How To Check & Replace Your Timing Chain...Ford Mondeo Mk5 2L Diesel
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
- This is a particular bad case of a timing chain that is about to break as the tensioner nylon guides have all broken and worn away.
Apart from putting a pick into the oil filler cap hole to prod the timing chain to see if it is loose you can also put a piece of paper over the oil filler hole with the engine running...if the paper gets soaked in oil very quickly there is a good chance you will need a new timing chain and tensioner.
It’s 2am here in the uk 1 hour after Alan posted this video so far 127 people have viewed it and only 13 of us have hit the like button - how hard can it be not to press like - it’s FREE valuable info which is also entertaining - What else have most of got to do this early in the morning. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 Thanks Alan for doing this video
We should already give a thumbs up if we see a new video appears, regardless of its contents. The bloke is an absolute genius, very sympathetic and earns pure respect.
Good point.
Alan's channel is defo underrated here on you tube, comparing to quality of his content and time he must spend to prep those videos for us.. he's one of those creators who deserves 👍 as soon as you hit play!!
I did, I have a few favourite channels where I hit the 👍 straight away because I know I'm going to enjoy the content
thanks mark...my goal is to get the silver play button but i not sure i will live long enough lol🤣but thanks again, your a star
thank you marinus😁
Wat a teacher could watch u all day Alan brill💯
thanks william
Monia's positive energy is infectious 😊
It is not just you with the injectors Alan.. watching a couple of different channels here, others too, have said that diesel injectors stopped working after taking them out and putting back in again while doing injector unrelated job!!
thanks bartosz, yes those injectors are certainly problematic
THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU,. Alan I have just repaired the head gasket on my wife's brother's Peugeot 508 2.0 with same engine. Your various videos on timing belts, fuel pump timing, Egr abominations and chain replacement gave me all the info I needed. It took me quite a while , maybe nearly 30 hours over two weeks, but it seems successful. It started on second turn of the key and only real problem at the end was I forgot to reconnect the cam sensor so it was a sluggish starter. A word to other users, I broke the head off 6 of the head bolts due to the torx part shearing. Luckily a friend was able to weld old sockets and we got them out for the price of a few pints. Thank you once again Alan for your wonderful videos. You've a friend in Ireland now! Thanks, Richard, Dublin.
thanks richard, glad you got it all sorted, taking on a head gasket job on that engine is certainly a daunting task so well done
@@alan4x to be honest it livened up a dull January. Nothing like a meaty job for keeping you interested.
My parents used to watch "Little House on the Prairie" with Michael Landon, I watch Alan's video series on fixing Mondeos. It's good to have you, my mondeo 2016,5 which I own for 3 years already, has never seen a mechanic (I've already changed the timing belt, water pomp, cooler, HPFP seals, fluids, filters and so on) . Great job as always! Thank you.👍
cheers rob, its good to do these jobs yourself and save labour charges
Superb video, I know absolutely nothing about diesels and you make it easy to follow along.
lol, cheers jobeblogs
Absolutely perfect content. Just got teetht flew of from the belt and these videos saved my engineering!👌
Best channel for Mondeo repairs!
The Rover 75 is fitted with a Jatco JF506E transmission witch in fact is the same that is used in the mk3 Mondeo. Very rare with mechanical issues but quite prone to electrical issues. But I seriously doubt the gearbox is at fault here! Thank you so much for spectacularly entertaining videos😁
Nice work as always Alan,great to see Monica’s cameo 😍👍
Thanks 👍kevin
Hi Alan, Due to your advices, I've replaced head gasket in DW10F and all stuff around. You doing very very good job :) Thx & greetings from Poland.
You got a piece of modern art there mate
Another fantastic tutorial video Alan.👍👌
These vehicles 'MUST' be very well maintained otherwise they wouldn't still be running sweet with over a 1/4 of a million miles on some of them so give yourself a pat on the back.
Boss-man (Steve) was right to buy a fleet of Fords by the looks of it because if he went 'German' & bought a fleet of BMW's some of them have cam chains on the opposite end of the engine. (Behind the Flywheel). So it's Engine out, Gearbox & Clutch & Flywheel off to access the timing cover. They are a nightmare !
Cracked it again Alan .Another taxi back on the road.
for how is the question lol
For how long you mean? Probably till it breaks down again which is more than likely,after been used and abused by every man and his dog. Lol
Keep these videos going mate.
It’s that bloomin’ spring again! I’m sure that is what’s causing the starting issue with my Mondeo!
