( Dulat - Kazakh) tribe, nirun- myngols(mogol-turcik ) now in Kazakhstan about 1,5-1, 8 mln dulat's living!

    • @bandohoxton5870
      @bandohoxton5870 5 років тому +4

      SO WHY DID THEY BECOME MUSLIMS , COMMUNISTS , RUSSIAN , PERSIAN , TURKISH SPEAKING PEOPLE ? YOU LEFT YOUR MONGOL IDENTITY TO ACCEPT WESTERN INTERPRETATIONS WHO CANT BE TRUE .

  • @Patrick-oc1vq
    @Patrick-oc1vq 6 років тому +34

    Please do a video of the Origins of the Kyrgyz. I'm a Kyrgyz descent.

    • @TheJackmeisterMongolHistory
      @TheJackmeisterMongolHistory  6 років тому +1

      In the future I will try to do one! That would be very interesting

    • @ProfessorOFanthropology979
      @ProfessorOFanthropology979 4 роки тому +2

      @Bayek Of Siwa they speak a Turkic language so it’s not possible for them to have Iranian origins. Typically speaking the Kyrgyz are the most Asian looking of all the Turkic groups. The Turkic groups that absorbed steppe Iranians would be the Turkmen and Tatars in Russia. The Uzbeks are mixed between Turkic and Iranian so the term turkified could be more accurately used when talking about sedentary Uzbeks

    • @_berat.ugur_3089
      @_berat.ugur_3089 3 роки тому +1

      you are kyrgyz turk.

    • @teovu5557
      @teovu5557 3 роки тому +1

      @@ProfessorOFanthropology979 why were ancient Kirghiz described as red haired green eyes tall with fair skin yet modern kryrgzs look no different from mongols and Chinese? Looking at Kirghiz people's DNA today it shows 64% have the same indo European ydna as most of Europe and south Asia and is ydna R1a. Which means they were iranic but mixed with mostly Asian nomads and are now nearly totally Asian genetically autosomally.

    • @ProfessorOFanthropology979
      @ProfessorOFanthropology979 3 роки тому +1

      @@teovu5557 no, you have to understand that the ancient Kyrgyz and the modern Kyrgyz are very different racially and linguistically, the old Kyrgyz spoke a form of Siberian Turkic where the modern Kyrgyz speak a kipchak dialect. The Kyrgyz of today are essentially turko Mongolian merged with old Kyrgyz tribes of from the days of the yenesei

  • @ПүрэвжавХүрэлбаатар

    We ara brothers❤ 🇲🇳 🇰🇿

    • @Ackerman-bx9ig
      @Ackerman-bx9ig 9 місяців тому +3

      Hii. let's be friends I am from Kazakhstan

    • @ksbsusbsjssb
      @ksbsusbsjssb 8 місяців тому +5

      hell no

    • @alisherburkhan
      @alisherburkhan 8 місяців тому +2

      Yes, Dchuchi and Tole descendants are brothers 👍🏻

    • @Adai_balasy1994
      @Adai_balasy1994 5 місяців тому +4

      Salam brothers✊🇰🇿

    • @Adai_balasy1994
      @Adai_balasy1994 5 місяців тому +7

      Джучи наш прадед

  • @Mongolnazi
    @Mongolnazi 4 роки тому +22

    You've got just one mistake - Barak Khan is not descendant of Toqa-Timur, but Orda-Ezen, the eldest son of Jochi, he owned tge largest ulus, taking place at modern territory of Kazakhstan

    • @neustorf5078
      @neustorf5078 Рік тому +2

      не это как раз таки ошибка, казахские ханы были потомками тука тимура

  • @cvb2733
    @cvb2733 6 років тому +5

    Great video as usual!

  • @Lolibett
    @Lolibett Місяць тому +1

    Fascinating history. But I still wonder whether it’s 100 percent accurate? My grandfather is from Altai Kazakhs - region that is now divided between Russia China and Mongolia. He used to tell me that Altai area is historically originally Kazakhs land and no mix with mongols . Do you have any insights on this?

  • @yeldos
    @yeldos 4 роки тому +12

    2 years have passed. Still waiting new video about Qazaq khanate`s collapse. Also please make video about the last chinggisid khan Kenesary

    • @QasqaZhol
      @QasqaZhol 10 місяців тому

      Қазақ хандығын Тәуеке ханнан кейінгі билер кеңесі құлатты. Тәуке хан өз билігінде заңдарды өзгертіп, ханзадалардың билігін шектеп, билер мен ақсақалдардың билігін көтерді. Содан құрылтайларда жаңа хандарды билер кеңесі дауыс берумен тағайындайтын. Ал оған дейін хандарға тек әскери жетістіктері бар, талантты әрі ақылды ханзадалар өз жетістіктерімен хан болып тағайындалған. Көбінесе қарапайым жұрттың көзіне түсіп аты шыққан мықты ханзадалар хан болған. Ал Тәуке ханнан кейін ондай хандар билікке келсе, билер өздерінің Тәуке хан беріп кеткен биліктерінен айырыламыз деп 50 жылға дейін билердің айтқанын тыңдайтын хандарға дауыс берген. Сол себептен қазақ үш жүзге бөлініп кетті ақырында.

  • @TheJackmeisterMongolHistory
    @TheJackmeisterMongolHistory  6 років тому +32

    In case you were unaware, I always put the sources I used in the description of the video, but I think I will also start adding a comment with them as well. I want people to understand just how much research I put into these videos!
    Brill Olcott, Martha. The Kazakhs. Studies in Nationalities of the USSR Series Stanford: Hoover Institution Press, 1987.
    DeWeese, Devin A. Islamization and Native Religion in the Golden Horde: Baba Tükles and Conversion to Islam in Historical and Epic Tradition. Pennsylvania: Pennsylvania State University Press.
    Dulik, Matthew C, Lumila P. Osipova and Theodore G. Schurr. “Y-Chromosome Variation in Altaian Kazakhs Reveals a Common Paternal Gene Pool for Kazakhs and the Influence of Mongolian Expansions. PLoS One 6 no. 3 (2011): 1-12.
    Forsyth, James. A History of the Peoples of Siberia: Russia’s North Asian Colony, 1581-1990. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 1992.
    Lee, Joo-Yup. “The Political Vagabondage of the Chinggisid and Timurid Contenders to the Throne and Other in Post-Mongol Central Asia and the Qipchaq Steppe: A Comprehensive Study of Qazalïq, or the Qazaq Way of Life.” Central Asiatic Journal 60 no. 1-2, Migration and Nation-Building in Central and Western Asia: Turkic Peoples and Their Neighbours (II) (2017): 59-95.
    May, Timothy. The Mongol Conquests in World History. London: Reaktion Books, 2012.

  • @GlitchPredator
    @GlitchPredator 6 місяців тому +1

    My great grandfather was Ablai Khan and that was all I knew but watching this video has learned me a lot about my ancestry. Thank you!

    • @sanzhar6399
      @sanzhar6399 15 днів тому

      Қай руыдан шықтың

    • @GlitchPredator
      @GlitchPredator 15 днів тому +1

      @sanzhar6399 not sure, just know the area. my mom said middle Jüz i believe. Im half dutch so i unfortunately never learned to write kazakh and i honestly dont know much other than the ablai khan ancestry. Im sorry. Which tribes are there?

    • @sanzhar6399
      @sanzhar6399 15 днів тому

      @@GlitchPredator oh, well i am sorry, the descendants of genghis khan isn't in any jüz

    • @sanzhar6399
      @sanzhar6399 15 днів тому

      @@GlitchPredator well if you are related to töre tribe, then you are

    • @GlitchPredator
      @GlitchPredator 15 днів тому +1

      @@sanzhar6399 ohhh, I wish I knew. Is there a way to know other than talking to family? I did a dna test and it showed me a couple areas where my ancestors are from in Kazakhstan and Mongolia.
      Also which area are you from?

  • @kraut1982
    @kraut1982 Рік тому +4

    Does anyone else see the similarities between ‘Saka’ and Ka-zakh? They might be the the Saka ‘beyond the sea’ described in the Behistun inscription in Iran of Darius. From Persian perspective the Sakas are located beyond the Caspian sea.

  • @slopy8bitretogamer-252
    @slopy8bitretogamer-252 5 років тому +31

    I love history especially Turkic and Mongolian history or just nomadic horse archer peoples and I see even tho this channel is called Mongol history it doesn’t just cover Mongol history it also covers Turkic history evidence by this video so I was wondering can u do a video on the origins of the oghuz Turks because I descend from ohguz nomads my grandpa is yöruk which are Anatolian nomads who are basically the most Turkic people in turkey because they mainly descend from the ohguz migrants and I’ve done some research and the ohguz who were from Central Asia and although possibly not true they say the ohguz originate from the tiele people of the high cats which was of many Turkic tribes in Siberia and Mongolia who might have been descend from the previous xiougnu who are also possibly proto Turkic or proto Mongol and from research they say the tiele migrated into Central Asia from Siberia and Mongolia and mixed with the left Iranian nomads because at the time of the Turkic Khaganate many Turkic tribes came and mixed with the Iranian population and at the time the tiele were still in Mongolia do could u do a video about the orgins of the ohguz Turks please

    • @TheJackmeisterMongolHistory
      @TheJackmeisterMongolHistory  5 років тому +3

      I certainly will, in time. I hope to in the future have an entire library of videos on the origins and history of various steppe peoples from across time. There's a lot of overlap between all these peoples, and it's interesting to see how the can share the same 'homelands' over time. The Xiongnu in particular I want to learn more about, and many people ask for them. So at some point I will start with them and work my way through time.

