I had two PRIVs (due to theft and attempted theft) and I've gotta say, as someone who only uses Blackberries and only Blackberries in the smartphone era, it was the shittiest build quality of them all (and the rest are great). Damn things ended up squeaking like a hundred year old wooden floors when typing. The sharp edges had me thinking I could use them as ninja throwing stars. I still have a 'PRIV-mark' in some pairs of pants because it rubbed so sharply in the pocket that it wore a hole in one spot. The battery life was terrible. Barely a day when every other Blackberry I've had (RIM or TCL) lasts multiple days with ease.I had great hopes for the PRIV but they fucked that one up. It also got hot at times which never happens with any other. I wish they would do a modern Torch version. Loved those things.
Linus I gotta say this is one of your best reviews in months. You made me interested and entertained through a video where I already knew the conclusion. Keep being you, and I’ll keep coming back for great content.
I love this phone, though I am a mechanical keyboard junkie. I actually need this device to administrate servers on the go. Anyone who has ever logged into a Unix server using a mobile phone knows the woes of using a virtual keyboard. The period key is an easy fix, just make it where a double tap on the space bar puts in a period. The rest of the punctuation is easy to use, as the more you use something the better placement it is in the menu. It's a learning keyboard taking less than three days before you find your stride. You can hide the navigation buttons or move them completely using a simple app. Actually everything in this phone can be customized to your individual needs with ease. You just have to know how to do it, like spend some time reading, oh my gosh, the horror. In fact I am positive if I spent just 30 minutes with Linus I could have solved all of his issues. Everyone, I mean everyone who had this phone and didn't like it was because they really didn't know how to use it or didn't spend the time in making it into the ultimate tool. Which when you finially do, this phone is amazing, honest, no embellishment, just amazing. However and again, I'm an IT professional and I actually need a real keyboard. No, I dont want one, I need one. Virtual keyboards drive me insane when editing in VIM or navigating a Unix server 1000's of KM away. Heck, I even create scripts on my BB without issue. This phone isn't for everyone, it's a work phone, not for play and this is its biggest issue with most. If you need the ultimate communication device, this is it. If you watch tons of media and play games, look elsewhere. I do that stuff on a tablet with a connected game pad as a phone is just to small.
Eh. I've used my phone to ssh into servers, and the bigger issue was being able to read the terminal rather than typing and this doesn't seem like it would solve that. Anyway, I got an xps 13 for on the go sysadmining and it's so light and easy to tote around - even the PSU is tiny. Love it.
Get Hacker's Keyboard. It's better on a tablet/large screen, but even on smaller Androids is much better than stock for those that want a full keyboard experience.
belg4mit Tried it, not a fan, nothing beats a physical keyboard. I recently bought a Gemini PDA/Phone and installed Debian on it, it's a great mobile IT appliance, highly recommend one if your are an Uber geek like myself. Though for my daily routine, nothing beats the BB.
I am a Linux sysadmin but I see no advantage in having a physical keyboard. I am so used to soft keyboards, that I had to actually think about "pressing down" on the key the last time I tried a BB or an older Nokia phone. It caused me finger fatigue. That said, you need to find a good android keyboard and a good terminal app. I use ConnectBot and AOSP keyboard on LineageOS.
You do get software keyboards on Android that are a lot more friendly to programmers and bash'ers. Of course, you could always just get a bluetooth keyboard, Samsung made one that folds up and has a touch pad built in. It's really nice, has much larger keys as well.
*_"The Key2 is the sequel to the KeyOne. Eagerly awaited by literally dozens of people, this last-generation typing experience is sure to please even business executives who refuse to learn or experience anything new."_* So much anger and bitterness. You'd think BlackBerry hurt his whole family lol.
The primary use of a smartphone is not taking pictures and videos. For us blackberry users, what matters the most is quick access and input. I use my phone for calls, text, email, calendar, notes, passwords. My phone is a tool for me, it's not a time-wasting device with never ending distractions. The Classic has the best keyboard ever put on a smartphone. Probably as good as or even better than the one on the 8700. There are still users out there rocking the legendary 9900 almost ten years after its release, because it was and still is a superb communication device. Compact and light with all the essentials. Built to last. Differentiated form all the slabs of glass nowadays that are all so uninspiring, as if they were all designed by the same person. When you see an 8 year old carrying an iPhone, you know it's a toy/play device and not a real communication tool. It's a shame that BlackBerry decided to leave the smartphone market. OS10 was way ahead of its competitors, and to date, BlackBerry still has a huge user base. I'm still rocking the bold 9900 in rotation with the Classic and wouldn't give up these devices for nothing.
Hey Linus, Normally I find your reviews useful and insightful, however for this one I think you completely missed the point of this device, I believe you are not the target market for it in the least, as your review essentially says that your usage of a mobile phone is basically web browsing, taking photos and watching videos, probably some gaming as well, hardly the email-centric/ productivity minded business user. Allow me to explain how in the past 5 weeks of using the Key2 it has proven to be the phone that I needed for business uses. Some background context: I'm a 33 year old small business owner who specializes in large format printer and laser printer repair, I also supplement my income on weekends by cooking, what this leads to is what I have coined as "dead technician hands" while useful for unscrewing/tightening screws/bolts as well as taking food/pans out of a 350f+ oven barehanded it makes using an all touch device essentially impossible, standing over 6'2" I have large, leathery, calloused, " man hands" that have, historically, never worked right on an all touch phone, and it's not for my lack of trying them, iPhone 3G through 6+, Samsung Note's 2+3, Samsung Galaxy S5+S6+S7, LG G4, even ancient handsets like BlackBerry Z10, all had the same issue, the keyboards never register what I'm actually pressing, so a physical keyboard is a must have for a mobile device for me, I can't send a 1000+ word email on an all touch device without so many spelling and punctuation mistakes that it makes it appear as though I can't grasp basic English or care so little about spelling and punctuation that any C level executive I email would be unable to take me or my business seriously. Enter the Key2, a phone who's battery lasts from 630am to 100am reliably every day (yes, being self employed the hours can be very long), a phone that can easily accommodate the numerous emails I need to send every day to various customers with near zero spelling or grammatical errors, a phone that has an SD card slot so I can keep my 38Gb of service manuals on my phone for easy access. I am frequently sent confidential blueprints/proofs/documents as examples of print quality issues, knowing that security is still a major priority for BlackBerry's gives both me and my customers peace of mind. In the 5 weeks I've been using the Key2 I have spent the vast majority using it as it's intended, to communicate via phone, emails, text and social media, I have literally spent about 3 hours watching the odd show on Netflix, which as expected, wasn't as good of an experience as watching it on my TV or laptop. I don't play mobile games because, to be quite frank, they all pale in comparison to almost any PC/Xbox title. If you intend to play Fortnite or PUBG then of course this phone will not be the device for those specific situations, it was never intended to have users spend most of the day gaming/watching videos. The Key2 has always been intended as a business minded productivity device, comparing it to other "flagship devices" that are specifically designed around gaming and media consumption as their primary usages is like saying "this screwdriver makes a terrible hammer" or "these steel toed work boots make terrible scuba flippers", using a device not as it is intended and designed to be used will always provide a sub-par experience using said device. As for the fear of lacking updates, BlackBerry releases monthly security patches just like google, the carriers do not always push the updates, but that is not the fault of BlackBerry or TCL. The Priv (2015) launched with android 5, it was later upgraded to 6.0.1, the Keyone (2017) launched with 7.1 and has just been upgraded to 8.1, I see no reason why BlackBerry wouldn't provide at least 1 major OS upgrade like it has for its previous devices, unlike my Note 2 that started on 4.1 and never got upgraded past 4.4 and my galaxy S6 that is still on 7.0. Most devices seem to get updates for 2 years or so, regardless of manufacturer. Creating keyboard shortcuts combined with the "speed key" (the 9 dotted key beside sym) I can easily swap between any app without ever having to go "home" or scroll to find what app I want, I can jump from reading a PDF to my emails then to excel then to spotify then to Waze effortlessly with no "home" downtime. Also no one mentions that you can walk and type without looking at the device once you learn the keyboard, muscle memory is a real thing and it works beautifully with physical buttons, try accurately sending a long, well punctuated email without looking at your all touch devices on screen keyboard. This device is absolutely not for everyone, but as a business communication device it is the best phone I have ever used in that regard, sure my Note 2/S6 were better for watching Netflix or spending 10-15 minutes gaming, but that was about it, as communication devices they were sub par in almost all regards, call quality, message/text accuracy, ease of use, etc.
Allow me to TLDR for you then, if ~1000 (878 actual) words is to much to read this device is not designed with you in mind. If you use mobile phones as a communication tool and frequently type/read 1000+ word emails/blog posts/etc then it is likely a device designed and targeted at you
Wow, this actually makes it sound like the PERFECT phone for me, accustomed to the iPhone as I have been for the last five years. Easy-to-use communication and organization apps? Sweet! Tighter security? Hell yeah! Features that actually disincentivize content consumption so I'm not tempted to look at my phone as much as I would be with another smartphone? YES PLEASE. I'll have to keep this in mind when my current phone finally dies.
