The Real End Of Evangelion
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Did Evangelion's Shinji finally grow up?
Evangelion's Rebuild has finally, apparently, come to an end. But what does Shinji's epic journey all mean? Let's find out with the help of Søren Kierkegaard in this Wisecrack Edition: Evangelion's Leap of Faith.
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00:00 - Intro
03:32 - Isolation and Despair
09:37 - Don't Stop Believing
14:25 - Shinji and Gendo
16:16 - Conclusion
Written by Michael Luxemburg and Ross McIndoe
Hosted by Michael Burns
Directed by Michael Luxemburg
Motion Graphics by Jackson Maher
Edited by Andrew Nishimura
Video Title Card by Amanda Murphy
Additional Production Assistance by Matias Rubio & Olivia Redden
Produced by Evan Yee
Music courtesy of Epidemic Sound
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Which do you like better? The Evangelion show or the Rebuild?
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The Show.
I found it cathartic? Anno is known to be outspoken about the direction of anime culture in japan as becoming hyper consumerist rather than a medium for artistic expression and innovation. He half blames the success of Evangelion in the early 90s because of it. I found the rebuild movies a kind of closure.
All the pilot's maturity both physical and mental could even be thought of as to letting them go. When Asuka says "not aging is the curse of the Eva" might literally mean its the curse of the show, that the collective view of these characters have not changed for almost 20+ years and the merchandise bought and sold is evidence of that.
I like all as a whol
Whole*
I don't think you can separate the two. The Rebuild takes the assumption that you've seen the anime, and every diversion it takes from the original narrative adds meaning to and comments on the original.
From a visual standpoint, the original anime is more impressive, but Rebuild I think is a necessary addition to complete the narrative in a satisfying way. (And there's a manga that's totally bitchin' that also builds onto the extended narrative.)
As a young teen, I was harsh on Shinji for being "weak" and running away from his "cool" destiny of piloting an awesome giant robot while being unaware of being a hypocrite who is trying to run from my own teenage problems. I took around 20 years to realize that the thing I considered Shinji to be weak for, was done by *every single adult* in the series. Every adult in the series is struggling with their own issues and rather than dealing with it themselves they push it onto Shinji, a freaking *14 year-old* who definitely reacting in the only reasonable way. I find it very fitting that the true answer to Shinji's plight is not "rationally" using a time-loop to find a perfect answer but the irrational leap if faith of emotionally "growing up" and talking out his issues with his father.
You perfectly illustrated how my thoughts about Shinji evolved as I grew up
The thing is that Shinji reached a level of understanding of the self in the finale of the anime, choosing not to have instrumentality, but many of the fans were displeased due to the wholly cerebral ending and the budget missing to animate those episodes properly. The show made money afterwards, which is why we got EoE, but that was a different cycle than the one the show had, and Anno took out a lot of his frustrations through it, which is why it's so bleak. The rebuild series has Shinji break the cycle, likely because in addition to Shinji getting a better resolution, he also brings Gendo to a better resolution. The ending of the series was a good ending, but it wasn't the "best ending". Now we have that best ending for all, since there's no need for the Eva's and that means there's no need for the hardships that caused issues for many of the characters in the series. They can all move on and live.
You should read the Evangelion manga someday. Shinji is more macho there. The plot is more or less the same as the original show, but it goes more in depth.
I was more confused as to why Shinji was wasting his time helping all the douchebags around him instead of just keeping his head down and focusing on school.
@@CoralCopperHead Besides his unresolved issues his father over their shared grief of their mother/wife's death, the imminent apocalypse, and the fact that his mech is powered by his mother's soul and thus only usable by Shinji?
Probably because he is dealing with a ton of deep psychological issues that he does not know how to deal with (along with the psychological issues of his primary caretaker, his roommate, the doctor that is in love with his dad, his dad, and the faceless council of murder-suicidal adults), that school does not seem like a big priority.
If only Rei's dinner party would have worked out. Having Shinji and Gendo work their feelings and differences in a welcoming environment aided by a bit of booze the Rebuild of Evangelion would've ended in the second film.
pretty much, but wouldn't have made for a good quadrology
To be honest, movies 3 and 4 could have been consolidated together into a single movie have they not modified the lore. The extra Eva's and new spears were totally unnecessary. And the ships were a distraction. Instead they should have explained Mari's background because it is interesting.
@@kevinclass2010 Nah I beg to differ. The fourth film is the super glue that make the other three film made sense. The third film, as weird as it is, expanded the universe; While the fourth close it.
And Mari is a welcome pace in the tetralogy. She was firstly seemed like a disconnected, happy-go-lucky person in a depressing world. But because she doesn't have those background lore, I started to accept her as a character without any baggage; which is carried by the rest of the cast on those series.
If only the SSDF hadn't failed in End of Evangelion
One of the greatest what if imo
Throwing shade at Hikaru Utada is unforgivable.
I dont think the comparison should be made in the first place, Zankoku no Tenshi fits for the what the series was back then when it started, but Beautiful World is more fitting for what the Eva has become today. Not to mention one is the opening song and the other plays during the end credit
One last kiss is generic. 👎
@@chickenflavor9880 you’re generic. Take your negativity elsewhere
@@chickenflavor9880 I thought Sakura Nagashi was the better song. Favorite Utada song from Rebuild.
I mean! Wanted to throw ever insult possible at this uncultured dude.
The teenager in heart can finally rest knowing Shinji is gonna be okay
Well Asuka did not get her deserved ending so forever frustrated now
@@SM-ce1uy well in the rebuild ASUKA looks to be ok though ,so i think asuka got a happy ending. sure people wanted her to end up with shinji but asuka herself told shinji that she USED to like him which means she had moved on and so had shinji too.
@@atharvashinde4905 girls lie bro :)
@@SM-ce1uy asuka craved for approval, maybe this is why she looking approval from everyone around her in her best way she could especially toward Shinji. this rebuild kinda give her character enlightment in order to get rid her approval issue she have to approved others first. maybe this why in the end we saw asuka got love approval by Shinji after she admit her love for Shinji 14th years ago.
now she realized, others people approval is not an achievement rather it is a consequences/result of approving others which is made she clear about her feeling toward Shinji isnt love instead an affection that crave for approval.
