@Minun321 Yeonhee is the least talented in the top 7, but if you were to compare her to the "just visual" members of other mnet survival shows like: Sohye, Chaeyeon (IOI btw), Hyewon, Minju, Sakura (during IZ*ONE), Saerom/Jiheon/Jisun, Bahiyih - she completely outdoes them in vocal and dance. In any other of these groups (IOI/Fromis_9/IZ*ONE/Kep1er) she would be considered as part of the vocal line and generally be considered one of the stronger members
@@JayZingerplus, even if someone completely talentless was there instead of Yeonhee, the other 6 still carry and make this the most talented overall survival show girl group (IOI had some exceptional members, but members like Sohye and Chaeyeon broughy the talent down)
@@randomsheep1165 Are you kidding? Produce contains trainees. Meanwhile, Queendom Puzzle is an idol that has debuted for years. With a lot of stage experience. Moreover, produce the average trainee underage
@@randomsheep1165 People appreciate Sohye for her hard work. She's never even joined an idol trainee. But she continues to grow in each episode. Are you the type of person who doesn't like to appreciate people's hard work?
I am hoping for at least a member from Cherry Bullet made it. They have few comebacks yet, they love being on stage and performing. Such a waste of talent if FNC will not help for their career to progress.
The way Bora and Jiwon cried and said don’t forget about them made me cry. Like they genuinely want to perform on stage but never get the chance cuz they rarely have comebacks. Their company doesn’t even promote Cherry Bullet.
And poor bora and jiwon keep getting sent to survival shows non stop. Instead of FNC giving them proper promotions and actually using their group properly they send their members to survival shows in hopes they will get recognized and get famous. Shame on FNC for wasting their talent. These poor girls need to stop going through the mental deterioration of going on survival shows.
@@LeaLeaA7 FNC doesn't promote anyone properly. They are one of the worse kpop company. By luck for their artists, FNC is quite good as an actors agency and at finding roles so they at least keep working and making money.
@@carlitadengari Except not all their idols want to be actors and that’s the issue. I only used Cherry Bullet as an example, I’m aware they don’t promote any of their kpop groups properly
@@LeaLeaA7 well, better be an actor than unemployed... Some groups in hiatus just don't do anything and get forgotten. FNC suck but they at least have this. Anyway, if they are not too stupid, they will use the new exposure to give CB a comeback soon. I also hope they could find a way to (re)debut Dohwa. She got a lot of exposure and positive feedback from the show.
I just hope hope hope EL7Z UP will be treated fairly. There's so many other survival show groups like kep1er etc. Wishing the best for the members!! (Btw Yujin in kep1er and Yeeun in EL7Z UP, as a cheshire i'm so happy :DDD)
I hated that Mnet always count just Korean votes for all the finals, that’s why Yeeun drop from 4th/5th to 7th. The same thing happened to xiaoting in gp999. Overall I’m happy with the line up 6/7 made it :D
@@rafaeljtovar samee, the reason why i watch gp999 and queendom puzzle was just because of yujin and yeeun, ofc i fell in love with other members to make it but yeeun and yujin were my number 1, I so happy she made it to the final line up
@@destinyhntr then why u call it a global voting during the whole show? A big percentage of viewers of this show or this groups are international, a big amount of people orden from internet albums, cds, lightsticks etc. Mnet needs to promote the voting system as global and do it global during the whole show or say that the final episode only Koreans can vote so people will be aware
Xiaoting’s situation was different. Like literally global and her Korean fans stopped voting for Xiaoting to vote for their second choice cuz they all genuinely thought she had enough favs still voting for her and she would still be on top. I remember everyone being shocked that she dropped that much but at least we came through in the end and got her to 9th place 😂 Also why ppl learnt their lesson and didn’t do that with Boys Planet.
