It is unbearable, but that doesn't seem to matter. I have thought of her everyday for 6 years now. I am HIGHLY PLUTONIC and she is not, but her Pluto conjuncts my Asc. I have had visions, signs, dreams that confirm this connection. If it was not for these strange signs, I could walk away. I am used to being in control of everything. I control nothing when it comes to her. Fortunately, I have set up boundaries to protect myself. She is my destruction that I crave more than anything. It is terrible!
And what is worst is that all this information only helps to understand the nature of the predicament, but it doesn’t take away the pain, cravings, anxiety, you name it…here I am the quintessential on and off through out 14 years, staying strong with the no contact, yet think about him every day to no end. I can relate to every single word you expressed. God bless
I cried when I learned I had a plutonic connection with my past person. I have a lot of my pluto aspect on his personal planets plus my pluto in scorpio oppose his ascendant in taurus. I can't control myself to not be obsessed with him. I decided to break away because I was overwhelmed with the power struggles between us. The moment I noticed he is no longer the happy person he used to be, I know I have to let him go. He don't want me to leave but it's not working out at all. Additionally, the cycle repeats but just with different person. I need to address something within me (being codependent and too controlling) so I can start healing. It is painful to move on but I don't want to stay and let each other die in the process. I remembered during the 1st month of getting to know each other, he felt like he meet me from past life. However, in my end, I only treated him as a friend but I was drawn to him no matter what. Thank you for the information. I'm a novice trying to understand our synastry and composite charts. ❤
I seem to have Pluto "magnets" in me, on me, around me. 3 in a row in the past 12 years. God, I'm done with Plutonian contacts only because I know precisely (and intimately) how they work, how they come to be, and how they end.
Not all Plutonians are bad. You just need to find those that are functioning maturely. I have Pluto conjunct Ascendant. My mere energy signature puts people off, even if I'm happy and enjoying myself. But I am also very kind and giving. I care about people. The problem with that is people often think that it means I'm weak, which activates my Pluto because they begin to try and dominate me. That doesn't end well though.
This is brilliant and so informative! We should all be taught about our charts in Elementary School. I am sure this knowledge would transform so many relationships on so many levels. It is our psyche our unconscious energetic drives and shows a whole other level of explaining mental illnesses. You have taken Astrology to a level that can really heal and help by making accessible the energies of the Planets the dark and the light. The pieces of what creates an ego and a personality are right in our birth charts. There is so much information just as much as DNA. Blessings and kudos to you MJ you truly are a gifted teacher. Thank You!
Definitely ppl confuse soul mate, karmic, and twin flame relationships too much! Twin flame connections are RARE extremely RARE most of us will never meet our twin flame in this lifetime Most of our relationships are karmic
My false twin and I had pluto square sun close orb synastry! I'm the pluto person and was the married one, so it makes sense! But after a year or so and not seeing each other, I realized that I misses him and was madly in love! He was in my dreams every night and I was heartbroken. Because of that, I awakened Spirituality and that was how my ascension started. Because he was my false twin, it faded after 7 years and we didn't have the need to contact each other anymore and I don't feel anything for him.
It’s interesting, because in evolutionariy astrology Jeffrey Wolfe Green sees Pluto as the most important planet, and the first planet, to look at when evaluating a chart. The person that I believe is my twin and I have quite a few Pluto aspects, and both of us are Plutonian. With Pluto squaring, both of our Mercury’s, our conversations are incredible. I recently. had Pluto transit over my sun and though it was intense I am so much more than before it. I know that, since this person came into my life, my journey with astrology became fast track in a way I don’t think I could’ve ever imagined. I’ve been watching the entire relationship unfold through astrology and there’s so much more than a platonic thing going on here. From our first meeting, to our last contact every single moment destined by the astrology. Our composite charge is incredibl we have the vertex conjunct the defendant , Eros and pysche conjunct in synastry. We have a tone of sacred geometry in our composure like a Solomon seal,, a mystical rectangle , Two kites, and moon in the 8th house. There’s so much more, I could go on it is absolutely fascinating. I would love to discuss.
Oh MJ, I hope those in this situation see this. This was my marriage. Wow, looking back from the first moment we met in person, I didn't want to be separated from him. It was the last 3 years of marriage that our relationship became toxic. When I walked away, he had no cares for me. I was heartbroken. A few years on, my ascension was expedited. I'm back on my path and learning lots. Thank you for shining your light. 🧡✨️🌹🌈
I appreciate the point of this video, but as a Scorpio rising, Moon, Neptune conjunct in Scorpio, and Pluto in Virgo, I find Scorpio has a positive side, too. I know the video is about the detriment of the Pluto/Mars connections, and maybe my life of self-improvement has changed my view, but, thankfully, I have a Buddhist practice that thrives on self-responsibility, and so does my Scorpio partner. Just representing the Scorpio point of view. :) Learning, thank you.
You’re amazingly great at interpreting, explaining and understanding the aspects and connections. Thank you for this video. This was life changing! Only, if you’re ready to comprehend what you’re saying though. The only video I’ve ever had to slow the speed on. I’m like “whoa slow down I’m not ready to hear this.” Yet you enlightened me on how Pluto can actually be positive even in a negative way if that even makes sense. This whole video is full of information for someone who isn’t/hasn’t been able to make sense of certain things if they’re ready to hear it. So excited to watch the twin flame stuff! Thank you, again!
I was listening to this and looking at my aspects in a couple different synastry charts..... Totally almost grabbed the mayonnaise instead of the butter to put on my toast when you mentioned Mars and Pluto
Ironic how astrologist have different opinions on aspects. I was just listening to someone who said the pluto square venus was the soul mate aspect. She said she had it with her husband and they were married within 2 months of meeting. I have 11 pluto aspects in synastry with a man. It's off the charts! We have: Pluto-Venus DW Pluto - Sun DW Pluto-Nodes DW Plus some! We're going to happen, no matter what the attraction is off the charts!