I think you made an interesting point, particularly at the end of your comment. "When my current phone finally dies" and not when my contract is up, which I think most people would say. My point is, you're probably right, it's a great phone for you for the reasons you mentioned, but buyers like you represent a very small segment of the market. Itll be interesting to see if BB continues to feel it's a large enough segment to continue targeting, but in the meantime, I hope you enjoy the phone!
Last I heard (a couple years ago) Google killed it by not allowing a 1:1 (square) aspect ratio in Android operating systems. Unfortunately, That's a pretty definitive death sentence for the BB Passport.
Idk about the software on the blackberry. But in Android you can just disable permissions you don't want it to have. That being said, I haven't used Facebook in years lol
@@pap4ja I mean, they're more secure in the way that detectives couldn't get any data off it but not secure in the sense that your data might be sent to the Chinese government or whatever
Speaking from a longer-term perspective: I've had the KeyONE as my phone for almost a year now. There are minor differences between this one and the Key2 but it seems they're mostly the same in the way they work. This has actually been my first BlackBerry phone so I don't have the before and after comparison from the old models to the new ones. I went from Nokias to iPhones (up until the iPhone 6S) and now to the Blackberry. Moving from the touch screen keyboard to the physical keyboard was nothing short of life-changing! I would estimate I make LESS than 10% of the typos that I used to make on a touch screen keyboard and I don't even make use of the more advanced features like the gestures or swipes. I agree that the camera leaves a lot to be desired after having come from the iPhones. Increasing exposure within the camera app sometimes helps a little but forget about any sort of movement in low light conditions. In comparison though: Battery life is incredible! As a small business owner I am on my phone all day, every day and rarely do I have to charge it before my usual nightly charge, even after a 12-15 hour working day. I don't even take a charger or cable with me anywhere. No chance of that on any of my previous iPhones. Not even close. Charge cables and portable batteries were my lifeblood! There are times that I do miss the way things work on an iPhone but that's more of an Android vs iOS can-of-worms that I'm not even going to attempt to delve in to here and now... I still haven't made up my mind as to whether I would stay with it or go back to an iPhone but on my current upgrade cycle I still have about another year to decide so that's future-me's problem to deal with :P
It's not for everyone but the keyboard shortcuts do allow you to navigate Android more efficiently than without. You didn't go into details about the SpeedKey and barely touched on the shortcuts, which make this phone like no other Android. I went from multiple all touch Androids to a KEYone and now have a hard time going back to an all touch. Yes, $650 is a rip off for the specs and subpar camera. But ~$400 for a Black Edition KEYone is acceptable to me.
yeah you can do more things with PKB, but you also can't do more things with pkb. Let say you can use shortcuts and mutitasking with the new key (that's it). but in order to have that you loose your screen real estate for contents and many more possibilities, you can't have dynamic keyboard that could change depens on what you're typing (I mostly typing japanese sometime). And mostly gesture based keyboard is done much better on VKB. DTEK app is just .... In non blackberry android, marshmallow and above, is simple to manage apps permission under setting-app.
Nasal Chain The DTEK app is not just about managing app permissions but also about monitoring what apps are actually with the permissions you granted them.
It's a serious phone for serious people. LOL. Phrase taken from Flossy Carter. I put video viewing secondary to customization and fast access to things I need to do. I type English only and prioritize accuracy over emojis and stickers. You can install your other VKBs and use the PKB at the same time (although no gesture features). So you're not missing anything. It depends on your priorities.
I use a blackberry. But more importantly, I use a PRIV. it has an oled display and is a great phone in every way except battery. i used a keyone and no, it isnt great. Its not terrible, but not great. If they revisited the priv, they'd have a good phone. Because the keyboard is totally optional and it only exists when you want it. its proper and fast and I try to use other phones but keep the priv as my daily driver
It doesnt feel slow. tho if you play a bunch of games i cant recomend it. it will slow it down but if you usually do smaller wifi based apps, its a great phone
Jonathan Slead im using LG V20 planing to get v40 or note 10 maybe if v40 disappointing I'll get upgrade next year. Im gonna use keyone for mostly whatsapp instagram, youtube that sort of things for gaming i think my v20 is more than enough for now, but the battery is killing me with 3.5hrs SoT or less(have to carry 2 batteries to get 6 hrs) so mostly I will use it for important messaging i don't do social media like fb or isntagram...what hold me not to buy it is because many reviewer said their keyone is slow time to time..... But with recent price drop i want to try it but idk if it worth it....
Laurent S it'd be great for that. It's great for Internet stuff. Better than iphones and the priv. So for you, the keyone would be a solid choice in my opinion
This makes me wonder, why didn't they just add a vertical sliding keyboard? What, did they think that people would feel like the phone is old? Newsflash, physical keyboards on phones are ALREADY old. They should have committed to 16:9/16:10
I am still using it..Its good enough for me...wish it had bigger screen .Even though it has its flaws I am going with BB.I am one of those who goes down with the ship..soon!
I think i can work with BB too. But, for Scrolling that my fingers have to reach higher than normal. And it is a concern as i have short fingers. So can you pls tell me, if there is a way where swipe actions against keyboard can be used for scrolling too?
@@Myfavquote yes you can scroll with the keyboard. you don't have to use the screen to scroll.(well actually you have to touch the screen once on some websites and then you can use the keyboard to scroll)suitable for small fingers. Here are all the features- ua-cam.com/video/2QbVNQTsWRM/v-deo.html
@@tendo_8969 This phone is made for work. Not only for selfies and watching Netflix. With physical keyboard you can write long emails, etc. Screen keyboad is good for LOL, whassup and WTF. Lot of people spend $1000 just for the name and he/she can show off. If someone bashes Blackberry, that means he/she never really used it. If there would not be automatic spell correction, lot of people would write even shorter emails and comments. Problem is, same people and kids belive that in life there is some auto spell check, so it is ok to be lazy, it is ok to be careless, etc. But that is another debate.
I just got the Key 2. I can see why most people wont like it . It needs a better camera , and those buttons between the keyboard and screen are a pain in the ass, but I had been using my BB Classic now for 4 years, and the battery was starting to give up. Coming from the Classic this seems like a Cadillac. I love a physical keyboard and right now this was my best option. I can do so much more with this phone than I could on my Classic . Maybe If I had used a glass slab the past 4 years I would feel the same way you do. Just glad BB is still in the game . p.s. Yes I watched the entire video knowing you were going to dump on it . :)
...as a user of BlackBerry's since a 7850 (Bold's, Z10/30 and a Passport up until 2022 and now a Keyone) I will say that if you live your life on a phone with games FB etc. then I'm sure other devices (my work Z30 was retired in 2022 as well, and I have a S21 now for work) will do. However, if you like me and just want to get in and out of the phone and put it back away then the BlackBerry's allow that better than any other device that I've tried. The VKB on the S21 for example is absolutely horrible compared to the VKB on the Z30 it replaced (BB's VKB is still far and away better than anyone else's). I just find that just picking up my BlackBerry to do what's needed it's just more focused especially the communications aspect. Some else pointed out that yes you have more 'real estate' for viewing web pages, but you don't lose that much, especially if your a 'one-handed' user the thicker bottom edge keeps your hands off the screen and having a capacitive keyboard keeps your fingers off the viewing space entirely. Another note regarding that keyboard is that if you've been a longtime BlackBerry user like myself you have.....BlackBerry thumbs so-to-speak and the Key series KB, albeit not as awesome as what was on the Bold 9900...it's still very good and takes up less room than a current VKB pop-up takes from any Android or iPhone equivalent. At the end of the day, yes it is an acquired taste...but even when I went from a Bold 9900 to a Z10 it took more that a month to get used to it (I suppose perhaps the entirely new OS in BB10, which is still hands down my favourite still)...and when I went back to keys on the Passport and now Keyone also took time to get back to something I had been used to. A PKB can be a little more 'difficult', but the trade off is accuracy and speed...and to me anyway is much more valuable.
Well...... I have average hands, but if you ever held a Priv and used its keyboard. I know the KeyOne was even bigger then the Priv. The Key2, is even bigger then the KeyOne. I own both a Priv and KeyOne, and from what I understand from what I seen in pictures in comparison to my KeyOne. I would imagine it would be useable for a person with big hands. Maybe check around a mall for one of those cell phone kiosks or go to a local cell phone provider and see if they have any on display for you to try!
I’ve been using a Key (Key1, Key2 Black and Key2 LE) for 3 years….best phones I have ever had ! Not to mention that it’s nice to be different. Can’t even tell the difference between an iphone and Samsung nowadays. Boring !
i use 4 different blackberrys.. might be because i administrate a blackberry server for the corporation i work for. My main is the BB-passport, and i rock a 9900 Bold when i'm out doing drinking.
@@BigRizza1 I've got one coming from the UK if you're still interested in knowing what it's like, currently on a Z10 myself, although I've used a modded S2, a Galaxy A5 and a BlackBerry Priv in the past. (4 years ago I used a Bold 9700 as my first phone out of high school)
@@fuzzyquils I must have bought one right after posting that comment, because I've been using a classic as my daily phone for months now. It's perfect for what I need, whatsapp still works too
Beautiful, because I got it as I wanted the best of both worlds; my spare Bold 9900 + the Z10's software as it basically does everything I need otherwise. Hoping covid doesn't delay delivery
@@fuzzyquils Same reasons as me pretty much although I was still using a curve! Shame about the state of BB today. BB world still works too, btw :) and waze for navigation
Typing on a touch screen is obviously superior, I mean, c'mon. That's why computer users don't use touch screens all that much, because they're so good.