it's rare in a survival show you get basically the best idols at their respective positions on the program voted into the final lineup main vocal - kei & hwiseo ... though some would argue bora was right up there with these two main dancers - yeoreum & nana main rappers - yeeun & yuki then a solid all rounder like yeonhee and i think you can label other members like hwiseo, nana, yuki as potential all rounders too continuing the puzzle voting system where you vote for the entire 7 group likely helped although there weren't any "weak links" in the final 14 or show really so whoever made the group in the finale, the group was going to be very good skill set wise but this current group we have now is pretty stacked and maybe the best 7 you could've realistically and honestly hoped for i think it's probably the most talented survival show girl group since I.O.I in 2016 which makes sense since it's basically an all star team or roster of idols from small to mid tier kpop girl groups who are severely underrated and overlooked in the industry right now
SAME!!! Call it what you want but I wish she was in Kei’s place because I feel that Kei already has a strong acknowledgment in the Kpop industry as a good vocalist and that others should be given a chance to help their groups. I think having kei in the group is amazing but a part of me wishes jihan was there with the other 6 members.
i don't understand why people are obsessed saying kei doesn't fit the group. first of all we don't even know what will be their concept. second, kei can carry all concepts and she showed it through the show. she was amazing in snap, her team literally won the battle and everyone praised her. her voice made the song better and listenable. her bad blood was amazing too, she slayed both vocals and dance. she can pull mature or sexy, dark, cute, hiphop and emotional concepts. she even did rock version of trouble maker in her previous survival show. during girl spirit back then 2016 she went with different and various concepts. have you watched her kiss, twinkle or deviation stages? even when she was a rookie idol she slayed all concepts. also she is a musical artists so she knows how to control her voice better than anyone else. she is the best vocalist and most experienced idol here. i hate it when people underestimate her skills and abilities thinking she can only do cute concepts
Very well said. I'm not a lovelyz fan but I do sing and I was honestly so impressed by how she performed in snap. It's so impressive to me how she was able to make her vocals fit snap (just look at Bora, but ofc kei is WAY WAY more experienced than bora) and it really made me gain so much more respect for her. I mean just look at billionaire in itself too. Swag song but if you watch her fancam she really fits the vibe!! 🥺 she's GREAT plus literally has such a lovely and kind personality, just look at how she took care of soeun and bora, fellow main vocalists in the show 🥺
@@chloecinnamonn I agree that Kei is an amazing singer, but I don't appreciate how people who brought up how well she sings always compare her with Bora and how she is superior, like what you're doing. Everyone has their own opinions but there are better ways to voice them. I sing too and I really think both of them have their own color, and are equally talented. I root for Bora because the girl obviously has no big fandom to back her up.
Probably the best line up out of a survival show since IOI and Izone. It's a shame if they disband after the album and the tour. Also, probably the most expected results.
I wish Elly or Juri should have been part of the Top 7 their voices are unique, these days girl groups need someone with unique voice to be different, a bit husky or bass sound
This lineup will be the craziest avengers level lineup I would say.🧩🦹♀️ They are so balanced in visuals, vocals, dance, raps and also the age, leadership. I am so happy for them and looking forward to their debut!
I can't complain with the final 7. They all have visuals, talent, experience and great personality. I like them all and hope they do well with their upcoming Album and Tour. Looking forward to their MAMA performance end of year
I wonder how this is gonna work out for hwiseo because she has a h1key comeback coming up as well she must've been so busy working so hard for both things, my talented girl... I'm glad she's getting recognized for her hard work
Lowkey I get and understand nana, younhee, yuki, and hwieso made the group…..I just kinda wish the girls who aren’t in a active group would have made it….purple kiss, rocket punch, and hi-key all are currently promoting with these members….Elly, MIRU, fie, could have really benefited for being in an active girl group. I need a season 2 like tomorrow lol
What does Netizens stand for? The comments were from reddit which is mainly for english speakers, I always felt the term netizens means korean comments(Pann choa, netizen buzz etc)
Netizen is just short for "internet citizen," which refers to any commenter of poster on the internet. When we want to specifically single out Korean netizens, most people use the term "k-netz" or "k-netizens."