@@SM-ce1uy Well, she fixed her issues, had a heart to heart with Shinji, got her adult body and If I'm not mistaken, the movie hinted that she'll find happiness with Shinji's friend the one with the glasses. I admit that last one came outta nowhere (although we see both of them interact more often than usual in this last movie) but it was satisfying enough for me. Asuka has been acting way too toxic towards Shinji to end up with him in my opinion.
6:58 "cool plan, but I'll stick with therapy"
To be fair how many stories do we all know would never have happened if the characters went to therapy
All of the Star Wars movies
Trollhunters. Voltron. And She-Ra, just to name a few. :3.
Would it be entertaining without drama?! What are you really asking for?
Tony Soprano went to therapy...
There wouldn't exist any of the "romance" movies to start with.
I won't have anybody disrespect utada hikaru's theme songs, all three major theme songs - Beautiful World, Sakura Nagarashi and One last kiss are phenomenal
These songs give me chills after having watched the Finale. I am here for them.
@SNES Nes that's ok, one can always have a personal preference. I for one, loved it, in fact its been on my daily mix since I watched the movie
I didnt like one last kiss. They should have just played A Cruel Angels Thesis instead.
@@chickenflavor9880 Considering the viewpoint of asking the fans to let go of the past and Evangelion, playing the most iconic and beloved song in said franchise at the end of the movie seems counterintuitive.
@@ARIEZKAGE True. But the song sucks.
Being a fan of Evangelion ever since first watching it, as a little kid, not much younger than Shinji, deepening my understanding of its complexities from a giant robot show to a deconstruction of its characters, their author and the viewer, I can gladly say that the series ended on a perfect note.
Gendo's liberty and Shinji's cure is something that I'll carry for the rest of my life and since I identify myself very much too Shinji, something that I'll try simulate.
It's strange. I feel like the rebuild series was terribly underwhelming. This last movie was no exception. Lots of unnecessary fan service, empty theological references (the original had meaning to the plot, although Anno loves to troll saying it doesn't) and TERRIBLE action scenes. It wasn't nearly as complex and deep as the originals. But I absolutely LOVED this last movie. It was garbage. It just didn't give a shit about the series "standards", coming even to the point of parody (nothing convinces me otherwise, the "pseudo-instrumentality" section had MANY parody moments, like that TERRIBLE cgi scene of the evas battling in the most pathetically ridiculous way... even the scenario was a set!). It felt like Anno just giving a big middle finger to what people glorify about the series. Think about it: the scene where Asuka force-feeds Shinji is IMPECCABLY animated, and so the scenes where Rei is planting rice. And I LOVE it. It's all about the character's feelings and personal development. Did we "need" this movie, in the sense that the series needed closure? Absolutely no. EoE was more than enough to close everything and to convey what Anno believed. But it sure is amazing to watch this last movie and see all the characters having their happy endings (well, most of them...). Most of all, finally seeing Shinji grown up, developing all his virtues into a healthy life. It makes me happy for Anno, too. It makes me feel that this was not only Shinji's growth, but his too. I don't know if he is a good person, but as much as I feel connected to his work I can only feel very happy for him.
In summary: Thrice upon a time wasn't a conclusion. It was a goodbye. A heartfelt, intimate goodbye. One that I loved, that made me very happy. The original series will forever be there, as it always had. But we can finally feel, after all this time, that Shinji and Anno finally grew up, and found hope. And I think that this is why we can finally say it: Goodbye, all of evangelion!
@@gustavogoesgomes1863 Anno not satisfied with how Eva turned out, he tried to make new project but can't move on, this is his way to express himself fully with no regrets and attachment left to move on. Based on what Anno said in NHK documentary
Same here!
When i saw azuka's clones, all i could think is how she despises dolls and becoming disposable, and the evangelion fandom made the concept of asuka a DOLL, sometimes erotic sometimes by shipping characters. They got rid of azuka's hatred and feelings. She sadly bacame a doll for the public. The image of being cloned like rei was horrific for me.
Damn
There's much to say about the fandom, yeah...But I think even being a clone, this Asuka did grow up, and find something else than hatred. She accepted to like Shinji before, in a way of saying "I'm not that person anymore; I am myself" and I liked that. Just like Rei grew to be part of a community and have feelings, not just follow orders.
Yeah but there's still that feeling of anno disliking evangelion fandom .
I love evangelion because there's no ultimate truth or strict meaning its about feelings, therefore everyone feels / reflects different .
What i just saw its a tired Anno. Tired of the same thing over and over he's showing us how he grew , and ask us to grow as well.
Asking to live in a world without evangelions, its a direct feeling of anno. The need to move to other proyects and stop these loops its shown in the movie. We all need to move on.
Damn....
The only person that made Asuka a ‘doll for the public’ and ‘disposable’ was Anno himself. He stated in an NGE-era interview that Asuka and Rei as female characters existed for both long-haired and short-haired preferences respectively. The commercialisation of both the Evangelion franchise and the characters affirms this, with Gainax approved media such as the Shinji Ikari Raising Project and Girlfriend of Steel existing purely for fanservice. The amount of fanservice in the Rebuild films also affirms this. Don’t tell me you don’t notice those needless shots of Asuka and Rei that add nothing to the narrative. However clearly these characters morphed into more than just ‘preferences’ and alongside that decision, so did the vision for NGE. But cmon, how are gonna say the Evangelion fandom perceives Asuka as an ‘erotic doll’ when the creators force that perception on us?
Now I’m not arguing whether or not this should or should not be included; that is an entirely different argument. I’m arguing that Anno recognizes the commercialisation of his characters and supports it’s in some form. However I do agree that in same way, shape or form, the ending of 3.0+1.0 is somehow metonymic of our placement and value of Evangelion as a form of escapism, and that he is arguing that we should move on and live - in a world without Evangelion. But that poses the question - Why is he including so much fanservice? Why does Girlfriend of Steel and the Re-Take manga exist? If this was truly the message he wanted to convey, then why does his actions contradict this?
It’s just confusing. I want to believe your interpretation and I believe it advances the message and value of Evangelion but there’s so much stacking against it.
Just watched it two nights ago. I Liked it, I liked how meta it got, and I appreciate that Hideaki Anno did it kind of gently. No more Evangelion, but also not the world is annihilated or anything. Well it is, but it gets better.
