No One is Telling You the Truth About Electric Cars, So I Have To
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- Electric car review. Watch This Before You Even Think About Buying an Electric Car, DIY and car review Scotty Kilmer. Electric car review. Worst electric car to buy. Buying a new electric car. Buying a used electric car. Should I buy an electric car. Why electric cars are hard to work on. Why not to buy a electric car. The truth about owning an electric car. Car advice. DIY car repair with Scotty Kilmer, an auto mechanic for the last 53 years.
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Scotty your the only one man enough to expose the secrets mechanics hide from us to take our money
Maybe talk about the potential of corrosion of any of the electrical components being a major issue from salt especially in the north east.
Scotty what is the instrument that allows you to know if there is water in your brake fluid ? I was looking at it and can't find anything , thank you
@@leandrolaporta2196 hygrometer
Since you asked, EV's will destroy the used car market. The cost of battery replacement on a ten y/o vehicle will exceed 50% of the cost of a new vehicle. No one, with half a brain will want to buy a used EV. A ten y/o car will only be good for its none worn parts. The rest will be mechanically or chemically broken down to extract various metals. The rest of the vehicle will fill up our landfills at an exponentially high rate.
Furthermore, if "Right to Repair" legislation is not enacted relatively soon, repair shops throughout the country will close up shop since they won't be able to access specifications, OEM parts, and programing information.
Why would the battery need to be replaced when they can last a half million miles? Confused on this take
@@Ghost-jy9hk The quote "half a million miles" was a pipe dream by GM's managers. Present day battery technology only provides for ten years of useful service, after that, it's off to the recycling center and/or the land fill.
@@corin164 there are electric vehicles more than 10 years old and still running. Seriously. The new 4680 batteries target a million miles. There are research papers online you can read right now that talk about this.
@@Ghost-jy9hk I bet that battery is only holding 50% to 60% of its original capacity.
@@Ghost-jy9hk you are obviously someone who knows nothing about the real world specs… Co Rin is totally right. Batteries lasting a million miles is crazy. Looks good on paper but would never happen. And to top it off, batteries should be measured in hours not miles. But that is a whole other topic lol
Sad that the days of buying a vehicle and it lasting the rest of your life if you do basic maintenance once or twice a year, and you don't abuse it are gone.. :(
I have a 2012 eco boost f150 and I know I’m going to have to replace the engine soon. That’s ten years use. I don’t see the difference between that and battery packs needing to be replacing in 10 years time. At least it’s optional, only losing range after 10 years compared to catastrophic engine failure and not having any range at all until the unit is replaced really doesn’t sound that bad.
Heck I got a 78 GMC. Wanna know how many engines that truck has had?
@@slackersurf I have a 96 Lincoln Town Car, a 98 Chevy k3500 truck, a 1999 Chevy Monte Carlo, also a 2017 Impala. The 2017 Impala has been in and of the shop constantly and I guarantee it will not last as long as my older vehicles that run as good as they were when new.. the Impala has already had constant computer problems, 2 sets of wheel bearings, break problems, sunroof leaks, problems with lights, and if we get a good rain the trunk will fill up full with water despite having new weather stripping and replacing weather seals around taillights. I also don't think the Impala sounds like it runs right.
Don't write them off just yet, this energy crisis has made people realise they are not such a good idea....
@@slackersurf so 10 years of use of the 2012 and 10 yes of use of the electric battery…. Hmmm… is that a coincidence…is like theyre putting a timer of these new cars!!
@@slackersurf You need to discover Honda and Toyota, their engines are bulletproof and impossible to wear out as long as oil is changed occasionally. A a long time Japanese car driver I know this for sure.
It is true what you say about making sure you operate between 20% and 80% for the battery so it doesn't lose range. However if you do this, you basically already lost the 40% range, that you aren't using right from the get go. It is a lose/lose scenario.
Plus additional 20-30% range loss if the temperature are below zero
or too high like here in FL... over 90-something degrees not including humidity! and because of that, the estimated milage range that the ev cars says you'll get with a certain level of battery charge can be WAAAY OFF.
The range is there. You just don't use it most of the time
I wish someone would ever discuss the human and environmental impact when sourcing the minerals required to build the batteries for all these electric vehicles not to mention their disposal. The health effects of all the electrical exposure.Also the fact that knowone anywhere has enough electrical infrastructure to handle the equivalent requirements of conventional vehicles for our needs. We just can't ignore over a hundred years of progress getting the world where it is. It's not perfect but it's worked. I think its premature and immature to believe this new way can be implemented 100% in just a couple years when the powers that be won't talk about the downside of this electric wave at any cost.
I just posted a video about the horrendous conditions in the Congo, where child labor is used to dig colbolt for the batteries. Just horrible...
You need to really educate properly because you all here knows nothing about electric cars. Lets talk about oil and gas where you bleeding out this planet. Oil, gas are to keep the planet firm and when drilling out oil which leads to depletion of minerals in the soil so we're not consuming proper nutrients. Oil and gas comes like blood so next couple of 1000 yrs this planet will surely die.
The cool part is that we are making discoveries everyday to replace exotic materials, improve batteries and get more performance out of EVs!
This^^^
Imagine a world without gas, and no alternatives. Electric must progress to be one of the viable options in the future.
Drove by a broken down EV on the highway from LA to Las Vegas. AAA tow truck had a GAS generator to pump electricity into the EV. Now that is pretty ironic.
I drive by broken down cars all the time.
Turns out there are plenty of people who have bad luck or suck at taking care of their cars.
@@ColrathD Agree...people suck at taking care of their cars...my father told me many years ago when I got my first bicycle..."Take care of your things and they will take care of you." And then when I got my first car, he said: "Preventative maintenance is the best way to avoid expensive repairs...and never, ever go cheap on tires and brakes...they are your life line." Oh, he also said, "Never marry a Southern woman, they are HIGH maintenance." LOL...he was from Mobile, AL, and he married a California girl...glad he did. Cheers!
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Someone did plan their trip. Funny thing is that the NAVs on EV tell you where you should stop for a charge. He obviously ignored the recommendation.
@@ymcpa73 However, it was 120 degrees outside and that changes the range calculation.
