Reacting To Joe Rogan On Catholicism | The Catholic Talk Show
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- Опубліковано 31 бер 2024
- In this episode of The Catholic Talk Show, Ryan & Ryan react to anti-Catholic comments from influential comedians and podcasters Joe Rogan & Bill Burr.
Episode 272:
In this episode, we will discuss:
• Reacting To Anti-Catholicism
• Is This Impacting Faith & Religion?
• Should Catholics Watch This Kind Of Content?
• and much more
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Welcome home🙏🙏🙏🩷
Joe Rogan was raised Catholic and Catholic School educated 🤷🏼♀️
Please have Sam Shamoun on 👍he is an awesome hammer of heretics knows the Bible and quran by heart and has won many souls to Jesus Christ especially muslims
Have you all considered "converting" from patreon to Locals (like Pints, Brian Holdsworth, and Keith Nester)?
It's very popular to criticize the Catholic church. I just converted last year, and I have heard TONS of stuff in my life. Oh well, everyone has an opinion. I believe the Catholic Church is the one true church. Period.
You are very wise. 😊
We are the biggest church in the world , this is all inevitable. Literally suffering from success
@@meyber_8572 That’s a clear sign of the world’s idea of success. The Catholic Church has centuries of blood on their hands. Everything thing about it is unbiblical.
As you grow in your faith, the "Oh Well" will begin to disappear. The "Oh Well" must dissolve over time, brother.
@@hargisP2 The Catholic Church has centuries of blood on its hands? Compared to your religion? What is your religion?
My husband and I were baptized and confirmed this past Saturday. We are blessed to be Catholic!!
Welcome my brother and sister in Christ!!!!
Praise God.
Welcome! I truly believe you have found the true church! We are blessed to have you in our Catholic Church!
Prise be to Our Lord Jesus Christ! Wellcome home! Blessed Easter
Welcome! Many blessings to you both!
"If you get your theology from a comedian, don't be surprised if your theology is a joke." That has to be the best line I've heard in a long time!
I noticed years ago that, generally speaking, when comedians start wanting to be taken seriously, they tend to become pretty insufferable. Bill Maher with Religulous was a prime example
Spoke Holy Spirit 😊
all theology is a joke. only today you're allowed to laugh and not get burned at the stake.
Joe Rogan clearly needs prayers. Let us pray for him and all of those who have such an intense anger toward the Church.
Nothing genuine with this creep, all agenda.
Anger is just one emotion.
Abused people often have numerous mixed emotions,
not quickly or easily healed.
Comment deleter? Soft is what you are. Jesus needs warriors not dweebs!
Been praying for him a long time. Praying the BVM gets a hold of him😉
I heard his more recent podcast show him shifting towards the world needing Jesus.
I’ve been to Protestant services where the pastor always brings up something to criticize the Catholic Church but NEVER have I ever been to a mass where other denominations are criticized. I understand that the people of the Catholic Church have their faults but majority of the criticism comes from ignorance and misunderstanding of Catholicism.
I agree . We worship God . I have also been to protester church . The pastor stands and just talks. No worship . Several of my sisters are now protesters . So tired of them quoting scripture . I already know it . John Mac Arthur , and Gendron always bashing Catholics . Sad sad people . I thought they are supposed to spread love and the gospel .
Christ instructed His Believers to spread Truth ~full Gospel Truth.
Yup cuz we worry about Jesus not what other ppl are doing.
I agree. I’m a cradle Catholic & have NEVER heard any priest or deacon criticize any other religion. We don’t have time for that nonsense.
@@user-kj2fz5lq7g I never criticised the rcc until I went to a funeral held there and was confronted by the statement "Our *SINLESS* Lady". At that point I was rocked out of my complacency regarding the rcc - and started looking into what it teaches. My findings on all the extra-biblical rubbish in the rcc is revolting. Where is the gospel in all of that?
I’m tired of hearing an opinion about my faith by someone who knows everything about Catholicism because they went to catholic school in first grade. SMH
😂 at 6 years old LoL😅
Exactly 🤷🏻♀️
I know right lol
1000% - every time I mention I’m Catholic to someone, I always hear “oh yeah I was raised Catholic” even though they know NOTHING about Catholicism…their “I was raised Catholic” stopped happening after their Baptism as an infant
reminds me when I saw convert from Catholicism to Protestant gave his testimony just to admit in his story that he didn't really go to Church or read the Bible. He even admitted that only got those negative views of Catholicism from the protestant Bible study group he went to. If it was around way around, you going may see protestants saying things like "oh no , he been brainwashed"
So many seem to hate the Catholic Church but that’s because it’s real, and the only Church founded by Christ himself.Jesus said the world would hate us. We must carry our cross
No its because they spent centuries murdering people in the most horrific ways just for reading the bible. And many other reasons
I don't *HATE* the Catholic Church - I simply point out the heresies it promulgates - like worshiping Mary whilst calling it "super veneration". Just look at the background setting for this video - the pre-eminence of Mary over Christ is clear. The figure of Mary occupies almost a quarter of the image and the little dumb statue of Christ ( even though it's centralized ) is just another blip on the screen amongst many other ones. The list of such idolatrous heresies is too long to put down here again.
Jesus didn't condone crimes against humanity.
@@kevinrtres Catholics worship God alone. Mary is given great respect and veneration because she deserves it, after all she is the Mother of God! Not the Mother of the Trinity but the Mother of the Word, Jesus Christ.
My parents raised me Catholic. My wife completed her rcia and was welcomed to the Catholic family 10 years ago. We are happily married...9 years and going...we have 4 beautiful boys...Thank you Lord for our family blessings 🙌
Are you Hispanic?
Born, baptized, and raised catholic. Will always be catholic till the end. I will not let anyone indoctrinate me either.
You already ARE indoctrinated
into Catholicism.