To Anno: congratulations
@@garrisonjones1827 Congratulations to Anno he deserves it
No more evangelion for a few years probably
@@somebadcandy9332 yeah, Anno is currently lined up with his ultraman and kamen rider movies so i think you are right about how we can expect no eva for a while
@@somebadcandy9332 The series is open to retreads by other creators as a more philosophical kind of Gundam. But Anno was pretty decisive about ending his Evangelion, and this decades-long arc of his life. Not that Anno won't come back to it but something closer to Eureka Seven is more likely.
We need WAYYYYY more evangelion videos; it’s insane how much is there beneath the surface
There already way too many Eva videos.
You think that's bad they never did a single episode about Jim henson's dinosaur deepest consumerism satire I've ever seen.
Granted, the show is interesting and subtle but maintain a flow of an entertainment plot, but I think most of the videos about it focuses on the mind part of the show, but I truly think Anno's intention is much more of an emotional one. His work don't communicate his ideas, rather his emotions. That's why, ultimately, I think discussion about philosophy when it comes to Evangelion is essentially side-tracking. I think it evokes such emotion that people can't help but express it, trying to understand what evokes them. I think it's a show that doesn't need that much investigation.
In term of movies, I think a comparison to something such as Twin Peaks and The Matrix comes to mind. Twin Peaks has a lot of ideas about the spirit, but it is expressed emotionally. Meanwhile, The Matrix approach is much more intellectually. Characters don't express emotion, they express ideas. Evangelion is very emotional, so it doesn't need to be dissected, it just need to be discussed.
There really isnt that much beneath the surface. The dude used alot of biblical references because it sounded cool, and he was depressed when he created the series. Thats about it
@@taboowriter9229 lol ya I’ve analyzed things and looked at the behind the scenes and there really isn’t all that much too it, but fans will always do the most and completely blow things out of proportion and try to analyze things to say there is a lot more than there actually is lol
Don’t make it more difficult for yourself, take things at face value and don’t assume things have a triple meaning and then dive into patterns and signs that aren’t actually there
"Whatever this is"
Hey. Hey. I will not stand for this Utada Hikaru disrespect!
@Peter Mann
I agree.
Yeah when I heard that it’s like saying I never watched any anime. I do not know how many theme songs she has done.
Thank you!!! Utada Hikaru is absolute royalty and Beautiful World is a bop!
@@jesters16 This guy was a moron in multiple ways, this was one example, but he also for example completely misunderstood Rei in her entirety. He kept saying she was closing herself off as a means of coping. No. That's just wildly incorrect. She's distant and closed off because she is a fucking clone with faulty emotions. Asuka blatantly says this in 3.0+1.0. She tells Ayanami that they both have "inefficient emotions" because they are imperfect clones made by Nerv.
That's a pretty specific example of his getting things wrong. But honestly he grossly misinterpreted half the things he mentioned in this video. He clearly has no idea what he's talking about when it comes to Eva. And his slander of Utada Hikaru's music is just icing on the cake. Perhaps the most egregious example of him being oblivious in fact. Literally never heard a single person speak negatively about Utada Hikaru's music.
@@whirlwind872 to be honest this is literally the first time I ever watched Evangelion and was actively avoiding it because the first episode my friend showed me was the one involving Asuka’s death so I was a little turned off. The funny thing is Mari’s fight with Zeruel got me interested, so I watched everything. I completely agree with you on Rei. But damn her whole story is depressing. But they all have depressing stories except Mari. Mari literally drops in from nowhere. As far as Utada goes I was in Japan when her first solo album dropped (Yes I am old) she was on every billboard and poster all over Tokyo. Anywhere music was playing it was one of her songs. So I was hooked.
2:59 You did not just talk shit about Beautiful World. I love that song, which means everyone else has to, too. But seriously, do people not like this song? I always thought it was a wonderful and catchy pop song. Also, the song that plays during the final battle of the first film is amazing. Just makes that scene so much more powerful.
That battle song immediately brings on _all of the feelings..._
Plus it's freaking Hikaru Utada. She does good stuff.
All of Utada's Eva soundtracks are awesome this guy doesn't have a clue.
@@LemonTangWang Yeah seemed like bit of a weird take to me. They said it like they thought everyone felt the same as them.
'final battle of the first film ?'..from what I remember the song starts playing on the credit roll after Shinji checks in on Rei (which was *right after* the fight ended)
"Whatever this..." lol Beautiful World and Sakura Nagashi slap, as does One Last Kiss.
When Kaworu says, "There is hope. There is always hope" it was strangely comforting for some reason. Now I know why ; )
Mari's interpretation as his girlfriend is a bit of a sketch. Mari is the same age his parents, and in the world without Eva, she shows no sign of ageing despite Shinji ageing normally. This part is pure meta, and as you have interpreted, Mari's lack of characterisation and more importantly, her lack of connection with Shinji, which is actually Anno, symbolises the world outside of Evangelion. She and Shinji are all on one side of track, going to a different direction to the rest of the cast on the other side. He no longer wants to have anything to do with the series, feeling drained and exhausted by his greatest success. She's not meant to represent Shinji's final fulfilment of a relationship, but Anno's fulfilment of escaping the hell that is Evangelion, to him. Mari was a problematic character that the creators admitted to have trouble finding a place, being created primarily to sell merchandise. Her role in the story, in the end was enclosed into that, because that's the only place where she fits. I think, Anno being Anno, if he truly sees her as a love interest role for Shinji, she would have gotten the proper treatment, characterised, backstory explored, and properly showing her ageing and affectionate with Shinji, like Kaworu. I don't think Anno likes the idea of having Shinji alone on a train going away from Evangelion, having Mari is perfect for that, since she don't fit in the story, yet encapsulate a very important concept for him, emotionally. Many people interprets her a representation of his wife. I think that only applies for the ending only. He didn't suggest anything of the sort.
nah bro Shinji was just going through all this trouble to bag Mari. My boy was playing the long game all along. That sly mfer haha
I completely agree with you. Mari is implied to work for a third party and it's not even disclosed. She is a character created not from Anno's own idea but the producer Ootsuki's request, and Anno had to make her fit into a role that he even had to replace some of the original characters' relationships for her to finally have a place lol. In my opinion she feels just like a vague addition despite her role as one of the female lead characters... I'm really sorry Maki fans.