I don't have any experience with EVs but I do have 20 years of experience working on Toyota hybrids. When the Prius first came out, we were told that eventually we would be able to replace individual battery cells rather than the whole battery pack. Well that repair option isn't still available from Toyota. At this point I don't think it ever will be. From what I've heard it's not available from Tesla either. There's obviously a huge difference between the costs for a hybrid battery pack and an EV battery pack. I won't even think about buying an EV unless that repair option is available.
EV maker Nio has battery swap tech that's neat. Check it out!!
@Robert's happenings yeah and on top of that the distance you can travel lowers everday!!! Now wait, hold up!! So first ill half to charge 2wice a week then 3,4,5 and it's not going to stop! So if I drive to California from east Coast on the way back I got to stop more to charge!!! Are you kidding me??? Now see the truth off the matter is a TESLA car with true tesla tech never needs charging! I don't see why it can be alternator/s recharging the battery while you drive? You can have a dual system like dual core processors! Or quad core etc. These batteries or half or a portion of can easily be recharging as you role! It's all about controlling the people!! You can tweak your electric car to never need charging and once people figure this out game over!!
Toyota has agreed with BYD to use blade batteries, these may be able to be replaced.?
My experience with Toyota Hybrids is my ex-boss had a Prius with a blown head-gasket and needed a ride to work every morning!
Your car, or any mechanical device will never be able to fully recharge itself through regenerative braking. Although you can get some energy back from the kinetic energy you've spent, friction, driving the generator and heat will never allow for 100% to be recaptured. What you are talking about is a perpetual energy machine. No such thing. At some point you'll need an external energy source
What I have yet to see addressed, and it may be because of a lack of data, is how much more expensive an accident could potentially be. More precisely, how much more likely is it that the battery could be damaged to the point it would require replacement after an accident ?
Owners usually sell the batteries from wrecked evs. That's basically what the ev hot rod community lives on right now so I'd say that usually they're undamaged
We had a Chevy Volt for 10 years - 138,000 miles. It got 50 miles on a charge, and went down every year a little as it got older. But after 10 years we were still getting 27 miles per charge
which is not bad for a 10 year old electric car. We loved the fact that when it ran out of a charge, it had a gas tank to charge motor for us. So you could go anywhere as long as the tank is
sufficiently full. We changed the oil once a year. We went through two sets of headlights and two sets of tires. At 138,000 it had the original brakes. Also not bad. Did not miss the gasoline at the pump. But unlike the advise you gave to not overcharge, Chevy just told us to keep it charging at all times. Consider the fact that lighting storms also cause problems. I was driving to work and thunder somehow shorted my car's computer. So as much as we love the electric car, I PROPOSE that we build multi-fuel cars like the Volt. You could run a car on propane, switch over to gas or electric or maybe hydrogen or solar. Think how far a bus could go on multi-sources. Cars probably only on 2 sources. But an SUV might be able to have 3 sources. It's all about mileage really.
I believe the volt never charges to 100%, that’s why chevy recomends charging fully (because fully charged is actually 80% charged and empty is actually 20%, that’s why the volt gives you a few miles extra if u are completely empty and wiyhout gas)
When Chevy volt first came out it was 40K. Toyota Camry was 27K. Volt is gone but the Camry is still here with many over 200K. Volt used a lot of brakes and tires. The battery life span of your volt was over. How much was a new battery pack that YOU did not buy?
Hybrid? Great idea, too bad no car manufacturers produce one!
I had the honor of changing out batteries in a volt the cost when done? Customer paid over 7k
What’s a battery change cost?
They need to make the brake lights flash when the accelerator is released. They rapidly decelerate without warning.
Tesla's brake lights come on as soon the pedal is released because of the regenerative brakes.
They do
@@mtbse789 not the one I was behind. It was like dropping a manual transmission into second gear.
That kind of situation would be catastrophic on a slippery road surface.
@@mzampell Damn..maybe it's a setting then? Definitely much safer if they do come on.
I’m sitting here watching this like I can afford an electric car 😭😭💀💀💀😅
There will be a $25K Tesla in the near future.
If you can't afford an electric, you probably can't afford many ICE cars either. There was a news report that the average cost of a new car hit $40k.
@@ymcpa73 That's true, but the median price is probably more like $30K. Just like the average wage is higher than the median wage.
@@jamesvandamme7786 why the hell would anyone want to do that lol? It would be a good way to throw money down the drain if that is someones goal, i guess...
@@ymcpa73 real cars have resale value. no one (with a brain) is going to buy a used electric car
The more you use the regenerative braking system, the less the friction brakes are used. That causes the rear brakes to rust faster, ending in them needing to be replaced long before they really need to be. I've seen this so many times on electric cars, and hybrids.
Yes! Was just about to say this, I'm a service manager and explaining this to ev owners is never an easy thing because they're promised low cost of maintenance but replacing 450 dollar brake jobs for each axle twice as much haha.
@@waynesmith6393 does batteries can stay working well after 100.000 miles
Great unbiased video. Very refreshing. It would have been entertaining if you had mentioned the cost of replacing an EV battery out of warranty, which is NOT unheard of.
the cost of an ev battery is $4500.+ another thing not mentioned is if you need to work on any electrical part of the drive system you need 2 people, 1 to do the work, the other to safety watch as the large battery puts out 300+ volts DC and will kill you quickly. it does not throw you off like AC. wspeciqal saety equipment is required hemet, safety glasses, linemans gloves& more for 2. also a length of wood 2x2 for the safety person so they can push/pry the worker off the high voltage circuit & then call 911.
I’ve seen a Tesla car ( not sure which model) is $20,000USD and that’s about average. The minerals that are needed is in high demand and very expensive, this might change in time, but who knows. Changing a battery every 10 years is very expensive to me
Scotty talking calmly and not laughing! I'm very impressed with the calm demeanor and being willing to change your whole schtick at such an advanced age.
Advanced age ,you are funny
Scotty does a straight man video every now and then these are good documentaries
It’s called documentary
It’s called maturity, maybe someday the same can be said about you
...you must be new here. and trying to act like you're not. he uploads videos in this style all the time
If I have a choice between getting a Tesla at 50 grand or getting a subaru at 20 grand, I'll get the subaru every time. As the rich get richer and the middle class get poorer, the gas powered cars are what's affordable......
I'm with you on that
Still? Gas prices just go up
Don't buy a Subaru unless you want to pay for a head gasket replacement (x2) prematurely, compared to an inline 4.
