Agreed with the Kigiri thing, kinda over the top but in the end, praetos and ingridi and valderon already is so strong and dominant, that it does not really matter
game analytic: Hey, we have a problem, the people are hoarding legendary soul stones and not using them, we need a way to reduce the pool before the future update, any ideas? game dev: say no more.
@@gangOz123 It appears that the A3 was already doing this improved damage effect but the words in the description didn't say that. "Description adjustment" sounds like they have altered the text to describe what is already happening in game, rather than changing it to be more powerful.
In my opinion, any buff that makes the game easier is a massive win. If I’m already ahead of 90% of players as their anniversary video pointed out, then most of the player base absolutely needs all of the friendly changes they can get.
For me kigiri buff is possitive thing as most of us went for him and sooner or later can obtain a3 on him whereas getting prateus or ingrid is really a slim chance of lottery. It makes us getting to end stages easier not being have to investing lots of time of gearing up to reach op stats so I am all for it. It is not being told that in the future also moonton won't introduce more content that got higher difficulty and such op champions will be a necessity to get through
I really don't think this is a big deal. I mean, Praetus is still way stronger than kigiri, and he keeps getting buffs too. What's actually annoying, is that they don't buff or adjust the actually useless heroes.
Got my first ever unpolished soulstone and immediately got my A2 kigiri to A3 last week. Definitely agree that it's weird how they decided to make the update now. Aside from that though, with my build, a3 kigiri would fluctuate between 60-100m dmg on NM4. Def can see why they would buff it, but at the same time it's def not fair since he's limited. I didn't get to test Semrah since I recently A3'd him, so will def test tonight before the update to see how different the numbers turn out and then compare it then compare the dmg post-update.
I believe the 2 unpollished soulstone in the patch will give people the chance to try to build Kigiri to A3. I don't mind. I don't find him that game breaking.
For the record, my A3 Kigiri only gets out damaged by my A1 Twyla. We'll see what happens after the patch. His damage is already being slept on imo. It'll theoretically be insane tomorrow. I'll test. I dropped the video today that had him in gb2.
i don't think his damage is slept on. he feels "overrated" dmg wise because he isn't so nuts until a3. but at a3 and a5 I think people really understand how wild he is
@@fastidious_gg Fair enough, I don't have any Unnameables yet, and I was thinking I could remove Valkyra from my Apoc 2 team to push higher numbers, but might just sit on them then. Thanks I do have 4, so could take Lust to A5 if I wanted though
People crying: "Kiri is useless for auto gb" moontoon: give up and gives people what they asked by improving the champ while kinda trying to keep it's uniq mechanic People: "how could you ! If I knew he would be better, I would have pull for it" This community became so cancerous, creators are to blame, this constant QQ about everything, constantly thinking they are owed everything, no shame blackmailing the game creator and turning the game into some macdonald'ification of the game is fucking annoying
not a drop of crying here man. sorry you are so miserable and I personally have never complained about Kigiri in GB2, he is a god there and quite powerful enough already.
Hi Fasti, first get well soon brother. As for the buff I’m all for it, it makes my choice for where to use unpolished soul stones easier. Thank you for making this video and passing on the info. Have a great evening.
I do understand what you're saying and I agree. It's definitely shady. The thing that irritates me the most is that they'll buff Praetus, Valk and Kigiri (heroes who are not at all bad) but they refuse to do anything about Shamir, Crach, Kria, Apsan, Durza, etc. Seeing the buff to Kai makes me hopeful, but who knows when any of the other bad heroes will see any positive changes.
I love the buff to kigiri. I was already planning to use my unpolished ss on him and now its really a no brainer. A dispeller unit with damage mitigation and massive aoe and single target damage. Yes please! I have him A0 now, but already have 1 unpolished ready and will have 3 with the update. So its actually quite reasonably for ftp users. I think he's a top candidate for these and will get me to 120k on apoc2.
Sorry to hear you're not feeling well, Fasti. The best remedy for an upset stomach is....releasing your "I sing Higher by Creed to Lust" video to the general public.