So Shinji escaped the metaphorical/psychological hell that is being a protagonist in Eva, only to end up in the literal hell that is being a modern-day salaryman in Japan.
I'm not sure if that is an improvement.
I rather take barren wasteland with hot chick who also went same shit as I did. Than modern world but I don’t know anymore.
Similar to what Gigguk said in his video, the majority of people will probably enjoy the series, but the only way to truly appreciate and understand Evangelion, is to have gone through that mindset. It's not simply something you can empathize with. You would have needed to have been in that dark place in order to actually appreciate the themes and message.
Or you could keep goin and watch the Rebuild movies, theyre a whole lot more “happier”
Not really. I think what's beautiful about the show is that it's multifaced. The show works on all levels. There's the intellectual levels with conspiracy, plots, background details and discussion about people's interaction. Then, those are supplemented by terrific, ahead of its time animation quality, something often not mentioned by the fans. Intersect those 2 are the characters, who were written according to Anno's, as representation of himself, different parts of them. They embodies Anno as a thinker, Anno as an animator and Anno as a person. Of course, because it went off the rail in the middle, the person part came to the forefront and became the face of the fandom. All of that works, and were appreciated, not just the emotional part. That's why Evangelion is great, because it is really a work of passion. Every aspects of it are expression of its creator, not merely a vehicle to sell toys.
I saw all of Evangelion last week for the first time and I´m very happy that I did now that I´m older, bacause I realized that at some point in my life I was Shinji, as probably a lot of nerds were, and I felt all those feelings of loneliness and sexual repression. I felt bad for him because I knew how it felt. Thankfully now that I´m older I know that there are ways to get out of that horrible place, because I did got out, and I´m very glad that HIdeaki Anno also got out of that place and is encouraging people to do the same. I´m not special in any way, I´m just a simple guy and if I did get out of there, then there´s no reason why anybody can´t.
OG is better, just my opinion
When I first watched neon genesis evangelion I was in a good point in life and I truly had no idea wtf I watched. Right now I admit that I’m not in a very good place in life mentally, and rewatching NGE, EOE, and the rebuilds it was easier to understand I did have to do reasesrch on the lore with Adam, Lilith, all impacts and before ancestor entities. But in all I believe you have to be or have gone through a dark mindset to grasp the movie without a lot of researching to do
Third time's the charm! Anno seems to have ended Evangelion for real this time and it's a explicitly happy ending.
I love how FINAL it really feels, and that it took a deep examination of Gendo to do it. It shifts the series focus for me to this character in particular where before he was just a shadow looming in the background.
I love this too. but i don't know why some people are mad at this ending and said it's not depression enough
@@rizkyaldi5698 Those idiots are too obsess whit the original evangelion. They think eva should always be this dark, depressed and hopeless anime so they can talk about how deep it is and how they can relate to all the characters nonsense. People like that need to stop using anime for there own personal issues and get professional help.
Just finished watching your "Why Evangelion Rebuild Exists" Great work!
@@INFERNO95 Or idk its just a bad movie lol
So I'm not the only one who thought the same things about and during 7th grade. Thanks, I actually feel better now 20 years after then - so I guess that also practically makes the series meant for me, time spent waiting and all...and it works.
The amount you can draw from the show alone is amazing. To think my "inspiration" for watching it was after a professor analysed it in a literary criticism class.
The last scene of the last episode still gets me, every time.
your professor is a retard it is as hollow beneath the surface as the tokyo geofront
I thought of the Rebuild series as a Shinji coming-of-age story, Him growing up and maturing.
My first take on Thrice Upon a Time was that it reminded me a lot of the Buddhist idea of reincarnation. Basically that life is doomed to a cycle of reincarnation until the individual realizes their "Self" and that it typically takes many lifetimes for them to do it and move beyond the cycle to a state of Nirvana. Basically that the Eva pilots were doomed to reincarnate again and again until they had their epiphanies, stuck in their cycle of aging to 14 and starting again. We see Gendo open up and he's able to join Yui in death, we see Shinji confront his mistakes, open himself up and act with conviction and he's able to move on and grow up. Rei is a little more complicated but time after time she's gotten closer and closer to being a true individual person, in EoE by disobeying Gendo to try to please Shinji and in 1.0 and 2.0 taking more initiative to bring Shinji and Gendo together and standing up to Asuka, ultimately in Thrice Upon a Time saying farewell to Shinji and choosing to live her own life, so we see an older Rei at the train station with Shinji and Mari in the end next to Kowaru, who comes to the realization that everytime he was being selfish as he always wanted Shinji's happiness to make him happy. As for Asuka...we don't see her, because when last we see her she's still struggling in her same loop of struggling with a desire for affection and recognition. Perhaps her soul still has a way to go.
It's a nice theory, but it's ultimately wrong. This last movie has disproved the loop theory, as it shows that the world and characters of the Rebuild are just not the same as those from the original series. The fact that Shikinami is a clone means that she's not the same person Soryu was, she's a totally different character. Also, Kaworu never talks about the whole world and characters of Eva being stuck in a loop, he only says that he himself is stuck in a cycle of death and resurrection, and that happens within the Rebuild timeline. As Shinji and Rei say in their last conversation in this movie, time cannot be rewinded, it can only move forward. There is no loop.
BEAUTIFUL WORLD by Hikaru Utada is great! I won't stand for this!!
Yeah! Truly Amazing
I raise you One Last Kiss
@@oktyrant8953 Yes, that one too.
Yeah what a weak take
@Kumar Ashish
*Hikaru Utada, not Hikaru Odata
Shinji finally getting a happy ending after like 26 years of unresolved canon was truly one of the most cathartic cinematic experiences I’ve ever had
I wish Wisecrack would do an episode on Serial Experiments Lain, I know it's older but I would love to know what philosophies played a role in it's story
Here's the thing about Serial Experiments Lain... even after twenty-some-odd years, it STILL feels like it's a commentary on today's world. About the only tells it has has of its vintage are that the computers are a little too big, the techno club is very 90s cyberpunk, and it didn't quite predict social media (but it predicted many of the psychological and social effects of them).
Had Lain been made in 2018 rather than 1998, it wouldn't look much different.
Have they done a video on Texhnolyze yet?
I'm currently on episode 6 and am very intrigued by this show
Yeah, they could pull a lot out about how it prefigured the social media landscape. A lot else too, surely.