    • @slopy8bitretogamer-252
      @slopy8bitretogamer-252 5 років тому +1

      The Jackmeister: Mongol History k thanks a lot btw keep up the good work

    • @oguzoglu7297
      @oguzoglu7297 4 роки тому +9

      I can tell you. I am an Oğuz Turk. So I am a Turkmen. Many people are confused when they see Oğuz Turks. Let me tell you this. Oğuz always looked mongoloid back in time. We are the direct descendants of the Seljuks and the only Oğuz who look still close like our ancestors. Look at the Seljuk stucco figures (balbals) and paintings, also you can read the inscriptions about the Seljuk Turks by the Arabs and Persian. They look mongoloid. Even in my clan we have those features. Now many Turkmens today look Eurasian, because of mixing with non Turkic people, but still got Asian features. The mixing began back then when the Seljuks conquered and turkified the fallen Persian Empire. And not all tribes have mixed. I see still many Turkmens for example in Iran or Afghanistan who look like Kazakhs. Of course we have also mixed ones. What many idiots don't know and this surprises me a lot, that only the Turkmens are the true Oğuz people. All 24 tribes are Turkmens tribes. So many Caucasian looking Oğuz Turks like Karapapak, Karachay, Gaugaz, Kumyk, Azerbaijanis claiming being Oğuz, but don't fit in any tribe and therefore are just turkified. The majority of Azerbaijanis are also non Turkic. It's like in Turkey. Only few of them are from Turkmen tribes and look like mixed Oğuz people, like for example from the Afşar tribe, Aq Qoyunlu and Qara Qoyunlu tribe. So being an Oğuz Turk means having Turkmen heritage otherwise you are just turkified. Even our ancestor Oğuz Khagan which is also called Modu Chanyu (Mete Khan) is Asian. The Turkmens are the only Oğuz who have Central Asian features and have nomadic traditions in Turkmenistan, Iran, Afghanistan and Turkey. And we used to call ourself Turcoman way before the "Mongol" identity.

    • @tahaz5048
      @tahaz5048 4 роки тому +6

      Slopy8bitretogamer- 2 we are hazara in Afghanistan 🇦🇫 and originally we are Turkic- Mongol.

    • @papazataklaattiranimam
      @papazataklaattiranimam 4 роки тому +1

      Bayek Of Siwa 👳🏾‍♂️blsht nazi claim

  • @Rugged-Mongol
    @Rugged-Mongol 8 місяців тому +3

    ᢈᠥᠰᢈᠡ Khösög хөсөг is the Mongol word for the wooden cart that our Inner Asian/Central Asian/Eurasian nomads use to transport their round felt homes and other wares across migratory routes.
    Possibly the etymology of, 'Kazak' permutation.

    • @danaackerman8807
      @danaackerman8807 5 місяців тому

      wow I didn't know that because in our language kazak does not mean anything always sought may be one of our neighbour's gave that name to us. I am from Kazakhstan would like to have a mongol friend. I would like to know more about my tribe and ancestors of Ungiradd tribe.

    • @sanzhar6399
      @sanzhar6399 15 днів тому

      No, actually meaning of Kazakh is "peace" or freedom. It was gaven by kerei zhanibek. They both descendants of genghis khan

  • @papazataklaattiranimam
    @papazataklaattiranimam 3 роки тому +10

    Everybody is talking about Turkified Mongolic tribes of Central Asia but nobody is talking about Mongolized Turkic tribes of East Asia puff😐

    • @papazataklaattiranimam
      @papazataklaattiranimam 2 роки тому +2

      For example Öngüts, Naimans, Merkits, Keraites etc.

    • @Nenet-rj9yr
      @Nenet-rj9yr 4 місяці тому

      Thanks for reminding

    • @blackbaron7881
      @blackbaron7881 2 місяці тому

      @@papazataklaattiranimam😂 Cuz those are Mongol tribes . Kazakhs have C haplogroup cuz they absorbed Mongol tribes while Mongols are mostly C haplogroup

  • @mericanwit
    @mericanwit Рік тому

    Always informative thank you for your time on this topic

  • @era6519
    @era6519 Рік тому

    very detailed video. Greetings from Kazakh republick

  • @brettalizer3271
    @brettalizer3271 6 років тому +6

    not sure how i found your channel i'm glad i did great video thanks! are you planning on doing a video/videos on timur?

    • @TheJackmeisterMongolHistory
      @TheJackmeisterMongolHistory  6 років тому +2

      I'm glad you found it as well! Yes I will cover Timur in the future. I hope to do his life in some detail, so he will get a number of videos once I get through the course of the Mongol Empire.

    • @brettalizer3271
      @brettalizer3271 6 років тому +2

      awesome i have joined the notification khaganate I eagerly await this particular Kurultai! are you going to cover other steppe peoples? seljuks,bulgars,huns,magyars etc? or just the mongols and their descendants?

    • @TheJackmeisterMongolHistory
      @TheJackmeisterMongolHistory  6 років тому +2

      For the moment I just intend on focusing on the Mongols and descendants/successor states (so Kazakhs, Timurids, possibly Mughals). As well, some videos on the history of people they interacted with in the thirteenth century (so Qara-Khitai and Kipchaks and Cumans, and probably the Seljuks as well). I could definitely see doing videos on earlier steppe people in the future though, especially once I am through the Mongol Empire and the Timurids.

    • @brettalizer3271
      @brettalizer3271 6 років тому +1

      awesome sounds good you really deserve more subs have you tried reaching out to other youtubers to do a colab or get a shoutout?

  • @zafarsharif993
    @zafarsharif993 Рік тому +2

    Ilkhanate does not mean Persian got mongolized.The king of ilkhanate khazan converted to Islam/sunnah,and the sons of olgestu also converted to Islam/sunnah.Afterwards ilkhanate also dissappeared and local Persian rulers started ruling the regions.

  • @arghunpride5704
    @arghunpride5704 5 років тому +15

    Kazakh nation consists of turkic tribes, mostly migrated from modern Mongolia. And there are some mistakes with Russian Empire/Zunghar invasion time).
    But anyway, thanks for this great video.
    Greetings from Kazakhstan!

    • @munhbayrl
      @munhbayrl 3 роки тому +2

      No bro kereit destendants is still more here

    • @xlarge7370
      @xlarge7370 3 роки тому +2

      @@munhbayrl where are the Orkun Göktürk monuments? İn mongolia...so mongolia is the real land for turks....discussion over

    • @Buyanjagal.B
      @Buyanjagal.B Рік тому +1

      @@munhbayrl Kazakhs have nothing in common with modern Mongols! The term Mongol is not ethnically, but a political term coined by Genghis Khan. Genghis Khan was also a Turk!
      where are the Orkun Göktürk monuments? İn mongolia...so mongolia is the real land for turks, not modern Mongols!!!

  • @turmunhkganba1705
    @turmunhkganba1705 4 роки тому +4

    There’s a channel called “Arghun Pride” who has reuploaded your video did he have permission?

    • @TheJackmeisterMongolHistory
      @TheJackmeisterMongolHistory  4 роки тому +2

      Thanks for bringing this to my attention, I did not know this had happened. No, I have not given anyone permission to re upload any of my videos, especially if they have not changed anything or commenting about it.

  • @YY-ug9mv
    @YY-ug9mv 5 років тому +4

    Very nice drawing skills.

  • @belgisizalem
    @belgisizalem 5 років тому +12

    the most important thing is to understand that the Mongols of the empire of Genghis Khan and the modern Mongols are different things. Only the name is similar. Kazakhs are descendants of medieval Mongols and Türks. and modern Mongols are descendants of medieval Mongols.

    • @kaybevang536
      @kaybevang536 4 роки тому

      BELGISIZ ALEM is Say because Kazakhstan is closest to Mongolia and a little far away of the Turkic middle eastern and Slavic intermixing like the Cuman Kipchaks And Seljuks Of Rum geographically speaking perhaps

    • @temuujinable
      @temuujinable 4 роки тому +2

      Ancient turkic people and modern day turks are very different

    • @papazataklaattiranimam
      @papazataklaattiranimam 3 роки тому

      @@temuujinable not very different

    • @temuujinable
      @temuujinable 3 роки тому

      @@papazataklaattiranimam i meant Turkish people from turkey are very different from ancient turkic people from euroasian steppe

    • @papazataklaattiranimam
      @papazataklaattiranimam 3 роки тому +1

      @@temuujinable %50 different

  • @Mongol1232
    @Mongol1232 6 років тому +14

    So were the Kazakh people formed from Mongol tribes or from Turkic tribes already living in that area? Or both?

