The problem with the the secular model of governance is that the burden of secularism is entirely laid upon the Hindu majority while the peaceful religion choke us with their religious fanatacism... Let there be no doubt that if our culture and religion and gods are disrespected you can expect to be served the same ...give respect and take respect...it's as simple as this ! No longer you will find the majority being mute to the oppression that we met for the last 60 years!
@@umeshverma8705 they are all sardesai's invitees... it is his show he brings in those who are his friends... Gupta's points were so good that they had to clap - this sort of thing always happens when Tharoor debates with a better individual (more complete individual) than half baked like himself...watch his debate with Saideepak... he speaks the same ghisapita stuff about hindutva and his own tatva- which is so fake and at times very incorrect... the audience turned totally against him and even there he said something like what he says here about the audience being more in preference of Gupta's ideas... he is such a pretender
U r absolutely right Mr Kumar. Harsh was very straight forward, honest, clear cut abt a universal policy for manking. Whereas Sashi as a politician was walking a thight political survival rope while treading along d fine grey lines to play his political gimmick. Wassallam
A Hindu family who keeps away from a Muslim is self motivated. But a Muslim keeping away from non Muslims is a doctrine from d Holy Quran only. Pls don't play politics yet again n generalising a minute issue scalled up. Very unbecoming of u Sashi. Wassallam
If Krishna was a God, He cld hv stopped such a mammoth war which caused massive destruction n lost of lives. Krishna broke d Laws of d War by deceitfully asking Arjuna to spear d unarmed Karna. U call that a deceitful act n a God will not promote unjust. I don't know if Krishna was God or not, but Mahabaratha paints him a mortal man only. U can hear from Sadguru abt many issues. Wassallam
@@navaratnamselvaduray2179 And What Is Your Source And Understanding About Mahabharata n Krishna...???? And Why Krishna Should Try To Stop The War....The War Was Necessary And The War Is Not For The Empire Etc...It Was For Dharma...And Dharma Is Not A Narrow Term..It's Ambit Is Very Large... After So Much Injustices Krishna Asked To Duryodhana Just Give 5 Villages To Pandavas... Duryodhana Didn't Provide That.. So Pandavas And Krishna Tried To Avoid The War But The War Have To Happen... And About Killing Of Karna... Who Said You That Karna Was Unarmed Then..He Was On The Ground To Recover His Chariot's Wheel..But He Has His Wepons...On The Ground He Had Tried To Use Brahmastra But He Failed.. And Let Assume For A While That He Was Unarmed.. Okk The Same Karna Had Involved In Unfair Killing Of Abhimanyu So There Is No Wrong In Killing Him Unfairly...
@@navaratnamselvaduray2179 And About Ideology Etc..Of Hindu n Muslim Family... It Doesn't Matter Hindu Family Who Keeps Away From A Muslim Is Self Motivated Etc..Or Not.. The Matter Is Hindus Don't Get Brainwashed And Kill People For The Reason That They Are From Other Religion Or They Defame Or Criticize The Hindu Religion Or Their Deities..Traditions Etc... But Unfortunately The Muslims Are... "Sar Tan Se Juda" Has Become The Tag Line.... So Accept The Fault Of Yours... Muslims Have To Stop Themselves From Getting Brainwashed..They Have To Develop Their Own Conscience Then They Will Able To Understand What Is Wrong..What Is Right...Etc...
@@praveenhegde8107 And those are exactly the qilaities , people always attribute to Shashi in praising him, without judging any substance in his words or deeds. Here for the first time he faced a person who has the expertise ( investment banking) as well as eloquence and wide world view. So Shasi faded away in front of him.
We are Hindus and we are surprised when we are told that we are intolerant. We scratch our heads and think when we became intolerant to others. We sense some danger and consequently vote for BJP. As long as rajdeep Sandestin anchors and Rahul leads congress then BJP will win
I wish everyone was like you and felt bad on being called intolerant, because they themselves aren't. The majority don't, and are proud to be called intolerant. They are proud that they have kicked muslim families out of their neighbourhoods.
Agreed... I also scratched my head when my muslim friend said your gods are rubbish. I was shocked because I had never spoke to him like that about his religion even I didn't even think about his religion that much we were friends. But after that day I maintained a distance with him.
Bombs that only cause destruction by their myopic nature. Islamic extremism is unacceptable. But so is blithely ignoring the role of people like Khan Abdul Ghaffar Khan and Maulana Madani in opposing the partition. Mr Madhusudan has a peculiar understanding of cause and effect. The fact is that exlcusionary thinking was, and will continue to be, the root of division. Even if a small seed exists, exacerbating the issue and then expressing vindication is hardly a very compelling view.
@@Clark510 They were not ex-muslims. Jamiat-Ulema-e-Hind, a prominent organization that was against the partition, was (and is) comprised of dedicated Muslims.
Nobody was "stunned". This was a friendly discourse in which the respectable individuals eloquently expressed their views (though I think that Dr Tharoor had a slight edge). I also liked that the dialogue ended on a positive note.
@@rajareddy3104 I have spent a significant amount of time responding to apologists of the empire. It's just that I don't let the past (or certain aspects of it) determine my understanding of everything.
This is what called a healthy debate. Both were very fluent & practical on their views. Agreements & disagreements handled decently. Although Rajdeep was bit annoying as he always been. When Shashi is there, there is something absolute quality talks . His delicacy attracts a lot. This man could be a good face from Congress for PM candidates (like Harsh mentioned). INC should recognise this fact.
@@Karthik-yy7gw that's cz he isn't a PM who puts his photo on everything that is done with Govt money / a CM who puts himself and PM in the poster for his express highways and not the minister in charge of roads...
Rajdeep mentioned about karnattaka how many times? Did he said once that we don’t need “sur tan se juda”. Why secularism is only applies to Hindu. Also Shashi Tharoor mentioned about that girl whose friend told her that they couldn’t play with her..why is that only Hindu fault..the actual event is sur tan se juda is scaring others..where is these teaching coming from?
Rajdeep is hypocrite. He will never ever talk about other faiths but will only go after Hindus ! These people do not recognise presence of Sar tan se juda types who do not obey law of land.
Rajdeep should remember he is a moderator and a anchor not an unofficial member of the opposition. Anyways Harsh is excellent in giving it back to Rajdeep.
Sir,I too share your feeling for our nation to shine.There is no other caste or religion in the world other than that followed by Bharat irrespective of language,caste & belief praying always for the peace in the world and to live with love and affection and render help to everyone Inspite of hate ,atrocities committed by people in the name of religion throughout the world.Jai hind.
Europe fought 2 World Wars in 20th Century, Millions died. Now they wise up, formed NATO for defence, Economic Union for trade. They are 5 to 10 times more prosperous. India is a sub-Continent like Europe, why Indians have to scarify their language, culture and history? If India is divided like Europe in to 20 countries, and have a defence and economic treaty, we can also prosperous like Europe. It will be a win-win situation for all and we will have more healthy relations!
@@madhureddy7643 people going their different ways is not going to give way to a defense treaty. Our realities are different. And why compare a "subcontinent" to a continent? Why not compare country to country? In the olden days you had kingdoms like Saxony and Prussia in Germany, but Germany gets talked about as Germany, then as now. Germany united after the fall of the Berlin Wall, but nobody says "there was no Germany before the fall of the Berlin Wall". Balkanizing India is a vile idea, and will only work as an incentive for the enemies surrounding us to swallow us whole. The only choice we have is to stick together.
Rajdeep sounds consistently excited as the muslim league and Congress representative, Tharoor accepting Harsh's points graciously, but with 'BUT'ing argument to please his Madame and Harsh , speaking for all of us, representing India in true sense. 👍
@@ankitapattanaik6059 not actually... Even if all bjp voters supported him.. That wud just be abt 35-40percent of country... And that doesnt make it majority opinion
@@hishamsaifudeen8000 I never voted for BJP, I don't like their economic policies but I agree with all of Harsh's points. Muslims need to understand, India has been partitioned on the basis of religion. This appeasement of muslims wouldn't have worked forever. It had to end someday. And the honeymoon period of appeasement is over. Muslims can't go on beheading people and expect us to still accept their victim card.
