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Who is the Best Player of ALL TIME in MLBB?? 👀🔥

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  • Опубліковано 17 лис 2023
  • One of the biggest debates of the year: who deserves to be in the top 10 spot of Best MLBB Players? As we go into the playoffs of MPLI 2023, we asked a few pro MLBB players and personalities who they feel is the GOAT for MLBB.
    Which pro gamer do you agree with?
    Thank you to KyleTzy, Bennyqt, KarlTzy, MP the King, Raa, Hoon, Aeterna, Clara Mongstar, Xorn, Mirko, Momochan, Kimpoy, Rose, Pheww, Demonkite, Maro & Bestplayer1 for joining us!
    Hosted by Wolf Nopueto (@/wolfcasts)
    #mlbb #mpli #mpli2023 #goat

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  • @dwaeji_07
    @dwaeji_07 9 місяців тому +234

    It's good to see Karl, Pheww, VeeWise and Kairi being mentioned. They all deserved it. Plus they brought a lot of pride in PH from the MLBB tournas.

    • @ZEKEEEQT
      @ZEKEEEQT 8 місяців тому

      Kairi doesn't deserve it lol gtfoh

    • @futurpilotopaul
      @futurpilotopaul Місяць тому

      Yes and they're all in the hall of legends Which is great to cement thier legendary career ❤

  • @ml_records4975
    @ml_records4975 9 місяців тому +24

    When the question is "who is the best player of ALL TIME?" and some said Kairi - I think he is the best player in This Time but not Best Player of All Time Yet. In terms of achievements and skills, I have KarlTzy and Pheww as a contender.

  • @davenstone2393
    @davenstone2393 9 місяців тому +71

    Karl, phew and vee are on the top, achievements, impact in international community and skills. Kairi might be the best right now but its still along way for him to say he is the goat

    • @jangnoise9709
      @jangnoise9709 9 місяців тому +2

      Yes I agree,kai best player for right now,but for all time,karl and pheww

    • @riri2803
      @riri2803 6 місяців тому +1

      @@jangnoise9709
      Kairi is the best player in Indonesia. Against PH team, he aint that.

  • @Sy8mir
    @Sy8mir 9 місяців тому +163

    Im not Mielow! Hahaha hoon hoon😊

  • @issuccl3mon551
    @issuccl3mon551 9 місяців тому +94

    Karltzy's achievements will speak for itself, Like being the M2 and M4 champ with 2 different play style, he Won M2 using carry jungler and In M4 he is using utility jungler. END OF ARGUMENT no one comes close

    • @kennadrian673
      @kennadrian673 8 місяців тому +2

      Surprising how no veewise and kairi meat riders isn't arguing with you

    • @issuccl3mon551
      @issuccl3mon551 8 місяців тому +1

      @@kennadrian673 yeah but right now i think 3 individuals is competing for the GOAT status, and for its Karltzy, Pheww and Flap

    • @s57lv
      @s57lv 8 місяців тому

      ong

    • @kennadrian673
      @kennadrian673 8 місяців тому +1

      @@issuccl3mon551 ribo is still the goat for having the most unique achievements but looking at his career now, he will most likely to be overtaken already.

    • @riri2803
      @riri2803 6 місяців тому +1

      @@kennadrian673
      Karl over Ribo as Karl is miles better than Ribo. The best player of all-time is KarlTzy.

  • @Eecky
    @Eecky 9 місяців тому +89

    The goat debate ended as soon as mielow steps on stage

    • @gracebl2162
      @gracebl2162 9 місяців тому +3

      After all the controversial statements made by Mielow he definitely outshined everyone hahahaha

  • @blackleg4789
    @blackleg4789 9 місяців тому +19

    "ALL TIME" Karltzy, Pheww or VW are the only choices on this debate. And take note even Moonton recognized Karltzy as The GOAT.

  • @KnyawPoe-hd5th
    @KnyawPoe-hd5th 9 місяців тому +159

    For me is Mielow from TOB because he is better than all indo exp, he join TOB and TOB win NACT for the first time.He make history for NA and TOB for getting out of group stage for the first time in sea and first NA team to get knock out in playoff by Cambodia 😂 the GOAT Mielow 🐐

  • @riri2803
    @riri2803 9 місяців тому +252

    KarlTzy is the BEST player of all-time.
    It's not just because of his achievements, but because of his skills. His achievements are there because of his skills and how good he plays. The guy is the leader and the best player in all of his championship teams.
    He's the best hypercarry of all-time and now the best utility jungler of all-time.
    Leads MPL PH in all-time kills, Double Kills, Triple Kills, and Maniacs.
    Leads MPL PH in all-time Turtle and Lord takes. Whether getting kills or securing objectives, the guy is NUMBER ONE.
    Perfect combination of insane skills, team success, and individual achievements.
    Plays in the STRONGEST REGION, and the BEST PLAYER IN THE STRONGEST REGION.
    No one is really close.

    • @juswatv94
      @juswatv94 9 місяців тому +3

      Pinoy fried

    • @riri2803
      @riri2803 9 місяців тому +26

      @@juswatv94
      Much better than Indo fried. MPLI early exits.

    • @2ez4Kai
      @2ez4Kai 9 місяців тому +9

      @@riri2803ur statement of Kairi looking strong playing in the weaker region makes sense and would apply to a lot of teams like for example: TOB looking strong in NA but would look mediocre at BEST internationally or let’s say MPL PH. However ur statement is invalid towards ONIC since ECHO and BLCK were not able to beat ONIC at MSC. ONIC in the S11 meta was unbeatable. ONIC was simply the best team during the S11-MSC meta so it wouldn’t matter regardless of what region they played in lol.

    • @riri2803
      @riri2803 9 місяців тому +6

      @@2ez4Kai
      S11 meta was still the Echo M4 meta. You're talking about MSC meta when the meta shifted drastically and the emblems got revamped. It happened after S11 and only a few weeks before MSC.