Why am I not surprised...... I went much harder on the twyla banner, but if I had known of this and his true potential I would have pulled much harder for the a3 as opposed to being happy with the a0. I agree with what someone else said - reopen his banner
@ I will have a video on it tomorrow but I basically think they should be used on heroes like that until you can guarantee a key awakening. Lust awakenings really do not matter til a5
@@fastidious_gg I look forward to it.. Bc, I totally disagree :P LOL. I mean, you can hold em until you hit 5 soulstones and drop em all at once.. But, there can be moments where in the early-mid game maybe awakening a specific odd hero might push you through something. I'll be sure to tune in bro!
So is his A3 worthy of using unpolished soul stones on? We are getting a couple of them free I think coming up soon, on top of any you may have pulled from GB, so seems reasonably accessible to many for anyone with him at A0? Everyone keeps saying Yirmet is who I should put them in but at end game I’m not sure he is worthy and maybe just save /shrug
I'm curious about the way Kigiri was worded, how does this permanence apply? Whichever version activates first is permanent, they switch depending on the last one activated, or they stack and both can be activated?
I did not miss one dragon pass since the start of the game but that Last update i will say no we all ask for 1000 gems to be back and they give us extremly bad 20 bonus level so for the first time i will not buy it
I have a Report regarding the unfair system on season guild leaderboard rankings. during the last Round of GVG we were match against a guild in round 1. we won easily and by a huge margin. During round 2 as expected we were match against a more competitive guild and lost in round 2. How come that the team we beat in round 1 who only have 17 guild members rank higher than us in the updated leaderboard rankings? Also, how is the guild currently rank 18 in the thr leaderboard in which their guild members have extremely low bp and low level and some of their members are not active is ranked 18 in the leaderboard? do the season points system give higher points if a team has a disadvantage like low bp and less members?? Any explanation on these sir fasti?
@fastidious_gg hi fasti. apparently I got an explanation from my Guild Leader. According to him it's a strategy of some guild. 5-10 OverPowered Accounts will team up with less members or low lv members. Those OP accouts will garrisoned the stronghold 1-4 and the weak accounts will stay in the bubble. With less garrisoned tower def available the opposing guild will be force to attack only the OP def and maybe it works well against a mid tier guild. that's why their ranks are high. however it kills the fun of the GvG for the opposing guild leaving only an option to attack the O.P defs.
Well KIGIRI is my first limited hero, and knowing my luck and itch to pull, i do not think i can get any limited hero other than him so, this is a positive for me. But then again Moontoon! Give me my dragons!!!!!!
@@fastidious_gg It increases initial rage by 450. That is it. I haven't gone back to look for it when you described the actual upgrade, but i could have sworn it was more than just this.
I just don't get what their reasoning is for buffing all of these strong heroes lately. It's great that "he, who shall not be named" and Gisele are getting some attention, but at the same time, they are also buffing Kigiri, Valkyra, and the POPE!? Oh, and the strong heroes get waaaay stronger buffs 😂 wth? They are widening the gap, not closing it... WHY?
Since it says: [Awakening III] Description Adjustment It sounds more like the skill already has this effect today but the description is wrong. Else wouldn’t it say [Skill Adjustment] ?
I think they should reopen his limited banner for the upcoming weekend. They gave us no heads up with this and a lot of ppl would've liked to know this was gonna happen.
So every time they buff a character its needs a new banner? That is not how these games work. Characters get buffed and nerfed after they are introduced all the time in most Gatcha games. Should Kai get a banner this weekend because he is also getting buffed? This is such a non issue.
@LancerX916 See, there's a big difference between buffing Kai, a common bucket non limited hero that's been out awhile, vs a brand new limited hero that just came out. And the compensation im asking for is allowing players to spend their resources to try to summon said hero. It's not like I asked he be given away to everyone for free.
@@ChrisRyder98 i cant remember the name thats why I said the dragon lady Ya she the bond hero for ymiret. The mage that was like 4/5months ago She got buffed recently as well
I'm more annoyed by the slimy way they announced the update to Kigiri than the buff itself tbh. Heroes are getting buffed and re-worked all the time so I just see it as one of those. But they could (and should have) been more up front about it. Is it weird they did this so close to his banner closing? Sure. It makes it seem like they forgot to build him right or something. But all together, not too much of an issue imo. The paid gold dragon pass perks are nice but the skimpy stamina is silly.
