An Honest talk about day of dragons
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2019
- A lot of accusations are flying around surrounding the upcoming indie game Day of Dragons. As I've made content on this game I felt I needed to address the latest news and what my feelings are. My honest feeling is that this was a passion project that has got out of hand.
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10% of comments: actually about the video
The other 90%: **OmG BeAveR yOur JeAns**
Mini Main Dawg that’s so true 😂
Yep
kinda annoying
“an honest talk”
*my jEaNs aRe DaRk bLuE1!!1*
Duskol lol
Honesty where its due XD
Lol
Lol
And not to mention he’s a Canadian. Y’all know Canadian stereotypes right?
For whatever reason I genuinely love theses talks Beaver gives, its honest and unbiased. Beaver is also very calm about this and still keeps it light hearted. Just wanted to express my appreciation, don't mind me.
Nerdy Scrub I agree with you on that. I too enjoy his honest, unbiased talks because honest talks like this are quite difficult to come by.
@@jurassicbread4279 there also difrent from his normal content witch is mostly comedic gaming.
Fang indeed!
Nerdy Scrub he’s like my dad
My first recommended videos were "The truth about day of dragons" and "An honest talk about day of dragons"... My heart just sank
I got really panicked about it as well, but not for long. I have a feeling that this game is going to turn out fine, and you can find evidence of this in several videos on Twitch which feature voice calls with DoD's developer. I recommend you watch a few of the videos on Twitch. They are a bit biased in favor of the game, but a lot of things are cleared up.
Yeah igp and gaming beaver.
I was looking so forward to this
Ya I was like
nonononono
This was supposed to be a game I can look forward to
:0
shadowcrash333 I agree...I hope it turns out for the better
Tujvtui
24 minutes without ads? That's how you know this is serious.
SMEPIC Mammott ..... there are 4 ads
@@kangeexx not for me.
@@GPPanda ms neither
@@kangeexx You just got unlucky, no ads for me either
Hi
Recreated in Unreal Engine, otherwise, brilliant video! Here's hoping there's a lot more transparency going forward, it could become an amazing game.
How's it going handsome.
you IGP and the gaming beaver should play the isle together
also im a subscriber to all of you
love your videos
You're a savage lmao
Icy!😎👌👍❤
*sees thumbnail of beaver sitting infont of the camera*
Me: oh boy this must be serious
Beaver: my jeans are dark blue and not black!
Me: wait what....
By PaNtZ Are DArK BlUe!!,,!,!!
Who remembers face cam Friday?
Its Already Taken who can forget face cam fridays
@@ItsAlreadyTaken35 FACE CAM SUNDAAAAYS
(uuu... Yeah!)
I see you’re a jojo fan.
They definitely seem like they are genuine in their desire to bring this game to life. They really need to hire folks that are much more experienced in the industry to coach them. If they make more mistakes, it will end up snowballing and crushing this project.
Lady Skeptic no, I don’t think I will.
@@Vainglory100 Cool
Just watch it ya dummy
Cassie Novak completely agreed!!
Help Me then despair when your hopes and support for this game are revealed to have been for nothing when you receive nothing from it
Literally not even 2 seconds into the video
James: Oh my god. These are dark blue and not black!
I feel like Beaver will be villanized by the hard Pro-DoD community now and may be the victim of a witch hunt, I really hope not.
Same, he is such a great dude, he doesnt deserve a witch hunt
Actually a lot of peps on here (supporters include) agree with beaver on a lot of point. This vid was a lot more civil then the IGP vid, which caused its own problems with trolls joining the server
Is there a hard Pro-DoD community already?
I would say something about “surely they watched the video and understand it’s not a hate thing, and nobody got mad at his opinion about ignoring PoT on baseless claims” but then I remember it’s the Internet we are talking about and toxicity can come from nowhere and at any time so whatever
A serious question do you honestly think a few thousand people are going to do anything on top of what he already probably gets?
I like beaver's video way more than IGPs. IGP was very call-out-y whereas this is a lot more neutral and honest. I really do hope the game ends up being something cool though :(
As soon as beaver talks about people being blocked
*BANNED*
Was thinking the same thing lol also was thinking I would love to see the answer they are giving in the discord. Like hey yep beta is stalled now cause we have to answer all of you but there just banning people left and right.
Which is not true if you actually go onto the discord they have answered most of the questions that they can about the game and they arnt “banning problem left and right” when they asked questions. They were blocked when they harassed the staff and developers telling them to kill themselves, scammers, lier’s, and hoping they get thrown in jail.