    • @Aldi-pv1eb
      @Aldi-pv1eb 6 років тому +19

      Batur Bilguun Our language is part of turkic group, genetically we have both turkic and mongol blood.

    • @Mongol1232
      @Mongol1232 6 років тому +1

      Aldi Do Kazakhs like Mongols? How come the Kazakhs don't intermarry with the Mongols in Mongolia. Is it because of religion?

    • @Aldi-pv1eb
      @Aldi-pv1eb 6 років тому +1

      Batur Bilguun I know nothing about Kazakhs in Mongolia. Are you from Mongolia?

    • @TheJackmeisterMongolHistory
      @TheJackmeisterMongolHistory  6 років тому +14

      I can't say much on Kazakhs in Mongolia. But I can add a little to Aldi's comment. The Kazakhs were from mainly turkic tribes, but ones which emerged or were heavily influenced by the Mongols. With both Mongol and turkic blood, Mongol identity played heavily in politics, as I noted in the video Khans being chosen from descent from Chinggis. Linguistically Kazakh is a turkic language, but I believe with considerable amount of word which can be traced to Mongolian.

    • @johntan1064
      @johntan1064 6 років тому +3

      Kipchaks and Cuman form the majority of Kara Suiuk/Suyuk. The mongolian tribes and khoja/Khodgja form the Ak Suiuk/Suyuk in the Khanate. Unlike the Uzbeks that revile Chinggis the Kazakhs and mongols share something like worshipping or venerating him. Islam isn't deeply rooted as noted by russian missionaries that the kazakhs worship spring water and ancestral spirits. As well as high veneration of Chinggis. Also noted by Safavid envoys that record they live much like the Altan Orda. They also mention Tauke Khan look like Genghis.

  • @tasbykekerey1203
    @tasbykekerey1203 3 роки тому +7

    I am Kerei Kazakh, and my friend is Nayman Kazakh. So where our ancestors came from? Do you know?

    • @buyantogtokhua18
      @buyantogtokhua18 3 роки тому +8

      Read The Secret History of Mongols, Kerei come from Kereid aimaq from central Mongolia, Nayman ulus also comes from Altai mountain, western Mongolia. In Cyrillic, they are written as хэрэйд аймаг, найман улс. After unification of Turko-Mongol tribes of Mongolia, following Chagatai, 2nd son of Chingis Khaan, hereid and naiman people migrated to modern Kazakhstan. But not all of them, some stayed in Mongolia. Don't read Russian translated Secret History of Mongolia, but English version. It will tell you the true origin of Kazakh people.

    • @papazataklaattiranimam
      @papazataklaattiranimam 3 роки тому +1

      @Nadir Hikmet Kuleli knk dc var mı

    • @sakyd
      @sakyd 3 роки тому +4

      @@buyantogtokhua18 Turks come in mongolia but Turks are Turk and Kazakhs turkic dna more of than mongolian dna.

    • @buyantogtokhua18
      @buyantogtokhua18 3 роки тому +7

      @Nadir Hikmet Kuleli Interesting, however keep in mind that you should not treat these nomad tribes as city states of the classical era. Tribes were much fluid and always on the move. Unless there's a war, these tribes lived closely. So their language and cultures were very similar. You could never find a true Mongol tribe nor a true Turkic tribe. From Western point of view it's hard to grasp. Mongols and Turks of the time were very different from what it is today. So people look at modern Mongols and Turks, talk about those ancients tribes, which is a big mistake. More you know about them, it's far more complex than initially thought. I usually don't respond to stupid people. This subject needs to be debated academically, mere amateurs should not even involve themselves. The problem is nowadays we have tons of historians who know nothing about history.

    • @KZnaiman888
      @KZnaiman888 3 роки тому +9

      Turkified mongols we r

  • @Alikhan4867
    @Alikhan4867 4 роки тому +14

    The thing is that the term "mongol" in those times(13th century) meant ethnically not only mongolian tribes,but also turkic.Mostly it was political term which referred to all mongolian and turkic nomads.Also you can see that the kazaks are mix of mongolian and turkic tribes with iranian influence.

    • @papazataklaattiranimam
      @papazataklaattiranimam 4 роки тому +9

      Kazakhs have no iranian influence

    • @papazataklaattiranimam
      @papazataklaattiranimam 4 роки тому +6

      Kazakhs are Turkic people with Mongolic influence

    • @Alikhan4867
      @Alikhan4867 4 роки тому +5

      @@papazataklaattiranimam Of course kazakhs are turkic people with huge mongolian influence, but iranian in this case is saka,massaget tribes who lived in the iron era on the territory of Kazakhstan before the arrival of the Turks.

    • @papazataklaattiranimam
      @papazataklaattiranimam 4 роки тому +4

      Kazakhstan was always turk,harvard genetics proved

    • @papazataklaattiranimam
      @papazataklaattiranimam 4 роки тому +1

      Sakas and Massagets were Turks
      The Turkish presence in Western Thrace started with the arrival of the Scythian Turks who came to the Balkans in the 2nd century BC together with the 'Western Branch' of migrants from Central Asia.
      books.google.com.tr/books?id=VpdXKpmaYLEC&printsec=frontcover&dq=a+modern+theory+of+language+evolution&hl=tr&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwisvcCdhrroAhWwk4sKHUxfBG8Q6AEIJTAA#v=onepage&q=Turkic&f=false
      Contemporary populations linked to western Iron Age steppe people can be found among diverse ethnic groups in the Caucasus, Russia and Central Asia (spread across many Iranian and other Indo- European speaking groups), whereas populations with genetic
      similarities to eastern Scythian groups are found almost exclusively among Turkic language speakers (Supplementary Figs 10 and 11).
      reich.hms.harvard.edu/sites/reich.hms.harvard.edu/files/inline-files/ncomms14615_0.pdf
      Contemporary descendants of western Scythian groups are found among various groups in the Caucasus and Central Asia, while similarities to eastern Scythian are found to be more widespread, but almost exclusively among Turkic language speaking (formerly) nomadic groups, particularly from the Kipchak branch of Turkic languages (Supplementary Note 1).
      www.nature.com/articles/ncomms14615
      Caucasus and Central Asia, while similarities to eastern Scythian are found to be more widespread, but almost exclusively among Turkic language speaking (formerly) nomadic groups, particularly from the Kipchak branch of Turkic languages (Supplementary Note 1).
      eurogenes.blogspot.com/2017/03/genetic-origins-and-legacy-of-scythians.html?m=1
      Turkic tribes like Sakas, Kushanas, when they settled on India's borders and inside it also adopted ...
      www.cs.colostate.edu/~malaiya/turkish.html
      s155239215.onlinehome.us/turkic/27_Scythians/EthnicRootsEn.htm
      Central to this network had been the far-flung empire of the Turkic Kushans (Indo-Scythians)
      books.google.com.tr/books?id=5JKnBAAAQBAJ&pg=PT19&dq=COLUMBIAUNIVERSITYPRESS&hl=tr&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjzmpj15ffrAhUE_CoKHaHDAz4Q6AEwAHoECAMQAQ#v=onepage&q=&f=false
      aibs.columbia.edu/books.html
      Both Kushans and Scythians were of Turki origin.
      (University of Sind)
      books.google.com.tr/books?hl=tr&id=q3FXAAAAMAAJ&dq=both+kushans+and+scythians+were+of+pakistan&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=Turki
      The Sacae were a mixed people, probably a fusion of Iranian, Finnish, and Turkish- the antithesis of modern Hungarians. Exactly the same may be presumed about the Alans. The Chinese consider them as near relations of the Turks.
      (Harvard University Press)
      books.google.com.tr/books?hl=tr&id=tMdRefDs_G4C&dq=HARVARDUNIVERSITYPRESS&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=Hungarians
      hizliresim.com/aDjnZ0
      hizliresim.com/IfZFMW

  • @movie9600
    @movie9600 2 роки тому +6

    This comments!!! Kazakh, Halha people always writing hate comments!

    • @Nenet-rj9yr
      @Nenet-rj9yr 4 місяці тому +1

      Yes i have noticed they are so racist that hate Turks.. Türkics...

  • @Lolibett
    @Lolibett 29 днів тому +1

    False . Maybe Kazakhs in Kazakhstan not Kazakhs in occupied East Turkestan china renamed as Xinjiang

  • @bayermgl
    @bayermgl 3 роки тому +6

    History is not so simple that some idiots see things as today or as their perspective. Especially it is not as if some Anatolian Greeks or turkified Persians think. Studying history, tradition and gene, Kazak, Kirgiz and Mongolians are very similar people and relatives. Kazak, Kirgiz people have more Turkic gene than Mongolian gene and more similar customs than Mongolians. Mongolians have also central Asian dna or Turkic dna as well. Basically Kazakh is new nation mixed by turkified Mongols and other central asian Turkic ethnicities.