Im an aquarius sun, moon and virgo ascendant dating a scorpio sun, pisces moon, taurus ascendant. The synastry chart has my pluto conjunct his sun, my pluto trine his moon and If Im not mistaken his venus conjunct my pluto...I honestly feel I cant breathe sometimes. My pluto is in scorpio. He needs to know EVERYTHING Im feeling/ thinking - it feels like being psychoanalyzed instead of wooed. My whole day goes into this relationship- I love drawing, sewing, embroidery and I feel that all the things I enjoy are being taken away. I feel like Im being consummed and consumming him which is just not healthy.The sex? HORRIBLE. I feel sexually attracted to him but it feels unbalanced. I sense he uses this as a weapon. Im starting to resent him and I want to hurt him emotionally at this point. Ive tried to get out of the relationship twice but he goes ballistic. Im not happy- I dont feel like myself - I just want my mental peace back. I dont feel anything good can get out of this
Welp this makes a lot of sense. My last relationship had two separate Pluto aspects in our synastry charts… and I had both the personal planets on my end… so I felt it most. And it just makes a whole lot of sense. Right now I am in therapy and on this healing journey. It did strip a part of my light away, but I am finding it again
It’s sucks bc I truly love him, but the power struggle between us… were just sooo incredibly toxic. I don’t think I can ever get back with him.. it’s hard to move on from someone you truly love to your core, but it be too toxic to come back to. I don’t think it’s just synastry, I think it’s just being a human, and finding someone you really love. Yes it plays apart. BUT it also has to do with how you were raised, and who you are as an individual. Thank you for your video tho, you’re amazing!!!
I appreciate this and want to point out composite charts - combining both natal charts to determine the function of the relationship itself. There are also Pluto aspects that are healthy. My TF and I both have sun square Pluto in natal and synastry. It’s not negative, but it certainly aludes to the unspoken changes we both bring to each other just by our ego expression. It all depends on the awareness of both partners. There are other aspects (Saturn or Mars on the North Node) that would indicate a negative karmic bond, the asteroid Karma negatively aspected, etc. Overall I think you nailed it and I appreciate you veering into astrology. I value your insight and work. ❤️
We Have Venus Square Pluto But Also The Conjunction Both 0 Degree Orbs. But We Also Have All The Other Aspects That Sorta Mend This. Like Moon and Venus, Moon and Mercury, North Node Conjunct Vertex In 7th House, Moon Conjunct Neptune, Sun Square and Conjunct Pluto - Lots Of Double Whammys
Great video honestly. I should mention to everyone that please take what resonates with you. Also, your Ascendant represents the point in which your soul met your body. Your Ascendant maps out your entire birth chart and is the most personal to you. The way to remember this is to think about what it takes to calculate your Ascendant versus your Sun. Your Sun’s window is a month or about 30 days versus your Ascendants window which is only around a couple hours in a day. Or other words, the couple hours block of time that you entered this world.
Watching this today after being psychologically, physically, mentally, financially Ab^sed! My family and everyone who ever knew me watched me nearly die and they blamed me for apparently being the aggressor when they all know I’m far from that.. Heartbreaking experience for anyone in a relationship with EVERYTHING you spoke about!! 5yrs today since I married this Demonic man. 2 years since divorce and took me 2 years to heal! One year I locked myself in the house and Divine forcing me to unknowingly. I always say “I wish I knew astrology before this life threatning marriage” but it was for my highest good. THANK YOU 🙏 new subscriber ❤
I'm the pluto person I think, I insanely attract Scorpio people, relationships and friendships. I wish someone who knows this stuff would take a look at my chart.
My husband’s Pluto is within 0 degrees of my Mercury and Mars and within 5 degrees of my Venus, he was the one who was more attached and more “obsessed” and I’m the one left hurt when I saw him die right in front of me and our daughter.
Omg I been in this for 2 years to date 🥺 he is the platonic tower pisces.. its been a struggle 😪 your making me cry I dont know what to do I walk away and it finds Me again ... I am an aquarius 😭😭
this was soo helpful my last relationship who I thought was my Twin Flame we have a saturn square pluto aspect and that relationship was soo toxic and very controlling, I do also have saturn square pluto in my own chart as well! I would love more videos like this, thank you soo much!
What’s crazy is my current relationship… we have Pluto to moon , sun and ascendant in our synastry , and I do feel like my light has completely burnt out… tried ending the relationship and everything but it’s like I’m stuck.
With some of the darker nature of this topic up front, I find it apropos the transcript spells it "sinistry" chart bcuz some of it can be downright sinister!🤣😂🤣😂🤣
I am very Plutonic. Scorpio Stellium + 8H Stellium and have these contacts (Sun Square Pluto at 3 degree and Venus Square Pluto at 2 degree with someone). I am clearly the Pluto person. Yes. It is extremely challenging to end. That is fact. If it ever ends to be honest. But we do not have any negative obsessions (besides being very into one another, loving one another passionately, very close relationship). But it’s not dangerous (no stalking, violence, etc). It’s not as negative as it sounds. I will agree it depends on the individuals at play. Both people will definitely change over time with each other and many times for the better. Don’t let plutonic relationships scare you- they are some of the most transformative relationships you’ll ever experience. ❤️
My TF/soulmate’s Pluto is in Scorpio and my Moon is in Scorpio. My Pluto is in Virgo and she has 4 placements in Virgo (Sun/Mercury/Venus/Mars). Unbelievable synchronicities, we talked for more than 20 hrs when we first connected but shortly thereafter things changed on a dime and it became toxic and codependent. Her energy - remotely, we were thousands of miles away - then literally catalyzed my spiritual awakening (long and unbelievable story). We’re in separation now but can’t get her out of my mind, and I wonder if the same is true for her
No, not even after years of no contact lol. It isn’t b/c of what happened between us in 3D really but more the mind blowing syncs. A powerful intuitive event between us occurred the same day as a solar eclipse even. And my middle name is Moon (can’t make this up.) Any interesting syncs or aspects in your connection?
Yessss! I had to be the one to tell him this relationship may not be a good idea 😐 He wanted to try over and over and over again. His planets in Taurus, mine in pluto
Very interesting video-I am a Plutonian and am drawn to other Plutonians, sometimes unfortunately. Boundaries are incredibly important. Love your couch-wondering where you bought it?
