cultural appropriation tends to put up more barriers than it brings down. "you cant have dreads, your white" "you can't have chinese symbols tattooed on you, you arent chinese", i just dont see how telling someone 'you can't do something because of the colour of your skin' is progress.
The best part is the Minoans are the oldest people recorded to use dreadlocks. Fun fact, Minoans were ancient greeks aka white men. So yeah, africans stole white culture and called it their own.
@@TheAlphatitan sad how people take false history as fact and then attack people because of this bullshit when they're the one doing the appropriation. Bro this cultural appropriation bullshit is literally what the United States is founded on, and most of these people are just plain stupid.
@@YaqobStanding she was a phoenician, I’d say brown skinned. But I mean, she’s depicted as white for the same reason Jesus gets depicted as white with blond hair and blue eyes (it would be impossible for a Jew born in the Middle East to have blond hair blue eyes and white skin)
@Dominic Lee NO. Only Whites who have no flavour, style, rhythm say this. Whites originally made fun blacks hair style, music, fashion, seasoned Food NOW whites it’s cool.... Naaah fuk off
As a latina I am happy to share my culture. The more people engage in it, obviously not trying to disrespect it, then the more we are accepted. To be honest I dont really feel unnacepted overall anyways. If I did I would be like sjw and lying to keep people down. Im over it.
I'm half puerto rican and dominican, pure Caribbean, I went out to the local fetisval in my neighborhood in nyc, saw a white lady and a Asian guy dancing to bachata is a very bad way and I was trying so hard to hold back my laughter omg 😆. That was bad but i guess they weren't hurting anyone lol.
So many people in America lack identity so they attached themselves to fake identity. I was learning Spanish and a Latino Americans who did not speak Spanish was offended I speak Spanish better than him Chicano culture is not Mexico or from Spain. It's ghetto. If a white guy wears dreadlocks because it come from Egypt black people get mad. If I wear a Pancho your not Mexico if I wear a use slang your stealing from aave. Etc etc
I feel like the examples that they were using is pretty much just glorified gatekeeping I feel like real cultural appropriations when someone uses another race's culture as a prop like wearing a native American costume for Halloween
Irish: known for potatoes. Potatoes originated in the Americas Itailians: known for tomato sauce pasta dishes Tomatoes originated in the Americas Noodles originated in China Cowboys, as American it gets, rode horses Horses were brought over from Europe
Fun Fact: While Tomato originated from Peru the italian pasta doesn't really have anything to do with the Chinese noodles. The Italian pasta was more of rediscovery as a form of it dated since the Roman empire but it wasn't boiled it was baked. The Arabic invasion influenced and helped pasta become what it is today.
Cowboy culture as we know in the US came from Mexico and before then it came from Spain. I always find it weird that people in the US think it came straight from Europe. It's like someone coming into high school one day and making Emo punk style popular in that school but when one of the people who got influenced by him gets asked where he got that style from he says it's from a Celebrity when he clearly got it from that one guy who made it popular in his school in the first place. It's a weird deflection when it came from your neighbor and it's Okay to say so. I think a bigger problem is when credit isn't properly given thus people get aggravated.
I am a white guy, and "cultural appropriation" is one of many reasons I avoid talking to people my age anymore. It's really difficult to talk to a lot of young'uns. People have massive egos, and they jump to wild conclusions with no basis at all. I've been called a racist, a bigot, this, that, and the other thing. I am none of those things, I am a fair person to all. It just doesn't make sense that this crowd of hypersensitive college kids thinks they will solve anything by viciously hating everybody who is a white man. Hate hasn't solved anything, ever. It certainly won't solve whatever issues these poor young people are in the streets screaming about. God help them.
Do you actually meet people who think cultural appropriation is a thing?...I get annoyed online with this nonsense, but honestly I've never met anyone who really thinks like this....and the comments section on these videos are overwhelmingly saying the whole idea is stupid.
I live in South Africa, my ancestors came from France, my mother tongue originated in the Netherlands, I have family in the Middle East, my favorite band is from Norway, I wear clothes that were made in China, I have a phone that was made in South Korea, I drive a German car, my favorite foods are from India and Japan, and I drink Italian coffee. Oh, and I have dreads. Guess I'm fucked.