You are complaining about a buff to an A3, meanwhile, a month ago a large portion of the playersbase cheated and got $120 worth of free stuff, and to date, it isn't even an option to begin working my way through that event. I received 100 diamonds, others got $120 worth of stuff they didn't earn. Where is your rant for those of us that still can't begin that event?
not mad just annoyed. imo there is a better way to do things. buffing limited heroes AFTER the banner is shady. also buffing already very strong heroes like kigiri and valkyra while there are still so many awful heroes is frustrating
Agreed with the Kigiri thing, kinda over the top but in the end, praetos and ingridi and valderon already is so strong and dominant, that it does not really matter
game analytic: Hey, we have a problem, the people are hoarding legendary soul stones and not using them, we need a way to reduce the pool before the future update, any ideas?
game dev: say no more.
Lmaoooo
Long list of units that need a buff more than kigiri does 🤔
Literally was about to say this lol it's insane
Got a question. It says "Description adjustment" doesnt that mean it works this way already? They are just changing the description of his a3?
I was wondering the same thing
@@WutTheDeuceGaming what do you mean?
@@gangOz123 It appears that the A3 was already doing this improved damage effect but the words in the description didn't say that. "Description adjustment" sounds like they have altered the text to describe what is already happening in game, rather than changing it to be more powerful.
@@Thurgosh_OGyeah, but do you KNOW that, or are you assuming that based on the wording? M-ton translations are not exactly reliable.
In my opinion, any buff that makes the game easier is a massive win. If I’m already ahead of 90% of players as their anniversary video pointed out, then most of the player base absolutely needs all of the friendly changes they can get.
For me kigiri buff is possitive thing as most of us went for him and sooner or later can obtain a3 on him whereas getting prateus or ingrid is really a slim chance of lottery. It makes us getting to end stages easier not being have to investing lots of time of gearing up to reach op stats so I am all for it. It is not being told that in the future also moonton won't introduce more content that got higher difficulty and such op champions will be a necessity to get through
I really don't think this is a big deal. I mean, Praetus is still way stronger than kigiri, and he keeps getting buffs too. What's actually annoying, is that they don't buff or adjust the actually useless heroes.
Got my first ever unpolished soulstone and immediately got my A2 kigiri to A3 last week. Definitely agree that it's weird how they decided to make the update now.
Aside from that though, with my build, a3 kigiri would fluctuate between 60-100m dmg on NM4. Def can see why they would buff it, but at the same time it's def not fair since he's limited. I didn't get to test Semrah since I recently A3'd him, so will def test tonight before the update to see how different the numbers turn out and then compare it then compare the dmg post-update.
Nice - lemme know how ur testing goes
@@fastidious_gg 155.5k Semrah 1. I'm too weak for Semrah 2. Will update post-buff and sending ss to your disc
I believe the 2 unpollished soulstone in the patch will give people the chance to try to build Kigiri to A3. I don't mind. I don't find him that game breaking.
is yours a3 or a5? check the leaderboards in gb2 - it's gamebreaking
For the record, my A3 Kigiri only gets out damaged by my A1 Twyla. We'll see what happens after the patch. His damage is already being slept on imo. It'll theoretically be insane tomorrow. I'll test. I dropped the video today that had him in gb2.
i don't think his damage is slept on. he feels "overrated" dmg wise because he isn't so nuts until a3. but at a3 and a5 I think people really understand how wild he is
Thanks for the heads-up, I was considering using 3 unpolished stones on Alistair to get him to A3, but now Kigiri might be a stronger upgrade
alistair needs only a1. also I would advise against unpolished on ancients or normal heroes. really meant for Unnameables and then limiteds
@@fastidious_gg Fair enough, I don't have any Unnameables yet, and I was thinking I could remove Valkyra from my Apoc 2 team to push higher numbers, but might just sit on them then. Thanks
I do have 4, so could take Lust to A5 if I wanted though
Its not really important, kigiri isnt meta on PvP, or even GvG... so its just a help for players beat levels or GB...
People crying: "Kiri is useless for auto gb"
moontoon: give up and gives people what they asked by improving the champ while kinda trying to keep it's uniq mechanic
People: "how could you ! If I knew he would be better, I would have pull for it"
This community became so cancerous, creators are to blame, this constant QQ about everything, constantly thinking they are owed everything, no shame blackmailing the game creator and turning the game into some macdonald'ification of the game is fucking annoying
not a drop of crying here man. sorry you are so miserable
and I personally have never complained about Kigiri in GB2, he is a god there and quite powerful enough already.
