And this is the winning correct answer right here. They are just looking for some easy low hanging heads to put on a pike. Nothing you can say to them will help you. There is a talk you can find on UA-cam called "Don't Talk to the Police." Although it is specific to US law, all of the problems with interviews and officers still apply to you. Get a lawyer. I would assume they are looking to put you on a list for a 'hate crime.'
The purpose of the proposed meeting is to elicit isolated sentences and phrases that can be used to prove the elenent of "intent" (in law known as "mens rea" or "guilty mind". Under the British law, they are not allowed to try to elicit self-incrminating evidence without a caution and giving you the right to counsel. The interaction you ghad with these pink clad clowns is a national embarassment. I understand the temptation to go to the proposed meeting and either try to educate them or laugh at their efforts. It is not a good idea! At best, that would be like an alcohool rub on a wooden peg. These two are well beyond redemption. At worst, they irritate you enough to say something they could use against you. If you decide to go insist on recording the entire conversation, stay calm and focused and do not allow the conversation anywhere near your reasoning for saying what you think.
This is the reason we left and came America, boot lickers like those two prissy coppers. Wake up soon you will be put into reeducation camps to get your mind right. Reasonable people can talk and say what they believe as long as it's not threatening or violent and it should be fine.
Declining is good. The lawsuit, though, will cost you a bunch and get you nowhere. What you need to do is keep filming this kind of stuff, spread this as much as you can, and wake the normies up.
Too much work involved, they much rather this be the focus of their entire days "Work". It's all the result of various people who just can't be bothered to justify their remuneration. From Politicians to judges all the way down to "PC Plod". All just too lazy to bother. They've better and easier things to do. Picking on non violent, non criminals, about their personal opinions is easy, solving and tackling crime is Hard. Solving problems is Hard, asking questions is easy. We all see how this works . . .
At this point I'm willing to believe that the police are involved and guilty of the abuse of those girls. Otherwise, they would have been deep into investigations.
Why would they talk to grooming gangs other than to encourage them? We are under attack from our own governments using a multitude of tools. Economic and Psychological Warfare are part of this.
But how , smuggle arms organize and unite , now pushed to the edge and betrayed by our own countries ! Those unable to rise to the fight will be controlled and lead to slaughter like the sheep they have become ! PATRIOTS RISE 🇺🇸🇸🇪🇬🇷🇬🇧
@Dennis Durkop I'm armed and do are a lot of english people who only follow english law and not british law we have a right to bear armes under the bill of rights 1668 the british are the enemy
@Peter kelly That's right. The police have declared that they will no longer investigate burglary. But the have the resourses for this kind of nonesense, What a discusting joke.
No way should he go to that voluntary interview, and nor should he say anything more at all to those guys without getting a lawyer first. The so-called "voluntary interview at the station" is a trap to get him into a situation where they'll hope to isolate him, barrack him, intimidate him, manipulate him and eventually entrap him into a false confession of guilt in a phoney crime they've made up.
It's better to go. They will harass you (keep calling, phoning etc.) if you dont and they even may arrest you in the street and force you to have it. If you think you might be able to complain about harrasment and have someone in the police help you, think again. Just go and say nothing. No comment to everything.
@@Ironbuket You're probably right. The question then is, how can this despotic commie tyranny be demolished, or do we just have to wait until it collapses under the weight of its contradictions? It seems certain that the waiting game cannot work. Under that strategy, by the time the collapse happens, Britain, and the entire West, w will have been taken over by outsiders, and its history will be nothing but a curious footnote in the history of an entirely different civilization (or, quite likely, barbarism).
They want him to go to the cop shop so that he can't use his camera. If they had anything on the guy they would have took him in there and then, they just didn't want to incriminate themselves on video. I would have blasted them with hate speech ending with go f yourselves
@@hubster4477 Sorry you are mistaken. It depends on the type of 'crime'. Many 'crimes' dont give officers the power to enter your home and arrest you, but do give them the power to arrest you if you are in a public space. Police will sometimes trick people into going in to a public space where they can then arrest them. They will sometimes use an invite to an interview to do this. Look it up.
Well you know in Europe and Canada it's Illegal to commit hate speech. So the officers are just sent there by someone calling them telling them this person is committing hate speech. In these countries they do not have a First Amendment like America. Free speech is not allowed in most country. Judging by your confusion you lived in America for along time and don't understand the state of freedom around the world. If you are living in America I will like to remind you this interaction can happen if you vote Democrat. They are wanting to repeal the first amendment so they can put law into action like this. The Democrats in Cali already repeal Civil Acts rights making it legal for people and business to discriminate against race.
Just look at the body language of the other officer......he is standing back (indicating that he wants to get the hell away) and arms folded (indicating defensiveness and feeling uncomfortable). What we should ask is, Who was the Chief or Commissioner who sent them there; instead of attending a burglary or sex grooming case. Well done for filming. ❤
Mytwopennorth ..no actually there is some solid science behind it. In situational stress testing, chimps and human subjects put under stress....try to make themselves look as small and submissive as possible, exactly by crouching , folding arms in etc. This is associated with high productions of cortisol (stress hormone). The other side of this is when people are feeling confident and dominant they tend to make themselves as large as possible....picture Usain Bolt crossing the finish line...Arms outstretched. This is associated with a surge of testosterone. Good research on this by Dr. Amy Cuddy...who also may still hold the record of the most number of views for a Ted talk right here on UA-cam.
