Wheelie said he wants to sell me that T3002 I asked about months ago for a discounted rate? Hell yess! Because I actually need it now. NEED… not want. I need all it’s smooth silver and black glory in my Mitsubishi build.😶🌫️👀for real… 275$… and you’ll have it in Venmo account in less than 2 weeks. Kids be expensive and stuff.
Not to mention… that t3002 class AB would pair perfectly with the direction I’m going… if that’s too low let’s meet in the middle somewhere… I really want it Big D. Pleaseeeee🥺 Williston Audio Labs!!! I can even throw in 200 7.2V batteries plus 275$ for the amp, because these Israeli battery packs are taking up way too much space. They’re 80% all still at over 7.2-7.4V… maybe you could find something cool to do with them?
I love these comparison videos, I am budget conscious and you know us bassheads are always looking to change stuff up. So this gives us a guide to start from.
I have several of the old Boston amps made by Mosconi and I absolutely love them! I have 2 GT 42s and one GT-50. Bought all 3 on ebay not working. When people test them on a bench they give them power and remote at the same time which throws them into protection. All 3 worked perfectly once hooked up correctly.
I think the best sq amplifier for under 500 is the JL Audio JD1000/1 for the dampening factor which is a real thing when it comes to sq. It has a built in hi lo converter and only requires one speaker lead as it is a mono amp. In addition it has its own clipping indicator as well. It cost 399.99+ tax. Pair it with a set of efficient subs and you got yourself some serious slap, trust me I got the 250/1 with some old school Pioneers with a 97db per watt efficiency and it plays superb with any kind of music. Granted you can get a whole system for the price of the amp but that isn’t the point of this post or this video and also it is more powerful than any you listed.
Great video! Love the SQ perspective! Was hoping to find a video of best SQ head units?! If you make a video like that, people will watch it :) I see a lot of head unit videos that only mention features and neglect how they sound?? For me, the quality of sound is first in importance. Thanks again!
You know what wierd is it seem people are not always but mostly lumped into 2 categories "spl" or "sq" but quite a few like thump and SQ, I for one have 2 AB XR15s (which are American Bass's more SQ focused performance sub) on a 5k, but I also have silver flute 6.5" woofers and Dayton 4" reference mids and Dayton amt tweeters on a 408 dsp through 2 afordable A/B 4 channels (one bridged), it's not a high end front stage by any means but it's decent budget components, and when I want to listen to good sounding music, and with my abused 49 yo ears it's as good as I need, I just keep the subs down to a lower rich full bass and cruise. I love to rattle the panels but at times I love to listen to some nice sounding music. One thing some people don't think of is you can have high end equipment like utopia components, mosconi amps, helix dsp ect ect but if you streaming highly compressed music it's gonna sound like crap still. I notice it even on my system.
@@95Sn95 I feel you... I used to be all spl ...i was one of those guys who wanted nothing but big 18 inch subs and 5k amp but i eventually fell in love with how SQ sounds and builds were like so I started with a DSP (zapco dsp z6) and learned how to use REW.... when I finally heard how much of a difference it made I decided to jump all in SQ so, I down graded my subs to first a single 15 American Bass XFL to 2 Arc Audio ARC D12s to now I have a single Audiofrog gs12d2 in a sealed box ...my amps went from CtSounds, Skar Audio, zapco st line to now I run a ZAPCO Z150.6AP and a ZAPCO Z1KD mono amp...upfront I am running kenwood excelon XR-1603HR and a cdt audio pods for mids ..but I'm taking out the kenwood for all cdt.audio.... my dsp went from a zapco dsp z6 to dsp z8iv to dsp z8iv ii to now a helix dsp.3.... I learned how to build my own rca...my HU is a Atoto S8 PRO with Optical output to my DSP (NO RCA'S).... I STILL BUMP FROM TIME TO TIME but my 41 year old.ass is losing my hearing as well so I try to keep it not too loud
Good list, I'd like to add 2 more to it though. New us accoustics are amazingly clear! And the db drive euphoria have to really be considered. Me personally I'd hold out on buying a new sq amp until the sony mobile es are rereleased, but that's me
I don't have any "SQ" amps but I can say I've discovered running slot of headroom improves sound exponentially, I had a pioneer 9701 on it my xr 15s then I upped to a AP 1800 sound increased alot even at low volumes I moved to cab45 once again same deal way fuller, my 9701 had made it to my car with a custom 10" it's a solid 1000w sub when I bought the cab for my van I put the AP 1800 in my car replacing the gm 9701 wow what a difference! It sounds killer now. Now the 9701 going in my truck replacing a toro r2 Haven't tried that out it will prob kill the little skar ix10 tho... Prob should keep the r2 in there if I want the kill skar to live.
yo yo, this video sold me on Arc. I had the xdi650.1 in my ride at the time. I was disappointed with the 500 @2ohm from a Fosgate amp. I tried upgrading power, but the 350 sounded better than the 500 RF amp.
I would have to say the US Acoustics "Mike" at $299 could be a great addition to this list. Big D already did a dyno run on it and it's built like a tank but sounds fantastic!!