Harsh is simply outstanding when he countered Sardesai 's myopic views, pro congress bleatings and Tharoor's flashes of egoistic blabbering.. with staight face calling spade a spade at every point.Hope to see more like him who can really shape a better future for our Rashtra.
No doubt Harsh has got full support of the audience for his authentic argument calling for the unity of every caste religion residing in India.Jai hind
23:08 I am from UP and I would never want Hindi to be national language, its okay as an official language. It is not even the mother tongue of most people even in the so called Hindi belt. Its just a language of convenience otherwise, what's the use of it? Its not used in higher education, its not our ancient language or ceremonial language (Sanskrit), its not even used in conservation nowadays, see, you are debating in English, we are commenting here in English. And with advancement of technology, it has become so easier to communicate with different language people. People in Sikkim are enjoying a Telugu song, people in Gujarat are dancing on a Bengali song, and so many Indians are making reels on a Russian song. The language barrier is dissolving everyday.
Itne acche se sare points rakhe ke bad, hindi language ko offically declare karne ki bat par itna darne hichkichane kyu lagte h sab?.......are atleast ek link language hone chahiye ki nhi....hindi majority log bolte, sabse easily isi se link kar skte sabko, iss mamle me north me unity h, gujrati,orrisi,assami marathi,na jane kitne states h jinki apni official state language h phir b sab hindi ko lekar unite rhte h, modi ji khud b gujrati h phir b hindi promote kar rhe kisliye, thopna tab kaha jata jab vo gujrati tke liye kehte....lekin bhasa hi sabse asan are rapid cheez h jisse sabko ek kaha ja skta, unity in diversity, hindi sabki h.....hindi isliye kyuki hindi samaveshi type language h...isme kitne hi bhasho ke shabd he , kisi b language ke sath mila ke bol do.... south wala ke liye hindi utni hi tough jabtk vi accept ni kar re, bolna shuru kare Aram se bol lenge, par yahan north me sabko south ki language sikhani padegi proper sabko...jo padhe likhe vo to sikh le...bakiyon ka kya, aur janab pehli bat to south me ek language pe unity b nhi h....kaun si le Tamil, ki telgu, ki malyalam, ki kannad? Aur waise b....hindi ko chunne se tamil, telgu, malyalam, kannad ...insabka ego nhi hurt hoga....logon ka chahe hota h.... samriddh bhashayen h ye sab, jiski jo khasiyat h vo rhegi.....jisko jo language bolna h bole...koi kisko rok ra, english bolo , japani bolo, jo bol pao bolo.... official language hindi declare kar dene humko ek aur majboot pechan milegi ..jo ek poori common cheez hogi kanyakumari se kashmir tak...na ki koi basha ka astitva khatre me a jayega....na hi kisi annya...bhasha ki popularity kam hogi.....
@@DevnagriSanatan Hindi is not a majoritarian language. majority of india is non hindi speaking. and if you want BENGALI can be the national language(the linking language you are so worried about).... our national anthem is in bengali, national song is in bengali, most noble prize won by bengalis, most freedom fighters bengali.... TELUGU can also be the national language since it is the oldest language of India.... along with TAMIL! why only hindi out of nowhere!!! when majority doesn't even speak hindi 😆
@@07aniketdeysarkar26 apart from all this , why to choose hindi only, yahi to itna bada explain Kiya h...read again n please poora padhna! Modi Ji's mother tongue is gujrati, still he is promoting hindi... majority ki language kaise nhi h...agar poocha jaye ki india me sabse jyada log kaun si bhasha bolte h, ek choose karna ho to, sabse jyada log kya samjhte h? Aur acceptence kis language ko lekar h sabse jyda? Aap hi btaiye....aur north me to jiski jo bhi language h...but sabme hindi ko lekar acceptance h... south me....is mamle me unity nhi h ....4-5 states h major ..but une apne ke alva kisi ke liye acceptance nhi apas me hi ladh padte h
@@DevnagriSanatan 45% Indians speak hindi, 55% don't... So how is it a majoritarian language ? There is no "sabse zyada" in this regard. First try to learn Tamil, Telugu or Bengali, Malayali for that matter... Why should we learn your language and accept it as my national language.... I understand English also... So make it a national language shall we? ..... No.... Because many people don't know or are not comfortable with it... Talking of southern states, they speak their mother tounge and why do they have to speak hindi or agree with northern states? Why the north eastern languages won't be made national language? Why Bengali won't be made national language? If Hindi was the national language, non-Hindi speaking people would find it difficult to work with Hindi (in house/land deeds or official purposes or banking etc. etc.) Regional languages will lose their importance....
@@07aniketdeysarkar26 u are just dumb brother,that is the problem bro, yr arguments showing that u either didn't read what i wrote or didn't understood or just don't wanna understand! Who is imposing my brother hindi on u, or on any body else , choosing hindi doesn't mean that , from now on u have to do everything in Hindi only, n u r restricted to it...... everything remains same, but because it is easiest of all languages and ( because it has ability to coordinate with any language, we can speak hinglish n any other along with hindi, very flexible language it is) n 55% are non - hindi spekers means , Indian should have no official language??? But again if it come to choosing 45% people use it which is far higher than any other!! It's not to create any kind of choas but to link nation's citizens in one thread, which easily possible in Hindi only as it is most spoken, easily understood, by majority.... majority might not speaking it but, they understand Hindi very well (not all but mostly) . Why u hate so much with hindi, it is not going to , hit the pride of any other language but yes it's highly flexible to include all . And what do u think more easier would be? To just accept hindi, because if mostly people understand Hindi n it is from them only that much far till they start speaking,....or u just wanna all of us northern southern,east west people learn any language offered by u? Say bengalli?
@@jayadevmenon7086 periyer's sons are not hindu. Thier religion is thier language, they are claiming that every Tamil king in the past are not hindu, which is funny 🤣😂
Given his investment and finance background, Harsh Gupta Madhusudan indeed surprises the viewer with his incredibly vast knowledge of India's past as well as with his razor-sharp reasoning while contending for an edge over an erudite intellectual heavyweight like Shashi Tharoor. Many Hindu zealots feel that Tharoor is on the wrong side of partisan fence and one wonders if they are totally wrong. I admire Tharoor for speaking his mind fearlessly whatever the forum may be. Sometime back, when the Congress ruined the entire session of Lok Sabha by disrupting its proceedings, he told a reporter on being asked why he was not participating in slogan shouting: ‘I refuse to toe the party line as I believe that the parliament is a forum to express your opinions and attack the government’s policies logically through argument rather than disrupt its very function and proceedings for which it is meant’. By publishing his work Why I am a Hindu in 2018, he sent a clear message to the party bosses (the Gandhis) that he doesn’t believe in pseudo-secularism just to serve the purpose of vote bank. I am pleasantly surprised that Tharoor’s perspective on the prospects of Hindi in post-independence pan-India happens to reflect my views expressed by me in my paper Hindi and the Future Generations written for the Sixth World Hindi Conference jointly organized by Indian High Commission, the University London and York University in London in 1999. (I was then teaching Hindi in Indian School, Al Ghubra, Muscat. A colleague of mine and I were the only two participants from the Middle East at the conference,) I also agree with the perception of the participants that education ministry is the least priority ministry of the Union Government, which became amply clear the day Mrs. Smriti Irani was made the HRD minister. She may be a great orator, maybe even a great administrator, but this non-graduate alumna of the School of Open Learning (Delhi University) had not worked even for a day in the field of education--let alone being an academician--before straightway becoming the education minister of this country. I certainly don’t mean that her successors after her 2-year stint in the HRD ministry were significantly better or, for that matter, even most of her predecessors. Extremely sad!
China's gdp in 2005 2.285 trillions In 2010 6.08 trillions. In 2015 11.12 trillions . So after acquiring a critical mass in 2005 it doubled or more than doubled every 5 years.. Some pure maths no need to be an economist. India will also grow rapidly from now provided congress and AAP lose their prominence in next elections, because of they win they will paralyze india with strikes and disruptive activities
not taking sides but seems like your metric of electing governmentis is on the basis of ideologies rather than the work they are doing. as far as I can see AAP is doing good and so is bjp.