Well you know in Europe and Canada it's Illegal to commit hate speech. So the officers are just sent there by someone calling them telling them this person is committing hate speech. In these countries they do not have a First Amendment like America. Free speech is not allowed in most country. Judging by your confusion you lived in America for along time and don't understand the state of freedom around the world. If you are living in America I will like to remind you this interaction can happen if you vote Democrat. They are wanting to repeal the first amendment so they can put law into action like this. The Democrats in Cali already repeal Civil Acts rights making it legal for people and business to discriminate against race.
That is exactly what they want you to do. Never do an interview with police without your lawyer. They are professional con men. They will try to trick you to say something you should not under their environment. This is a new win situation. Better to keep your mouth shut. Look what happen to General Flynn in the US. It cost him his reputation, house, job and can't make a living.
Thanks! Yes it was me in the video. I said I didn’t need a lawyer because I’ve studied law and have had over a dozen police interviews in my life, so I was confident that a co-operative one would only benefit my defence of any alleged crimes. After attending the interview I’m quite confident I won’t be charged but if I am, be ready for part 2 😂.
What Norbert said is correct, but you dont need a lawyer. Just go to the interview and say 'no comment' to everything. Dont fall for the attitude that they are your friend and start chatting, all they want you to do is say something that can be used as evidence to charge you. Don't even admit that you made the posts even when they show you evidence that could prove that, dont say anything - not one word apart from 'no comment'. If they already had evidence you would be getting arrested not being asked for an interview.
Edward Wyatt, if you want me to say some stuff online for these tyrants to see I would be more then willing to give them some thoughts that are way out of there jurisdiction!!!
@ Although much of what you said was true, it also paints a rather one sided picture. It is quite possible for someone to take offence to a comment you make and refer it to the police. As the police have large quoters to fill for this waste of time, they will investigate it even when 9 out of 10 people would think there is nothing to investigate. If they manage to charge you with something, maybe you are stupid enough to say something and they can use that rather than what you posted. They will get a big gold star from their superior. Dont assume that cops will only call on you if you have already done something serious and they already have evidence of it. It is very easy to make up a reason for being offended and trigger the police response. For example if someone had a learning difficulty, they might report your idiot comment as an offensive attack on people with disabilities. Do you get the gist now? The UK is full of snowflakes that cant wait to put in their next complaint to the police and the police are happily serving these people. It's only going to get worse unfortunatly as the ranks of the police fill up with more and more snowflakes themselves.
Disgusting waste of taxpayers money. Honestly, you try to stay onside with the police but then you see this. And Sunday, so that's their overtime sorted. Edit: in fact the more I think about this the more I am convinced that it's just about generating overtime for two policemen.
it's much more sinister than that. if you're a light skinned caucasian human that doesn't agree with the authoritarian political movement known as "multicultural diversity" then you are guilty of wrong think and they smear you as a hateful supremacist. they deem you as guilty for anything and everything when they desire you to be guilty.
Peter Howe I’m a commoner, I type how I talk. I just put like on the end of random sentences for seemingly no logical reason. I do it so people like yourself can feel superior to me just because they grew up in a place where everyone talks like a 1970’s news presenter. How is it up there on your moral high ground....I imagine your farts smell like unicorn flowers.
@@seshelbow336 What's your problem buddy? Why the attitude? Heck, if you can't speak proper English, someone may ask you what in heck do you mean because it makes no sense. You don't have to come on here and attack this guy. All he said was "Like what" because any normal sentence would have ended with the word "myself". When you add the word "like", something is expected to come after that. Now go back to grammar school and learn how to speak.
Considering the police arrived at your door step, it should warrant that they identity clearly who the claim was from. You have every right to know who your accuser is and also understand that they are also being interviewed. Making a claim against one person without any repercussions is a pretty dangerous precedent to be setting.
That's what I think Shirley - if, by working hard, obeying the law, paying our taxes, we then arrive at this sad state, what was the point? I think there's some similar sentiment expressed in the brilliant film "No Country for Old Men". 😳
I actually called the police when the terraced house next to mine got broken into and burgled. I could hear the burglars inside the house all night. The police never showed up. Too busy apparently. Now we know why they're busy.
@@chesshooligan1282 The police are not here to uphold the law as they would like you to think, the police are a domestic form of guards to protect the monarchy and as long as the queen is safe etc then they could not careless about the rights and safety of the public.
@Ian Boynton I did not know that Ian thanks for the insight. The layer is good for one thing thou if you find the going tough you may want someone there just to reassure you so kinda depends on your personality as well.
This has happened several times with other people accused of 'thought crimes' on Facebook.. The police stated to a person in his garden in one video 'We want you to come down for a chat so we can check your thinking' Been going on for a couple of years now..
Do NOT go to the police station. Do NOT give them any details. Do NOT help them in anyway. They do not have you best interest at heart, they simply want to tick boxes rather than achieve any sort of justice. If he did go, what happened?
so the police do not go after real crime or murderer, and taxpayers paying for this kind of police, i support the police where i live, not this kind of police ,i am for right and freedom
I thing you're wrong. This is two policemen trawling facebook while "on shift" to generate a bit of overtime on Sunday - the day proposed by the policeman for the interview. And if they can issue a "caution" at the end of it then it's all justified and they can start trawling for next Sunday's overtime. Their overtime working should be reviewed.
Louise Katt the police have been told to only target whites after the blm riots they don’t want to upset the minorities....we have to be very careful ☹️
I was thinking of that movie when the two priests come to a mans house, threaten him, and then the entire family kills the priests and feed them to the pigs. I got the same feeling here. Oh and it also reminds me when the SS visit houses in Nazi Germany. Odd.