@@deadislander0167 They are banned for a reason and only complain about it but never tell the whole story. But to get any whole story you have to have a dialog with both parties.
He got banned?
@@ornat9145 Beaver himself didn't get banned but IGP did and after the video he made. In the interview that Anth had with Jao, Jao calls IGP a jerk and wants his channel taken down (which is a very childish thing to say in my opinion)
You should play the Isle with IcyCaress and IGP
I'd love to see a collab from my three favorite content creators
They would be hilarious
yes that would be great
Yea that would be great
I would LOVE this but I think Icy and Indie’s humour would be toned down a little because of course- they curse like sailors lol
nope
Normies: first
Intellectual: toast
No. Both the meme "toast" and "first" are dead
@@abrahamlincoln9160 No u.
Ultimate Trash Boy No, Team Break Mike?
@@phusle6028
That, unfortunately isn't funny
@@abrahamlincoln9160 Neither are you.
When he compliments his clothes at first😂
More like being surprised to find out that his new trousers are the wrong colour^^
Oddest Dylan comments, your cant complement yourself. And it’s spelled, “Complement.” NOT compliment. Compliment is like an agreement.
@@javabucket561 first of all com·pli·ment
noun
/ˈkämpləmənt/
a polite expression of praise or admiration.
Second of all com·ple·ment
noun
/ˈkämpləmənt/
1.
a thing that completes or brings to perfection.
Third of all *you
Before you criticize another's comment make sure you dont make a fool of yourself.
@@javabucket561 yes you can COMPLIMENT yourself
IHave NoIdeaWhatIAmDoing
Also, it’s you* and can’t*.
Don’t try to correct others. Look in a mirror.
Beaver they added Raptors to TABS.
O but Beaver there secret units.
Yay also add dragons to tabs
Miguel M true
@@minervamontealvo7757 they already did
I’m stoopid but what’s TABS?
knew this video was coming after i watched the IGP's video
Came here from IGP.
Same 0-0
The problem is that all of the assets are actually asset flips, NOT original assets, and there's almost no code to the game...
The problem isn’t that they aren’t original assets, that doesn’t make an asset flip. If nothing is done with the assets except use as is - such as the map being the demo map from the asset creator. Using assets as plug and play is an asset flip.
To be honest, I have never watched a video of yours before. That being said, I have extreme respect for you after this video. THIS is how a content creator needs to react to this situation, especially after supporting a game. The fact that you admit that you did no prior research and then present both sides fairly and equally is great. You bring up a lot of good points and the video is well done. Thank you for addressing it and being honest. I'm excited to start watching your content. Cheers.
I like how they said IGP "attacked" them when all he did was supply evidence lmao.
All haha funnies aside you got good points, Beaver. Devs need to realize it's not like we're attacking them, nor do we want the game to fail, we just want to know we're making a worthy investment.
Yeah and because of IDP many people told the developers to kill themselves and stuff he indirectly attacked the developers I know it wasn’t really a IGPs fault But so many people are blaming the developers and it just ticks me off
@@omegawerewolf9320 I mean all of that could've been avoided if the developer was just open and honest though right? Sorry I literally just fell into this rabit hole saw a new game about dragons and now all of this stuff. Regardless of what actually has been said by either party you have to admit to an outside view it's a little sketchy especially since the premise the dev put up first was he had amazing coding experience and that he was going to do all of this alone... which turned out to be a lie...
@@omegawerewolf9320 agree to disagree on that but you should if you haven't watch anthomnia video, someone from the dev team made a horrific threat about him pulling from it and a shit tone of other things, they're actually attacking a lot of ppl and jao himself is!
I get the impression that even with 500k raised they haven’t hired new staff yet, they really need to hire some more devs and get a PR representative.
Watch IGP and all answers will be revealed
@@icebird2381 No, people need to do their own research, not just rely on other people's videos.
M Timpson IGP provides research, and the sources to all of it (leaving links, playing audio recordings, etc). So no, it's not entirely relying on another's video. Links be in them descriptions for a reason: it's to prove the validity of the gathered information. If you still doubt, then check the validity of those links for yourself
@@evankurasu3190 I understand what you're saying and I don't disagree but i stand with what I've said. Even though this video was made recently there's been things addressed in their discord and that this video doesn't cover. If someone actually wanted answers they wouldn't rely on videos that hold old or incorrect information and instead go to the source and find things that validate or invalidate the video. It's just simply unwise to watch something and then assume that everything they're saying is correct.