My suggestions are: Hertz HCP 1DK - small, efficient, powerful. 24 db x-over slope and phase adjustment are nice features Rockford Fosgate P1000x2 - great sounding versatile amp with 1000 watts of class AB goodness
The audison AP1D is really made to be paired with the one of the AP bit amps, it only has a 3 settings sensibility switch, and no crossover at all, you would have a hard time setting it up without a DSP
Both Sony XM GS100 and the XM GS4 are excellent budget options for SQ! The XM GS4 is HiRes certified as well. XM GS100 is a more quiet amp but geared towards SQ.
Zapco has a class D SQ amp. It's 180x4 and close to 1200 rms total and has Bluetooth. I have 2 of them. I Also have high end Audison amps several Zapco AB amps, several other brands of SQ amps like Hertz, for example. For the power and money and SQ those zapco class D amps are no joke. Zapco-204D-BT. I think they were around $420 when I bought mine but that was before covid. Since then prices have increases a lot.
HEADS DOWN I have all Alpine from deck to mids/highs aka V-power MRP 4ch/1ch with CDA-9811 with the built in time alignment setup as well OLD SCHOOL SQ SUBS 3 SWR-1041D
Audio dynamics make great products they are in the sound quality world i have a all audio dynamics system and people are so shocked at how good the speakers are and the subs a nice as well
Yeah I'm with you HiFi I still love kicker they were my first two systems... Awww, a moment of silence and remembrance to honor the legend of kicker that was Steve irbys brain child...
I feel like that kicker is probably the best of your picks for what you get :) but I would have liked to see the fosgate R2 on that list, fosgate for life!
I have tried to find a better amp for the money, but I can't give up my Kicker KXA amps. At 1ohm, they are listed at "+ or - 10%" of the 2-ohm RMS rating, but they definitely put out more power when you run them at 1 ohm. I have the sub channel of a KXA800.5 and a KXA400.1 wired on each coil of a DVC sub rated at 1000 watts and with the gains matched I get 400 "+ or - 10%" W RMS on each coil, perfectly matched with the gain setup, plus the wireless bass knob is linked to both sub channels and controls both at the same time without any issues. Kicker put a lot of value in those amps, AND they sound great too.
As always… thank you for your dedication and time you put into this. I may joke around sometimes… but I was looking forward to buying you a few beers at Kfest! 😔nothing but respect audio-brethren! Keep up the great content. Love seeing you grow and expand, as well as your audience base. I hope it starts really paying off financially so you could work less hours at your regular job, I’m sure it’s only a matter of time brother! ✌️
Great video👍If i were building a sq system in say Momas car It would be a Rockford T-500 for lows and a T-400 for mids & highs. The T series are beutiful amps too.
I’m trying to get wheelie to sell me his T3002 as we speak, I miss mine. So so much, keeping fingers crossed, I bet I can pull a 150 dB with it in my Mitsubishi… I’ve already pulled a 146.8 with the t3002 and 2 Memphis subs in a 94 accord. I just know I can pull a 150 out of it with my car that is literally the best designed car for audio that I’ve owned. Maybe he’ll show me a little ❤️
@@BericBuilds I'm thinking really hard about swappin out my prime 1200 with a T-1000 the T series is way under rated they'll do double power dynamic at 1 ohm.
@@edud8452 do it!!! I’ve installed every single silver old school T series from 2000s, from the 3002-to multiple t4000’s…and multiple of most, I always made it a point to show the customer Fosgates birth sheet, not only as a selling point, but as proof of the quality of product matching the quality of install… and EVERY SINGLE AMP that I opened back then came with way more than it’s rating on box… some were even multiple hundreds of watts difference and in my opinion that should be what any successful amp company should strive for. When a electronic device can’t even meet the ratings it’s sold as… then how can that be a good investment with as many companies that out there competing for your money and time. RF was my juice back at Sound Advice USA… RF/JL/Alpine and Memphis. Then we got rid of RF and Memphis, picked up focal/mosconi. I have not had much play time with the newer T series stuff, and only got to install a couple T1’s and T2’s. Still want to put hands on a T3.
I got a kicker kxa 800.. got it in a bundle from offerup.. after selling the sub I bought my final cost.. $15 for the amp! Only problem is I don't have the remote.. and they are NOT for sale anywhere..
How about full bridge amp compression. I myself have a sundown sfb1000 and a b2 audio riot1200. I can say there are huge differences in sound and power between the two.
I’d love to, but I just don’t have enough personal experience with a lot of different full bridge amps yet. As I get more experience with them I will definitely consider it.
@@HifiVega these are my first two the b2 audio plays every frequency between low 20 and up with precision, the sfb wil kinda get a little muddy in the low 20s and gets better as the frequency comes up. On the other hand the b2 is a 1200rms amp that I've clamped 971 watts on my sfb1000 I clamped 1,267 watts on
Rockford Fosgate Power T600.4 (Bridged, 300 x 2) - 85 dB, MTX Thunder 75.4 (200 x 2) - 78 dB, JVC KS-DR300.4 (180 x 2) - 80dB, Focal AP-4340 (190 x 2) - 76 dB These all are for 5 1/4 component system (85.9 - 89 dB) with a single 10" sub (84.45 - 86.5 dB) in a sealed box, and HU (105 dB or 4V preamps). Good, clean, ground-shaking, SQ no sound deadening! Volume on 1, sounds like 30 or 40. 🤣 Oh, I forgot, flat EQ no bass-boost or loudness, and amp Hz set at 500 for loud, solid bass! You guys are maniacs with 5-amp set-ups!!