When I had my car stolen I never saw a copper, or my car again. When I had a guy on my roof, never saw a copper. Years later, I was assaulted (by a guy on drugs) as I walked home from work. When I phoned the cops they said "If you don't know his name we can't help you !" But, suddenly, here they are because of something on Facebook ? WTF !
If you're not being arrested on suspicion of a crime you can ask the 🐷 to leave your property immediately. If it's a voluntary interview you decline to attend.
Large amounts of police budgets in the UK have been diverted to this type of 'crime'. They have no choice. The officers themselves could be as unhappy about it as us.
@@kasasensei correct, you always have a choice. You have the choice to stop paying your taxes and the choice to stop obeying laws. It may not work out so great for you however.
@@Ironbuket Already doing this and doing great. Beside, you're being out of scope in the topic. Here, we are talking about cops not doing their duties, not enforcing the law and doing moral policing instead of fighting real society issues and crimes.
@@stevienellor9120 the holy bible is a lesson of love btw the following is a vision by a pope in 1884: The guttural voice, the voice of Satan in his pride, boasted to Our Lord: "I can destroy your Church." The gentle voice of Our Lord:"You can? Then go ahead and do so." Satan:"To do so, I need more time and more power." Our Lord:"How much time? How much power? Satan:"75 to 100 years, and a greater power over those who will give themselves over to my service." Our Lord:"You have the time, you will have the power. Do with them what you will."
@Dennis Durkop I lived in Argentina only a couple years after people were "disappeared" there. I know people whose family members had "visits" (like this - only they took them away, never to be seen from again). One woman I met and spoke with told me how she was arrested, taken by the police, stripped naked, tied to a metal bedframe, and tortured. They would jolt her with electricity, and put out their cigarette butts on her body. (I saw those - the scares remained.) She suffered memory loss as a result of the electric shocks. No, we don't want that to happen ANYWHERE, ever again! (The outer walls of the convent in the suburb of Buenos Aires still has the marks where the bullets struck, when they lined people up to executed by firing squads. I was there in 1985 - that happened a couple years before, about 1981- 1983.)
"If you don’t want a man unhappy politically, don’t give him two sides to a question to worry him; give him one. Better yet, give him none." -Fahrenheit 451.The"fireman" have arrived.
I hope he didn't go for the interview. Never talk when you don't have to. Even if innocent your words can be altered to mean anything.I hear the virtual slavery of illegals has been not a priority for the police because they are too busy doing things like this, catching words instead of criminals.
I've been charged with malicious communication for comments made regarding mental health services. I've been traumatised by services - police, mental health. All of them are playing one big game. They prey on the vulnerable. Destroyed my life. They spent 2 months deciding whether to pursue it, then turned up and arrested me (after I'd phoned countless times to enquire what was going on, from pure anxiety knowing they were 'investigating' the alleged incident, offering to come in and explain). I spent 7-8 months on edge, taken to court etc. Apparently the CONTEXT of these 'malicious communications' doesn't matter to them. Those that are distressed and hurt are targeted.
I've been though the system as well never been charged with that offence. mental health social workers police and the mental health workers and doctors are not to be trusted I no I'm to late warn you but I do warn other people who have mental health issues I also tell never mention my name after warning them they can cause you serious problems also stay well away from mind they work hand in glove with them be careful. Hope your in a better place now. Andy England 🇬🇧👍
So good to see that there's absolutely zero burglary, mugging, knife crime etc... in that police force area, and they've got all that free time for two plain clothed officers to pull people up over thought crimes. Oh, hang on........
Make an appointment for a week ahead 5 minutes before the time Call him on the no he gave you And apologise profusely that you are unable to make the interview And agree to another interview in 2 weeks Repeat steps above Infinitum The penny might drop In a couple of months
Never ever go to a voluntary interview. Make them arrest you, as then they will need to state a charge. Once arrested say nothing, lawyer up and sue. It is absolutely disgusting that in this day and age you have to be mindful of any comments you make even in a debate, incase someone else's feelings get hurt.
Well, there's a big difference between "malicious" and "offensive." At that point I'd have probably laughed in their face, slammed the door, and continued laughing all the way back upstairs.
This is simply horrific! What the hell is going on with our government and our police force? Why are there ANY laws in the United Kingdom that bar anyone from expressing their likes and dislikes? Slander and libel laws should be sufficient for serious character attacks. Hate crime should NOT be a thing! Peoples emotions can change in an inkling. I can hate something one minute and love it the next. If someone gets triggered by something they strongly disagree with, then why is this a potential crime? Sturgeon and Humza Yousaf, her Cabinet Secretary of Justice, have just recently tabled an even stronger Hate Crime Bill for Scotland than the rest of the UK. STOP THE MADNESS before it consumes us all!
Had the man refused to attend an interview, what would these two 'police officers' have done? Think about that. If something is not voluntary, is it mandatory? Would force be used? would he be dragged away in handcuffs? This is England, remember, this is England in 2020. Remember that and be afraid. To coin a phrase, be very afraid. But never stop speaking your mind, or they will win.
But Mary, the police guy did indicate it was voluntary. So I suggest that had the guy indicated that he had no interest in going down, the best they could have done at that point is to issue a warning to him that his refusal to participate has been noted and that this may result in future action. Which, in this case would likely never come.They knew they had nothing as soon as they saw him and were simply following a mind-numbing routine set by the department from somewhere above.