Am African and I'm amazed at how petty and silly such a pertinent issue is being made to seem. Who cares about why a Chinese dude thinks dreadlocks are cool? And how is that not even a celebration of black culture? Cultural appropriation as an argument, in my opinion, would be better used to shine a spotlight on the separation of a people from their culture in such a way as to possibly rob them of their identity. Like how the internet says that "the claim that Ancient Egypt - particularly the Old Kingdom - was black" is an anachronism. That as black people, we cannot claim Ancient Egyptian Civilization as whites claim Ancient Greek Civilization because the concepts of black and white are a modern-day construct. And personally I think that argument is STUPID. The white people who say that probably went to school and ought to know better!
Bro, as a mexican myself, if i knew that, say, an american or asian family celebrates Dia de los Muertos each year, id be more than happy, id be flattered that someone from another part of the world is not only acknowledging my culture but also appreciating its beauty and im sure i speak for 99% of mexicans when i say this. On the other hand, if some american saw that a non-mexican family is celebrating Dia de los Muertos, im 200% sure that person would start a cancel culture campaing on twitter against that family goddamn
The celebration would lose its power, history, and soul really fast. The reason it is so honored and revered is because it has been held within a culture and a belief system that is unique to Mexico. I think it would get watered down and the meaning would be lost. From my experience as an outsider, it seems to be rooted in having strong ties to family, ancestors, Catholicism, and death all of which are mostly absent in life from my perspective, as a white woman in the USA.
@@karateninjaheist8032 i guess you could be right from that perspective. Yeah, i can see how in some ways it can lose its importance and meaning but only if you dont celebrate it in the appropriate way. If you properly respect the tradition of Dia de Muertos and maintain it as the years go, i even thing it could even benefit the culture by helping to preserve the tradition. I honestly dont see the problem at all regardless of where you're from
In America people get confused between race and nationality I love the Mexican holiday días los muertos. But Cinco de mayo is a fake holiday for Mexican Americans. Just like Christmas isn't about Jesus
I think its different when there is a stigma or double standard against the group that has culturally developed a certain art form. You cant start complementing everyone else for wearing a sari when we consider/imply it is unprofessional for Indian women to wear one to work for example... just as an example
Well, when Jackie Robinson signed into the major leagues the first time, or the first pro golfer... the common thing said was, “this is ours” maybe I worded that wrong.... lol
it's 2017, literally everything is cultural appropriation, I like keeping and celebrating your own culture but not allowing different people to use something just because your people invented it is just so petty and stupid
+Walter White The real argument that drives cultural appropriation is the claim that white people don't possess a culture and have been tyranizing other civilization, conquering it to assimilate it into their culture. Total bollocks, of course.
Walter White Maybe my high school is just really good, but I've never heard a single complaint of cultural appropriation. I guess we just don't care, which we shouldn't
That was mainly seen with the young Mexican cholas from LA. Not every latino is Mexican. I'm half puerto rican and dominican and I ain't never seen any of my people wear that.
'Culture' is literally the things that an ethnic group make available for other ethnicities to consume. Within a culture's own existence these things are called tradition, not culture. Culture exists to be appropriated, or more commonly, shared with others to shine a light on the best practices arising from other ethnic or geographic groups/locations. And Jeremy Lin is an example of what happens when you pay a little attention in college, instead of just enjoying the free ride like K-Mart apparently did.
That is such a good point. It is afterall how the whole trade system works, trading of cultural goods between societies. I had thought that 'cultural appropriation' was about claiming an idea was your own, not giving the recognition to the original culture, not just using a product or cooking a type of food, ect.
@@marcuscollins7622 Yes, exactly. If I tried to resell a dreamcatcher I bought from a Native American reserve as my own 'original Danish folk art', I would absolutely see that as appropriating someone else's culture. But someone who feels the need to 'go off' on a rando white dude for showing off his little $10 piece of Native folk art, that he accepts and appreciates AS Native folk art, that's just woke insanity.