    • @plc9359
      @plc9359 9 місяців тому +8

      “No one is really close?” Veewise has the most trophies in MLBB history. So that’s arguable. Greatest player is karltzy, greatest duo is veewise. Karltzy adapts to the meta, veewise ceates the meta.

  • @draspen
    @draspen 9 місяців тому +17

    Momochan is probably Vee's number 1 fan outside the Philippines. She's just too loyal on Veenus.

  • @mangjose7027
    @mangjose7027 9 місяців тому +82

    Kairi has a good resume but he still has a lot to prove. So I think for now, It's Carl because of his achievements.

    • @PiaGia-ld8ue
      @PiaGia-ld8ue 9 місяців тому +9

      winning in id doesnt say much either lol in ph he didnt win any says much about the competitive diff between the two regions, put onic in mpl ph I bet they'd be below top 4

    • @keneisolozzz7686
      @keneisolozzz7686 9 місяців тому +4

      ​@@PiaGia-ld8ue below top 4? Who won MSc? Guess they beat non Phillipines teams only lol give credit where it's due PERIOD!!!

    • @Lazy14000
      @Lazy14000 9 місяців тому +6

      ​@@keneisolozzz7686they won't last to teams who can adjust to playstyles like Omega, Veewise Blck or RSG with Demonkite

    • @PiaGia-ld8ue
      @PiaGia-ld8ue 9 місяців тому +6

      @@keneisolozzz7686 defeated a careless echo and blck with two rookies? lmao still below top 4 winning MSC is just a fluke lol

    • @PiaGia-ld8ue
      @PiaGia-ld8ue 9 місяців тому +2

      @@keneisolozzz7686 Onic's just looking strong in ID coz everyone's below MDL ph level

  • @Pierre359
    @Pierre359 9 місяців тому +162

    If you talk about Goat then it's definitely Karl but the best jungler right now is kairi imo

    • @jeromegunatisi2005
      @jeromegunatisi2005 9 місяців тому +20

      Agree but topic is goat

    • @technoswitch3296
      @technoswitch3296 9 місяців тому +6

      It's meilow for all period

    • @mr.nobody5049
      @mr.nobody5049 9 місяців тому +10

      No it's mobazane according to
      mr gif 😂

    • @Pierre359
      @Pierre359 9 місяців тому +3

      @@mr.nobody5049 agreed🤣🤣

    • @dreamcatcher_13449
      @dreamcatcher_13449 9 місяців тому

      the question is subjective,so any answer for yourself is correct,,hahah

  • @msgeen
    @msgeen 9 місяців тому +68

    MSC and Snapdragon alone don't make you a GOAT. It's the culmination of achievements and influence you set for years that makes you the best player of all time. Karl, Pheww, and VeeWise are the strongest contenders for this.

    • @Minazuki22
      @Minazuki22 9 місяців тому +2

      Are you too scared to mention kairi? You are talking about kairi yeah?

    • @malcampovincekhalilp.6719
      @malcampovincekhalilp.6719 9 місяців тому +2

      There's Ribo as well man

    • @Minazuki22
      @Minazuki22 9 місяців тому

      @@malcampovincekhalilp.6719 please lets keep all the jokes aside when we r on a serious topic.

    • @gamingwithsamaritanarmy4705
      @gamingwithsamaritanarmy4705 9 місяців тому

      Agree with all but accept that veewise who betrayed mlbb and a goat player who can play only support as a roamer😂😂😂😂

    • @BeatMaxZ
      @BeatMaxZ 9 місяців тому

      it is so sadddd because Moontoon doesn't want to recognize VeeWise achievements

  • @Bruh-uo2se
    @Bruh-uo2se 9 місяців тому +58

    Not only did Karltzy achieve more than anyone them but he's also the most versatile one out of them all. The GOAT! Although my personal all-time favourite would be BREN Yuji..he was a monster! I don't think many would remember him.

    • @Sxth.
      @Sxth. 9 місяців тому

      He won 2 worlds sa different meta and till now consistent padin kahit di na assasin man hahaha

    • @kenpachids
      @kenpachids 9 місяців тому +1

      Mage Dad Yuji 👌

    • @plc9359
      @plc9359 9 місяців тому +3

      “Achieve more than anyone” bro veewise literally has the trophies in MLBB history. Karl won a total of 5 times, veewise 7 times. Check your data. But yes karl is the greatest player, veewise is the greatest duo.

    • @gilbertalconera5635
      @gilbertalconera5635 9 місяців тому +2

      ​@@kenpachidsachievements ill go with Ribo, bcoz he has gold medal, M world, MSC, and 2 time MPL than yuji

    • @jhonpaultenorio4556
      @jhonpaultenorio4556 9 місяців тому

      ​@@plc9359what are those 7 wins of veewise?

  • @djbbybnz4444
    @djbbybnz4444 9 місяців тому +11

    Not to hate on anyone and don't get me wrong. But the question is OF ALL TIME. Not the best RIGHT NOW. You can't say a player is THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME just base on one season, tournament, even a year.

  • @JijiFor
    @JijiFor 9 місяців тому +93

    In my opinion, GOAT has done a lot of achievements in the past major tournaments with great contributions in the team, so I will go with either OhMyVeenus or Karltzy.

    • @krisg8403
      @krisg8403 9 місяців тому +3

      If you talk about achievements, it's Pheww

    • @harvs14.
      @harvs14. 9 місяців тому +11

      Yeah kairi is definitely the strongest jungler now. But if we're taking about achievements it's either karl, pheww,, veewise

    • @aziqadly1717
      @aziqadly1717 9 місяців тому

      It's Ribo dude he won m2 seagames msc...