They should do an analysis at the very least to give this stellar unknown gem a lot more deserved exposure.
I think we have to watch it all. They're not separate stories. Evangelion has always been about depression and loneliness. My first thought as we got to the ending was "this is a man who worked through that."
I'm glad you didn't ignore the original show or movies and I don't think we should either. Together I think they all form a pretty cohesive work in what they say about personal growth and learning to reach out to each other.
You def have to watch all of it, and i think you have to also be in the right _mindset_ to watch it. EVA on the surface looks like a Mech Anime, but it goes so so so much deeper than that, it's mind-boggling (or spear fearing, in _Thrice Upon a Time's_ case)
It's fitting for Shinji to ends up with Mari. It's a new beginning. He's finally move on. Starts with cut the endless loop by interacting with someone outside of loop.
And kinda dissapointed you didn't mention Kaworu for the first time having the sense of self outside of making Shinji happy. He finally knows there's something out there beside Shinji's happiness.
And all Utada Hikaru's work for this is just as good as the original. It's fitting.
To me it makes no sense. I’m genuinely confused How can Anno justify this solution when there is small amount of interaction between Mari and Shinji and these interactions aren’t that romantic.
Anno is the one who started this commercialization of Asuka And Rei.
@@normaaliihminen722 agreed, almost feels like it wasn’t the case, especially considering she’s his moms age, feels very ambiguous for sure
Shinji rewriting the book of life in Meta-World at the end of Rebuild 4 has to be one of the saddest pieces of media that I've personally ever seen. He's accepted his own future unexistence, he won't be part of the next timeloop because he must be sacrificed but then Ghendo and his dead wife take his place... I mean, talk about a beautiful arc of redemption. That shit was glorious.
Haven't seen it yet, but your response made me weepy, feeling it.💞
I 100% agree, I could'nt believe it while watching it
i mean yeah, why go in living miserably when you can go out in a quality, beautiful life with a leap of faith
It was the most beautiful way by Anno to gently unplug our wild fantasy and start moving on in our real life.
If he thinks that he can make people who steadfastly refused to disengage their fantasy for the last 25 years do that with one movie...
I have a bridge for sale.
I don't see why he felt it necessary to do that over a 26 epsisode anime..like bruh, one piece is about to hit 1000 episodes, shouldn't we worry about one piece fans?
Después de repetir eso tantas veces en todos los idiomas, se lo creyeron? se sienten más inteligentes? dejaste de usar fotos de anime en tu perfil?
Hikaru utada did awesome job with music in rebuild
Dont dare to diss it
Analyses Evangelion: "we believe that something meta is going on here" - yeah, no shit, brother
2:59 No way this guy is dissing a Utada Hikaru track, come on man. The original opening doesn't even fit with the way the movies are directed.
I like how the rebuild has the best of the 2 previous endings. A hopeful ending that also wraps up the plot
xD xD xD xD xD
Amazing how Anno's biggest fuck you to the fans was giving them a happy ending lmao
Nope. Wasn’t that at all. Stop using 4chan for these sorts of things.
why happy ending is fuck you to the fans
Actually, the biggest fuck you to the fans were the two original movies... Which he made with a lot of spite after death threats were written on the walls of gainax studio after the original TV ending.
You're just a misguided troll
I agree with you even if this is a meme hahahaha, The whole rebuild was a mess, but I'm glad people are getting a catharsis out of if :)
that was a quick click lol
And a quick exit I still haven’t watched thrice
Same af
I saw it and instantly clicked it.
It's funny how a series about the cons of escapism became a method of escapism for so many people.
This was a great video. NGE is one of my fave series. These videos have help me understand and appreciate it more.
Officially my favourite Wisecrack video. Thank you, well done.
It's pretty much obvious that Evangelion 3.0 + 1.0: Thrice Upon a Time (2021) is Hideaki Anno’s Swan Song for the Neon Genesis Evangelion Franchise. A farewell to his work that he created 26 years ago.
After watching it two times now I think it is a very good movie and a satisfying conclusion for the Neon Genesis Evangelion Franchise (at least for now).
Considering the fact that I was very skeptical about it because I didn't like the previous movie Evangelion: 3.0 You Can (Not) Redo and my worst fears were that Evangelion 3.0+1.0 will end up like How I met your Mother Season 9, Game of Thrones Season 8 or Star Wars Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker (all of those things are a complete trainwreck imo), I was pleasantly surprised that it wasn't that.
Is Evangelion 3.0+1.0 perfect? Hell no.
Will it satisfy everyone? Of course not. That's impossible. You can't please everyone.
I for my part was satisfied. I give Evangelion 3.0+1.0 a 8/10.
The only problems I have with this movie were some unnecessary fan service scenes, a few 3D CGI fight scenes that looked a bit jerky at times and the new backstory from Asuka Langley. I don't know but I found this new backstory a little weird and unnecessarily complicated. Yes, I know that Shikinami isn't the same character as Soryu but I still think that you could have used the same backstory that Soryu already had in the Original Series. Or if you really want to create a new one, use something that is less complicated. I think Asuka Langley Shikinami in general deserved more screentime in the movie but that's my personal point of criticism now.
All I've to say is:
*Sayounara, Evangelion.*
you also had three well thought out paragraphs
The fanservissu is very mild compared to Cutey Honey and Gunbuster
It's sad how western creators tend to have disdain for fan service, hence the ruined franchises mentioned, while eastern or mainly anime creators seem to be inclined to give the fans what they want.
The 3D CGI in the final fight with Gendo and Shinji is purposefully bad. You can see how the 1st part of it is literally a stage.
@@rakha8812 indeed, wasn't also the Eva-01 vs Eva-13 battle done using motion capture?
Great stuff but the original ending of the anime was completely intended.
The show did lose funding from the og studio because they weren't showing off the mechs enough but got picked up by another. Towards the end of thrice upon a time you get a great reference to this where the animation turns into key-frame rough drafts. This was the most meta moment for me. Like Ano was saying "this is exactly how I want it"
Neon Genesis Evangelion nearly drove me to suicide.