I don’t know his chart he Dosent either I believe. All of this happened to me without knowing where our charts collide.. I looked at mine my Pluto is 0.14 degrees in Libra and in my chart Pluto squares my Venus 0.97 degrees and Pluto squared Jupiter 0.59 degrees I also have many sextiles oppositions and junctions in the less that 1.5 degree.. he was born 7 years later than me and Pluto was also in Libra like mine i assume at a higher degree.. interesting.. Back in the year he was born 1979 in Europe a lot of births weren’t certified for months after the birth so his date of birth on his certificate says 28 jan 1980 however his mother said it was 3 months earlier but couldn’t remember date.. He is either a Scorpio or Libra I believe Scorpio but he says he is Aquarius.. how’s that for a mix up.. My lesson was learned and harshly rock bottom then the basement. I am 50 now and just finding my feet again. Thank you MJ 💕
I have to say, that, to crush someone, or to love them, is a CHOICE; and THAT, astrology can never see into what we choose depedning on our level of consciousness... thousands are born the same day and have billion different temperaments and lifes ....Human beings are also full of light, and great dreams...and PLuto is always and has always , and probably, will still, be there.......and not all is negativity about it: Pluto is basically mutation, and thta s soemting we dont like and judge negative
What about if there is a double whammy? My Pluto Conjunct his sun (in Scorpio) and his Pluto squire my sun ( in Leo) also my mars sextile his Pluto. All very tight orb. Can’t stop thinking about him. Is there an other positive aspects in Sinatra to make up for this?
🤔 I already have my Pluto in 8 different aspects in my own chart ... and my TF and I have our Pluto's at 1.1° conjunct ... so, yeah, we have multiples aspects between his Pluto and my planets ... but since it's already part of my chart. I think, feel, he's just activating a lot of those aspects in me, I see it for my benefit. As for him, he has 3 aspects of his planets with Pluto ... Joy, joy, joy!!! 😶🤦♀️ I'll just say, his Pluto, opposed my Mars in Pisces! 😳💥💥💥 Thanks! 🙏☮️❤️
Wow what a time to run across this...i recently found out EVERY man i have been with has a scorpio moon..which is usually conj my pluto in Scorpio in the 4h. Usually within a few degrees..the last one also had his pluto there because were were only a couple years apart in age from one another..ive had many abusive relationships, but also lovely healing ones..my pluto has a favorable aspect to my Venus in pisces 8h and mercury in 10h. The one with a sun in pisces was healing..and my kids father of 11yrs together. The rest..short lived..dangerously flipping the tables.. appreciate this insight
In synastry we have Pluto(male) opposite Sun (female) exact. Pluto retrograde in Libra conjunct descendant /7th house in composite chart. We also have Venus conjunct Saturn at 1° Aries in composite 12th. I deeply believe this person is my TF. Tons of 12th, 11th house 8, 4th and 7th synastry and composite. Our moons are conjunct in Leo, and we have Neptune luminary connections. Still studying it. I appreciate your lecture!
I’m guessing Pluto square Chiron is a “negative” thing? Are there times when a person might be a plutonic person in their natal chart, so these Pluto connections aren’t really that bad??
my boyfriend and I have conjunct Plutos and Chirons (directly lined up) and the Pluto and Chiron are conjuncted in both our separate natal charts. in his chart, they're in the 11th house and mine are in the 5th, in directly opposed houses. I heard this is rare! his black moon Lilith is in the 12th house (making his a true lunar node), and mine is in the 6th. I believe he completes me, we have a crazy karmic link. sometimes I feel I don't remember my life before I met him three years ago.
I tend to attract Plutonian relationships. Currently in a relationship with someone and we have quite a few Pluto aspects in our synastry I am the Pluto person and I’m trying so hard to heal my wounds. My ex husband was a narcissist and he left me scarred so my poor boyfriend is experiencing the disaster that I am. I’ve noticed I really hurt him sometime but I love him so much and I’m trying so hard to be more emotionally mature. We have Pluto square Venus, Pluto in 3rd house,and Pluto in 5th house.
I'm Sun conjunct Pluto. 0° Cazimi. Pluto conjunct Mercury Pluto conjunct Saturn Pluto Sqaure Asc Plutp semisquare Mars/Venus conjunction. My husband has an identical chart with me. Same aspects all double whammied. My most intense and possibly violent relationship was a 5 planet Scorpio stellium man whose Pluto/Mars/Uranus conjunction was conjunct my Mars/Venus conjunction. All my biggest relationships were Scorpio Stellium men. 🥴
Yes. We have the same aspects all double whammied. 9yrs together now. Got dicey for a few years and we totally broke eachother down. We pulled through though.
I can confirm that this Mercury Pluto is just like that, except more flowing, but it's the truth, everything is instant and the minds both change, very quickly, but that's good! It feels like getting enlightened. There's a little this and that, friction or resistance or whatever but not long, a day, maybe a couple days max and everything changes on both sides, miracles are happening! We're talking about serious deliverances, down the line, drugs, sickness, self esteem, trauma and on and on down the line even to the details of everything, surgically healed! It's like both people are changing everything overnight! Double whammy's down the line, but its Mars Cancer. Right down the line but it's like a magic trick is happening, right down the board. No squares, except pluto square mars but mars is in cancer. Anyway, this is the best thing that's ever happened to me in my life. Tons of Jupiter, Neptune Mercury double whammy also, no or low orb, so everything is super chill. Intense but chill. Anyways, it's a very real situation, everything is not perfect, but I do see it that way personally and it's wonderful. I really belive that because my life has been pretty brutally hard, etc, painful that I need this. I think that a lot of people wouldn't but I personally do and I really think in this case it goes both ways. But that's the miracle we need to get to where we belong! Miraculous, healing, rehabilitation session, that's what I'm seeing here, because everything is healing, getting clean getting fit saving money, everything's changing but it messy. It's awesome though.
I have an almost exact Mars Square Saturn with an ex that I know is also karmic because of the exact conjunction between my Sun in Sagittarius & his North Node in Sagittarius. So much passion- but my God- the end was like a horror show. Took me a year to heal my cracked rib, and he left my car teetering over a pond. 10/10 do not recommend. Glad no murder/suicides were committed.
Would personal planets in somebody's 8th house also count as "plutonic relationship"? I have my moon in somebody's 8th house in Taurus...It feels intense, but...can it be labelled "plutonic"?
Hi just to find out what does it mean if you have pluto opp Venus and he also has the same thing as in pluto opposite Venus in his chart ... Is this a good or bad thing..