@@thefix2573 My last five cars were subarus and I think I only replaced one head gasket. There were other problems like water pump, radiator, exhaust, etc. but I get what you are saying. You don't get those kind of problems with an electric vehicle, which, of course, you're right.
What about a Nissan Leif for 20k TESLA IS NOT THE ONLY EV MAKER PEOPLE!!!!!!
I heard of a man who brought a brand new EV.
Lives in a climate the same as Michigan.
After 7 years he could not do his longest trip without adding stops to do extra top up charges. It had lost most of its Range.
It was considered "too rusty and worn" to justify the cost of battery replacement.
This was last year, so by about Feb it will be barely usable anymore.
Basically he said he could do a few small "in town errands"
but nothing beyond his city.
...WIND FARMs are causing WEATHER WARFARE putting ELECTRICITY into the Atmosphere and Global warming is a scam job fr the NWO gang Zionists etc ..don't buy Electric motorcycle cars etc
I have 4 years with an ev. 0 degradation so far
@@alexandrutudor9497 It handles the winter winds and snowstorms okay?
The guy I heard of lost the value in his because of body Rust
@@RetroCaptain very well. no issues whatsoever
I live in Alaska electric cars are basically for rich people who use them during our 2 month summer, designer cars for decor not practicality
What I find disappointing is the conversions. The dozen or so videos that I've seen are darn near $30,000 and a ton of labor. Some of the videos don't mention the cost at all. There's apparently no options for a low buck ev project. Another great informative video,Scotty.
you can do it as cheap as a couple grand, what are you on
@@Everything13ish a couple grand isn't cheap at all when you can take the fuel powered counter part and repair it for hundreds
@@cubandaddy8351 you think you wont spend a couple grand on a gas engine/trans every 10 years. including gas.
I saw a conversion kit today on alli express that was $548 US . Unfortunately delivery to the US is prohibited for some reason.
Cannot charge at home, live in a cold climate, do long trips regularly. 3 strikes, out.
Windshield defrost device but for the batteries. Already uses electric to heat...
You lose 60% range when towing, if you can tow at all... and you are constantly thinking will I make it while stuck in traffic while running climate controls... or do you have to cut off the AC and roll the windows down in your expensive electric car while I am comfy in my 4 cyl gas.. oh I can have AAA bring me gas if needed as well...
@@commonsenseguy8189 looks like EVs are for smart cities. Mad max everywhere else.
@@commonsenseguy8189 AAA will bring you electricity as well. And a Tesla will last over 10 hours in a traffic jam running AC or Heat.
@@commonsenseguy8189 When was the last time you had the AAA bring you gas. Towing with gas is also increasing your fuel use. I towed a 5000# trailer and I probably used 50% more gas doing that.
It shouldn’t be controversial to say that batteries have come a LONG way but still have some things to be worked out, without being shrieked at incessantly by a nearby Tesla fan.
Ford makes much better batteries than tesla and their R&D is far superior. Teslas look like a woman's vibrator but whatever there will never be artistic design in cars ever again only ugly crap designed by committees and computers.
@@spikespiegel2246 Teslas may look ugly but they are years ahead of Ford in technology. Check out Sandy Munro's comparison of the Mach-e vs Tesla. He gives Ford credit for trying, but says they made too many mistakes. One example, they use much more wire than Tesla, which means the Mach is less efficient.
I am a Tesla fan but I agree with you. There is much more to be improved with battery tech to make BEVs more mainstream. Tesla is ahead with battery and electric motor techs compared to other car companies.
@@spikespiegel2246 I never heard anybody say Ford make better battery 🔋
Elon musk is teaming up with a great battery producing company , makes the best batteries in the world 🌍
@@spikespiegel2246 haha. Take a look at the Ford Mach-E teardown, you’ll eat your hat.
This is a very good compilation of information. Defiantly a step up in video production.
You must be the best in your field. :-) you tend to keep up on the latest and greatest of automotive engineering. Thank you
There is no such thing as a million mile battery... No battery can be measured in miles.
if a person drives 15K miles a year that would be 66 years... This is how absurd it is to say a million mile battery..
Not to mention there is no way a manufacturer would make anything that would last that long. Even if the motors could last that long, the rest of the vehicle would be long gone in a junkyard. Built in obsolescence is the way things are built today - just ask VW. They know how much you will be spending on maintenance when they sell a car. I’m sure all the manufacturers calculate the money you’ll be spending in the next 5-10 years on a car.
They measure it them in charge cycles and convert it into miles so people can understand pal.
If a electric semi drives 50k or 100k miles per year then it’s 20 or 10 years...
Of course there's no such thing as a million mile battery yet. It hasn't been invented.
That said, that's only about 3X more durable than current Teslas can do. How is it absurd that in the future they could invent a battery that lasts 3X as long as the ones today?
@@ronstocke9805 they will make vehicles that last that long when we all pay a monthly subscription for our cars. 🎶 there's a great big beautiful tomorrow🎶
Or we can take the battery from our old car and put it in our new car, making the price of replacing our car every 5-10 years much cheaper.
I live in Texas, don't have a garage, and have no shade to park in at my apartment or at work. Not gonna work. Haha
Get a big deck umbrella haha
Fellow Texan here, and I for one approve this message...
I imagine a lot of people would be willing to buy a single small shed or something to put over their driveways just in case. With that said, it is going to be a major problem for some people and I would imagine they would need to start developing technologies to combat that for electric cars (like letting the car turn on the cooling system for a small duration of time when the outdoor temperatures reach a specific level or when the batteries reach a set temp.)
Too bad. Yet another reason not to live in TX.
@@wholeNwon Must be a socialist.
Good video watch again later in same app. Edward Gary Hauser here nice review Scott Kilmer! I enjoyed it and am reviewing it again and again all over again worth wile every little detail is so important and needs to be keep inside my brain.
A concise and precise presentation which stimulates me to take a keen interest. Your mention of the potential for negative impacts due to temperature variations beyond the manufacturer's range for the vehicle prompts me to ask about a tropical island conditions especially heat, also the risks of corrosion stemming from frequent rainfall.
...buy gasoline ⛽ ✨ WIND FARMs are causing WEATHER WARFARE putting ELECTRICITY into the Atmosphere and
My prius is almost at 300k miles and I drive it almost 5k miles a month😂 this car amazes me. Hybrids should be the first step instead of leaping straight into evs imo
Agreed
@@TheGecko213 only issue is hybrids are a lame way for the manufactures to delay while amortising their costs. Its not done for your benefit anymore.