Hi Alan 👋 you make it All Look Easy 😀
cheers finn, its only easy as i have done it so many times lol
I'd struggle doing it with 2 hands, let alone 1.😀, nicely done Alan.
Another great video of yours.
I will keep it, if it sometimes happens to my mk5.
Thanks Alan
Keep up the good work......
Great content as always and top tips on teardown of components etc and filming at the same time top mark's buddy 👍👍👍
Well done Alan you did that with one hand and the other with a camera! Really appreciate the tutorial and wonder how much it really costs for this job
lol, you have to be a one armed bandit these days ...its not a cheap job, the chain kit and all the gaskets needed as well as a cam belt kit and water pump will cost from ford the best part of £500...and labour will depend who does the job
Just 2 cents from me, video helped a lot, but it's worth mentioning correct torque values for a cover, it's 5nm pretension and 10Nm final tension, and it's very important to not overdo it. Also .. something I should be aware of, when taking injectors out, you have to replace cooper washers, one of mine is not sealing correctly and smoke is coming out so I have to replace it. Other than that, great stuff.
Thanks a lot for all your advice
I had same problem and i am waiting all my parts to repair the engine
Thanks 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Love these videos Alan! Hope your new year is going well so far!
thanks mark, yes not too bad
Hey Alan. Totally blown away by the work that you do. You explain it so well, I just wish I lived closer to you as I've never seen a more meticulous mechanic in my life. Also I have a mk 4.5 mondeo which I love to bits.
Thank you Alan you're a Master theacher for me👍👍👍
Great job except excess of black silicone that can block oil passage and size the engine easy. Anaerobic gasket should be used so camshafts will fit perfectly and no silicone problem. Also sounds like tiny injector knock . Thank you for the time you spent!
Nicely done, Alan, job jobbed
thanks dave
Always best to squash the hydraulic lifters down when the cams are removed as when they are realeased they jack up and will keep a valve open
never had these ones cause a problem unlike a fiesta zetec lol
Thank you for sharing Alan.
My pleasure, cheers joseph
Mighty job Alan💯👌👍🙂
I hit the like before i have even seen the vid....
quality vid...very relaxing...
N x
Well done. 👏
What you know and can do, the Ford factory doesn't know and can't do. 👏 At how many spinning miles is this chain changed preventively? Thank you
I found the information in another video. But how many miles does the belt and water pump change? I can't find that information.
Would that paper trick work for most chain driven cars?
Could you please post the torque for the camshaft cover… this info is covered with the fig. on your video… thanks a lot 👍
Great Advise ! Thanks Alan
Hope you make more videos.
I will, cheers john
Good job!!!
cheers jarkozlik
Sounding sweet 👍
Thanks 👍alan
Ok. So why would that be considered indicative of a badly worn chain, as opposed to say excessive blow by??
Hi alan, great vid. You mentioned on your wednesday live stream about looking for an alternative engine oil supply. Exol lubricants do a ford approved 0w30 in the correct spec might be worth a look. Also, how much does a timing belt & water pump job cost on the mk5
thanks dave i will check it out
Great job. Why do you not clean down the top end of the engine and the cam carrier before rebuilding?? Its all gone back minging!!!
Great video mate
cheers mark
If it wasn't for the timing chain problem they would be a really good motor well apart from egr and the dmf what other problem have you found which should know about thanks
yes they do have a few issues lol
Just the video I've been waiting for, thanks Alan, i did the paper check and yeah it spits out oil but not noisy like your video, so hopefully it won't cause any problems just yet, unlike my water pump that failed at 50k 3days after I brought the car😂 luckily it was fixed under warranty and they also replaced the cambelt, I had this all done in Huntingdon not that far from your garage?
you can also put a pick in the oil filler hole and wiggle the chain. with the engine off lol..if it is loose then it will need doing soon, you will know as the engine sounds pretty rough with a worn chain, good luck
Hi Alan, I was wondering if you have ever had a tapping noise on any of your Mk5 when you do a cold start? That last for about 2minutes, once the engine warms it soon stops tapping and sounds normal I've ruled out the chain as this seems nice and tight, it's driving me crazy 🤣 and the garage I brought it from tells me it's normal, all I can think is it could be a sticky hydraulic lifter, so that's got me wondering if using a oil Additive would help, everyone who has heard me start my car in the morning or after a day at work notice it straight away 😂 it's a bit of a ongoing joke. Would muchly appreciate any insight if possible.