Anyone who goes to a voluntary interview at a police station must need their heads examined. Tell them to kiss your starboard knacker! All they want to do is stitch you up on their own terms.
So we have waited for more than 3 weeks since the interview was to take place....... What was the outcome? Don't you just hate it when no updates are provided!!!
This is happening more and more now, quite a few people on Insta and fb have been asked into local police stations to discuss fb or Insta page content, the ones I've seen are only for disagreeing with the virus or vaccinations. Why the police don't focus on clearing up real crime is beyond me.
Really? More disturbing than watching a man get the the death penalty by a cop who choked the life out of him...? A couple of cops looking into a possible offence under the malicious communications act ..Its there to stop nasty trolls or social media hate speech..
Never turn down your right to have legal representation at ANY police interview! Period. Let your attorney do most of the talking. He or she knows criminal law, and it's application, better than you. The "less said, the better". If, in the UK, you have the right to remain silent, then do so.
The power of the left in action and you thought you lived in a free country. I expect this guy will get a formal caution, which could lead to a prosecution if he's a "naughty boy" (speaks out against Marxism) again. My advice, is get legal representation for that interview. Priority, learn how to make yourself anonymous online.
@@caahacky Better that, than a criminal record. Maybe it's time to start a crowd funded legal defence scheme for ordinary people who find themselves in this position?
Never go for a voluntary interview, it's a fishing exercise. If they had really evidence, they would arrest you.
And this is the winning correct answer right here. They are just looking for some easy low hanging heads to put on a pike. Nothing you can say to them will help you. There is a talk you can find on UA-cam called "Don't Talk to the Police." Although it is specific to US law, all of the problems with interviews and officers still apply to you. Get a lawyer. I would assume they are looking to put you on a list for a 'hate crime.'
The purpose of the proposed meeting is to elicit isolated sentences and phrases that can be used to prove the elenent of "intent" (in law known as "mens rea" or "guilty mind". Under the British law, they are not allowed to try to elicit self-incrminating evidence without a caution and giving you the right to counsel. The interaction you ghad with these pink clad clowns is a national embarassment. I understand the temptation to go to the proposed meeting and either try to educate them or laugh at their efforts. It is not a good idea! At best, that would be like an alcohool rub on a wooden peg. These two are well beyond redemption. At worst, they irritate you enough to say something they could use against you. If you decide to go insist on recording the entire conversation, stay calm and focused and do not allow the conversation anywhere near your reasoning for saying what you think.
Check out CrimeBodge on UA-cam for the UK side of this sort of stuff
Popcorn Power @ first words out of your mouth here in USA, I wanna lawyer.
ConstantinDV @ take a lawyer with you.
The UK has become a police state. They are simply Stazi with manners.
And pink shirts
ya, friendly...until they aren't
@Norbert Kausen But the if he was foolish enough to go, he deserves it.
Just say no!
This is the reason we left and came America, boot lickers like those two prissy coppers. Wake up soon you will be put into reeducation camps to get your mind right. Reasonable people can talk and say what they believe as long as it's not threatening or violent and it should be fine.
This is sick and disgusting!!!!
I'd decline. You arrest me and then I'll sue for damages.
Declining is good. The lawsuit, though, will cost you a bunch and get you nowhere. What you need to do is keep filming this kind of stuff, spread this as much as you can, and wake the normies up.
That's a great shout Stephen. I was getting some unpleasant comments on Twitter. I didn't complain to the Gestapo. I simply came off Twitter
He'd lose, UK does not have free speech.
Should they be talking to the grooming gangs.
Too much work involved, they much rather this be the focus of their entire days "Work". It's all the result of various people who just can't be bothered to justify their remuneration. From Politicians to judges all the way down to "PC Plod". All just too lazy to bother. They've better and easier things to do. Picking on non violent, non criminals, about their personal opinions is easy, solving and tackling crime is Hard. Solving problems is Hard, asking questions is easy. We all see how this works . . .
That would be too hard, scary & dangerous for these disgusting fascists.
At this point I'm willing to believe that the police are involved and guilty of the abuse of those girls.
Otherwise, they would have been deep into investigations.
Why would they talk to grooming gangs other than to encourage them? We are under attack from our own governments using a multitude of tools. Economic and Psychological Warfare are part of this.
@Mark Fisher Certainly they are facilitators... just stand back and do nothing. Or worse, bury the evidence.
England is in great danger. I hope the English people rise to the occasion.
But how , smuggle arms organize and unite , now pushed to the edge and betrayed by our own countries ! Those unable to rise to the fight will be controlled and lead to slaughter like the sheep they have become ! PATRIOTS RISE 🇺🇸🇸🇪🇬🇷🇬🇧
@Dennis Durkop I'm armed and do are a lot of english people who only follow english law and not british law we have a right to bear armes under the bill of rights 1668 the british are the enemy
@Dennis Durkop Then again your police also don't have guns. They were chased through the streets like dogs by BLM.
@@ddp2659 Excuse my ignorance, is there a difference between the English and the British? Between English law and British law? I'm not from Europe.
England is already lost
The guy next door probably had his house burgled but the police said they were too busy to attend
@Peter kelly
That's right. The police have declared that they will no longer investigate burglary. But the have the resourses for this kind of nonesense, What a discusting joke.
Fred Bloggs and no doubt they will putting all their resources into protecting Shemima Begum soon
No way should he go to that voluntary interview, and nor should he say anything more at all to those guys without getting a lawyer first. The so-called "voluntary interview at the station" is a trap to get him into a situation where they'll hope to isolate him, barrack him, intimidate him, manipulate him and eventually entrap him into a false confession of guilt in a phoney crime they've made up.