@@yashsonune4391 . At this stage just work is not important. Social security and freedom is important. Religious freedom does not mean just freedom of Muslims and Christians. Temples income is taken by govt. If someone does not believe in God it may be a small matter for them. But for people who donate to temples for doing good for hindus then it will matter if their money goes to Muslims. Hindus are feeling insecure for many reasons. Most criminals in jails are Muslims, not just in india but across world. . They dominate underworld harass Hindus. Many anti social elements come from muslim community. Hindus are also involved and they should be put in jail, as yogi is doing. Having said that ,I will also say all Muslims are not bad and all Hindus are not good. But percentages matter. People like owaisi insult hindu gods openly, but when someone like nupur states what is said in quran she has to face Sar tan se Juda. Who gave them right to do Sar tan se Juda. Indian Hindus feel insecure. Muslims in india don't respect law. Their loyalties lie with Arabs, though Arabs treat indian Muslims like their shit
Nehruvians are not used to dealing with sensible arguments. Look at Rajdeep and Shashi falling flat on their faces against the arguments put up by Harsh Gupta. Take a bow Mr. Madhusudan. 🙏🏻
yeah let's give up education, ethics and culture and become brutes. Instead of trying to educate the uneducated, let us the educated section give up our education and morality to become uneducated. that's what the bjp and hindutva stands for
@@07aniketdeysarkar26 you don't like hindutva. But continents converst to Christianity or Islam. We are just left in India. What happened to Jews, hindus in pak and bangla, outskirts of europe. They are not Christians , they get converted. Lithuanian is sanskri with different accent. We are last left, if hindutva will now not grow then bro hindus will be next Jews.
@@uniquespy3100 Extremist muslims are killing Hindus from outside. Hindutva will kill us from inside. Read Gita, learn about Swami Vivekananda, Sri Ramakrishna. I gurantee tears will roll down your eyes.... Bro Hindu dharm's basic principle is love, non violence and acceptance. We have to fight extremism but we must never endorse extremism. To counter Islamic extremism and Islamic terrorism we must not endorse Hindu terrorism and Hindu extremism. Pakistan and Bangladesh are examples that we shouldn't follow... In Pakistan and Bangladesh, Majority tortures the minority, but in India everybody lives happily and with equal dignity... That is the beauty and speciality of this country... Unity in diversity.... We must not become like Pakistan and Bangladesh
@@07aniketdeysarkar26 bro visit kerela where Muslims are there but they follow malyali culture sing and dance. But, now they are following strict arabian Islam because of their fundings, burkha, no go zones are formed in European countries where police can't even go to specific places. India is only place where Jews were never persecuted. This hindutva movement is necessary because it is reviewing traditional religions from all over the world, which are persecuted and converted to other. There are many islamic monument which has inscripted ki yaha kafiro ki Aur to ko 2-2 dinar me nilam kar diya. In northern indian, we have wedding at night. Why?? Because people were afraid that their beloved one were raped and send to bazaar for sell. Ye galatfahmi hai ki unhone convert karne ki khoshi nahi ki. Are pagal unhone puri duniya ko convert kardiya. Wo tumhare chacha lagte the kya jo tumpe vishesh kripa kari. Nahi they tried their best tortures and we fight back. . Arabs ka jab hamla hua tha logo ne broomstick se lada. I have no hatred. But their religious text mentioned hatred toward kafirs are worst of creatures, read quran, you will get your answers.
@@uniquespy3100 I know that. And I've already agreed to you totally except at one point. To counter their form of extremism, we shall not become like them. Radicals kill in name of Allah, will we start killing in name of Shiv? Does it make any sense? No! We habe to fight them but not become like them!! That is why Dr. Shashi Tharoor used the term "Hindu Pakistan".... I know you'll get me wrong, but he warned us about becoming the Hindu version of what Islamic radicals are doing in Pakistan!! I know you will not understand... But guess what? Neither will I 🙂
We all hail with great respect to Harish Gupta Madhusudan for his excellent positive thinking about our nation emphatically making his point authentically.
No one asked Harsh Gupta who destroyed Buddhism? It is Buddhists who have developed Ayurveda and astronomy and many students came from all over the world to study in Nalanda, Taxasila Buddhist universities. Aryabhatta who invented shunyam, Bhaskara invented zero, Sushruta who did the surgeries, Jeevaka who codified Ayurveda were all Buddhists. Ramayana and Mahabharata filled with silly or sex stories and Harsha quote them as Dharma. That is joke!
We need more debates like this. You don't even have to call someone out. Just by the way these gents talked everything became as clear as water. Thoroughly enjoyed it!!!
Majoritarian Country = Decomaracy, isn't it? Can we see Rajdeep retired, please? Also, this debate is nothing but a business model to generate TRP/Money for INDIA TODAY! Well, this is a good debate nonetheless and I am happy Harsh nailed it rightly to help Sashi to think about his retirement as well!
I recommend reading your sixth grade civics textbook again. Majoritarianism is domination, democracy is majority representation. If you do not see the difference, I truly feel bad for you. Did your parents not care to educate you? I finally present to you a sympathetic audience, tell me all about how you became the bigot that you are...
@@RajeshGhodke Good. I am not saying he is a good person, but I just felt pointing out that majoritarianism is what Nazi Germany was, it is what Pakistan is. Majoritarianism is NOT democracy. A democracy has limits, it grants rights to everyone. Hindu domination is a clear violation of preambular values of secularism.
After Vikram Sampath ,J Sai Deepak ,now Harsh Madhusudan ,Dr Tharoor lost third consecutive debate . There are very good non left intellectual but this ecosystem don’t give them platform otherwise they can burst lefts and secular hypocrisy each and every time
Correct, actually he puts his question from wrong person, he should ask these type questions from Owaisi or Rahul then he will get that answer what he wants.. Rajdeep the biggest hypocritic journalist
"Freedom is the first 5 minutes when I was born crying, naked, without name, without sin, without directions, without human hatred" "5 mins after my birth, they decide my name, nationality, religion & sect & I spend rest of my life *foolishly* defending something I didn't *choose* ." 😜
@@kasht427 Just a gentle reminder : "Enlightenment means you aren't easily driven to rage, you don't let people push your buttons and you don't use emotion as a tool to manipulate other people. It means you are not in the game for money or fame but for love and justice."
Pakistan was created by Nehru and approved by Gandhi on the demand of Muslims. But after pakistan was created partitioning India to create as a muslim contry muslims did not go there.Why ? This question should be the subject of discussion. Suddenly all those who demanded and got Pakistan within a night became LOVERS of Bharath .
Watching this for the second time. Harsh did NOT mince his words! 26:00 is an example. Harsh was clear, concise and also pure savage at times in this debate. Absolutely brilliant! Rajdeep also seemed to be more of a mediator than an ideologue in this debate compared to the Dr. Vikram Sampath vs Dr. Shashi Tharoor one.
It was a decent debate... I liked the point that Harsh made... My only criticism or rather a question would be 'Shouldn't the host supposed to be neutral or unbiased"
Harsh Madhusudan Rocks! Salutes to you Harsh for putting up the case of Hindus so strongly!! This channel might be afraid to call you in some other debate!!
Rajdeep thought shashi would be enough and tried to stay neutral, then when shashi was getting reamed he panicked and revealed his true colours as always 😂
You haven't read Tharoor. People who have read Tharoor know that he completely agrees with Harsha Gupta. Over here, he is representing his party which relies on apologetic religiosity. Tharoor in his books is raw and well articulated and doesn't shy away. He taunts the British, Pakistan and China for their actions and proudly speaks about the religious tolerance about Hindus.
44:00 Hindus banned Muslims from Garba because some Muslims came to Garba not to dance but to watch ladies dance breaking the decorum of the festival .
7:15 Savarkar said what he was seeing happening due to Hindu Muslim Riots happening at that time and they hesitating to live together . He didn't said what he wanted but what he saw happening .