M Timpson I suppose that's fair. We can only hope for a good outcome to all of this... in the meantime, we aught to stop throwing money at these devs until this whole shitshow gets resolved
I am also very angry that jao says that IGP "attacked" him when the whole video that IGP posted had only facts. Dont get me wrong, like beaver says there is a small bit of bias involved but does that really matter? Besides, his video told everyone to stop 'witch hunting' jao and his peers and even tried to explain that he doesnt want to cause an uproar. Then again...all of my arguements here are invalid and meaningless seeing as how i have been subscribed to IGP and beaver for years now and i havent even joined jao's discord.
dude its a comment, not an email.
@Kabliahk XD. Wow. That's the big truth.
@Kabliahk there is something known as a joke.
Yeah no igp’s video was attacking Jao wayyyy more than beaver’s video. Beaver did his way better.
It doesnt matter of igp was attacking him or not. Prove he was wrong or don’t say anything about his video at all.
Day of Dragons is in dire need of a PR manager.
Nah, It's in dire need of actual development.
@@KaminaCicada or just a bonfire to burn the shit
Beaves: alright time to make this video
Also beaves: *Oh my god, these are dark blue, not black!*
Me:............ What?
'An Honest talk talk about Day of Dragons' starts.
Beaver: My pants are dark blue, not black!
Me: Well, we are off to a great start. 😂
Michael VanDerZwet stafford shut you’re cute self up.
He does not say pants, he is not American
@@denmaster868 is pants an American thing? Do we know why?
@@llybophibjartskulr3799 yes, it is *trousers* in England, no idea why
Beaver: Wears double denim
Fashion police: STOP YOU VIOLATED THE LAW!
Nvm...i won't say anything
I think he looks good
@@ironclad184 agreed
@MrFr0stycave Pay the court a fine, or serve your sentence!
Quickkiller2880 your stolen goods are now forfeit
This whole Situation feels like it's straight out of a black mirror episode. The fact that everyone could make a game like that while getting literally hundreds of thousand dollars is really worrying.
I mean, on the first look, it seems like this guy was simply not prepared for the success this project had on kickstarter. Which is not an excuse for this Situation, because if you start a project, especially a project for a game, one of the most impactful, biggest and popular industries on the world, you should be prepared for anything that could happen. But this unexpected success he got makes me optimistic that he's a genuinely decent guy that is just overstrained with all that.
That he already contacted lawyers could simply be a sign that someone already took legal actions against him. That wouldn't suprise me since a lot of people payed A LOT of money for this game.
But i don't wanna speculate to much, time will show how this is going to end. I hope good.
War is gonna break out in the survival simulator game community if one more highly popular gaming channel makes a video uncertain about whats gonna happen in Day of Dragons
Yeah look at all those steam games.
Loyal gaming beaver fan!
have u written a book in the comment section?
John Cena lol calm down
Jao: "This is why developers don't get in touch with their communities."
Scott Cawthon: *Cough*
*Teach me the way of using Google search to make games*
That's my dream but I feel like I'm too dumb to get coding.
Y'know, biotech major but programming dunce, not a good combination in my opinion...
Its depend on the the game you want to create like 2D or 3D. Some program for coding python, cc+ and so much more for creating a game you can go in unreal engine. Some steps for creating a game
1- Idea ,some art concepts of your game, the story ( really important ),the logo. Ex: realistic, map in the desert, the story of the man and his sheep.
2- make a map in unreal engine or other program, make the models, make the menu of your game...
3- the texture, the painting, animating your model. Program: maya (not free) blender (free) zbrush( not free) substance painter ( not free).
4- coding ...
You felt the need to throw in a little brag, didnt you? Still, impressive though i heard biotech was pretty competitive
Tbh unity is pretty straight forward. The Unity website has these tutorial program like thing to show the basics. :D I suck at code and was able to do a bit.
@@shannonf101 oh yeah true i forgot about that one 😁
Unity has a block building for those who wants to get to the game making first
Thank you so much for discussing this trough and bringing your own opinions onto the table. I think its going to also have an impact on its own and also help to open up the things that IGP tried in his own video. Day of Dragon's Discord server is a mess right now because everyone are stressed, furthermore backers are scared of the developers to ban them because of their concerns for the game itself, and Jao and his team are not really helping with their act.
There are so many red flags on Day of Dragons.. i have a hard time trusting they will deliver, guess we’ll have to wait on the Beta to get some clarity
Hopefully this doesn't become another Mesozoica.