@@adamrasmussen9939 Exactly. It is like people don't understand it is cultural appreciation not appropriation to enjoy different clothes, food, entertainment ect
Honestly people take cultural appropriation to the extreme, And that’s when it becomes so damn stupid and ridiculous as shit fr. If you’re wearing sacred items that are not to be worn as costumes, taking a different culture and making it your own, using that certain culture to make fun of it, making racist remarks about it, claiming that culture would “look better” if you make changes to it, exploiting the culture, or benefiting off of it without knowing the some of the struggles behind certain cultures, THEN it’s cultural appropriation. The whole damn world is a melting pot of different cultures. There is not one culture in The entire human race that does not practice or use different cultures when it comes to their different lives. The music, the clothing, the food, the movies, the TV shows, the arts, whatever, it’s all a mix of different cultures. I’m Hispanic/ Mexican with some Indigenous blood, and I love it when people show admiration and love for Mexican culture as long as they’re not disrespecting it or being racist towards it, this whole cultural appropriating is going way too far and it’s starting to become racist. Also, a lot of the claims of cultural appropriation are not even coming from the people that you use the culture from, it’s coming from supreme white liberals who are taking it way too far. To the liberals who act like that: YOU DO NOT SPEAK FOR THE CULTURE. Just stfu and quit acting like you are the supreme authorities on what is cultural appropriation and cultural appreciation. Just please shut up. People like that are the ones who divide people. Culture is what brings people together, and when we share different cultures and show appreciation and love for them, we make this world including our nations even more beautiful. For me I love Japanese culture, I deeply admire and appreciate it for the art, history, and way of life. What got me into Japanese culture as a kid What is the love for the samurai class. Hell my dad made me a whole samurai armor because I was obsessed with samurai warriors as a kid. Are liberals going to claim that I was culturally appropriating Japanese culture because I wanted to dress like a samurai, simply for admiring them, appreciating them and loving them? Ridiculous as hell. At this point cultural appropriation is just stupid, knock it off and quit making it into something that it is not. Unless there is blasphemy, racism, and disrespect, then it’s not cultural appropriation. If you worried that you’re culturally appropriating something, look into the culture and learn about it, the dues and don’ts of what you’re supposed to do, and how you can show respect and appreciation. SIMPLE!
You didn't just hit the nail on the head. You shattered the damn board. You are spot-on! This is what I tell people. Cultural appropriation is a term often used by anti-white bigots.
I’m American and I lived in New Zealand for 2 years. I have a deep love for the Māori culture. When. I got home I started a Polynesian inspired clothing brand that promotes Mental Health and Physical fitness as equal partners. Gotten really amazing and positive feedback but got 1 person saying I was doing culture appropriation. They were so nasty and mean to me. This brand was a celebration of how moved I was by the Māori culture.
I am 100% percent with Rogan. People should not be limited on what they should wear, especially in a country like the United States, where the exchange of cultural ideas is inevitable. My father, when he was a 16 year old political prisoner in Cuba at La Cabaña, would always see people getting sent to UMAP concentration camps for having long hair and wearing distinct clothing, be it religious attire or for being part of the general counterculture. My family, as well as many other immigrant families, sure as hell did not come to America in order to face other groups of people who wish to dictate forms of expressions after the hell we've faced in our home countries... That being said, it is extremely important to give credit to the origins of where certain apparel and aesthetic practices come from, as well as preventing exploitative behaviors that stem from ignorance- but that lies in education, not harassing people who are genuinely interested in participating in other cultures.
But if ppl enslaved other ppl in the past,joking about and imitating things we were ridiculed for and making money from it is an issue.We don't take it as admiration we take it as you making fun of us and you can't tell us how to feel and saying "fuck what they say" then makes it disrespectful and flat out racist.
I just saw on UA-cam today there was an American farmer that went to Mexico and invented a new shorter wheat that could grow better in Mexico and introduced them to new pest control. He basically brought Mexican agriculture to where it needed to be for their population...so in a way, an American farmer was one of the most pivotal players in the Mexican cuisine we have today
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Hoop earing have been around for thousands of years, bazerkas,visagoths, Persians all had them.
The left says that gender is a social construct when it's actually race that's a social construct. Everyone is human, and all race is, is how your physical features react in a different environment, and yet we've turned it into something far grander. Cultural appropriation is dumb, and instead of separating cultures we need to embrace them.
the thing about it is that black culture has been scrutinized for years but as soon as a white person does it it’s automatically accepted, thats the problem
@@jothamdenegall9377 yeah but the problem is that your definition of ”cultural appropriation” is someone else (white, cause for some reason no one else can do it...) claiming that their people have created the thing they’re supposedly appropriated. But never have I heard a single white rapper claiming that whites created the culture. Or a white guy wearin dreadlocks saying that whites invented it... And if it goes like that, then by that logic not anyone else but whites should use electric device, cars, planes, computers etc.