Looking for a 1,500 to a 2,000 watt sub amp for my truck. I have a RF t750bd now and jl Vxi 600/6 on my minds and highs now. I would like the kicker kxa 1,600.1 but I don’t know if I want to buy a refurbished amp. Any suggestions?
all are new school i like more the old school of all time amps for sq zapco c2k series zapco studio mcintosh amps soundstream reference series orion reference 90's us amps ppi pc ppi art series and much much more nice video bro
Everytime i buy kicket kx amp or even a L5. Hifis product will cum durable but a kx 600.1 refurbished sounded like 50 watts vs kx400.1 from best buy. This was like 16 years ago. Hell i even ordered KX 1200.1 only bcuz it said NEW so what arrives? A kicker SX1250.1 it was all digital n i barely new ohms but kicker made it good enough to where it would last atleast a year before it said SERVICE on the screen. Had it on 2 12 L7 2004 model i guess. Honestly the last great solobaric made trust me i go threw em like butter.
@@HifiVega I have 3 x st 4 sq and the 1350 at 1ohm for my sub in my SQ build, i thought it would be within the price range (i am in the uk and thought it to be very cheap), love your videos by the way, keep it up
@@markjackson5247 I think it’s within the price range. I’ve heard some great systems with the new Zapco amps, but I always feel like it’s because of the person doing the work and tuning more than the amps themselves lol. I guess that could be said about any piece of equipment tho
@@HifiVega installation and tuning is what makes a system, I have been lucky enough to have peter from ps sound do my tuning( he does a lot with IB) so I couldn’t agree more.
I realize class d has come a very long way, but I’m shocked that you only had one true sq amp here in the Gladen class a/b. Are there just so few a/b options out there right now?
I STILL HAVE MY OLD SCHOOL 2 ESX Q175.2 ... ..I WILL NEVER SELL MY BAD BOYS...ABOUT 2 YRS AGO I PICK UP ARC AUDIO X2 2500.1 LET ME TELL YOU IT'S A MONSTER 6-40 AMP TOTAL 240 VERY CLEAN POWER ....PAYED $1300.00
Running front stage Alpine X-series 6x9 components and rear Alpine R-series 6.5. Haven't decided on sub size and how many yet for under rear seat....any ideas????
I just don't see how the arc audio is above the kicker kicker has the better features it's cheaper it's going to have more output and a better bass knob The Arc is just plain
@@HifiVega that's fair. I brought them up because Zapco is found in sq champions list every single year going way back to now, but I'm seeing more arc and hybrid audio lately last few years. Hope Zapco not changing, selling out, or falling off the block. I've used most of their older stuff not newer lately. Good Vid though Vega, SQ gets put aside alot, but I guess spl is where the big sales money is, lol. Thanks again
@@HifiVega but hey I agree with your list, not knocking you in any way. good work on that! I don't disagree with any of it, good research and thanks for sharing with us. 😁
No way are any of those amps comparable with the audio control. SQ wise anyways . It's all about signal to noise ratio (distortion) except for the gladen.
Eh don't want to troll or bitch or something but, sound quality really isn't that important when it comes to sub amps...the only real statistics that needs be "good" is the damping factor and the power output...
Dampening factor isn’t really even a factor in today’s amps, but a quality pre amp and better output filters do make a difference and if you notice I didn’t list an amp over 1500 watts
@@HifiVega I am more like, the pre amp is in the radio/processor...And the only thing i want a sub amp to do is control the woofer..And play between 10 hz and maybe 100 hz...And with 400 watts at 4ohm a decent party can be had..
@@HifiVega And the Gladen amp is surely the best amp on this list...I had the x-ion 275.2 or something like that...that was a beast..also the subs are awesome..
The damping factor is really an underappreciated subjective ACID test for sub amps. Why? Watch how clean the amp sounds especially when subjected to larger diameter subs in ported Configuration. Most amps will need fall short in how cleanly Large diameter subs are " controlled"
There are less than 5 true class a amps available in car audio at this moment and you need to look at the SQ winners equipment… How many multiple time champions are running class ab?
@@HifiVega you mean class D on highs and mids? Cuz D on subs i have no problem at all, but anything else not good enough for me! If you like how they sound more power to you bro!
Yeah, he's raving about all the DSP functions, which are only useful for masking your bad sub. If done right, you shouldn't need to tweak, at least for true SQ.
@@drumsmoker731 I can’t disagree more with you. The car is probably the worst environment for proper music setup. Basically you need tons of dsp to make it sound right!
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Gotta stick around till da end! Mo content FTW! Nice list of gain blocks yo 👌
I learned from the best!