I think the goodness of the Key2 in the body of the Priv would make for a pretty solid phone. I really like the design of the Priv, but it's internal hardware is a bit lacking, and it's the reverse for the key2.
😂😂 savage great to know that you liked it though. I've had iPhones for the last idk how many years but before switching, I was a BB lover and had 4 or 5 different BB phones.but now I am mentally and physically done with apple and its phones. ive had nothing but problems with them, not working properly, dealing with apple techs, etc. theyre not worth the money anymore. the new BB key 3 looks SO tempting!
You're wrong -- the hard keyboard on a Blackberry is still better than the soft keypad of everything else. I was just forced to switch from my beloved Blackberry to an iPhone11 and it's a nightmare.
I just bought a blackberry Priv about 1 1/2 months ago as a first time blackberry user and i have to say i'm gonna hold on to it as long i still feel its up to the job of modern apps. honestly the slider mechanism feels really solid, i love the physical / capacitive keyboard, and it's the fastest phone ive ever owned. and DTEK is really great at helping me keep my phone free and secure
i had to return mine, it kept overheating and draining all of the battery in 2 hours. I got the keyone after that, great phone, keyboard is way better.
I have the BlackBerry Priv and i actually like it (one great thing is how exclusive it is, people are always surprised to see the brand they thought disappeared). It has a proper keyboard which slides out from the bottom and the phone is not really thicker than competitors from the same era. I see no real benefit to Android 7 nougat, although i like to keep software up to date for security reasons.
Hlynur Stefánsson Actually Blackberry should have kept the same form factor , improved the keyboard and battery life , provided better software updates , added SD835 and called it a day for $650. That would have been amazing. This form factor has no relevance in 2018.
Oh yes, the Priv is the right form-factor, it also allows for on screen keyboard and physical, what ever you prefer (and something to hold on while you watch movies, i always do with the keyboard extended. The problem with all other smartphones is that they are one giant screen, no way to hold and watch movie in comfort, than the stupid notch which is almost dislike more than this 1/4 keyboard 3/4 screen on the Key2, but that form just looks silly, slide is the best.
Just pointing out the relentless marketing about innovation, there has been very little innovation in the phone market recently, every generation is 5-10% better than the last, but both phones will do the same thing, you will feel the difference between 2-4 generations of phones. You will learn that one day young man, not all new shiny things are better.
its all about comfort, and finding it hard to adapt to something new. I have been a BB user for 7 years, and i fell in love with the physical keyboard. I find it difficult to use full touch phones, just as u r finding it hard to learn the keyboard. the inaccuracy in typing and too much focus on the screen while typing on the screen keyboard, is just a discomfort for most BB users. I use the Keyone, and thats the best device i have bought in 2018. I hope they will never stop making devices with physical keyboards.
I have been a long time BB user, but the truth is that Blackberry for Android is no where near as good as the BB10 (minus the limited apps) OS... I'll stick to Android One devices from now on
I won't hold my breath, but I wouldn't say they're dead either... You would have said the same thing of Nokia 2-3 years ago and yet they're doing a pretty great comeback, they still aren't nearly as popular as they should be, but they'll get there
@@super-gerald I miss 8 track. The "kerchlunk, kerchlunk" as you chose what group of 4 songs to listen to... The entire cassette melting on the front seat... Three Dog Night never sounded so good.
I have both the BB Priv, and the Key2. I like the BB phones due to their physical keyboards. The BB phones look different from the sea of slate style phones that are currently on the market. Furthermore I find that typing is far easier on the BB keyboards. Having said that, I realize that BB is not for everyone and I respect, and thank you, for your review- well done.
I've had a lot of phones. And the key 2 is one of my favourites. I like an actual keyboard. Runs smooth and goes all day no problem without a charge. I take battery life over more powerful processor.
I agree with all of your thoughts - though I will buy this device for that! Media consumption on a phone? I am too old for that: 9" tablet, 13" Notebook, 50" Plasma. Never gamed on a smartphone since 2007.
I don't understand people who complain about video aspect ratio and such when it comes to phones. Who is actually watching entire movies on their phone? I never watch anything that's longer than about 7 minutes on my phone.
my co worker got one. she had one of those old black berry for like 6 years. so she wanted a blackberry she is like 60 ish. so its all new for her :) dont know the phone is fucking heavy. notr a fan
No it isn't my BB is lighter than my wifes S8 or my daughter S9. I don't need a second case around it that weighs even more. No one complains about the weight of their galaxy notes either. If you think the key2 is heavy get the key2 LE it uses carbon fibre instead of aluminum 156 grams. Galaxy s9 163 Grams.
Linus: complains about unintuitive scrolling on Key2 me, happy Key1 user: holds phone by the keyboard and rotates it to landscape to utilize the keyboard for scrolling seamlessly while display provides a lot of space for content
@@swapnilgarg6695 depends on what you classify as "worth"... blackberry is not as expensive as samsung/apple/oneplus or other brands, it comes with a lot of cool productivity and security features and an AMAZING keyboard... I don't need 8core CPU and 8GB RAM or w/e current phones come with, I don't use my phone for "gaming", I got a gaming PC for that, I don't need to spend 900eur on a 6" screen that discharges after 8 hours and barely fits in my hand, and I just hate typing on the screen, just like a lot of other people... just so we are clear, blackberry keyboards are unlike the keyboards on the old phones, they carry a LOT of useful functionality, are touch-sensitive and overall very, very useful and a pleasure to work with
This phone is not meant to be like most smart phones now. Yes you can use plenty of apps on it, game and watch content etc. Yet people who appreciate keyboard phones and phones that aren’t heavily focused on getting you to constantly stare at them are the ones who like blackberries. They weren’t meant to be something that you constantly scroll through. They have actual usage instead of just being an easy way to not pay attention to anything in the real world. I personally still have a torch 9810 and I love the trackpad and keyboard. I also have a flip phone that’s simple yet modern version so if I want to reduce my screen time I can. If I want to sort of unplug I can. I know older phones get a lot of hate because people throng their dumb or boring, but they still are better than what we have now. Especially if you don’t want to carry around a huge screen at a very high price point that might stop working or at least he immensely bogged down in a coupe of years time. Not to mention how much we all pay for said phones every month or even if you buy it outright. Screens break all the time so we get extra protection and insurance and all of that. Cases for these phones are also pretty spendy unless you get something cheap with obviously won’t really do much to help your phone. The screen keyboards get annoying. Software really kills the life of your phone or battery much quicker than it should. Companies purposely make you want a other phone when they start slowing down the one you’ve had for a short time or stop updating it. I shut up now, but I still love phones like this one. No matter how much people want to pick it apart or act like it’s obsolete. That’s only in comparison to smartphones that people are already used to. So at the end of the day it’s a matter of opinion and what you want to use a phone for.
Always used a blackberry cause it fits my taste. Well built, not designed like ever other phone out there. Very creative design. I had 3 Blackberrys and love them. Ty.
Let me just say that as somebody who has grown up surrounded by the corporate world, this device IS solely used by executives for communications; it’s purpose. You raised points about Ted Talks and taking pictures etc, however most executives have two phones. They use their iPhone for home, and their blackberry for work.
The price of this phone is too much though with the lack of features and poor quality specs over all. If it was 250 or 300$, then I'd be fine with that.
@@nathanpickering6742 Lack of features? Besides the Wireless Charging I don't see any other feature lacking out on this phone; I think you're looking some really particular features in this phone and it doesn't have those; if you're looking for privacy, security enhancements and a physical keyboard this is the phone for you, if you're looking a phone to watch Netflix, first you should be getting a 4K TV Screen but as this is too much to carry on daily basics you should buy a big screen factor phone like the XS MAX or S10. IMHO people consider that there preferences should be all other people preferences, everybody have their own. In my personal opinion, I don't fucking care about the camera on a phone and here I'm paying stupid $300-$500 extra for this "feature" on any current phone because nowadays people consider it an essential thing. Note: I have a Pixel 3 XL, Xiaomi Mi Mix 2s, iPhone 8, OnePlus 5(all those came out around the same time as the BBK2), and the Blackberry Key 2 perform better or equal to those phones in many situations.
Save the business men if this is what they are supposed to own. If you want a phone that is actually meant for business then go for the galaxy note series.
I have a Blackberry KeyOne. I love mine as a version1 of the concept of a modern blackberry, but the changes in this KeyTwo are just not well thought out. Currency key should be the period key. Why did the camera not improve much? Why give me a mid-grade processor if I'm also giving up camera quality? But worst of all, they didn't think about the on-screen buttons. Sure the shortcut button was a cool addition to swap apps through keybinds without going to the home screen or multi-tasking button....BUT THEN WHY DID THEY BOTHER TO KEEP THOSE BUTTONS? Home and back buttons could have been mapped somewhere on the keyboard. Multitasking button is completely pointless with the shortcut key. How did nobody at Blackberry think this through? If I press the shortcut button to switch apps with a hotkey, what's the point of the multitasking button? Just make the physical shortcut key do both and get rid of it. Make home a double tap of the shortcut button. Make room for a back button somewhere. Bam - done. Eliminated the need for the on-screen buttons and make more screen-estate as well as cleaned up the look. They just thought the idea of a button to quick-switch apps was cool, slapped it in, and stopped there - rather than thinking what other ways they can implement and innovate around it.