Well, this ia so true! The ascendant person realise much later what is goeing on. My case. I study astrology for over a year, trying to decodeing myself. And i had pluto s transit thru my 7 in the last 20 yo. My marriage for 28 yo and my bussines disolved. I realised last year about pluto s specifics, manipulation, power struggles, but this video, just added the complete flavour of gaslight and people around me seeing me different than i am, and in the same time, i was the bad person and he was the good one. And i was eating stones in this time. I also have a daughter with him and i start to see the picture with 3 or 4 y before divorce. I also have mars is aries, and my response to gaslight was verbally agressive many times. I use to yell a lot, becouse i wasn t heard. I didn t know how to deal with things different back then. Well, i m ok now, i worked hard with chiron, saturn, pluto and neptune. And now i m in a place where i m in peace with everything. Even with him. I understand the lessons. We change a lot. But guess what? I m also a leo rising and i have pluto transiting my 7 aqua for 18 y AGAIN! And i can see the flavour! I m obsessed in the last four y about a man who live in the other part of the world, we never talk, but i know i was with him in other lives. I recognised him, i ve been with him in astral, we look almost the same, even different races, different age. Yes, twins. This 4 y i had the most insane and beautiful growing in all my life! And this transit again. I guess, i came here to have some fun in this life time, god help me 🙂🤟 at least, i m different from the first time. So, ty for this video 🤍💙
My moon and his sun are exactly conjunct at 9 degrees of Sagittarius 😭 to add to that, his Pluto in Sagittarius is conjunct my moon with a 5 degree orb and my Pluto in Scorpio is conjunct his Venus with a 5 degree orb 😩 my Juno is also exactly conjunct his Venus…it’s the most toxic situation I’ve ever been in and we both can’t fully walk away from each other for good even though we’ve both tried
I also want to share my rising or ascendant is in Leo and so many Pluto close by me are in Escorpio : 1989, 1988.and so... So often i have pluto square my ascendant... What i should do? If i go to 1982 maybe pluto in Libra...someone older than me or too younger? At least to stop the plutonic chart. I was comparing a lot of important relationships and all have aspects with pluto, mostly in sextile, trino...not many squares... But i realized the one that moves me a lot are the ones with pluto sextile moon (moon, juno and mercury) . They blow my mind and suddenly i am lost for at least one month... How to avoid or face this ? How to atract better? Maybe its true what you said...i shouls look into me to see what they want to teach me and just stop about atracting this partners. I dont share a lot the sexual part...and when someone actives this on me just touching my hand....i feel so much intensity that for a moment i want this passion...and after i feel this lose myself...
Last year I ended a relationship where, I now know we had, ready for this...? - His Pluto in Scorpio square my Mars in Leo (MJ's comment "I don't recommend this" 🤣) - His Venus in Aquarius square my Venus in Scorpio - His Mercury in Aquarius square my Mercury in Scorpio. - 29 total squares in our synastry - Add to that his being in recovery from addiction issues Of course we all have our demons and both played a part, but this video has been maybe the most validating thing I've felt about the whole experience. The lessons of my own power and self-worth were definitely learned the hard way through a lot of pain and suffering. I am finally feeling grateful for this major catalyst, even as it's still taking time to heal from it. Thank you so much for this, MJ! ❤🩹
Very interesting. I got Neptune in conjunction with the Moon in Scorpio in my 4th house and also Mars in conjuction with Mercury in Scorpio; so also in the same house. I see myself as a souldetective 😄to people with problems. I'm a social worker with medium qualities. For the last three years I developed this qualities more through education to increase my posibilities to help them better. But I had to work through some deep issues myself of old trauma's and patterns before I could be of help to others though. And at this moment I'm doubting if my twinflame connection is a Plutonic one, because there is not a lot of sympathy or empathy in his reactions (we're in separation now for 6 month) although he is trying his best to make it look like that. Because it doesn't feel like it. And throughout our whole relationship, wich lasts 3 years now , we mainly communicated by mail. He was my boss, lives 100 miles away from me and is in a karmic relationship. I'm a the point of letting the whole thing go now and concentrate on my new practice wich I'm going to start in spring. I spoke to him in person only three times.
Asc 30:06
Sun 21:48
Moon 26:30
Mercury 41:42
Venus 45:00
Mars 36:00
Jupiter 53:25
Saturn 48:00
Thank you so much!
It is unbearable, but that doesn't seem to matter. I have thought of her everyday for 6 years now. I am HIGHLY PLUTONIC and she is not, but her Pluto conjuncts my Asc. I have had visions, signs, dreams that confirm this connection. If it was not for these strange signs, I could walk away. I am used to being in control of everything. I control nothing when it comes to her. Fortunately, I have set up boundaries to protect myself. She is my destruction that I crave more than anything. It is terrible!
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what aspects your planet make to her planet? Your Pluto conjuct her Venus?
And what is worst is that all this information only helps to understand the nature of the predicament, but it doesn’t take away the pain, cravings, anxiety, you name it…here I am the quintessential on and off through out 14 years, staying strong with the no contact, yet think about him every day to no end. I can relate to every single word you expressed. God bless
I can relate to this sooooo well. I have a lot of Plutonian energy and he was a Scorpio with a major stellium in my 8th house.
Also we both have sun conjunct our plutos, Mars conjunct Venus in 8th house just to name a couple.
I cried when I learned I had a plutonic connection with my past person. I have a lot of my pluto aspect on his personal planets plus my pluto in scorpio oppose his ascendant in taurus. I can't control myself to not be obsessed with him. I decided to break away because I was overwhelmed with the power struggles between us. The moment I noticed he is no longer the happy person he used to be, I know I have to let him go. He don't want me to leave but it's not working out at all. Additionally, the cycle repeats but just with different person. I need to address something within me (being codependent and too controlling) so I can start healing. It is painful to move on but I don't want to stay and let each other die in the process.
I remembered during the 1st month of getting to know each other, he felt like he meet me from past life. However, in my end, I only treated him as a friend but I was drawn to him no matter what.
Thank you for the information. I'm a novice trying to understand our synastry and composite charts. ❤
I seem to have Pluto "magnets" in me, on me, around me. 3 in a row in the past 12 years. God, I'm done with Plutonian contacts only because I know precisely (and intimately) how they work, how they come to be, and how they end.
Lol heard
I have 12th house magnets it’s gut wrenching 😢
Not all Plutonians are bad. You just need to find those that are functioning maturely. I have Pluto conjunct Ascendant. My mere energy signature puts people off, even if I'm happy and enjoying myself. But I am also very kind and giving. I care about people. The problem with that is people often think that it means I'm weak, which activates my Pluto because they begin to try and dominate me. That doesn't end well though.
