Why I Catch 3X More Bass on Deep Diving Crankbaits Than You
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- Опубліковано 26 чер 2019
- Deep diving crankbaits are probably my favorite fishing lure to catch bass on in the summertime, but I know a lot of people struggle to catch fish on them. One of the main reasons for this is their retrieve. As a Deep Diving Crankbait addict, I’ve developed my own special retrieve that will help put a lot more bass in the boat and keep you less hung up. In this video, I share this retrieve and tips on the best gear ratio reel to use when fishing deep diving crankbaits. Hope you enjoy!
-Jonny
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Strike King Pro Model 4 5 & 6 Series Crankbaits
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Deep Diving Crankbait Rod and Reel
Abu Garcia Veritas Winch Crankbait Rod 7'6" Med Hvy
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Abu Garcia REVO Winch Gen 4 Casting Reel
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As my cousin says, “the fish have two options when I’m cranking... (1) eat it or (2) get run over by it.”
110% effective, my dad showed me how to do this. By far makes a difference!
Amazing advice. Haven’t caught anything from my dock with my deep crank bait after hours of fishing for a couple weeks. Saw this video and tried this method and caught a big bass in like 5 minutes.
As a kayak angler I will often troll a crank bait from place to place as I move to another spot and have been amazed at how many bites I've gotten towards the end of my move as I'm really trying to just reel it in. I've never considered just fishing it in general very fast.
I have been fishing for over 20 years and NEVER considered this technique ...Abstract thinking!! thanks for the advice!
20 years and you never thought "reel fast"?
@@thomasliptrott3834 yep, you see the issue lies within the definition of REELING FAST...with a 8:1:1 reel; am I not ALREADY reeling fast??!!?.. what is a Bass' time in the 40yard dash?!? Are they really that fast!?!... I've never clocked one!.. how about YOU??
Outstanding, Jonny...You are the best! So much knowledge and technique...Thanks for sharing it with us!!!
Great content! This video single handedly make me confident in trying crankbait again. Enjoyed every single minute of this video.
Thanks so much for the juicy tips!!! Will be catching some biggins here soon doing this!!
Excellent information Jonny! I appreciate you taking the time in making these videos to help others improve their bass fishing skills. I recently purchased a Quantum KVD Smoke 6.1:1 reel with a St. Croix Premier 7’ MH moderate action crank bait rod specifically for fishing crank baits. I’m using Seaguar 12 lb fluorocarbon. I’ve caught a few bass on crank baits in the 30+ years that I’ve been bass fishing, but I’ve never really used them a lot. I’m more of a jig and worm fisherman. After watching your videos I’ve decided to try new techniques to help me catch more fish. There is one spot on the reservoir I fish that has a ton of rip rap packed tightly together that runs from the shoreline down to approximately 12’ deep. From there it drops off to 20’+ deep. This is a spot where I know there are huge bass, but it is almost impossible to fish a jig or worm without constantly getting hung up and breaking off. I’m going to try using a crank bait in the manner that you describe in this video.
Yup. killed it with quick retrieve with DT10s the other day with my boy...awesome stuff!
This makes a lot of sense to me, especially for offshore bass. I have always struggled with throwing deep diving crankbaits being a mostly shallow fisherman and am guilty of the slow retrieve. I will try this out next time I am fishing deep. Great video!
Great content and great information I have to put it to the test keep up the good work Johnny
I will definitely be adding that to my Arsenal. You have such get info you use the same things that us normal folks use but you add the extra twist to it and now it becomes remarkable👍🏽
Solid advice. Getting that true reaction bite. They either bite or move out of the way. One of my go to channels! Your a busy man! Pumping out the videos. Good job!
Excellent nugget of info and reminder to get more bites. I like you getting out and not always doing take reviews.
Been doing this for years. Love it. Have haff multiple times 2 fish on at same time. Front & rear treble. 1 ounce mudbug in crayfish. On flipping stick and 10lb line. Long tod for longer casts. 5 fish in 4 cast and total 22lbs +. In a lake that is not know for larger fish.
Your full of crap. If it were true you should be doing videos of cranking hard pulling in double bass you lier
So helpful. I always learn from your videos.
Hahaha “you’re gonna catch three fish at the same time, win every tournament on the lake...”😂
Great tips, thank you for this. I’m definitely going to try out retrieving my crankbaits much faster! I especially appreciated the tip about burning it through brush piles; makes sense but I’d never really thought of it that way.
The full spool picks up more line per turn. The ratio is the same but inches per turn is lower with a half spool because of the smaller circumference. If the circumference of a half full spool is 2 inches but a full spool is 2.5 inches, with a 5:1 ratio you get 10" of line per handle turn (5*2=10) at half spool versus 12.5 inches of line per handle turn (5*2.5=12.5) with a full spool. I've started to pay closer attention to inches per turn vs gear ratio alone.
