You all are incorrectly identifying the horn lol, it's a raised letter K5LA, the same horn used on some P42s, the majority of the COASTER cab cars, most chargers and the SD70ACE-T4.
Great to see these things up and testing if it weren’t for the SC-44s having a stroke in the heat and getting temporarily banned of the Bakersfield sub that would’ve been Amtrak California’s first fully Siemens set
I wonder if the derate on the ALC-42 will help with the heat issues. I know Brightline has no issues in the Florida heat, but theirs are de-rated to 4000hp. Also funny that the Chargers overheat in hot weather, but also overheat in snow when the radiators get clogged up with snow.
@@mrvwbug4423 Interesting you bring that up. I understand the performance of the ALC-42's on The Empire Builder last winter wasn't good at all. But I had no idea the SC-44's overheat in the summertime.....
Nice! I have to say it was really cool to see CDTX 6962 on point of Amtrak 712 and then the Siemens Venture Cabcar test train 868 with CDTX 9302 on point.
Glad that the cab car finally comes around, but what bothers me is that they never streamlined it all. Hopefully they’ll do that in the end of testing.
❤❤❤❤🎉 video my first time on SIEMENS CHARGERS cab car train in October 11 to San Francisco for fleet week I've been riding in the old bi level sets my favorite cab car is 8306 with the P5# horn is cool 😎 👍 keep it the more videos of cab car cdtx Siemens venture cab car please 🥺🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲❤
This is normal in Europe. Only that you see electric locomotives with us. In addition, the trend is developing anyway towards railcars and away from locomotives trains.
That’s because the cab car is a newer product, it doesn’t actually have anything to do with being similar to the SC-44 or ALC-42. For example, some of the newer Coaster SC-44s have ditch lights that flash like an ALC-42.
They apparently expect less carnage on that route. The extended nose cones on Brightline are more to make crash damage easier to repair than for aerodynamics, even though they're the only Chargers actually operating at 125mph.
@@mrvwbug4423 I meant like why won't they use the ALC-42E charger looks. In my opinion, they look much better the the current model. Also, are they going to remove that weird hump on the back of those chargers once the single level venture cars are in use, it looks kind of silly.
@@TheAmtrakSpartanIncorrect, CalTrans did not order any for the surfliner and are not proposing to. Instead they're sending down pre existing equipment to the surfliner
There needs to be some actual flow from the blue line running through the windows to the cab. The straight vertical line from the cab to the coach just looks awful IMO. Don't even get me started on the way those ditch lights flash.
They're not being retired. Caltrans is just shifting them to the Capitol Corridor. The Comets are being retired, but they are very old and pretty atrocious.
As Toha said above they won’t be retired just moved to the Capital Corridor and Iv been hearing that the Alstom built California Cars are gonna be moved to the Surfliner in order for them to handle the 6 Car sets and should allow Amtrak to get their Superliners back
If the Talgos taught us anything, it's that over-engineered, semi-articulated cars with automatic doors with little steps that come out aren't always a great idea. Just more shit to break and cause delays.
Why is aerodynamic of new cab car is not so good? This is a new locomotive! We live in 21st century but aerodynamic is not acceptable! At least Brightline cab car is much better and made by the same company
@@TheAmtrakSpartan Um yeah I'm well aware of that. They ain't staying here, they're eventually going back to NorCal maybe in a few months time and they won't be needed up there
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I can't wait to see those Brand new Amtrak Siemens Venture Cab Car in service once the testing is complete
It's sad that its just a reskin of sc44's
FINALLY! I was waiting to see any posts of these leading on whatever Amtrak services, and there we go! That horn sounds very solid.
Yes it does, sounds like a P42.
It sounds like coaster cab car
It sounds no different than the normal Charger horns, it’s ordinary to me….
I was waiting so long since it was built to be testing. But anyways, the horn sounds like a SD70ACE-T4.
You all are incorrectly identifying the horn lol, it's a raised letter K5LA, the same horn used on some P42s, the majority of the COASTER cab cars, most chargers and the SD70ACE-T4.
Finally a new K5LA that doesn't sound like it's been crunched
I feel like the ALC-42s sound the same but I might be wrong idk
Cough 2123 / 2124
Probably due to no heated back caps, since it's just a cab car
Great to see these things up and testing if it weren’t for the SC-44s having a stroke in the heat and getting temporarily banned of the Bakersfield sub that would’ve been Amtrak California’s first fully Siemens set
I wonder if the derate on the ALC-42 will help with the heat issues. I know Brightline has no issues in the Florida heat, but theirs are de-rated to 4000hp. Also funny that the Chargers overheat in hot weather, but also overheat in snow when the radiators get clogged up with snow.
@@mrvwbug4423 Interesting you bring that up. I understand the performance of the ALC-42's on The Empire Builder last winter wasn't good at all. But I had no idea the SC-44's overheat in the summertime.....
welcome to the future, Amtrak
Glad to see progress is being made
Thank you very much for sharing this video! I look forward to the day we have these cab cars and their trains on our Amtrak Cascades.