As a baptism is a verbal commitment to God .as most Catholics are baptized as an infant ,not able to make such agreement. John 1:3 JESUS TELLS NICODEMUS YOU MUST BE BORN AGAIN . Don't even get me started or I'll be forced to take you to Holy Bible class .❤
@jamesbeardslee3903 we are born again, the bible way. Like St.Paul. Like the whole households.
I will always be Catholic as well specially after reading Revelation 22:18-19
I respect your beliefs and your life, growing up. I’m also, a CRADLE Catholic. I TRULY BELIEVE. It’s not just some “coo doo@!that was passed on to me, but , being new, I am CURIOUS about these men, who , OBVIOUSLY, aren’t men of the cloth? WHO, and WHAT authority do they have, in the Catholic Church????? Both married men with families. What makes them so special? I went to the about information and I can’t find anything.
Every time you hear someone say I used to be Catholic and this is what is wrong with them …. You realize that they were not properly catechized and had no idea what it is about
So very true! Weak Catholics become Protestants. Strong Protestants become Catholics.
In spanish we say: católico ignorante futuro protestante.
Got into an argument with an evangelist who came up to me at a bar claiming to be a prior catholic. He started saying all these things, and I was refuting them piss drunk (dont worry, i confessed and repented) going off of Fr. Schmidtz video content and basic scripture and he ended up getting kicked out of the bar and he had no intellectual rebuttal. That was my first experience, but I also see it everywhere on the internet. I really think we need to invest in catechesis of cradle catholics going forward, especially after my own experience coming into sincere faith.
As I get older I have less and less tolerance for that tired excuse. We all make choices. I'll respect theit choice, but I demand they accept mine. To be honest, I'm old and grumpy, and I'll get this out in the confessional, but I wouldn't want to be around Rogan, although I agree with him politically in many ways. I don't have time to banter with bigots.
@@dank501 love it, keep going…
I'm a Catholic school teacher. I love it! We love our students and we have the opportunity to share our faith. Children get lost in the mix in public school. We care and strive for the best interest of the child. God knows the children nowadays, need it more than ever! When the students graduate from 8th grade they are honor students in high school. We have high expectations in the classroom at every grade. Kids are kids and they are going to get in trouble but they learn from it. Most of the parents I have talked to over the years send them to Catholic school because they know we [teachers] will hold the kids accountable. Thank you for all you do!!
Thank you for this! My daughter will start school this fall and we have chosen a Catholic School for the very reasons you’ve described. I feel our Lord has spoken to me through you assuring we’ve made the right choice.
@@monicageller226 Thank you for your kind words. God bless!
I went to Catholic school a real Covent,all girl school,loved it. Compared to students from main stream schools I was far more advanced academically and better prepared for life. My parents think it was money well spent. Also everybody always told us we where very well mannered. The only thing I didn't like was the school uniform .
Catholic schools now a days care more about being woke and PC. The catholic elementary school isn't teaching any religious stuff I don't know why. The kids have to learn it on their own time. In the third grade class only 3 kids were having their first communion and they weren't teaching the class the kids had to come to the church. In my day we learned about God at school too and had first communion class went to the chapel room. Sorry about grammar and spelling I don't tend to care about it when in the UA-cam comments. I feel the need to apologize since your a teacher 😂
@@meggo329 no need to apologize. Teaching style to service the needs of students has definitely changed since I was in Catholic school (in the 1980s). The new research and new focus on social and emotional learning. There are students at my school that are not Catholic. The parents choose to send them because we teach kindness (love of others), academics standards holding students accountable, and knowing we spend time with each student to help them grow. Parents also feel their child is more safe than a classroom of 25 students and a school of over 1,000 children. God bless! 😊
I was raised by a very faithful Irish grandmother. She also taught me that we have the Bible, catechism, & doctrine that never changes. But, she also taught me that men are mere men & not all represent the best of the church. When she died, I was 12. I was left to grow up in a convent school until 12th grade. I did pay attention to who worked on being holy & those that barely slid by. Back in the 60s there were still some few nuns that were pushed by family, because of poverty etc, to become a nun - they were generally the worst to deal with. I had nightmares until adulthood because of this 1, but it never changed my faith. I also learned that our learning of theology doesn’t end when we graduate school. We are responsible to continue learning with an adult mind. I am now 72 & my faith has been the only solid rock in my life. I have even experienced many miracles.
So true. Keep it up! I hope you're passing your wisdom down these days.
The Catholic Church is perfect.....it's the people in the Church that aren't perfect.
...thanks to the sinlessness and all-holiness of Mary - with all that extra merit to give to others.....
He who rejects my Mother, rejects me. Jesus. Maybe you should think about that.
Joe Rogan needs to listen to Father Mike Schmidz
Father Mike is awesome!
Yes he should 😊
Michael Knowles does long form Interviews, often they are on the Catholic faith.
These guys would find themselves looking pretty silly!
Mike Schmitz is a gay bashing hater!
Nah, that's an awful personality fit. Maybe Fr. Stephen Imberrato would be better
I was welcomed into the Catholic Church this past Saturday. I’m blessed.
Congratulations to you and welcome to the faith!!!! 💞
Welcome HOME sister ✝ 💌
Yay
Welcome home 🙏🏽
I was caned by a nun music teacher for getting piano notes wrong, caned by my maths teacher in grade 5 for getting sums wrong (Mrs Geisler - will never forget her name, the old cow). Me and my sister were humiliated by a nun in front of the whole school assembly for not having a mantilla (head covering) to wear in church. We were only 9 and 6yo. I was also regularly beaten by my mother. That was the way of the world back in the 60's, not saying it was right and it certainly broke your spirit but that's the way it was. Fast forward to Catholic schools today (my 5yo grandson goes to one) and they are positive, loving and enriching environments. I obviously learnt something though because I am blessed and very proud to be a practising Catholic today. I wish people who know nothing about Catholicism would stop running it down. Will pray for Joe Rogan.
Same - went to two messed up Catholic schools. I'm a Catholic now but it took 20 years to get here.