It is interesting that none of them are talking about climate change which is going to be the googly. India like other major countries, is going to bear the brunt of severe climate changes, with cyclones, drought and floods causing significant economic destruction. I don’t know if they are taking that into account while talking about gdp growth etc etc 25 yrs down the road, there will be severe changes, in all countries, geographical and therefore economical
@@janeswan1124 keep living in La la land! Read about climate change, get educated before you challenge others. It is happening all over the world, droughts, floods, mega cities without water supply, forest fires, typhoons etc etc., but if it is your choice, keep your head in the sand.
@@lakshmisivasankar6830 thanks a ton, Tunberg ki didi!! 25 years is a bit too long to wait before mayday caller leftists like you argue for 'mom nature' all the while building new apartment blocks over canals and reservoirs, complain about diesel prices while jetsetting across the world and care a hoot about public transport before booking the new SUV; climate change isn't brought about by farts genius 😂
India’s strength is the diversity in faith, race and culture and if India want to shine just revive her ancient knowledges and wisdoms ! And secularism is the foundation to develop a modern, equitable and compassionate society….
Harsh is too good actually spokesperson material, not everyone can give it back to shashi. But why isnt harsh seen as often as JSD or anand ranganathan?
Hindu Inhabitants gave place to Parsis and Jews and to Chinese Scholars and so on to live until they come to terms with Hindu way of living in which anyone have freedom of religion
He is no different at his core, they all share the exact same flawed value system which cannot be cured or fixed. In fact Tharoor is more dangerous because he plays it so subtle that most people fail to notice.
@@xavior_india_0891 maybe true but he is definitely not as dumb and woke as typical congress members like Rahul Gandhi. We definitely need a good opposition as well and I would prefer someone like Shashi Tharoor to be that over Rahul Gandhi, Kharge, Mamata, Stalin kind of leaders.
@ArmanAditya Basu because he looks at Bharat and people of Bharat from a western view point.Which refuses to acknowledge Bharat's magnificent past before invasion by barbarians ,followers of desert cult
25:45 If Bjp would have been promoting only Hindi / Sanskrit then why would Modi address People of the state first in their mother tongue and then using the translator . Modi tries to connect to audience of Punjab , Maharashtra , Karnataka , Tamil Nadu , Assam , Gujarat , Rajasthan , etc equally well .
Unity in diversity , we are Union . It does’nt matter if the streams are big(majority) or small(minority) …. flow together and end as a big Ocean . Ocean is neither majority nor minority ,it’s Called Bharat(India)
The problem with the the secular model of governance is that the burden of secularism is entirely laid upon the Hindu majority while the peaceful religion choke us with their religious fanatacism... Let there be no doubt that if our culture and religion and gods are disrespected you can expect to be served the same ...give respect and take respect...it's as simple as this ! No longer you will find the majority being mute to the oppression that we met for the last 60 years!
This part , I very much agree with you.
On point. Fully agreed👍🚩🇮🇳
Well said!!!
Nicely spoken....👏
Well said ❤️
"IRRATIONAL Fear of Islam" is called Islamophobia!!
"RATIONAL Fear of Islam" is called COMMON SENSE!!
All of us have common sense.
Is fear must !
Why some one cannot be free of fear !
@@sujeetbastapure Because the world is run by radicals.
@ArmanAditya Basu Hindutvadis lack irrational fear? 🤔
@ArmanAditya Basu Out of curiosity, what makes you say that?
Harsh on fire. Missing him these days in main stream.
Secularism doesn’t make us secular, Hinduism make us secular. 🎉🎉
Rajdeep the moderator. Looks to lean Tharoor side, debate of BB Harshad was brilliant
He is! Because he is a leftist
Np he was just an asshole not trying him to speak.
The support Harsh got from the audience showed who has more facts 😅and that too in Rajdeep’s den 😅😅😅
😂😂 right! Looks like their proverb is working against them : "govt thumara hi ho..par system Hamara,"
It depends upon who is sitting in the audience.
@@umeshverma8705 they are all sardesai's invitees... it is his show he brings in those who are his friends... Gupta's points were so good that they had to clap - this sort of thing always happens when Tharoor debates with a better individual (more complete individual) than half baked like himself...watch his debate with Saideepak... he speaks the same ghisapita stuff about hindutva and his own tatva- which is so fake and at times very incorrect... the audience turned totally against him and even there he said something like what he says here about the audience being more in preference of Gupta's ideas... he is such a pretender
This guy Harsh is so articulate.. loved it
U r absolutely right Mr Kumar. Harsh was very straight forward, honest, clear cut abt a universal policy for manking.
Whereas Sashi as a politician was walking a thight political survival rope while treading along d fine grey lines to play his political gimmick.
Wassallam
A Hindu family who keeps away from a Muslim is self motivated. But a Muslim keeping away from non Muslims is a doctrine from d Holy Quran only.
Pls don't play politics yet again n generalising a minute issue scalled up. Very unbecoming of u Sashi.
Wassallam
If Krishna was a God, He cld hv stopped such a mammoth war which caused massive destruction n lost of lives.
Krishna broke d Laws of d War by deceitfully asking Arjuna to spear d unarmed Karna. U call that a deceitful act n a God will not promote unjust.
I don't know if Krishna was God or not, but Mahabaratha paints him a mortal man only. U can hear from Sadguru abt many issues.
Wassallam
@@navaratnamselvaduray2179 And What Is Your Source And Understanding About Mahabharata n Krishna...????
And Why Krishna Should Try To Stop The War....The War Was Necessary And The War Is Not For The Empire Etc...It Was For Dharma...And Dharma Is Not A Narrow Term..It's Ambit Is Very Large...
After So Much Injustices Krishna Asked To Duryodhana Just Give 5 Villages To Pandavas... Duryodhana Didn't Provide That..
So Pandavas And Krishna Tried To Avoid The War But The War Have To Happen...
And About Killing Of Karna...
Who Said You That Karna Was Unarmed Then..He Was On The Ground To Recover His Chariot's Wheel..But He Has His Wepons...On The Ground He Had Tried To Use Brahmastra But He Failed..
And Let Assume For A While That He Was Unarmed.. Okk The Same Karna Had Involved In Unfair Killing Of Abhimanyu So There Is No Wrong In Killing Him Unfairly...
@@navaratnamselvaduray2179 And About Ideology Etc..Of Hindu n Muslim Family...
It Doesn't Matter Hindu Family Who Keeps Away From A Muslim Is Self Motivated Etc..Or Not..
The Matter Is Hindus Don't Get Brainwashed And Kill People For The Reason That They Are From Other Religion Or They Defame Or Criticize The Hindu Religion Or Their Deities..Traditions Etc...
But Unfortunately The Muslims Are...
"Sar Tan Se Juda" Has Become The Tag Line....
So Accept The Fault Of Yours...
Muslims Have To Stop Themselves From Getting Brainwashed..They Have To Develop Their Own Conscience Then They Will Able To Understand What Is Wrong..What Is Right...Etc...
Now, I feel Harsh Gupta is a far better speaker than Hon’ble MP of Lok Sabha Shri Shashi Ji Tharoor Ji.
How is that ? How do you swallow all his incoherences ? This man has schizophrenic views ... and is on a different planet .
Why are you that dumb
@ANDH NAMAZI 72 HURRO WALA🤣😂 maybe you should leave communal hate and think like a human
Fluency, accent and flexibility in a language doesn't guarantee substance.
@@praveenhegde8107 And those are exactly the qilaities , people always attribute to Shashi in praising him, without judging any substance in his words or deeds.
Here for the first time he faced a person who has the expertise ( investment banking) as well as eloquence and wide world view.
So Shasi faded away in front of him.
We are Hindus and we are surprised when we are told that we are intolerant. We scratch our heads and think when we became intolerant to others. We sense some danger and consequently vote for BJP.
As long as rajdeep Sandestin anchors and Rahul leads congress then BJP will win
So true! Rajdeep a modi hater, sashi a modi hater. Modiji is flying high however!