    • @MR.X-uy2nl
      @MR.X-uy2nl 9 місяців тому

      Lemon alien bang

    • @wesleytalidano1918
      @wesleytalidano1918 9 місяців тому

      @@MR.X-uy2nl yeah lemon alien jupiter no 1 kagura bang 😂trash player

  • @carllouisealmazan1556
    @carllouisealmazan1556 9 місяців тому +9

    Achievements reflect skills. All of the mentioned are the real GOATS of MLBB. U can't deny the stats and recognition coming from those players and caster. They knew too well.

  • @A.d.O.n
    @A.d.O.n 9 місяців тому +13

    it's between Karltzy, Pheww, Ribo and Veewise.

  • @TitoHopia
    @TitoHopia 9 місяців тому +8

    KARLTZY, no questions. Already has 2 M-series championships.. kairi not even close😂

    • @draca941
      @draca941 8 місяців тому

      kairi No achievement and No champion in MPL phil hahahaha

  • @meijiegaming.998
    @meijiegaming.998 9 місяців тому +9

    Guys we know that, we can’t pick KAIRI when it comes to GOAT topic. But the best jungler right now YES.

  • @dreitiu6516
    @dreitiu6516 8 місяців тому +7

    It is undeniable that Kairi is the best player as of now. But the keyword was G.O.A.T. and achievement wise the only possible answers could only be Pheww, Karltzy, Ribo, VeeWise. I'm still hoping that Kairi would be considered as GOAT soon if he would get a lot of international titles.

  • @VoydVelasco
    @VoydVelasco 9 місяців тому +21

    If Bren win M5, there is no doubt that Pheww is the GOAT. He is cosistent even he play since season 1.

    • @fmmc833
      @fmmc833 9 місяців тому +3

      agreed but kairi n onic gonna win this M5

    • @brixflores4178
      @brixflores4178 9 місяців тому +1

      @@fmmc833 not when they struggled against that same Geekfam, i lose hope for them

    • @fmmc833
      @fmmc833 9 місяців тому

      @@brixflores4178 in what way did they struggle against geek?

    • @fmmc833
      @fmmc833 9 місяців тому

      @@brixflores4178 well lose your ur hope now n be surprise later.. in onic theres 3 current best player in mlbb right now and thats kairi,sanz n kiboy.. i mean its not that hard to predict whos goin to take that m5

    • @meijiegaming.998
      @meijiegaming.998 9 місяців тому +1

      @@fmmc833😂😂😂😂😂 dont cry later. All teams has eyes on ONIC ID. Its a big big pressure to Coach Yeb. If they not win in M5 i think they will not get the M6. Because this is the very pressure year for ONIC ID and they know it. Thats why they not go to MPLI to focus in M5. They 10000% focus and if they not win the M5 i dont know what Kairi and coach Yeb doing after that loss. They have the top 4 tier player in INDO ID, and they have the best jungle RIGHT NOW. I dont know i bet in ONIC in MSC and i won but this M5 i dont know man. I hope but i dont really know whos gonna win.

  • @hanzo2238
    @hanzo2238 9 місяців тому +32

    I remember watching karltzy before he was a midlaner then i saw him again on m2 carrying his team to victory, i missed how he was so good on assassins before 😢

    • @DryEther
      @DryEther 9 місяців тому +4

      He's still good fkin consistent goat kairi not even close till now

    • @solutionorange2224
      @solutionorange2224 9 місяців тому

      Yah for now kairi assasins too good

    • @AZ-cj8du
      @AZ-cj8du 9 місяців тому

      wdym " he was so good on assassins before"????...he still is

    • @hanzo2238
      @hanzo2238 9 місяців тому +3

      @@AZ-cj8du karltzy uses utility jungler now, i wish funnel strategy would come back as meta so we can see karltzy uses assasin again ☺️

    • @Tach2134
      @Tach2134 9 місяців тому

      now kairi is better. @@DryEther

  • @yellyhayce9612
    @yellyhayce9612 9 місяців тому +56

    off the top of my head, this would be the top 5 and kairi would be in the 6-8 range. He is amazing, probably the best player at the moment, but he needs to have those international achievements (m series, msc, or sea games)
    1. Karltzy
    2. Pheww
    3. OhMyV33nus
    4. Wise
    5. Ribo

    • @PiaGia-ld8ue
      @PiaGia-ld8ue 9 місяців тому +1

      same thoughts

    • @MR.X-uy2nl
      @MR.X-uy2nl 9 місяців тому +1

      Mana lemon bang

    • @wesleytalidano1918
      @wesleytalidano1918 9 місяців тому +7

      @@MR.X-uy2nllemon and what achievements? Any mseries msc? Hahahaha only local

    • @wesleytalidano1918
      @wesleytalidano1918 9 місяців тому +2

      @@MR.X-uy2nlover praised lemon not even that good of a player 😂what international achievement? Indo indo believes such sweet lies bro lemon is not that good amateur player even casual player in ph is better than him lol

    • @MR.X-uy2nl
      @MR.X-uy2nl 9 місяців тому

      @@wesleytalidano1918 lemon juara dunia sea coc, juara mpli, juara mpl id 4x 😎

  • @Ku7cksaka
    @Ku7cksaka 9 місяців тому +9

    you know someone is disgustingly good when he doesnt have half the titles these world champs have but is still considered to be lined up with them

    • @ONEEsports
      @ONEEsports  9 місяців тому

      not about the achievements, but the skills! 🥰

    • @davefernando4262
      @davefernando4262 9 місяців тому +1

      they dont know the difference of current best and all time best

    • @FlyingDutch890
      @FlyingDutch890 9 місяців тому

      @@ONEEsports Lol the question was best of all time? U mean goat right. Idiot!

    • @pwat6311
      @pwat6311 9 місяців тому +3

      ​@@ONEEsportswhere talking about goat..
      Not one of the best..lmao

    • @PiaGia-ld8ue
      @PiaGia-ld8ue 9 місяців тому

      it's just they dont know the real meaning of GOAT nothing else

  • @replied631
    @replied631 9 місяців тому +18

    Momocha really loves the queen

  • @ice.lex3526
    @ice.lex3526 9 місяців тому +12

    IF KARLTZY MANAGES TO WIN THIS MPLI 2023 TITLE, THE ONLY TITLE LEFT FOR HIM TO ACHIEVE WOULD BE THE MSC TITLE.