Certainly, Joe Rogan’s experience is NOT rare.
Dismissing or diminishing reality can be insult on top of injury.
Nor is saying, it’s all better now. Nor is saying, we’re not the only ones.
I'm so sorry you experienced this in our catholic schools. I had a very positive experience, but my younger sister by three years had all the "mean" nuns. One year, when she was in 2nd and I was in 5th, my nun had to leave and they gave us her nice nun and she got a mean one to replace her. The problem was....her class had a reputation and my class did too. We were considered "good" and her class was considered "not so good" . Perhaps we should have had the more strict nuns and her class the nicer nuns but that wasn't the thinking back then. I am sorry that you suffered what you did. I was sorry for what my sister suffered too.
@@user-vd3bf3nd6rThank you, that’s the first time anyone has ever apologised and I’m 63! It means a lot to me. I’m sorry your sister had a tough time too 😢 💕
I grew up going to Catholic school up to 6th grade and now I'm dealing with a friend who is a fallen away Catholic who is criticizing a faith she knows nothing about anymore. Because of this, I'm delving more into my religion and faith to better educate her when she remarks. Her mother was a mean abusive woman to her and I think that's where the issue is. 😢
On another note, I don't think the nuns or sisters were educated to be teachers, they were told what to do and did their best.
Love and proud to be Catholic 😊💕🏴
I will always be Catholic. I cannot imagine joining any other religion. Now that there are a lot of channels here on UA-cam about Catholicism, my faith got stronger than ever.
I see that you don't proclaim that you'll always be a Christian. Very telling.
I'm in RCIA and just did my first Communion on Easter Virgil and soon with by Confirmed with the Holy Spirit. I love being Catholic and as my Deacon said we are defenders of the faith. This I will do. God bless everyone love the show
As an RCIA candidate who will enter the Church this Sunday, I can say that Joe Rogan unfortunately has a lot of misconceptions about the Church and its teachings.
Welcome home!
I just entered the Church at Easter also. Good to be home sister
As a kid baptized Catholic in an Italian family, but then ripped apart by divorce at 6, I had little interest in Jesus until last year. Something drew me to Ash Wednesday 2023 and I didn't miss another Mass.
Was confirmed this past Saturday at the Easter Vigil Mass.
I am at home. He has risen.
The faith did not molest anyone. Some creepy dude who hid behind the truth of Christ did. I don’t get it.
One plus one is two.
What is especially odd is that I heard him tell the story of twice being accosted by men outside as an ordinary little boy going about his day and these were not churchmen so you would think he would understand that it is everywhere.
Sorry. There is a valid point about pedophiles in the church. I get it. Unfortunately, I also get the fact that the creepy dude was most likely molested as a child too. Sin begets sin.
@@user-vd3bf3nd6r Any molestation should be dealt with immediately, regardless of the person or institution. So of course, there is/was a problem in the church.
However, the John Jay college did a study and the rate is no higher than in other institutions.
I left the Church, I have no agenda to be protective of her reputation. Cardinal Mahony who protected so many abusers, lives comfortably on church property. That's a major problem in my opinion.
Having said that, it is naive to focus too much on the church as having a unique problem, because you will tend to ignore the fact that the most dangerous place for any child is in a home with a stepfather or a boyfriend. The person most likely to cover up and protect the abuser is the mother and I have personally seen it happen with several women and it's a very common occurrence.
At least in America, if you watch enough news, you will see a woman who let her boyfriend murder her child.
It is dangerous to speak of what happened in the church as something unique to her, so one need not have their guard up elsewhere.
Yet look what happened to the Olympic gymnastics team and for years.These were the most elite athletes in the world and highly intelligent gurls and young women and they were abused for years.
If there are children, there will be abuse. Right now, in most American dioceses, you can't volunteer or work for anything in proximity with children without being fingerprinted and trained and you still can't be alone with a child.
@@user-vd3bf3nd6r A post of mine seems to have disappeared after editing a typo - I probably got out too quick.
Short version. Yes, there is/was a problem in the Church.
Read the John Jay College report.
Right now, in most dioceses in the US, you cannot work or volunteer near children without being fingerprinted and trained and you still can't be alone.
If you think every one of the thousands of fully independent protestant churches are doing the same, they're not.
I left the Church for theological reasons but the presence of Cardinal Mahony living comfortably on parish grounds didn't help.
Having said all that, it's important not to regard what happens in the church as somehow unique to the church as it then will put the children in your life and the lives of others in danger from complacency and naivete.
The most dangerous place for any child is in the home with a stepfather or a boyfriend. That is simply, statistically and factually correct. The one most likely to cover up and protect the abuser, is the mother.
Some of the most elite gymnasts in the world were abused for years.
If there are children or adolescents, there will be abusers. It's just a lot more painful when it's a priest abusing and a bishop lying, covering up and facilitating it and they aren't punished unless they embezzle.
I went through 16 years of Catholic School, including college. With the notable exception of my nominally (and sometimes heretical) “Catholic” college, the instruction in The Faith was top notch. I am eternally grateful to the lay and Religious teachers for the education I received.
Joe Rogan basically described what it was like in public school during the 70s. It had nothing to do with the Catholic faith or the school, and I agree it had to do with the trauma of his parents splitting up SAD. He's so angry and hateful!
Drug users - recreational or otherwise - tend to embellish. Joe Rogan was funny as a comedian, and his show is impressive for the wide range of viewpoints and guests he hosts, but a lot of breadth is a poor substitute for a lack of depth.
I didn’t sense any anger or hate
coming from Joe Rogan.
@@ShirleyAnnPetrillo-oj7scAre you autistic?
My wife's cousin is a Carmelite Nun based in Spain. I was asking her questions about the off putting situations currently going on. She got serious as we know Nuns do and said, "You are the Church, you are the one in the public , you represent the Church"
Ok, got it
What situations?