Wheelie said he wants to sell me that T3002 I asked about months ago for a discounted rate? Hell yess! Because I actually need it now. NEED… not want. I need all it’s smooth silver and black glory in my Mitsubishi build.😶🌫️👀for real… 275$… and you’ll have it in Venmo account in less than 2 weeks. Kids be expensive and stuff.
Not to mention… that t3002 class AB would pair perfectly with the direction I’m going… if that’s too low let’s meet in the middle somewhere… I really want it Big D. Pleaseeeee🥺 Williston Audio Labs!!! I can even throw in 200 7.2V batteries plus 275$ for the amp, because these Israeli battery packs are taking up way too much space. They’re 80% all still at over 7.2-7.4V… maybe you could find something cool to do with them?
I have an unopened zed audio Mikro 1, have you ever heard or seen one?
@@StopTargetingOurKids I have not. I’ve heard of Zeds Dead… but that’s completely unrelated
I love these comparison videos, I am budget conscious and you know us bassheads are always looking to change stuff up. So this gives us a guide to start from.
Really good list and video. It's refreshing to learn about some amps geared towards sound quality and not just spl. Keep up the good content bro!
Thanks for watching!
Loved the live last night! Thanks for the top 5 Vega
Thanks for watching bro
Finally a list that isn't complete BS. I can agree with every single choice. Good List Vega, good list..
Nice to see arc in the line love my arc xdi 1000.1 and arc xdi80.4
Great video HiFi!
Thanks Kip!
I have several of the old Boston amps made by Mosconi and I absolutely love them! I have 2 GT 42s and one GT-50. Bought all 3 on ebay not working. When people test them on a bench they give them power and remote at the same time which throws them into protection. All 3 worked perfectly once hooked up correctly.
I have the 5 channel version of the italian boston acoustic amp ,its a keeper
@@diawaprolite7967 They are awesome amps, only downside is the size. Being class A/B they are huge lol
@@theinsaneunknown i actually have a gt50 mines is made in italy but some others are made in Malaysia.
Nice stuff here boy and love the extra at the end
Yessir!
Great video hifi
Thank you!
perfect list
I think the best sq amplifier for under 500 is the JL Audio JD1000/1 for the dampening factor which is a real thing when it comes to sq. It has a built in hi lo converter and only requires one speaker lead as it is a mono amp. In addition it has its own clipping indicator as well. It cost 399.99+ tax. Pair it with a set of efficient subs and you got yourself some serious slap, trust me I got the 250/1 with some old school Pioneers with a 97db per watt efficiency and it plays superb with any kind of music. Granted you can get a whole system for the price of the amp but that isn’t the point of this post or this video and also it is more powerful than any you listed.
Great video!!! Thank you!!!
Thanks for watching
Great video!
Love the SQ perspective!
Was hoping to find a video of best SQ head units?!
If you make a video like that, people will watch it :)
I see a lot of head unit videos that only mention features and neglect how they sound??
For me, the quality of sound is first in importance.
Thanks again!
Kenwood and Alpine have always served me well. Pioneer is usually very good too, but I haven’t heard any of their new units.
I thought D'amore would've made the list forsure.. im rockin a Concept HA-704 and a Concept CA-525m and I love the quality they put out.
Nice comparison. I have the 6 channel Gladin, unused. Don't know personally how they sound but it is a Beaut
They sound 👌🏼
THANK YOU SO MUCH HIFI VEGA FOR THIS LIST.... FINALLY A LIST FOR US SQ GUYS
You know what wierd is it seem people are not always but mostly lumped into 2 categories "spl" or "sq" but quite a few like thump and SQ, I for one have 2 AB XR15s (which are American Bass's more SQ focused performance sub) on a 5k, but I also have silver flute 6.5" woofers and Dayton 4" reference mids and Dayton amt tweeters on a 408 dsp through 2 afordable A/B 4 channels (one bridged), it's not a high end front stage by any means but it's decent budget components, and when I want to listen to good sounding music, and with my abused 49 yo ears it's as good as I need, I just keep the subs down to a lower rich full bass and cruise. I love to rattle the panels but at times I love to listen to some nice sounding music. One thing some people don't think of is you can have high end equipment like utopia components, mosconi amps, helix dsp ect ect but if you streaming highly compressed music it's gonna sound like crap still. I notice it even on my system.
@@95Sn95 I feel you... I used to be all spl ...i was one of those guys who wanted nothing but big 18 inch subs and 5k amp but i eventually fell in love with how SQ sounds and builds were like so I started with a DSP (zapco dsp z6) and learned how to use REW.... when I finally heard how much of a difference it made I decided to jump all in SQ so, I down graded my subs to first a single 15 American Bass XFL to 2 Arc Audio ARC D12s to now I have a single Audiofrog gs12d2 in a sealed box ...my amps went from CtSounds, Skar Audio, zapco st line to now I run a ZAPCO Z150.6AP and a ZAPCO Z1KD mono amp...upfront I am running kenwood excelon XR-1603HR and a cdt audio pods for mids ..but I'm taking out the kenwood for all cdt.audio.... my dsp went from a zapco dsp z6 to dsp z8iv to dsp z8iv ii to now a helix dsp.3.... I learned how to build my own rca...my HU is a Atoto S8 PRO with Optical output to my DSP (NO RCA'S).... I STILL BUMP FROM TIME TO TIME but my 41 year old.ass is losing my hearing as well so I try to keep it not too loud
Good list, I'd like to add 2 more to it though. New us accoustics are amazingly clear! And the db drive euphoria have to really be considered. Me personally I'd hold out on buying a new sq amp until the sony mobile es are rereleased, but that's me
I’m holding out for those amps.