    • @papazataklaattiranimam
      @papazataklaattiranimam 3 роки тому

      By that logic Mongolians are mixture of Turkic,Tibetic,Sinitic,Tungusic and Mongolic :))) Kazakhstan had their own Turkic tribes long before the word Mongol or Mongolian was ever invented.

    • @papazataklaattiranimam
      @papazataklaattiranimam 3 роки тому

      Turkic and Mongolic peoples are not relatives,Altaic theory has been died long before.

    • @bayermgl
      @bayermgl 3 роки тому +4

      @@papazataklaattiranimam I didn’t say Turkish and Mongolians are relatives. I said Kazakhs and Mongolians are. Before Golden horde, there was no ethnicity called Kazakh, there was mostly Kipchaks. So Kazakh is new nation and heavily influenced and blended by Mongols specially from paternal side. If you don’t believe check their DNA and their lifestyle. Tell me where you are from Mr. Imam? You seems like Turkified Persian.

    • @Buyanjagal.B
      @Buyanjagal.B Рік тому +1

      @@bayermgl there were no Mongols before Genghis Khan either! Kazakhs are descendants of the Turkic and have nothing to do with modern Mongols! Go f*ck yourself!!!

    • @Buyanjagal.B
      @Buyanjagal.B Рік тому +1

      @@bayermgl where are the Orkun Göktürk monuments? İn mongolia...so mongolia is the real land for turks....discussion over
      Go f*ck yourself!!!

  • @bigjavo36
    @bigjavo36 4 роки тому +8

    I had always wondered why Kazakh and Cossack seemed so similar and why it wasn’t clear if it meant the same people or not. Thanks for clearing that up.

    • @manchuqing4560
      @manchuqing4560 2 роки тому +2

      It's from Kipchak Turkic, and southern Russia used to be Kipchak territory.

    • @LogicaetRatio-r8z
      @LogicaetRatio-r8z Рік тому +1

      In the Golden Horde, Qazaqliq meant a group of free Kipchak and Mongol free horse riders. The Ukrainian and Russian Cossacks were also free horse riders

  • @rayyankhan343
    @rayyankhan343 6 років тому +11

    Great vieo

  • @klewank2615
    @klewank2615 Місяць тому +1

    This is proof that Central Asia/Kazakhstan was once inhabited by Caucasians like the Oguz, not Mongoloids.

  • @mericanwit
    @mericanwit 4 роки тому +4

    I am Donski Kalmyk Cossack living in USA!

    • @Mongolnazi
      @Mongolnazi 4 роки тому +3

      Hello, my bro! I'm Kalmyk, living in Kazakhstan
      I'm also planning to move US by the next year

    • @kotsumotsuo688
      @kotsumotsuo688 3 роки тому +3

      @@Mongolnazi Hello my friend I'm Mongolian I'd like to ask you some questions😉

    • @Mongolnazi
      @Mongolnazi 3 роки тому +2

      @@kotsumotsuo688 sure, man! You may ask even in Mongolian:)

  • @katitobyt
    @katitobyt 4 роки тому +7

    Kazakhs are Turk that's it

    • @sakyd
      @sakyd 4 роки тому +2

      @Arslan Batyrhan good lie all Turks Come from now mongolia region but we not mongolic you Central Asia turks and we anatolia turks not mongolid.

    • @Buyanjagal.B
      @Buyanjagal.B Рік тому +3

      @Arslan Batyrhan Kazakhs have nothing in common with modern Mongols. the term Mongol was invented by Genghis Khan and it was a political term, not an ethnic one.

    • @Buyanjagal.B
      @Buyanjagal.B Рік тому +2

      @@sakyd Kazakhs have nothing in common with modern Mongols. the term Mongol was invented by Genghis Khan and it was a political term, not an ethnic one.

  • @askarraimkulov3002
    @askarraimkulov3002 2 роки тому

    According to sources, Abulhair started his movement to Mogulistan to punish Janibek and Kerey. However, that March was cold. He caught a cold and died.

  • @tarkora1742
    @tarkora1742 5 років тому +1

    good channel

  • @くちゅむ
    @くちゅむ 2 роки тому +2

    ケリーとジャニーベクそしてアブルハイルハンはチンギスハンの子孫同士だから遠い親戚なんですかね??

  • @recepozcel1k
    @recepozcel1k 5 років тому +4

    Very nice video, but use next time a kazakh dombra style of music as background music for example, not a medieval music from europe.

    • @TheJackmeisterMongolHistory
      @TheJackmeisterMongolHistory  5 років тому +2

      Thank you! For these earlier videos, I didn't have much access to very much music, so most of it was not very relevant. I put more effort into choosing the music now though.

  • @jotarokujo9164
    @jotarokujo9164 17 днів тому

    Mongols and Kazakhs are actually very close 😂😂😂 I, an Uzbek, do not even realise how similar they are until travelling abroad. We Uzbeks became permanent settlers thanks to Timur so we are separated a lot.

  • @andymuller289
    @andymuller289 8 місяців тому

    I am German+Polish+Slovakian half Vietnamese+ Northern Han Chinese i hear the Sarmatians and scythians mixed into the Balts and Goths and the modern Slavs and Northern Chinese have Xianbei blood of the Wei Dynasty

  • @Reader_curiosity
    @Reader_curiosity 6 років тому +20

    The Kazakh people are a mixture of Turk and Mongol tribes, mostly Turks.

    • @Dimash1975
      @Dimash1975 5 років тому +20

      Today's Mongols (mostly Khalha) are not those who were in the times of Chengiz Khan. According to Plano Carpini, the Mongols of Chengiz Khan were also called Tatars who were a confideration of Turkic tribes.

    • @arghunpride5704
      @arghunpride5704 5 років тому +20

      好奇讀者 Kazakh people consists fully from turkic tribes. Do not confuse todays modern Halkha mongols in Mongolia with nomad tribes of Genghis Khan period. “Mongol” - means confederation or union of huge number of tatar/turk tribes.

    • @kaybevang536
      @kaybevang536 5 років тому +1

      Dimash to distinguish the pure blooded Mongols and the Turkic peoples is that they hadn’t intermixed yet and still retain Asian features while the Turkic people even though some have full Asian features many have European and middle eastern features due to intermixing also the original Turkic people who stayed in Siberia have Asian features and the Turkic people that live in Mongolia actually look Mongolian also called Tuvans and practice Shamanism and Buddhism like their neighboring Mongolians (Buddhism was common practice during the Yuan Dynasty under Kublai Khan as he encouraged mongols to choose whatever religion they wish to convert )

    • @RemoveChink
      @RemoveChink 5 років тому

      @@Dimash1975 Chinggis khaan fought a war of extermination against the Tatars. They later fled to western Siberia.

    • @yearsmonths-ow6eu
      @yearsmonths-ow6eu 5 років тому +1

      @@Dimash1975 Tatars and Mongols were two different people dumbass. Matter of fact one of the first tribe Genghis Khan assimilated were Tatars.

  • @TheStatisfiedOne
    @TheStatisfiedOne 5 років тому

    So are the kumyks descent of kazakhs and mongolians? Since they speak a kipchak cuman language

    • @TheJackmeisterMongolHistory
      @TheJackmeisterMongolHistory  5 років тому

      I don't know the Kumyks very well, but from what I understand there is a lot of argument over their origins, and not a lot of agreement. I think they are generally thought to originate before the arrival of the Mongols, and I've heard people connect them to the Khazars and Qipchaqs. The region saw a lot of movement of Turkic peoples both north and south of the Caucasus during the Mongol invasion, their rule, and then the campaigns of Temur, which would have impacted every group in the region. So possibly they arrived to the region well before the Mongols ever did, but saw influx of other Turkic peoples with the arrival of the Mongols, bringing new influence both genetically and linguistically.Unfortunately I can't say much more than that, and I suspect we will never have a 'full explanation,' but instead a plethora of theories

    • @TheStatisfiedOne
      @TheStatisfiedOne 5 років тому

      The Jackmeister: Mongol History thanks. Do you also know if the today avars of Dagestan are related to the historical avars?

    • @TheStatisfiedOne
      @TheStatisfiedOne 4 роки тому +1

      Arslan Batyrhan I mean kumyks from dagestan not kalmyks. Kumyks are descent from kipchak and khazars

    • @buyantogtokhua18
      @buyantogtokhua18 3 роки тому +2

      @@TheJackmeisterMongolHistory Kalmyks are Torgut people from Oirat confederation. Under the leadership of Hoo Orloq Batyr (Хоо Өрлөг Баатар) they migrated to Russia because of grazing disputes with other Oirat warlords in the XVI-XVII century. He originally led 40000 families so it's about 160000-200000 people. Later they had trouble with empress Ekaterina and tried to move back to Mongolia but on the way back, they were attacked by Kyrgiz and Kazakh horse men and half of them perished or captured and converted to Islam. Their language is mutually understandable to modern Mongolian language but contains so much Russian, Turkic words these days. BTW, Kalmyk simply means "Those who separated". Those Kalmyks stayed in Russia participated in the Napoleonic wars and later fought in the WW2. However, Stalin persecuted them harshly and many thousands perished and their monasteries demolished. Now they are culturally almost extinct and almost fully Russified. A very sad ending for a once proud horsemen burst out of Western Mongolia.