    • @vincentiusliemawan1735
      @vincentiusliemawan1735 8 місяців тому +1

      kairi literally has msc,mpli 2x if he won m5 then all is done

    • @jincbf
      @jincbf 8 місяців тому

      ​@@vincentiusliemawan1735 dont foget about snapdragon aswell, treble incoming

    • @riri2803
      @riri2803 6 місяців тому +1

      @@vincentiusliemawan1735
      KarlTzy has two World Championships, 2 MPL titles in the strongest region, and a SEA Games Gold Medal plus multiple MVPs. What 'done' are you talking about?

  • @user-kf9yw2dz4w
    @user-kf9yw2dz4w 9 місяців тому +3

    These people should comprehend what Best Player of ALL TIME first before answering a question.

  • @BedwarsPro12389
    @BedwarsPro12389 9 місяців тому +4

    Welp many says it KAIRI but in terms of achievements and consistency it's KARLTZY he's the GOAT 🐐🔥

  • @SimpGodHoon
    @SimpGodHoon 8 місяців тому +3

    Momo's pick is also good, v33wise makes the support popular(UBE strat) and wise with his tank jungler meta

  • @prof_jesus
    @prof_jesus 8 місяців тому +2

    The record speaks for itself. Statistics don't lie. No recency bias to mention. It's Karltzy without a shadow of a doubt. If you want you can look at the records, and I mean ALL the records.

  • @kngmtmin
    @kngmtmin 9 місяців тому +12

    Everyone is forgetting the 'Agent Zero' Edwad.

    • @PiaGia-ld8ue
      @PiaGia-ld8ue 9 місяців тому

      top 2 best exp for sure but not yet on GOAT status

    • @Sxth.
      @Sxth. 9 місяців тому +3

      For sure edward best xp laner of all time. Siguro yung goat convo kasi kasama na din influence and impact sa ml community kaya puro si karl, pheew and veewise 🫡

    • @MR.X-uy2nl
      @MR.X-uy2nl 9 місяців тому

      Masi ada lemon

    • @rxxyan
      @rxxyan 9 місяців тому

      ​@@MR.X-uy2nlwho tf is lemon, lemons is a trash

    • @mizzdizz4419
      @mizzdizz4419 9 місяців тому +1

      ​@@PiaGia-ld8ueTop2? he's considered the Greatest EXP laner of all time even by the pros. who's the top 1? 😶

  • @jhonpaultenorio4556
    @jhonpaultenorio4556 9 місяців тому +19

    Greatest of all time
    These are their unique achievements
    Ribo - won all major tournaments
    Karltzy - 2time m series
    Phew - 3 time mpl-ph and 2 time seagames
    Veenus and wise - 3time mpl-ph 3 time final apearance in m series(won1)
    The only thing ribo is still in the list because all of the top 4 doesnt have msc champ
    I saw someone still commenting lemon, who doesnt have msc and m series lol

  • @Lazy14000
    @Lazy14000 9 місяців тому +12

    There so many beast before in ph like Yuji, Pheww, Veenus, Karltzy, and more who deserves some credits.
    RubyDD is insane, Albert is phemomenal, Lemon, Rafflesia, KielvJ, etc

    • @morizal6535
      @morizal6535 9 місяців тому +2

      Even from an Albert fans myself, if we’re talking about greatest of all time, i dont want anybody to put Albert in the same sentence as Pheww, Karl, and Veenus. Yes Albert is phenomenal but even in his peak he’s never really come close to achieving what does 3 player already has. There is an obvious reason he isn’t in the MLBB Greatest of All Time Award

  • @plokplok307
    @plokplok307 8 місяців тому +2

    KarlTzy.. he is a winner wherever team he goes that shows how versatile he is and can adapt what environment he have while Veewise only dominate with the same team..true greatness dominate wherever he goes and what ever team he got.

  • @moonconsulta
    @moonconsulta 9 місяців тому +8

    KarlTzy is the current G.O.A.T. but if Phew (BREN) wins M5, he becomes the clear G.O.A.T.
    But honestly, right now, Kairi is the best MLBB player on the planet (regardless of positions or regions).

    • @danielvanlalhruai4816
      @danielvanlalhruai4816 8 місяців тому

      But then Pheww and Flap will be 2 times m champion while Karl is already 2 times. So I would say If Bren win this Pheww and Flap will be exactly on Karl's level

  • @bonggwapo6662
    @bonggwapo6662 9 місяців тому +7

    no one mentioned Doc Ribo 😢 the real Goat
    -MSC champ 2018
    -M2 Champ
    -Sea games Gold medalist
    -2 time MPL ph champ

  • @jvespelita7497
    @jvespelita7497 9 місяців тому +5

    For me karltzy because kairi when he play here in PH he just an ordinary jungler the reason why he looks so good because he is playing in weak region thats on my observation

    • @adaymarco6318
      @adaymarco6318 8 місяців тому +1

      yeah, demonkite owned him in his last season in mpl ph

    • @NSKTinnoblez
      @NSKTinnoblez 8 місяців тому

      Explain why he dominated echo(with karltzy) before if he plays on a weaker region? Doesnt make sense

    • @riri2803
      @riri2803 8 місяців тому +1

      @@NSKTinnoblez
      Dominated Karl? Kairi almost always loses to Karl in terms of the jungle battle back in PH.

  • @raiyan
    @raiyan 9 місяців тому +6

    Definitely for me either Phew, Ribo, Jaypee or Hadji
    They have achievement, multi role that can play almost any role effectively and can play any hero

  • @fjasonortiaga
    @fjasonortiaga 9 місяців тому +1

    The question was who is the best of ALL TIME ..not the current best player but were talking their whole career ..including the achievements and skills ..Karltzy won 2 World Championships while kairi doesnt but if he can won the M5 and use another jungler heroes aside of assasins, then maybe we can have a debate.