I'm still using a hacked version of the BlackBerry manager to use the keyboard, I'm sry but BlackBerry's on screen keyboard has been the best I have ever used
@@mbaha5196 www.xda-developers.com/install-blackberry-apps-launcher-keyboard-on-any-android-device-with-blackberry-manager-xda-spotlight/ this guy is a genius thats how, lolz
I don't think you're being fair here. This looks like a great option for people that need to open and edit documents on the go, maybe manage a blog or an online shop - not type messages and comments into youtube, twitter, snapchat and whatsapp. The keyboard sure looks like a downgrade compared to older Windows Mobile, Palm and Blackberry ones, not sure why they thought capacitive gestures over the keys would be better than their old ball joystick. The price includes the "2-300 dollar for-corporate" tax. Any chance you could find an android phone with physical keyboard that doesn't suck for consumers? Can anybody recommend one?
the blackberry is more of a professional device with many features for big companies. its meant for people who type many emails, memos and stuff like that in a buisness context. i mean a buisness laptop also costs more money for less performance because you have things like TPMs, hardware encryption modules, PXE support, etc. the blackberries are not meant for consumers, just like an IBM/Lenovo Thinkpad isnt.
I have a Priv with a slider -- a slideout keyboard isnt as great as it sounds. If you use a Blackberry device the vast majority of your activity involves typing on the hardware keyboard. It's easier to have the keyboard already there rather than flipping it upward and awkwardly holding a top-heavy device. The KeyOne and Key2 also have larger keys because they dont need the space to accommodate a slider mechanism.
JesdaG not a flip. A slide. Like the Samsung sidekick was. And that was perfectly acceptable to hold while typing, because it slid out the side rather than the bottom, in landscape mode
Used to be the case, but now it's just another Android phone but with a physical keypad. As linus says in the video virtual keyboards have gotten a lot better and with good touch precision & bigger screens today, it's not as hard to type on on-screen keyboards like those older smartphones with smaller screens. I guess most people who buy the modern BlackBerry buys it for either nostalgia or cz they come from a previous Blackberry phone.
my biggest gripe about modern phones is the on screen keybaord. i cant stand them but from your review i might get one i loved having a blackberry passort and blackberry Q10
My key 2 le is brilliant and I love it It's has slightly less features than the key2 but I think it's great (Although used a different launcher the in built BlackBerry launcher is a bit slow)
Linus: “it ended up like making love to a stranger”
Linus’s wife: what fuckery did you just articulate?
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"The reason for out divorce"
Who else watched this just because linus asked nicely ? :D
marvDE ME!!!!!!!
marvDE found the Canadians
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Me. I was like he has suffered for us
Sameee xD
This makes me think, why not add a sliding keyboard?
Make horizontal typing great again!
ahem *blackberry priv*
LG had a feature phone like that. I owned one and it was awesome.
I had two PRIVs (due to theft and attempted theft) and I've gotta say, as someone who only uses Blackberries and only Blackberries in the smartphone era, it was the shittiest build quality of them all (and the rest are great). Damn things ended up squeaking like a hundred year old wooden floors when typing. The sharp edges had me thinking I could use them as ninja throwing stars. I still have a 'PRIV-mark' in some pairs of pants because it rubbed so sharply in the pocket that it wore a hole in one spot. The battery life was terrible. Barely a day when every other Blackberry I've had (RIM or TCL) lasts multiple days with ease.I had great hopes for the PRIV but they fucked that one up. It also got hot at times which never happens with any other. I wish they would do a modern Torch version. Loved those things.
Fxtec pro 1 has a slider keyboard
LG Mach, Is my favorite phone of all time
dude, hit the space bar twice to get a period
also, use an adblock
Or buy a xiaomi/Huawei phone for lesser
He used it for a month and couldn't figure that out. 😂
Cool lil trick yeah?
@@hereb4theend To be fair, that's not an easy to find feature.
2:18 - When you think Linus is a teenager in 2010 only to realize he was 24.
Tony Stark Either way, his parents were paying for his phone.
I was typing it's the earrings when I realized he never got rid of them.
@@destituteanddecadent9106 Yeah i dont perticularly like the look of the earings but its EZ to just forget they exist
Linus I gotta say this is one of your best reviews in months. You made me interested and entertained through a video where I already knew the conclusion. Keep being you, and I’ll keep coming back for great content.
I love this phone, though I am a mechanical keyboard junkie. I actually need this device to administrate servers on the go. Anyone who has ever logged into a Unix server using a mobile phone knows the woes of using a virtual keyboard.
The period key is an easy fix, just make it where a double tap on the space bar puts in a period. The rest of the punctuation is easy to use, as the more you use something the better placement it is in the menu. It's a learning keyboard taking less than three days before you find your stride.
You can hide the navigation buttons or move them completely using a simple app. Actually everything in this phone can be customized to your individual needs with ease. You just have to know how to do it, like spend some time reading, oh my gosh, the horror. In fact I am positive if I spent just 30 minutes with Linus I could have solved all of his issues.
Everyone, I mean everyone who had this phone and didn't like it was because they really didn't know how to use it or didn't spend the time in making it into the ultimate tool. Which when you finially do, this phone is amazing, honest, no embellishment, just amazing.
However and again, I'm an IT professional and I actually need a real keyboard. No, I dont want one, I need one. Virtual keyboards drive me insane when editing in VIM or navigating a Unix server 1000's of KM away. Heck, I even create scripts on my BB without issue.
This phone isn't for everyone, it's a work phone, not for play and this is its biggest issue with most. If you need the ultimate communication device, this is it. If you watch tons of media and play games, look elsewhere. I do that stuff on a tablet with a connected game pad as a phone is just to small.
Eh. I've used my phone to ssh into servers, and the bigger issue was being able to read the terminal rather than typing and this doesn't seem like it would solve that. Anyway, I got an xps 13 for on the go sysadmining and it's so light and easy to tote around - even the PSU is tiny. Love it.
Get Hacker's Keyboard. It's better on a tablet/large screen, but even on smaller Androids is much better than stock for those that want a full keyboard experience.
belg4mit Tried it, not a fan, nothing beats a physical keyboard. I recently bought a Gemini PDA/Phone and installed Debian on it, it's a great mobile IT appliance, highly recommend one if your are an Uber geek like myself. Though for my daily routine, nothing beats the BB.
I am a Linux sysadmin but I see no advantage in having a physical keyboard. I am so used to soft keyboards, that I had to actually think about "pressing down" on the key the last time I tried a BB or an older Nokia phone. It caused me finger fatigue. That said, you need to find a good android keyboard and a good terminal app. I use ConnectBot and AOSP keyboard on LineageOS.
You do get software keyboards on Android that are a lot more friendly to programmers and bash'ers. Of course, you could always just get a bluetooth keyboard, Samsung made one that folds up and has a touch pad built in. It's really nice, has much larger keys as well.
*_"The Key2 is the sequel to the KeyOne. Eagerly awaited by literally dozens of people, this last-generation typing experience is sure to please even business executives who refuse to learn or experience anything new."_*
So much anger and bitterness. You'd think BlackBerry hurt his whole family lol.
I love my key2. It's unique, and it's a phone. If you want a mobile camera, a game platform, or a movie machine, it's not the phone for you.
@@fastestdino2 Linus literally writes emails and word documents for a living...
It’s not for business executives. It’s for nobody. That’s why it failed...
BananaRepublican It’s not the phone for anything.
...it may be 'last generation', but to me the PKB still kicks the pants off any VKB... unless it's a BB10 OS VKB, then it's fairly close.
You're one of the few English-speaking bloggers I can understand without subtitles. Greetings from Russia!
I guess Canadian English is more compatible to Russian then? haha
Same dude, Linus speaks so clear, i´m watching from south america
Александр Куприянов Were you featured in a portrait a morning?
Dylan Mayhew Its more formal with no slurs or slangs which is why its very easy to understand.
@@TheIdleCrow he doesn't use slang ....slang can really throw off ppl if English isn't there first language
i think it should become a macro phone instead of keyboard keys , Taran would love that
let this be top comment
Lol
I mean a modulus keyboard that enters an usb or something and it recognize it and resize the screen
Taran already has one. Or maybe three of those. I dunno. Probably. Maybe. Ish.
What's taran
But can it play fork knife?
What's fork knife
Marx *fornite
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The primary use of a smartphone is not taking pictures and videos. For us blackberry users, what matters the most is quick access and input. I use my phone for calls, text, email, calendar, notes, passwords. My phone is a tool for me, it's not a time-wasting device with never ending distractions. The Classic has the best keyboard ever put on a smartphone. Probably as good as or even better than the one on the 8700. There are still users out there rocking the legendary 9900 almost ten years after its release, because it was and still is a superb communication device. Compact and light with all the essentials. Built to last. Differentiated form all the slabs of glass nowadays that are all so uninspiring, as if they were all designed by the same person. When you see an 8 year old carrying an iPhone, you know it's a toy/play device and not a real communication tool. It's a shame that BlackBerry decided to leave the smartphone market. OS10 was way ahead of its competitors, and to date, BlackBerry still has a huge user base. I'm still rocking the bold 9900 in rotation with the Classic and wouldn't give up these devices for nothing.
