Bye Handan,you were the most butchered Ottoman historical character ever in the series. Irl, Handan was a very influential woman (and part of sultanate of women),even though she was 2 years Valide Sultan, she had enormous influence on the state. She exiled Safiye and dismiss all the corrupted people in the divan and harem,and replace it with her countrymen Bosnians,she formed a circle of loyal people for Ahmed(because Ahmed was the first sultan who ascended the throne without governing a province and childless). She acted as co regent with Ahmed's teacher Mustafa Efendi and Yavuz Ali Pasa(the grand vizier).She organizid political meetings with Ahmed, Yavuz Ali Pasa and Mustafa Efendi at night(but Handan was in veil and spoke behind curtain),and also she made Ahmed famous at soldiers by advising him how to win their favour. Also some had believed that Ahmed and Handan had bad relationship, because Handan as Valide received 1000 aspers(low compared to Safiye).But contrary, there is no proof that Ahmed had reduced her salary, but it's more Handan herself. Why? Because previously when Mehmed III was sultan,and went to a campaign he made Safiye head of the treasury,and she increased her salary to 3000 aspers,which made the soldiers furious,and later there were riots against it and for other reasons too. So Handan had done the opposite. Handan died very early(in her mid 30's),because of digestive problems. And some historians believe that there was genetic disorder because Ahmed I, Murad IV, Murad IV's sons, and also Suleiman II and others died of same problems and they had inherited from her. The only thing which can be found some accuracy about Handan in the show is that she and Kosem really didn't get along and had bad relationship.
Ahmed only negative trait was the way he treated his mother ( just like Murat)😢😢 also wow amazing acting by Ahmed 👏👏👏👏 a mother will always be a boys first love even when he makes his own family he can always run to his mother because he knows he will always be her young cup
Murad(show version) was the worst in treating his family(not only Kosem,but also his hasekis, brothers, sisters and etc). Way worse than Suleiman and Ahmed. Thankfully, real Murad and Ahmed respected and treated well their mothers.
First inconsistency how Ahmed managed to believe the daughter of his mother's enemy (Dilura) without any proof. 2) It's nice (ironic) to see that Kosem is blamed for everything bad that happens by Humasah (It must remind you of something in MC) who seems to me to see her in the first episodes as a cartoon villain (it must still remind you of someone although Humasah is much more rational). 3) Dilruba has a pass for everything or what? I mean Mihrimah pretty much got away with everything by Suleiman and no one blamed her when she acted the hypocrite (except Selim and occasionally Fatma) but then Dilruba has another level of letting go as she does 500 times worse.
@Leo Yep I would pay I would pay dearly to see MC's Hurrem header see Kosem's opponents. She would surely have said to Kosem: first time? Dilruba is unbearable but at least she is dangerous oppent well-versed in politics (unlike Atike or even sometimes Mihrimah in Season 4)
@@nesiacha3659 Oh, I guess it was just me who hasn't seen people calling her out then. She's personally my least favorite after Rustam and Gulshah. I just can't stand her conceited, self-righteous, and hypocritical personality. I distinctly remember when Meharmah taunted Shah Khuban Sultan, saying that she hopes that getting Hurrem banished was worth her nephew Jahangir's tears. However, Meharmah herself never thought once about her nephew and niece Mehmed and Nargisshah's tears when stealing Mustafa's seal.
The malice in the palace, has not ended. The same or similar accusations against Kosem, like Hurrem. YOU DID THIS! Story line is practically like watching and listening to Magnificent Century.
Worst thing for a son to ask a mother like that. 😂 Both Ahamed and murad were not good to their mother and lived a short life due to so much anger, Stress. Both kill .
Who protected who, Kosem masterminded and engineered the entire thing, she knew very well once Dervish is caught Handan will also get caught up in his involvement over the late sultan's death. Therefore it Kosem who set up the trap for Dervish and Handan.
20:16? Lol???? The only imperial sultana in ottoman history that became valide sultan is mihrimah sultan, that's why she's the most powerful imperial princess and the only one to outrank a haseki (nurbanu). How dare humasha declare herself valide sultan??? Also, when there is a haseki, why humasha rules the harem??
@@ΔημΣΚ imperial sultans always had higher authority than haseki sultans,Any haseki sultan has to bow to any member of imperial family if they don’t then it’s considered a insult
Can we all just take a moment to appreciate beren saat's natural voice singing that lullaby in the start❤
Eternal Rest grant to Valide Handan Sultana O Lord, may the Perpetual Light shine upon her, may she Rest In Peace, Amen.
Halime is soooo beautiful ❤️
Bye Handan,you were the most butchered Ottoman historical character ever in the series.
Irl, Handan was a very influential woman (and part of sultanate of women),even though she was 2 years Valide Sultan, she had enormous influence on the state.
She exiled Safiye and dismiss all the corrupted people in the divan and harem,and replace it with her countrymen Bosnians,she formed a circle of loyal people for Ahmed(because Ahmed was the first sultan who ascended the throne without governing a province and childless).
She acted as co regent with Ahmed's teacher Mustafa Efendi and Yavuz Ali Pasa(the grand vizier).She organizid political meetings with Ahmed, Yavuz Ali Pasa and Mustafa Efendi at night(but Handan was in veil and spoke behind curtain),and also she made Ahmed famous at soldiers by advising him how to win their favour.