Yes chaeyeon left the show in episode 2. But i really happy she don't join this show because she can be soloist more better, and if she keep this show, yeeun,yoonhee they're can be redebuted, so give to them because her grup so underated
no hate, but i wonder how would it be if Jihan was instead of Yeonhee. i mean i like Jihan more and she's prettier and more talented. She was amazing on stage and so charismatic.will the group be more compelted or dores Yeonhee really complete this line up 🤔
@yaroo2583 as a massive rocket punch fan I agree that Jihan brings a lot more in terms of vocals to the group (she's the same vocal tier as Bora, being E+) - but Yeonhee is better in dance and rap - and imo she would suit a powerful/mature concept more than Jihan (who is just so adorable). I personally think Yeonhee balances out the group a bit more. Jihan would have to compete with Kei, Hwiseo and Nana for decent vocal parts. I think it's nice that Yeonhee and Yeoreum are in the group so that the top 3 vocalists and the 2 main rappers can display their strengths - whilst Yeonhee and Yeoreum can take on the simpler lines. Imo Yeonhee is a bit like Yujin from IVE in terms of vocals - she's not technically astounding but I think she has quite a piercing/nasally tone which can contrast nicely with Kei/Hwiseo/Nana Wishing Weeekly the best for their upcoming comeback ♡
The good songs that exist in this survival are snap, charismatic, web and overwater, the others are just mediocre, especially in the final, not really suitable for a final song
everything is good except for the name and the company they are going to be promoted in. like, wakeone already has to deal with kep1er and zb1 and now another survival show group, and uhm, they aren't managing kep1er that well.. (also don't forgive them how they kicked out cha woongki, and all the international trainees of wakeone that participated in boys planet after the show was over out of thin air) and did mnet ran out of good group names? like.. what were they thinking when coming up with the name el7z up and writing it in such a way that is hard to pronounce??? what i do like is that there is no underage teen in the group who is freshly graduated from middle school, it is very refreshing to see a group debuting with all adults since i've seen too many underage ones debuting i wish the best of luck for these girls they have the potential to become big in the future! how long is their contract actually?
I have watched all types of Survival Shows and i loved the twist when an unexpected member joined the line up so i was a bit bored because it remained the same and just 1 member change, I still love the group though and I cant wait for their debut but besides the performances the show was not that exciting but that's just me so
Yeoreum shouldn't be there. Bora evil edited like she was greedy, but actually Yeoreum is greedier. She won Queendom last season but still joined again this season. Besides, she showed nothing incredible in this season; she's just there. She won last season, WJSN flopped, she joined again, and won again. This group will be flopped like WJSN lol
@@erererputrx Her agency didn't even give her a comeback after winning Queendom 2. If you were Yeorum. Are you just going to sit in the dorm and rot. Without any activity and income?
in my personal, i guess kei not suit in the group she is too angelic fresh dreamy concept suit her,she talented and good vocal but she not suit in the group 😕 i preffer replace kei to sangah that would be better
This lineup is phenomenal. Has to be one of the most talented survival show groups (and general groups) in kpop
Nah they have Yeonhee
@Minun321 Yeonhee is the least talented in the top 7, but if you were to compare her to the "just visual" members of other mnet survival shows like: Sohye, Chaeyeon (IOI btw), Hyewon, Minju, Sakura (during IZ*ONE), Saerom/Jiheon/Jisun, Bahiyih - she completely outdoes them in vocal and dance. In any other of these groups (IOI/Fromis_9/IZ*ONE/Kep1er) she would be considered as part of the vocal line and generally be considered one of the stronger members
@@JayZingerplus, even if someone completely talentless was there instead of Yeonhee, the other 6 still carry and make this the most talented overall survival show girl group (IOI had some exceptional members, but members like Sohye and Chaeyeon broughy the talent down)
@@randomsheep1165 Are you kidding? Produce contains trainees. Meanwhile, Queendom Puzzle is an idol that has debuted for years. With a lot of stage experience. Moreover, produce the average trainee underage
@@randomsheep1165 People appreciate Sohye for her hard work. She's never even joined an idol trainee. But she continues to grow in each episode. Are you the type of person who doesn't like to appreciate people's hard work?
I am hoping for at least a member from Cherry Bullet made it. They have few comebacks yet, they love being on stage and performing. Such a waste of talent if FNC will not help for their career to progress.
The way Bora and Jiwon cried and said don’t forget about them made me cry. Like they genuinely want to perform on stage but never get the chance cuz they rarely have comebacks. Their company doesn’t even promote Cherry Bullet.
And poor bora and jiwon keep getting sent to survival shows non stop. Instead of FNC giving them proper promotions and actually using their group properly they send their members to survival shows in hopes they will get recognized and get famous. Shame on FNC for wasting their talent. These poor girls need to stop going through the mental deterioration of going on survival shows.