I am in my late 60s and taking a fiction writing class at a local community, and I never heard this term before. Because I'm into Asian things, I often place some of my characters in places I've been to in Asia. So, one kid in my class says, "We have to consider 'cultural appropriation'." So, I asked what that was. When he "explained" it, I literally flipped out! Really! I'm tiny - only 4'9" (technically a midget - not a dwarf). And I'm old and short and female. I couldn't stand it, and I leaped from my chair and jumped into the middle of the room and shouted, "That's the most stupid thing I have ever heard! So, you mean, I can only write about old white women?" (I forgot to mention the midget part.) Then I ranted "And don't you DARE put an old person into your stories because you have NO clue what it's like to be old." And I had handed out a couple of my papers that I had set in China, and literally grabbed them back from two "Asian -half" girls, and said, "I'll take these back! I wrote about China! Of course, it's not a real story, because it's a FICTION class, but I'll take them back!" And I grabbed them and kept ranting, and I think this week I might be deleted from the class... But I thought it was the stupidest thing I ever heard. I couldn't believe it. So, now no one can write anything unless it is about YOU. I was so angry. Not to mention I was raised back east (I'm in California now), and it was totally multi-cultural where I came from. If you were in Italian neighborhood, you knew not to futz with the Mafia, you went and had some good Italian food, or got a great apartment because it was a nice neighborhood. I mean the Poles (Polish), the Irish, the Blacks, the Jews, a whole slew of different cultures easily lived side-by-side and it was great! But now??? Man, this is BS. I cannot believe people are doing this. And you're right - it's not even THEIR culture! What is this about? So, this old lady went bonkers on these young kids, but having grown up during the 60s when people were into all cultures and now to be told you can't be in ANY culture but your own is totally nuts!! Thanks for ranting, too! :D Lily
Appreciate culture just dont fucking exploit it for fashion sometimes we respect when foreigners wear our clothing and eat our food theres nothing wrong until you give it another name or exploit it
@@xareedfarah I honestly never heard of anything like that ever happening. And if it did it's not "cultural appropriation" it's just them being a dumbass or a crack head
Jeremy's response was great. Dread locks don't come from not washing your hair, they come from not combing your hair. You HAVE to wash your hair or else the oils secreted from your scalp will prevent your hair from binding together into locks.
Ok. No more electricity, airplanes, cars, spaghetti, pizza, lightbulbs, blonde hair, cell phones, computers, facebook, google, hamburgers, hot dogs...or its cultural appropriation
Love it when Joe goes gung-ho straight for the jugular in these sort of rants. People usually have a negative connotation associated with the term 'rant' but when done correctly it really expresses one's core, authentic, unfiltered raw beauty.
The big one I always see online is clothing cultural appropriation...it’s not like clothes have a tag that says only be worn by one race and one race only.
There’s going to come a day when people are going to call it “cultural appropriation “ if you make fun of your own culture, and those people getting offended will be Americans, like always
What if a person, raised alone in the jungle... By wolves .. was brought into society. But before they met anyone they needed clothes. So they were put in a mall containing all kinds of clothes from different cultures. There was no images of people ... This person didn't even realize they were a race or there was other races... Then they come out with air Force ones, baggy jeans, a golf shirt, anime hoodie and hoop earrings they also had there hair in dreads.. as that's what happened to it naturally in the jungle .. so they come out dressed like that to join society. Will they be accused of cultural appropriation?! Asking for a friend.
I watched a doc on the Rolling Stones and Howling Wolf was on it. He said he loved the stones for singing his songs to the world. They made him relevant to a whole new generation and different audiences. Cultural appropriation is a problem when idiots do not understand what it is.
I am sure ,just had a "shock" about this shit as i ve started to use twitter and saw that pokimane was called out by a random person the call out didn t recieve traction or whatever but the person called her out that she was doing cultural appropriation because she had curly hair. So because she had curly hair she was trying to look black. WHAT THE ACTUAL HELL IS GOING ON IN THIS WORLD???? WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK? I... i am speechless. I am actually almost at a loss of words right now. When did curly hair and other stuff become a thing only for some people? What... what.... dafuq. Isn t the idea that we are all mixed??? More and more we start to marry and date different cultures... we become one more and more. All racism is gone and everything and now we also share cultures as we all bond... its insanity i literally can t arrange thoughts in my head. I guess i just had a shock from twitter lmao 🤣🤣🤣 as a noob on twitter i actually got shocked
i love this. just subscribed. the entire point of a melding pot was to blend cultures not segregate ourselves wirhin our own culture. that's not progressive
& joe you're right, that is the point of a civilization for all of us to come together and share our cultural luxuries. Food music etc. But with how the media is all that's ever promoted really is seperation amongst the people through divide and conquer
Black tiktoker creates dance. White tiktoker makes millions off of it... We live in the age of pluralism. I'm black but enjoy heavy metal and alternative rock more than rap. I tried to get through to my little niece that she can take interests in other people's cultures and still maintain her own identity as a young black child (pluralism.) I have no problem with white people taking interests in black culture; it's Martin Luther King's dream, but don't dance like us, walk like us, talk like us and then try to suppress our vote or tell us to stop being victims when we voice our concern about inequity and injustice.