It's better to go. They will harass you (keep calling, phoning etc.) if you dont and they even may arrest you in the street and force you to have it. If you think you might be able to complain about harrasment and have someone in the police help you, think again. Just go and say nothing. No comment to everything.
@@Ironbuket You're probably right. The question then is, how can this despotic commie tyranny be demolished, or do we just have to wait until it collapses under the weight of its contradictions? It seems certain that the waiting game cannot work. Under that strategy, by the time the collapse happens, Britain, and the entire West, w will have been taken over by outsiders, and its history will be nothing but a curious footnote in the history of an entirely different civilization (or, quite likely, barbarism).
They want him to go to the cop shop so that he can't use his camera. If they had anything on the guy they would have took him in there and then, they just didn't want to incriminate themselves on video. I would have blasted them with hate speech ending with go f yourselves
@@Ironbuket nope! If they had anything, they'd be dragging him off then and there!
@@hubster4477 Sorry you are mistaken. It depends on the type of 'crime'. Many 'crimes' dont give officers the power to enter your home and arrest you, but do give them the power to arrest you if you are in a public space. Police will sometimes trick people into going in to a public space where they can then arrest them. They will sometimes use an invite to an interview to do this. Look it up.
Disgusting. Police not fit for purpose
Oh they're fit for purpose alright.
It's called 'Common Purpose.'
Look it up if you're unaware of this organisation.
@@jamesmorgan9474 True. Head of the met, the ghastly Cressida Dick is a Common Purpose "graduate" and there are many more
is the conversetaion open for investigation?
Well you know in Europe and Canada it's Illegal to commit hate speech. So the officers are just sent there by someone calling them telling them this person is committing hate speech. In these countries they do not have a First Amendment like America. Free speech is not allowed in most country. Judging by your confusion you lived in America for along time and don't understand the state of freedom around the world. If you are living in America I will like to remind you this interaction can happen if you vote Democrat. They are wanting to repeal the first amendment so they can put law into action like this. The Democrats in Cali already repeal Civil Acts rights making it legal for people and business to discriminate against race.
Just look at the body language of the other officer......he is standing back (indicating that he wants to get the hell away) and arms folded (indicating defensiveness and feeling uncomfortable). What we should ask is, Who was the Chief or Commissioner who sent them there; instead of attending a burglary or sex grooming case. Well done for filming. ❤
they're never intended for buglaries or grooming cases or they'd be dressed like policemen they are obviously a "special" unit
Mytwopennorth ..no actually there is some solid science behind it. In situational stress testing, chimps and human subjects put under stress....try to make themselves look as small and submissive as possible, exactly by crouching , folding arms in etc. This is associated with high productions of cortisol (stress hormone). The other side of this is when people are feeling confident and dominant they tend to make themselves as large as possible....picture Usain Bolt crossing the finish line...Arms outstretched. This is associated with a surge of testosterone. Good research on this by Dr. Amy Cuddy...who also may still hold the record of the most number of views for a Ted talk right here on UA-cam.
He was more worried about dog hairs on his trousers.
Well you know in Europe and Canada it's Illegal to commit hate speech. So the officers are just sent there by someone calling them telling them this person is committing hate speech. In these countries they do not have a First Amendment like America. Free speech is not allowed in most country. Judging by your confusion you lived in America for along time and don't understand the state of freedom around the world. If you are living in America I will like to remind you this interaction can happen if you vote Democrat. They are wanting to repeal the first amendment so they can put law into action like this. The Democrats in Cali already repeal Civil Acts rights making it legal for people and business to discriminate against race.
@@xsbaggage2666 Ha, ha. That's right. 'And bring that dog with you. We need to question it'.
That man is a legend for keeping his cool ,I would have hit the roof and caused a scene seriously 👍👍👍
That is exactly what they want you to do. Never do an interview with police without your lawyer. They are professional con men. They will try to trick you to say something you should not under their environment. This is a new win situation. Better to keep your mouth shut. Look what happen to General Flynn in the US. It cost him his reputation, house, job and can't make a living.
Thanks! Yes it was me in the video. I said I didn’t need a lawyer because I’ve studied law and have had over a dozen police interviews in my life, so I was confident that a co-operative one would only benefit my defence of any alleged crimes. After attending the interview I’m quite confident I won’t be charged but if I am, be ready for part 2 😂.
What Norbert said is correct, but you dont need a lawyer. Just go to the interview and say 'no comment' to everything. Dont fall for the attitude that they are your friend and start chatting, all they want you to do is say something that can be used as evidence to charge you. Don't even admit that you made the posts even when they show you evidence that could prove that, dont say anything - not one word apart from 'no comment'. If they already had evidence you would be getting arrested not being asked for an interview.
Edward Wyatt, if you want me to say some stuff online for these tyrants to see I would be more then willing to give them some thoughts that are way out of there jurisdiction!!!
@ Although much of what you said was true, it also paints a rather one sided picture. It is quite possible for someone to take offence to a comment you make and refer it to the police. As the police have large quoters to fill for this waste of time, they will investigate it even when 9 out of 10 people would think there is nothing to investigate. If they manage to charge you with something, maybe you are stupid enough to say something and they can use that rather than what you posted. They will get a big gold star from their superior. Dont assume that cops will only call on you if you have already done something serious and they already have evidence of it. It is very easy to make up a reason for being offended and trigger the police response. For example if someone had a learning difficulty, they might report your idiot comment as an offensive attack on people with disabilities. Do you get the gist now? The UK is full of snowflakes that cant wait to put in their next complaint to the police and the police are happily serving these people. It's only going to get worse unfortunatly as the ranks of the police fill up with more and more snowflakes themselves.