  • @johnpaulpanton6595
    @johnpaulpanton6595 8 місяців тому +3

    First of all, kairi is one hell of a player even he was still in the Philippines. Even though he didn’t win any MPL Ph titles even after he transferred to different teams, A lot of potential was seen in him that’s why Onic Indonesia wanted so bad to import him. in fact I think he is the best there is that ever step foot in the MPL Indonesia even though he is a Filipino. However, when kairi was still playing in the Philippines he wasn’t able to carry his team to the finals even though back then it was still during the assassin meta, which was his favorite heroes to choose, but after he transferred to Indonesia he is able to consistently win in the MPL Indonesia. I think that speaks a lot how he is able to shine when the competition is not as intense or as competitive compared in the Philippines.

    • @raissaw3080
      @raissaw3080 8 місяців тому

      From your statement, isn't it possible that it means that he just fits better in his new team (onic Id) in which he is able to synergize more with them and that led to him being able to shine even more and show off all of his skill? Cause even in msc and snapdragon, they were able to defeat all the top PH team as well, so I think it might be possible that his gameplay and carry style is more fit with onic id

    • @riri2803
      @riri2803 8 місяців тому

      @@raissaw3080
      No. Kairi was able to look 'that' good because he's playing in a weaker region. Against PH teams, he looks beatable and controlled. Against ID teams, he looks like a god. See the difference?

    • @raissaw3080
      @raissaw3080 8 місяців тому

      @@riri2803 What do you mean? Kairi won against top PH teams during msc and snapdragon, I personally think he just improved from when he was still playing in PH, I'm not saying he can just outright beat all ph teams if he goes back to playing in PH but the fact that he can beat top PH teams in recent competitions, I think it's safe to say he definitely is up there with the best players

    • @riri2803
      @riri2803 8 місяців тому

      @@raissaw3080
      Bruh, didn't you read? Yes, they won against PH teams but Kairi didn't look as good as he looked in MPL ID, mainly due to the level of competition. He needs his teammates to step up against PH teams compared to MPL ID where he can solo carry.

    • @raissaw3080
      @raissaw3080 8 місяців тому

      @@riri2803 bro honestly I don't even want to argue with a random person on the internet, I don't even know kairi personally to want to defend him that much, I just personally think his skill still looked pretty damn good in msc when he fought against ph teams, I agree that he needs his teammates when fighting against ph teams, but I think he still played damn well in msc, currently in M5 he is playing not as good though so far so eh

  • @jumangekyo1667
    @jumangekyo1667 8 місяців тому +3

    As Malaysian i admire Lemon since i saw his kagura

  • @AZ-cj8du
    @AZ-cj8du 9 місяців тому +2

    People are sleeping sooooo hard on Pheww imo....Fun fact, He and Karltzy are the only players that has won every class A-S tournaments in the MLBB world....Those 2 are now on tie...whoever wins the MPLI or M5 will be the clear GOAT

    • @tingomlungnyei4598
      @tingomlungnyei4598 9 місяців тому

      Not MSC yup the rest theh won all..

    • @vincentiusliemawan1735
      @vincentiusliemawan1735 8 місяців тому

      well kairi has msc,mpli 2x in a row, if he won this m5 probably he is the goat

  • @RoyTravels
    @RoyTravels 8 місяців тому +1

    Veenus. Matalino nagiisip talga
    Edward. Hanap memorize niya mga gamit niyang hero
    Wise. Unique style. Lagging siya nauuna sa mga hero na pwede lng pang jungle
    Actually buying team ng blacklist.

  • @blackleg4789
    @blackleg4789 9 місяців тому +4

    Time has been bias on Kairi in this debate😂 your boy hasn't won any M-series yet. Yeah we could say they are the strongest team this season but so is BL in M3 seasons, Bren in M2, they are dominating too in that time so...

  • @JeffreyBalanay-gf8ls
    @JeffreyBalanay-gf8ls 9 місяців тому +4

    Kairi is really the strongest jungler now, but by achievement karltzy

    • @draca941
      @draca941 8 місяців тому

      But kairi no MPL phil.champion or achievement in the phil.😂😂😂

  • @healermobius
    @healermobius 9 місяців тому +2

    They didn't understand the question hahaha

  • @dstin3759
    @dstin3759 8 місяців тому +1

    Bro Karltzy won the M-series in 2 different teams. Do you think Kairi can win major tournaments having different team members? Let that sink in. GOAT - Karltzy

  • @Amanrio7
    @Amanrio7 9 місяців тому +7

    Let’s think this through guys. Only looking at pure raw skills no one beats kairi but if we look at achievements no one beats Karl or you could say veewise as well so the obvious answer is Mielow the “GOAT”.

    • @PiaGia-ld8ue
      @PiaGia-ld8ue 9 місяців тому

      prime Karltzy > prime Kairi

    • @MR.X-uy2nl
      @MR.X-uy2nl 9 місяців тому

      Lemon alien bang

    • @2ez4Kai
      @2ez4Kai 9 місяців тому

      @@PiaGia-ld8uethe season Karl won M2 where it was hypercarry meta was the season Kairi DEBUTED lol. Right now in the current and recent past metas, assassins take way more skill and are harder to pull off. Assassins were way easier to play back in the M2 meta. Karl debuted seasons before Kairi did so he reached his prime earlier. Although Kairi hasn’t won M-series yet, skillwise I’d go for him INDIVIDUALLY. Team player and GOAT, I’d have to agree it’s Karl. However PRIME? It’s debatable.

    • @riri2803
      @riri2803 9 місяців тому +4

      @@2ez4Kai
      Kairi looks the strongest because he is in a weaker region. He never dominated like this when he was in PH and that's because the competition was crazy. He's always been behind Karl, and still is.