The game demo was based on basicly nothing, linked up pre-fab store bought content. So either they are now doing a lot of work to make this an actual game.. or there is no game at all
@@Radji0086 I'am sort of worried but this entire thing actually makes sense. It would take about 2 weeks for Jao to hire someone people to help his project, it's also safe to assume that he was not ready for the success of the Kickstarter and also because of the people's expectations to the game itself. Lawyers actually make sense because I don't remember but something happened with Dondi and a staff member and it lead to a piss poor case so it makes sense. However I don't like the behavior of theirs but it could probably all be due to stress.
Dious Thomas I have really strong doubts.. let’s forget everything the devs said so far and take a hard look at whats going on here:
1 or 2 Guys who start a kickstarter campaign for a game that can be made in 48hrs (!) based on store bought assets. Promote it as a 2year epic dragon game project with a great future, make $500k+ by accident(?) and suddenly turn all defensive and silent.
I would be surprised if we see any Beta at all
Well idk, i hope it all turns allright but from what you are telling me it seems to go abit under the expectations if y'know what i mean
So just making something clear, as someone who is also making a game, you need to have lawyers for literally every step pertaining to marketing, trademarking, registering, and so on.
There is also national and international law that also needs to be looked into, which is also where an actual lawyer comes in.
Not to mention hiring people will require a lawyer to write up proper contracts... Or you end up dealing with the shit Dondi did with the Isle when one guy decided to leave and set the game back two years as he walked away with the game code.
Beginning of IGP video:
"Hey guys, I don't want to defame the dev or the game but...." *crime music kicks in in the back ground*
Let us know when you're banned from DoD lmfao.
thats exactly what I thought
#1: There's definitely a problem if someone's more banhammer happy then the lord of grouchy devs, Dondi himself
#2: That pfp you got there is the best thing I've seen all day
I was just popping down here to say the same thing, but you beat me to it.
bans arent being thrown out like that. IGP was banned for twisting info in a way that incited utter chaos, as someone who has seen screen caps of his entire convo with Jao unblurred, and screen caps of other evidence where igp highlights info that is thrown into a completely different light in context
other bans are for repeat offences breaking pre set up rules
0:00 Lol, I didn't expected him to start talking about the color of his jeans. XD
It was actually called “consistent inconsistency’s”
Love you beaves 👍👍👍😂
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Honest talk? *Surprise*
**surprise*
"How do you even start something, like this?"
By talking about your pants, I guess.
Seriously though, I think *all* of this controversy could be avoided if they just gave us *screenshots* of the dragons they're working on. He doesn't need to make a video showing him work, just show us screenshots of the finished or partially finished dragons and/or map. Maybe even a gif of the dragon doing basic animations. I honestly don't think we're asking for much, but he makes it seem like we're asking for his first born son to be sacrificed to Cthulhu.
Well the dragons that are replacing the 3 place holders are being made by a modeler who was only just hired this month so I don't think they have alot to even share on that aspect either.
It's really bad timing that this drama comes out the month he has hired his modeler. Because both him and the modeler said that his contract didn't start until some time in October (this month).
They should just show what they have so far though, even if its not finished. But from a digital artist's perspective I can imagine showing a half made model could cause more issues, alot of people judge art even when it's still in sketching phase. And modeling, oof, that stuff takes a long freakin time and it might only look like a basic lizard blob at the moment. Like clay modeling, it always looks blobby and weird until they actually put the details on.
But yeah they should give some photos or maybe just teaser pics of it if they can.
@@whoahanant Even a basic lizard blob will help to quell some fears and anger. They can critique it to hell and back, but at least it shows that something is happening. (I know it sucks to have your work torn apart but ya know, its something you learn to shrug off.)
Lawyers are because some people will sue for anything. that's usually why you hire a lawyer when you win the lottery and such. some silly cases will win. its just in case. i agree on clarification though, but hes shown a lot
Not to mention when he is hiring people to work, he is going to need contracts and someone should NEVER try to write a contract himself or let the person they are hiring toss down a contract... Dondi from The Isle found that out the hard way and it set the game back years.
Have you checked out Path of Titans? I love how they practically livestream their work every day and show off their progress all the time
Not to mention how they handle backer rewards, explain their future plans and how much they communicate with their fans, PoT is basically a role model for games in developing imo
Ryaquaza 1 Exactly! And quite honestly as someone who’s currently studying to be a game developer myself it’s just so nice to actually watch the whole process go down, it’s just such a pleasant learning experience to kind of just...Sponge it up by just studying what they do, it’s kinda like a live demo if you’re trying to learn this stuff and I love it.