    • @Nenet-rj9yr
      @Nenet-rj9yr 4 місяці тому

      ​@@TheJackmeisterMongolHistorykumuks came there with Hun orda

  • @chengezhussaini1464
    @chengezhussaini1464 3 роки тому +2

    Do one on the Khazars next time!

  • @zhouwu
    @zhouwu 6 років тому +1

    Why does the music remind me a lot of Mount and Blade?

  • @kypchakbalasy3802
    @kypchakbalasy3802 4 роки тому +8

    This guy literally tells Turkic history under the name Mongolian.

    • @xanshen9011
      @xanshen9011 4 роки тому +4

      Turkics and Mongols are brothers

    • @kypchakbalasy3802
      @kypchakbalasy3802 4 роки тому +3

      @@xanshen9011 distant cousins

    • @nikobby7465
      @nikobby7465 4 роки тому +4

      @@kypchakbalasy3802 lol who tf says this Turk history, get the hell outta here with ur freaking nationalism. That's all mongol's history

    • @papazataklaattiranimam
      @papazataklaattiranimam 4 роки тому +2

      @@xanshen9011
      Turks and Mongols have no racial connection

    • @papazataklaattiranimam
      @papazataklaattiranimam 4 роки тому +1

      @@xanshen9011 turkic and mongolics are enemies

  • @enesbeter9815
    @enesbeter9815 Рік тому +4

    Mongols and Kazakhs are the same people Kazakhstan is the only country in Central Asia where there is a descendant of Genghis khan

    • @pollarsurname5829
      @pollarsurname5829 Рік тому

      Fuck off Kazakh language is completely different from Mongolian language 😂 they are nothing similar

    • @sanzhar6399
      @sanzhar6399 Місяць тому

      ​@@pollarsurname5829go learn history

  • @malvoliomaximillian2001
    @malvoliomaximillian2001 3 роки тому

    02:13 "controled by the fragmented Jagathai Khanatte" so thats where the Warhammer 40,000 character got its name

  • @lizasagaidak2053
    @lizasagaidak2053 4 роки тому +1

    Помогите , учитель задал посмотреть это видео и найти неверные факты в нем, мб кто-то шарит

  • @Yuudaddy
    @Yuudaddy 2 роки тому +4

    In Polish, a Cossack is "Kozak" while a Kazakh is "Kazah"

    • @ganjubas667
      @ganjubas667 2 роки тому +9

      They not only plagiarised our name, but made the whole world spell it incorrectly replacing the authentic q/k at the end with kh/ch

    • @Prosto_Yura
      @Prosto_Yura Рік тому

      @@ganjubas667 Ну назву "козаки" ми взяли у кримських татар) А на казаХів вас переіменували комуняки,ми тут нідочого)

    • @Prosto_Yura
      @Prosto_Yura Рік тому

      @@itisprofile Алга Казакстан)

  • @papazataklaattiranimam
    @papazataklaattiranimam 3 роки тому +2

    Altaic theory has been died long before.

  • @samal2951
    @samal2951 4 роки тому

    The warriors of the West Turk Khaganate went to Caucasus in the 7th century. And beginning from that time, Arabic historians always wrote of Turkic-speaking seminomadic Kazakhs there. Like when in the 8th cent., an Arab who was among those who invaded Azerbaijan reported that he came to the lands of Kazakhs. Kazakh lands there were on the border of Azerbayjan, Armenia and Georgia. And places and regional centers called "Kazakh" still exist there.

    • @LogicaetRatio-r8z
      @LogicaetRatio-r8z Рік тому

      Well the Kipchaks were indeed Gokturks under a different name

  • @Shirkinbai
    @Shirkinbai 2 роки тому

    Read the primary historical source “Compendium of Chronicles”

  • @TarlanT
    @TarlanT 3 роки тому

    Well. Kazakh khanate stood for about 3 centuries. That’s not too shabby, right?

  • @arsen3379
    @arsen3379 4 роки тому +9

    Kazakhs never mixed with Mongols. The territory of Mongolia is the former territory of the Turkic Kaganate. Türkic (proto-Kazakh) tribes have lived there from time immemorial. In 1206, at the kurultai, 4 Turkic clans: Konyrats, Kiyats, Merkits and Naimans elected Chingiz Khan as a single Khagan. Genghis Khan himself comes from the Kiyat clan.
    Modern Khalkha Mongols are a Tungus-Manchu people who came to the territory of Mongolia only 4 centuries after Genghis Khan in the 17th century.

    • @plimpus4668
      @plimpus4668 4 роки тому +1

      You are confusing the khalkhas with the khamnigan. The Khalkhas are definitely mongols. Also, Kiyat (and maybe the merkits) are mongols tribes descendants of the shiwei. They have nothing to do with turks

    • @arsen3379
      @arsen3379 4 роки тому +3

      @@plimpus4668 in the 10th century, the settled ancestors of the modern Mongols came to the territory of eastern Turkestan (Mongolia) from the banks of the upper Amur, and were known as the Tungus, who were captured by the Manchus and mixed with them. They never had the title of khan, they called their rulers Khong Tayiji. In 1211, the united Turkic tribes of Konyrat, Naiman, Kiyat and others under the leadership of Genghis Khan conquered Manchuria and made them their subjects. The Konyrats, Kiyats, Naimans and other tribes that participated in the kurultai in 1206 were, without exception, Turkic (proto-Kazakh, Nogai, Karakalpak) and are now part of the middle Juz of Kazakhs.

    • @plimpus4668
      @plimpus4668 4 роки тому +4

      @@arsen3379 Modern Mongol are descendants of the 12th century mongols. They are literally the same people. Khalkha, Oirat and other subgroups are a way to divide the mongols in dialects and who ruled them. And, as I said, Kiyat are mongols descendants of the Menggu Shiwei, and are not turks. Khong Tayiji means "crown prince". Mongols only started to use it as their main title in the 17th century, because khan was devalued

    • @papazataklaattiranimam
      @papazataklaattiranimam 4 роки тому +3

      Merkits were Turks according to Marco Polo

    • @plimpus4668
      @plimpus4668 4 роки тому +2

      @@papazataklaattiranimam Im pretty sure he never said that. Even if he said, this doesnt prove nothing. If they were turks, they would had been pretty much mongolized by the 12th century, so most of their population would have been of mongol origin and their elite would be of turco-mongol stock (like what happened to the Golden Horde and Chagatai Khanate) Also, most specialists and sources treat them as mongols and their name cames from a mongol word

  • @nomad7843
    @nomad7843 3 роки тому

    Cool

  • @papazataklaattiranimam
    @papazataklaattiranimam 2 роки тому +5

    Kazakhs are Turkic people but some of their clans are Turkified Mongolic and Para-Mongolics that’s it :-)

