A Multi-Transistor Example Circuit Analysis & Design (066d1)

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  • Опубліковано 7 лют 2025
  • In direct response to requests for me to analyze and design a mutli-transistor amplifier, I present to you this video in which I will design a two-transistor amplifier with the following target characterstics:
    ** Input Impedance = 10 KOhm
    ** Output Impedance = 10 Ohms
    ** Gain = 10
    ** Vout (D.C.) = Vcc/2
    ** Vcc = 12 Volts
    In this video I will be using Kirchhoff's Voltage Law and Thevenin's Theorem to accomplish this task. If you are not familiar with these, I've provided links to my videos on these subjects, below.
    I will also be using Kirchhoff's Current Law. A link to a video on this subject is also provided below.
    I have created a "go-along-with-the-video" sheet which steps through the whole process of analysis and design exactly as I am presenting it here in this sheet. The link to this sheet is below.
    I've provided links to all of the videos in this series below the time markers.
    =============== LINKS =================
    LINK to the promised formula sheet:
    drive.google.c...
    === VIDEO LINKS ===
    Kirchhoff's Voltage Law
    • Kirchhoff's Voltage La...
    Kirchhoff's Current Law
    • Kirchhoff's Current La...
    Thevenin's Theorem
    • Thevenin's Theorem: Ba...
    Common-Collector Video
    • Basic Bipolar Junction...
    Beta-Stabilized Common-Emitter Video
    • A Beta-Stabilized, Com...
    =======================================
    Time Markers for Your Convenience
    ----------------------------
    00:05 Introductory Comments
    01:30 Defining Our Overall Goals
    02:21 Defining Our Hardware Architecture
    02:34 The Input Side
    04:24 The Output Side
    05:33 The Design Process: The Output Side
    05:44 Calculate I(BQ)
    07:22 Calculate Re2
    08:10 Calculate R22
    11:09 The Design Process: The Input Side
    11:39 Working with Zin
    13:04 Piece #1: R11||R21
    16:48 Piece #2: r(pi)
    17:28 Piece #3: Re1a
    25:25 Calculate the Base Current
    27:41 Calculate the Values of our Three Pieces
    27:49 Piece #1: R11||R21
    28:13 Piece #2: r(pi)
    28:33 Piece #3: Re1a
    29:02 Calculate Re1b
    31:59 Calculate Rc1
    34:11 Calculate R11 and R21
    34:19 Calculate R11
    38:13 Calculate R21
    39:15 Bench Results
    40:15 Final Comments and Toodle-oots
    -----------------------------
    ==== This video Series ====
    Video#1: Introduction to the Junction Diode (How PN junctions work)
    • Introducing PN Junctio...
    Video#2: Introduction to the Bipolar Junction Transistor (BJT)
    • Introducing Bipolar Ju...
    Video#3: Basic Bipolar Junction Transistor (BJT) Metrics for the Experimenter
    • Basic Bipolar Junction...
    Video #4 Basic Bipolar Junction Transistor Analysis: The Model
    • Basic Bipolar Junction...
    Video #5 Basic Bipolar Junction Transistor Analysis: The Common-Emitter Circuit
    • Basic Bipolar Junction...
    Video #6 Basic Bipolar Junction Transistor Analysis: The Common-Collector Circuit
    • Basic Bipolar Junction...
    Video #7 Basic Bipolar Junction Transistor Analysis: The Common-Base Circuit
    • Basic Bipolar Junction...
    Video #8 A Beta Stabilized Common-Emitter BJT Circuit: Analysis & Design
    • A Beta-Stabilized, Com...
    Video #9 A Beta Stabilized Common-Emitter BJT Circuit: Part Selection, Reverse Engineering and Bench Results
    • A Beta-Stabilized, C-E...
    Video #10 A Multi Transistor Example Ciruit
    ** This video **

КОМЕНТАРІ • 36

  • @randyanders
    @randyanders 11 місяців тому +2

    Wow, as if by magic!!!
    A video appears...I just remarked that I was ready to watch
    another episode of
    EIE

    • @eie_for_you
      @eie_for_you  11 місяців тому +1

      I am so glad that you are finding these helpful. I'm having fun with this series, too! 🙂

  • @alexanderbeliaev5244
    @alexanderbeliaev5244 13 днів тому

    Absolutely outstanding! Incredible videos on circuit design.

  • @W1RMD
    @W1RMD 11 місяців тому +1

    What an organized, well put together lesson! Very nice job putting this all together. Thanks and take care.