John Nowe absolutely right.
The reel specs are also shown with a reel filled entirely with line.
Having a reel entirely full of line decreases the memory the line retains as well. Which makes for those longer casts.
@@Sam-bu8dj excellent point. I didn't think of that.
Gear ratio isn't inches. For instance. A 5:1 gear ratio reel indicates for every single turn of the handle the spool will spin 5 times. Based on spool diameter your IPT or inches per turn can vary. Most manufacturers label IPT now or at least the reels i use. Both are important but preferences vary based on user. For deep cranking i prefer the 5:1 to 6:4 range depending on the lure.
Awesome tips, thanks Jonny.
Thank you , Jonny so much for making me a better fisherman , I have been watching your techniques and taking them to water , thank you for all you do and what future bring to you , well deserved.
Awesome tip Jonny!!
Great info actual hands on demonstration
Awesome thanks for the help !!!👍
Very good video! I’m going to try this
Really enjoy your videos, learning alot about bass and electronics. Plus they are my local lakes!
great tip. I will definitely try it.
6, 8, 10XD are some of the best Cranbaits on the market. This time of year I have each one tied on. Caught some mega sized bass on them off shore. I agree with you on the ratio.
That old school energy though!😍
Alright man, I'll definitely be giving it a try !
I absolutely love fishing a crankbait. I have found you couldn't be more correct on the faster retrieve. It is a workout but more than worth it. Great info. I would love to see the difference in action (slow to fast) on an underwater cam.
Another great video.
Great information, Thanks!
Awesome content! Thank you 🙏
X2 on this technique. I’ve caught my biggest fish burning a DD. Just can only do it so long before need to take a break from cranking. Mix it up with dragging a worm for a bit to help with fatigue.
Great tip!! Good stuff!
Excellent video. Technique I will try for deep water smallmouth
Awesome video!!!
Great instruction. Thank you.
Thats funny i have used this fast tech w 3-4 ft crankbaits but will be trying it w deepdivers. Thanks.
Great video lots of advice 👍 KVD gives the same advice "burn the bait in and pop it once in a while then burn it again!".
Great content for sure. Ever fish deep cranks on straight braid?
man I fished a deep diver offshore today and caught a ton of fish, I checked with your video after to compare and we literally do the same retrieve! crushed about 25 bass on a big breakline with a road bed crossing
Jonny, thx for the great video/ info.! Im just starting to try out crankbait fishing. Im a bank fisherman any different tips, tactics, locations for us bank fisherman or just quick retrieve?
Also, for bank fishing would i look for a deep diver that goes down to what? Maybe 12ft? Or what u think? Also, do u upgrade your treble hooks?
Thx for your input.
Hey brother. Love your videos!
Did you ever make the video explaining and showing deep cranking in a brushpile? I've looked and can't seem to find it.
The more line you get on your spool the more line you take in per handle turn. Your lure will be moving faster the closer it gets if you reel at the same speed. Experament: Wrap a string around a pencil and see how long it takes to wind on there. Now tie it around bottle and see how much faster u can wrap it. Definitely changes the ratio
Yes sir. It’s been working for many years! And line size matters too.
Thanks for the video! We just got our first bass boat and are back fishing every week. admittedly, suck! Haha!! Dont have all the money in the world to get a bunch of combos and such, but building my baits when academy does their bogo sales. Love just being out on the water throwing a line. I will be watching alot more of your vids. Thanks again from Central FL
The fuller the spoil the more line it picks up every revolution. Good tips. I’ll give it a shot. I usually reel my Crankbaits on the faster side just from habit or my natural reeling motion. I’m going to buy a reel in the 5:1 range. Been using 6.3:1 for cranking
No wonder you cant catch fish cranking lol
But three times zero is still zero
Exactly
Maybe the reason a lot of guys fish them that way is because years ago one dude probably said he had a new way of retrieving deep diving lures hahaha
Not gonna call any names, but his initials are Buck Perry😆😆. Seriously though, I’m glad to see his style being used by someone like Johnny👍
Funny this video popped up on my youtube today... I just figured this out by accident yesterday. We were getting ready to leave a spot so I cranked in super fast and had 3 bass trying to slam a 6th Sense Cloud 9 crank bait as soon as it got to the boat.
Awesome jonny
Love those old quantum energy reels !
I already picked this retrieve up from your channel,,but man it's a super workout with 20 foot plus cranks.
need a better cranking rod and a slow reel like a 6:1 if you are having issues with deep divers
Pointing the rod directly at the bait helped me fight fatigue. Keith Combs and adavid Fritz both do this and you can still feel a lot of what's going on with the bait.
@@Gophacyerself I went and got a 5
4 to 1 today..try it out tomorrow
@@castaway6811 any take aways?