Well, if you don't want cultural appropriation; stop using math, don't learn how to read, stop using clothes, don't use money, don't travel, don't use buildings or build stuff.
It's his studio, and yes, I thought that it was going to be different from the old one but he didn't create it for other people to like it. He created based on his liking and his interests.
What I think is hypocritical is that leftists argue that gender is a social construct, not a biological trait, and therefore anyone can be any gender they want. However culture is also a social construct, yet cannot be used or "appropriated" by others. The fact that a man can wear a dress and call himself a female, yet isn't allowed to wear a sombrero just to celebrate a culture, absolutely baffles me.
They like to use The Nightmare Before Christmas as an example of what cultural appropriation does. But I just think: What you get is unique film that combines the best aspects of both holidays and creates something greater than the sum of its parts. An instant classic that's annually watched by millions to this day. They just disagree on when to watch it: Halloween or Christmas. I think I'll split the difference this year and make it a Thanksgiving double feature with Planes, Trains, and Automobiles.
I think part of why it’s such a big deal is because people are not really appreciating the origins or understanding the backgrounds of how something came to be. And more so wearing aspects of other cultures like a costume. Especially when it comes to aspects/ characteristics that are synonymous with oppression in the originating culture and glorified by others for clout and/or are used to sell products.
So all these hat racks who rant about cultural appropriation… they BETTER NOT ever eat Mexican good if they’re not Mexican… sushi if they are not Japanese… pasta with sauce if they are not Italian… GTFO with this. It created division and is racist! It’s nice when people adopt stuff from other cultures… it creates inclusion and is showing that they like that aspect and have respect enough to want to borrow something… it’s a compliment. I’m part Caucasian and part Native American and I LOVE my dreads. Love this podcast!
Dudes with hair should not be allowed to shave their heads. We baldys own that.
dudes with no hair don't get to make rules baldy LMAO
420 henry
That's hairist and I'm offended.........just kidding p.s. I'm also a baldy
I just slapped a white guy in Starbucks, he had curly hair, told him only blacks could have curly hair, I was so offended.
what about dudes with hair that are balding
Jose Rosello possibly the best comment on this list and i wont even read another as i don't wanna see a better one
“You didn’t create it! You were just born.” Stop with the common sense, Joe.
Not so common anymore apparently
Y’all sound dumb as hell
@@JJ-ur1hh no you
right?!, it might dazzle these woke people too much, and get them choke on their quinoa dinner
cultural appropriation tends to put up more barriers than it brings down. "you cant have dreads, your white" "you can't have chinese symbols tattooed on you, you arent chinese", i just dont see how telling someone 'you can't do something because of the colour of your skin' is progress.
The best part is the Minoans are the oldest people recorded to use dreadlocks. Fun fact, Minoans were ancient greeks aka white men. So yeah, africans stole white culture and called it their own.
@@TheAlphatitan sad how people take false history as fact and then attack people because of this bullshit when they're the one doing the appropriation. Bro this cultural appropriation bullshit is literally what the United States is founded on, and most of these people are just plain stupid.
@@TheAlphatitan Europa was a black goddess. I bet you can guess why.
@@YaqobStanding she was a phoenician, I’d say brown skinned. But I mean, she’s depicted as white for the same reason Jesus gets depicted as white with blond hair and blue eyes (it would be impossible for a Jew born in the Middle East to have blond hair blue eyes and white skin)
@@TheAlphatitan ‘brown’ skin.. not ‘pink’?.. it’s almost as if there’s been some sort of historical iconoclasm and whitewashing.. that’s odd.