    • @eie_for_you
      @eie_for_you  11 місяців тому

      Thank you so much. Yes, it was a LOT of work, but so much fun! 🙂

  • @haraldlonn898
    @haraldlonn898 10 місяців тому

    now I remember why I hated these calculations. Yes this is the right and only way to be shure it works all the way. Thanks.

    • @eie_for_you
      @eie_for_you  10 місяців тому

      Yes, it can most certainly be tedious! It is a real puzzle and stretches the brain matter.
      You are very welcome. 🙂

  • @rtybn2012
    @rtybn2012 11 місяців тому

    Let me say at the beginning I find your video's to be educational and informative in electronic design in this series. As we both know that using values as near as possible will have very little effect on the outcome of the circuit parameters from a design point of view.
    There are many rules of thumb that designers use as short cuts. Again a great series.

    • @eie_for_you
      @eie_for_you  11 місяців тому

      Thank you very much! 😀
      True that. The point of design and analysis is to get us "in the ballpark" so that we can make intelligent modifications to the first prototype to meet requirements. 🙂

  • @mockingbirdanalog
    @mockingbirdanalog 11 місяців тому +1

    Great lesson. Thanks!

    • @eie_for_you
      @eie_for_you  11 місяців тому

      Thanks so much ... and you are very welcome! 🙂

  • @ornithopterindia
    @ornithopterindia 11 місяців тому +1

    👍Thank you sir.

    • @eie_for_you
      @eie_for_you  11 місяців тому

      You are very welcome! 🙂

  • @U812-k7j
    @U812-k7j 11 місяців тому

    Not sure if this video was in response to a comment I made about multi stage amp design if so you nailed it Ralph thanks so much for all the hard work putting this together.
    So Ralph how are going to top this one? 😮
    Looking forward to the next video and where this series will ultimately end up.

    • @eie_for_you
      @eie_for_you  11 місяців тому

      Well ... yes, you were one of the commenters that asked for a multi-stage example. I'm glad that it is everything you were hoping for.
      The immediate plans ... Next video is 3 ways to measure output impedance (as promised) and then load lines (which will include a bit of a tutorial on curve tracer stuff).
      My plan at that point is to switch gears for one video to cover some stuff on the nanoVNA at the request of another subscriber.
      Then it is back to a video on difference amplifiers. This kind of blows the top off of the standard model we've been using. The end goal? The Gilbert Cell balanced mixer/modulator/demodulator/voltage controlled amplifier...etc. all in one circuit thingy. 🙂
      I am truthfully very excited about all of this.

  • @garygranato9164
    @garygranato9164 7 місяців тому

    thank you for making this video

    • @eie_for_you
      @eie_for_you  7 місяців тому

      You are very welcome! 🙂

  • @rtybn2012
    @rtybn2012 11 місяців тому

    I contend that the resistor ( R22) is not necessary. Since the 1st stage is beta stabilized the collector voltage (Q2) very stable, therefor the voltage (Re2 is stable.

    • @eie_for_you
      @eie_for_you  11 місяців тому

      Ya know ... you got me thinking. So, I set up a simulation in LTSpice to test this theory.
      "How much of a difference does it make from the perspective of a simulated design?" I asked myself. I thought I'd share the results.
      I stepped the DC current gain of both transistors from 100 to 300. I also stepped the value of R22 from the designed 51.793K to 1000Meg. I looked at the D.C. output (with v(in) = 0). The one with R22 as designed varied by 0.573 Volts D.C. as the DC current gain changed. The one with R22 essentially nonexistent (1000Meg) varied by 0.600 Volts.
      So, yes, R22 does make a positive difference, but not very much of one! A mere 27 mV! 🙂
      Thanks for getting the mental juices flowing!

  • @ivolol
    @ivolol 10 місяців тому +1

    Are you able to show a bode plot of your circuit's performance?

    • @eie_for_you
      @eie_for_you  10 місяців тому +1

      I created one in simulation running from 0.1Hz100 MHz. The limitation on the low end is due to the capacitors. Their Xc of Ce1 is increasing, Re1b is becoming more and more of a factor in the gain as frequency decreases. The Xc of the input capacitor is also increasing, creating a voltage divider with the input impedance of the circuit (which is increasing with decreasing frequency). I think the upper end is a limitation because of the transistor, itself.
      Here is a link to the pdf of the results:
      drive.google.com/file/d/1UAVKSLmhESPPQzrTwxwdp2iJa4ewtju2/view?usp=sharing

  • @paulperano9236
    @paulperano9236 10 місяців тому

    What would happen if we stuck a coupling capacitor between the Common Emitter output and the Common Collector input ? Wouldn't that isolate the DC of the two halves and make them essentially two simpler to calculate ? N.B. You would have to add another bias resister for the Common Collector stage of course.