Disgusting waste of taxpayers money. Honestly, you try to stay onside with the police but then you see this. And Sunday, so that's their overtime sorted. Edit: in fact the more I think about this the more I am convinced that it's just about generating overtime for two policemen.
it's much more sinister than that. if you're a light skinned caucasian human that doesn't agree with the authoritarian political movement known as "multicultural diversity" then you are guilty of wrong think and they smear you as a hateful supremacist. they deem you as guilty for anything and everything when they desire you to be guilty.
hahaha, you think the money you use is real??????
I think I’d have declined to attend myself like
Like what?
Peter Howe I’m a commoner, I type how I talk. I just put like on the end of random sentences for seemingly no logical reason. I do it so people like yourself can feel superior to me just because they grew up in a place where everyone talks like a 1970’s news presenter. How is it up there on your moral high ground....I imagine your farts smell like unicorn flowers.
@@seshelbow336 What's your problem buddy? Why the attitude? Heck, if you can't speak proper English, someone may ask you what in heck do you mean because it makes no sense. You don't have to come on here and attack this guy. All he said was "Like what" because any normal sentence would have ended with the word "myself". When you add the word "like", something is expected to come after that. Now go back to grammar school and learn how to speak.
@@seshelbow336 moral high ground? The guy asked you a simple question and you turn right into a douche.
@@terryr9052 Pot , kettle , black.. .the guy was being a facetious twat..
Considering the police arrived at your door step, it should warrant that they identity clearly who the claim was from. You have every right to know who your accuser is and also understand that they are also being interviewed. Making a claim against one person without any repercussions is a pretty dangerous precedent to be setting.
I wonder why I have worked hard, obeyed the law and paid my taxes for this total injustice?
That's what I think Shirley - if, by working hard, obeying the law, paying our taxes, we then arrive at this sad state, what was the point? I think there's some similar sentiment expressed in the brilliant film "No Country for Old Men". 😳
2 men for a Facebook chat complaint. Try and get a police to attend when yiou are burgled!
I actually called the police when the terraced house next to mine got broken into and burgled. I could hear the burglars inside the house all night. The police never showed up. Too busy apparently. Now we know why they're busy.
@@chesshooligan1282 That sounds like absolute hell. How could this go on the entire night and they never showed up? The dept. should be sued.
@@chesshooligan1282
The police are not here to uphold the law as they would like you to think, the police are a domestic form of guards to protect the monarchy and as long as the queen is safe etc then they could not careless about the rights and safety of the public.
I did and they didn't turn up!
never talk to the cops without your lawyer present for any reason
@Ian Boynton I did not know that Ian thanks for the insight. The layer is good for one thing thou if you find the going tough you may want someone there just to reassure you so kinda depends on your personality as well.
This is very creepy. In England! We wish you lots of strength from the Netherlands.
This has happened several times with other people accused of 'thought crimes' on Facebook..
The police stated to a person in his garden in one video 'We want you to come down for a chat so we can check your thinking'
Been going on for a couple of years now..
Do NOT go to the police station. Do NOT give them any details. Do NOT help them in anyway. They do not have you best interest at heart, they simply want to tick boxes rather than achieve any sort of justice.
If he did go, what happened?
so the police do not go after real crime or murderer, and taxpayers paying for this kind of police, i support the police where i live, not this kind of police ,i am for right and freedom
are youo saying that there is no crime in spreading slanders/malischous speak?
Police are under pressure to indict, regardless of fairness and justice. I wouldn't have gone without consulting an attorney.
I thing you're wrong. This is two policemen trawling facebook while "on shift" to generate a bit of overtime on Sunday - the day proposed by the policeman for the interview. And if they can issue a "caution" at the end of it then it's all justified and they can start trawling for next Sunday's overtime. Their overtime working should be reviewed.
@Louise Katt - And who do you think is the man behind the curtain?
Louise Katt the police have been told to only target whites after the blm riots they don’t want to upset the minorities....we have to be very careful ☹️
@@sideshowbob5237 You're saying these agents are guilty of misconduct, their superior officer is negligent, and this is a pattern in the police?
Also, stifling free speech is an odd choice for time-padding. Can't they find someone speeding on a bike?
Tossers. I reckon its getting very close to pitchfork time
😂😂😂
pitchfork time has been long overdue actually
I was thinking of that movie when the two priests come to a mans house, threaten him, and then the entire family kills the priests and feed them to the pigs. I got the same feeling here. Oh and it also reminds me when the SS visit houses in Nazi Germany. Odd.
I'd like to see some 'eads on a pike in the US.
I've got some torches ....
When I had my car stolen I never saw a copper, or my car again. When I had a guy on my roof, never saw a copper. Years later, I was assaulted (by a guy on drugs) as I walked home from work. When I phoned the cops they said "If you don't know his name we can't help you !" But, suddenly, here they are because of something on Facebook ? WTF !
If you're not being arrested on suspicion of a crime you can ask the 🐷 to leave your property immediately.
If it's a voluntary interview you decline to attend.
@Repeat After Me: If asserting our own human rights is now somehow "rude" then we're all screwed.
This is a police force short of officers playing silly games.