This is brilliant and so informative! We should all be taught about our charts in Elementary School. I am sure this knowledge would transform so many relationships on so many levels. It is our psyche our unconscious energetic drives and shows a whole other level of explaining mental illnesses. You have taken Astrology to a level that can really heal and help by making accessible the energies of the Planets the dark and the light. The pieces of what creates an ego and a personality are right in our birth charts. There is so much information just as much as DNA. Blessings and kudos to you MJ you truly are a gifted teacher. Thank You!
Definitely ppl confuse soul mate, karmic, and twin flame relationships too much! Twin flame connections are RARE extremely RARE most of us will never meet our twin flame in this lifetime
Most of our relationships are karmic
My false twin and I had pluto square sun close orb synastry! I'm the pluto person and was the married one, so it makes sense! But after a year or so and not seeing each other, I realized that I misses him and was madly in love! He was in my dreams every night and I was heartbroken. Because of that, I awakened Spirituality and that was how my ascension started. Because he was my false twin, it faded after 7 years and we didn't have the need to contact each other anymore and I don't feel anything for him.
Thank you
It’s interesting, because in evolutionariy astrology Jeffrey Wolfe Green sees Pluto as the most important planet, and the first planet, to look at when evaluating a chart. The person that I believe is my twin and I have quite a few Pluto aspects, and both of us are Plutonian. With Pluto squaring, both of our Mercury’s, our conversations are incredible. I recently. had Pluto transit over my sun and though it was intense I am so much more than before it. I know that, since this person came into my life, my journey with astrology became fast track in a way I don’t think I could’ve ever imagined. I’ve been watching the entire relationship unfold through astrology and there’s so much more than a platonic thing going on here. From our first meeting, to our last contact every single moment destined by the astrology. Our composite charge is incredibl we have the vertex conjunct the defendant , Eros and pysche conjunct in synastry. We have a tone of sacred geometry in our composure like a Solomon seal,, a mystical rectangle , Two kites, and moon in the 8th house. There’s so much more, I could go on it is absolutely fascinating. I would love to discuss.
Oh MJ, I hope those in this situation see this. This was my marriage. Wow, looking back from the first moment we met in person, I didn't want to be separated from him. It was the last 3 years of marriage that our relationship became toxic.
When I walked away, he had no cares for me. I was heartbroken.
A few years on, my ascension was expedited. I'm back on my path and learning lots.
Thank you for shining your light. 🧡✨️🌹🌈
I appreciate the point of this video, but as a Scorpio rising, Moon, Neptune conjunct in Scorpio, and Pluto in Virgo, I find Scorpio has a positive side, too. I know the video is about the detriment of the Pluto/Mars connections, and maybe my life of self-improvement has changed my view, but, thankfully, I have a Buddhist practice that thrives on self-responsibility, and so does my Scorpio partner. Just representing the Scorpio point of view. :) Learning, thank you.
You’re amazingly great at interpreting, explaining and understanding the aspects and connections. Thank you for this video. This was life changing! Only, if you’re ready to comprehend what you’re saying though. The only video I’ve ever had to slow the speed on. I’m like “whoa slow down I’m not ready to hear this.” Yet you enlightened me on how Pluto can actually be positive even in a negative way if that even makes sense. This whole video is full of information for someone who isn’t/hasn’t been able to make sense of certain things if they’re ready to hear it. So excited to watch the twin flame stuff! Thank you, again!
I was listening to this and looking at my aspects in a couple different synastry charts..... Totally almost grabbed the mayonnaise instead of the butter to put on my toast when you mentioned Mars and Pluto
Why she only talks about square? What about conjunction? Sexitle and all others? Which has different meaning
I just got done watching this on your other channel. This notification had me hopeful this was part 2 dropping.
Ironic how astrologist have different opinions on aspects. I was just listening to someone who said the pluto square venus was the soul mate aspect. She said she had it with her husband and they were married within 2 months of meeting.
I have 11 pluto aspects in synastry with a man. It's off the charts! We have:
Pluto-Venus DW
Pluto - Sun DW
Pluto-Nodes DW
Plus some!
We're going to happen, no matter what the attraction is off the charts!
Im an aquarius sun, moon and virgo ascendant dating a scorpio sun, pisces moon, taurus ascendant. The synastry chart has my pluto conjunct his sun, my pluto trine his moon and If Im not mistaken his venus conjunct my pluto...I honestly feel I cant breathe sometimes. My pluto is in scorpio.
He needs to know EVERYTHING Im feeling/ thinking - it feels like being psychoanalyzed instead of wooed.
My whole day goes into this relationship- I love drawing, sewing, embroidery and I feel that all the things I enjoy are being taken away. I feel like Im being consummed and consumming him which is just not healthy.The sex? HORRIBLE. I feel sexually attracted to him but it feels unbalanced. I sense he uses this as a weapon. Im starting to resent him and I want to hurt him emotionally at this point. Ive tried to get out of the relationship twice but he goes ballistic. Im not happy- I dont feel like myself - I just want my mental peace back. I dont feel anything good can get out of this
21:51 Sun square Pluto
26:35 Pluto square moon
Thank you for taking this on! Not many can truly tackle this and make sense. Jewel Mayberry does. Modern Astrology, too. I can't get enough of it!
I totally experienced this and decided to walk away very painful process ty ❤
Faith has been tested to the enth degree!
Welp this makes a lot of sense. My last relationship had two separate Pluto aspects in our synastry charts… and I had both the personal planets on my end… so I felt it most. And it just makes a whole lot of sense. Right now I am in therapy and on this healing journey. It did strip a part of my light away, but I am finding it again
It’s sucks bc I truly love him, but the power struggle between us… were just sooo incredibly toxic. I don’t think I can ever get back with him.. it’s hard to move on from someone you truly love to your core, but it be too toxic to come back to. I don’t think it’s just synastry, I think it’s just being a human, and finding someone you really love. Yes it plays apart. BUT it also has to do with how you were raised, and who you are as an individual. Thank you for your video tho, you’re amazing!!!
I appreciate this and want to point out composite charts - combining both natal charts to determine the function of the relationship itself.
There are also Pluto aspects that are healthy. My TF and I both have sun square Pluto in natal and synastry. It’s not negative, but it certainly aludes to the unspoken changes we both bring to each other just by our ego expression. It all depends on the awareness of both partners. There are other aspects (Saturn or Mars on the North Node) that would indicate a negative karmic bond, the asteroid Karma negatively aspected, etc.