#9302 sounds awesome and looks great. Nice video.
Nice! I have to say it was really cool to see CDTX 6962 on point of Amtrak 712 and then the Siemens Venture Cabcar test train 868 with CDTX 9302 on point.
Now all we need are the cafe cars
Excited to see the Siemens venture cab car in test train heck yeah 😅❤
Great video!
Amtrak's new cab car looks sooooo awesome!!!!!!!!
Nice test train Amtrak venture sets amazing ❤❤❤❤ very cool 💯
That thing is absolutely awesome! Can’t wait for the full set to appear! (Charger-venture-venture cc)
Not a huge Amtrak San Joaquin fan but I like this new trainset, by the way 👍👍
Great video! Thanks for capturing
Didn’t expect the K5LA to be better than what we have been getting. Nice video
Glad that the cab car finally comes around, but what bothers me is that they never streamlined it all. Hopefully they’ll do that in the end of testing.
❤❤❤❤🎉 video my first time on SIEMENS CHARGERS cab car train in October 11 to San Francisco for fleet week I've been riding in the old bi level sets my favorite cab car is 8306 with the P5# horn is cool 😎 👍 keep it the more videos of cab car cdtx Siemens venture cab car please 🥺🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲❤
Wonderful catch
Theres some irony in the fact this new trainset isnt even being halled by the locomotive that sort of came with it
Looks good
Now we can finally see the Siemens Aero trainsets; about the only thing needed now is a food service car or a lounge car?
Wonderful video ❤❤❤❤🎉😊
I miss that today
Wow😮it’s so weird looking but cool at the same time
Yeah, the cars are "very conceptual'' looking.
This is normal in Europe. Only that you see electric locomotives with us. In addition, the trend is developing anyway towards railcars and away from locomotives trains.
Ok I did not expect to see 2004 on this train
That’s got to be one of the best raised letter k5la’s I have ever heard
@@lricco502 Whats wrong with you
@@CalifornianRailfanWhats wrong with them making that comment? I agree with them on the horn, its pretty strong
Couldn’t agree more! And the Graham White E Bell.
@@TheMegaFranBoyThose are on.. Pretty much everything at this point, it's just a common E-Bell
It feels so odd because its a charger
But its also a cab car
But it feels like a charger 😂
It’s just a train. Idk why we all going nuts it’s just a cab car it’s just a train lol
@@adventuresofamtrakcascades301Since when were people going nuts?
That was the general intention.
@@GamingRailfanner thats the question I ask myself
It actually doesn’t look that bad. It sounds like a regular CabCar too and do you know what trains it’ll be on?
san joaquins, in order to replace the tired comet cars
Nice video, I love it ❤🎉
2:14 K5LAB?
Oh wow something futuristic from a plan turned into reality how interesting
these will be Amtrak temporary train until the high speed rail is up and running.
Martinez my stop when I go to Walnut creek from LA
Bachmann needs to get on the ball.
Hey do you have a good update for the train cab car Siemens venture sets to enter service on the Amtrak train San Joaquin trains?? 🚂
The horn actually sounds pretty good compared to the ones on the ALCs
5:39 double decker cab cars are better than
those will be heading for the 710/719 when they get the green light
Can I use this footage with credit in my next railroad news video?
@@WorldwideRailfan Absolutely! Thanks for the feature!
For a second I thought the thumbnail was edited
The futures coming
I thought the ditch lights flashing would be like the SC-44s but they ended up being like the ALC-42s.
the gw e bell is on the right, unlike the sc-44s and alc-42s
That’s because the cab car is a newer product, it doesn’t actually have anything to do with being similar to the SC-44 or ALC-42. For example, some of the newer Coaster SC-44s have ditch lights that flash like an ALC-42.
@@MrMarshmallow26I have noticed that, I wonder why Siemens chose to make flash like that. It looks so weird to me….
@@MrMarshmallow26 oh really. I have never noticed that.
@eclipz4129 personally I prefer this change as the og sc44s lights just flashing immediately felt kinda odd to me
What's that square box infront of the cab?
Is it running now cause I’m going to Merced in a couple weeks
Now I see the E bell in 5:10
I can see it too 5:11
A train set with a charger cab? Not bad I must say.
What camera was used to shoot this?
I know this may seemed mixed but how come they don't use the other charger varients which have a better lookin front?
Probably to match the charger variant CalTrans already has
Because San Jaoquins uses SC-44s so they got the nose cones to match them.
They apparently expect less carnage on that route. The extended nose cones on Brightline are more to make crash damage easier to repair than for aerodynamics, even though they're the only Chargers actually operating at 125mph.
@@mrvwbug4423 I meant like why won't they use the ALC-42E charger looks. In my opinion, they look much better the the current model. Also, are they going to remove that weird hump on the back of those chargers once the single level venture cars are in use, it looks kind of silly.
@@johncrest-r6nNo they most likely wont, the bi-levels will still be in use
Alright not too bad
sounds so good, now that its being used it doesn't look so bad.
why would you use a F59 trailing instead of an SC44? The Sc44s are gonna be whats used with them almost all the time
The SC44s were banned from the San Joaquins route for the summer cuz of heating
Will these be running on the Surfline?