*FUCKING CUTE PLATYHISTRIX!!!!*
@@dirandrous7682 WE NEED TO FUCKING PLAY THAT CUTE ASS CREATURE
@@maiyiayangs8670 eehhh that's the bad part. We may not be able to play as Platyhistrix they said, because it's apparently to small and it might just be made a AI creature, buuut we dunno yet so Hope's up I guess.
**CUZ I WANT THAT LIZARD FROG***
While I agree that it's possible that this was just a passion project that blew out of proportion, that still doesn't explain or excuse the way Jao has been handling all of this. His behavior has been nothing short of unprofessional, unreasonable, and toxic. I've seen multiple people banned from the DoD discord for asking questions about these concerns, and they were being completely polite!
There is already a game where you can fly dragons around and eat other things, it's called Ark.
I got banned from the discord for asking about when we could see a beta and even asked if he planned to show a preview about some elemental dragons soon I got a heated text saying I was accusing him of running a scam when I never said that only asked basic questions and then got banned without a chance to defend myself
Jao is responding very toxic tbh :( hopefully all this will calm down soon...
You exactly said what I think of the game. We're in a grey zone. I think the only thing we can do is hope and wait
Yes. I probably spent $30 on the game and I didn't even know about the drama since I'm not really on Discord. I was just waiting for my early access and then this stuff comes out
@@carktheshark Yeahh sadly we can't do much than wait for now :/
When it comes to these, animal survival games, the same stuff happens always :/ knew it
This is something I've never understood. Just why? Why don't we really see honest to goodness large scale animal-based games?
Are they not profitable in the long-run or what.
@@kittyfiend Sadly, they're really not. Even fighting games struggle to maintain an audience, which is why fighting games are considered niche. That said, now picture the difficulty in making sure people will play a game to control dinosaurs or dragons. A goose messing around for the lol's, sure...but a dragon or dinosaur game, and people ask if this is serious (of course not us, but for the casuals yeah).
Times like these really make me wish Totalbiscuit was still around 🥺
Path of Titans: *livestreams creation of models and programming, constantly shares information with backers*
UA-camrs: Hmm, might be a scam
Day of Dragons: *buys stock assets and promises dragons*
UA-camrs: OH SHIT DRAGONS *collectively flush 500k down toilet*
Day of Dragons already has a 3-D model for one of their custom dragons circulating around, now, done by Jia Hao, a rather fantastic 3-D artist. They are hiring a full orchestra to studio record a soundtrack for the game. Considering the amount of interest the game is generating, they need to make sure that they have enough money to maintain servers and staff. The base game is said to be the initial 3 dragons plus another 20-30 dragons, all at the base price of $20. Those 30 dragons being DLC is not an accurate thing. There will be additional dragons added into the game and sold as DLC to help maintain and continue developing the game. There has been quite a bit of detail provided to the community about where all of the money from the Kickstarter is being allocated. There is no PR team for the game, just a handful of devs and moderators. An early beta is going testing out the servers for stress testing and have been going well, showing some good, solid server performance. I very much agree, that if people have concerns and don't want to buy the game or join the community, that's okay. Wait and see, the game will be released in early access November 21st. The acid spitter dragon is an incentive to anyone who missed the Kickstarter and want the game. To avoid Kickstarter backers feeling left out, they are given the option of paying an extra $9.99 to get that dragon in addition to their other exclusive dragons that were detailed out in the Kickstarter. There have been a lot of people that didn't join the community until recently who have been bringing a lot of negativity and causing issues for the community. The Kickstarters who have been there since joining have all been paying attention as the developers have been very transparent with what's going on. I hope this helps enlighten anyone who might have some questions about what's going on with the project. All the best, guys and gals!
Oh I forgot, they have also hired the guy who did the sound effects for Subnautica to do so for this game.
Source??
@@dontatmeev3r Source? Being active in the community discord for several weeks, reading all the releases made by the developers, and listening to Q&As.
paid dlc for early access games in general is a big no no and you should expect backlash if you try something like that (look at Ark and scorched Earth for example)
In any case I'm not following the situation to closely and I think they cancelled that idea?