Nothing is sacred. No one owns anything. Nothing lasts forever. Stop caring what other people do unless it gets someone hurt.
There ya go. That's the way to be
But but it hurts my feelings..
words to live by my dude
@Dominic Lee NO. Only Whites who have no flavour, style, rhythm say this. Whites originally made fun blacks hair style, music, fashion, seasoned Food NOW whites it’s cool.... Naaah fuk off
Yes caltural appropriation is just is for snowflakes
im latina and a hoop earring advocate for every woman
Laura Padron
I'm Irish and an advocate for Guinness and Jameson for everyone
I'm a human and don't give a fuck what you do, and I love you.
Keith Deegan I'm with you there. 😊
Keith Deegan - you, Sir... are a man among men.
Keith Deegan The most Irish thing any Irishman could say.
As a latina I am happy to share my culture. The more people engage in it, obviously not trying to disrespect it, then the more we are accepted. To be honest I dont really feel unnacepted overall anyways. If I did I would be like sjw and lying to keep people down. Im over it.
RIght but you dont genuinely believe that big hoop earrings are only part of 1 culture do you?
@@treyjetson5320 😂😂 of course not
I know right theres also gypsys💀
I'm half puerto rican and dominican, pure Caribbean, I went out to the local fetisval in my neighborhood in nyc, saw a white lady and a Asian guy dancing to bachata is a very bad way and I was trying so hard to hold back my laughter omg 😆. That was bad but i guess they weren't hurting anyone lol.
So many people in America lack identity so they attached themselves to fake identity.
I was learning Spanish and a Latino Americans who did not speak Spanish was offended I speak Spanish better than him Chicano culture is not Mexico or from Spain. It's ghetto. If a white guy wears dreadlocks because it come from Egypt black people get mad. If I wear a Pancho your not Mexico if I wear a use slang your stealing from aave. Etc etc
What ever happened to "Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery." Cultural appropriation is total, guilt trippy BS!!!!
William Wood the king of rock ended all that check your history
I wish I could upvote this twice. America is supposed to be a melting pot of cultures. I guess some people want segregation again
I feel like the examples that they were using is pretty much just glorified gatekeeping I feel like real cultural appropriations when someone uses another race's culture as a prop like wearing a native American costume for Halloween
"Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery ... that MEDIOCRITY can pay to greatness.”- Oscar Wilde.
Irish: known for potatoes.
Potatoes originated in the Americas
Itailians: known for tomato sauce pasta dishes
Tomatoes originated in the Americas
Noodles originated in China
Cowboys, as American it gets, rode horses
Horses were brought over from Europe
Fun Fact: While Tomato originated from Peru the italian pasta doesn't really have anything to do with the Chinese noodles. The Italian pasta was more of rediscovery as a form of it dated since the Roman empire but it wasn't boiled it was baked. The Arabic invasion influenced and helped pasta become what it is today.
horses originated in america though before the spanish brought them back.
Cowboy culture as we know in the US came from Mexico and before then it came from Spain. I always find it weird that people in the US think it came straight from Europe. It's like someone coming into high school one day and making Emo punk style popular in that school but when one of the people who got influenced by him gets asked where he got that style from he says it's from a Celebrity when he clearly got it from that one guy who made it popular in his school in the first place. It's a weird deflection when it came from your neighbor and it's Okay to say so. I think a bigger problem is when credit isn't properly given thus people get aggravated.
@@MagekyouGeass thanks i learned something
Swiss: known for chocolate
Chocolate originated in Mexico
Some of the best Vietnamese restaurants in Orange County are cooked by Mexicans.
Most of the best restaurants in the US are staffed with amazing Mexican and latinx cooks and chefs. Regardless of type of cuisine.
@@sean0009 yes exactly we’re all just people . And people do what people do we create we learn we share.
@@oldworldblu3s305 that’s the beauty of American culture
I’ve seen that too
CuLtUrAl ApPrOpRiAtIoN
I am a white guy, and "cultural appropriation" is one of many reasons I avoid talking to people my age anymore. It's really difficult to talk to a lot of young'uns.
People have massive egos, and they jump to wild conclusions with no basis at all. I've been called a racist, a bigot, this, that, and the other thing. I am none of those things, I am a fair person to all.
It just doesn't make sense that this crowd of hypersensitive college kids thinks they will solve anything by viciously hating everybody who is a white man. Hate hasn't solved anything, ever. It certainly won't solve whatever issues these poor young people are in the streets screaming about.