No 😂
@@GRFP6903 good
@@GRFP6903Soon…
@@TheAmtrakSpartan they are not
@@TheAmtrakSpartanIncorrect, CalTrans did not order any for the surfliner and are not proposing to. Instead they're sending down pre existing equipment to the surfliner
good❤
Why wasn’t there a Siemens SC-44 locomotive?
Temporarily not using them in the Central Valley to help them avoid overheating in the high temperatures.
@@railtechadventurerIt’s gonna be banned for the summers. All of the SC44s had to be on the Capitol Corridor…
@@railtechadventurer Where are you guys getting this nonsense from?
How many Venture Cab are we gonna have?
They ordered 7 for the sets on this service.
@@railtechadventurerIs it in the shop at this time?
Bro they used 2004 and not a charger, that's new
Apparently there's a charger ban for the San Joaquins because of BNSF not wanting them on their tracks for a bit
@GamingRailfanner yea that's what I heard and in my opinion 2008 2011 & 2015 should return
BNSF banned the because of heat restrictions
I was not expecting the K5LA on the siemens cab car to sound smooth, although I'm not really liking the possibility of the NPCU's being replaced
please give it a proper K5LA
The sc-0
What is that thing on the front
timestamp?
Everything is absolutely beautiful but honetly I think the livery could have been better.
I’m not a fan of how the cab looks separate without the same paint
YOOOOOO
They had to mess up the consist putting an F 59 on it smh
Kinda wish it sounded like 2124 granted I know people don’t like that sound
They really couldn’t put a Charger on haha. Still haven’t seen a complete set
With F59PHI #2001 filling in, It leads me to believe the SC-44 was down for maintenance.
@@anthonyangelici2963It wasn’t. The SC44s were banned from the Bakersfield Sub for the summer due to how it overheats at this time of year.
@@TheAmtrakSpartan Source? You guys really need to stop making crap up.
Can't wait to ride on VIA Rail's equipment, it's in service East of Toronto, but I live west of Toronto near London
I was riding the San Joaquins regularly for work in Bakersfield and Fresno. But now I'm no, not on those cars. It's too long without a cafe car.
What the hell is up with the wind over there bruh? that is so much UNLIKE california winds
There needs to be some actual flow from the blue line running through the windows to the cab. The straight vertical line from the cab to the coach just looks awful IMO. Don't even get me started on the way those ditch lights flash.
Dark Blue Panels between the engineer's cab window on the front would've been better than silver ones.
Please don't give me back issues
Look at that beautiful cafe car... oh wait, we don't have one because of the freakin idiots at the JPA!
When do you guys feel, that regulation will finally be able to drop those noisy fake bell sounds reminiscent of the coal engine aera?
I’m not sure how I feel about the double deck cars being retired….
They're not being retired. Caltrans is just shifting them to the Capitol Corridor. The Comets are being retired, but they are very old and pretty atrocious.
As Toha said above they won’t be retired just moved to the Capital Corridor and Iv been hearing that the Alstom built California Cars are gonna be moved to the Surfliner in order for them to handle the 6 Car sets and should allow Amtrak to get their Superliners back
If the Talgos taught us anything, it's that over-engineered, semi-articulated cars with automatic doors with little steps that come out aren't always a great idea. Just more shit to break and cause delays.
This to Me, Sounds Cursed!
Nooo keep the F59PHI and the double stack
Capital corridor will still have em
It’s starting, oh no…
It’s not replacing the Bi-Levels yet. But if it does, the Bi-Levels are going to the Capitol Corridor.
That looks so cursed ngl
Why is aerodynamic of new cab car is not so good? This is a new locomotive! We live in 21st century but aerodynamic is not acceptable! At least Brightline cab car is much better and made by the same company
Ah yes, the best american passenger trains are the ones that are european 😂
I don’t like it, will take time getting used to
No please no
Why?
@@sweetmyth2537 The end of the good stuff on Amtrak. No more NPCUs, no more comets
Ikr the newer Amtrak locomotives (ALCs and SC44s) suck. Im definitely not looking forward to when they replace cascades with aero trainsets.
@@CalifornianRailfan and no more f59s :( or p42s or bilevel cars
@@CalifornianRailfansome comets and NPCUs were moved to the surfliner
Absolutely not, the K5LA might sound nice but the Gallery Cab Cars are better than this. This looks so cursed 😭
Weird horn and ding ding things! Horrible movies style
I cant stand the venture coaches and i despise the SC44, they really said "lets put them together" oh lord....
Nice video though
Those things are ugly!
I cant seem to fathom how this happened..how did it get impaled through the car?
Oh hell nah, these are whats replacing the NPCUs
Relax, the NPCUs will still be in California…but on the Surfliner.
@@TheAmtrakSpartan Um yeah I'm well aware of that. They ain't staying here, they're eventually going back to NorCal maybe in a few months time and they won't be needed up there