    • @2ez4Kai
      @2ez4Kai 9 місяців тому +1

      @@riri2803Kairis 2nd season playing jungle (S7 don’t count since Hate was jg) in MPL PH, he was runner up and eventually runner up in M3. That was PRIME BLCK meta which counters ONIC PH. He definitely has huge potential where at that time Karl didn’t have much success at all LMAO. However in S9, the meta took a huge shift which impacted Kairi and Karl’s playstyle and they both didn’t have much success. Kairi was insane with that for his first couple seasons. He is now much more IMPROVED and has gotten a better team lol. Some ppl get better over time, some get worse. ONIC won MSC but I’m not delusional and know that MPL PH > MPL ID. ONIC is just an anomaly that improved and beat the best PH teams playing against weaker opponents in ID lol. If ONIC was in MPL PH, they would definitely be top 3.

  • @nurazispratama
    @nurazispratama 9 місяців тому +9

    Bro, I'm from Indonesia and admit that currently there are many PH players who are very good, while the Indonesian players are overrated.
    In my opinion, the best players in Indonesia are Oura (M1 MVP) or Udil (you still remember at MSC 2019, this kid said "it's easy man").
    When Clara part says Lemon, it's a big CRINGE.
    Without debate the GOAT is Karltzy. But for now Kairi so much potential is everyone's dreams he's handsome, smart, high mechanic, calculation.

    • @hasbisyahbani9186
      @hasbisyahbani9186 9 місяців тому +1

      Because indo player especially evos squad in m1 got retired or have a downgrade performance. Big respect for ph players for having consistency in every era. But i do know why bude said lemon, because she likes him haha. Bias, but its okay

    • @PiaGia-ld8ue
      @PiaGia-ld8ue 9 місяців тому

      if there is someone on par with Karl, it would be Pheww, VeeWise, Ribo, Flap, Hadji, Edward or Oheb not Kairi lmao

    • @MR.X-uy2nl
      @MR.X-uy2nl 9 місяців тому

      Lu penyefong ph harusnya milih lemon

    • @wesleytalidano1918
      @wesleytalidano1918 9 місяців тому

      @@MR.X-uy2nlshow his achievements first in international 😂if there’s none then go zip his pants up when ur done

    • @MR.X-uy2nl
      @MR.X-uy2nl 9 місяців тому

      @@wesleytalidano1918 lemon juara dunia sea coc >>>>> m series

  • @HatoriYamato08
    @HatoriYamato08 8 місяців тому +1

    Aside from all time pheww i think this time is kairi on and Karl.also veenus the meta game changer specially for support heroes.

  • @himig7944
    @himig7944 8 місяців тому +1

    Current best player must be Kairi? But we are talking about the GOAT? Either Pheww or Karltzy.

  • @Kazunori1104
    @Kazunori1104 9 місяців тому +4

    For me Pheww has a slight ahead over Karl for being the GOAT.
    2 Gold Medal Sea games
    1 M World Champ
    1 IESF World Champ
    2 MPL PH Champ
    From Core to Gold to Midlane.
    Only GOAT things 🐐

    • @riri2803
      @riri2803 8 місяців тому +1

      Karl is the better player though. Plus lots of championships as well.

    • @etaw4506
      @etaw4506 10 днів тому

      Karltzy is a gifted versatile player in any team that is one of their difference

    • @etaw4506
      @etaw4506 10 днів тому

      Karltzy is a gifted versatile player in any team that is one of their difference

  • @whin0079
    @whin0079 9 місяців тому +3

    xorn has sense of humor.. anyone who pick karl is in the right mind..
    the question is who is the greatest mlbb player of all time😅

  • @Ccsgshssbssbshs
    @Ccsgshssbssbshs 8 місяців тому +1

    Pheww and ribo is the the only 2 player that won every official tournament and yet they get snub

  • @Niv215
    @Niv215 9 місяців тому +1

    How can they claim it's Kairi when he hasn't won a single M-championship?
    While he's arguably the best jungler in the game "now" (although were talking 'OF ALL TIME'), his achievements don't compare to Karl, VeeWise, or Phew.

  • @user-zj7kf6mg7x
    @user-zj7kf6mg7x 9 місяців тому +3

    Momochan really loves OhmyVeenus 😊

  • @bungeegums
    @bungeegums 9 місяців тому +3

    Zane, who is the best player of all time?
    Zane: it’s Mobazane

  • @Todak321
    @Todak321 8 місяців тому +1

    Karltzy- 2 m series, seagames gold medalist
    Ribo- m2, seagames
    Flaptzy- m2, seagames, iesf
    Phew- m2, seagames 2x, iesf
    Veenus,wise, edward same achievements.
    Kairi only msc 2023,

  • @Arashish17
    @Arashish17 8 місяців тому +2

    Simps saying kairi
    Achievements saying Karl
    Mind saying pheww
    Heart saying Veewise.

  • @geraldsalonga7891
    @geraldsalonga7891 9 місяців тому +7

    karl definelty the goat achievement and stat

  • @skyleap2243
    @skyleap2243 9 місяців тому +5

    Kairi is not yet in the GOAT topic. Stats-wise and achievement-wise, its KarlTzy. Like what Rose said, "because he's the GOAT". But don't get me wrong, Kairi is undeniably one of the strongest junglers rn.

  • @NeoMLBB
    @NeoMLBB 3 місяці тому

    most Filipino players who are considered GOAT like Ribo, Pheww, and Karltzy actually came from just one team and used to play as a team which was BrenEsports and now APBren, they all came from their M2 lineup

  • @azrithsecret2165
    @azrithsecret2165 9 місяців тому +1

    "of all time" then its karl. Next would be veewise very consistent and always in the grand finals yeah they choked but being the 1st runner every season is kinda achievement. If Pheww get this m-series then he will take the crown as the goat.