God help them.
Do you actually meet people who think cultural appropriation is a thing?...I get annoyed online with this nonsense, but honestly I've never met anyone who really thinks like this....and the comments section on these videos are overwhelmingly saying the whole idea is stupid.
@@nakkadu twitter.
@@laurae7777 ah....never used it so lucky me I guess.
Stop people from dressing the way they like based on their skin colour isn't gonna solve anything too but they just keep doing it. Bs af
Sorry, bro, but refusing to talk to people was invented by the Sumerians.
I live in South Africa, my ancestors came from France, my mother tongue originated in the Netherlands, I have family in the Middle East, my favorite band is from Norway, I wear clothes that were made in China, I have a phone that was made in South Korea, I drive a German car, my favorite foods are from India and Japan, and I drink Italian coffee. Oh, and I have dreads. Guess I'm fucked.
You listen to black metal?
I live on the same planet as other people of different cultures
Aweh
@@ryancarthen2198 Yip
@@ryanvandermerwe5587 Awe bra.
Am African and I'm amazed at how petty and silly such a pertinent issue is being made to seem. Who cares about why a Chinese dude thinks dreadlocks are cool? And how is that not even a celebration of black culture? Cultural appropriation as an argument, in my opinion, would be better used to shine a spotlight on the separation of a people from their culture in such a way as to possibly rob them of their identity. Like how the internet says that "the claim that Ancient Egypt - particularly the Old Kingdom - was black" is an anachronism. That as black people, we cannot claim Ancient Egyptian Civilization as whites claim Ancient Greek Civilization because the concepts of black and white are a modern-day construct. And personally I think that argument is STUPID. The white people who say that probably went to school and ought to know better!
I love how Jeremy Lin killed him with kindness. hahaha
Jeremy Lin is a true gentleman. A rarity these days.
SJW's: let's share our cultures!
also SJW's: NO DON'T DO THAT, IT'S MY CULTURE I OWN IT!
Cultural Appropriation is segregation. Change My Mind.
You’re correct
crowder
It is
Bro, as a mexican myself, if i knew that, say, an american or asian family celebrates Dia de los Muertos each year, id be more than happy, id be flattered that someone from another part of the world is not only acknowledging my culture but also appreciating its beauty and im sure i speak for 99% of mexicans when i say this. On the other hand, if some american saw that a non-mexican family is celebrating Dia de los Muertos, im 200% sure that person would start a cancel culture campaing on twitter against that family goddamn
Exactly I don't know why they are always pressed over things that is not their business
Well said!
The celebration would lose its power, history, and soul really fast. The reason it is so honored and revered is because it has been held within a culture and a belief system that is unique to Mexico. I think it would get watered down and the meaning would be lost. From my experience as an outsider, it seems to be rooted in having strong ties to family, ancestors, Catholicism, and death all of which are mostly absent in life from my perspective, as a white woman in the USA.
@@karateninjaheist8032 i guess you could be right from that perspective. Yeah, i can see how in some ways it can lose its importance and meaning but only if you dont celebrate it in the appropriate way. If you properly respect the tradition of Dia de Muertos and maintain it as the years go, i even thing it could even benefit the culture by helping to preserve the tradition. I honestly dont see the problem at all regardless of where you're from
In America people get confused between race and nationality I love the Mexican holiday días los muertos. But Cinco de mayo is a fake holiday for Mexican Americans. Just like Christmas isn't about Jesus
As a Latina, I love hoops and I want everyone else to love them too.
As a white girl im wit it let’s be friends XD
That's what I associate with
I remember when imitation was considered the highest form of flattery.
I think its different when there is a stigma or double standard against the group that has culturally developed a certain art form. You cant start complementing everyone else for wearing a sari when we consider/imply it is unprofessional for Indian women to wear one to work for example... just as an example
@@ndlovukazim318 Well, start complimenting Indian women then.
You don't own your culture because you didn't create it. Well said.
Yo I'm half-Greek and I'm offended by those olives in your salad. I better see nothing but leaves in there
Youre half-Greek? Nah man you can only be half offended, i better not see more than a 50% of offense in you
Culture appropriation is pretty much same as segregation.....
Well, when Jackie Robinson signed into the major leagues the first time, or the first pro golfer... the common thing said was, “this is ours” maybe I worded that wrong.... lol
it's 2017, literally everything is cultural appropriation, I like keeping and celebrating your own culture but not allowing different people to use something just because your people invented it is just so petty and stupid
Walter White you are correct!