@@Destroyerz117 So far I am uncertain whether the acid spitter dragon will be available only as preorder incentive (included with the base $20 price of the game and available to Kickstarter backers as an option for $9.99 more so they can have all the exclusives if they so desire) or whether it will just be made available as a $9.99 DLC for everyone at any time. Based on what I've heard, I'm leaning toward the former, meaning it will only be an extra charge for people who have KS backed and already own the game through that. However I am not 100% on that.
To this day I’m still seeing kids asking beaver if he’s gonna play the game again or if he’s gonna do a giveaway
Any game that hides content behind pay walls is bound for failure to me, I do have hope for DOD but that isn't fair and is far to damn sketchy...
Beaver: Posts video talking about DoD
Jao five minutes later after banning Beaver: Gone, reduced to atoms
Did he really get banned?
Not as far as I can tell, the DoD discord community seem to be less reactive to it
@@LoinkLoink just checked hes still in there
I’ll be interested in seeing how this goes beaver, I hope you keep us in loop. I hope this works and I love the idea of day of dragons, looks awesome!
Thank you for posting this video Beaver! I had no clue about this situation until this, so I really appreciate it. :)
That audio drop reminds me of 2015 gaming beaver hasbro toy reviews
Beavers: Titles video “An honest talk of Day of Dragons”
Jao: *bans Beavers from the disc*
Did he really? I am not on that discord so I can't check
@@avatar120pl3 no he didn't people need to stop commenting it. If it happens then comment but it hasn't and people are confusing others.
Guys you realise this is a joke
One of my degrees was in game design. I took a couple of classes on 3D
animation using 3DS Max, the same program Bethesda, EA, Activism,
Bioware, etc. use to create their 3D models.
Each class we had to
make MULTIPLE models, animate them, skin them, rig them, etc. A class
is 15 weeks. So, in 4 months we had to make 2 full models (rigged,
skinned, animated, etc.) and several practice models (complete models
that don't need full animations or skinning).
For someone who
knows what they are doing and doesn't have other classes... You could
easily make 30 dragons in a year. Especially with all the copy and
pasting abilities in the program. Base model, make numerous copies of
it, add extra to each model to make it unique, animations all can be
copied over from one... Saves a lot of time.
Then on top of this
the programming.... For a game like this, or at least the plan of it, no
one programmer can do. I mean, they could, but it would take a LOT of
time. No programmer would ever want to do this on their own... They
would hire help.
And I had to make sound for one of my game
design classes. Sure, you can find sounds online to use, but for basic
things. Like animal sounds, room ambience, walking, etc. For more unique
sounds, like for dragons, you can't buy that. You have to make it and
edit it yourself.
For those who never been in a game design
class, take one if your university offers any. The college I went to had
a huge gaming department and many of the professors worked for huge
gaming companies. Like my animation professor worked at Bethesda, EA,
Activism, and some smaller companies. So, very legit. Several of my
professors owned their own small game companies.
The amount of
time, knowledge, and just everything involved can't be done by one
person. Not for big time games. Maybe games like original Mario, yes,
one person can make that in a couple of days. But nothing like these 3D,
multiple animations, large map, etc. games.
So, yeah, this is
definitely a scam. If it was legit he would be hiring help. Because if
he was truly trying to make this game he'd be crying if he was on his
own.
But, even scarier? My stalker sounds a lot like this guy and
my stalker also claims to be making some game and one of their early
lies about me was that I could never make a game like their because my
art was "ugly." Their newest lie is I "trace" my art... They also make
up lies about my dog...
Anyway, anyone who acts like the stalker
who is trying to MURDER me and has caused me to have to legally change
my name and live in hiding is definitely a terrible person. Don't trust
this guy!
www.watchdominion.com
I also am a major dragon fan... Look up "The Vegan Dragon." Here's my website: www.thevegandragon.info
Why did he have to be doing this to a game I want to see come to fruition?!
I've asked a couple of UA-camrs that support this game and asked this question via comment "What are your thoughts on Day of Dragons and the issues concerning it's legitimacy?"
I'm glad I didn't have to ask you. Because this seems very suspicious. And this is just how I feel but anthomia rubs me the wrong way. I cannot stand people taking advantage and getting over on others I agree IGP's video at times does seem bias but at the same time he points out very valid reasons. There are alot of contradictions from what joa has said in different videos. I will say it can be a case of inexperience dealing with people as far as being a new dev but he should be able to show proof. Sure there is a chance he is over his head but he would do better just by saying that. I'd like to see this game to succeed but from what I've seen and researched it's not looking good. I also agree what you are saying James.
Anthomia is part of the youtube algorithm problem. Even when I get myself a new device with nothing on it, I can't get him off my youtube recommendations! Dx It's clear anthomia and many other tubers shill out.