@@LeaLeaA7 FNC doesn't promote anyone properly. They are one of the worse kpop company. By luck for their artists, FNC is quite good as an actors agency and at finding roles so they at least keep working and making money.
@@carlitadengari Except not all their idols want to be actors and that’s the issue.
I only used Cherry Bullet as an example, I’m aware they don’t promote any of their kpop groups properly
@@LeaLeaA7 well, better be an actor than unemployed... Some groups in hiatus just don't do anything and get forgotten. FNC suck but they at least have this. Anyway, if they are not too stupid, they will use the new exposure to give CB a comeback soon. I also hope they could find a way to (re)debut Dohwa. She got a lot of exposure and positive feedback from the show.
I just hope hope hope EL7Z UP will be treated fairly. There's so many other survival show groups like kep1er etc. Wishing the best for the members!!
(Btw Yujin in kep1er and Yeeun in EL7Z UP, as a cheshire i'm so happy :DDD)
I hated that Mnet always count just Korean votes for all the finals, that’s why Yeeun drop from 4th/5th to 7th. The same thing happened to xiaoting in gp999. Overall I’m happy with the line up 6/7 made it :D
thank god international fans were strong enough for her to make it. I voted really hard for yeeun
@@rafaeljtovar samee, the reason why i watch gp999 and queendom puzzle was just because of yujin and yeeun, ofc i fell in love with other members to make it but yeeun and yujin were my number 1, I so happy she made it to the final line up
Koreans watch it on the actual show (not translated forms) and buy a lot more tickets, CDs, etc. It makes sense financially to give them priority
@@destinyhntr then why u call it a global voting during the whole show? A big percentage of viewers of this show or this groups are international, a big amount of people orden from internet albums, cds, lightsticks etc. Mnet needs to promote the voting system as global and do it global during the whole show or say that the final episode only Koreans can vote so people will be aware
Xiaoting’s situation was different. Like literally global and her Korean fans stopped voting for Xiaoting to vote for their second choice cuz they all genuinely thought she had enough favs still voting for her and she would still be on top.
I remember everyone being shocked that she dropped that much but at least we came through in the end and got her to 9th place 😂
Also why ppl learnt their lesson and didn’t do that with Boys Planet.
it's rare in a survival show you get basically the best idols at their respective positions on the program voted into the final lineup
main vocal - kei & hwiseo ... though some would argue bora was right up there with these two
main dancers - yeoreum & nana
main rappers - yeeun & yuki
then a solid all rounder like yeonhee and i think you can label other members like hwiseo, nana, yuki as potential all rounders too
continuing the puzzle voting system where you vote for the entire 7 group likely helped although there weren't any "weak links" in the final 14 or show really so whoever made the group in the finale, the group was going to be very good skill set wise
but this current group we have now is pretty stacked and maybe the best 7 you could've realistically and honestly hoped for
i think it's probably the most talented survival show girl group since I.O.I in 2016 which makes sense since it's basically an all star team or roster of idols from small to mid tier kpop girl groups who are severely underrated and overlooked in the industry right now
I wished that Jihan made the top 7. Her performances during NXDE and Wannabe were phenomenal. But the final lineup is very balanced I must say..
SAME!!! Call it what you want but I wish she was in Kei’s place because I feel that Kei already has a strong acknowledgment in the Kpop industry as a good vocalist and that others should be given a chance to help their groups. I think having kei in the group is amazing but a part of me wishes jihan was there with the other 6 members.
@@kingkrystal6123 as long as nana, yeoreum, hwiseo, yuki and jihan are in, I would be happy lol
@@maxg5648 YES!
i don't understand why people are obsessed saying kei doesn't fit the group. first of all we don't even know what will be their concept. second, kei can carry all concepts and she showed it through the show. she was amazing in snap, her team literally won the battle and everyone praised her. her voice made the song better and listenable. her bad blood was amazing too, she slayed both vocals and dance. she can pull mature or sexy, dark, cute, hiphop and emotional concepts. she even did rock version of trouble maker in her previous survival show. during girl spirit back then 2016 she went with different and various concepts. have you watched her kiss, twinkle or deviation stages? even when she was a rookie idol she slayed all concepts. also she is a musical artists so she knows how to control her voice better than anyone else. she is the best vocalist and most experienced idol here. i hate it when people underestimate her skills and abilities thinking she can only do cute concepts
Where exactly did people say she doesn't fit? Twitter?