@@TheGecko213 hybrids are basically a compromised ice car.
EVs are just better.
@@dragospahontu
I would rather have a hybrid then keep worrying about charging the EV .
I want to use the car for long trips and I don’t need to keep worrying about charging and wasting time hunting for chargers and getting stuck for hours .
@@andyfreeze4072
I hope you get stuck in long lines for charging when every @hole starts driving EVs
No wonder EVs and Hybrids are more popular in California were weather is on the 70s for the most part, than the rest of USA. Here in Chicago for instance, batteries aren't very efficient, specially in the cold winters.😨
As long as the power stays on, they'll be fine. No power, no car.
@Mr Destro Bingo. Snow and no wind means that green doesn't always work. Thus, no MTV!
International Falls Minnesota. -54f in January. You can deplete the battery driving to the mailbox.
@Mr Destro $hit happens 🤷🏻♂️🤣
@@guysview Crazy 😄
Good video, Scotty. Direct and to the point. Easy to understand your comments.
I drive a 2012 Mitsubishi I Miev . It is a great money saver and gets me around town . No complaints . It would be great to have more smaller affordable cars like this available in the US . Now most are not affordable for the average person . 😢
Pro tip: If a charging station has multiple cables, always try to use the cable that is shaded, or cooler. The charging cables at stations have heat sensors in them, and the hotter the cable is, the slower it will charge your vehicle.
Much easier to just drive up to a filling station, select grade of gasoline, fill up and in 5 minutes, you are on your way.
@@bondgabebond4907 your stations must be faster, it is at least 15 minutes here
Let me guess, California or some other place that worries about the gas fumes destroying the planet?
@@msgsgt Lol california is weird
No problem, just shade the cables from the sun with your body, and you can maintain optimal charging station performance!
Damn I remember when Scotty first started making car fix it videos. He has come a loooong way. Nice job Scotty.
Good Video what are the biggest must have's that manufacturers are missing out for the customer ?
I love how you talk, i can listen to you no matter the topic, youre fun listening to.
EV batteries are never actually fully emptied or fully charged either, even when you think they are. This is done to maintain the health of the battery, and is handled by the Battery Management System, which also (in most EVs) automatically heats or cools the battery when needed to prolong its life. For example my 2015 BMW i3 with 110K miles on it, still has 90% of its original capacity. I just wanted to say this, as while the advice about not fully charging or emptying the battery is correct, this is already taken care of by the car's BMS.
I've got a Toyota Prius and I know the battery on there is charged in the way you mention to preserve it so it makes sense that would be the same on an EV.
It's a different situation to an EV but my Prius is nearly 12 years old and has done just over 109,000 miles so they can last a long time
Yea, but no. Cause that like an iphone. Yes, apple accounts for battery degrading by having the battery never fully discharge but at the same time not to be full either. What scotty is saying is actually true. You don’t want it to be fully charged or drained beyond X percentage. What this helps (experienced this in an iphone) with is keeping the battery discharge rate the same with no spikes or sudden lose of battery power. For ex. Battery percentage is sitting at 40% and then next minute it drops to 10% then the percentage starts to go down 1% every 2-3 minutes.
Some manufacturers have bigger buffer than others. The ones that eke out max range are the worst.
Yes the cars BMS/computer controls the battery from bieng charged too much- or discharged too much. But if you drive it to "0 miles" and then don't charge or drive it for a while then it can lose charge further and go below the safe discharge state.
@@sk8ter202 Obviously everything in this video about an EV battery is true, but it doesn't explain that these issues are mitigated over time to a significant extend by the BMS, which ensures over the years that the usable capacity of the battery is maintained to not fail within the warranty, in my case 8 years or 100K miles. This is a huge difference between how a battery in a smartphone is managed and why there isn't a roaring trade in recycling EV batteries yet.
Just discard the whole car and buy a muscle car
👍👍
Absolutely!!
My Tesla leaves most “Muscle Cars” in the dust.
@@RW-ur7ym maybe for a short distance, no style or soul sorry lol
@@RW-ur7ym congratulations 👍 and my car will outlive your tesla by 30 times
Two thumbs u for you Scotty !!!
I really like your auto tips, tricks, and advice !!!
One thing overlooked is the drain from the heater. Winter driving can reduce range to half. Also neglected to mention charging facilities and charging times which can take anywhere from 30 min to 8 hours - now imagine if everyone at the pump had to sit there that length of time. Traffic would be backed up forever. I'm afraid the electric car is a rich man's fad being sold under the guise of ecofriendly but we aren't even close to being there with electricity production or storage technology.
I'm looking forward to driving a Flintstone car, the next generation of automotive technology.
Highway engineers should design all roads so they go downhill. We could all drive soapbox derby cars.
I am pretty happy with dinosaur era fossil fuel. Ever since they ditched 100% alky model T's. Glass bowl gravity feed 1bbl carbs are so archaic.
Yup, you really had to get out and push on a steep incline with low fuel tank. And maybe break your arm if wifey forgot to pull spark advance stalk. Fun times!
You must have gotten an advance copy of the "infrastructure bill."
I'm "working" on my callouses for "braking".
Emperor Wilhelm II of Germany said once he believed in the horse, the car will be only a short term phenomenon. But: He lost the first world war and his throne.
Scotty is the teacher we all needed in school; he keeps our attention (in other words, he's not boring), his presentation covers both sides of the story & he calls on us to share our experiences.
I agree... and my wife and I enjoy watching him. I brought up this thought...
Scotty is the Dr. Emmett Brown of the mechanic world. I swear. And after I said this, my wife can't unhear the similarities. Lol
Anyone else agree?
Amen
Lol
@@jamesmerutka889 Great Scott!
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I just did a small study of top of the line 21700 batteries (same as in a Tesla) and the results were interesting. Over 1 year of moderate use and 3 discharge/charge cycles per week they lost between %7 and %15 per cell. 1 out of 15 cells even developed an internal fault and started discharging themselves through generating heat.
In an electric car with thousands of these batteries I could imagine these results would cause some significant problems.
And yet, real world results do not support your "small study".