Well anth hasn't made his video on this yet and he gains nothing from backing the game either. Both Anth and Beaver blindly did the same thing. Although he has clickbaity videos he hasn't really done anything more than anyone else.
If anything Anth is the only one who is left who can get an interview with Jao on this whole topic unless he also gets banned for something.
Anthomnia blindly backed the game up so he is in the same situation as Beaver. And if I'am not mistaken an old former Subnautica developer named Simon so yeah it seems that he didn't know about this thing.
@@Spinoterror31896 When I remove a video on the mobile app, it gives me the option to stop seeing content from the user. I did this with a couple of youtubers and haven't seen their videos in my feed since.
Lol the BestInSlot Beaver Swrve thing again! That was my content to Frontier
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very good video thankyou so much for being so level headed i hope jao really sees this and listens to you genuinely
If approximately 12 000 people backed it and they raised approximately 500 000 then each person donated APPROXIMATELY 41 dollars and 75 cents
This is a more passive way to describe what’s going on. Good job my man and I think your right about inexperienced because $12,000 is all he wanted and he gets half a million US and people who really care about the future of the game and that put pressure on anyone
Video about the DoD beta build! So much better now
I love that he used the same back round music from the Little Nightmares theory videos!
i was sick while watching this video and i felt better
great job, keep it up!
I think you start with the 3 dragons and kick starter dragons then give more over time so start with what you promised then add updates to the game as needed
We've got your back, we've got this game's back, we've got everything's back
First video in a while with 0 ads, thanks ;)
its awesome for you to drop a video on the same day as my birthday makes my day 10 times better
Me: Does this sound like a horrer movie cuz the music
Beaver: Add the scary music!!!!!!!
Let me just point this out. 3 dragon models. Shouldnt cost. $12,000 dollars. An average 3d modeller with the necessary tools can create their own high poly 4k texture 3d models in a solid 100 hours or less of cumulative work doing said modelling. 3 dragons, 300 hours. Who the hell is he paying $40 an hour to 3d model?
It sounds to me like he planned on raising $12,000 to make 3 dragons at roughly $1,000 a piece, and pocketing the rest, but now he's got way more money so hes trying to figure out how to convince people that what he's promissing is really expensive. That way he can walk away with 100s of thousands of dollars while we are none the wiser.
Edit: Also for anyone who may try to use model rigging and animation as reasoning for the extra cost. Let me remind you. The kickstarter was to raise $12,000 to pay a 3d modeller for 3 dragon MODELS. Not for models AND rigging AND animation. Even then the cost still shouldnt be $12,000 dollars.
For reference, AAA game devs typically spend around $80,000 dollars for concept art, modelling, rigging, textures, animation, animation sequencing, and programming FOR THE ENTIRE GAME. Yeah... all of that, for the entire game, for a AAA title. $80,000 price tag. And hes spending an entire 8th of that on 3 models? Really? I call bullshit.
TheGamingBeaver
will you play the pax west build for Prehistoric Kingdom?
Thank you for doing this, its so good to hear how you look at these things. The game maker needs to release a press statement giving progress and deadlines. its not hard to do. I fear people have been diddled here
Can you check out this game again, its a had a huge overhaul and seems to be going in the right direction
That moment a talk about a game gives you tips for when you become a game developer
PatDoesUA-cam ._. oooh are you going to develop a game???
@@jurassicbread4279 eventually, once i have the software and skills to do so, I have my own concept art and such but that's about it as of now
@@ImmortalGene What game are you going to do man. I probably suggest you start out with a simple parkour game.
@@diousthomas8878 going to be making a mmorpg kinda game, but I'll definitely start small and work my way up to it
@@ImmortalGene Sounds good.
Glad your covering this soon as info came out.
omg ive watched so many videos, just hearing a voice.
your appearance is really nice too xD im surprised sorry
nothing bad from this or anything just genuinely impressed by your appearenca and ur aura xD
Have you had a look at Path of Titans yet? Their development has been amazing to watch!
Last time I was this early you were playing pokemon x and y competitive
You think he's gonna play Sword or Shield?
Cintrón Productions if we ask we shall receive
Haha!
I'm going to be passive and see how things turn out, then I'll make my judgements. I really love the concept and I hope things will be honest and great! Thanks for addressing this!
I haven’t backed it, but I hope he does deliver with this game.