  • @papazataklaattiranimam
    @papazataklaattiranimam 3 роки тому +3

    Gürbesü and the Naimans Gürbesü and the Naimans Having conquered his way steadily through the Alchi Tatars, Kereits, and Uhaz Merkits and acquired at least one wife each time, Temüjin turned to the next threat on the steppe, the Turkic Naimans under the leadership of Tayang Khan (a title from the Chinese taiwang , Great King; his name was Baibuqa 74 ).
    Broadbridge, A. (2018). Conquered Women. In Women and the Making of the Mongol Empire (Cambridge Studies in Islamic Civilization, pp. 73-100). Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. doi:10.1017/9781108347990.004
    Among the major players on the steppe at the time of Chinggis Khan’s rise were the large, wealthy, and sophisticated Turkic polities of the Naimans and the Kereits, the settled Uighurs in the Tarim river basin and the Taklamakan desert, and the Öng’üts near the border of the Jin Empire in Northern China.
    Broadbridge, A. (2018). Introduction. In Women and the Making of the Mongol Empire (Cambridge Studies in Islamic Civilization, pp. 1-8). Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. doi:10.1017/9781108347990.001
    Chaghan was the fourth - generation head of a leading Naiman Turkic clan that had settled in Shen - ch'iu district on the eastern border of Honan .
    Twitchett, D., & Loewe, M. (Eds.). (1986). The Cambridge History of China(The Cambridge History of China). Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. pp.20 doi:10.1017/CHOL9780521243278
    In 1199 Jenghiz combined forces with Toghrul - Khan to defeat the Naiman Turks ; but it was not long before he grew jealous of the power of the Keraits.
    Runciman, Steven (1987). A History of the Crusades. Cambridge University Press. ISBN 978-0-521-34770-9. pp.240
    Manichaeism may have disappeared, but Christianity made some headway among such Turkic tribes as the Kereit, Merkit and Öngüt. The fact that it was the Nestorian denomination rather than, say, the Roman Catholic or even Orthodox or Jacobite ones was no accident: there had been a Nestorian bishopric in Merv, and Nestorianism too could spread from there along the special avenue that was the Silk Road network.
    Soucek, S. (2000). The conquering Mongols. In A History of Inner Asia (pp. 103-116). Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. doi:10.1017/CBO9780511991523.009
    But when the Mongols (led by a Nestorian general from the Naiman Turks , and accompanied by forces from Cilician Armenia and Crusader Antioch) entered Damascus
    “NON-MUSLIM PARTICIPANTS IN ISLAMIC SOCIETY.” Islamic History: A Framework for Inquiry - Revised Edition, by R. STEPHEN HUMPHREYS, Princeton University Press, PRINCETON, NEW JERSEY, 1991, pp. 255-283.
    But the text about this King David does not describe the accomplishments of the Naiman Turks . Rather, it is the earliest surviving account of the rise of Genghis Khan, who actually conquered the Naiman Turks .
    Farmer, Sharon. “LOW COUNTRY ASCETICS AND ORIENTAL LUXURY: JACQUES DE VITRY, MARIE OF OIGNIES, AND THE TREASURES OF OIGNIES.” History in the Comic Mode: Medieval Communities and the Matter of Person, edited by Rachel Fulton and Bruce W. Holsinger, Columbia University Press, NEW YORK, 2007, pp. 205-222.
    Man, John (2013). Genghis Khan: Life, Death, and Resurrection. St. Martin's Publishing Group. pp. 19-20. ISBN 978-1-4668-6156-5.
    Rossabi, Morris (2012). The Mongols: A Very Short Introduction. Oxford University Press. p. 46. ISBN 978-0-19-993935-0.
    Mote, Frederick W. (2003). Imperial China 900-1800. Harvard University Press. p. 407. ISBN 978-0-674-01212-7.
    Ratchnevsky, Paul. "Genghis Khan: His Life and Legacy". 2000, pp.1-4.
    Roemer, Hans Robert; Scharlipp, Wolfgang-Ekkehard (2000). History of the Turkic Peoples in the Pre-Islamic Period. Klaus Schwarz Verlag. ISBN 3879972834.
    Czaplicka, Marie Antoinette (2001). The Turks of Central Asia in History and at the Present Day. Adamant Media Corporation. ISBN 978-1402163326.
    Li Tang (29 May 2009). "Medieval Sources on the Naiman Christians and their Prince Küchlüg Khan". In Dietmar W. Winkler; Li Tang (eds.). Hidden Treasures and Intercultural Encounters. 2. Auflage: Studies on East Syriac Christianity in China and Central Asia. Lit Verlag. ISBN 978-3643500458

    • @khantushig6460
      @khantushig6460 2 роки тому

      Damn ur so knowledgeable bro. Why u have to act so arrogant all the time?

  • @jonidjoharijonidjohari5385
    @jonidjoharijonidjohari5385 Рік тому +2

    Turkish and mongol is a same family

  • @kaotikevren1588
    @kaotikevren1588 5 років тому +9

    This is not mongol history.

  • @metehanzzincirci5983
    @metehanzzincirci5983 3 роки тому +3

    Kazaklar mogol degil Türk

  • @kamrankhan-lj1ng
    @kamrankhan-lj1ng 4 роки тому

    i always wondered about the language of kazaks (and kirgiz). how come they speak a kipchak language that is native to cuman and kipchak lands thousands of miles northwest of east kazakstan and kirgizia???

    • @amangeldysalimzhanov2641
      @amangeldysalimzhanov2641 4 роки тому +8

      Maybe because Kipchaks is the tribe that together with Argyns and others tribes, strarted to call their new union kazakhs

    • @spikelol9928
      @spikelol9928 4 роки тому +1

      better ask this question to fucking linguists that put kazakhs language in so called Kypchak group and more important to nogay subgroup lol. the language of a 14million people was put in group of named by 100k people in russia. what a shame to linguists. also kazakh and kirghiz languages are different. Kazakh alongside with Karakalpak language should be one group. Kirghiz language should be in altai group alongside with oirats in altay because they speak and pronounce sounds in the same way, plus they share some same tribes.
      and yet again the kazakhstan land is start line not only for oghuz tribes but also for Kipchaks which derived from Kimak kaghanat.
      concerning language issue, you probably might notice that kazakh and karakalpak languages are a little different in compare to languages of their neighbors. language of Karachai people in Kavkaz in terms of grammar and pronounciation has way more in common with kirghiz language rather than kazakh even though kazakhs are closer geographically.

    • @gulyaorazgali7037
      @gulyaorazgali7037 4 роки тому +2

      Because kazakhs are turkic people, Turkic kipchak.

    • @amandykkarymsak4632
      @amandykkarymsak4632 4 роки тому +1

      No bro Kipchaks came to eastern Europe from Kazakhstan territory. Persians called our steps Desht I Kipchak. You can see Kuman and Kipchak khans names can be easily understood in Kazakh Lang. (SHARUKAN-SARYKHAN, KOTYAN-KOTEN...) One of main tribes that build our nation is Kipchaks also my grandmother is from Khulan-Kipchak branch of Kipchak tribe

    • @kamrankhan-lj1ng
      @kamrankhan-lj1ng 4 роки тому

      @@spikelol9928 that was a good write up

  • @maxkhan5044
    @maxkhan5044 4 роки тому +1

    Tarihingdir ming asrlar ichra pinhon õzbegim.

  • @kaybevang536
    @kaybevang536 5 років тому +4

    Now I wonder why Uzbeks and Khazaks have high respect if the Mongols

    • @jihangirastra3851
      @jihangirastra3851 3 роки тому +5

      @Nadir Hikmet Kuleli Both Mongolians and Kazakhs are the descendants of Chinggis Khan and the Mongol empire, as stated in the video. Many Mongolic words are present in Kazakh and there are about 150,000 Kazakhs living in Mongolia today.

    • @jihangirastra3851
      @jihangirastra3851 3 роки тому +6

      @Nadir Hikmet Kuleli All the Kazakh khans were a part of the house of Borjigin and a direct descendant of Chinggis Khaan (altan urug). Our Blood brothers.

    • @jihangirastra3851
      @jihangirastra3851 3 роки тому +3

      @Nadir Hikmet Kuleli Im not surprised. Everyone has differing opinions and some are motived by political agendas. Whatever the case, he was the founder of the Mongol identity and language and the patriarch of most steppe lineages (kazakhs, Mongols, Nogai, Kalmyk, tatar, buryat and many many more.)

    • @kaybevang536
      @kaybevang536 3 роки тому +1

      @@jihangirastra3851 I mean many nomadic groups today still claim the Chingis Khan descent especially the Turkic Mughal Empire I hope he does a video on that though it’s questionable since they could be more of Timurs descendants

    • @jihangirastra3851
      @jihangirastra3851 3 роки тому +4

      @@kaybevang536 Yes. That’s because they are Mongols. Mughal is simply the word “Mongols” in a Persian accent. The Mughals spoke Mongolian, Chagatai and Persain throughout their existence.
      We are the conquerers of the world, the rulers of the steppe; the Chingissid-Mongols after all.

  • @Χριστόςανέστη-δ1π
    @Χριστόςανέστη-δ1π 3 роки тому

    Uzbek name comes from the legendary Oghuz Beg.

  • @auezovovezov4780
    @auezovovezov4780 5 років тому +6

    Baraq obama khan

  • @くちゅむ
    @くちゅむ 2 роки тому

    カザフスタンにとってウズベキスタンは建国時は敵同士ってことになりますよね?

    • @khantushig6460
      @khantushig6460 2 роки тому

      知らんっす

    • @freakguyy_
      @freakguyy_ 2 роки тому +1

      Казахстан захватил почти все земли бывшей золотой орды, и был державой Евразии

    • @Orgil.
      @Orgil. Рік тому +1

      @@freakguyy_ lmao no.kazakhs were not power of eurasia.Dzungar Mongols(Oirat Mongols) were power of Eurasia

    • @yeldos
      @yeldos Рік тому

      no

    • @user-wq7oo1uy9d
      @user-wq7oo1uy9d 7 місяців тому

      ​@@Orgil.East power Oirats but in 1510-1520 Eurasia it's Kazakh Khanate

  • @Whiz.kz.04
    @Whiz.kz.04 2 місяці тому +1

    Genghis khan 🇰🇿

  • @kalpeshpatel-xi1gg
    @kalpeshpatel-xi1gg 11 місяців тому

    Central asia, sythians, sarmartians, turks, mongols, alans, awars, pechnigs, qipchaks, cumans, crimeans, karakhanids, Qagars, qagans, khanate, qahan, all 1:33 khans, khajars , khajarites, karakitans, north-west chinese--all from same breed but with different names!!!

  • @papazataklaattiranimam
    @papazataklaattiranimam 3 роки тому +3

    Kazakhstan had their own Turkic tribes long before the world Mongol or Mongolic was ever invented

  • @tuvshinkhantaishir3910
    @tuvshinkhantaishir3910 4 роки тому +5

    Kazakhs were formed by direct descendants of Ghengis Khan (ruling class) and population is mostly Turkic 90% and little Turco-Mongol 10%. So that small Turco-Mongol population can claim that they are Mongols. The rest of Kazakhs have nothing to do with Mongols. So stop making things more complicated. Modern Kazakhstan is Turkic nation with Turkic people.