Are the DB drives worth it?
I don't have any "SQ" amps but I can say I've discovered running slot of headroom improves sound exponentially, I had a pioneer 9701 on it my xr 15s then I upped to a AP 1800 sound increased alot even at low volumes I moved to cab45 once again same deal way fuller, my 9701 had made it to my car with a custom 10" it's a solid 1000w sub when I bought the cab for my van I put the AP 1800 in my car replacing the gm 9701 wow what a difference! It sounds killer now. Now the 9701 going in my truck replacing a toro r2 Haven't tried that out it will prob kill the little skar ix10 tho... Prob should keep the r2 in there if I want the kill skar to live.
yo yo, this video sold me on Arc. I had the xdi650.1 in my ride at the time. I was disappointed with the 500 @2ohm from a Fosgate amp. I tried upgrading power, but the 350 sounded better than the 500 RF amp.
I would have to say the US Acoustics "Mike" at $299 could be a great addition to this list. Big D already did a dyno run on it and it's built like a tank but sounds fantastic!!
You sho right!
@hifivega , that's a good list of amps especially the audison. RF T750x1 , Kenwood xr-1001 and morel MPs 550.1 are all very competent as well.
Had the RF T750 on the list, but it just barely missed an honorable mention. It would def be in the top 10
I agree with you. You line up of amps are great too
My suggestions are:
Hertz HCP 1DK - small, efficient, powerful. 24 db x-over slope and phase adjustment are nice features
Rockford Fosgate P1000x2 - great sounding versatile amp with 1000 watts of class AB goodness
The audison AP1D is really made to be paired with the one of the AP bit amps, it only has a 3 settings sensibility switch, and no crossover at all, you would have a hard time setting it up without a DSP
Both Sony XM GS100 and the XM GS4 are excellent budget options for SQ! The XM GS4 is HiRes certified as well. XM GS100 is a more quiet amp but geared towards SQ.
I know I'm late but the audison sr 1.500 amp would be a good one to review. Not alot of people use it but they should. It hits hard and sounds great.
Zapco has a class D SQ amp. It's 180x4 and close to 1200 rms total and has Bluetooth. I have 2 of them. I Also have high end Audison amps several Zapco AB amps, several other brands of SQ amps like Hertz, for example. For the power and money and SQ those zapco class D amps are no joke. Zapco-204D-BT. I think they were around $420 when I bought mine but that was before covid. Since then prices have increases a lot.
I had the kx2400.1 it was a solid amp. I powered one Orion Hcca12 it was loud.
HEADS DOWN I have all Alpine from deck to mids/highs aka V-power MRP 4ch/1ch with CDA-9811 with the built in time alignment setup as well OLD SCHOOL SQ SUBS 3 SWR-1041D
The Sq of the audio control is by far one of the best I've owned in all my years in car audio
What about the Helix M One & Helix M One X ??
From a very well know quality manufacture. Very well regarded, with top end products.
Solid picks! I haven’t gotten much eat time with either, but you’re right they make a great product.
Williston Audio Labs should more content like this, but with the dyno proven results! I think he’s leaving money on the table
I’ve been in his ear. Stay tuned….
Audio dynamics make great products they are in the sound quality world i have a all audio dynamics system and people are so shocked at how good the speakers are and the subs a nice as well
Yessir! A lot of folks don’t know about AD, but they should.
Yeah buddy!
Nice video my friend
Thanks
I wish more people would do reviews on Masconi or Gladen amps
They’re so spendy I suspect that’s why you don’t see many
Why not test the Mmats M600.1 amplifier interested in purchasing one but want to see how they fare against others?
I like the rockville krypton M3 amp.
Would you think about making a Top 5 SQ Full Range 4/Channel amps for mid's and high's
Mosconi, Alpine, Kicker, Audiocontrol, Fosgate… might be my top 5 brands… we gotta set a price cap though to pick the models.
Fo sho!
It would be nice to get his opinion on a list for $600 and under and another one for $2200 and under
Yeah I'm with you HiFi I still love kicker they were my first two systems... Awww, a moment of silence and remembrance to honor the legend of kicker that was Steve irbys brain child...
I have Arc Audio Ks1200.1's running
I feel like that kicker is probably the best of your picks for what you get :) but I would have liked to see the fosgate R2 on that list, fosgate for life!