Hi Fasti, first get well soon brother. As for the buff I’m all for it, it makes my choice for where to use unpolished soul stones easier. Thank you for making this video and passing on the info. Have a great evening.
I do understand what you're saying and I agree. It's definitely shady.
The thing that irritates me the most is that they'll buff Praetus, Valk and Kigiri (heroes who are not at all bad) but they refuse to do anything about Shamir, Crach, Kria, Apsan, Durza, etc.
Seeing the buff to Kai makes me hopeful, but who knows when any of the other bad heroes will see any positive changes.
yes I am in total agreement. well put. hopefully the kai buff is a sign of things to come
Just a quick thank you Fasti, I got those diamonds, appreciate it.
@@LapsedPacifist79 great to hear
I love the buff to kigiri. I was already planning to use my unpolished ss on him and now its really a no brainer. A dispeller unit with damage mitigation and massive aoe and single target damage. Yes please!
I have him A0 now, but already have 1 unpolished ready and will have 3 with the update. So its actually quite reasonably for ftp users. I think he's a top candidate for these and will get me to 120k on apoc2.
Once I get my 2 unpolished soulstones from the update, they're going straight on Kigiri A3
Sorry to hear you're not feeling well, Fasti. The best remedy for an upset stomach is....releasing your "I sing Higher by Creed to Lust" video to the general public.
Lol
Why am I not surprised......
I went much harder on the twyla banner, but if I had known of this and his true potential I would have pulled much harder for the a3 as opposed to being happy with the a0.
I agree with what someone else said - reopen his banner
We probably all got at least 1 copy of kigiri so its just a matter of time so thats a w imo
It says description adjustment. Don’t think he actually got changed. Will see if he hits 2B dmg
I'll take a buff in any form I guess lol. And Kigiri was already worth the soulstones 😊
I guess. And idk for stones, depends on the account
@@fastidious_gg Unpolished? Lust, Kigiri are top end candidates for it =D
@ I will have a video on it tomorrow but I basically think they should be used on heroes like that until you can guarantee a key awakening. Lust awakenings really do not matter til a5
@@fastidious_gg I look forward to it.. Bc, I totally disagree :P LOL. I mean, you can hold em until you hit 5 soulstones and drop em all at once.. But, there can be moments where in the early-mid game maybe awakening a specific odd hero might push you through something.
I'll be sure to tune in bro!
I agree on why now? if they make this change before his release, whale's mid-spenders gonna go hard if they on the fence.
Hi Fasti, I was just checking but can see that its actually 2x Refining Crystal al lvl 30 rewards for golden pass.
alright that's great :)
So is his A3 worthy of using unpolished soul stones on? We are getting a couple of them free I think coming up soon, on top of any you may have pulled from GB, so seems reasonably accessible to many for anyone with him at A0? Everyone keeps saying Yirmet is who I should put them in but at end game I’m not sure he is worthy and maybe just save /shrug
I will have a video unpolished soulstones coming today
I'm curious about the way Kigiri was worded, how does this permanence apply? Whichever version activates first is permanent, they switch depending on the last one activated, or they stack and both can be activated?
they stack according to this
They need to add arena gear locking, I am not mad at the kagiri buff. The people who saved up for him or spent money what ever. Mines is only A0.
"Description adjustement", why you don't take that in consideration?
@@Lug1254 either way. If it just changing its wording it just means it was always super OP and they misrepresented it
I recently got him E3 and it's a huge damage increase.
I don't think Kigiri is all that at a0. So making him better is good. I got him at 250, most I'd ever saved up.
Well we soulstoning Kigiri with this one bois!
I did not miss one dragon pass since the start of the game but that Last update i will say no we all ask for 1000 gems to be back and they give us extremly bad 20 bonus level so for the first time i will not buy it
I have a Report regarding the unfair system on season guild leaderboard rankings.
during the last Round of GVG we were match against a guild in round 1. we won easily and by a huge margin. During round 2 as expected we were match against a more competitive guild and lost in round 2. How come that the team we beat in round 1 who only have 17 guild members rank higher than us in the updated leaderboard rankings?
Also, how is the guild currently rank 18 in the thr leaderboard in which their guild members have extremely low bp and low level and some of their members are not active is ranked 18 in the leaderboard?
do the season points system give higher points if a team has a disadvantage like low bp and less members??