    • @papazataklaattiranimam
      @papazataklaattiranimam 4 роки тому +4

      Tuvshin Khantaishir %30-35 mongolic

    • @papazataklaattiranimam
      @papazataklaattiranimam 4 роки тому +2

      Jochi Khan was step son of Genghis Khan btw

    • @samal2951
      @samal2951 4 роки тому +1

      How can such a small nation as Khalkhas even claim being Genghis khan's nation? How could the mighty Turks who had built up so many empires come to surrender to a small group of aliens speaking a foreign language? Not a word of your language has spread and is known here in Kazakhstan and over the territories conquered by Genghis khan and ruled by Genghisids. His first son Juchi is burried in Central Kazakhstan. Khalkhas never had Khans. Even the names of those Mongols were Turkic -- common Kazakh names. "Temirshyn" is common "Shyntemir" we have today. In Kazakh, the adjective came after the noun in some parts, earlier. We, Kazakhs, know for sure that Genghis Khans's history has been given to Khalkhas by Jesuits, as well as other parts of our history have been given by them to other peoples.

    • @baconsans431
      @baconsans431 3 роки тому +1

      @@samal2951
      Khalkha is a political confederation of 13 mongolic clans, created by Dayan khan, descendant of Chinggis khaan by Khubilai line (chinggis had 4 official sons) and Khalkha is not an ethnicity or nation. Turks are originally the same Slab grave culture people of Bronze age as Mongols. Only later the turks admixed with Iranian and other West Asian tribes. Please read more about the history and the genetic science. And don,t be jealous that you are not direct descendant of mighty Mongols.

    • @xlarge7370
      @xlarge7370 3 роки тому +1

      @@baconsans431 look how many Turkic states are there? But Mongolia is only one

  • @Maral31
    @Maral31 Рік тому

    I heard that real Kazakhs are Ukrainian, Latvia, Hungery people, is it right?

  • @middleeastrenwarriormen1017
    @middleeastrenwarriormen1017 2 роки тому +5

    Kazakh descendant mixed Turkic-Mongol

    • @Buyanjagal.B
      @Buyanjagal.B Рік тому

      Kazakhs have nothing in common with modern Mongols!!!

    • @barguttobed
      @barguttobed Рік тому +2

      @@Buyanjagal.B Yes you descends from Chinese people🇨🇳

    • @J4FMGL
      @J4FMGL Рік тому

      @@Buyanjagal.B why are you using mongolian name instead of kazakh?

  • @hamzaalmdghri8741
    @hamzaalmdghri8741 4 роки тому +7

    Most of the Kazakhs were Mongols before Genghis Khan was born during the reigns of xiongnu and xianbi and Rouran and huns and kara ( Kitat ,)or kithans and Mongol Khamag empire

    • @papazataklaattiranimam
      @papazataklaattiranimam 4 роки тому +4

      Xiongnu and Huns are Oghur Turkic while Khitans are Proto-Mongolic

    • @baconsans431
      @baconsans431 3 роки тому +1

      @@papazataklaattiranimam In the beginning, the proto Turkic and proto Mongolic people were the same descendants of Slab Grave culture people of Bronze Age during the Xiongnu period. Later the proto Turkic people mixed with iranian BMAC culture people and the modern turkic ethnicity formed. So technically, the modern turks are not really Xiongnu.

    • @papazataklaattiranimam
      @papazataklaattiranimam 3 роки тому +2

      @@baconsans431 There is no such thing as iranian BMAC 🤣🤣 iran???

    • @papazataklaattiranimam
      @papazataklaattiranimam 3 роки тому +3

      @@baconsans431 nope,Turkic and Mongolic has nothing to do with each other by ancestry

    • @papazataklaattiranimam
      @papazataklaattiranimam 3 роки тому +2

      Khitans are not even fully Mongolic🤣🤣
      The Khitans were a semi-nomadic Turko- Mongolian people that had established the. Liao dynasty, been displaced
      eprints.lse.ac.uk/66009/1/__lse.ac.uk_storage_LIBRARY_Secondary_libfile_shared_repository_Content_Neumann,%20I_Remnants%20of%20the%20Mongol%20imperial%20tradition_Neumann_Remnants_of_the_Mongol.pdf (Cambridge University Press)
      citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.560.2362&rep=rep1&type=pdf
      books.google.com.tr/books?id=76QyCgAAQBAJ&pg=PA101&lpg=PA101&dq=&source=bl&ots=N6_RV_OH6B&sig=ACfU3U2os-Hrz9TwsJx3beoL9L4XSGHzyQ&hl=tr&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiGqM-h4-btAhUKzqQKHekQAYgQ6AEwBnoECBkQAQ#v=onepage&q&f=false (Cambridge University Press)
      Tribus turco-mongoles nomades, originaires du bassin du Liao He, établies en Chine du Nord depuis le ive s.
      www.larousse.fr/encyclopedie/divers/Kitan/127592
      membre d'un peuple turco-mongol nomade, établi en Chine du Nord depuis le IVe siècle
      relatif à un peuple turco-mongol nomade, établi en Chine du Nord depuis le IVe siècle
      www.universalis.fr/dictionnaire/khitan/
      and the Khitans (a Turco-Mongolian people from Manchuria)
      www.britannica.com/place/Beijing/History
      www.britannica.com/place/Youzhou
      Born into a noble family of the Qara Khitai, a Turco-Mongol people originally from Northern China
      www.oxfordreference.com/search?q=Qara-Khitai&searchBtn=Search&isQuickSearch=true
      oxfordislamicstudies.com/article/opr/t355/e0031
      www.academia.edu/6703236/Powerful_Women_in_the_Ilkhanate
      The Mongols were welcomed not only by the Muslims of the province but by the Turco-Mongol Khitans
      eprints.soas.ac.uk/13395/3/Mongols_in_Iran.pdf (Oxford University Press)
      books.google.com.tr/books?id=KjQ_AwAAQBAJ&pg=PT317&lpg=PT317&dq=bl&ots=b7dwy_nqNA&sig=ACfU3U1thYC5-HH20qT31j_MoIzDgyZqRQ&hl=tr&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi-7sCr4ubtAhUEH-wKHTIgDv0Q6AEwAHoECAEQAQ#v=onepage&q&f=false (Oxford University Press)
      The Qara Khitai are often referred to as " the infidel Turks ” ( kāfir al - Turk , al - Atrāk al - kuffār ) , or simply as Turks .
      books.google.com.tr/books?id=B934LaVBaz8C&pg=PA143&dq=CAMBRIDGEUNIVERSITYPRESS&hl=tr&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiO2cXy-9XtAhUcBhAIHfHwBnMQ6AEwAHoECAMQAg#v=onepage&q=Atrak&f=false (Cambridge University Press)
      www.academia.edu/43490170/The_Qara_Khitai
      The Khitans were a nomadic “Turko-Mongol” people.
      libraetd.lib.virginia.edu/downloads/h415pb10b?filename=1_Huang_Chih-Jung_2019_SJD.pdf
      The Turko-Mongol Khitan (Qidan) arose at the end of the Tang
      books.google.com.tr/books?id=a2_GQpLPPl8C&pg=PA238&dq=&hl=tr&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjrs53v5-btAhWmmIsKHQeqDqgQ6AEwAXoECAYQAg#v=onepage&q&f=false (Columbia University Press)
      Their fall from power came at the hands of the Qarakhitai , a Buddhist Turko - Mongol nomadic confederation
      books.google.com.tr/books?hl=tr&id=Q-RtAAAAMAAJ&dq=INDIANAUNIVERSITYPRESS&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=Qarakhitai
      (Indiana University Press)
      Whether it is from Song China or from the land of the Turkic Khitans ruled by the Liao dynasty
      books.google.com.tr/books?hl=tr&id=wgonAQAAIAAJ&dq=WAYNESTATEUNOVERSITYPRESS&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=+khitans
      Khwarizm Shah's struggle with the Ghuzz and the Qara - Khitai Turks provided an opportunity to the rulers of a small principality - Ghur - to extend their power .
      books.google.com.tr/books?id=yrrXAAAAMAAJ&q=OXFORDUNIVERSITYPRESS&dq=khitai&hl=tr&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjasMKc-ObtAhVkx4sKHdINCnQ4FBDoATABegQICRAC
      The ethnical and linguistic affiliation of the Khitans is still not clear.
      www.chinaknowledge.de/History/Song/khitans.html
      Traditional Chinese scholars did not much care about such matters and just called them offsprings of the Xianbei 鮮卑, a proto-Türkic federation that had ruled the northern steppe in the 3rd and 4th centuries.
      www.chinaknowledge.de/History/Song/khitans.html

  • @GreaterAfghanistanMovement
    @GreaterAfghanistanMovement Місяць тому

    So they are Mongols. I knew it all along.