Another Somebody yes it seemed easier but the huge cranks are still a workout,probably need to upgrade my rod also for those,but I spent a few hours cranking 5 and 6 xds without any strain at all and caught probably 30 fish while doing it.
Been struggling to catch any on the deep divers. Im leaving for the lake right now. Caught this video right in time. Do you always throw sexy shad for deep water applications?
Excellent Video, but Do you fish the spinnerbait fast, just like a crankbait or faster?
I use a piscifun perseus 6.3.1 gear ratio with an 18.5 drag. If you guys are uncomfortable putting that much line on the spool, use electric tape to fill it halfway, then spool your line over that. I usually use braid to short leader (3ft) so I can cast a mile because of the braid backing
The drag 'weight' has nothing at all to do with retrieve speed. Lets go out and fish DD22s all day, me with my 5.4 BB1Z reel and see who wears out their arm first. Just that small difference in reel ratios makes a hell of a difference after a couple hours fishing.
Killing it once and awhile for a second during fast retrieve triggers strikes too. They’ll hit as soon as it stops, or as soon as you resume retrieve. 🎣
Hey man do you ever fish offshore at night? If so what baits do you throw and do the fish set up on the structure the same way?
I do the exact same thing Johnny, but most (95 %) of my home lakes South Jersey are shallow and heavily weeded bottoms. It seems that I can only throw square bills along the shore line , am I correct or should I cast out and try to keep the crank bait just ticking off the top of the weeds and snap it out??
The Berkley dregger is a bait you should check out,,much smaller bait that gets down to depths that the huge baits do
Man I really enjoy your videos I finally picked up a garmin 93 , if u ever want to come fish Hartwell hit me up !
Thank you brother.
More line adds high gear. I find out it also slows down the back lash to. Because being a high gear .if It dont have alot of line seems to back lash more
I’ve heard some people crank below the thermocline. Is that effective or should you always stay above the thermocline?
Are you using mono what brand??? Thanks
Jonny... love those gloves. what kind are those?
With regard to your question about a full spool versus a low spool and gear ratio. I'm sure you understand that it doesn't change the gear ratio, your reel is still 5:1. But a full spool means you will be retrieving more line per handle turn since the circumference of the spool is larger. With that said, it will actually be easier and take less force to reel in a low filled spool, but you will also be retrieving less line per turn.
Hay Johnny thanks for the secret tip, I'm going to give this a whirl
+1 for a great video
I learned the fast retrieve by trolling my crankbait with my ulterra 112#thrust on max speed and dragging the bottom on days that I couldn't get a bite I find a few like that. Live your videos and steady arming myself with new wisdom with every once you release. Thank you.
Curious.. do you burn like DT 6/10 .. rock crawlers.. 3xd. Smaller CBs as well or slow down with those? Typical colder water CBs
Ok what size reel are you using and speed?
When you get into cranking brush could you discuss any adjustments you make to the baits that might help them come through brush? Thanks for the video!
Rule 1: Dont crank brush. ;P I have definitely put my lure retriever to good use getting lures out of tree-tops over the past couple years. lol
I think Johnny intentionally puts his lure through brush piles though. Don't ask me how. You put a tree between me and the fish and I'm GOING to hang up.
@@dangerously72 Wrong always crank it!! just pop the rod as the line gets tight on branches
@@porthos6914 when my line is tight on branches, it's because it's SNAGGED. Too late for popping it..lol. By that time, I'm having to pull out the lure retriever pole. Lol.
What color crankbaits for October in clear water?
Do you have an instructional video that shows exactly how to mark stuff on the sonar and then actually fish what you just marked?
Charles Arriola here you go!
ua-cam.com/video/sEai3-vLu7A/v-deo.html
What would happen if you made a super over sized handle on your reel that you use deep crank baits on and use a high ratio reel? Would that not fix the speed issue?
I agree, absolutely would be better with a faster reel but I personally don't go over 6.3:1 for 15+ ft deep. I understand what he is saying about the lower ratios having more power but cranking that fast is impossible to maintain with the deep divers especially if you're cranking on it for hours. Changing retrieve rates every couple of casts IMO is much better rather than just steadily burning (unless you want that forearm pump, you know, for the gains).
Do you like braid for cranking? I watched a video from the King of cranks, (David Fritts), he has gone exclusively to braid. What are your thoughts?
Don't know about him, but I personally use braid for cranking, and it definitely has benefits. I can feel any time the bait is gummed up, and rip it out of the weeds. You just want to make sure you use a rod with a slower action to make up for there being no stretch.
@@aboveaveragebayleaf9216 you never heard of david fritts chris Turner dont listen to a word this wierd says
@@michaelmcclenon6663 Fritts DOES throw braid mostly now! And he usually doesn't slam stumps or burn em all the way in either, hits it, then slowly pulls it over , but overall ,let's the fish tell him what they want.