Thanks Alan
What does it mean if the camshaft position sensor b advanced but the cambelt timing is spot on.
i had a case where the chain and cam belt timing were spot on but a code kept coming up for over advanced timing which turned out to be a faulty engine ecu, purchased a good used ecu off eBay and had it programmed to the car which cured the problem
At least you don't have to change these chains as often as a cam belt
Hello Alan! Regarding the factory standard oil leak by the HPFP. I have came up with an idea which i actually used. I picked the cog-wheelunit in its 2 peices and only bolted up half of it to the engine at the time, why? because if you do that you can use alot of sealent paste on the actual gasket itself and not be afraid of it blocking the oil way because if only half of it is bolted up you can easily remove the excess paste from the hole. then after i have done that I bolted up the other half of the cog unit, installing the cogwheel like this when half of the unit is bolted up can be tricky but a bit of wiggling it around it will slot into the camshaft cog drive. I think this can be a good idea to solve the issue
its not what i would do but if it works for you then good
@@alan4x it was just an idea for potential improvement on your solution, I saw it in one of your videos few months back
A car I've just had in with broken rockers has a lot of sealant around the cog box to the head and a bead of sealant on the body of it.
Car won't start showing low fuel pressure code which is making me suspicious of the high pressure pump and perhaps it's oil feed.
If the pump fails do they often cause timing issues?
Alan at what mileage is the earliest that you have had to replace the timing chain on these engines ???? another very informative video as ever Alan.
i have had a chain snap at around 100k miles but i think that was a one off...normally they go at around 240k moles or more
Hi Alan, i am looking at changing my camshafts and this video is very helpful in guiding me through it! But it is honestly the last resort! I purchased the car a few months back and it has a very odd issue with it that i cannot get to the bottom of!
65 plate Mk5 mondeo 2l TDCI. 150bhp. 146000 miles
It has a hard start issue.. it could be in the morning or afternoon, if the car has been stood for 7-8 hours or more, it struggles to start. Could take 1 to 4 turns of the key. BUT once it has started. It drives fine. And it will start first time every time after.. albeit a little rough. Until its been stood for a prolonged time (usually overnight) then it struggled again.
With your expertise have you got any common faults that could cause this? Many thanks in advance..
i am lost/puzzled with it and been recommended to get a new engine. But i dont want to go down that route just yet.
Top info as ever. Burning the midnight oil are we my pal?
hi Chris ..yes late one tonight
Hello Alan, it's nice stuff! How often do you recommend to change oil (and what of oil) on those engines? Thanks!
Mr. Alan, isn't there another procedure to change the timing chain? For example, to loosen the chain by removing a bolt and then mount it in position?
The piezo injectors are a pain if they drain completely dry apparently.
Same as mercs
Alan when you take out the injectors do you keep them in the order you took them out ie 1/1 2/2 and so on i once got told if you ever get second hand pump of old car you should All ways take the old injectors and rail or they don't work was thinking about what you said about putting them down on cold surface and yes mate ill subscribe and like for you👍😃🤪
hi christopher, yes when you remove the injectors on these engines you should keep them in order as they are individually coded to each cylinder.
if you did mix them up the engine will still run but you could get adverse effects like diesel knock.... you don't need original injectors if you replace the fuel pump
I've a head to replace on one of these, what sealant are you using between the head and cam carrier?
The information in your vids is invaluable
its just instant gasket maker sealant sold at any autopart centre..ford dealers will also sell the correct sealant
@@alan4x 2008 S-Max as it happens. Absolute pig of a job. Whoever designed this layout, the positioning and around the engine layout needs a slap.
Better hoofing the engine - far quicker.
Good insightful vids btw - 👍👍
I have a dw10c on a 2.0 dispatch. I cant get the camshaft to sit right. I followed all procedures and still is like bent, even putting the belt pulley on and getting it perfectly centered does not work. Im in a bad situation and cant get out of it
al i it cold where you are? sweltering here in the south!
another great video, and the dancing, you should be on strictly
Hi pal, I wonder if you could book my mondeo 2016 to change the timing chain?
After i disconnect fuel high pressure rail or fuel pump i always connect my vacuum pump to the overfill fuel system which helps to suck fuel to high pressure pump. Engine runs much faster
What mileage of this engine? Someone didn't change oil on time?
Hi Alan … love the videos .How much would a job like this cost ?
Have you ever had to change a blend door actuator I’m searching but only videos on American Ford fusions we drive mk5 taxis up here in Sunderland and having issues with heat on drivers side but not passenger side. With you dealing with over 100 mondeos im sure you have come across this ???
Timing belt and chain is a pretty big job, would it not be cost effective to change injectors or have them serviced, they came out and it would be an ideal time to service them, or was the mpg very close to normal. I think I have had a car you must have worked on, I have seen loads of sealant oozing on camshaft covers before.