🤪🤣🤣🤣🤣 good one
bjp jaii
I wish everyone was like you and felt bad on being called intolerant, because they themselves aren't. The majority don't, and are proud to be called intolerant. They are proud that they have kicked muslim families out of their neighbourhoods.
Agreed...
I also scratched my head when my muslim friend said your gods are rubbish. I was shocked because I had never spoke to him like that about his religion even I didn't even think about his religion that much we were friends. But after that day I maintained a distance with him.
Harsh is dropping Truth Bombs.
Nd what you are dropping? 😂
Bombs that only cause destruction by their myopic nature. Islamic extremism is unacceptable. But so is blithely ignoring the role of people like Khan Abdul Ghaffar Khan and Maulana Madani in opposing the partition. Mr Madhusudan has a peculiar understanding of cause and effect. The fact is that exlcusionary thinking was, and will continue to be, the root of division. Even if a small seed exists, exacerbating the issue and then expressing vindication is hardly a very compelling view.
@@MrPeaceGuy54 were they even following their religion or where they ex muslims
@@Clark510 They were not ex-muslims. Jamiat-Ulema-e-Hind, a prominent organization that was against the partition, was (and is) comprised of dedicated Muslims.
@@ankitSharma43825 facts
Harsh is delivering harsh truths nonstop (Pun intended). What an intellect. My respect 🙏
Harsh just nailed Rajdeep and Shahi. They were just stunned.
Nobody was "stunned". This was a friendly discourse in which the respectable individuals eloquently expressed their views (though I think that Dr Tharoor had a slight edge). I also liked that the dialogue ended on a positive note.
@@MrPeaceGuy54 Everbody has his own wisdom and the right to have his own opinion.
@@makaranddamle801 Agreed. I hope that you have a nice week ahead, sir! 🙏🇮🇳☮️☮️
@I P definitely there was a stunner as ilk like you who serve and mimic colonial masters expect no rebuttal , it qualifies to be a stunner.
@@rajareddy3104 I have spent a significant amount of time responding to apologists of the empire. It's just that I don't let the past (or certain aspects of it) determine my understanding of everything.
This is what called a healthy debate. Both were very fluent & practical on their views. Agreements & disagreements handled decently. Although Rajdeep was bit annoying as he always been.
When Shashi is there, there is something absolute quality talks . His delicacy attracts a lot. This man could be a good face from Congress for PM candidates (like Harsh mentioned). INC should recognise this fact.
Shashi Tharoor is all sweet in English, yet he doesn't have a popularity in rural India, tharoor I'd only known for digital world.
I came here to write here the same.
And then I saw your comment.
You saved my time 🕊️
@@Karthik-yy7gw that's cz he isn't a PM who puts his photo on everything that is done with Govt money / a CM who puts himself and PM in the poster for his express highways and not the minister in charge of roads...
he tried but lost to kharge oldie favourite.
@@Tweeting_data This proves that Congress is very much obsessed & concentrated within one family. (u know which family.... Right)
43:30 "It's the INC that has left India, India hasn't left the INC..."; EPIC!
Rajdeep mentioned about karnattaka how many times? Did he said once that we don’t need “sur tan se juda”. Why secularism is only applies to Hindu.
Also Shashi Tharoor mentioned about that girl whose friend told her that they couldn’t play with her..why is that only Hindu fault..the actual event is sur tan se juda is scaring others..where is these teaching coming from?
Shashi's friend's child can't play... Rajdeep finds potholes in Karnataka alone ... They've run out of valid arguments as always
Rajdeep is hypocrite.
He will never ever talk about other faiths but will only go after Hindus !
These people do not recognise presence of Sar tan se juda types who do not obey law of land.
@@janeswan1124
watch the debate again.. he said he found potholes in mumbai, karnataka and all parts of the country....
From the quran
"If you read the Quran, you are Muslim.
If you understand the Quran, you are Ex-Muslim!"
~~ CREATOR of Allah ~~
Absolutely right
True
😂
😂😂
Rajdeep should remember he is a moderator and a anchor not an unofficial member of the opposition. Anyways Harsh is excellent in giving it back to Rajdeep.
The bottom line of this whole discussion is implementing "Uniform Civil Code". 👍👍👍👍🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳
Actually as Mohan das pai said, rebrand it as “Woman equality act”…then it cannot be misconstrued!
Sai deepak, swamy,harsh and ranganathan...the gems of the new age India post 2k14...before which literally none from this species existed...
We will see more on this front going forward.(hopefully)
Add Vikram Sampath to the list
Also Swapan Das
@@RandomStuff47717 yes,
Annamalai dr rizwan ahmed
I am getting tears when I hear them talk 😀
All I want is my India to shine!!!
Sir,I too share your feeling for our nation to shine.There is no other caste or religion in the world other than that followed by Bharat irrespective of language,caste & belief praying always for the peace in the world and to live with love and affection and render help to everyone Inspite of hate ,atrocities committed by people in the name of religion throughout the world.Jai hind.
Can’t happen when vultures are circling. If you have a good memory about RSD, you’ll understand this.
Europe fought 2 World Wars in 20th Century, Millions died. Now they wise up, formed NATO for defence, Economic Union for trade. They are 5 to 10 times more prosperous. India is a sub-Continent like Europe, why Indians have to scarify their language, culture and history? If India is divided like Europe in to 20 countries, and have a defence and economic treaty, we can also prosperous like Europe. It will be a win-win situation for all and we will have more healthy relations!
@@madhureddy7643 india is sub-continent? It’s a ‘Rashtra’.
@@madhureddy7643 people going their different ways is not going to give way to a defense treaty. Our realities are different. And why compare a "subcontinent" to a continent? Why not compare country to country? In the olden days you had kingdoms like Saxony and Prussia in Germany, but Germany gets talked about as Germany, then as now. Germany united after the fall of the Berlin Wall, but nobody says "there was no Germany before the fall of the Berlin Wall". Balkanizing India is a vile idea, and will only work as an incentive for the enemies surrounding us to swallow us whole. The only choice we have is to stick together.
This Gupta chap is very informed. He should be in the ministry.
I'm confident that Dharma will prevail, more power to people like Harsh, Saideepak and Anand Ranganathan
Rajdeep sounds consistently excited as the muslim league and Congress representative, Tharoor accepting Harsh's points graciously, but with 'BUT'ing argument to please his Madame and Harsh , speaking for all of us, representing India in true sense. 👍
Harsh is not speaking for d masses bt for bjp only
@@KimKim-lq5lg Majority of the people agree with him.
@@ankitapattanaik6059 not actually... Even if all bjp voters supported him.. That wud just be abt 35-40percent of country... And that doesnt make it majority opinion
@@hishamsaifudeen8000 I never voted for BJP, I don't like their economic policies but I agree with all of Harsh's points. Muslims need to understand, India has been partitioned on the basis of religion. This appeasement of muslims wouldn't have worked forever. It had to end someday. And the honeymoon period of appeasement is over. Muslims can't go on beheading people and expect us to still accept their victim card.
@@KimKim-lq5lgMuslims will only disagree
Harsh is simply outstanding when he countered Sardesai 's myopic views, pro congress bleatings and Tharoor's flashes of egoistic blabbering.. with staight face calling spade a spade at every point.Hope to see more like him who can really shape a better future for our Rashtra.
Lol Harsh has to debate two Congressis simultaneously, Rajdeep is not even masking his bias here 😂
What a joker!
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE 2047 WITH OUT PAID JOURNALISTS LIKE RAJDEEP SARDESAI....
Bahut chul mach rahi hai
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
👍 😆
Hit the nail on the head 😂
Paytm par 2 rupay prapt hue😂😂 liberandu
No doubt Harsh has got full support of the audience for his authentic argument calling for the unity of every caste religion residing in India.Jai hind
India is changing, and pseudo secularism has no place now
Fantasy ! The very notion of caste defeats all argument in favour of liberalism , freedom and equality .