Almost added the RF T650.1
I have tried to find a better amp for the money, but I can't give up my Kicker KXA amps. At 1ohm, they are listed at "+ or - 10%" of the 2-ohm RMS rating, but they definitely put out more power when you run them at 1 ohm. I have the sub channel of a KXA800.5 and a KXA400.1 wired on each coil of a DVC sub rated at 1000 watts and with the gains matched I get 400 "+ or - 10%" W RMS on each coil, perfectly matched with the gain setup, plus the wireless bass knob is linked to both sub channels and controls both at the same time without any issues. Kicker put a lot of value in those amps, AND they sound great too.
What’s everyone thoughts on the Memphis Audio VIV 400.4?
I feel like this was directed at me… SQ build + a little extra available POWAH on the bass side FTW
As always… thank you for your dedication and time you put into this. I may joke around sometimes… but I was looking forward to buying you a few beers at Kfest! 😔nothing but respect audio-brethren! Keep up the great content. Love seeing you grow and expand, as well as your audience base. I hope it starts really paying off financially so you could work less hours at your regular job, I’m sure it’s only a matter of time brother! ✌️
D,amore clean D amp are solid and have amazing sq.
You obviously didn't pay attention that's way over $500 bucks
@@jase1911 $335 on Amazon…
Great video👍If i were building a sq system in say Momas car It would be a Rockford T-500 for lows and a T-400 for mids & highs. The T series are beutiful amps too.
RF fo lyfe!
I’m trying to get wheelie to sell me his T3002 as we speak, I miss mine. So so much, keeping fingers crossed, I bet I can pull a 150 dB with it in my Mitsubishi… I’ve already pulled a 146.8 with the t3002 and 2 Memphis subs in a 94 accord. I just know I can pull a 150 out of it with my car that is literally the best designed car for audio that I’ve owned. Maybe he’ll show me a little ❤️
@@BericBuilds I'm thinking really hard about swappin out my prime 1200 with a T-1000 the T series is way under rated they'll do double power dynamic at 1 ohm.
@@edud8452 do it!!! I’ve installed every single silver old school T series from 2000s, from the 3002-to multiple t4000’s…and multiple of most, I always made it a point to show the customer Fosgates birth sheet, not only as a selling point, but as proof of the quality of product matching the quality of install… and EVERY SINGLE AMP that I opened back then came with way more than it’s rating on box… some were even multiple hundreds of watts difference and in my opinion that should be what any successful amp company should strive for. When a electronic device can’t even meet the ratings it’s sold as… then how can that be a good investment with as many companies that out there competing for your money and time. RF was my juice back at Sound Advice USA… RF/JL/Alpine and Memphis. Then we got rid of RF and Memphis, picked up focal/mosconi. I have not had much play time with the newer T series stuff, and only got to install a couple T1’s and T2’s. Still want to put hands on a T3.
Waiting for the 1000w review
Now waiting on the SQ highs amp video or front stage components video
Def needs to happen!
The Kicker KX line is now discontinued.
Will be replaced with a new line called LX in 2021. It will be a KX and Q class mix.
Rockford fosgate prime r2 1200 and jl jd 1000
I got a kicker kxa 800.. got it in a bundle from offerup.. after selling the sub I bought my final cost.. $15 for the amp! Only problem is I don't have the remote.. and they are NOT for sale anywhere..
I sold them amp for around $200. It didn't work with my sub/box at the time. I probably would have kept it if I had the remote.
Honestly surprised Some JL amp didn't make it to the list. With that being said i believe you did pick probably the best qmps for the Sq job
JL almost got an honorable mention as well as RF
It's probably just a price point issue with JL. I ran JL for years and they were some great sounding amps.
@@HifiVega Zapco.... ZAPCO.. XAPCO.... ZAPCO.. I Dunno which one but there's gotta be at least one that's legit under 500$
I'm just a Alpine guy I guess we don't have all the gimmicks but as far as SQ my S-A60 on 2 JBL 10s sounds superb
How about full bridge amp compression. I myself have a sundown sfb1000 and a b2 audio riot1200. I can say there are huge differences in sound and power between the two.
I’d love to, but I just don’t have enough personal experience with a lot of different full bridge amps yet. As I get more experience with them I will definitely consider it.
@@HifiVega these are my first two the b2 audio plays every frequency between low 20 and up with precision, the sfb wil kinda get a little muddy in the low 20s and gets better as the frequency comes up. On the other hand the b2 is a 1200rms amp that I've clamped 971 watts on my sfb1000 I clamped 1,267 watts on
Can the audiocontrol do what the epicenter does where it creates bass that isn't in a song? Or that's separate?
I believe that’s separate
Do best 4ch SQ amps under 500 dollars
Hi brother. Are there any SQ amps under $200?
Guess I qualify as a True OG. 👍🙃
You been a true OG since day one!
Nope just a Kip Blip on the radar. 😉
I have ran Arc Audio in my R34 Skyline for like 8+ years now, Highly recommend it to anyone who is serious about SQ.
Sick car!
Damn, R34 Skyline is my dream
Im still A believer in the words of Richard Clark.
I mean… I honestly dunno if I could pass in a blind test either.
How about a 5 channel amp to run one sub and 4 high range front speakers...I don't see too many people out there doing some videos on a 5 ch amp..