Me parece muy bien le den el like aunque un pero en la limpieza del arreglo tendria que tener mas limpio ese motor para efectuar esa reparcion. Darle un baño antes estaria mejor.
Hi Alan, I hope you understand my question. I have noticed on a Ford mk5 in the winter months when the cabin heater is on, after a while, I lose 2dcl of coolant from the system, which is visible in the antifreeze container. What could be causing this? I note that there was no mixing of antifreeze and oil in the container (the antifreeze is "clean") and I did not notice any impurities in the oil.
Good evening everyone!! I have a 2016 reg ford mondeo 1.5 tdci with the engine not producing enough power! The car is not in (LIMP MODE) but it’s pretty much like if it was! I cant get up a steep hill in second gear! High speed max around 80-85mph thats with alot of effort! As soon as it hits a hill starts coming down to sometimes 50mph on a motorway!
When I bought the car 1 year ago it was still under power wich I assumed its due to being just 1.5 engine but nowhere near as bad as it is now!!
If i put high quality fuel from BP for example the car will get just a little better and it’s noticeable!
No smoke no warning lights nothing!
I have a 2017 1.5tdci mondeo aswel wich is pulling like a train and there is a massive difference
Alan please could you give me a hint to what it could be or something please
Thanks 🙏
Not sure i want to know what the labour cost on that job was, that looked like a right faff, hopefully i can rest easy with the 50k on my 2015 mk5 😬
Can you remove the tensioner in situ without taking out the chain/camshafts?
Hello Alan, how is it possible to clean the carbon trash in that single hole intake manifold up to the 8 intake valves?
previous I cleaned an MK4 Engine with 8 intake Holes. But this one has one big Hole.
thanks for your support
What are the symptoms of a mis timed fuel pump?
Hehe thought it was just us that had the ghost injectors going to show this to irate customers
well; i am glad its not just me as well lol
so the mark on the high pressure pump and the hole from cmashaft pulley need to be both at 6 a clock right? to mounted right
Hi Alan, how did you find out that the injectors were bad?
Hi Alan if Im going to replace the seal on the fuel pump, cam belt replaced not long ago, cam chain is ok. Do I have to set timing to top dead centre and then put the pump back in correctly as you showed or just line up the marks you just shown on the pump without timing up top dead centre? Cheers.
How many miles do you do the oil changes at? Every 10k?
Allan,what is the cause of the tapping noise on cold start engine until is warming and disappear? 2.0 TDCI.A lot of mondeo's have that sound on cold start and nobody know if is that normal.
without hearing it i cant say but diesels usually are not that nice when stone cold, if it was something serious the noise would be there when hot as well
Do the mk4 engines have the gasket for the injectors? My C4 Picasso 2.0 hdi 2009 model has no gasket, should it have one or does it just use sealer?
Hey Alan, can you please do me a favour. Can you film a 2.0 Diesel chain test with paper on a good engine to give your valued viewers a comparison test. Cheers Mate, Ricky :)
Hi Alan, injectors are stuck on my mk5 mondeo what puller do you reccomend? thanks
Hi. Can you please tell me how hard to tighten (Nm) the camshaft cover bolts?
sorry i have left the country and no longer have acces to autodata
I will be very happy if the timing chain on my Vauxhall Astra 2015 1.6 diesel Astra last for over 200.000 miles because it is at the rear of the engine flywheel end so you probably no the job involved to renew it
thats not good...thats like the bmws which is a huge job to replace the chain
Whil it be the same for a Opel astra j DIESEL ????
Are there timing marks on the cog box itself or can it only align one way?
there is only a cog inside that unit which does not need to be timed up
Your up late tonight kid 😮
lol, no disturbances at this time
Hello . I have a Ford Mondeo mk5. Do you live in UK? I WOULD LIKE TO COME WITH MY FORD MONDEO TO YOU TO CHANGE AUTOMATIC GEARBOX OIL AND I HAVE AN ENGINE MANAGEMENT LIGHT ON.
CAN YOU GIVE ME A LOCATION IF YOU LIVE IN UK.
THANK YOU .
CONSTANTIN
Is some noise from these chains acceptable? I can hear mine (it's like a quiet scraping sound) but it's not very loud.
there should be no noise but when the chain gets loose you will hear it which means its time to start thinking about replacing it
@alan4x Hi Alan, thanks for the reply mate. I can hear a one second rattle from this area on start up (either cold or being sat for a while). Could this be the chain? Definitely sounds from that area.