Nick K Agreed a 100%
I only watched because Linus asked so nicely
Ethan LaHood me too :D. And I suffered as promised
Linus has just confirmed in my head that he is a masochist
joekandiell.blogspot.com/2018/08/internal-wars-poem.html
Imagine his wife in BDSM Mistress gear
I've been thinking the same for a while, the suit she wore in one of the vids just basically confirmed it for me
wtf is this subcomment section? lmao
Anyone else google was masochist is 😂😂
Hey Linus,
Normally I find your reviews useful and insightful, however for this one I think you completely missed the point of this device, I believe you are not the target market for it in the least, as your review essentially says that your usage of a mobile phone is basically web browsing, taking photos and watching videos, probably some gaming as well, hardly the email-centric/ productivity minded business user.
Allow me to explain how in the past 5 weeks of using the Key2 it has proven to be the phone that I needed for business uses.
Some background context: I'm a 33 year old small business owner who specializes in large format printer and laser printer repair, I also supplement my income on weekends by cooking, what this leads to is what I have coined as "dead technician hands" while useful for unscrewing/tightening screws/bolts as well as taking food/pans out of a 350f+ oven barehanded it makes using an all touch device essentially impossible, standing over 6'2" I have large, leathery, calloused, " man hands" that have, historically, never worked right on an all touch phone, and it's not for my lack of trying them, iPhone 3G through 6+, Samsung Note's 2+3, Samsung Galaxy S5+S6+S7, LG G4, even ancient handsets like BlackBerry Z10, all had the same issue, the keyboards never register what I'm actually pressing, so a physical keyboard is a must have for a mobile device for me, I can't send a 1000+ word email on an all touch device without so many spelling and punctuation mistakes that it makes it appear as though I can't grasp basic English or care so little about spelling and punctuation that any C level executive I email would be unable to take me or my business seriously.
Enter the Key2, a phone who's battery lasts from 630am to 100am reliably every day (yes, being self employed the hours can be very long), a phone that can easily accommodate the numerous emails I need to send every day to various customers with near zero spelling or grammatical errors, a phone that has an SD card slot so I can keep my 38Gb of service manuals on my phone for easy access. I am frequently sent confidential blueprints/proofs/documents as examples of print quality issues, knowing that security is still a major priority for BlackBerry's gives both me and my customers peace of mind.
In the 5 weeks I've been using the Key2 I have spent the vast majority using it as it's intended, to communicate via phone, emails, text and social media, I have literally spent about 3 hours watching the odd show on Netflix, which as expected, wasn't as good of an experience as watching it on my TV or laptop. I don't play mobile games because, to be quite frank, they all pale in comparison to almost any PC/Xbox title. If you intend to play Fortnite or PUBG then of course this phone will not be the device for those specific situations, it was never intended to have users spend most of the day gaming/watching videos. The Key2 has always been intended as a business minded productivity device, comparing it to other "flagship devices" that are specifically designed around gaming and media consumption as their primary usages is like saying "this screwdriver makes a terrible hammer" or "these steel toed work boots make terrible scuba flippers", using a device not as it is intended and designed to be used will always provide a sub-par experience using said device.
As for the fear of lacking updates, BlackBerry releases monthly security patches just like google, the carriers do not always push the updates, but that is not the fault of BlackBerry or TCL. The Priv (2015) launched with android 5, it was later upgraded to 6.0.1, the Keyone (2017) launched with 7.1 and has just been upgraded to 8.1, I see no reason why BlackBerry wouldn't provide at least 1 major OS upgrade like it has for its previous devices, unlike my Note 2 that started on 4.1 and never got upgraded past 4.4 and my galaxy S6 that is still on 7.0. Most devices seem to get updates for 2 years or so, regardless of manufacturer.
Creating keyboard shortcuts combined with the "speed key" (the 9 dotted key beside sym) I can easily swap between any app without ever having to go "home" or scroll to find what app I want, I can jump from reading a PDF to my emails then to excel then to spotify then to Waze effortlessly with no "home" downtime.
Also no one mentions that you can walk and type without looking at the device once you learn the keyboard, muscle memory is a real thing and it works beautifully with physical buttons, try accurately sending a long, well punctuated email without looking at your all touch devices on screen keyboard.
This device is absolutely not for everyone, but as a business communication device it is the best phone I have ever used in that regard, sure my Note 2/S6 were better for watching Netflix or spending 10-15 minutes gaming, but that was about it, as communication devices they were sub par in almost all regards, call quality, message/text accuracy, ease of use, etc.
What in the fuck... You really think someone will read all that? Nice try Blackberry CEO
Allow me to TLDR for you then, if ~1000 (878 actual) words is to much to read this device is not designed with you in mind. If you use mobile phones as a communication tool and frequently type/read 1000+ word emails/blog posts/etc then it is likely a device designed and targeted at you
Oh I read your little essay, you're just wrong on so many points it's laughable you're trying to call them out
You claim that I am incorrect on "so many points", it would be great if you would elaborate on which points are "just wrong"
A wise man once said "Don't argue with stupid cause they will never ever get it".
everyone: a fixed keyboard? That sux
Taran: MACROS ON A PHONE!?!?!?
Great phone! Really good battery life, great typing experience, secure, usbc, finger print reader and nfc. Does everything I need and really enjoy it.
Yah it's great
@@Bewildering_Man Because it has a physical keyboard. "Once you go black... I mean physical keyboard, you never go back."
@@m19710310 virtual is much better
@@dnhn.design I like girls. I understand some people like boys, we are different, I accept.
@@dnhn.design Not in terms of accuracy and general enjoyment.
"I love typing on my glass slab all day long!"
-Said no one ever
Wow, this actually makes it sound like the PERFECT phone for me, accustomed to the iPhone as I have been for the last five years. Easy-to-use communication and organization apps? Sweet! Tighter security? Hell yeah! Features that actually disincentivize content consumption so I'm not tempted to look at my phone as much as I would be with another smartphone? YES PLEASE. I'll have to keep this in mind when my current phone finally dies.
I think you made an interesting point, particularly at the end of your comment. "When my current phone finally dies" and not when my contract is up, which I think most people would say. My point is, you're probably right, it's a great phone for you for the reasons you mentioned, but buyers like you represent a very small segment of the market. Itll be interesting to see if BB continues to feel it's a large enough segment to continue targeting, but in the meantime, I hope you enjoy the phone!
It’s a great phone! It’s a tool not an entertainment piece. Battery is great, keyboard is great also
Chef Dad it’s doink
Jack Coleman I am very pleased with BB key2
This actually convinced me to buy this Blackberry.
Me too 😂
I’m laughing hard
Any iphone lover is just a waste of oxygen. Apple ysers have always been non contributing, vapid group of social media morons.
Slider drago chill out
dont...
I’m thinking about getting a flip phone. I feel like my smart phone is distracting me from important things in life
@Alex Edwin My mother texted me when my father died.
Bruh buy the BlackBerry you will never want to use a phone again
@Alex Edwin small things are important
I just broke my Moto G5 and had to use a flip phone for a week before upgrading to a Moto G8+. It was genuinely a nice disconnect for a week
David Rodriguez Or you know just use your phone less? Fucking dumbass.
I got the black berry key 2 advertisment on this video lol
Same
Kamel Awad I’m pretty sure they dont do youtube ads
shadowclaw well i guess they did
shadowclaw well, and what‘s that at minute 2:05 and 6:55 in this Video?
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I'm still holding out for an Android-based BB Passport.
It's probably never going to happen, but I can still hope.
I heard it is in works. Would love that keyboard. Best keyboard ever
Last I heard (a couple years ago) Google killed it by not allowing a 1:1 (square) aspect ratio in Android operating systems. Unfortunately, That's a pretty definitive death sentence for the BB Passport.
passport is one of the best blackberry devices :) and I still waiting for that
I'm still rocking mine. I wish I had purchased an SE before they got stupidly expensive.
gosh saaammmmme
8:14 - Acts like he cares about security, has the Facebook app installed.
Idk about the software on the blackberry. But in Android you can just disable permissions you don't want it to have.
That being said, I haven't used Facebook in years lol
@@TheB0sss theres also the fact that in samsung phones, you cant really uninstall facebook
@@sininenblue9161 if you're a person interested in the best security you wouldn't have a Samsung
Grand Admiral Thrawn i hope that’s a joke.
@@pap4ja I mean, they're more secure in the way that detectives couldn't get any data off it but not secure in the sense that your data might be sent to the Chinese government or whatever
"if you really like Blackberrys"
Mr Mobile has entered the chat
Speaking from a longer-term perspective: I've had the KeyONE as my phone for almost a year now. There are minor differences between this one and the Key2 but it seems they're mostly the same in the way they work. This has actually been my first BlackBerry phone so I don't have the before and after comparison from the old models to the new ones. I went from Nokias to iPhones (up until the iPhone 6S) and now to the Blackberry.