  • @Shirkinbai
    @Shirkinbai 2 роки тому +6

    1. Моңғол деген ел ешқашан болмаған, Шыңғысxан Моғол болған, тариxи моғол жұрты ол Моғолыстан, түркі тілінде сөйлеген.
    2. Бүгінгі моңғол сымақтың өз атауы Халһа, қалмақ-жоңғар, бурят.
    3. Тариxты бұрмалау Ресей империясының қазаққа қарсы жасалған опасыз саясаты. Қазақты аштықпенде әдейі қырды.
    4. Тариxпен қызыққан кісі болса, таза сол заман тариxшыларын оқысын, орыстың өтірігін емес.
    5. Рашид-ад-дин, Ақсақ темір, РуБрук, Карпини оқыңыздар, міне нағыз тариx

    • @tyquake513
      @tyquake513 2 роки тому +2

      Mongol were here since xianbei. Kazakhs didn't even have a independent history until golden hordes collapse.Stfu and tell your people that y'all don't have history unlike mongolia

    • @Mahakhala
      @Mahakhala 2 роки тому +1

      Really you can only stfu with your mystification

    • @Orgil.
      @Orgil. Рік тому

      @Эркин Мәмбэтҗан 🇰🇿 Қыйат 卐 Secret history of the Mongols It was written for the Mongol royal family some time after the 1227 death of Chinggis Khaan. The author is anonymous and probably originally wrote in the Mongolian script, but the surviving texts all derive from transcriptions or translations into Chinese characters

  • @Israeli_Prince
    @Israeli_Prince 3 роки тому +1

    These are your biblical Israelites

  • @musawiniaz4984
    @musawiniaz4984 5 років тому +3

    You don’t know about the History Probably.the founder of turcic the Modern days call south Siberia and mongul peoples .all Central Asia belong to Turcic we call mugolistan Central Asia much Different to all Asia skins and eyes we have dark brown light brown and green Include negative Americans belong to south Siberia and mongulia

    • @aikawo9712
      @aikawo9712 5 років тому

      musawi niaz u are generalizing too roughly.

    • @sakyd
      @sakyd 4 роки тому

      @Bayek Of Siwa what time 1000 year before?

  • @Dabihos
    @Dabihos 2 роки тому

    Берілген деректер саяздау. Қытай, Ресей, Үндістан, Таяу Шығыс - бәрі Орда уысынан қалай шығып кеткенін ашпай кетті.

    • @yeldos
      @yeldos Рік тому

      қысқа видео ғана, негізінен батыс тарихшылар Қазақ хандығына көп назар аудармайды, бұл видеоның болғаны үлкен жетістік)

  • @azariahchhangte6872
    @azariahchhangte6872 5 років тому

    Trying to give a European twist for Asians like me😂😂

  • @otyalkuni
    @otyalkuni Рік тому

    Kazakhs only have 500 years history .?!

    • @orton4357
      @orton4357 Рік тому +5

      as confederation - yes, as separate tribes - no.

    • @freakguyy_
      @freakguyy_ Рік тому +1

      900years history, kuman kipchak confederation

  • @moreysmith5264
    @moreysmith5264 3 роки тому +1

    Kazakhstan & Uzbekistan !!

  • @Shirkinbai
    @Shirkinbai 2 роки тому

    You Khalka doesn't have Genghis Khan tribes and you know about it, but you keep lying

    • @Orgil.
      @Orgil. Рік тому +4

      The two original major Khalkha groups were ruled by the direct male line descendants of Dayan Khan. The Baarin, Khongirad, Jaruud, Bayaud and the O'zeed (Ujeed) became Dayan Khan's fifth son Achibolod's subjects, thus formed the Southern Five Halhs. Seven northern Khalkha otogs: 1) Jalairs, Olkhonud; 2) Besut, Iljigin; 3) Gorlos, Keregut; 4) Khuree, Khoroo, Tsookhor; 5) Khukhuid, Khatagin; 6) Tanghut, Sartuul; 7) Uriankhai became Dayan Khan's youngest (could be third) son Geresenje's subjects. Khotogoids are close in culture and language to the Khalkha Mongols.
      There were also numerous direct descendants of Genghis Khan who had formed the ruling class of the Khalkha Mongols prior to the 20th century.

    • @Orgil.
      @Orgil. Рік тому +3

      Under Dayan Khan, the Khalkha were organized as one of three tümen of the Left Wing. Dayan Khan installed the fifth son Alchu Bolad and the eleventh son Geresenje on the Khalkha. The former became the founder of the Five Halh of Southern Mongolia and the latter became the founder of the Seven Halh of the Northern Mongolia. They were called Inner Khalkha and Outer Khalkha respectively, by the Manchus.
      Mongolian chronicles called Geresenje as "Khong Tayiji of the Jalayir", which indicates that the core part of the Khalkha were descendants of the Jalayir tribe. By extension, some scholars consider that the Halh had a close connection with the Five Ulus of the Left Wing of the former Yuan dynasty, which was led by the five powerful tribes of Jalayir, Onggirat, Ikires, Uruud and Mangghud.

    • @Orgil.
      @Orgil. Рік тому +3

      @Эркин Мәмбэтҗан 🇰🇿 Қыйат 卐 prove it 😂

    • @barguttobed
      @barguttobed Рік тому +2

      @@Orgil. Brother just don’t waste your energy to those stupid Borats, let them in their lie..

  • @samal2951
    @samal2951 4 роки тому +2

    The etnonym "Kazakh" hasn't appeared after those Mongols (who were Turks, by the way). We have had this name from a very long time ago.

    • @batyrtolkynbayev2303
      @batyrtolkynbayev2303 4 роки тому

      I am kazakh, and I thought that we (descendants of Genghiz Khan, and yes, mongols of that time were literally turkic tribes, nowadays mongols are mix of tibetan, manchurian tribes) broke away from Uzbek khanate because their khan was a dictator and we didn't like him, and we migrated to Zheti-Su rivers. And then we called ourselves KAZAKHS, because this word means LIBERTY or LIBERAL.

    • @anaorhp4200
      @anaorhp4200 4 роки тому +6

      @@batyrtolkynbayev2303 Lol, you guys didn't even know who is Genghis Khan before 1990. Stop saying that you guys are descendants of Mongols.

    • @samal2951
      @samal2951 4 роки тому +1

      @@anaorhp4200 You know that it's you who didn't know who Chingis khan was. We've always had the mountain Shyngghys-tau near Semey in the eastern Kazakhstan. And Shyngghys is an ordinary name with us.

    • @anaorhp4200
      @anaorhp4200 4 роки тому +3

      @@samal2951 Chingis is not even name it’s a title. Some Kazakh people are really desperate ...

    • @samal2951
      @samal2951 4 роки тому +1

      @@batyrtolkynbayev2303 I don't know how it was exactly. But the warriors of the people who went to Caucasus from modern Kazakhstan in the 7th century were called "Kazakhs". Today the dialect of the Azerbaijans living in the Kazakh region near Georgia and Armenia is more like the Kazakh language. Azerbaijans say "halyklarYK", and those living in Kazakh region say "halyklarMYZ" like we do. And they say that their preferences in cuisine and music are closer to those of us, Kazakhs. (If you know Russian or Kazakh you may watch the video "Чем похожи жители одного из районов Азербайджана на казахов" and read the comments below it. That video must be in Kazakh, too, but I don't know its name.) And in the 7th century the Tang chronicles, too, call us HASA. And in the 10th century Ferdousi spoke of "Kazakh warrior people on horses using lances" and of "Kazakh khans". And there are a lot of other such evidences. Like a 10th-century Persian manuscript saying "such Kazakh tribes like Kangly and Kipchaks..." etc.

  • @era6519
    @era6519 3 роки тому +3

    Ancient turkic were asian race , and capital citi was in Mongolia , btw modern mongols were not nomadic. they was tungus that rides dog

    • @nobodyishere1537
      @nobodyishere1537 3 роки тому +5

      tf is wrong with you if you visit mongolia and inner mongolia still nomadic stop being smart dude

    • @era6519
      @era6519 3 роки тому

      @@nobodyishere1537 you were sedentary untill 10th centrury 0)0))
      idk u speak russian, but listen what hes sayng ua-cam.com/video/p6xOxu7dW5M/v-deo.html

    • @era6519
      @era6519 3 роки тому

      @@nobodyishere1537 even name Mongolia was liped up from Mogolistan, it was country near Kazakstan and Kyrgyzstan. Before you was called just "Ulus of someone" or something.
      👁️👃👁️

    • @Buyanjagal.B
      @Buyanjagal.B Рік тому +1

      @@nobodyishere1537 Kazakhs have nothing in common with modern Mongols. the term Mongol was invented by Genghis Khan and it was a political term, not an ethnic one.

  • @lockykhan4049
    @lockykhan4049 3 роки тому

    why they look like oriental

  • @daawkebay
    @daawkebay Рік тому +1

    🇰🇿🇰🇿🇰🇿

  • @Neverdyingpride
    @Neverdyingpride 2 роки тому +2

    in mongolia we call kazakhs hasag meaning the banned or minused out