Go easy on Joe. I was educated in country Australia in the 60’s and can relate to the threats, brutality and being sidelined because we were poor BUT I love my faith and returned to the Catholic Church after 40 years absence and I am certain this was because of my Mother’s devotion and endless Hail Marys. I pray for Joe as I believe he has opened to Christ, if not the church over the years. We see others in the media coming closer to The One True Church founded by Christ and all things are possible with God. Love your work and your show Gentlemen. There’s room for us all, thanks be to God. 🙏🕊️❤️🤍💙
I went to catholic school for 12 years. One nun made my life a living hell. In math class she realized I was very shy so she started calling on me every day. If I got the question wrong she would belittle and mock me so that the other kids would laugh at me. She called me stupid, moron and dumb so many times that she basically broke me. By October that year I would cry when she called my name and was unable to do even one problem. So she put me in “a class for morons, where you belong” but it was the best thing for me. I passed 4th grade and on the 1st day of 5th grade she forced all “her morons” to take an unannounced test. I barely passed it but the new teacher deemed the test unfair and kept us all in her class room. Long story short she wanted me back in 4th grade to torture me again. Just me.
She mentally abused me but when my mom heard her talk about how I belonged in her class while I was passing with a B she took me to another Catholic school.
I could have easily remained sour about nuns but I remain catholic through some cafeteria days but strong now.
Joe’s opinion based on a few months is laughable. We should pray for him.
My first grade teacher abused the boys in the classroom. She was a monster! This was in 1970 in a NJ public school. I was so traumatized by witnessing the abuse. I didn't want to go to school. So, I would make myself vomit. Mom would let me stay home because she thought I was sick. Then, she caught on. My first grade teacher is probably burning in Hell now. She ruined the lives of so many children.
We are catholics because we believe in Jesus, not because we believe in some nuns and priests like Rogan did, apparently 😅
I was abused psychologically by the nuns at the catholic school I attended. I still don't trust nuns, but I am still catholic. I will pray for Joe.
@@erin0719 yep and that was my point. I’m not Catholic because the Carmelite nuns I later encountered were nice. Or because we had some very nice Franciscan brothers who celebrated mass with us. I’m Franciscan because I’m Catholic and I’m Catholic because without the Eucharist, without Jesus, there is no point to religion.
I’m so sorry you went through that….
I understand and respect the criticisms that are often leveled at the institution. I've learned to distinguish between the teachings of the Church, which I hold dear, and the human flaws of some of its members. After a long absence, I'm grateful to have found my way back. It's been a process of healing and rediscovery, and I appreciate the opportunity to engage in this dialogue.
Welcome back to the faith!!! Once a Catholic always a Catholic. You can run, but you can't hide from God. Please pray for my adult son who has strayed away from our holy church. My heart is broken, but I trust God and His timing.
Not even including the rubbish that some schools teach kids, the stories I hear about public school are a lot scarier.
99% of people talking bad about Catholic church are ignorant about what the church really is (including some "Catholics"), they know about the prejudices and about what some christian sects told them, but they have no real knowledge. And most of people are talking about a bad experience with a priest or a nun, like they're the reason we belong to the church and not our Lord.
Some are quite knowledgeable about Catholicism AND disagree.
“99% are ignorant” ?!
I know that the catholic church itself tells me that Mary was a sinless human being - which is a lie from hell.
@@ShirleyAnnPetrillo-oj7scAlmost never.
The more its attacked and criticized, the more I know im in the right place
might want to re-evaluate that - since the rcc says Mary was a sinless human being...in dire contradiction to what the bible teaches.
@@kevinrtres how could a sinful human being carry and give birth to a sinless human being. If you say, because He's God, then He could make Mary sinless as well. I suggest you call into a Catholic apologist radio show and ask that question and you'll have a lot more in depth answer. God bless
I went to Catholic schools for grade and high school....I also sent all my 4 kids to the same schools and a couple of them chose to go to Catholic college on their own dime. I taught at public and Catholic schools and preferred teaching at Catholic school. Yep....grateful for all of it.
Us Catholics need to live out and be bold in our faith so others can see our Lord’s love shine through us.
I'm a convert & tired of always hearing of priests abusing kids. But what about all the supposedly Christians that have done the same thing or worse. They are going by hearsay not truth.
Most of the arrests are from cases from decades ago, the Church made reforms in the 1990s that largely corrected the problem but this is never talked about.
Just look at the horrible situation recently exposed in the IBPLP (baptist) churches & Bill Gothard! Not to mention the horrible situation one hears about going on in the mormon "church" or the real mormons of The Work, The Order, The AUB, The LeBaron Group, the Chad & Lori Daybell situation, the 8 passengers abuse case; not to mention groups like the Amish. Freaky stuff!
I miss Father Pigano and wish an announcement could have been made to inform viewers why he is no longer an integral part of the Catholic Talk Show. I continue to follow the insights and guidance the Catholic Talk Show provides. This week's show on Joe Rogan is about a sad individual who needs our prayers. He strikes me as someone who plays the "blame game." It's always someone else's fault-childhood, parents, Catholic schools, clergy, etc.
Fr. Rich is still with the show. He took a leave of absence from the show and his parish to take care of his mom who is sick. I guess they haven’t made much of a public statement just for privacy purposes.
@@Shadowshaelthank you! I’ve been wondering, and am glad to know he’s just taking a leave of absence! Prayers for his mother!
I recently found (and LOVE this show). I just assumed that sometimes, the hosts just mix it up. I’m watching older episodes, and also newer ones daily, so, I didn’t notice that the Good Father hasn’t been around much lately. I DO notice when he’s not in attendance, but I never realized that he’s been MIA. If I was watching in sequence, I’m sure that I would have, because, it annoys me when I’m “faithful” to a show or podcast, and no explanation is given, for the absence of a regular host.
I too was under the impression that father Pagano was coming back and also I do know that they gather together and film a bunch of episodes on the same day so it's possible that what we're seeing over the course of a couple of weeks was just filmed in two or three days.