Equality amonst castes is an oxymoron .
myre
because of paid sanghis
@@rohanroy7872 Well, then, why did Mr. Tharoor and Mr. Sardesai found themselves unable to counter his arguments. Were they also paid sanghis??🤔🤔
23:08 I am from UP and I would never want Hindi to be national language, its okay as an official language. It is not even the mother tongue of most people even in the so called Hindi belt. Its just a language of convenience otherwise, what's the use of it? Its not used in higher education, its not our ancient language or ceremonial language (Sanskrit), its not even used in conservation nowadays, see, you are debating in English, we are commenting here in English. And with advancement of technology, it has become so easier to communicate with different language people. People in Sikkim are enjoying a Telugu song, people in Gujarat are dancing on a Bengali song, and so many Indians are making reels on a Russian song. The language barrier is dissolving everyday.
Itne acche se sare points rakhe ke bad, hindi language ko offically declare karne ki bat par itna darne hichkichane kyu lagte h sab?.......are atleast ek link language hone chahiye ki nhi....hindi majority log bolte, sabse easily isi se link kar skte sabko, iss mamle me north me unity h, gujrati,orrisi,assami marathi,na jane kitne states h jinki apni official state language h phir b sab hindi ko lekar unite rhte h, modi ji khud b gujrati h phir b hindi promote kar rhe kisliye, thopna tab kaha jata jab vo gujrati tke liye kehte....lekin bhasa hi sabse asan are rapid cheez h jisse sabko ek kaha ja skta, unity in diversity, hindi sabki h.....hindi isliye kyuki hindi samaveshi type language h...isme kitne hi bhasho ke shabd he , kisi b language ke sath mila ke bol do.... south wala ke liye hindi utni hi tough jabtk vi accept ni kar re, bolna shuru kare Aram se bol lenge, par yahan north me sabko south ki language sikhani padegi proper sabko...jo padhe likhe vo to sikh le...bakiyon ka kya, aur janab pehli bat to south me ek language pe unity b nhi h....kaun si le Tamil, ki telgu, ki malyalam, ki kannad? Aur waise b....hindi ko chunne se tamil, telgu, malyalam, kannad ...insabka ego nhi hurt hoga....logon ka chahe hota h.... samriddh bhashayen h ye sab, jiski jo khasiyat h vo rhegi.....jisko jo language bolna h bole...koi kisko rok ra, english bolo , japani bolo, jo bol pao bolo.... official language hindi declare kar dene humko ek aur majboot pechan milegi ..jo ek poori common cheez hogi kanyakumari se kashmir tak...na ki koi basha ka astitva khatre me a jayega....na hi kisi annya...bhasha ki popularity kam hogi.....
@@DevnagriSanatan
Hindi is not a majoritarian language.
majority of india is non hindi speaking.
and if you want BENGALI can be the national language(the linking language you are so worried about).... our national anthem is in bengali, national song is in bengali, most noble prize won by bengalis, most freedom fighters bengali....
TELUGU can also be the national language since it is the oldest language of India.... along with TAMIL!
why only hindi out of nowhere!!! when majority doesn't even speak hindi 😆
@@07aniketdeysarkar26 apart from all this , why to choose hindi only, yahi to itna bada explain Kiya h...read again n please poora padhna! Modi Ji's mother tongue is gujrati, still he is promoting hindi... majority ki language kaise nhi h...agar poocha jaye ki india me sabse jyada log kaun si bhasha bolte h, ek choose karna ho to, sabse jyada log kya samjhte h? Aur acceptence kis language ko lekar h sabse jyda? Aap hi btaiye....aur north me to jiski jo bhi language h...but sabme hindi ko lekar acceptance h... south me....is mamle me unity nhi h ....4-5 states h major ..but une apne ke alva kisi ke liye acceptance nhi apas me hi ladh padte h
@@DevnagriSanatan
45% Indians speak hindi, 55% don't... So how is it a majoritarian language ?
There is no "sabse zyada" in this regard.
First try to learn Tamil, Telugu or Bengali, Malayali for that matter... Why should we learn your language and accept it as my national language....
I understand English also... So make it a national language shall we? ..... No.... Because many people don't know or are not comfortable with it...
Talking of southern states, they speak their mother tounge and why do they have to speak hindi or agree with northern states? Why the north eastern languages won't be made national language?
Why Bengali won't be made national language?
If Hindi was the national language, non-Hindi speaking people would find it difficult to work with Hindi (in house/land deeds or official purposes or banking etc. etc.)
Regional languages will lose their importance....
@@07aniketdeysarkar26 u are just dumb brother,that is the problem bro, yr arguments showing that u either didn't read what i wrote or didn't understood or just don't wanna understand! Who is imposing my brother hindi on u, or on any body else , choosing hindi doesn't mean that , from now on u have to do everything in Hindi only, n u r restricted to it...... everything remains same, but because it is easiest of all languages and ( because it has ability to coordinate with any language, we can speak hinglish n any other along with hindi, very flexible language it is) n 55% are non - hindi spekers means , Indian should have no official language??? But again if it come to choosing 45% people use it which is far higher than any other!! It's not to create any kind of choas but to link nation's citizens in one thread, which easily possible in Hindi only as it is most spoken, easily understood, by majority.... majority might not speaking it but, they understand Hindi very well (not all but mostly) . Why u hate so much with hindi, it is not going to , hit the pride of any other language but yes it's highly flexible to include all . And what do u think more easier would be? To just accept hindi, because if mostly people understand Hindi n it is from them only that much far till they start speaking,....or u just wanna all of us northern southern,east west people learn any language offered by u? Say bengalli?
Never seen Shashi Taroor becomes speechless or wordless like this before
True brother
Bcs intellectualism is a part of Hinduism... That's why Muslim maulanas can't have a debate with scientific concepts.
He expects no rebuttal
Go and watch his debate with j sai deepak and subramanian swamy
Bai, when u have to speak and also have be true to your inner sense. This will happen.
Hindu Ghata, Desh Bata.. !
Where ever Hindu lost Majority, they demanded a separate state.. !
@ArmanAditya Basu afspa
Tamil Nadu had Hindu Majority when they demanded seperate state, Thiruvithankoor had Hindu Majority when they demanded the same.
@@jayadevmenon7086 periyer's sons are not hindu. Thier religion is thier language, they are claiming that every Tamil king in the past are not hindu, which is funny 🤣😂
Given his investment and finance background, Harsh Gupta Madhusudan indeed surprises the viewer with his incredibly vast knowledge of India's past as well as with his razor-sharp reasoning while contending for an edge over an erudite intellectual heavyweight like Shashi Tharoor. Many Hindu zealots feel that Tharoor is on the wrong side of partisan fence and one wonders if they are totally wrong. I admire Tharoor for speaking his mind fearlessly whatever the forum may be. Sometime back, when the Congress ruined the entire session of Lok Sabha by disrupting its proceedings, he told a reporter on being asked why he was not participating in slogan shouting: ‘I refuse to toe the party line as I believe that the parliament is a forum to express your opinions and attack the government’s policies logically through argument rather than disrupt its very function and proceedings for which it is meant’. By publishing his work Why I am a Hindu in 2018, he sent a clear message to the party bosses (the Gandhis) that he doesn’t believe in pseudo-secularism just to serve the purpose of vote bank. I am pleasantly surprised that Tharoor’s perspective on the prospects of Hindi in post-independence pan-India happens to reflect my views expressed by me in my paper Hindi and the Future Generations written for the Sixth World Hindi Conference jointly organized by Indian High Commission, the University London and York University in London in 1999. (I was then teaching Hindi in Indian School, Al Ghubra, Muscat. A colleague of mine and I were the only two participants from the Middle East at the conference,) I also agree with the perception of the participants that education ministry is the least priority ministry of the Union Government, which became amply clear the day Mrs. Smriti Irani was made the HRD minister. She may be a great orator, maybe even a great administrator, but this non-graduate alumna of the School of Open Learning (Delhi University) had not worked even for a day in the field of education--let alone being an academician--before straightway becoming the education minister of this country. I certainly don’t mean that her successors after her 2-year stint in the HRD ministry were significantly better or, for that matter, even most of her predecessors.
Extremely sad!
Still Mr. rajdeep talking non sense.. i appreciate youc comment here sir.....