Thanx Rob ! / how bout 4/5 Chan sq amps
Def on the to do list
What's your opinion on the DS 18 amps?
Haven’t gotten a chance to use any yet
I own two kicker ZX amps a ZX 1000.1 and a ZX 2500. 1 what do you think about these.
Great amps fo sho! I wish they looked a bit cooler tho lol
Maybe us acoustics . Mike 1500.1 or d'amore engineering clean d 1000.1. maybe not on this list . But sounds way cleaner than there price tag leads on.
The US Acoustics are nice amps fo sho
HifiVega
Whats your take on Sundown SALT 1700.5 as SQ amp for running Morel Hybrids 602.
I haven’t had any experience with the salt amps so I couldn’t say.
@@HifiVega
Ok thank you for your response
Yesssir!!!!!
What’s poppin man!
Rockford Fosgate Power T600.4 (Bridged, 300 x 2) - 85 dB, MTX Thunder 75.4 (200 x 2) - 78 dB, JVC KS-DR300.4 (180 x 2) - 80dB, Focal AP-4340 (190 x 2) - 76 dB These all are for 5 1/4 component system (85.9 - 89 dB) with a single 10" sub (84.45 - 86.5 dB) in a sealed box, and HU (105 dB or 4V preamps). Good, clean, ground-shaking, SQ no sound deadening! Volume on 1, sounds like 30 or 40. 🤣 Oh, I forgot, flat EQ no bass-boost or loudness, and amp Hz set at 500 for loud, solid bass! You guys are maniacs with 5-amp set-ups!!
Looking for a 1,500 to a 2,000 watt sub amp for my truck. I have a RF t750bd now and jl Vxi 600/6 on my minds and highs now. I would like the kicker kxa 1,600.1 but I don’t know if I want to buy a refurbished amp. Any suggestions?
Depends on your budget, but I’d consider the Audiocontrol LC-1 1.1500, Kicker KXA 1600 or 2400, RF Power 1500
Check out the JL RD1500/1 It's a large amp (14-5/8" long)
Bro 🤔... what happened to Rockford fosgate?... They got great SQ amps
Rockford Fosgate is great!
all are new school i like more the old school of all time amps for sq zapco c2k series zapco studio mcintosh amps soundstream reference series orion reference 90's us amps ppi pc ppi art series and much much more nice video bro
Synergy Audio WFO 2.1D
Synergy Audio WFO 3 1D
Synergy Audio SYN 1.5K
Synergy Audio SYN 2.5K
Synergy Audio SYN 3.5K
Arc Audio KS300.2v3
Everytime i buy kicket kx amp or even a L5. Hifis product will cum durable but a kx 600.1 refurbished sounded like 50 watts vs kx400.1 from best buy. This was like 16 years ago. Hell i even ordered KX 1200.1 only bcuz it said NEW so what arrives? A kicker SX1250.1 it was all digital n i barely new ohms but kicker made it good enough to where it would last atleast a year before it said SERVICE on the screen. Had it on 2 12 L7 2004 model i guess. Honestly the last great solobaric made trust me i go threw em like butter.
The JL RD500/1 is only $349 as of 8/23/21 and sounds great.
I got the JL RD1500/1 version
@@throwback_jackson I really wanted to go with RD1500/1 but I just don't have the room. The RD500/1 paired well with the 10TW1-4 subs I went with.
@@promodmerc o ok cool I love this amp this probably the 2nd best amp I ever owned I also got the 4 channel to go with it
What features make a sub amp SQ vs SPL?
Better pre amps more output filtering sometimes a more tightly regulated power supply.
Along with better opamps better snr, channel separation,damping factor
High dynamic power . Something I look fore in a sq amp. Makes musical peaks in tracks come to life
@@paulgood2218
Know of any that'll push 1k+ watts?
How about the zapco st1350 xmii
Haven’t been a big fan of any of the newer Zapco stuff I’ve had my hands on. It’s decent equipment at a premium price
@@HifiVega I have 3 x st 4 sq and the 1350 at 1ohm for my sub in my SQ build, i thought it would be within the price range (i am in the uk and thought it to be very cheap), love your videos by the way, keep it up
@@markjackson5247 I think it’s within the price range. I’ve heard some great systems with the new Zapco amps, but I always feel like it’s because of the person doing the work and tuning more than the amps themselves lol. I guess that could be said about any piece of equipment tho
@@HifiVega installation and tuning is what makes a system, I have been lucky enough to have peter from ps sound do my tuning( he does a lot with IB) so I couldn’t agree more.
@@markjackson5247 yeah love peters videos! He’s great
I realize class d has come a very long way, but I’m shocked that you only had one true sq amp here in the Gladen class a/b. Are there just so few a/b options out there right now?