I know Fr. is coming back
Rogan would do well to simply clean up his language. The endless montage of f-bombs gets really old.
I can’t believe any Christian listens to him at all.
Agree. He's so overated too. Like why do people think his opinion matters so much.
He clearly has no moral compass
Then don't watch.
That was Bill Burr.
I was a Catholic as a child and it was all positive for me my grandparents and great grandparents were devout Catholics, and they were great hard-working people. I'm back in the church now.
I was confirmed Saturday night.
Awesome! 👏 👍👍👍
Congratulations and welcome home!!🎉🎉🎉
I was a vocal critic of the Catholic Church for the last 20 years. I converted from atheist to Catholic last year.
In fairness to Rogan, some Catholic schools were terrible in the 70s and 80s. I went for 4 years in elementary school and while a couple of the teachers were good, overall the school administration was awful. Bullies were allowed to do whatever they wanted and when the victims fought back, they were the ones punished and treated as if they were lying about being bullied. Boys were allowed to torment and make crude remarks to girls who developed early and the girls were treated like they were asking for the ill treatment. The principal was mean-spirited, the gym teacher was nasty to us less athletic kids, and there wasn't much tolerance for out of the box thinking (and I don't even mean in terms of dogma or whatever, I mean kids who were more creative than academic had a miserable go of it). There was also a lot of class snobbery from the wealthier kids.
The negativity I associated with the church from those 4 years at that school had lasting effects on me that directly led to me bailing on the church as a teen and then staying away for over 30 years until relatively recently when I finally came back... after a health crisis and after years of running into enough nice Catholics and Christians to be willing to take a chance on the church again, and fortunately my new parish is very friendly and full of kind people (and tambourines and guitars on Saturday night, lol... I'm sure Ryan Scheele would be horrified).
My older brother went to the same school, also hated it, and still hasn't come back to the Church. And I know other people whose Catholic school experiences also scarred them and have never come back.
So if Rogan's experience in first grade was anything like mine, I do understand why that shaded his opinions of the church. That it happened at the same time as a traumatic family issue like the divorce is doubly tragic, and yes, that might have colored his memory of the school, too, but taking a snarky and dismissive tone about that and assuming he must be mistaken or lying because your own experience of a completely different Catholic school was positive doesn't help build bridges or welcome people to come back to the Church; it will just make people who had a terrible experience at those schools think Catholics are as awful as they remember their school experience being. As another commenter said, this episode isn't a good evangelization.
And I do think a kid who is told Christ is about mercy and love at church might reasonably expect the people at the church school to behave accordingly. Yes, as adults we learn that people don't always live up to their ideals, but that's a high level concept for a first grader. And yes, he clearly wasn't well-cathechized. Neither was I... until I came back to the church as an adult and took it upon myself to read up and learn the faith.
I can totally relate to everything you have said here. This is exactly my experience.
I am so sorry that you experienced this. While the folks in my school were not warm, it was safe. So much so, that when I went to public school in 8th grade , it so terrified me, and I went to work weekends at age 13 so I could go back to Catholic school... I'm glad you found your way back.
Great points, and I feel you.
I was bullied too, and then one day I had enough so I messed back and no apprehension happened.
So me and the bully were even, and I regained my dignity while gained respect as he didn't bugged me afterwards.
Anyhow, inasmuch I appreciate the Catholic setting I experienced from kindergarten to HS, and helped kept me Catholic as I moved to a state university in college, I appreciate even more the encounters that honed and fortified my Catholic faith since learning of Saint Pope John Paul II's apology to the world who are persecuted in the name of the Church.
That apology was huge for me, and that put a seal or closure to be a Catholic for life.
Snarky & Dismissive is indeed the wrong response.
Sorry for you & your brother + others who experienced similar.
CHRIST made it clear how
Children are to be treated.
I wished I went to Catholic school when I was young in the 80’s the public schools I went ito were horrible .
Bullies are everywhere
I’ve been a Catholic my entire life. Baptized as a 6 month old baby, received 1st Communion when I was 9 and Confirmation when I was 18.
Now at age 37, i’m a member of the Knights of Columbus. ❤️
No one can ever turn me away from my faith.
Pedofiles are everywhere. It can be anyone. I think the only way out of this is the church needs to really buckle down on these priests doing this. There is a documentary about a bishop in Australia that hasn't been stripped of everything from what he has done to Indigenous people. It was a priest that turned this bishop in. We need more priests like this who will stand up for what is wrong.
McCarrick & Pell.
Once you know, you just cannot
UN-know.
Certainly, GOD will reward those who do His will.
My heart hurts rn, enough that I will be including Burr and Rogan in my prayers tonight. The Church saved my life last year, and is in the process of saving my eternal soul right now.
I have friends that are Jw. They really try to convince me I follow the wrong path . They asked me to go watch the last supper memorial they hold. I was surprised to see they passed around bread and wine and only 2 ate and drank. They say they are chosen. I asked the lady how did she know she was chosen for heaven. I didnt really get an answer. But she did say it was wrong for us catholics to take rhe sacraments. All confusing. I will never be convinced to leave the catholic church 😊
Thank you, CTS for defending our faith❤
I’d like to accompany Joe Rogan and whomever to an Aramaic mass at a Chaldean Catholic Church near me in San Diego, CA. You hear, breathe and feel ur on cloud 9 knowing ur listening to the language of the Bible and of Jesus.
Listen to how calming, peaceful, soothing and satisfying “aboon d’bishmaya” (our father in heaven) and “shlama elaakh ya Mariam” (Hail Mary) sounds !
Rogan needs our prayers .