Seeing Shinji suffering is like seeing myself suffer, because at one point in time I was almost exactly like him, especially back in 10th grade when I was bullied to the brink of suicide. I simply cannot tolerate watching Eva. I felt forced to relive my trauma upon viewing it. I’m deathly afraid of it. Twice I had a nightmare where I saw myself as Shinji choking Asuka and starting the Third Impact. I’ve been struggling with this newfound depression ever since.
I was obsessed with the series for over a year to try and outwit the isolation of the Coronavirus pandemic. It only increased the burden, and kept the memory of my friend’s recent suicide alive.
Watching the End of Evangelion was like peering into a broken mirror, and I was viewing the hell I would’ve put myself through had things turned out differently, had I decided to give up living. It still haunts me to this day.
Sometimes I hate myself because I fail to appreciate what so many have claimed to idolize, and I beat myself further for failing to worship what they call praiseworthy, I forced myself to watch a show that reminded me of nothing but pain just so I wouldn’t be alone anymore, I was willing to sacrifice my individuality for some company amidst the isolation of the pandemic.
I sought emotional refuge in the Evangelion fandom on social media, hoping they’d understand me and provide me with answers that would grant me peace of mind. Instead, they downplayed my trauma, going so far as to spread a rumor of my past to shame me of my mental illness, spiraling me deeper into depression, which I’ve been struggling with for over two years now.
I just want Shinji to be happy, so this past self of mine can be laid to rest once more. I’m afraid to decouple myself from him after losing my friend to suicide, which Eva made me feel responsible for, especially when I saw Shinji kill Kaworu, of which I fail to understand how anyone can call it praiseworthy. Until then, I feel nothing else matters.
There’s a reason why I keep coming back to Evangelion; something that reminds me of nothing but pain.
I want to prove to myself I’m not crazy for feeling this way, that Evangelion really did force me to relive my trauma, that my depression is not just a figment of my imagination or another anime plot point. I want to feel that my fear and resentment towards Eva is justified.
But the fact I’m the only one I know in existence who’s been traumatized by an anime makes me feel like I really am crazy.
But finally, with 3.0+1.0 released, I can rest easy knowing that Shinji has finally reached the light at the end of the tunnel. Evangelion is finished, and I want it to remain that way.
But if things hadn’t turned out that way, I wouldn’t be here today.
I JUST finished watching the original series, so seeing this immediately after is surreal AF
Needed this video at this point in my life. I should watch the final movie to help finalize the sentiments in your video. With the pandemic and life it feels like I’ve been so far astray into myself and depression.
17:38 what's the background theme too this, I like it. It's like a tranquillity theme....
Hey, if you need anything... don't be afraid to reach out. I'm glad to see you're ready to move forward!
evangelion series: neutral ending
end of evangelion: bad ending
rebuild: good ending
NGA and EoE had the same ending just different perspectives
tmoe_ow what of the video game's endings?
@@garrisonjones1827 idk never played it what’s it called?
tmoe_ow Neon Genesis Evangelion 2 for the ps2
@@tmoe_ow2523 I feel like they’re both depictions of instrumentality, one from shinjis mind and the other of what’s actually happening, but I don’t believe they have the same ending/meaning, as in the OG series, shinji is able to overcome himself and gets congratulations all around and in EoE he learns absolutely nothing by the end of it
amazing video :D ty for the wonderful content, as always
Wow, I'm impressed! This is the best Evangelion breakdown I've ever seen. Thank you for shedding light on some of the aspects that I missed or didn't get! Subbed!
This is an excellent and concise summation. Well done.
Can't help but wonder what the original plan for these movies were. Movies 3 and 4 were completely different from what the "next episode previews" showed. I get why Mari is endgame, because being the spunky outgoing type is best for pulling Shinji out of his shell, but doesn't that also mean it's saying that broken people can't improve each other?
I personaly thing Shinji + Mari Is metacomentary on 26 years old discourse Asuka vs Rei.
2 years late but
its less "broken people cant improve each other" its more that basicaly any relationship with any of the characters we knew beforehand wold likely end up being codependend.
HECK Rei sacrificing herself to allow Shinji to "run away"(not having to pilot the eva) is a textbook definition of codependend relationships(well. not the "use a nuke to blow yourself up part" but the "self sacrifice to enable your partners self destructive behaviour" part, because shinji running away(not necesserly from the evas) is self destructive in its nature, its avoiding the problem not confronting it.).
Rei, Asuka and Shinji, while being in a meta sense all being part of Anno in some way, are also inherently incompatabile beings if portrayed as individual characters. It also has the theme that you need to move past what you know, all of this hurt you, you can not continue to cling to it just because its a Connection for you.
Mari is not just "spunky outgoing" she is "the unknown" a existance that didnt exist before, something shinji never interacted with in
any incarnation of this god forsaken cycle. Meta narativly she obviously also represents Annos wife who helped him out of his depression.
Broken people can help each other. Its just THESE broken people cant help each other, the way they are broken enables each others worst traits in a codependency spiral.
this was a really informative video, thanks!
Awesome analysis! 😄
finally, its been 20years since i had the first NGE tv series.
now i hope and pray Anno will back to us with something new and brainstorming radical story plot like NGE.
Thank you Anno for your work.
Wonderful as usual
This made me smile. A very good take on complicated themes where others usually get sidetracked by complicated theories about religions icons and mysteries of life. 👍
thankyou man for the explanation, i can study something from this video. Thanks :D
this is great timing, i just watched this 2 days ago!
Brilliant review!! Love the philosophical interpretation!
Wow this was such a brilliant video!!
I just watched it all yesterday. I think this answered a lot of questions.
oh hell yeah, we've all been waiting for this
We all can be the heroes of our own story. Being a hero is not about destroying monsters / killing bad guys, a true hero is who has overcome himself and, beyond that self, found other people.
Love the line about the theme. Tis a banger
Amazing analysis!
What a marvelous video!
I didnt feel like there was closure for Rei and Asuka in the same way there was for Shinji, idk I would have like to see them over come their trappings and grow-up move on etc. The Manga I recall had a scene with Asuka on a train bumping into young Shinji but taking off... where is she 'now'? ya know?
If your talking about the manga she walk off after thanking him for helping her get off the train. He bump into kensuke and after they talk for a bit both go there own way. In shin evangelion she returns to the third village to be whit kensuke who she got close to over the 14 years and live a normal life to be whit some one who accept her treat her whit the love and respect she always wanted for a long time.