Overall I think you nailed it and I appreciate you veering into astrology.
I value your insight and work. ❤️
45:00 venus square pluto
I hate having this aspect with everyone
Movie example: 9 1/2 weeks looks veeery plutonic. Squarish plutonic. Oh there, you said it too! 🤣
Thank you for this.
We Have Venus Square Pluto But Also The Conjunction Both 0 Degree Orbs. But We Also Have All The Other Aspects That Sorta Mend This. Like Moon and Venus, Moon and Mercury, North Node Conjunct Vertex In 7th House, Moon Conjunct Neptune, Sun Square and Conjunct Pluto - Lots Of Double Whammys
Great video honestly. I should mention to everyone that please take what resonates with you. Also, your Ascendant represents the point in which your soul met your body. Your Ascendant maps out your entire birth chart and is the most personal to you.
The way to remember this is to think about what it takes to calculate your Ascendant versus your Sun. Your Sun’s window is a month or about 30 days versus your Ascendants window which is only around a couple hours in a day. Or other words, the couple hours block of time that you entered this world.
Thank you for this video and info…it’s given me lots to think about and giving me clarity
You are radiating such beauty MJ... totally think you're so in alignment with this re-launch of this channel ❤️
Been there done with that Thank you ❣️.
Finally. Source sent your energy my way. I understand - I am not alone. Gracias
I love this information! Thank you so much for this as I am seriously looking within 🙏🤗
Can you please make a video on the opposition!! This is an amazing video thank you. Also, what about midheaven aspects?
Scorpio is using intuition. They keep a good list and bad list in their brain. Then calls bs
11:11pm when I read this!
MJ! This is information that is so needed right now. I love how in depth this is. And yes, more please 🙏🏽! Thank you 🙏🏽
Wow great video! Very eye opening
Watching this today after being psychologically, physically, mentally, financially Ab^sed! My family and everyone who ever knew me watched me nearly die and they blamed me for apparently being the aggressor when they all know I’m far from that.. Heartbreaking experience for anyone in a relationship with EVERYTHING you spoke about!! 5yrs today since I married this Demonic man. 2 years since divorce and took me 2 years to heal! One year I locked myself in the house and Divine forcing me to unknowingly. I always say “I wish I knew astrology before this life threatning marriage” but it was for my highest good. THANK YOU 🙏 new subscriber ❤
My husband and I have Pluto square moon 2 degree orb . 😂 we have moon 🌙 conjunct moon though and other positive aspects.
I have my Venus square my ex's Pluto. The pain is real 😢 It took me almost 2 years to get over him.
I'm the pluto person I think, I insanely attract Scorpio people, relationships and friendships. I wish someone who knows this stuff would take a look at my chart.
My husband’s Pluto is within 0 degrees of my Mercury and Mars and within 5 degrees of my Venus, he was the one who was more attached and more “obsessed” and I’m the one left hurt when I saw him die right in front of me and our daughter.
🙏🏽🙏🏽
Great content, so glad i found you. Just what i was looking for.
Omg I been in this for 2 years to date 🥺 he is the platonic tower pisces.. its been a struggle 😪 your making me cry I dont know what to do I walk away and it finds Me again ... I am an aquarius 😭😭
this was soo helpful my last relationship who I thought was my Twin Flame we have a saturn square pluto aspect and that relationship was soo toxic and very controlling, I do also have saturn square pluto in my own chart as well! I would love more videos like this, thank you soo much!
Saturn Square Pluto in a synastry chart is a generational aspect.
What’s crazy is my current relationship… we have Pluto to moon , sun and ascendant in our synastry , and I do feel like my light has completely burnt out… tried ending the relationship and everything but it’s like I’m stuck.
The generational pluto's are good too. It's like nationalism, culture in a small town, that loyalty, you know my home team energy.
Just got through one. Still recovering.
Ditto. It's rough.
Thank you MJ. Pulled my chart(s) out during this!
With some of the darker nature of this topic up front, I find it apropos the transcript spells it "sinistry" chart bcuz some of it can be downright sinister!🤣😂🤣😂🤣
I'm wondering who is the more obsessed in the Venus square Pluto? The Venus or Pluto?
Thank you…☺️💖
Wow, I have so much to learn and work to do!
I am very Plutonic. Scorpio Stellium + 8H Stellium and have these contacts (Sun Square Pluto at 3 degree and Venus Square Pluto at 2 degree with someone). I am clearly the Pluto person. Yes. It is extremely challenging to end. That is fact. If it ever ends to be honest. But we do not have any negative obsessions (besides being very into one another, loving one another passionately, very close relationship). But it’s not dangerous (no stalking, violence, etc). It’s not as negative as it sounds. I will agree it depends on the individuals at play. Both people will definitely change over time with each other and many times for the better. Don’t let plutonic relationships scare you- they are some of the most transformative relationships you’ll ever experience. ❤️
I'm trying to find information on pluto square ascendant synastry.
I really need to get a synastry reading. She played massive mind games with me.
Great information
In synastry we have Pluto conjunct Ascendant, Pluto conjunct Moon, Pluto conjunct Pluto, Jupiter Conjunct Pluto, Saturn conjunct Pluto. Very painful experience.
My TF/soulmate’s Pluto is in Scorpio and my Moon is in Scorpio. My Pluto is in Virgo and she has 4 placements in Virgo (Sun/Mercury/Venus/Mars). Unbelievable synchronicities, we talked for more than 20 hrs when we first connected but shortly thereafter things changed on a dime and it became toxic and codependent. Her energy - remotely, we were thousands of miles away - then literally catalyzed my spiritual awakening (long and unbelievable story). We’re in separation now but can’t get her out of my mind, and I wonder if the same is true for her
OMG !! A very similar experience has happened to me !! Are you able to disconnect?
No, not even after years of no contact lol. It isn’t b/c of what happened between us in 3D really but more the mind blowing syncs. A powerful intuitive event between us occurred the same day as a solar eclipse even. And my middle name is Moon (can’t make this up.) Any interesting syncs or aspects in your connection?
Yessss! I had to be the one to tell him this relationship may not be a good idea 😐 He wanted to try over and over and over again. His planets in Taurus, mine in pluto
What's hard is when you know it's going to hurt but they won't give up. I had to get a restraining order finally
Fantastic video!! Thank you!!
Been split up for 4 years still can’t let each other go. We have a child. Only stopped sleeping together a few months ago.