Considering how Jao is admittedly the ONLY coder on this project, it's laughable to say there's a Dev team.
you know its bad when the lead dev of the isle clownes on DoD
The music that starts hella reminds me of when the car wont shut up that you have the door open or no belt on lol
+respect for no ads
explain to me how the lil test area and the dragon looks far better than the actual game lmao.
Wow, I’m impressed that James is making a serious review about a game he tried out. Well done, James Beavers. Love your goofiness every day but this is a nice palate cleanser.
I thought your video was in the video section of there discord? Did they ban the beaver? Did they delete that post? Or am I just thinking about something else?
beaver : how do you start something like this...
me : ....
Beaver : MY JEANS ARE DARRKK BLUEEE!?!!!!!
What I strongly dislike is his team when answering questions about the kickstarter rewards, they act as if it's our "privilege" which would be true if it wasn't money spent from the backers. At that point with the project, when making promises in the business standpoint the backers are your consumers. Yes they support the game but that support goes both ways. He has 500k, he was supposed to bring forth 3 dragons and now his team is handling things very poorly. They need to just release a quick statement of clarifications, probably apologize to how everything has been so unprofessional, stop bickering with trolls in the server (they do it too often, it's bad), and overall just focus on the original goal. Get something solid first then build up. To make matters worse they kick excuse after excuse. I had a mod state that they don't have to give anyone beta access when... their kickerstarter packages were promoted for beta access as a main seller. If you do not "have to give" us beta access that we paid for, then you don't have to get consumer support.
And while I understand the dev wasn't expecting so much then he shouldn't have added nonstop tier rewards. You know at that point you're going to get money. He would have gotten more if the kickerstarter date was longer. As much as he probably hates the word but to me he got greedy along with his ambition, losing focus on what people were backing for in the first place. He CHOSE to keep adding tiers to get more money so he should have made proper preparations asap to handle the backlash when consumers feel him and his team are not being transparent. They have half a million, half a million to go into the game and the team excuses unprofessional-ism and rash behaviors on their end. What will be this game's downfall if not checked, will be his own team if they do not get it together and stop acting on impulsive emotion rather than strategic and business planning decision making. (I'm aware they're human so don't come at me about that lmfao but they need to step up to the plate and quickly learn).
Oh and threatening and holding "we can take your beta key away" over people's heads is also a huge red flag. I seen a mod or two elude to it a few times. Also what is concerning is Icy's animations. I believe Jao said the animations he has in DOD are original animations. This would imply him or his whole team made the animations themselves. But I'm not 100% on this so don't take that as fact. If this is true though, the animations are similar if not almost nearly identical. That's another major red flag as that would counter what he stated.
And this is James being serious? I love it
I just found about this today... wow this is deep. And here I am, battling with funds and stuff making my own game knowing people will feel doubtful once they see my location [Nigeria] and someone is being sketchy with all the support he got. Really really gets me in a bad mood. We can only wait to see what happens I guess.
Where do you get all of those background music?
Rule 1 of game design: Design the game, first.
Hi beaver it’s been a while since I watched your video
Fancy some wensleydale?
I like how you are unbiased and it seems like you want to help Jao instead of putting more pressure. Thank you, Beaver. I agree about what you said about IGP's video.
Thank you for clearing that up for us Beaver, I am now in the know
Seriously... Rosedragon016 (one of the devs of the game) posted this video on the #video channel of the discord server then Jao logged on and POOF! It's gone.
And I'm pretty sure he banned Beaver too since he's not on the Content Creator tab anymore...
At this point, he's digging himself the grave of his "game" before it even launched. He keeps banning people who ask legitimate questions and don't even take the time to answer them or explain to the people who PAID to support his project.
This smells like bullshit.
Next video title is: I've been banned on the day of dragon discord server 👁️🔎
James Morrison Why would he be? lol he was really nice about it and didn’t twist info like IGP
@@larrygaroth9773 it's a joke
@@larrygaroth9773 Twist info? How did IGP twist info? He basically summarized the document containing all of the raised concerns about DoD.
I asked a lot of questions in the dod discord and i have yet to be banned. Stop thinking everyone Will be banned for asking questions.
@@BlueKitzune03 it a joke lol. You the one taking it serious 😂
not to detract from the video, but hey, can you please PLEASE tell me where you got those legend of zelda posters?
I just realized what IGPs name stands for, never thought it would come from beaver
As much as I love anthomnia, he is naive and too excitable about anything and everything. He needs to be more careful with who he supports and promotes. I don't want this to blow up in his face bc he was excited about dragons.