Exactly what 21700s are these? 21700s are a size of battery, (21mm diameter 70mm length) not a specific model or power rating. You can have 2000mah 5amp 21700s or 4000mah and 40amps. You can have Chinese garbage, or high quality Samsung cells. Simply saying 21700 gives you literally no information at all except their size…
Scotty you make all this stuff understandable thank you 👌👌👍👍
I was a forklift operator for a few years and the whole fleet was electric. It was a indoor Area where these lifts lived and every day and week there was a machine that was not working or a battery/batteries that would not charge or say is charged and not work. My experience was not so great with an battery powered vehicle. Oh and rhe heat wad unbearable at times generated from the Motor
What type of batteries were they? I'm guessing Lead Acid
I agree there a piece of crap
I also used a forklift in an electronic retail warehouse decades ago and they were all electric.
They were always around and when one didn't work properly, we'd use the others.
I don't get your post.
I worked at a similar place. There was a crew to replace the battery. You drop off a forklift or pallet Jack grab another and go.
Standardization of batteries could be swapped on a subscription basis.
@@Desertdweller1965 awesome to have that ability or surplus of machinery to be able to jump from equipment to equipment and not be waiting for vacant lift. To the other replies, yes lead acid batteries, Raymond/Toyota lifts. What batteries would be best for this application or work load?
I’ve been driving my EV for 3.5 years with 40k miles on it and i only spent $35 to do so! Free charging at work and the only maintenance needed so far is cabin air filters. Love it!
How far do u drive?
But the million dollar question is? How long is going to last the whole vehicle ?
@@zerosparky9510 I’ve taken it on 200, 300 and 700 mile road trips, mostly commuting to work tho.
@jane marshall did you have a Tesla? I’ve had 2 very minor problems which they fixed under the warranty.
@@2081calin ask me in ten years, I’ve always keep my cars 12-15 years
Thank you very much for the info,I live in montreal, and 90%of the roads are horrible, so what you said about having a hole in the battery due to road conditions, it doesn't encourage me to buy ev in this city
As soon as i saw an article about that doctor and father died in his electric car after it crashed and the resulting fire burned through the electronics and locked the doors permanently with him inside
If everyone owned an electric car, to recharge all those vehicles would require more powerplants. Powerplants use mostly fossil fuels to produce electricity. How are we ahead in reducing carbon emissions? This whole concept of EV's is beginning to sound like low flush toilets that need to be flushed several times to get that turd down.
Hence the current push to move from fossil fuels to renewables for electrical power.
Problem with renewable energy is it takes alot more wind farms and solar panels to create the same energy. Plus they have their own problems with pollution and impacts on the wildlife and ecosystems.
@Just think Germany went to wind power and realized it couldn't work out for them
@Just think solar doesn't necessarily have to be on their own standalone land, it can be integrated on the roofs of buildings and parking lots, having solar on parking lots would also pull double duty of shade for vehicles below them in the summer time
@Just think Putin's pipeline solves everything 😅
Love your videos Scotty. I have been watching you for years. Its incredible all I have learned from you. I am a better mechanic because of you and I have helped so many people by passing on all of your advice. I would be lost without you. Keep them coming please.
Hi Scotty, very informative. Quick question, my friend just bought a Kia EV and he's using it to charge the air conditioners (and trying to connect his fridge as well) in his home in southern California. He thinks this will save him in the long run but I asked him, wouldn't that destroy the car battery fast and won't you have to replace it? What are your thoughts on that? Thank you!
Maybe so but the battery maintenance can be much cheaper in the forklift. Those batteries don't need complete exchange since you can replace which ever cell (or jar) is bad
So far only problem I've had is rotating the tires. Since they recommend not lifting the car from one side only because it may damage the battery.
So if you get a flat how do you change the tire?
The problem is these cars are NOT DIY friendly. You cannot open the battery to replace the cooling nipple for example as Rich Rebuild showed on his channel. The a regular car you can replace a component without replacing the whole engine. An EV forces you to replace the whole battery or motor.
Now new cars are also a pain to repair now.
I still maintain that an old Camry is better.
BTW if you want an EV you don't need a $50k Tesla to get groceries or Starbucks. You can buy one of those street legal $2600 chinese EVs. They go maybe 30mph but if all you do is side streets who cares.
They also have a 2 stroke hydrogen implosion engine for that China brand EV.
If you have a Nissan Leaf the thing changes a lot! I have a 2012 Nissan Leaf and I do DIY maintenance. It’s easy! I’ve already changed two water pumps by myself!
This is true. It's gonna be closed system that we can't touch that much and it's pretty boring for DIYer.
@@amornyos i won't be surprised if they had tamper tags on the panels that void warranty.
@@jesuskingofkings Yes that's how you make an EV.
Excellent vid and lot of information Scotty, they brought it here in Middle East and it surprised users during summer where temperature reach 115 F battery dropped almost 30% or more due to the climate condition!! Also AC was not that great at all.
@UCn7eB_AzWujLEOsHKpPQftw USA is now buying crud oil from the first of March because our production has gone down with Biden's regulations
@@jlane9055 needs to disappear totally before we become barbeque meat in a climate runaway. Oh forgot, science wasnt your specialty. Seriously, there are serious benefits to eliminating oil and gas from your industries. A quick calculation and i would say, you could probably halve your taxes. You do realise that the oil industry props up your military adventures in the middle east and your government props up the oil industry to the tune of many many billions of dollars. Thats worked out great hasnt it?
It sounds like that you bought a car without a heat pump which would have made your battery and AC cooling much more efficient.
@@stevewallace1117 why would they even ship one without a heat pump to the Middle East?
Where I live it isn’t uncommon to have below zero F temperatures for weeks with lows in the -30s. I don’t see a future for these vehicles here. It would take more energy to heat it than move it. Wow, the motors can fail from dirt, that would suck if you live somewhere that has many unpaved roads.
Awesome vid especially since I have a interview with Tesla this wensday. Cool info man.
This is very informative. Until the final ounce of fuel is gone, an internal combustion engine runs at full power. When the battery is low on charge, Quality video
The best way to care for an electric car is to sell it and let the new owner pay for the repairs
We call that the BMW, Land Rover, Mercedes plan
OK but what are you going to Drive !!! ????