I was hoping for at least a vid or anything this week. Happy Easter. I saw st Judes bones 🙏
We named my boy Jude tadeo id seriously be lying if I said I didn't lleave Judes relics without some huge positive spiritual. My experience is very energy and power perceptable to me. But I don't doubt that every single person left with their own Communication from Jude as well one of the best experiences of my life 🙏
My Confirmation name is Jude. St. Jude means a lot to me
@@jeffjacobson59a man for impossible missions, that there saint
I hated Catholic school most of my nine years in them until 10th grade when I started Public schools.
But, now I realize how much I owe to those nuns and dedicated lay teachers in those vital early years.
God bless them.
Orémus Y'all.
A show on how to deal with anti Catholic friends or family?
Co-workers too, there's an idiot at my job who thinks the Church was successful in the middle ages because "it scared people into thinking they were witches"
@@johnbenedictxviii wow.. people are nuts.. my best friend started going on and on about how the church is so selfish and we have all this stuff under the Vatican and we are selfish for having the crown of thorns or something. Idk I just didn't say anything. I thought of how pope Francis gave part of the true cross away to king Charles though lol..
One thing to learn from Joe’s comments about Catholic school is the importance of how we treat people. Maybe people should choose their church based on what is true, but humans tend to go where they feel welcomed.
The bad part is that people listen to comments like Joe Rogan’s and don’t go do research and just repeat what they hear.
As a faithful, practicing Catholic of 70, I have some negative memories of Catholic summer school for a month to prepare for first Communion due to one reprimanding "mean" nun. Always getting mad at me and others. I was a very shy, well behaved kid. If she was my only experience I wouldn't be Catholic today. Thank God for a wonderful teaching Catholic mother.
Joe Rogan needs to have Jimmy Akin on his podcast….and I need to be on The Catholic Talk Show 👀
I’m 33 and I believe in the power of Christ via the Catholic Church. I haven’t always been a believer, but I am. That is all ❤🙏
Let's pray for them that Hate us.
Hate ? Religion of Catholicism
itself might indeed be hated by some of those who sincerely
believe it’s a deceptive religion.
I can feel the pain Joe feels when he talks about his experience when he was in elementary school. I think he is a sensitive soul & feels things deeply & the teacher he maybe shouldn't have been teaching children. Public school have great teachers and not so great teachers, bad teachers etc ...
Rogan could easily have a big shot Catholic heavy hitter like bishop Barron, Scott Hahn, Trent Horn etc answer any of his doubts misconceptions or whatever.
Never heard of Joe before and will avoid at all costs. Thanks for the education.
He's an idiot
Religious schools in the 80’s were VERY different. I went to a non-denominational Christian school. They paddled us and made us get down on our knees to “beg for forgiveness.” I became an atheist at 13 because of how I was treated in that school. Add to that, the trauma of bad parenting at home, fighting, affairs, and financial cheating and no access to help at school. Just being threatened with hell, chastised, and paddled by the principal. And we wonder why kids run from religion after these experiences!
I'm a Catholic convert and feel very blessed, but I kind of resent that you guys were trying to invalidate Joe Rogan's negative and hurtful experience at a Catholic school. "Oh, he was only six years old." - "Oh, he was only there for 9 months." - "Oh, MY dad was rapped on his knuckles and it didn't make HIM leave the Church." Let me tell you from personal experience (as an adult (back then non-Catholic) mom who had a kid in Catholic school) that yes, there are some nasty, horrible people there, teachers AND parents, just like everywhere else. And it is a fact that there have been Catholic schools in the past (sadly, some run by nuns) where the kids were emotionally and physically abused. To minimize his trauma or talk it away doesn't help. It should be accepted for what it is (or for what he experienced it as) so healing can occur. Sorry to say, but many cradle Catholics' first instinct is to make excuses for any negative experiences or to cover them up-which is one of the reasons that the Church is in such a predicament with the abuse scandals today.
Thank you guys for introducing me to the Hallow App! It’s been such an amazing program with so much sessions of prayer, learning, and spiritual growth that I felt has brought me closer to God.
Here in Montreal Canada 🇨🇦 my dad went to Catholic school and he did well. He was a bit scared of the nuns but he said he had respect for them at the same time. My dad left the church because of the church scandal that happened here in Quebec Canada 🇨🇦. A lot of people left. The wounds are still there. However my dad believes in God but doesn't trust the church. I made a rosary for my dad and his response was "I'm not going to use this, but thank you". Trying to get my dad to go to mass with me. He is 84 years old and my wish is he will go back before he passes on.
Betrayed is how lots of people feel when there’s Hypocrisy. That is what shatters trust & respect.
Secret Sex Sins from “the one true holy apostolic church” ?
CHRIST Warned about religious deceivers.
Most people who bash anything have psychological issues about the topic. I had a terrible experience in the first grade with catholic nuns. My parents took me out, stayed with the church, however, college years, after years, lots of searching. Finally have come to see the truth about life through the Catholic Church. 63 years of age now. There is still hope for Joe 😊
An 8 year old in my daughter’s school convinced her parents to put her back in public school because she found catholic school very boring. She only went for two years and her mom is a very devoted catholic. Some parents just give in too easily. She was doing great in school too. We have never encountered teachers in catholic school the way Joe Rogan speaks of. All the teachers have been very sweet and supportive. We currently have 5 kids in catholic school and they, like most kids complain of the work but they also understand they are better off in there than public school.
Pray to get Bishop Barron on the JRE
Or Jimmy Akin.
So grateful my parents brought me up & my siblings as Catholics! Praise God!
Let's keep Joe in our prayers 🙏
I'm a traditional Catholic. In school, there was a Nun in Boston named Sister Mary Discipline. She walked around with a hockey stick and would check you into the lockers if you had been breaking the rules. True story. Don't discount the fear, don't rationalize his explanation. Meanness was the norm. Glad you all had a great experience, but I believe him.