@@laurencias297 i see it mostly on youtube video comments. even here there is ppl saying it 😭
Very well said. I'm not a lovelyz fan but I do sing and I was honestly so impressed by how she performed in snap. It's so impressive to me how she was able to make her vocals fit snap (just look at Bora, but ofc kei is WAY WAY more experienced than bora) and it really made me gain so much more respect for her. I mean just look at billionaire in itself too. Swag song but if you watch her fancam she really fits the vibe!! 🥺 she's GREAT plus literally has such a lovely and kind personality, just look at how she took care of soeun and bora, fellow main vocalists in the show 🥺
@@chloecinnamonn I agree that Kei is an amazing singer, but I don't appreciate how people who brought up how well she sings always compare her with Bora and how she is superior, like what you're doing. Everyone has their own opinions but there are better ways to voice them. I sing too and I really think both of them have their own color, and are equally talented. I root for Bora because the girl obviously has no big fandom to back her up.
Her performance with Soeun might be the best in the show😭
Probably the best line up out of a survival show since IOI and Izone. It's a shame if they disband after the album and the tour. Also, probably the most expected results.
They'll release 3 albums
what is this kep1er shade💀 kep1er literally has the best dance and vocal line
I wish Elly or Juri should have been part of the Top 7 their voices are unique, these days girl groups need someone with unique voice to be different, a bit husky or bass sound
Who would you take out of the current group for Elly or Juri?
Hwiseo and nana deserve it, they are all rounder also have uniq visual and charisma ❤❤
My first ideal line up was:
Yeeun
Bora
Nana
Jihan
Jiwon
Yeoreum
Yeonhee or Dohwa or Hwiseo
😢 I’m still upset about Bora and Jiwon the most
Jiwon deserved
Yeah. Cherry Bullet Bora. From the top 7 to the bottom 20th out of 21 places. Clearly she was been victimised by Mnet evil editing.
Bora has been thought a lot 😢
This lineup will be the craziest avengers level lineup I would say.🧩🦹♀️ They are so balanced in visuals, vocals, dance, raps and also the age, leadership. I am so happy for them and looking forward to their debut!
this maybe mnet's first not rigged vote show
I like Hwiseo and Kei the most, they deserves to shine again
I can't complain with the final 7. They all have visuals, talent, experience and great personality.
I like them all and hope they do well with their upcoming Album and Tour. Looking forward to their MAMA performance end of year
I wonder how this is gonna work out for hwiseo because she has a h1key comeback coming up as well she must've been so busy working so hard for both things, my talented girl... I'm glad she's getting recognized for her hard work
Just look at ioi as an example. Their contract allows them to do both group promotion. Just like sejeong, mina with gugudan during ioi promotion
Bad Blood & Snap EL7Z UP MV!
My first line up was
Nana
Hwiseo
Kei
Yeoreum
Yeonhee
Jihan
Fye
But the final line up is also good just didnt expect jihan would not make it
id prefer suyun or jihan instead of yeonhee but its still very good
hope the channel uploads more new videos
Lowkey I get and understand nana, younhee, yuki, and hwieso made the group…..I just kinda wish the girls who aren’t in a active group would have made it….purple kiss, rocket punch, and hi-key all are currently promoting with these members….Elly, MIRU, fie, could have really benefited for being in an active girl group. I need a season 2 like tomorrow lol
Does MNet have any plans to do a Kingdom Puzzle yet?
the name is weird , a Sprite like beverage is called 7UP
Yeah. Some commentators already nicknamed the group. So, after drinking CLC Yeeun "Cherry Coke", we would be drinking 7 UP from EL7Z UP.
ohhh that’s why the group name was reminding me of a soft drink LOL
No Wooyeon 😢...so sad, still want the group to succeed since theres Nana ❤
Ahy Elly such a waste
How were there over 200 countries voting when the UN only recognizes 195 countries?
Because there are some "independent territories and regions". Example, the island of Taiwan.