@@rogerhegemier8491 Ebike or a bicycle
The most logical and scumest thing too do 😂😂😂
I read a story where an owner of an electrical vehicle took the car to have his tires swapped for winter season. At the mechanics workshop they raised the car using a normal service lift of the scissor-type. In those types of establishments they change tires on lots of cars daily so the tempo is high and things are not always handled with caution.
Turns out that the lift somehow punctured the bottom plate of the car in one place which is where all the batteries are located.
The owner noticed that and of course wanted it to be properly fixed, worrying about possible damage to the batteries.
He went to several places and got roughly the same quote of approx 35,000 USD to fix it.
To safely repair the damage, apparently they had to more or less dismantle the whole car, since the batteries are part of the chassis system, deeply embedded.
Makes you wonder around the whole industry around electrical cars. It's not just the cars and the design of the cars. It is the whole aftermarket industry that also must be able to handle electrical cars in good way.
Then of course there is the thing about modern headlights on cars (not related to electrical cars only), they are extremely expensive and are "supposedly" never going to break if you believe the manufacturers. To replace them can cost up to between 3,000 to 5,000 USD each and are normally only covered in the original warranties from the the factory. Things like that makes the second hand market difficult. If you buy a 5-7 year old car for around 15-20 kUSD and the head lights need replacing, it's going to make the car almost worthless. This is a design flaw in my opinion. To make replacement parts that expensive can't be a sound design decision unless you focus only on people getting new cars all the time. That is not sustainable in the long run.
one question I have is: it looks like you will be sitting for long durations on top of the batteries...is there any issues with radiation, leaking of the batteries, are there any health issues involving this?
I'll take a Mad Max Pursuit Special all day long.
Battery is to insure product obsolescence: an EV is like a smartphone, you throw it out once the battery fails. Unlike a Duracell, you can't replace it yourself.
I replaced Gen 1 and Gen 2 Pokemon and other save battery reliant games and such as a first "job" before being hired as a mechanic. Anything is repairable if you are capable enough and with EVs, it will be no different than a early mech. injected VW diesel (which I own two of and their data and method of timing was difficult info to obtain but I got them to run reliably), pre-1970 kick start only Harleys (my dad repaired and maintains one), Ford and VW engines in general, just to name a few! Even my dad asked me to, and I repaired, his "disposable" laptop when his screen broke in a bout between him and my brother over stupid stuff.
Well if we introduced the guaranteed right to repair for everything this would be less of an issue as independent shops or consumers could get access to parts and tools to fix them
Then you introduce new problems such as a foot in for legislation as in who could be authorized to repair such things. Such measures is what all but killed magneto repair, and almost wiped out mech. diesel injector pump repair. Usually you break more than you fix the problem with such an option. We already have people who repair or make all those fun toys without authorization anyway so just finding the proper "go-to" to keep them alive for you to keep playing with them is in the long run, the best choice. Case in point, I even help VW diesel folks with aidful advice to enjoy their VW toys as my dad does when inquired to provide info with such unique hardware he plays with. Mind, I took my diesel to a dozen "authorized" diesel mechanics and they replied with either "WTF is that?" or told me, frankly to "Go FVck Myself." If one has the inherent capability to repair it, then folks who can fix it will exist or come into existence.
Actually you can replace it yourself, there's videos on UA-cam of them being replaced by DIYer's. Including videos replacing bad cells to save money rather than the whole thing. Perhaps this doesn't apply to every single model of electric car but I'd imagine it applies to most, no need to fear monger.
@@ellisargamer9248 Replacing one cell in your battery pack is like changing one tire out of four in your car. Some people go for this cheaper solution without knowing they shortchanged themselves.
It’s not the environmental answer that’s taking into account the resources needed for the battery
yea , what do you do with all the big old corroding n leaking lithium batteries ? landfills are full.
Totally 100% right and then coal factories that have to produce electricity for electric cars blue twice as much
yea , EVs n batteries are so inefficient......even moreso in very hot n very cold climates.
Someone learned from internet memes and not actually facts. Less than 19% off electricity produced is from coal. The batteries are recycled not landfill.
@@driver4011 ever seen an open coal field? Ever measured what the environmental loads coming from a coal stack are? Your looking at the small picture. We need to move beyond the petty, yes there are issues but you can only deal with them as they occur. Yes currently most power is from fossil fuels but we can change that. Its not an either or proposition. Its obvious we cant fix everything in one go, popular attention span isnt that good. As for land fill full of leaking lithium batteries, aint seen one yet.
But your videos are very clear to understand! Thank you😀!
I would like to see the battery life and condition results from international falls. I bet the cold temperatures greatly affect those batterys.
Wait until the motor controller goes out and all the many other components. Batteries also don't like vibration or impact like from pot holes.
Not to mention the weather especially in Canada where we use crap loads of salt on the roads that will utterly corrode the electronics I don’t care how much weather proofing companies put into protecting the motors and other electrical components salt water will destroy it
@@randomtimes4100 salt will also corrode your engine and transmission if it gets inside of them but automakers have done a pretty good job of weatherproofing the inside of my car's fuel lines, engine, and transmission, so I think the real issue with salt is the frame of the car.
So all the OFF ROADERS are going to want a V8❗🤓👍
@@markplott4820 do you own a Tesla
@@randomtimes4100 Agreed, I am in New England US and does anyone really think that EV range at 20 below zero will be the same as the manufacturer specs? That is not even considering how much battery power it will take to keep the car heated to a comfortable temperature.
I was expecting a moderately one-sided presentation against EVs but I was pleasantly surprised how fair, objective, and level-headed this video was. I am now a fan of Scotty Kilmer.
You were expecting that because you know that's the truth. EVs are a meme for people dumb enough to buy into the "green energy" delusion.
@@alphaforce6998 fair enough, but what are we going to drive when the gas runs out? It may not run out in the next 50 years, but it will run out eventually so we need a plan B.
You can convert any ICE to run on wood gas. We just have to clearcut the rest of the rainforest for fuel! Lol no but seriously gasoline is just one of many things you can make an ICE run. Renewable or alternative fuels like natural gas, propane, biodiesel, ethanol or even "gasification" of garbage! Yes you can make a car run on garbage!
@@remi009340 an ICE can run on hydrogen too.
@@SuzukiKid400 Exactly! so you answered your own question then lol
Very good breakdown of what people should consider when making a transition from ICE to EV. There is an alternative in Plug-In Hybrid vehicles for the average commuter. And your example of 1000 miles per month can easily be achieved with very minimal use of gasoline.