I ont know ie been in situation as pluto where ive been in danger or manipulated so ....
Very interesting video-I am a Plutonian and am drawn to other Plutonians, sometimes unfortunately. Boundaries are incredibly important.
Love your couch-wondering where you bought it?
Thank you Mary Jo ❤❤❤
I don’t know his chart he Dosent either I believe. All of this happened to me without knowing where our charts collide.. I looked at mine my Pluto is 0.14 degrees in Libra and in my chart Pluto squares my Venus 0.97 degrees and Pluto squared Jupiter 0.59 degrees I also have many sextiles oppositions and junctions in the less that 1.5 degree.. he was born 7 years later than me and Pluto was also in Libra like mine i assume at a higher degree.. interesting.. Back in the year he was born 1979 in Europe a lot of births weren’t certified for months after the birth so his date of birth on his certificate says 28 jan 1980 however his mother said it was 3 months earlier but couldn’t remember date.. He is either a Scorpio or Libra I believe Scorpio but he says he is Aquarius.. how’s that for a mix up.. My lesson was learned and harshly rock bottom then the basement. I am 50 now and just finding my feet again. Thank you MJ 💕
I have to say, that, to crush someone, or to love them, is a CHOICE; and THAT, astrology can never see into what we choose depedning on our level of consciousness...
thousands are born the same day and have billion different temperaments and lifes
....Human beings are also full of light, and great dreams...and PLuto is always and has always , and probably, will still, be there.......and not all is negativity about it: Pluto is basically mutation, and thta s soemting we dont like and judge negative
What about if there is a double whammy? My Pluto Conjunct his sun (in Scorpio) and his Pluto squire my sun ( in Leo) also my mars sextile his Pluto. All very tight orb. Can’t stop thinking about him. Is there an other positive aspects in Sinatra to make up for this?
Your Saturn square Pluto description is hilarious 😂
Love it Love Love it Thank you soo much
Thank you so much! I can definitely relate. What if the Pluto contacts go both ways? More toxic?
🤔 I already have my Pluto in 8 different aspects in my own chart ... and my TF and I have our Pluto's at 1.1° conjunct ... so, yeah, we have multiples aspects between his Pluto and my planets ... but since it's already part of my chart. I think, feel, he's just activating a lot of those aspects in me, I see it for my benefit.
As for him, he has 3 aspects of his planets with Pluto ...
Joy, joy, joy!!! 😶🤦♀️
I'll just say, his Pluto, opposed my Mars in Pisces! 😳💥💥💥
Thanks! 🙏☮️❤️
Wow what a time to run across this...i recently found out EVERY man i have been with has a scorpio moon..which is usually conj my pluto in Scorpio in the 4h. Usually within a few degrees..the last one also had his pluto there because were were only a couple years apart in age from one another..ive had many abusive relationships, but also lovely healing ones..my pluto has a favorable aspect to my Venus in pisces 8h and mercury in 10h. The one with a sun in pisces was healing..and my kids father of 11yrs together. The rest..short lived..dangerously flipping the tables.. appreciate this insight
When Pluto was going thru my 7th House, I met a man and all hell broke out! Terrible! 😮
In synastry we have Pluto(male) opposite Sun (female) exact. Pluto retrograde in Libra conjunct descendant /7th house in composite chart. We also have Venus conjunct Saturn at 1° Aries in composite 12th. I deeply believe this person is my TF. Tons of 12th, 11th house 8, 4th and 7th synastry and composite. Our moons are conjunct in Leo, and we have Neptune luminary connections. Still studying it. I appreciate your lecture!
Hello MJ. Do you have a video on different types of Twin flame relationships?
There is a video she did on “what kind of twin are yiu”
Excellent 🎉 Thank you 😊
I’m guessing Pluto square Chiron is a “negative” thing? Are there times when a person might be a plutonic person in their natal chart, so these Pluto connections aren’t really that bad??
What do you mean with having a LOT of Pluto? Like pluto on AC or as chart ruler?
This man I’ve been connected with this past year and a half his Pluto and Virgo has been in direct opposition to my Venus in Pisces!
No wonder…🤦♀️
We have the same amount of Pluto towards each other and it is a lot of Pluto in the synastry. We both have Pluto square partners mars.
You are so good!!! Wow 😮 Thank you! ❤
my boyfriend and I have conjunct Plutos and Chirons (directly lined up) and the Pluto and Chiron are conjuncted in both our separate natal charts. in his chart, they're in the 11th house and mine are in the 5th, in directly opposed houses. I heard this is rare!
his black moon Lilith is in the 12th house (making his a true lunar node), and mine is in the 6th. I believe he completes me, we have a crazy karmic link. sometimes I feel I don't remember my life before I met him three years ago.
I tend to attract Plutonian relationships. Currently in a relationship with someone and we have quite a few Pluto aspects in our synastry I am the Pluto person and I’m trying so hard to heal my wounds. My ex husband was a narcissist and he left me scarred so my poor boyfriend is experiencing the disaster that I am. I’ve noticed I really hurt him sometime but I love him so much and I’m trying so hard to be more emotionally mature. We have Pluto square Venus, Pluto in 3rd house,and Pluto in 5th house.
Also Pluto sextile Saturn ,Uranus,and Neptune.
Their Pluto Squares my Sun by 3° orb, with their Saturn over said Sun with 1° orb. Both Saturn & Pluto right over my sun. It's been so HARD!
I'm Sun conjunct Pluto. 0° Cazimi.
Pluto conjunct Mercury
Pluto conjunct Saturn
Pluto Sqaure Asc
Plutp semisquare Mars/Venus conjunction.
My husband has an identical chart with me. Same aspects all double whammied.
My most intense and possibly violent relationship was a 5 planet Scorpio stellium man whose Pluto/Mars/Uranus conjunction was conjunct my Mars/Venus conjunction.
All my biggest relationships were Scorpio Stellium men. 🥴
So your current marriage in the first set of aspects??? If so how is it going?
Yes. We have the same aspects all double whammied. 9yrs together now. Got dicey for a few years and we totally broke eachother down. We pulled through though.