Moving from the touch screen keyboard to the physical keyboard was nothing short of life-changing! I would estimate I make LESS than 10% of the typos that I used to make on a touch screen keyboard and I don't even make use of the more advanced features like the gestures or swipes.
I agree that the camera leaves a lot to be desired after having come from the iPhones. Increasing exposure within the camera app sometimes helps a little but forget about any sort of movement in low light conditions. In comparison though: Battery life is incredible! As a small business owner I am on my phone all day, every day and rarely do I have to charge it before my usual nightly charge, even after a 12-15 hour working day. I don't even take a charger or cable with me anywhere. No chance of that on any of my previous iPhones. Not even close. Charge cables and portable batteries were my lifeblood!
There are times that I do miss the way things work on an iPhone but that's more of an Android vs iOS can-of-worms that I'm not even going to attempt to delve in to here and now... I still haven't made up my mind as to whether I would stay with it or go back to an iPhone but on my current upgrade cycle I still have about another year to decide so that's future-me's problem to deal with :P
It's not for everyone but the keyboard shortcuts do allow you to navigate Android more efficiently than without. You didn't go into details about the SpeedKey and barely touched on the shortcuts, which make this phone like no other Android.
I went from multiple all touch Androids to a KEYone and now have a hard time going back to an all touch. Yes, $650 is a rip off for the specs and subpar camera. But ~$400 for a Black Edition KEYone is acceptable to me.
There's a Keytwo LE (light édition) and cheaper coming out soon
yeah you can do more things with PKB, but you also can't do more things with pkb. Let say you can use shortcuts and mutitasking with the new key (that's it). but in order to have that you loose your screen real estate for contents and many more possibilities, you can't have dynamic keyboard that could change depens on what you're typing (I mostly typing japanese sometime). And mostly gesture based keyboard is done much better on VKB.
DTEK app is just .... In non blackberry android, marshmallow and above, is simple to manage apps permission under setting-app.
Nasal Chain The DTEK app is not just about managing app permissions but also about monitoring what apps are actually with the permissions you granted them.
Yeah I know. In android you not only can show the each app's permissin, you can also see all your running permissions that being use by your apps
It's a serious phone for serious people. LOL. Phrase taken from Flossy Carter. I put video viewing secondary to customization and fast access to things I need to do. I type English only and prioritize accuracy over emojis and stickers. You can install your other VKBs and use the PKB at the same time (although no gesture features). So you're not missing anything. It depends on your priorities.
I use a blackberry. But more importantly, I use a PRIV. it has an oled display and is a great phone in every way except battery. i used a keyone and no, it isnt great. Its not terrible, but not great. If they revisited the priv, they'd have a good phone. Because the keyboard is totally optional and it only exists when you want it. its proper and fast and I try to use other phones but keep the priv as my daily driver
Hey is your keyone slowing down?are they fix it already? I wanna get keyone since it's cheap right now as my 2ndary devices... Thx
It doesnt feel slow. tho if you play a bunch of games i cant recomend it. it will slow it down but if you usually do smaller wifi based apps, its a great phone
What are you using now?
Jonathan Slead im using LG V20 planing to get v40 or note 10 maybe if v40 disappointing I'll get upgrade next year.
Im gonna use keyone for mostly whatsapp instagram, youtube that sort of things for gaming i think my v20 is more than enough for now, but the battery is killing me with 3.5hrs SoT or less(have to carry 2 batteries to get 6 hrs) so mostly I will use it for important messaging i don't do social media like fb or isntagram...what hold me not to buy it is because many reviewer said their keyone is slow time to time..... But with recent price drop i want to try it but idk if it worth it....
Laurent S it'd be great for that. It's great for Internet stuff. Better than iphones and the priv. So for you, the keyone would be a solid choice in my opinion
This makes me wonder, why didn't they just add a vertical sliding keyboard? What, did they think that people would feel like the phone is old? Newsflash, physical keyboards on phones are ALREADY old. They should have committed to 16:9/16:10
I can't wait for the key3 to have cherry MX switches!
Watching this again because I missing my blackberry and BBM!
I am still using it..Its good enough for me...wish it had bigger screen .Even though it has its flaws I am going with BB.I am one of those who goes down with the ship..soon!
I think i can work with BB too. But, for Scrolling that my fingers have to reach higher than normal. And it is a concern as i have short fingers.
So can you pls tell me, if there is a way where swipe actions against keyboard can be used for scrolling too?
@@Myfavquote yes you can scroll with the keyboard. you don't have to use the screen to scroll.(well actually you have to touch the screen once on some websites and then you can use the keyboard to scroll)suitable for small fingers.
Here are all the features-
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2010 Linus looks exactly like an iphone owner
when I see what kind of people dont like this phone I confirm is for me,
Soooo true...
LOL, YESSSSSS
And why is that?
@@tendo_8969 This phone is made for work. Not only for selfies and watching Netflix. With physical keyboard you can write long emails, etc. Screen keyboad is good for LOL, whassup and WTF. Lot of people spend $1000 just for the name and he/she can show off. If someone bashes Blackberry, that means he/she never really used it. If there would not be automatic spell correction, lot of people would write even shorter emails and comments. Problem is, same people and kids belive that in life there is some auto spell check, so it is ok to be lazy, it is ok to be careless, etc. But that is another debate.
@@m19710310 I definitely get your point here but, it seems so difficult having to type on blackberry keyboard when you have big hands.
jeezo? he's scrolling up with his thumb on the screen instead of using the keyboard as a scroll pad????
I just got the Key 2. I can see why most people wont like it . It needs a better camera , and those buttons between the keyboard and screen are a pain in the ass, but I had been using my BB Classic now for 4 years, and the battery was starting to give up. Coming from the Classic this seems like a Cadillac. I love a physical keyboard and right now this was my best option. I can do so much more with this phone than I could on my Classic . Maybe If I had used a glass slab the past 4 years I would feel the same way you do. Just glad BB is still in the game . p.s. Yes I watched the entire video knowing you were going to dump on it . :)
...as a user of BlackBerry's since a 7850 (Bold's, Z10/30 and a Passport up until 2022 and now a Keyone) I will say that if you live your life on a phone with games FB etc. then I'm sure other devices (my work Z30 was retired in 2022 as well, and I have a S21 now for work) will do. However, if you like me and just want to get in and out of the phone and put it back away then the BlackBerry's allow that better than any other device that I've tried. The VKB on the S21 for example is absolutely horrible compared to the VKB on the Z30 it replaced (BB's VKB is still far and away better than anyone else's).
I just find that just picking up my BlackBerry to do what's needed it's just more focused especially the communications aspect. Some else pointed out that yes you have more 'real estate' for viewing web pages, but you don't lose that much, especially if your a 'one-handed' user the thicker bottom edge keeps your hands off the screen and having a capacitive keyboard keeps your fingers off the viewing space entirely. Another note regarding that keyboard is that if you've been a longtime BlackBerry user like myself you have.....BlackBerry thumbs so-to-speak and the Key series KB, albeit not as awesome as what was on the Bold 9900...it's still very good and takes up less room than a current VKB pop-up takes from any Android or iPhone equivalent.
At the end of the day, yes it is an acquired taste...but even when I went from a Bold 9900 to a Z10 it took more that a month to get used to it (I suppose perhaps the entirely new OS in BB10, which is still hands down my favourite still)...and when I went back to keys on the Passport and now Keyone also took time to get back to something I had been used to.
A PKB can be a little more 'difficult', but the trade off is accuracy and speed...and to me anyway is much more valuable.
Great so blackberry made a phone that should work for me but doesn't because i have huge hands. Damnit.
Well...... I have average hands, but if you ever held a Priv and used its keyboard. I know the KeyOne was even bigger then the Priv.
The Key2, is even bigger then the KeyOne.
I own both a Priv and KeyOne, and from what I understand from what I seen in pictures in comparison to my KeyOne.
I would imagine it would be useable for a person with big hands.
Maybe check around a mall for one of those cell phone kiosks or go to a local cell phone provider and see if they have any on display for you to try!
It would probably work great for you.
Maybe we can ask for one? Or some other brand makes a phone that addresses this issues, and others
Try it in a store if you see one. We have a KEYone on display at my local Best Buy, KEY2 has 25% larger keys.
How did they mess up the keyboard?! Blackberry, you muppets!
I have keyone for a year and i am happy with it, dtek already saved me once from malicious app.
Blackberry is the ja rule of smartphones.... It just won't go away.
I’ve been using a Key (Key1, Key2 Black and Key2 LE) for 3 years….best phones I have ever had ! Not to mention that it’s nice to be different. Can’t even tell the difference between an iphone and Samsung nowadays. Boring !
Blackberry is still transitioning. They're doing well on Android but I'm sure their next phone will be much better.
Blackberry isn't a company anymore, they are made by TCL under that name.
That their last phone I'm pretty sure
There is no next phone, dude. Game over
They failed
@@InternetUser-d7s look again
My main issue is the price point of the device... I think it should have come in at about $450-$500 USD considering its chip set
i use 4 different blackberrys.. might be because i administrate a blackberry server for the corporation i work for.