The hybrid is one of the original vehicle ideas from the late 1800’s - even Ferdinand Porsche designed his tiger tank prototype to be a hybrid , it’s also been used in locomotives since the 1930’s
Between 2018 & 2019 lithium, necessary for the batteries went from $9,000 a ton to $18,000 a ton. Imagine the cost if they mandated them , leading to billions of people buying them. The cost would be out of range for everyone but the extremely wealthy. And I think that's by design.
Kind of funny how the super elite and rich of the world seem to make things happen to convenience them and strain all the stuff for everybody else!
@@leemehan They actually believe that the resources of the earth belong to them, so they're trying to get us to give up our homes & live in 500 sq ft cubicles, eat synthetic food and restrict our travel. They're trying to make us serfs.
Now all we need is a power grid that can handle all this extra capacity.
This sounds to me like it could be a thorny issue.
I live in Manitoba, Canada, where we have an abundance of cheap hydro electricity. Clean, cheap and abundant. However, next door in Saskatchewan and Alberta much of the electricity is generated by FOSSIL FUELS.
So, exactly how much better off will the environment be?
That's not even starting on Ontario, to the east of us, whose power rates are already notorious - I don't see how running an electric vehicle there could possibly make economic sense.
Then, there's the distance factor and infrastructure required for charging. Much of Western Canada is remote enough that this is going to be very challenging.
Shockingly true!!
@@guywerry6614 lots of studies show that regardless of the source of electricity electric vehicles are better for the environment then internal combustion. The reason being that even if the local utility is using coal fire generation the overall emissions are significantly lower then the thousands of small internal combustion engines that would be replaced.
Yes in places like Saskatchewan the benefit wouldn't be as great but it still would be a net positive.
As for capacity is not like this would happen overnight. Horse and buggies certainly didn't when the IC engine was invented....
Get back to us in ANOTHER HUNDRED YEARS. If you want to drive Coast-to-Coast, you might as well take a covered wagon! And how's that ski boat going to work? Charge it every half hour? Like Electric Dirt Bikes? And if I'm out in the woods in my Jeep, what tree do I plug into? Yeah, nope!
@@robertthayer5779
Point well made... I'm sticking the gasoline engine, made in Japan..not by GM; I could write a book about the junk I've owned, from chevys to pontiac, cadillac and Oldsmobile. Owned a ford Taurus, it was crap too.
Im running about 700 miles with 13 gallons of diesel.
Screw the electric cars, for now
what are you driving a diesel gokart?
@@LichaelMewis I get 740 miles on 13 gallons in a Clio 1.5cdi
so it doesn’t work in the hot it doesn’t work in the cold it’s can't tow anything, it takes hours to fill up the tank to get going again and depreciates like a Stone dropped off a cliff.. Where can I get one?
I've been driving a 2011 Nissan Leaf for about 10 years. The battery had lost a significant part of it's range after I left it in the garage 4 months thinking it would be safer there. When winter was over and I went to start the car I had to recharge the "starter" battery and found the drive battery in good condition. But the range was significantly reduced leading to my quest to find a newer used battery. I got lucky and found a 2nd generation battery with 90% life on eBay for $2000 with installation included. That breathed life into my car and I'm happy with it. But "range anxiety" is a constant concern. In the winter I can go about 30 miles with the heater off, less with it on. In the summer I can go about 45 miles, less with the A/C on.
Put in 1 of those cheap Chinese Dieseal heaters 😊
Second time I've heard 'range anxiety' mentioned in conjunction with EVs. Wouldn't that also be described as 'premature discharge'?
I've been suffering from 'range anxiety' all my life.
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Great presentation Scotty. Thank you for making and posting this. Lots of useful EV tips and easily digested information. Greetings from England.
I definitely concur. Electric cars will become so common that we will need to know more about them, in general. No one else is trying to make this information as accessible as Scotty.
I would like to see a video addressing the fact that the majority of car sales are used cars and the actual retirement milage and age of a car is far greater than 100k miles and 10 years. How does the EV transistion effect this used car sales market?
so if people should leave there car in the garage in extreme cold and heat how do you suggest people get to work in the middle of winter and summer or they if they dont have a garage to park them in. and a gas engine can las well over 2o year mine is at 19 and has never needed expensive repairs.
You want an electric car that'll go a long way ? Install bicycle pedals. You might hear "Are we there yet ?" more often though.
You could always connect the car to a horse, so instead of a 'horse & CARt', it will be a 'horse & CAR'. Just be sure to carry some hay and water in the trunk for when the poor horse gets hungry and thirsty. That's true HORSEpower.
@@beachforestmountain4269 Endless money pit
@John Doe A cork will solve that problem.
@John Doe hahahaha
@John Doe Haha, couldn't the horse just expand like a balloon?
No EV for me but as an alternative i like the concept of the Hydrogen fuel cell , WATER . Scotty has mentioned ( i think ) as an easy conversion .
Infrastructure. They would have to dig up all those fuel tanks at gas stations and install hydrogen tanks. Hydrogen is never going mainstream.
Hydrogen fuel cells would be great, if hydrogen was readily available in a pure form. At an atomic weight of 1 hydrogen binds with many elements. Hydrogen electrolysis from water requires more electricity than the energy that the hydrogen produces. The most common source of hydrogen is from steam-methane reforming from natural gas, but that is still costly, but much better than electrolysis from water. Perhaps a more efficient method of producing hydrogen will be produced. It might be that a cleaner fuel will be produced from abundant NG.
WHY turn water and electricity into Hydrogen and then back to electricity when you can use electricity strait in your EV. It only make sense in heavy industrial applications.
@@bossman6174 the only advantage a hydrogen vehicle has over an ev is that you don't need to wait a long time to recharge your car, you can do it in only 4to5 minutes
@@dr.vishantpriyadarshi7050 But the cost of that is huge! saw a guy testing one of those in Canada, then i saw 46$ on the pump! then i knew hydrogen are done!
Is there harm in leaving an EV dormant for months at a time? Considering an EV for our second home but we are there 4-6 months per year. What is the best method for storing during this time? Effect on battery life?
I have a 2016 Nissan Leaf. It's great for around town or short trips
Respect and love to the one and only Mr. Scotty we know and we appreciate!