Large amounts of police budgets in the UK have been diverted to this type of 'crime'. They have no choice. The officers themselves could be as unhappy about it as us.
@@IronbuketThey always have a choice. No excuse.
@@kasasensei correct, you always have a choice. You have the choice to stop paying your taxes and the choice to stop obeying laws. It may not work out so great for you however.
@@Ironbuket Already doing this and doing great. Beside, you're being out of scope in the topic. Here, we are talking about cops not doing their duties, not enforcing the law and doing moral policing instead of fighting real society issues and crimes.
How many times have I heard this "Orwell's 1984 was supposed to be fiction not an instruction manual."
Actually "1984"was meant as a WARNING, not an instructional manual.
@@stevienellor9120 the holy bible is a lesson of love
btw the following is a vision by a pope in 1884:
The guttural voice, the voice of Satan in his pride, boasted to Our Lord:
"I can destroy your Church."
The gentle voice of Our Lord:"You can? Then go ahead and do so."
Satan:"To do so, I need more time and more power."
Our Lord:"How much time? How much power?
Satan:"75 to 100 years, and a greater power over those who will give themselves over to my service."
Our Lord:"You have the time, you will have the power. Do with them what you will."
Point made.
Sue them for invading your privacy, violating your freedom of speech
Put an official complaint in to the IOPC for causing you undue stress and anxiety.
policeconduct.gov.uk/
It is a violation of human rights.
They will defend themselves with "I was just following orders."
Yeah they will, but we can always say the Wermacht were just following orders....
@Dennis Durkop I lived in Argentina only a couple years after people were "disappeared" there. I know people whose family members had "visits" (like this - only they took them away, never to be seen from again). One woman I met and spoke with told me how she was arrested, taken by the police, stripped naked, tied to a metal bedframe, and tortured. They would jolt her with electricity, and put out their cigarette butts on her body. (I saw those - the scares remained.) She suffered memory loss as a result of the electric shocks. No, we don't want that to happen ANYWHERE, ever again! (The outer walls of the convent in the suburb of Buenos Aires still has the marks where the bullets struck, when they lined people up to executed by firing squads. I was there in 1985 - that happened a couple years before, about 1981- 1983.)
do we know what has happened after this second meeting?
Sooooo,,,,"The Men in Black" wear PINK!!!?? HOW TRICKY!!😳😲
Dodgy bastards are trying to bamboozle us!
"If you don’t want a man unhappy politically, don’t give him two sides to a question to worry him; give him one. Better yet, give him none." -Fahrenheit 451.The"fireman" have arrived.
I hope he didn't go for the interview. Never talk when you don't have to. Even if innocent your words can be altered to mean anything.I hear the virtual slavery of illegals has been not a priority for the police because they are too busy doing things like this, catching words instead of criminals.
I've been charged with malicious communication for comments made regarding mental health services. I've been traumatised by services - police, mental health. All of them are playing one big game. They prey on the vulnerable. Destroyed my life. They spent 2 months deciding whether to pursue it, then turned up and arrested me (after I'd phoned countless times to enquire what was going on, from pure anxiety knowing they were 'investigating' the alleged incident, offering to come in and explain). I spent 7-8 months on edge, taken to court etc. Apparently the CONTEXT of these 'malicious communications' doesn't matter to them. Those that are distressed and hurt are targeted.
I've been though the system as well never been charged with that offence. mental health social workers police and the mental health workers and doctors are not to be trusted I no I'm to late warn you but I do warn other people who have mental health issues I also tell never mention my name after warning them they can cause you serious problems also stay well away from mind they work hand in glove with them be careful. Hope your in a better place now. Andy England 🇬🇧👍
If "offensive" speech is illegal, there is no freedom of thought...because anyone can find anything offensive.
So good to see that there's absolutely zero burglary, mugging, knife crime etc... in that police force area, and they've got all that free time for two plain clothed officers to pull people up over thought crimes.
Oh, hang on........
What qualifies as "offensive"? Offensive to whom? I'm offended by your presence
Some people are offended by someone’s mere existence!
Absolutely objective.
and we are told Grooming gangs were not prosecuted due to 'lack of resources' WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Make an appointment for a week ahead
5 minutes before the time
Call him on the no he gave you
And apologise profusely that you are unable to make the interview
And agree to another interview in 2 weeks
Repeat steps above
Infinitum
The penny might drop
In a couple of months
Never ever go to a voluntary interview. Make them arrest you, as then they will need to state a charge. Once arrested say nothing, lawyer up and sue. It is absolutely disgusting that in this day and age you have to be mindful of any comments you make even in a debate, incase someone else's feelings get hurt.
Well, there's a big difference between "malicious" and "offensive." At that point I'd have probably laughed in their face, slammed the door, and continued laughing all the way back upstairs.
You need to get your mind right boy!!! What are we coming to in this once great country?
Get a solicitor, say nothing, it's a trap.☠️☠️☠️
Voluntary meeting where they can possibly charge me with stuff. I’ll pass .
Big brother is here and now. The matrix, 1984 commisars, stasi, KGB. Call it what you want. Its here and the police are now pathetic.
This is simply horrific! What the hell is going on with our government and our police force? Why are there ANY laws in the United Kingdom that bar anyone from expressing their likes and dislikes? Slander and libel laws should be sufficient for serious character attacks. Hate crime should NOT be a thing! Peoples emotions can change in an inkling. I can hate something one minute and love it the next. If someone gets triggered by something they strongly disagree with, then why is this a potential crime? Sturgeon and Humza Yousaf, her Cabinet Secretary of Justice, have just recently tabled an even stronger Hate Crime Bill for Scotland than the rest of the UK. STOP THE MADNESS before it consumes us all!