Any explanation on these sir fasti?
no explanation besides the fact that gvg rankings are a mess
@fastidious_gg hi fasti. apparently I got an explanation from my Guild Leader. According to him it's a strategy of some guild. 5-10 OverPowered Accounts will team up with less members or low lv members. Those OP accouts will garrisoned the stronghold 1-4 and the weak accounts will stay in the bubble. With less garrisoned tower def available the opposing guild will be force to attack only the OP def and maybe it works well against a mid tier guild. that's why their ranks are high. however it kills the fun of the GvG for the opposing guild leaving only an option to attack the O.P defs.
Well KIGIRI is my first limited hero, and knowing my luck and itch to pull, i do not think i can get any limited hero other than him so, this is a positive for me.
But then again Moontoon! Give me my dragons!!!!!!
did you pull him a3? if not, this does not benefit you lol
Did they forget about Abominances exclusive artifact buff?
they already updated his artifact. this update also will introduce a piece of exclusive gear for him
@@fastidious_gg It increases initial rage by 450. That is it. I haven't gone back to look for it when you described the actual upgrade, but i could have sworn it was more than just this.
Saladzar fusion?!
I just don't get what their reasoning is for buffing all of these strong heroes lately. It's great that "he, who shall not be named" and Gisele are getting some attention, but at the same time, they are also buffing Kigiri, Valkyra, and the POPE!? Oh, and the strong heroes get waaaay stronger buffs 😂 wth? They are widening the gap, not closing it... WHY?
no update now 11/11 ? or it on 11/11 in 2025 ?
? it's in 12hrs
We want Ingrid and peratus for Xmas banner… *i want
Why buff durza when they can buff kigiri a pretty shit lego
well, which ordinary player gets Kigiri even at a3?.... so, doesn't matter for me at all...
unpolished soulstones
This game can simply never be p2w because 90% of the content and rewards are PvE-based
So people are mad about buffs and nerfs now how are the devs supposed to win haha.
25% chance
to happen in general. a3 becomes a permanent boost the first time each is triggered.
Since it says:
[Awakening III] Description Adjustment
It sounds more like the skill already has this effect today but the description is wrong. Else wouldn’t it say [Skill Adjustment] ?
I think they should reopen his limited banner for the upcoming weekend. They gave us no heads up with this and a lot of ppl would've liked to know this was gonna happen.
So every time they buff a character its needs a new banner? That is not how these games work. Characters get buffed and nerfed after they are introduced all the time in most Gatcha games. Should Kai get a banner this weekend because he is also getting buffed? This is such a non issue.
@LancerX916 See, there's a big difference between buffing Kai, a common bucket non limited hero that's been out awhile, vs a brand new limited hero that just came out. And the compensation im asking for is allowing players to spend their resources to try to summon said hero. It's not like I asked he be given away to everyone for free.
They buffed whats her name the dragon lady so we should get her banner then cause i dont have her and she got buffed by your logic @@ChrisRyder98
@@Merlin13371 The dragon lady? Was this a limited hero like kigiri? It would help if you said their name
@@ChrisRyder98 i cant remember the name thats why I said the dragon lady
Ya she the bond hero for ymiret.
The mage that was like 4/5months ago
She got buffed recently as well
I'm more annoyed by the slimy way they announced the update to Kigiri than the buff itself tbh. Heroes are getting buffed and re-worked all the time so I just see it as one of those. But they could (and should have) been more up front about it. Is it weird they did this so close to his banner closing? Sure. It makes it seem like they forgot to build him right or something. But all together, not too much of an issue imo.
The paid gold dragon pass perks are nice but the skimpy stamina is silly.
I knew my boy kigiri was meant to rise to great heights
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My thoughts are I like your hat.
Let's go!
HYPE!!!
You are complaining about a buff to an A3, meanwhile, a month ago a large portion of the playersbase cheated and got $120 worth of free stuff, and to date, it isn't even an option to begin working my way through that event. I received 100 diamonds, others got $120 worth of stuff they didn't earn.
Where is your rant for those of us that still can't begin that event?
It's in the update notes for tomorrow...
So people are mad about buffs and nerfs now how are the devs supposed to win haha.
not mad just annoyed. imo there is a better way to do things. buffing limited heroes AFTER the banner is shady. also buffing already very strong heroes like kigiri and valkyra while there are still so many awful heroes is frustrating
@fastidious_gg that's very true the list of legendarys that are really bad is way to long.