Because class d is more efficient and sounds just as good now a days. SQ is about the sound not the topology and in my opinion class d has caught up
@@HifiVega it doesn’t sound just as good, I’ve tested them many times over the years and there is a very distinct difference
@@HifiVega maybe some of the brand new top tier d have caught up, but the one’s I’ve tested never sound as good
@@StopTargetingOurKids I’ve done the same and have come up with the opposite opinion lol. I was a a/b holdover for the longest
@@HifiVega I’m sure it comes down to the vehicle and box and speakers your testing with and maybe my old ears just hear different
I STILL HAVE MY OLD SCHOOL 2 ESX Q175.2 ... ..I WILL NEVER SELL MY BAD BOYS...ABOUT 2 YRS AGO I PICK UP ARC AUDIO X2 2500.1 LET ME TELL YOU IT'S A MONSTER 6-40 AMP TOTAL 240 VERY CLEAN POWER ....PAYED $1300.00
How can you forget JL Audio? 1000d
Great amps it’s just a small list of 5
Im a Big Dummy I forgot to subscribe cause UA-cam always recommends your vids I thought I was already subscribed 🤦🏽♂️
It be like that sometimes lol
Why the Kicker Key 500.1 not on this list. This lil Amplifier dyno's at 653 higher than 500 watt rated.
I went with the KX over the Key because it’s more power and more flexibility, but the key is excellent no doubt.
@HifiVega True I went with the key because I felt it Dyno 653 was good enough power plus low voltage and all I have a 2021 f150
@HifiVega In your opinion did I do good going with Kicker Key set-up 200.4 and 500.1 to start a decent SQ System.
@@jamesf1505 yeah man that’s a dope system that I know can sound great
Running front stage Alpine X-series 6x9 components and rear Alpine R-series 6.5. Haven't decided on sub size and how many yet for under rear seat....any ideas????
My top 5 are
5. ZAPCO STX4SQ 350
4. Rainbow germanium 4 channel amplifier 499
3. Helix G Four 269
2. Zapco ST 4X DSP 400
1. DLS cci44-40 4 channel 400
I just don't see how the arc audio is above the kicker kicker has the better features it's cheaper it's going to have more output and a better bass knob The Arc is just plain
When you get into the more sound quality focused gear it’s less about features and more about the quality and refinement of each component
"I don't know what to do with my hands"
😂😂 indeed
No Zapco?? But maybe priced out. 🤷
The 1000xm is around $440, but I honestly haven’t been impressed with them sound or power wise.
@@HifiVega that's fair. I brought them up because Zapco is found in sq champions list every single year going way back to now, but I'm seeing more arc and hybrid audio lately last few years. Hope Zapco not changing, selling out, or falling off the block. I've used most of their older stuff not newer lately. Good Vid though Vega, SQ gets put aside alot, but I guess spl is where the big sales money is, lol. Thanks again
@@2wheelninja yeah a lot of folks have been using their equipment so I guess they speak for themselves
@@HifiVega but hey I agree with your list, not knocking you in any way. good work on that! I don't disagree with any of it, good research and thanks for sharing with us. 😁
@@2wheelninja oh yeah fo sho man! Me and Zapco have a sorted past lol
Basically in short I'd b carefull on vouching for them Mr. HiFi Vega.. Nd again this was 17 year ago. N all i was sayin is i wouldnt buy refurbbed.
Arc audio is were is at
Rob my #1 pick is the @KICKER key 500.1 sales for $ 249.95 FTW
Solid pick
The Key 500.1 is definitely legit.
Infinity Kappa K $399.00
No way are any of those amps comparable with the audio control. SQ wise anyways .
It's all about signal to noise ratio (distortion) except for the gladen.
Top 5 SQ coaxial speakers
Rockville beats them all .
Eh don't want to troll or bitch or something but, sound quality really isn't that important when it comes to sub amps...the only real statistics that needs be "good" is the damping factor and the power output...
Dampening factor isn’t really even a factor in today’s amps, but a quality pre amp and better output filters do make a difference and if you notice I didn’t list an amp over 1500 watts
@@HifiVega I am more like, the pre amp is in the radio/processor...And the only thing i want a sub amp to do is control the woofer..And play between 10 hz and maybe 100 hz...And with 400 watts at 4ohm a decent party can be had..
@@HifiVega And the Gladen amp is surely the best amp on this list...I had the x-ion 275.2 or something like that...that was a beast..also the subs are awesome..
The damping factor is really an underappreciated subjective ACID test for sub amps. Why? Watch how clean the amp sounds especially when subjected to larger diameter subs in ported Configuration. Most amps will need fall short in how cleanly Large diameter subs are " controlled"
You should test real SQ amps. Class AB or class A only.
There are less than 5 true class a amps available in car audio at this moment and you need to look at the SQ winners equipment… How many multiple time champions are running class ab?
Dude stop with the restless hands....
👋🏼👋🏼
Class D amp for SQ? No mate, nope!
I was the same way for the longest time until I got out and started listening to these new cars winning comps with all class d amps.
@@HifiVega you mean class D on highs and mids? Cuz D on subs i have no problem at all, but anything else not good enough for me! If you like how they sound more power to you bro!
Yeah, he's raving about all the DSP functions, which are only useful for masking your bad sub. If done right, you shouldn't need to tweak, at least for true SQ.
@@drumsmoker731 no need to tweak????? In a car environment?
@@drumsmoker731 I can’t disagree more with you. The car is probably the worst environment for proper music setup. Basically you need tons of dsp to make it sound right!