  • @arnolfvisto8044
    @arnolfvisto8044 9 місяців тому +8

    Base on Achievements:
    1.KarlTzy
    2.Ohmyv33nus
    3.Wise
    4.Pheww
    5.Ribo
    6.Kairi
    7.Edward
    8.Hadji
    9.Yawi
    10.FlapTzy

    • @Todak321
      @Todak321 8 місяців тому

      Flaptzy and edward has more achievements than kairi..

    • @arnolfvisto8044
      @arnolfvisto8044 8 місяців тому +1

      @@Todak321 in edward maybe but kairi has more achievement than FLAPTZY.
      Being Top2 in M3,top 4 in M4,3peat MPL ID CHAMP,MSC CHAMP,ESL CHAMP.

    • @Todak321
      @Todak321 7 місяців тому

      @@arnolfvisto8044 flaptzy b4 m5 has 2 mpl ph, seagames 2 times, m series, oceana qualifier champ, iesf champ

  • @21_starboy
    @21_starboy 9 місяців тому +4

    1:39 😳😳🤣🤣

  • @mrgrangertv
    @mrgrangertv 8 місяців тому

    Answering the question without knowing whats the essence of the questions ask😅 hahhaa it's Karltzy

  • @jonarmondragon2508
    @jonarmondragon2508 8 місяців тому +1

    I think others can't get it actually if you take as much conversation of GOAT it's probably Karltzy for now because we don't see as much who chase like Pheww and Flaptzy, also if the VeeWise make their comeback to play mlbb again. To point out yes Kairi is the best jungler in the world now but in GOAT convo Kairi can't be include as much as their are many filipino contender such as Pheww, Flap and VeeWise. But Kairi is young so he can prove a lot to be a candidate for GOAT conversation

    • @jonarmondragon2508
      @jonarmondragon2508 8 місяців тому

      I have to add something RIBO can be a candidate for GOAT because of different achievements I think he might just need little achievements to prove, it might be the M-series or MSC

    • @riri2803
      @riri2803 Місяць тому

      @@jonarmondragon2508
      What you talking about? Ribo won M2 and MSC 2018 lol

  • @pauldm5222
    @pauldm5222 9 місяців тому +4

    Hard to choose between Karl or Vee (all-time) But right now, well it's Kairi but he's on par with these two.

    • @PiaGia-ld8ue
      @PiaGia-ld8ue 9 місяців тому +2

      how is he on par with those two? lmao winning in MPL ID is ez as fuck

    • @PiaGia-ld8ue
      @PiaGia-ld8ue 9 місяців тому

      2 M SERIES, 2 time MPL PH CHAMPION (HARDEST REGION TO PLAY AND WIN) AND SEA GAMES GOLD MEDALIST + INDIVIDUAL MVPs >>>>

    • @MR.X-uy2nl
      @MR.X-uy2nl 9 місяців тому

      Lemon aja bang

    • @2ez4Kai
      @2ez4Kai 9 місяців тому

      @@PiaGia-ld8ueif Karl goes to mpl id, he might not win mpl id despite it being the weaker region lol. Stats just don’t work like that.

    • @notchmonster3988
      @notchmonster3988 9 місяців тому

      Karl has 2 M trophies so he's the greatest player.

  • @dwighthilario1640
    @dwighthilario1640 9 місяців тому +3

    GOAT = KarlTzy or Pheww
    Current Strongest = Kairi

    • @kenjiagari3142
      @kenjiagari3142 9 місяців тому

      Yeah ph pride

    • @MR.X-uy2nl
      @MR.X-uy2nl 9 місяців тому

      Lemon alien bang

    • @kenjiagari3142
      @kenjiagari3142 9 місяців тому

      @@MR.X-uy2nl alien? The guy who can't win moonton tournament since mpl start🤣🤣

    • @MR.X-uy2nl
      @MR.X-uy2nl 9 місяців тому

      @@kenjiagari3142 lemon juara dunia sea coc,juara mpli,juara mpl id 4x 😎

    • @kenjiagari3142
      @kenjiagari3142 9 місяців тому

      @@MR.X-uy2nl local and small tournament since he play season1🤣🤣

  • @fjasonortiaga
    @fjasonortiaga 9 місяців тому +1

    The fact that theyre Goat comes from the Philippines means its not the end of Ph era

  • @marronatay9928
    @marronatay9928 9 місяців тому +1

    Mechanics wise, Kairi is the best MLBB player I've ever seen, 2nd is Karltzy and EDWARD they're equal, Skillset and Consistency and achievements.

    • @tsunkyun9649
      @tsunkyun9649 9 місяців тому

      Super agree on all of this

  • @glorytahj
    @glorytahj 9 місяців тому +5

    Saying Kairi is crazy 😭

    • @PiaGia-ld8ue
      @PiaGia-ld8ue 9 місяців тому +4

      truth, tho I'm a Filipino Kairi's not there yet
      Karl
      Pheww
      Ohmyvee
      Wise
      Ribo

    • @Sxth.
      @Sxth. 9 місяців тому

      He is on the way but it’s too early

    • @nooneknows4911
      @nooneknows4911 9 місяців тому

      Mahihirapan kumuha si kairi ng sibol kasi d nmn sya pede sumali sa dream team ng indo kasi d nmn sya indonesian kaya malayo pa sya sa katotohanan para matawag n goat

    • @plc9359
      @plc9359 9 місяців тому

      @@PiaGia-ld8uethe top 5 you mentioned are the best players based on achievements. Facts.