My main is the BB-passport, and i rock a 9900 Bold when i'm out doing drinking.
What do you think of the classic/Q20?
@@BigRizza1 I've got one coming from the UK if you're still interested in knowing what it's like, currently on a Z10 myself, although I've used a modded S2, a Galaxy A5 and a BlackBerry Priv in the past. (4 years ago I used a Bold 9700 as my first phone out of high school)
@@fuzzyquils I must have bought one right after posting that comment, because I've been using a classic as my daily phone for months now. It's perfect for what I need, whatsapp still works too
Beautiful, because I got it as I wanted the best of both worlds; my spare Bold 9900 + the Z10's software as it basically does everything I need otherwise. Hoping covid doesn't delay delivery
@@fuzzyquils Same reasons as me pretty much although I was still using a curve! Shame about the state of BB today. BB world still works too, btw :) and waze for navigation
Typing on a touch screen is obviously superior, I mean, c'mon. That's why computer users don't use touch screens all that much, because they're so good.
I think the goodness of the Key2 in the body of the Priv would make for a pretty solid phone. I really like the design of the Priv, but it's internal hardware is a bit lacking, and it's the reverse for the key2.
I wonder how plausible it is to put one into the other.
Had the KeyOne for two years now. Great phone. The screen fell off but i glued it back on.
😂😂 savage
great to know that you liked it though. I've had iPhones for the last idk how many years but before switching, I was a BB lover and had 4 or 5 different BB phones.but now I am mentally and physically done with apple and its phones. ive had nothing but problems with them, not working properly, dealing with apple techs, etc. theyre not worth the money anymore. the new BB key 3 looks SO tempting!
You're going to tell me the "neighbor kid" knew what the Hell a Blackberry was? That's honestly astonishing.
You're wrong -- the hard keyboard on a Blackberry is still better than the soft keypad of everything else. I was just forced to switch from my beloved Blackberry to an iPhone11 and it's a nightmare.
why is it better ?
I just bought a blackberry Priv about 1 1/2 months ago as a first time blackberry user and i have to say i'm gonna hold on to it as long i still feel its up to the job of modern apps. honestly the slider mechanism feels really solid, i love the physical / capacitive keyboard, and it's the fastest phone ive ever owned. and DTEK is really great at helping me keep my phone free and secure
i had to return mine, it kept overheating and draining all of the battery in 2 hours. I got the keyone after that, great phone, keyboard is way better.
how is it?
Did he say ChatSnap?? (3:12)
right?
That's hilarious
He's taking the piss out of losers that use snapchat.
Rabbi Shekelberg. Or you and Linus are old?
acdc14terrace nah Snapchat users are just generic in general
I have the BlackBerry Priv and i actually like it (one great thing is how exclusive it is, people are always surprised to see the brand they thought disappeared). It has a proper keyboard which slides out from the bottom and the phone is not really thicker than competitors from the same era. I see no real benefit to Android 7 nougat, although i like to keep software up to date for security reasons.
Hlynur Stefánsson Actually Blackberry should have kept the same form factor , improved the keyboard and battery life , provided better software updates , added SD835 and called it a day for $650. That would have been amazing.
This form factor has no relevance in 2018.
Oh yes, the Priv is the right form-factor, it also allows for on screen keyboard and physical, what ever you prefer (and something to hold on while you watch movies, i always do with the keyboard extended. The problem with all other smartphones is that they are one giant screen, no way to hold and watch movie in comfort, than the stupid notch which is almost dislike more than this 1/4 keyboard 3/4 screen on the Key2, but that form just looks silly, slide is the best.
congrats old man
Just pointing out the relentless marketing about innovation, there has been very little innovation in the phone market recently, every generation is 5-10% better than the last, but both phones will do the same thing, you will feel the difference between 2-4 generations of phones. You will learn that one day young man, not all new shiny things are better.
We all wish for a PRIV 2 ... (typing from my BlackBerry Priv)
Using it for over 6 months and still happy about it. Robust, smooth fast, good (enough) photos, and of course the keyboard !
Only the tcl general conditions coming with the update are horrible, blackberry unworthy, selling your soul, not updated, biggest reason not to buy !
Is this a new trend for tech UA-camrs to put hands on their faces in the thumbnails?
Lol even John from technobuffalo was doing the same hand-on-face pose in his thumbnail from his most recent video. Somehow it draws more views?
coffee keeps me going their clickbait-ish... adds some drama
it's called a "facepalm"
Yup. It's the new small red circle with an arrow pointing at it
Is it a new trend that douchebags whinge at every little thing they see online?
I can't stand these thumbnails were people facepalm themselves for attention
whoring is life
Still loving this phone
its all about comfort, and finding it hard to adapt to something new. I have been a BB user for 7 years, and i fell in love with the physical keyboard. I find it difficult to use full touch phones, just as u r finding it hard to learn the keyboard. the inaccuracy in typing and too much focus on the screen while typing on the screen keyboard, is just a discomfort for most BB users. I use the Keyone, and thats the best device i have bought in 2018. I hope they will never stop making devices with physical keyboards.
I have been a long time BB user, but the truth is that Blackberry for Android is no where near as good as the BB10 (minus the limited apps) OS... I'll stick to Android One devices from now on
BB10 is dead and gone just forget about it it's better just forgotten
I won't hold my breath, but I wouldn't say they're dead either... You would have said the same thing of Nokia 2-3 years ago and yet they're doing a pretty great comeback, they still aren't nearly as popular as they should be, but they'll get there
BB10 is dead, CEO Chen killed it, there's no-one left at BB who can develop for it. There's a better chance of 8 track tapes coming back than BB10.
Gerald Tomyn I think he misread BB10 as BB and thought you were speaking about the entire company
@@super-gerald
I miss 8 track. The "kerchlunk, kerchlunk" as you chose what group of 4 songs to listen to...
The entire cassette melting on the front seat...
Three Dog Night never sounded so good.
I have both the BB Priv, and the Key2. I like the BB phones due to their physical keyboards. The BB phones look different from the sea of slate style phones that are currently on the market. Furthermore I find that typing is far easier on the BB keyboards. Having said that, I realize that BB is not for everyone and I respect, and thank you, for your review- well done.
I've had a lot of phones. And the key 2 is one of my favourites. I like an actual keyboard. Runs smooth and goes all day no problem without a charge. I take battery life over more powerful processor.
Still using my Keyone black edition and I love it. Some people just love the exclusively and the feel of a tactical keyboard.....
Im watching this video from the same phone your talking about 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
So you spend a lot of time typing those emojis
Sad life, i mean the touchscreen keyboard here is a mess and i hate it. How bout yours? Any difference?
@@khachaturdallakyan6005 the sym key pulls up all of the emojis
Do you like the phone?
After seeing this video I desperately wanted to get key 2. 😍
I agree with all of your thoughts - though I will buy this device for that!
Media consumption on a phone? I am too old for that: 9" tablet, 13" Notebook, 50" Plasma. Never gamed on a smartphone since 2007.
I don't understand people who complain about video aspect ratio and such when it comes to phones. Who is actually watching entire movies on their phone? I never watch anything that's longer than about 7 minutes on my phone.
IGN review: 6/10 too many keys
leonthesleepy 6.5/10 wrong use of meme
Darn, i'll get them next time boss!
leonthesleepy I didn't see Riley in this video once?
was it really ign's review?
too many? I'd say not enough.
So a screen on a blackberry with playstore
This is a phone for old school people
Too expensive
the true blackberry was much better. better keyboard, better experience.
I say it's trash
my co worker got one. she had one of those old black berry for like 6 years. so she wanted a blackberry she is like 60 ish. so its all new for her :) dont know the phone is fucking heavy. notr a fan
No it isn't my BB is lighter than my wifes S8 or my daughter S9. I don't need a second case around it that weighs even more. No one complains about the weight of their galaxy notes either. If you think the key2 is heavy get the key2 LE it uses carbon fibre instead of aluminum 156 grams. Galaxy s9 163 Grams.
Linus: complains about unintuitive scrolling on Key2
me, happy Key1 user: holds phone by the keyboard and rotates it to landscape to utilize the keyboard for scrolling seamlessly while display provides a lot of space for content
You sound like an employee
@@pravda9646 nah, I sound like someone who actually can use the tech... so much for linus 'tech tips'
SEnergy You’re disgusting.
Why though?
Why get the key?