Just to add to the discussion, the asuka we see through the rebuild series, the shikikami one is “fake”, in the end we see the OG one, Asuka Langley, in the beach of EoE all grown up with the original plugsuit.
It is implied that she got out of the loop, got rid of the curse and the Angel corruption and is living with kensuke( the only man up the ask that is helping someone as broken as her)
@@amazonico9307 what ever happened to the other timeline? do we know if they escape their loop?
This was a very short and concise explanation of what happened. I liked this video… but I can’t help but want more. I have a deep appreciation and sentiment for the creator of the show, the psychological issues he went through, and the show itself; can’t give it enough credit. Love the video Wisecrack! If 8-bit Philosophy comes back with this show in mind… I’d be happy. But alas, it’s not. And it’s okay that it won’t
I just finished watching all 4 movies and I've previously seen the anime and 2 extra movies
This show was amazing and I hope whatever he brings us next is just as good
Just did an similar episode breaking down the pilots psychology and I gotta say you nailed this. Nice work
Guy reminds me of Geroge Lucas. Like no one will ever let him get away from Star Wars even still today.
Lucas was done dirty by his own fans. Anno, not so much. Yeah, Anno's Japanese fans were the harshest, but they didn't write whole songs about about how he r***d their childhoods (or some other nonsense thing).
Having to be the main character of a franchise for more than a decade, shinji has really "become a legend".
When we are all grandparents, let's tell our grandkids "This legend is the reason why angels do not exist today kiddo. Do not ever forget that."
My biggest gripe with all this is like you said about Gendo “just needing a therapy session..”
-Shinji turns into a competent adult overnight with no character development to be seen by us.
-Gendo abandons his decades long plan without ever showing any signs of doubt or uncertainty up to this point. Plus he is rewarded this time, as opposed to EoE.
-Asuka seems to be “with” Kensuke and they explain/show NONE of that development?!
-Misato changes her mind about Shinji and everything from 3.0, but we see VERY little of how or why, etc.
This series just tells us “people are different now, isn’t that great?” which feels like a betrayal after the first series focused so much on Freud/therapy/psychoanalysis.
Agreed.
The world in the Rebuilds seems more optimistic from the get go. All the emotional and interpersonal problems of the characters are diminished or just absent. There’s no Rei monologue, no ambiguous kiss with Asuka, and her attraction to Kaji is gone. Misato was just done absolutely dirty, and even the struggles of minor characters like Ritsuko’s affair and the NERV crew’s questioning on the morality of their actions is gone.
Instead, we have Rei and Asuka cooking for Shinji, the same two making up in the elevator, and everyone seems to get along fine. Instead of sad, rainy, and lonely subway rides and sitting alone in a movie theatre, we have Shinji walking through Tokyo 3 to meet up with Toji and Kensuke to upbeat music. It’s the same in 3+1, Rei, Asuka, and Shinji, who are all outcasts in their own way, are readily accepted by the village, no questions asked. It’s not really explained how the villagers live amongst themselves in peace, or how they are happy, the people are happy just because. It really seems that the emotional and interpersonal problems of the characters would have resolved themselves if it weren’t for the existence of Eva and Angels. I suppose Rebuilds were made to appeal to a wider audience and make money, and by cutting out the grit of the original, well, they did just that.
@@homurameguca Yeah, well said. There are multiple interviews with Anno’s colleagues discussing how Anno has become primarily focused on what is marketable to the most people.
While I wouldn’t say that on its own makes this story “worse,” I think maybe Anno is more suited to the confessional, brutally honest writing of NGE/EoE.
In this world where The Avengers series grosses the highest at the box office, maybe Anno was right to focus on the animation and the fighting.
I will give him that: With the exception of the Gendo fight, F.I. Face/mannequins, the action scenes are GORGEOUS.
Truly top notch animation.
I’ll just always prefer the character-focused writing of the original series/EoE. And I will mourn what the Rebuilds could have been.
You know, I didn't get this thesis of having faith from the text of the movie. It didn't have to be as in your face as something like Gundam Unicorn's "god of possibility" but there was never a moment where faith as even an idea entered the discussion. While Eva has subtext, I have to wonder where the through line to faith comes from.
For me honestly, the theme of the movies was to become a more responsible citizen, to the point where he chose to create a real world to grow up and be an adult in.
They don't use the word "faith" but it seems obvious that Shinji's beliefs about himself and society change. When at the end he says that he isn't afraid of suffering and that Mari will come for him, both of those are expressions of faith. One in his own strength to deal with suffering and carry responsibility and the other is faith in Mari's love for him.
@@petardraganov3716 As obvious as it was to you, even Shinji's bond with Mari came from left field to me. There's a leap of faith, then there's a manic dream pixie girl waiting at the bottom of Inception's dreamscape to live out a life of mundane day to day reality.
Shinji's coping with his pain and becoming an adjusted person could have just as much come from Rei telling him that people actually like him as he is, bringer of the Near Third Impact, understanding that people did not have the contempt for him that he had for himself. Allowing other people to be kind to him allowed him to be kind to himself. We can bridge the gap to "faith" in others allowed him to have faith in himself, but this is subtext.
The more overt discussions of work, community, Mari's overenthusiastic embrace of her life and circumstances, and the lens of instrumentality being turned on Gendo, that Gendo and Shinji were of the same, were much more readable to me.
@@DevanConrad Being a citizen isn't a matter of faith, it is participation in a social contract. My faith or lack of in the structures of society does not exempt me from them.
@@DevanConrad I understood the social contract specifically as an examination of the relationship between people and the authorities that govern them. I don't take an examination of the way my goverment works for and against the public as a matter of faith.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_contract?wprov=sfla1
Wow, this discussion was good. Really Good.
Damn, I have been Shinji all along...
Ironically, I was sipping tea out of my NERV coffee mug when this came up in my recommended.
I want a NERV coffee mug!! That's such a great thing to own!
This was an awesome analysis.