Harsh Gupta Madhusudan was overpowering in his views and expression. He overshadowed the ageing Shashi Tharoor
Harsh Gupta awesome debate....
Sashi tharoor and rajdeep had no reply of his questions.
Harsh Gupta 🙏🙏 very nice, keep it up
Harsh Gupta so refreshing! lovely to listen to him
China's gdp in 2005 2.285 trillions
In 2010 6.08 trillions.
In 2015 11.12 trillions .
So after acquiring a critical mass in 2005 it doubled or more than doubled every 5 years..
Some pure maths no need to be an economist.
India will also grow rapidly from now provided congress and AAP lose their prominence in next elections, because of they win they will paralyze india with strikes and disruptive activities
not taking sides but seems like your metric of electing governmentis is on the basis of ideologies rather than the work they are doing. as far as I can see AAP is doing good and so is bjp.
@@yashsonune4391 .
At this stage just work is not important. Social security and freedom is important. Religious freedom does not mean just freedom of Muslims and Christians.
Temples income is taken by govt. If someone does not believe in God it may be a small matter for them. But for people who donate to temples for doing good for hindus then it will matter if their money goes to Muslims.
Hindus are feeling insecure for many reasons. Most criminals in jails are Muslims, not just in india but across world. . They dominate underworld harass Hindus. Many anti social elements come from muslim community. Hindus are also involved and they should be put in jail, as yogi is doing.
Having said that ,I will also say all Muslims are not bad and all Hindus are not good. But percentages matter.
People like owaisi insult hindu gods openly, but when someone like nupur states what is said in quran she has to face Sar tan se Juda. Who gave them right to do Sar tan se Juda.
Indian Hindus feel insecure. Muslims in india don't respect law. Their loyalties lie with Arabs, though Arabs treat indian Muslims like their shit
Absolutely true.
By 2029 india will be 8 trillion minimum.
By 2034 india will be 16 trillion.
Mark my words.
Nehruvians are not used to dealing with sensible arguments. Look at Rajdeep and Shashi falling flat on their faces against the arguments put up by Harsh Gupta. Take a bow Mr. Madhusudan. 🙏🏻
He might have sensible arguments if the person who agrees with them has some critical thinkinking..
Rajdeep, for once after a long time I did not get irritated with your show. You should hv more of these, with all sensible people.
Churchill is alleged to have said that...while Hindus sharpen their arguments the Muslims sharpen their swords
yeah let's give up education, ethics and culture and become brutes.
Instead of trying to educate the uneducated, let us the educated section give up our education and morality to become uneducated.
that's what the bjp and hindutva stands for
@@07aniketdeysarkar26 you don't like hindutva.
But continents converst to Christianity or Islam. We are just left in India.
What happened to Jews, hindus in pak and bangla, outskirts of europe.
They are not Christians , they get converted. Lithuanian is sanskri with different accent.
We are last left, if hindutva will now not grow then bro hindus will be next Jews.
@@uniquespy3100
Extremist muslims are killing Hindus from outside.
Hindutva will kill us from inside.
Read Gita, learn about Swami Vivekananda, Sri Ramakrishna.
I gurantee tears will roll down your eyes....
Bro Hindu dharm's basic principle is love, non violence and acceptance.
We have to fight extremism but we must never endorse extremism.
To counter Islamic extremism and Islamic terrorism we must not endorse Hindu terrorism and Hindu extremism.
Pakistan and Bangladesh are examples that we shouldn't follow... In Pakistan and Bangladesh, Majority tortures the minority, but in India everybody lives happily and with equal dignity...
That is the beauty and speciality of this country...
Unity in diversity.... We must not become like Pakistan and Bangladesh
@@07aniketdeysarkar26 bro visit kerela where Muslims are there but they follow malyali culture sing and dance.
But, now they are following strict arabian Islam because of their fundings, burkha, no go zones are formed in European countries where police can't even go to specific places.
India is only place where Jews were never persecuted.
This hindutva movement is necessary because it is reviewing traditional religions from all over the world, which are persecuted and converted to other.
There are many islamic monument which has inscripted ki yaha kafiro ki Aur to ko 2-2 dinar me nilam kar diya.
In northern indian, we have wedding at night. Why??
Because people were afraid that their beloved one were raped and send to bazaar for sell.
Ye galatfahmi hai ki unhone convert karne ki khoshi nahi ki.
Are pagal unhone puri duniya ko convert kardiya. Wo tumhare chacha lagte the kya jo tumpe vishesh kripa kari.
Nahi they tried their best tortures and we fight back. .
Arabs ka jab hamla hua tha logo ne broomstick se lada.
I have no hatred. But their religious text mentioned hatred toward kafirs are worst of creatures, read quran, you will get your answers.
@@uniquespy3100
I know that. And I've already agreed to you totally except at one point.
To counter their form of extremism, we shall not become like them.
Radicals kill in name of Allah, will we start killing in name of Shiv?
Does it make any sense? No!
We habe to fight them but not become like them!!
That is why Dr. Shashi Tharoor used the term "Hindu Pakistan"....
I know you'll get me wrong, but he warned us about becoming the Hindu version of what Islamic radicals are doing in Pakistan!!
I know you will not understand... But guess what? Neither will I 🙂
Harsha Gupta Madhusudan is an exceptional speaker and intellectual. Marvelous debate!
Why does Shashi not preach Secularism to his Muslim constituency ? He will be kicked out !
A beautiful discussion on the future of our great country.
Lol. In a country where sir tun se juda is a roadside chant Hindu Rastra is a necessity .
@ArmanAditya Basu sar tan se juda is equal to terror activity
@ArmanAditya Basu wake up to reality
We all hail with great respect to Harish Gupta Madhusudan for his excellent positive thinking about our nation emphatically making his point authentically.
No one asked Harsh Gupta who destroyed Buddhism? It is Buddhists who have developed Ayurveda and astronomy and many students came from all over the world to study in Nalanda, Taxasila Buddhist universities. Aryabhatta who invented shunyam, Bhaskara invented zero, Sushruta who did the surgeries, Jeevaka who codified Ayurveda were all Buddhists. Ramayana and Mahabharata filled with silly or sex stories and Harsha quote them as Dharma. That is joke!
@@madhureddy7643 Lol, rice bag
@@roman5782 keep clowning it's the only thing u can do well
we can't forget history, otherwise we will become one.
We need more debates like this. You don't even have to call someone out. Just by the way these gents talked everything became as clear as water. Thoroughly enjoyed it!!!
"Sar tan se juda" gangsters must be booked under IPC Section 506 Criminal Intimidation!
Harsh Gupta spoke well...Hearing him for first time..
Bravo Harsh Gupta Madhusudan 🙌🏽
Majoritarian Country = Decomaracy, isn't it? Can we see Rajdeep retired, please? Also, this debate is nothing but a business model to generate TRP/Money for INDIA TODAY! Well, this is a good debate nonetheless and I am happy Harsh nailed it rightly to help Sashi to think about his retirement as well!
I recommend reading your sixth grade civics textbook again. Majoritarianism is domination, democracy is majority representation. If you do not see the difference, I truly feel bad for you. Did your parents not care to educate you? I finally present to you a sympathetic audience, tell me all about how you became the bigot that you are...
@@orionaquila420 Thanks for showcasing your culture. Congratulations! Btw Rajeedp is about to announce his retirement this year.
@@RajeshGhodke Good. I am not saying he is a good person, but I just felt pointing out that majoritarianism is what Nazi Germany was, it is what Pakistan is. Majoritarianism is NOT democracy. A democracy has limits, it grants rights to everyone. Hindu domination is a clear violation of preambular values of secularism.
धर्मनिरपेक्ष,ये वाक्य ही गलत है,
पंथ निरपेक्ष,सही कहा हर्षा भाई🚩
Hindu terrorism new fear
After Vikram Sampath ,J Sai Deepak ,now Harsh Madhusudan ,Dr Tharoor lost third consecutive debate . There are very good non left intellectual but this ecosystem don’t give them platform otherwise they can burst lefts and secular hypocrisy each and every time
So well said.
Who won who lost depends upon what you think. It's subjective.