I have uploaded a clip actually. Not sure if it's normal or not...
it could bbe but a lot of work to replace the chain. If it does get noisy you will definitely hear it
Hi Alan is the paper test the same for the mk 4.
you can't do the test on a mk4 as the oil filler cap is in a different place
Hi Alan I have a 2018 mk five Mondeo 1.5 diesel taxi i’m having to change the oil every 2 to 3000 miles as the light flashes for oil change then I realised that I was getting oil, dilution I think from the fuel is the dipstick is going higher and higher. How can I fix this problem? And what is the cause?
The classic starting point on DPF equipped diesels for this issue is checking whether the DPF is blocked/heavily restricted because a failed regeneration cycle can cause the unburnt fuel to end up in the oil sump.
You mention the car is a taxi, does it just do short (stop start) urban runs or does it get a regular decent run out e.g. airport runs etc?
Most of it is urban city i’m also using Lucas oil stabiliser and I’ve noticed that the temperature of the engine on the dash is 3/4 I’m not on the halfway This is what Lucas does stops the engine from heating up so it says thanks for your reply.
From 35:08 is that tick normal?
What's the highest milage mondeo you've seen matey
just short of 400k miles, that's on a mk5 mondeo
@@alan4x that's madness 👍
@@alan4xHowis the engine after all them miles? Still running perfect ?
Hello. I have a Peugeot 508 2019 engine 2.0 BlueHDI My timing belt is cutting teeth. Very low mileage. No more than 1000 kilometers. Is this due to improper installation of the high pressure fuel pump?
what do you mean by cutting teeth, it won't be the pump at that mileage, more like one of the pulleys is damaged or off centre
@@alan4x Everything was fine with my car. After replacing the head gasket.
I changed the gas timing belt. Pump rollers.
Everything was purchased original.
I left the service station and drove 300 km and my belt teeth were cut off.
They changed 8 rockers for me. And they installed a new belt.
I drove 1000 km and again the teeth were cut off the belt.
@@alan4x what do you mean by cutting teeth, it won't be the pump at that mileage, more like one of the pulleys is damaged or off centre
@@alan4x There is another person who installed new shafts 3 times.
The rocker was damaging the shaft.
He doesn't know the reason either.
He and I are looking for a problem.
@@alan4x help me please
Terrible cars to work on. It’s like they make these cars to laugh of people who want to fix them. I prefer working on VW rather than this crap, but I’m not a mechanic so I could be wrong. 2 weeks ago a friend of mine broke the teeth on the timing belt and broke all the exhaust rockers.. I replaced all the hydraulic lifters and rockers, timing chain and tensioner and the belt kit. I didn’t take the fuel pump out if you fiddle a bit with the exhaust camshaft it will go out without needing to remove the pump. I also removed the harness from the ecu to the right and didn’t had to remove that many plugs from the front of the engine. Other than that, I guess luckily I didn’t had issue with the injectors not working after replacing, and I did release the chain tensioner before putting the rocker cover on.. i knew that wasn’t a good thing to do and I had to tighten the cover bit by bit just touching on the screws on the correct pattern but it worked out. I left the injector pipes undone and the injectors cables removed, cranked it a few times in order to get diesel up to the injectors then tighten the nuts and it fired up right away. My friend was very happy but I told him not to break that shit anymore because I don’t like fixing fords.
Is the cog box that the pump bolts on a reduction gear or something and what is the chance of something failing and causing the timing to jump?
Just put one back together that had snapped exhaust rockers, belt timing was ok so i can only assume chain jumped.
The cog box has sealant on its joint and to the head so I'm assuming they had been off previously for some reason, are there oil passages to watch out for on them?
What does the pump gear align with in the cog bog and os it set with the crank and cam timing locked
Chr thats nuts🤣🤣
Duratec💪💪💪
Every how many thousand kilometers do you change the oil in your engine? Every 40,000?
10000
Can't watch your videos when you go for the handheld camera shots - plays havoc with my motion sickness......
Hi Alan Ive a mk 5 mondeo estate 15 plate tdci. Is my timing belt on a chain? as i thought it was always a belt.
They are all belt drive. Timing chain is on oil pump
@@nigalic ok thanks, do you think the chain should be changed at about 200000 miles
@@richardcruickshank4026 in 9/10 cases not. Regular oil change and drive.
what size engine do you have in your mondeo
@@alan4x i have the 2 litre diesel I’ve had a remap aswell taking it up to 190hp
a Ford specialist in action, toyotas are so much simpler, why on earth are this taxi company not using camrys or corollas?