Its not really worth for most people
@@swapnilgarg6695 depends on what you classify as "worth"... blackberry is not as expensive as samsung/apple/oneplus or other brands, it comes with a lot of cool productivity and security features and an AMAZING keyboard... I don't need 8core CPU and 8GB RAM or w/e current phones come with, I don't use my phone for "gaming", I got a gaming PC for that, I don't need to spend 900eur on a 6" screen that discharges after 8 hours and barely fits in my hand, and I just hate typing on the screen, just like a lot of other people... just so we are clear, blackberry keyboards are unlike the keyboards on the old phones, they carry a LOT of useful functionality, are touch-sensitive and overall very, very useful and a pleasure to work with
This phone is not meant to be like most smart phones now. Yes you can use plenty of apps on it, game and watch content etc. Yet people who appreciate keyboard phones and phones that aren’t heavily focused on getting you to constantly stare at them are the ones who like blackberries. They weren’t meant to be something that you constantly scroll through. They have actual usage instead of just being an easy way to not pay attention to anything in the real world. I personally still have a torch 9810 and I love the trackpad and keyboard. I also have a flip phone that’s simple yet modern version so if I want to reduce my screen time I can. If I want to sort of unplug I can. I know older phones get a lot of hate because people throng their dumb or boring, but they still are better than what we have now. Especially if you don’t want to carry around a huge screen at a very high price point that might stop working or at least he immensely bogged down in a coupe of years time. Not to mention how much we all pay for said phones every month or even if you buy it outright. Screens break all the time so we get extra protection and insurance and all of that. Cases for these phones are also pretty spendy unless you get something cheap with obviously won’t really do much to help your phone. The screen keyboards get annoying. Software really kills the life of your phone or battery much quicker than it should. Companies purposely make you want a other phone when they start slowing down the one you’ve had for a short time or stop updating it. I shut up now, but I still love phones like this one. No matter how much people want to pick it apart or act like it’s obsolete. That’s only in comparison to smartphones that people are already used to. So at the end of the day it’s a matter of opinion and what you want to use a phone for.
Why the hell you still scrolling using the touchscreen??
my guy just plugged in a pair of 250 ohm headphones into a blackberry, i bet it sounded..... Fantastic 😍
2:15
I find it hard to believe that Linus prefers the typing experience over a Blackberry to a iPhone 4!
Always used a blackberry cause it fits my taste. Well built, not designed like ever other phone out there. Very creative design. I had 3 Blackberrys and love them. Ty.
I come to my feed looking for LTT. Nothing, refresh, "posted 10 seconds ago"... okay, that's better.
Linus: "Mini Macros"
Taran: "𝐓𝐡𝐢𝐬 𝐩𝐥𝐞𝐚𝐬𝐞𝐬 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐌𝐚𝐜𝐫𝐨 𝐊𝐢𝐧𝐠"
Underated comment
Ah yes. The ChatSnap generation! Historians say that this generation never existed and was pure myth.
I love the awkward 2-second pause before the sponsor's message. Makes it all worth it ;D
Let me just say that as somebody who has grown up surrounded by the corporate world, this device IS solely used by executives for communications; it’s purpose. You raised points about Ted Talks and taking pictures etc, however most executives have two phones. They use their iPhone for home, and their blackberry for work.
*Hey Please review the new Hyper X "Gaming " Sd card*
Anton Olovennikov how do I curse you
Reporting it obviously
Sidharath Bansal 😂
Whyyyyyy??
Off Topic
I think people forget what these phones are intended for! These are business phones, not facebook,snapchat ect phones!
totally agree. not for watching netflix, games,
The price of this phone is too much though with the lack of features and poor quality specs over all. If it was 250 or 300$, then I'd be fine with that.
@@nathanpickering6742 Lack of features? Besides the Wireless Charging I don't see any other feature lacking out on this phone; I think you're looking some really particular features in this phone and it doesn't have those; if you're looking for privacy, security enhancements and a physical keyboard this is the phone for you, if you're looking a phone to watch Netflix, first you should be getting a 4K TV Screen but as this is too much to carry on daily basics you should buy a big screen factor phone like the XS MAX or S10.
IMHO people consider that there preferences should be all other people preferences, everybody have their own. In my personal opinion, I don't fucking care about the camera on a phone and here I'm paying stupid $300-$500 extra for this "feature" on any current phone because nowadays people consider it an essential thing.
Note: I have a Pixel 3 XL, Xiaomi Mi Mix 2s, iPhone 8, OnePlus 5(all those came out around the same time as the BBK2), and the Blackberry Key 2 perform better or equal to those phones in many situations.
I think you forgot that he didn't use any of that stuff and reviewed it *as a business phone.*
Save the business men if this is what they are supposed to own. If you want a phone that is actually meant for business then go for the galaxy note series.
I actually LOVED my experience with the Key2. Planning to purchase another one soon
I have a Blackberry KeyOne. I love mine as a version1 of the concept of a modern blackberry, but the changes in this KeyTwo are just not well thought out.
Currency key should be the period key.
Why did the camera not improve much?
Why give me a mid-grade processor if I'm also giving up camera quality?
But worst of all, they didn't think about the on-screen buttons. Sure the shortcut button was a cool addition to swap apps through keybinds without going to the home screen or multi-tasking button....BUT THEN WHY DID THEY BOTHER TO KEEP THOSE BUTTONS? Home and back buttons could have been mapped somewhere on the keyboard. Multitasking button is completely pointless with the shortcut key. How did nobody at Blackberry think this through?
If I press the shortcut button to switch apps with a hotkey, what's the point of the multitasking button? Just make the physical shortcut key do both and get rid of it.
Make home a double tap of the shortcut button.
Make room for a back button somewhere. Bam - done. Eliminated the need for the on-screen buttons and make more screen-estate as well as cleaned up the look.
They just thought the idea of a button to quick-switch apps was cool, slapped it in, and stopped there - rather than thinking what other ways they can implement and innovate around it.
Press space twice for the period. No need for a dedicated key.
I still absolutely loathe typing on touchscreens. They're great for everything else, but physical keys will _always_ be superior to touchscreen.
I am still thinking what is a" business " phone.
Jorge Siles like what the fuck this phone is so dumb people say it’s for “businessman” ahahha what do you mean
Galaxy Note series
Maybe a pencil make you look like a "business man" lmao
Blackberry Curve, Torch, Passport, Key1, Key2 (in-use)... still hold them and all are still alive, using the Key2. I love them all.
... Now i want to see a scrapyard wars where everyone has to use a crappy phone to do EVERYTHING...
+1
It be way better if the key board was attachable like a switch.
Pro: 3.5mm phono jack
Con: everything else by the sound of it LOL
Actually that Detek idea sounds great 7:53
dude the ad you used as an example would still be a pain in the ass on any other android.
I'm still using a hacked version of the BlackBerry manager to use the keyboard, I'm sry but BlackBerry's on screen keyboard has been the best I have ever used
Yes it is 😉
Alex Hoffpaiur are you using blackberry software keyboard on non blackberry device? If yes, then how?
@@mbaha5196 www.xda-developers.com/install-blackberry-apps-launcher-keyboard-on-any-android-device-with-blackberry-manager-xda-spotlight/ this guy is a genius thats how, lolz
Just more irrational hatred of BlackBerry physical keyboard... you missed the mark here, Linus...
imagine having all those amazing smartphones at your disposal and then having to use a blackberry for a month.
This is why I loved my Priv so much when I had it. Full size touch screen when you need it, physical keyboard when you need it.
I don't think you're being fair here.
This looks like a great option for people that need to open and edit documents on the go, maybe manage a blog or an online shop - not type messages and comments into youtube, twitter, snapchat and whatsapp. The keyboard sure looks like a downgrade compared to older Windows Mobile, Palm and Blackberry ones, not sure why they thought capacitive gestures over the keys would be better than their old ball joystick. The price includes the "2-300 dollar for-corporate" tax.
Any chance you could find an android phone with physical keyboard that doesn't suck for consumers? Can anybody recommend one?
2:18 is that steve burns from blues clues?? 😁😁😁
A CLUE!
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Cavey Manta we just got a blues clue
Fidozo15 😂😂
imgur.com/a/Zt15sMz here you have. Make your memes
the blackberry is more of a professional device with many features for big companies. its meant for people who type many emails, memos and stuff like that in a buisness context.
i mean a buisness laptop also costs more money for less performance because you have things like TPMs, hardware encryption modules, PXE support, etc.
the blackberries are not meant for consumers, just like an IBM/Lenovo Thinkpad isnt.
Got two words. Slideout keyboard. Then it would be attractive. But as it is, it's crap.
Demonslayer, that's exactly what I thought would be cool to see again - I haven't seen those in years.
I have a Priv with a slider -- a slideout keyboard isnt as great as it sounds. If you use a Blackberry device the vast majority of your activity involves typing on the hardware keyboard. It's easier to have the keyboard already there rather than flipping it upward and awkwardly holding a top-heavy device. The KeyOne and Key2 also have larger keys because they dont need the space to accommodate a slider mechanism.
JesdaG not a flip. A slide. Like the Samsung sidekick was. And that was perfectly acceptable to hold while typing, because it slid out the side rather than the bottom, in landscape mode
Used to be the case, but now it's just another Android phone but with a physical keypad. As linus says in the video virtual keyboards have gotten a lot better and with good touch precision & bigger screens today, it's not as hard to type on on-screen keyboards like those older smartphones with smaller screens. I guess most people who buy the modern BlackBerry buys it for either nostalgia or cz they come from a previous Blackberry phone.
1:08 he’s saying it’s black but it’s red in the image
finally nice t shirt.
Yeah
my biggest gripe about modern phones is the on screen keybaord. i cant stand them
but from your review i might get one i loved having a blackberry passort and blackberry Q10
*“I bought an iPhone 4”*
My key 2 le is brilliant and I love it
It's has slightly less features than the key2 but I think it's great
(Although used a different launcher the in built BlackBerry launcher is a bit slow)