Too fast can have you MISS a lot of fish.
Does anyone know what brand of gloves he was first using in the first demonstration with the crank bait?
Stuntman D29 Glacier Gloves Fingerless Sun Gloves. www.tacklewarehouse.com/Glacier_Glove_Fingerless_Sun_Gloves/descpage-007GP.html
He has a deal with Tackle Warehouse. Link through the video and he gets a kickback.
You can see the brand name on the cuff at 8:07
A single wrap of line around a 1” dia. spool equals 3.14”. If the spool is only half full, then that wrap is only half as long. A full spool gives you MORE line take-up per handle turn than a spool that’s only half as full. It’s easy to understand, especially when spooling your reels with new line.
Do u tie direct to crankbait
and you're doing this for all seasons? Winter, Spring, Summer and Fall?
.... and pray there's no log at the bottom! lol good video, thank you :)
Credit where credit's due: I sat through this video specifically to see what you had to say regarding retrieve ratios of various reels and the effect it has on the diving of a crankbait. It's a subject that a lot of "pros" ignore, probably because they don't know.
The reel ratio determines the distance a crankbait will cover with each turn of the handle and every crankbait has a threshold beyond which it no longer dives and it behaves erratically. Knowing that threshold (trial and error) makes the particular crankbait most effective.
David Fritts has retrieve ratios down to a science. He says, "There's no retrievable (crank) bait that needs to be on those high-speed reels". I believe he's right.
As to retrieve ratio and power, it's a mathamatical relationship between the drive gear size and that of the driven gear. A 3:1 ratio creates more power (but less speed) than a 7:1 ratio.
Very interesting
Increasing the amount of line on the reel increases the speed of your retrieve. It effectively makes your "spool" thicker, by adding more line to the spool. This makes you retrieve more line per rotation of the spool.
A reel has what gear ratio that is built into the gearing (high, low, or in-between). Yet when one does not fill a spool completely with line of whatever sort, the angler is not maximizing the number of inches that the gear ratio can retrieve in one turn of the reel handle. Basically, you are short-changing yourself with the amount of line you are retrieving with one turn of the reel handle, all things considered, compared to having a full spool of line, with a greater diameter to achieve maximum line retrieval.
Great stuff Jonny! I was out deep cranking till my arm went numb yesterday, but I was using a 6.8 and 7.5 reel. Smh. Left Handed and Low gear ratio seem hard to come by and pricey.
Kidiraq, check out the kastking whitemax on Amazon. I've had one for about 8 months now, 0 problems. Left handed same price as right 😁
Brent thanks brother, I’ll def check that out! Made two 2 hour drives to my local BPS and emailed TW asking for ideas. TW was unsure and told me to call during business hours. BPS found one in 5.4 but we’re out both times with no eta. Think it was the Abu Winch. Heard good things, but couldn’t roll the dice on 199$. Lews still my favorite so far! Tks again and God Bless!
@@kidiraq8381 I have a Lew's also, and I find the kastking similar quality but only 40 bucks. Just make sure you get a good one, (no gear noises, vibrations etc). I think kastking's quality control is a little lacking, but for the price I can't complain. And they will replace it for free if you have any problems. Goodluck!
@@kidiraq8381 Abu has their round reels and the Revo X Gen 4 has a 5 speed in left for $99 on TW. Also ebay and on forums you can find old Curado Bs and the likes.
@@ScuffedEngineer Tks Shadow, I look into the Revo, my 2nd fave reel is an only 99$ Lews LFS with my fave being the TP LFS now. Revo X has allot of good things said about it for the price point, I've read. Left handed and 5 speed def deserves a look!
You Guys Rock, sincerely appreciate the feed back!
Did not know that🎣🇺🇸
Full spool means greater diameter, which means more line taken in per turn of the reel, which means a higher gear.
🎣Fish on!
Glad to see still some 5.1.1 guys left in this world. These crazy kids today with their 8.1.1 stuff grrr....now I have to suck up every used cranking reel as fast as I can, in case I need them in future
You answered my question
FRESHIE!!
Hey Johnny, could you drop some advice on your top reels... you know, before you get signed and can't speak on such things 😉😁
Another Somebody he already has videos covering that
Are you referring to his latest one where he recommends 5 and 6 gear ratio reels for deep divers, or did I miss one?
Seems like the affordable ones all suck, so it's impossible to know what ones are worth the money.
Why dont you tournament fish anymore?
I retrieve fast and use rod sweeps and pauses. Most of my strikes come right after the pause…
if you want them to get a good look at it you might as well throw a keitech
Maybe one day make a video fishing on a natural lake, when you do get a chance to get on one. Help out the northern fishermen🙂
Lol at this title. 🤣