Had the man refused to attend an interview, what would these two 'police officers' have done? Think about that. If something is not voluntary, is it mandatory? Would force be used? would he be dragged away in handcuffs? This is England, remember, this is England in 2020. Remember that and be afraid. To coin a phrase, be very afraid. But never stop speaking your mind, or they will win.
But Mary, the police guy did indicate it was voluntary. So I suggest that had the guy indicated that he had no interest in going down, the best they could have done at that point is to issue a warning to him that his refusal to participate has been noted and that this may result in future action. Which, in this case would likely never come.They knew they had nothing as soon as they saw him and were simply following a mind-numbing routine set by the department from somewhere above.
Anyone who goes to a voluntary interview at a police station must need their heads examined. Tell them to kiss your starboard knacker! All they want to do is stitch you up on their own terms.
He should have immediately refused the voluntary interview. If it's something he is his not required to do, then he should refuse immediately.
Am I under arrest no well goodbye its that simple. Andy England 🇬🇧👍
I look forward to hearing and seeing the "offended" person. This is the malicious one in this story.
What? Nobody expects the Thought Police!
Don't go talk! Demand a written injunction! Get a lawyer.
I'd love to hear an update!
And our tax is paying for this!!!
Can these officers be 'interviewed' for their offensive time wasting?
NEVER agree to a “voluntary” interview...
Don't talk to the cops. Leads to nothing but trubble.
Stay silent even if they arrest you, it’s your best defence and it frustrates the hell out of them
"I'm not interested thank you, good day". Then slam the door in their stupid faces.
Agent Smiths...
The British Gestapo Thought Police in plainclothes,
This is BS!
If it were that "malicious" it would be a crime, and an arrestable offence...
Yo when’s the update out?
So we have waited for more than 3 weeks since the interview was to take place....... What was the outcome?
Don't you just hate it when no updates are provided!!!
This is happening more and more now, quite a few people on Insta and fb have been asked into local police stations to discuss fb or Insta page content, the ones I've seen are only for disagreeing with the virus or vaccinations. Why the police don't focus on clearing up real crime is beyond me.
"Just following orders" as an excuse for totalitarian activities ended with Nuremberg. These cops are complicit in totalitarian aggression.
Find out who was offended and file your own police report claiming your feelings were hurt because they didnt agree with you.
This is one of the most disturbing videos I've ever watched on UA-cam
Really? More disturbing than watching a man get the the death penalty by a cop who choked the life out of him...? A couple of cops looking into a possible offence under the malicious communications act ..Its there to stop nasty trolls or social media hate speech..
I would be telling them to go fourth and multiply
Ok this video was dated 1st July any updates on how the interview went or is he inside ?
OMG!! George Orwell is rolling over in his grave. Literal thought police!
Yeah,Orwell is rolling in his grave alright,at the way his ideas have been misappropriated by the kind of people he went to war against in Spain.
This is scary
Why the hell do people use Facebook!??
Are you arresting me? If so, for what?
If not, please get off of my property.
"malicious communications?" thats some serious 1984 talk right there.
Vote for Patriotic Alternative. Look them up Mark Collett and Laura Towler
He shouldn't go to the police station. They can't make him.
1984.
the brownshirts are now pinkshirts like Bill Gates -- unreal!!!!
We are the Goon Squad & we're coming to town Beep Beep!!
@Paul Alexander Think we have a hit! 🎼👩🎤
Never turn down your right to have legal representation at ANY police interview! Period. Let your attorney do most of the talking. He or she knows criminal law, and it's application, better than you. The "less said, the better". If, in the UK, you have the right to remain silent, then do so.
Interesting they refuse to talk to you in front of a camera .
Thinking the same!
When they say we can discuss it at the interview the response is ‘what interview?’ Always refuse.
In the US we are recommended to observe one unalienable right: Bring an attorney, since we are represented. Rather, the right to remain silent.
DO NOT GO IT IS A SET UP. THEY ARE FISHING AND INTIMIDATING
What was the subject of conversation / discussion on FB?
We have One Rule here in the USA - DON'T TALK TO THE POLICE! Pay attention.
he should have answered no and given his first name and of the family of clan of ,,,,,,,,,,,, flesh and blood man ,no consent no powers bye bye
Never volunteer to go to their place of work.
Monty Python could have put them in Medieval Clothing and made a skit about the modern Spanish Inquisition....
But no one would expect it
wtf did we fight the nazis for....
Gestapo in new pink uniforms.
These two police officers should be ashamed for what they do!
Wtf??
The brown shirts have risen again.
what was the 'offensive' comment?
That dog could smell the bullshit
The power of the left in action and you thought you lived in a free country. I expect this guy will get a formal caution, which could lead to a prosecution if he's a "naughty boy" (speaks out against Marxism) again. My advice, is get legal representation for that interview. Priority, learn how to make yourself anonymous online.
Who pays for the lawyer? He wouldn't get legal aid so even if he isn't charged in the end he still has a large bill and is out of pocket.
@@caahacky Better that, than a criminal record. Maybe it's time to start a crowd funded legal defence scheme for ordinary people who find themselves in this position?
@@geoffhalsey2184 True Geoff and the 'accuser' gets off with nothing.
Or better yet, just say nothing and close the door. No need for a lawyer.
Never go to a voluntary interview with the police, period.
WTFFFFF
'Malicious Communications'...WTF!