I thought it wasn't enough! I wanted more on his take of _Thrice_
Also glad to see there's some Hikaru Utada fans out here 😁🎧🎵
what i think is, the series i was obsessed with in 99-2000 as an angsty anime teen has grown into something so culturally huge 20y later that i'm really sad i fell off following the newer iterations while i was a drunk punk in the aughts. and as familiar and personally a n c i e n t as all of the themes and characters and lore in this video is, i need to/cannot wait to finally catch up and bridge the gap between myself and today's angsty anime teens. never saw this coming, of all the series to blow up so hard they're getting multiple videos on a major channel and the 2010s-era memes are already childhood memories for people in this The Year Of Our Sealab 2021.... i'm glad it was good ole eva. :')
This is the first legit good take on a concept Wisecrack has posted in months.
Anno is done with EVA this is his goodbye, now he just want to make ultraman
One last kiss is a bop
Thank you!!
Thanks Wisecrack, I finally watched about Evangelion after your previous video about it, and now three years later that's a fine conclusion to the story.
Hideaki Anno You're a magnificent piece of work can't wait for your live action Movies. If it's available for world wide release.
Excelent video :)
Don't you dare bad mouth Utada Hikaru's beautiful ending themes. Sure, it's no Cruel Angel's Thesis, but it's still good
3:00 this song is amazing,i will die on this hill.
Lmao I've been agonizing over choosing a hotel for literally 3 weeks and I think this will actually help me finally make a decision
Now we just need a live action starring Shia LaBeouf
There used to be a plan to make a live action NGE way back in 2003 but it went nowhere. At least we got interesting concept art.
@@hemidas
Unlikely.
Tsuburaya Productions is now intertwined to make an Tokusatsu adaptation of Evangelion, since Hideaki Anno and Shinji Higuchi are creating Shin Ultraman. However, they are also working at Toei Studios for Shin Kamen Rider 2023.
Bro you did the best and most entertaining explanation
I am going to honest watching, the series when it first came out, then "End of Evangelion" and then the Rebuild, I think the series ending was what he wanted to say, we all know why "EoE" was made and the Rebuild, well I just hope he found the peace he needed to put this bed, I have no idea what to make of it, I haven't done enough or done too many drugs to get it(j/k). one day in the near future I am going to have sit down and watch all of them back to back, and just try to understand all of it.
Does anyone know which Badiou's works were used as reference for this video?
Anno tried to make art. People did not like it and focused on some crappy stuff.
It used to be a story about a kid with a charismatic but also narcissist and sociopathic parent, the kind that would throw his son in the metaphorical pool, but the parent in question did not give the kid a pool to swim into after throwing him in, nor he gave his son a company to run to see if he could run a company without teaching him how to run it. He gave his son a giant robot and watched him go berserk and told him "yeah, you will eventually learn" via the corporate equivalent of sending an employyee to pat your head.
They focused on why Toji disappeared when it was just the story of yet another friend a controlling father removed from the life of a child to create (in his sociopathic life), they focused on random stuff that only existed to show how bad the parenting was... becausenobody got the message.
Then he tried to retell the story since he had a bit more money... but he made sure people understood what was happening. Except they got it wrong. I mean... people literally put "rebirth" after "death". When they are evidently do be seen as "rebirth" *then* "death", like he was literally rebirthing evangelion to kill it. But he still gave us an "end".
Then... He literally pulled a "robocop 2" and made a meta movie about rewriting an ending knowing too well he will be killed for doing so (the eva 02 fight) because there was no way the fans would be happy about it and made a metaphor about the unsound mental m********ion that his fans were doing. (the shinji m********ion scene)
He literally interspersed movies with the real life death threats he received and the assaults he sustained. For telling a story close to his heart.
He showed us letters of people misunderstanding the movies yet again but gave him the mental violence of telling him they felt close to him when it was literally his way of distancing himself from them.
Bust still fans were not satisfied, they focused on a ton of stuff that was never part of the original narrative, so he made a movie that was a literal "f**k you all".
The he tried to end it once and for all. (i mean, you can't get more angry than titling something "true death squared") because he was sick and tired but no... people wanted more.
Then he said "you know what? i'm done. It never worked, here is my last rewrite. With this i have reached nirvana and i officially do not care anymore, the original is so dead and mangled and unrecognizable i am now officially out of this"
This last movie is essentially a resignation letter: "So long, thanks for all the fish i am now in an happier place, i will not tell you all to die because... to be fair i do not like getting assaulted and i wish to be done with this. Do i wish i could have told the original story better? Yeah, but funding and all... also people focusing on the metaphors as facts instead of metaphors and wanting to know more about the narrative artifacts i used to tell a story rather than focusing on wanting to know more about the story. The original story was about a sad kid that got mangled in the machinations of his father, everything else... was just fluff an metaphors. As a result of that i got my life mangled by a ton of "adoring fans" who literally made it impossible for me to write what i originally wanted to write, inexperienced and without funding as i was. Sooo yeah. Have the ending you always wanted, this is what would happen if Shinji had not been so f***ed up by life, It's not the story i wanted to write for sure, but it's the story you wanted. Have your happy unearned ending, have your niceties and everything else. Also: here is a waifu. You love waifus, right? Totally unearned, like your 2d waifus you love so much. So long!"
Obviously this is just my headcanon... but it kind of fits what i saw too well to not be at least part what i saw happening.
When Shinji puts the plug suit on one more time, in my head Cruel Angel’s Thesis played 😂
One of the best wisecrack analysis
one of the best analysis on EVA 3.0+1.0,also one of the best video after Jared left
3:02 song name please, I'm not that familiar with the Rebuild OSTs.
It's interesting that analyses on Rebuild tend to overlook that Shinji (and much of the cast) actually did progress in their development during the 2nd film, but were stunted by [mostly] unforseen circumstances. Shinji even finally behaved VERY decisively at the end of that film, inadvertently causing the 3rd Impact. It's always seemed to me as if that point in the series was showing how, even if we develop healthily as people, shit still happens and life doesn't permit any guarantees for anyone. Yes, the films ended eventually on a positive note, but the characters had been on the verge of resolving their issues years earlier. Perhaps the point is that they had to, yet again, reconcile with themselves and each other after almost doing so (and almost destroying the planet) to now truly transcend their demons. Idk
Sure A Cruel Angel's Thesis is still the goat but you did Utada Hikaru dirty man 🤣
"And if so, if you have lived in despair, then, regardless of whatever else you won or lost, everything is lost for you, eternity does not acknowledge you, it never knew you-or, still more terrible, it knows you as you are known and it binds you to yourself in despair."
- Søren Kierkegaard
ez win for Søren.