I can confirm that this Mercury Pluto is just like that, except more flowing, but it's the truth, everything is instant and the minds both change, very quickly, but that's good! It feels like getting enlightened. There's a little this and that, friction or resistance or whatever but not long, a day, maybe a couple days max and everything changes on both sides, miracles are happening! We're talking about serious deliverances, down the line, drugs, sickness, self esteem, trauma and on and on down the line even to the details of everything, surgically healed! It's like both people are changing everything overnight! Double whammy's down the line, but its Mars Cancer. Right down the line but it's like a magic trick is happening, right down the board. No squares, except pluto square mars but mars is in cancer. Anyway, this is the best thing that's ever happened to me in my life. Tons of Jupiter, Neptune Mercury double whammy also, no or low orb, so everything is super chill. Intense but chill. Anyways, it's a very real situation, everything is not perfect, but I do see it that way personally and it's wonderful. I really belive that because my life has been pretty brutally hard, etc, painful that I need this. I think that a lot of people wouldn't but I personally do and I really think in this case it goes both ways. But that's the miracle we need to get to where we belong! Miraculous, healing, rehabilitation session, that's what I'm seeing here, because everything is healing, getting clean getting fit saving money, everything's changing but it messy. It's awesome though.
I have an almost exact Mars Square Saturn with an ex that I know is also karmic because of the exact conjunction between my Sun in Sagittarius & his North Node in Sagittarius. So much passion- but my God- the end was like a horror show. Took me a year to heal my cracked rib, and he left my car teetering over a pond. 10/10 do not recommend. Glad no murder/suicides were committed.
Powerful!!
Ugh. 13 years in a relationship riddled with neptune and pluto aspects. We don't have insane fights, maybe once or twice, but more bickering.
This reading is so spot-on.
Been through it twice now. We split for 16 year's & got back together lasted 3years, same old stuff.
My son's Pluto squares my Venus within 5 degrees. I wonder how it plays out in mother/child relationships.
Would personal planets in somebody's 8th house also count as "plutonic relationship"?
I have my moon in somebody's 8th house in Taurus...It feels intense, but...can it be labelled "plutonic"?
Hi just to find out what does it mean if you have pluto opp Venus and he also has the same thing as in pluto opposite Venus in his chart ... Is this a good or bad thing..
Well, this ia so true! The ascendant person realise much later what is goeing on. My case. I study astrology for over a year, trying to decodeing myself. And i had pluto s transit thru my 7 in the last 20 yo. My marriage for 28 yo and my bussines disolved. I realised last year about pluto s specifics, manipulation, power struggles, but this video, just added the complete flavour of gaslight and people around me seeing me different than i am, and in the same time, i was the bad person and he was the good one. And i was eating stones in this time. I also have a daughter with him and i start to see the picture with 3 or 4 y before divorce. I also have mars is aries, and my response to gaslight was verbally agressive many times. I use to yell a lot, becouse i wasn t heard. I didn t know how to deal with things different back then. Well, i m ok now, i worked hard with chiron, saturn, pluto and neptune. And now i m in a place where i m in peace with everything. Even with him. I understand the lessons. We change a lot. But guess what? I m also a leo rising and i have pluto transiting my 7 aqua for 18 y AGAIN! And i can see the flavour! I m obsessed in the last four y about a man who live in the other part of the world, we never talk, but i know i was with him in other lives. I recognised him, i ve been with him in astral, we look almost the same, even different races, different age. Yes, twins. This 4 y i had the most insane and beautiful growing in all my life! And this transit again. I guess, i came here to have some fun in this life time, god help me 🙂🤟 at least, i m different from the first time. So, ty for this video 🤍💙
My moon and his sun are exactly conjunct at 9 degrees of Sagittarius 😭 to add to that, his Pluto in Sagittarius is conjunct my moon with a 5 degree orb and my Pluto in Scorpio is conjunct his Venus with a 5 degree orb 😩 my Juno is also exactly conjunct his Venus…it’s the most toxic situation I’ve ever been in and we both can’t fully walk away from each other for good even though we’ve both tried
I definitely want to learn more about this stuff!
How is it if their Pluto is in Scorpio and it is in close degrees with your cancer mars 🤔
I also want to share my rising or ascendant is in Leo and so many Pluto close by me are in Escorpio : 1989, 1988.and so... So often i have pluto square my ascendant... What i should do? If i go to 1982 maybe pluto in Libra...someone older than me or too younger? At least to stop the plutonic chart. I was comparing a lot of important relationships and all have aspects with pluto, mostly in sextile, trino...not many squares... But i realized the one that moves me a lot are the ones with pluto sextile moon (moon, juno and mercury) . They blow my mind and suddenly i am lost for at least one month... How to avoid or face this ? How to atract better? Maybe its true what you said...i shouls look into me to see what they want to teach me and just stop about atracting this partners. I dont share a lot the sexual part...and when someone actives this on me just touching my hand....i feel so much intensity that for a moment i want this passion...and after i feel this lose myself...
His Pluto & ascendant conjuncts my Jupiter, Venus, NN, Juno, Nemesis, and Pluto in Scorpio.
Last year I ended a relationship where, I now know we had, ready for this...?
- His Pluto in Scorpio square my Mars in Leo (MJ's comment "I don't recommend this" 🤣)
- His Venus in Aquarius square my Venus in Scorpio
- His Mercury in Aquarius square my Mercury in Scorpio.
- 29 total squares in our synastry
- Add to that his being in recovery from addiction issues
Of course we all have our demons and both played a part, but this video has been maybe the most validating thing I've felt about the whole experience. The lessons of my own power and self-worth were definitely learned the hard way through a lot of pain and suffering. I am finally feeling grateful for this major catalyst, even as it's still taking time to heal from it. Thank you so much for this, MJ! ❤🩹
Very interesting. I got Neptune in conjunction with the Moon in Scorpio in my 4th house and also Mars in conjuction with Mercury in Scorpio; so also in the same house. I see myself as a souldetective 😄to people with problems. I'm a social worker with medium qualities. For the last three years I developed this qualities more through education to increase my posibilities to help them better. But I had to work through some deep issues myself of old trauma's and patterns before I could be of help to others though. And at this moment I'm doubting if my twinflame connection is a Plutonic one, because there is not a lot of sympathy or empathy in his reactions (we're in separation now for 6 month) although he is trying his best to make it look like that. Because it doesn't feel like it. And throughout our whole relationship, wich lasts 3 years now , we mainly communicated by mail. He was my boss, lives 100 miles away from me and is in a karmic relationship. I'm a the point of letting the whole thing go now and concentrate on my new practice wich I'm going to start in spring. I spoke to him in person only three times.