Guys your show is awesome! May I recommend bringing in guests, like fr Carlos Martin's etc
I experienced the same unkindness as a first grader in catholic school... We had a very strict and unkind nun that was pretty terrifying at that age. He is dead on about the confusion you feel... we know in our hearts that Jesus is everything good & beautiful as a kid. But when we see adults in the church behave this way it is confusing. I love being a catholic, I love my faith. But it's important as a catholic that we are transparent about how the church has injured so many... and instead of mocking or casting aside Joes honesty, we acknowledge that there can be crazy people in church that are not always the best reflection of Christ, however a reminder to never let a mere human/experience have so much power over us that we are led astray... There will forever be distractions attempting to lead us from Christ.
Thanks for the guidance you provide people. God bless you all!
Fine line between discipline and threating . I can imagine what kind of discipline there was at San Francisco public schools.
IIRC, and this is subject for correction, Joe Rogan was born and spent his early years in NJ.
He moved to California after HS to pursue a career in comedy.
People with shallow understanding of Christianity can only give shallow observations to the church..
I just want to preface what i'm about to write by saying that I would say that I am now Catholic, more than I am non-catholic, and faith is a big part of my life. I also grew up in a household that is very God-fearing.
That being said, I feel like my catholic schooling honestly made me much less Catholic, and in fact I would say it made me much less Christian and even less religious - to the point where I honestly doubted it all. All of my schooling from the age of 5 until the age of 18 was Catholic. (There's no middle school here, so it's just primary and high schools)
Of course, this was my experience - so take it with a grain of salt. I have spoken about this to a lot of my former classmates who are still my close friends and we all had a similar experience. Some have become more agnostic or atheistic, and others have come back to church like I have, so it's a mix.
I've always felt that the schools that I attended only really paid lip service to the values of Christianity. We would have mass, learn about the theory of religion (kind of - at the end of my high schooling, i probably wasn't even able to quote you a single bible verse apart from some of the 10 commandments that i remembered from The Simpsons), we were obligated to sing Christian songs against our will, and our school houses had the names of saints.
However, in the day-to-day schooling, the school was very strict, and yes, there were teachers that would believe themselves to be ultra pious and then openly threaten you and treat you like dirt, the school was obsessed with gathering funds for some reason even though the fees were not cheap (if you didn't donate to the school fundraisers, you'd get punished - yes this is true) - I think what i'm getting at is that there was a fundamental mismatch between what the school professed and what they ultimately practiced. I feel like this makes kids think twice about staying in the church in the end, which is sad, because once you're out, one can realise that the school is actually not a great representation of what Christ is all about. Instead, kids become easily carried away when they see their tertiary classmates, coworkers, etc make fun of the church, as now they have personal experience.
As i'm watching this, I'm finding it a bit frustrating because we as a community shouldn't be blindly rejecting the points of view of those who criticise us. Although I don't appreciate some of the crudeness that Joe uses in some of his arguments, I honestly kind of agree with him on some of the points he made about catholic schools - as you can probably tell.
I loved my Catholic school! Shout out to Notre Dame in Wichita Falls! The nuns were actually the nicest of the teachers and the school lunches were way better than in the public school. When I went to the public school, I was so far ahead academically that the public school used me as a tutor.
Fr rich ❤️. Always happy for vids thanks a million 🙏
I really hope Joe Rogan sees this, and i really hope he invites the Catholic talk show to the Joe Rogan experience. Nothing would make me happier than to see the Catholic talk show on Joe Rogan's show. It would do my heart well for Joe to hear about our rich and wonderful Catholic faith from the two Ryans and Fr. Rich.
Being Catholic today is very similar to being American today. I totally believe the USA today stands for many things I do not believe in, they have strayed from their origins, the founding principles are frequently ignored or lost. The country needs to cleans itself and return to its foundation. Catholism is the same. Proud to be both, not blind to either.
I used to be. Catholic but now I’m a born again Christian
Praise God🙏
In other words, you've abandoned the Church Jesus Christ established, and you accepted the mistaken Bible interpretations of radio preachers. Time to come back home to Catholicism, dump the home-made Protestant theology that has no history for the first 1500 years after the Catholic Church wrote and compiled the Bible, then preserved it (and its proper interpretation) until you showed up.
That’s dumb just say you’re low iq
Guys, I love this show and I watch a LOT of Rogan too. I recognize that deep, deep, deeeeeeeeep wound that he is carrying. Whenever I've heard him talk about Catholicism, it makes my heart ache. I, myself am in the process of reverting back to the Catholic church after 30+ years. It has taken 3 very solid smacks upside the head by God, but those wounds, often dealt by lay people with who mean well but suffer similar wounds, or religious authority figures who abuse that authority (or maybe didn't understand it well enough?) can be difficult to recognize, accept and admit. It has to be done, but it is so difficult. My husband grew up in a different religion and suffers similar wounds. It's pretty weird how religious wounds can turn a critical thinker, especially someone who seeks truth, inside out. But for those of us who keep seeking until we find, Grace is so important and so appreaciated. I pray for Joe that he will keep seeking and that he will find & I pray for you too gentlemen. Much love!
Well done guys! Amen and God bless!
Born a d raised Catholic and Catholic school and I was never scared. I had great respect for the sisters and teachers. I am a Catholic school teacher and we never threaten students or mistreat them. We have some tough kids and they need Jesus and to see Jesus through us. Poor man.
Praying for Joe Rogan’s enlightenment and return to the Lord. 🥲🙏🙏🙏❤️
I hope Joe Rogan watches this show. It has taken me a lifetime to grow in my faith as a Catholic. Sadly, so many follow him, and it hurts me to hear him berate a faith he really knows nothing about.
When I was a kid Protestant adults were mean and cruel and I didn’t like to go to church because they seemed hateful so I definitely doubted God was there. So I was looking for love at 13 I ran into Jehovah’s Witnesses who indoctrinated me with heresy and eventually left Christianity all together there is so many stories like mine so I definitely see Rogans point now many ppl are coming back to Christianity.