    • @eie_for_you
      @eie_for_you  10 місяців тому

      Good question! Yes, you could do this, but it would add a frequency response aspect to the design that doesn't exist with direct coupled design. The frequency response would drop off more sharply at the low end; the low end will also suffer because of the bypass capacitor in the emitter. The smaller the capacitor value, the sooner the gain will begin to drop as we go down in frequency.
      One other aspect is that, from an A.C. perspective, the loading effects of the second common-collector stage cannot be ignored. So, you have to deal with it anyway, just not in the D.C. design.
      So, you are right, but there is a price to pay, so to speak.
      One of the reasons I did a direct coupled design for this video was to demonstrate how to deal with the effect of circuit loading🙂

    • @paulperano9236
      @paulperano9236 10 місяців тому

      @@eie_for_you Basically, "There's no such thing as a free lunch"

    • @eie_for_you
      @eie_for_you  10 місяців тому

      @@paulperano9236True that!

  • @Old_Coder
    @Old_Coder 2 місяці тому

    I'm puzzled . . . in LTspice yes you indeed get approx. 5v output for a 50mV input. But if you add an isolating capacitor to the emitter of Q2 and a 10 Ohm resistor down to ground (imitating a 10 Ohm speaker) then the output falls to mV and is distorted. Is this a practical design or does it need an additional push pull output stage?

    • @eie_for_you
      @eie_for_you  2 місяці тому

      Well ... it isn't designed to drive a low impedance like a 10 Ohm speaker. Remember, the input impedance of the stage to follow or the load impedance appears in parallel with the collector resistor of the driving stage to create the actual collector resistor value in the design.
      This could be an inter-stage amplifier inside a larger amplifier or other such application where it is driving a high impedance load. So, yes, you *would* need some sort of push-pull speaker driver stage if you want to drive a 10 Ohm speaker.
      This video is an example of how to do the design of this sort of amplifier. It is up to the designer to apply this process to their particular application.🙂

    • @Old_Coder
      @Old_Coder 2 місяці тому

      Thank you . .I've got that. I see my 10 Ohm resistor seriously reduced the effective AC resistance of the previous collector resistor so that the gain was reduced to almost nothing. I will now try for my own satisfaction to add a push pull output as an exercise.

    • @eie_for_you
      @eie_for_you  2 місяці тому

      @@Old_Coder Perfect! Have fun! 🙂

  • @rtybn2012
    @rtybn2012 11 місяців тому

    Any thoughts about a video using test equipment, audio and RF signal generators and of course an oscilloscopes?

    • @eie_for_you
      @eie_for_you  11 місяців тому

      Well...I do have a number of videos on using test equipment. Scopes, VNAs, Spectrum Analyzers, Antenna Analyzers and the like.
      Here is the link to the first one on using an oscilloscope (the tour, what is what): ua-cam.com/video/1Sq4L2x4lfU/v-deo.html
      and the second one (making measurements): ua-cam.com/video/G5-IJkoW2lE/v-deo.html
      Hope this helps. 🙂

    • @rtybn2012
      @rtybn2012 11 місяців тому +1

      You list a total of 162 video's but there are only 70 that are accessible.

    • @eie_for_you
      @eie_for_you  11 місяців тому

      @@rtybn2012??? I just went to another browser (not signed in as me...or anyone), went to my channel, clicked on the "Videos" tab as opposed to the "Home" tab. I scrolled down and counted 162 videos.
      So, this has me puzzled. 😕 I think the home tab has a subset of the whole.

  • @suhasdotcom
    @suhasdotcom 6 місяців тому

    I really wish that electronics was taught like this in college.

    • @eie_for_you
      @eie_for_you  6 місяців тому

      Thank you so much! 🙂
      I was very fortunate because the professor who taught this course at Syracuse University when I was there was really good and walked through things this same way. One of the differences is that we often would populate matrices and perform linear algebra to solve for circuit values using the mainframe computer and the APL programming language. I have **LONG** since forgot how to do it that way. 🙂