Great interjections by Harsh. Shashi was visibly surprised in the very first few minutes. His emptiness was all too visible.
Rajdeep often forgets he is a moderator. He starts debating and forces his point of view😂
Correct, actually he puts his question from wrong person, he should ask these type questions from Owaisi or Rahul then he will get that answer what he wants..
Rajdeep the biggest hypocritic journalist
From Korea to Israel, we were only successful democracy.
this must be reflected in why & what's the basic difference.
those who know they know.
Shashi Tharoor is wrong when he says Hindu rashtra is the agenda of the ruling class. It’s the ask of the majority Indians.
First Time I Listened to Harsh and I am very much impressed by his knowledge and facts.
This Harsh Gupta is terrific. He nailed both the hypocrites Desai and Tharoor.
"Freedom is the first 5 minutes when I was born crying, naked, without name, without sin, without directions, without human hatred"
"5 mins after my birth, they decide my name, nationality, religion & sect & I spend rest of my life *foolishly* defending something I didn't *choose* ." 😜
Well said!!! This should be pasted in the hall of fame. True words of wisdom.
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You chose to write this. Apparently you are not as enslaved as you just made yourself out to be 😀
@@kasht427 Just a gentle reminder :
"Enlightenment means you aren't easily driven to rage, you don't let people push your buttons and you don't use emotion as a tool to manipulate other people. It means you are not in the game for money or fame but for love and justice."
@@kasht427 “A proud faith is as much a contradiction as a humble devil.” 🤔
Pakistan was created by Nehru and approved by Gandhi on the demand of Muslims. But after pakistan was created partitioning India to create as a muslim contry muslims did not go there.Why ? This question should be the subject of discussion. Suddenly all those who demanded and got Pakistan within a night became LOVERS of Bharath .
This is called healthy debate.
Watching this for the second time. Harsh did NOT mince his words! 26:00 is an example. Harsh was clear, concise and also pure savage at times in this debate. Absolutely brilliant!
Rajdeep also seemed to be more of a mediator than an ideologue in this debate compared to the Dr. Vikram Sampath vs Dr. Shashi Tharoor one.
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It was a decent debate... I liked the point that Harsh made... My only criticism or rather a question would be 'Shouldn't the host supposed to be neutral or unbiased"
if host is Rajdeep then you have a very wrong expectation
I also agree with harsh brother
HONESTLY I HAVEN'T SEEN THIS MUCH OF LOGICAL DEBATE FOR SO LONG ......................COMMENDABLE
Harsh Madhusan Gupta single handedly nailed both of them with facts.
Harsh Madhusudan Rocks! Salutes to you Harsh for putting up the case of Hindus so strongly!! This channel might be afraid to call you in some other debate!!
Rajdeep spoke more than both of his guest combined ....😁
Rajdeep thought shashi would be enough and tried to stay neutral, then when shashi was getting reamed he panicked and revealed his true colours as always 😂
It is far better to be Flawed and be Yourself than be Perfect and Imitate someone else.
Harsha Gupta 👌
Shashi Tharoor 👌
Rajdeep 👎
Shashi lost it with no battle, he is searching for words. He is just aged not experienced...
You haven't read Tharoor. People who have read Tharoor know that he completely agrees with Harsha Gupta. Over here, he is representing his party which relies on apologetic religiosity.
Tharoor in his books is raw and well articulated and doesn't shy away. He taunts the British, Pakistan and China for their actions and proudly speaks about the religious tolerance about Hindus.
What a quality debate...hats off👍🏻👍🏻
Stop being tolerant of Intolerant people. Good line.
Shashi is acknowledging the intellectuality of Harsh....
Hindu Rshtra eclusively - no debates no arguments . Good job Harsh.
44:00 Hindus banned Muslims from Garba because some Muslims came to Garba not to dance but to watch ladies dance breaking the decorum of the festival .
Shashi Tharoor lacks scholarship. Proved by J Sai Deepak. How long is his English going to carry him ???
22:33 A very Serious topic..
As Marathi and southern sate I agree with Shashi..!
8:49 RSD says Pakistan became Islamic Republic but India didn’t. RSD spent his career trying to make India an Islamic Republic.
7:15 Savarkar said what he was seeing happening due to Hindu Muslim Riots happening at that time and they hesitating to live together . He didn't said what he wanted but what he saw happening .
We want debates like this.
Saw some good debate after so long.
Huge Respect for Harsh Madhusudan!!!
Harsh Gupta ..just awesome yaar
It is interesting that none of them are talking about climate change which is going to be the googly. India like other major countries, is going to bear the brunt of severe climate changes, with cyclones, drought and floods causing significant economic destruction. I don’t know if they are taking that into account while talking about gdp growth etc etc
25 yrs down the road, there will be severe changes, in all countries, geographical and therefore economical
...so says Tunberg's didi
@@janeswan1124 keep living in La la land! Read about climate change, get educated before you challenge others. It is happening all over the world, droughts, floods, mega cities without water supply, forest fires, typhoons etc etc., but if it is your choice, keep your head in the sand.
@@lakshmisivasankar6830 thanks a ton, Tunberg ki didi!! 25 years is a bit too long to wait before mayday caller leftists like you argue for 'mom nature' all the while building new apartment blocks over canals and reservoirs, complain about diesel prices while jetsetting across the world and care a hoot about public transport before booking the new SUV; climate change isn't brought about by farts genius 😂
@@lakshmisivasankar6830 oh I forgot... Welcome to my la la land !
India’s strength is the diversity in faith, race and culture and if India want to shine just revive her ancient knowledges and wisdoms ! And secularism is the foundation to develop a modern, equitable and compassionate society….
Harsh is too good actually spokesperson material, not everyone can give it back to shashi.
But why isnt harsh seen as often as JSD or anand ranganathan?
🤣🤣🤣🤣30:07 India also did not starts in 1947 what it seems like when u listen Nehrueans🤣Harsh's reply to Rajdeep 🤭
Hindu Inhabitants gave place to Parsis and Jews and to Chinese Scholars and so on to live until they come to terms with Hindu way of living in which anyone have freedom of religion
Tippu was a terror on Hindus but rajdeep never accepts it...
Harsh Gupta literally toyed with Mr. Shashi Tharoor, I respect Shashi Tharoor though, he is definitely not a typical Congress's woke batch.
He is no different at his core, they all share the exact same flawed value system which cannot be cured or fixed. In fact Tharoor is more dangerous because he plays it so subtle that most people fail to notice.
@@xavior_india_0891 maybe true but he is definitely not as dumb and woke as typical congress members like Rahul Gandhi.
We definitely need a good opposition as well and I would prefer someone like Shashi Tharoor to be that over Rahul Gandhi, Kharge, Mamata, Stalin kind of leaders.
Tharoor is given way much credit by media than he deserves.He is so much full of himself.
@ArmanAditya Basu because he looks at Bharat and people of Bharat from a western view point.Which refuses to acknowledge Bharat's magnificent past before invasion by barbarians ,followers of desert cult
damn,rewatching this 1 year later......Bangalore-mysore highwat is just way to gooodddd
Sushhi Thoorur tell me one secular Islamic nation?
25:45 If Bjp would have been promoting only Hindi / Sanskrit then why would Modi address People of the state first in their mother tongue and then using the translator . Modi tries to connect to audience of Punjab , Maharashtra , Karnataka , Tamil Nadu , Assam , Gujarat , Rajasthan , etc equally well .
Harsh gupta silenced Shashi with his logic n truth..😀👌👌
22.10 rajdeep bang on... Biggest concern for half of the population in india! BJP needs to address this!
Unity in diversity , we are Union . It does’nt matter if the streams are big(majority) or small(minority) …. flow together and end as a big Ocean . Ocean is neither majority nor minority ,it’s Called Bharat(India)
26:50 An Excellent point
It's nice to see Sashi struggling
Have you got a Hindu friend who married a Muslim girl?
21:10 khud kaise sare aam moorkh ban jau, lekin party ke hisab se bhi chalna🤣🤣🤣shashi in dilemma
finally some peaceful and informative debate...