    • @PiaGia-ld8ue
      @PiaGia-ld8ue 9 місяців тому

      @@plc9359well one's achievements says a lot about his skills? right? and Karl did his 2 m series with 2 diff teams

  • @p1cs297
    @p1cs297 9 місяців тому +3

    Best jungler? Yes KAIRI!
    But best over all, I mean GOAT?
    It's between KARLTZY, VEEWISE AND PHEW!
    But still the best MLBB player of all time 🇵🇭

  • @senjin7025
    @senjin7025 9 місяців тому +1

    No arguments, It should be Karltzy, Pheww, and VeeWise. But I would say that it is Karl, No cap. We can just look at his world champion trophies, he is the only one sitting at top. He is the only 2 time world champion.
    When we say GOAT, "GREATEST PLAYER OF ALL TIME". We should look at the achievements and how the player had it. Some says Kairi over Karl, for sure now Kairi is better than Karl arguably but for All Time? Come on guys Karl have those Two Trophies that he looks when he is having break time. He have those TWO Ws (not Winner but WORLDS).

  • @etaw4506
    @etaw4506 10 днів тому

    Karltzy not only on achievements but he is a consistent reliable gifted versatile player

  • @keeonsammer3060
    @keeonsammer3060 9 місяців тому +1

    Achivement wise? Ribo definitely! Haha he got all major tittles (MPL, MSC,M2,SEA GAMES) Hes the only player holding that trophies

  • @stargenes03
    @stargenes03 9 місяців тому

    Thats it, no one mention Ribo. Most of pros know that its either Karltzy, Phew, and Veewise base on impact and achievements.

  • @pasta...
    @pasta... 9 місяців тому

    I think they misunderstood the question the interviewer ask who's the best all time not current best

  • @joshuaagorilla7926
    @joshuaagorilla7926 9 місяців тому +1

    Kairi is fantastic but he just recently showed off his skill. on the other hand Karltzy is still the two time M series champ

  • @notyourfan4763
    @notyourfan4763 9 місяців тому +2

    Its either pheww or karl, if pheww wins m5, no one can say either way. People who says kairi when he has no worlds achievement YET

  • @nashredder8516
    @nashredder8516 9 місяців тому +2

    I may not be a pro but i just want to share my rankings.
    1st - KarlTzy
    2nd - OhmyV33nus
    3rd - kairi
    4th - wise
    5th - phew and ribo
    6th - Ace

    • @draca941
      @draca941 8 місяців тому

      Kairi, No MPL phil champ. hahahahaa

    • @draca941
      @draca941 8 місяців тому

      1.Karl
      2.Phew
      3.Ribo
      4.Flat
      5.Wise
      6.Omyvenus

    • @nashredder8516
      @nashredder8516 6 місяців тому

      @@draca941 i based it on how they play not just on championships…

  • @Nick-Dragrus
    @Nick-Dragrus 5 місяців тому +1

    Currently, the game's competitive scene is still young, having people discuss the GOAT is too early. Perhaps best player or MVP, people can discuss but GOAT? Wait a few more years before we can discuss it further. IMO

  • @hakeemharun8177
    @hakeemharun8177 9 місяців тому +2

    Assassin Karltzy was a monster

  • @TheSkinnyTallandHandsome
    @TheSkinnyTallandHandsome 9 місяців тому +1

    Bestplayer said it best. Short n to the point!

  • @dusterinoman
    @dusterinoman 9 місяців тому

    the arguement of who's the best player of all time is this: who will we decide to play against an alien who threatens to destroy earth and will all depend on a mobile legends battle

  • @gillandalearts3041
    @gillandalearts3041 9 місяців тому +2

    Karltzy and veewise are really good. Karltzy is especially good these past few years but Karltzy vs Wise retri battle i will take Wise. Karltzy is younggoat but Wise is the retrigod

    • @riri2803
      @riri2803 8 місяців тому

      KarlTzy already beat Wise in the retri department.

  • @scarshadowofficial
    @scarshadowofficial 8 місяців тому

    Well, it's indeed KarlTzy since he's a 2x M series champ. A real GOAT. 🐐

  • @Ninetyninegaming99
    @Ninetyninegaming99 8 місяців тому

    People don’t understand the best jungler and the best player of all time ! It’s literally two different things.

  • @PioneerEditor
    @PioneerEditor 8 місяців тому +2

    Kairi = NO Mseries
    Karltzy = 2x M World Champ
    Veewise = SEA GOLD MEDALIST, M3 WORLD CHAMP

  • @BIeed69
    @BIeed69 9 місяців тому +1

    Meanwhile MobaCry punching the air bcoz no one mentioned him 🤭

  • @josephinfinity2553
    @josephinfinity2553 9 місяців тому +2

    This is for those who still dont understand what GOAT means.
    G.O.A.T= Greatest Of All Time

    • @OXONAKEPI
      @OXONAKEPI 9 місяців тому

      Naa bro Its means 🐐 as they can walk in steep hills.

  • @mka756
    @mka756 8 місяців тому +1

    Poor Clara she didn't know what is goat all about ...

  • @PadenFam09
    @PadenFam09 9 місяців тому +1

    Some of them didn't understand the meaning of Greatest of all time 😏

  • @DRIC159
    @DRIC159 7 місяців тому

    most of the people who answered kairi definitely didn't understood the question

  • @Z.Chhakchhuak
    @Z.Chhakchhuak 9 місяців тому +1

    aint rlly a fan of Karl but when we are talking about ALL TIME.. He is the GOAT whether we like it or not!!!!!..

  • @peterfile1719
    @peterfile1719 9 місяців тому +1

    Disrespectful to Mielow.......Clearly, he gapped them all in the Goat department. His achievements speak for themselves immensely.

  • @mobilelegends4813
    @mobilelegends4813 9 місяців тому

    Great idea! The new recall king and yawi wannabe in the thumbnail!

  • @Mielow.ExpGod
    @Mielow.ExpGod 9 місяців тому +1

    GOAT like me doesn't need any praising.. they no that they aren't yet qualified to utter my name. They respect me.. Cause am the best player in the world (The No 1exp laner in the world) .

  • @jakecalope9378
    @jakecalope9378 9 місяців тому +1

    But everyone forgotten the real GOAT. Doc Ribo😢