I have to confess that I had a very similar experience to Joe’s in Catholic School back in the 90s. There wasn’t any oversight for teachers’ behavior, and the was an atmosphere of extreme discipline. I’m talking about teachers flipping desks with kids sitting in them, throwing things at students, berating them in front of the classroom, making fun of personal things about students that they couldn’t help (height, weight etc). There’s definitely something to what he’s saying. My parents had it worse though, they were physically hit a lot by teachers there. They thought it had changed. They put us in there because the public schools nearby were violent, better of two evils I guess. I guess it did change a little..my sister and I were never physically hit at least. Just belittled, constantly accused of things we didn’t do, and were terrified to literally do anything. We held our breaths the whole time we were there. Thank God it only lasted 3 years. It did take some time to get past. HOWEVER, my sister and I both still love the Catholic Church and are still practicing today. I don’t know what’s up with the Catholic School thing, but what we went through is not ok. We recognize that and choose to separate our school experience from the faith itself instead of letting that end generations of Catholicism in our family.
My sister left the Church and all religion behind because of the actions on one Nun who hated being a teacher - she wanted yo be a missionary in Africa - and she took it out on the kids. My brother along with every other preteen boy on the parish was insulted, shouted at and hit by the pastor. Luckily he liked the other priests so while he wandered away he wandered back. My sister was so traumatized that for most of her life she had been an atheist. She has only recently come back far enough post a sign in her yard saying, God bless our first responders. ( Thankfully, I was sent to public school where I had a truly hate filled woman in 6th grade. To this day I am a practicing Catholic, and I will keep practicing until I get it right. But I do everything I can to dissuade people from sending kids to public school, private or parochial only. Which means I am like my sister)
I just finished my conversion (baptism, Eucharist, confirmation) at fourteen years old. My parents are atheist and support me thought they do not like the church. They make these claims too.
You guys should be guests on his show. Go for it!
My dad was dyslexic & the nuns in his school were super mean to him. Turned him off towards the church for sure. Never underestimate personal experiences with “believers” as a prime determinant of an individual’s view of God & church. Most people are going to use personal experience as opposed to theological intellectualism for their worldview.
CHRIST warned people about
mistreating children.
I find many of Joe Rogan's comments offensive.
I am staunchly Catholic today but I prayed SO hard during 1st grade to never, ever have to go to Catholic school again. My mother's cousin was a Franciscan & I LOVED her. But my teacher(nun), as well as the children in my neighborhood were truly evil (I could list the grave sins I was subjected to). Thank God that he answered my prayers. My husband had a similar experience in a different Catholic school.
Born and raised catholic. I’m also a fan of the JRE podcast and I agree it is disheartening to hear this rhetoric about the catholic faith. Though I wouldn’t disregard his experience as a complete lie. I think that it is totally possible for a kid or anyone to experience unfortunate circumstances from people in the church. I think it’s very common to be someone who hasn’t humbled himself before god. we are fortunate to have this faith so ofc i’d say pray for him because this is easily my big brother.
I also find it hypocritical that he preaches to give certain comedians who have said or done messed up things in the past a second chance and to forgive and move on but doesn’t have the eyes to see that was gods will when he sent his son for us.
I also put my kids in catechism classes and had a bad experience the very first day with the teacher. I voiced my concern and was able to have them moved to another set of teachers and my girls have been completely blessed with a beautiful experience and amazing teachers. It takes maturity to not let people in the church ruin your own relationship with the church or god. All that to say I love the catholic faith ❤️
I personally thought the Diana Walsh Pasulka episode was interesting.
Going to Catholic School in the 1960's could be pretty brutal. I love the Catholic Church, but I can totally relate to his experience as a young child. There was not a clear policy on corporal punishment, and depending on the teacher, things could really get out of hand, whether the teacher was lay or religious. Some teachers were also emotionally abusive. It wasn't just an isolated teacher. I attended public school in kindergarten and first grade and half of second grade, then Catholic school for half of second grade and half of third grade, then back to public for the remainder of 3rd grade because the nun was so abusive it impaired my ability to learn, then back to Catholic School from 4th - 8th, which was an increasingly better experience. I don't blame it on the Church in general, but certainly more than a few parishes were very lax in supervising the schools they operated, and a small child looking for nurture certainly would not have found it in grades 1-4 in the Catholic School I attended. It was extremely tough love, and some teachers should not have been teaching. I also had some amazing nuns in grades 7-8 for whom I am extremely grateful. No matter how Catholic you are, or how much you love the church, it is important to own the fact that not just a few children had some pretty rough experiences; especially in primary grades where they were easily confused and could not defend themselves. Because his parents were getting a divorce, they were probably too immersed in their own issues to listen to his concerns and address them. Otherwise his parents would likely have marched down to the school and read his teachers the riot act, or even removed him for a year when he was not thriving.
“so abusive it impaired my ability to learn”
Amazing!! I didnt know there were Catholic spaces like this
Continued prayers for Fr. Pagano's mom. And all of you.
Priests dress that way because they are set aside for God. They are special. They SHOULD dress differently than your average Joe (pun intended 😉)
💲 Costs of clothing can be astounding.
Joe Rogan needs a lot of prayers! If you don't have the facts..... There's a reason why GOD gave you two ears and ONE mouth!
Prayers for the conversion of sinners, AMEN🙏
Where is Father Pagano?
He took leave from work and the show I think ❤
His mom has cancer and he took a leave of absence to be with her.
Thank you for telling us .
I’m glad I had the opportunity to watch your webcast about Joe Rogan. I would like to make a comment to the words, anger, suffering lies, and bad, intent, and where all these words truly stem from the father of lies. To have seen how Joe Rogan and his words are so important in this world today and his mind abilities of understanding had to be destroyed at a very early age because he was so smart I pray for Joe Rogan, and I pray for you guys and hope we can all find a way to our Lord God and creator through our savior, Christ Jesus amen
And honestly, I really like Joe Rogan💪🏼 hey look at this onion lol !!!
Everything in God‘s time, not our own ✌️❤️🫡