What does Netizens stand for? The comments were from reddit which is mainly for english speakers, I always felt the term netizens means korean comments(Pann choa, netizen buzz etc)
Netizen is just short for "internet citizen," which refers to any commenter of poster on the internet. When we want to specifically single out Korean netizens, most people use the term "k-netz" or "k-netizens."
Wow first
Predictable?? Yeeun just barely made it in the Final Line Up! 😮
I wanted jihan 😢 and cheayeon
Wdyn Chaeyeon? Girly left the show after the first episode lol
Yes chaeyeon left the show in episode 2. But i really happy she don't join this show because she can be soloist more better, and if she keep this show, yeeun,yoonhee they're can be redebuted, so give to them because her grup so underated
no hate, but i wonder how would it be if Jihan was instead of Yeonhee. i mean i like Jihan more and she's prettier and more talented. She was amazing on stage and so charismatic.will the group be more compelted or dores Yeonhee really complete this line up 🤔
@yaroo2583 as a massive rocket punch fan I agree that Jihan brings a lot more in terms of vocals to the group (she's the same vocal tier as Bora, being E+) - but Yeonhee is better in dance and rap - and imo she would suit a powerful/mature concept more than Jihan (who is just so adorable). I personally think Yeonhee balances out the group a bit more. Jihan would have to compete with Kei, Hwiseo and Nana for decent vocal parts. I think it's nice that Yeonhee and Yeoreum are in the group so that the top 3 vocalists and the 2 main rappers can display their strengths - whilst Yeonhee and Yeoreum can take on the simpler lines.
Imo Yeonhee is a bit like Yujin from IVE in terms of vocals - she's not technically astounding but I think she has quite a piercing/nasally tone which can contrast nicely with Kei/Hwiseo/Nana
Wishing Weeekly the best for their upcoming comeback ♡
The good songs that exist in this survival are snap, charismatic, web and overwater, the others are just mediocre, especially in the final, not really suitable for a final song
everything is good except for the name and the company they are going to be promoted in.
like, wakeone already has to deal with kep1er and zb1 and now another survival show group, and uhm, they aren't managing kep1er that well.. (also don't forgive them how they kicked out cha woongki, and all the international trainees of wakeone that participated in boys planet after the show was over out of thin air)
and did mnet ran out of good group names? like.. what were they thinking when coming up with the name el7z up and writing it in such a way that is hard to pronounce???
what i do like is that there is no underage teen in the group who is freshly graduated from middle school, it is very refreshing to see a group debuting with all adults since i've seen too many underage ones debuting
i wish the best of luck for these girls they have the potential to become big in the future!
how long is their contract actually?
A commentator said the project group, EL7Z U+P would only exist for 6 months to 1 year. The low key CLC Yeeun would be a soloist again in 2024.
@@DreamyCheshire-up9rf oh... that's insanely short
I have watched all types of Survival Shows and i loved the twist when an unexpected member joined the line up so i was a bit bored because it remained the same and just 1 member change, I still love the group though and I cant wait for their debut but besides the performances the show was not that exciting but that's just me so
Boring line up excep yuki.
As a global group, three of the seven shouldn’t be there
Well you can also say that about Kep1er and ZB1
What do you mean?
Who?
Yeoreum shouldn't be there. Bora evil edited like she was greedy, but actually Yeoreum is greedier. She won Queendom last season but still joined again this season. Besides, she showed nothing incredible in this season; she's just there. She won last season, WJSN flopped, she joined again, and won again. This group will be flopped like WJSN lol
@@erererputrx Her agency didn't even give her a comeback after winning Queendom 2. If you were Yeorum. Are you just going to sit in the dorm and rot. Without any activity and income?
in my personal,
i guess kei not suit in the group she is too angelic fresh dreamy concept suit her,she talented and good vocal but she not suit in the group 😕 i preffer replace kei to sangah that would be better
kei perfectly suits the group
"Dark" Kei fits perfectly and she has been praised by all the choregraphers for being able to show this side of herself.
Kinda agree, the line up is dookie (except Hwiseo) Kei deserved better groupmates
@@8lovelyz8 yes she perfect in the group but not this group ,☺️
@@carlitadengari praises by all yeah she talented, but still her vocal and image not suit in this group