Also some had believed that Ahmed and Handan had bad relationship, because Handan as Valide received 1000 aspers(low compared to Safiye).But contrary, there is no proof that Ahmed had reduced her salary, but it's more Handan herself.
Why? Because previously when Mehmed III was sultan,and went to a campaign he made Safiye head of the treasury,and she increased her salary to 3000 aspers,which made the soldiers furious,and later there were riots against it and for other reasons too.
So Handan had done the opposite.
Handan died very early(in her mid 30's),because of digestive problems.
And some historians believe that there was genetic disorder because Ahmed I, Murad IV, Murad IV's sons, and also Suleiman II and others died of same problems and they had inherited from her.
The only thing which can be found some accuracy about Handan in the show is that she and Kosem really didn't get along and had bad relationship.
Murad lV died from Cirrhosis of the Liver, from his addiction to alcohol.
You're right, they butchered her in this series. Handan sultan was the first co-regent. She had way more power than Safiya ever had.
Ahmed only negative trait was the way he treated his mother ( just like Murat)😢😢 also wow amazing acting by Ahmed 👏👏👏👏 a mother will always be a boys first love even when he makes his own family he can always run to his mother because he knows he will always be her young cup
Murad treats Kosem fair considering she always tries to manipulate him.
@@farbodpirouz2457 wrong
@Leo Kasim wasn’t
Murad(show version) was the worst in treating his family(not only Kosem,but also his hasekis, brothers, sisters and etc).
Way worse than Suleiman and Ahmed.
Thankfully, real Murad and Ahmed respected and treated well their mothers.
@Leo oh yeah
First inconsistency how Ahmed managed to believe the daughter of his mother's enemy (Dilura) without any proof.
2) It's nice (ironic) to see that Kosem is blamed for everything bad that happens by Humasah (It must remind you of something in MC) who seems to me to see her in the first episodes as a cartoon villain (it must still remind you of someone although Humasah is much more rational).
3) Dilruba has a pass for everything or what? I mean Mihrimah pretty much got away with everything by Suleiman and no one blamed her when she acted the hypocrite (except Selim and occasionally Fatma) but then Dilruba has another level of letting go as she does 500 times worse.
@Leo Yep I would pay I would pay dearly to see MC's Hurrem header see Kosem's opponents. She would surely have said to Kosem: first time?
Dilruba is unbearable but at least she is dangerous oppent well-versed in politics (unlike Atike or even sometimes Mihrimah in Season 4)
Okay, finally people are talking about how Meharmah was a hypocrite.
@@Brin_Londo A lot of us talk about how big hypocrite she was against Mustafa, Selim and Nurbanu.
Like Leo said Mihrimah season 4 was a dissapointment
@@nesiacha3659 Oh, I guess it was just me who hasn't seen people calling her out then. She's personally my least favorite after Rustam and Gulshah. I just can't stand her conceited, self-righteous, and hypocritical personality. I distinctly remember when Meharmah taunted Shah Khuban Sultan, saying that she hopes that getting Hurrem banished was worth her nephew Jahangir's tears. However, Meharmah herself never thought once about her nephew and niece Mehmed and Nargisshah's tears when stealing Mustafa's seal.
The malice in the palace, has not ended. The same or similar accusations against Kosem, like Hurrem. YOU DID THIS! Story line is practically like watching and listening to Magnificent Century.
Worst thing for a son to ask a mother like that. 😂 Both Ahamed and murad were not good to their mother and lived a short life due to so much anger, Stress. Both kill .
Dilruba watch your words.
Kosem sultan protected handan but dilruba ended her.
Who protected who, Kosem masterminded and engineered the entire thing, she knew very well once Dervish is caught Handan will also get caught up in his involvement over the late sultan's death. Therefore it Kosem who set up the trap for Dervish and Handan.
@@dorajebanyjesudasan1491 no she protected both to hide it
Why should dilruba protect handan the women who is thirsty for blood of her little brother and always insults her mother Haseki halime sultan
@@SmartHd-hw3ty because handan is valide sultan
@@ΔημΣΚ But she is the weakest valide sultan Halime sultan and Dilruba are intelligent and powerful than handan
20:16? Lol???? The only imperial sultana in ottoman history that became valide sultan is mihrimah sultan, that's why she's the most powerful imperial princess and the only one to outrank a haseki (nurbanu). How dare humasha declare herself valide sultan??? Also, when there is a haseki, why humasha rules the harem??
Oh humasha you are wrong to face the haseki sultan. A valide sultan, a wannabe valide failed to
How dare humasha talks like that to haseki sultan? Under what right and authority?
Humasha is a ottoman princess,haseki sultans are slaves lmao
@@aha3652 and? Kosem sultan is ranked above humasha, humasha can't talk to her that way. Haseki sultan always outranks an imperial sultana
@@ΔημΣΚ imperial sultans always had higher authority than haseki sultans,Any haseki sultan has to bow to any member of imperial family if they don’t then it’s considered a insult
@@aha3652 nop, haseki sultans are above than imperial princesses, they have to bow to the haseki
@@ΔημΣΚ you have no historical knowledge
Finally the weakand crzyone is gone, bye handan no one will miss you
MANY Magnificent Century Kosem fans will miss Handan.
@@Maria-co9eg literally nobody