What a phonominal honesty in every video 👏🎊
As an electrical engineer I am impressed by the accuracy of the content, keep it up!
how about this... After every one owns an electric car, where will the charging power come from? As it is, hot summer air conditioners overtax the grid ! Think about THAT ! Seems no one ever mentions this !!!!
@@marcelfortin7035 This will require building additional power plants and running the ones we have at higher capacity. It is only a temporary problem. The main issue with adding more power plants, is that they will most likely all be coal.
@@tonycable4560 if the public would just get over it’s fear of nuclear fission, then we could have all the needed power for such station.
@@crafterchief3812 Agreed!
@J Thompson agreed
Very informative. I think I'll wait till all the kinks are worked out.
Great job explaining electric cars. In the forklift world electric forklifts cost more to purchase but maintenance was much less than Lpg forklifts. I expect the cars to be the same.
@rigamortice actually, it's quite the opposite. They hold their values better than ice cars. I bought a 2020 Chevy Bolt EV brand new for 28k, and sold it 40,000 miles and 2.5 years later for 27k.
The key words are "UP TO". Generally, I NEVER have anything come close to these hyped up "UP TO" claims.
you can win " up to " a million dollars and as little as " none "
Yup. They say a lithium ion battery has UP TO 500 charging cycles. Many solar energy users have been complaining about their lead acid or lithium ion battery for failing to keep their promises on the number of charging cycles. Temperature fluctuation, % of charge and discharge, ... all contribute to reducing the number of charging cycles that they claim that are based solely on the optimal conditions in the laboratory.
@@trumplostlol3007 I’m over 2000 charge cycles on my Tesla… originally 265 miles range, now 245… 8 years later nearly 200,000 miles. Still runs like new and still original brake pads.
@@cybertrk Good luck for that. The replacement cost of the battery is over 20k and where do you want to dump your highly toxic and carcinogenic used battery? LOL
I idled my little 4-cylinder today with air on freezing cold for like 40 min while on phone in parking lot , car is 20 yrs old.
Try that with electric car and battery will be dead. Mine only sipped a little gas.
Yeah but the plan is to reduce CO2 emissions, remember.
Congratulations?
one time forgot to shut down Lexus Hybrid. It was running a few hours overnight on batteries.
1:34 that looks almost exactly like the radio controlled car I had as a kid, with a lot more batteries of course.
I’m going to drive from GR Michigan to Tampa Florida 1400 miles, how many times will I have to charge and how long per change?
Love the quality content you continually post! I can watch other how to channels and sometimes have to go through 2-3 videos before I figure out what the heck they’re even talking about. Not your videos. You get straight to the point and tell it like it is! Thank you for helping us who weren’t raised around this stuff, truly understand what we are looking at and dealing with!!
Good job , I learned more with this video than the entire day at the dealership.
Dealership....the word makes me want to take a shower....I NEVER want to walk into one of those again in my life !!!! Buy Tesla you never have to.....
That’s because the dealerships tell you what you want to hear and they want to take as much money off you as possible 😲
You go to a *dealership* ?
@@debmanning8298 becase your car bateries are ded and your waiting in line for 4 hour charge
what would be the cost of replacing the battery? And what would be the residual resale value of the car after 5 years? compared to a standard IC vehicle
Question regarding hybrids / EVs. Jeep 4xes are having major problems in extreme cold? For all practical purposes the electric mod is not useable most of the Winter. What is the effect of very low temperatures on EV use / range? Is there any data on how road salt affects EVs batteries, electronics etc.?
From Michigan, so electric vehicles won't work here well in the winter time. Which means gas vehicles have to stay for that reason.
Like always you’ll need a “winter beater”
@@steveholidayworld2346 dammit I was gonna say that
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And a warm garage for your pampered Tesla
They’re the highest selling vehicle type in Norway.
@@nicholasthon973 That can't be possible because it's too cold over there.
Thank you for this and I also appreciate all of the detailed view of the components that are responsible for what they do to make the car function. You are the man Scotty!
I live in Florida. It gets over ninety degrees here each summer. No shade here when at work.
how much does the brake charging effect your battery life long term. do you want it trying to micro charge all the time while working?
Yeah, I'll stick to my gas Toyota Tundra/4runner. If the new Hybrid Tundra has good power, I'll upgrade to a hybrid..
Waiting for that diesel hybrid to get one for my dad. He still has his ‘95 Toyota pickup still trucking.
I have a 1994 Toyota Pickup. I drive it every day.
Thank you for this information Scotty and your honesty all these years and perhaps I can share my experience.
I have two electric cars for me and my wife we run these guys for three years 50,000 miles so far we don't have any big repairs but we replace the tires in both cars looks like ectric cars wear out the tires way faster also the tires are more expensive because they have to be lower assistant or ultra-high-performance but that's it we charge our cars at home overnight when is cheaper overall the maintenence in electric car is simple and way cheaper
Do you think, I can go for a ev over a gas car?
how much crude oil does it take to make the tires???...
@@dilakshandk77 at the end of the day oil will run out electric wont forget prices, maybe oil wont run out in this life time but it will eventually
@@miscool You do realize electricity does not grow on trees, right? Unless a country goes to, or back to, nuclear, EV's will still require fossil fuels.
EVs also wrigh around 500 Kg more than an ICE car, so the tyres will always wear out quicker
I live in Minnesota. Winter is half the year here. What about road salt? Does that eventually get to the batteries?
Yes! In Mississippi there isn’t a-lot of places to charge, and I was coming in from Georgia in a Kia niro last weekend an ran out of juice 10 miles from home. I had enough after leaving the last charger on my route but then it got dark meaning I needed headlights, an the temp outside went from 80 something during the day to the low 50s an my range went with it. Had to have the car towed to my house. Lol
I really appreciate these documentary style videos, presenting by a no-nonsense expert like Scotty. I've learned so much from this guy.
"Expert" ?
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Oh come on.
I didn't like him at first either
Got used to him and correctly bought a car with his insight.
If he's not an expert.....who is?
You learned things from his videos ? I remember learning before this bloody internet
Scotty isn't really an expert, he's just an old dude with a lot of free time and a lot of money, so he has time to play with tons of vehicles
How much CASH do the Oil Co, pay you Scotty
Hey Scotty, from Trinidad and Tobago very informative video as per usual Love how your doing historical/informative as well as DIY videos
Wow. You go girl. Great info with actual knowledge.