+Walter White
The real argument that drives cultural appropriation is the claim that white people don't possess a culture and have been tyranizing other civilization, conquering it to assimilate it into their culture. Total bollocks, of course.
Walter White Maybe my high school is just really good, but I've never heard a single complaint of cultural appropriation. I guess we just don't care, which we shouldn't
It’s 2021, aint nothing changed
I had a WHITE guy tell me I was appropriating Latino culture because I wore hoops in my picture 😂🤣
It’s usually white people being the SJWs being offended on other people’s behalf
@ejc stxll facts
White girls be standing up for shit they dont even understand no cap. I swear they just follow trends and follow whatever
That was mainly seen with the young Mexican cholas from LA. Not every latino is Mexican. I'm half puerto rican and dominican and I ain't never seen any of my people wear that.
'Culture' is literally the things that an ethnic group make available for other ethnicities to consume. Within a culture's own existence these things are called tradition, not culture. Culture exists to be appropriated, or more commonly, shared with others to shine a light on the best practices arising from other ethnic or geographic groups/locations. And Jeremy Lin is an example of what happens when you pay a little attention in college, instead of just enjoying the free ride like K-Mart apparently did.
That is such a good point. It is afterall how the whole trade system works, trading of cultural goods between societies. I had thought that 'cultural appropriation' was about claiming an idea was your own, not giving the recognition to the original culture, not just using a product or cooking a type of food, ect.
@@marcuscollins7622 Yes, exactly. If I tried to resell a dreamcatcher I bought from a Native American reserve as my own 'original Danish folk art', I would absolutely see that as appropriating someone else's culture.
But someone who feels the need to 'go off' on a rando white dude for showing off his little $10 piece of Native folk art, that he accepts and appreciates AS Native folk art, that's just woke insanity.
@@adamrasmussen9939 Exactly. It is like people don't understand it is cultural appreciation not appropriation to enjoy different clothes, food, entertainment ect
The podcast is still live and your already uploading clips of it Fucking madman!
They have to be doing it on a delay.
I’m ashamed as a Latina that this hoop earrings debate was even brought up. People are just looking to pick fights.
Same people that cry culture appropriation , love globalism 😂😂😂
Right😂
Honestly people take cultural appropriation to the extreme, And that’s when it becomes so damn stupid and ridiculous as shit fr. If you’re wearing sacred items that are not to be worn as costumes, taking a different culture and making it your own, using that certain culture to make fun of it, making racist remarks about it, claiming that culture would “look better” if you make changes to it, exploiting the culture, or benefiting off of it without knowing the some of the struggles behind certain cultures, THEN it’s cultural appropriation. The whole damn world is a melting pot of different cultures. There is not one culture in The entire human race that does not practice or use different cultures when it comes to their different lives. The music, the clothing, the food, the movies, the TV shows, the arts, whatever, it’s all a mix of different cultures. I’m Hispanic/ Mexican with some Indigenous blood, and I love it when people show admiration and love for Mexican culture as long as they’re not disrespecting it or being racist towards it, this whole cultural appropriating is going way too far and it’s starting to become racist. Also, a lot of the claims of cultural appropriation are not even coming from the people that you use the culture from, it’s coming from supreme white liberals who are taking it way too far. To the liberals who act like that: YOU DO NOT SPEAK FOR THE CULTURE. Just stfu and quit acting like you are the supreme authorities on what is cultural appropriation and cultural appreciation. Just please shut up. People like that are the ones who divide people. Culture is what brings people together, and when we share different cultures and show appreciation and love for them, we make this world including our nations even more beautiful. For me I love Japanese culture, I deeply admire and appreciate it for the art, history, and way of life. What got me into Japanese culture as a kid What is the love for the samurai class. Hell my dad made me a whole samurai armor because I was obsessed with samurai warriors as a kid. Are liberals going to claim that I was culturally appropriating Japanese culture because I wanted to dress like a samurai, simply for admiring them, appreciating them and loving them? Ridiculous as hell. At this point cultural appropriation is just stupid, knock it off and quit making it into something that it is not. Unless there is blasphemy, racism, and disrespect, then it’s not cultural appropriation. If you worried that you’re culturally appropriating something, look into the culture and learn about it, the dues and don’ts of what you’re supposed to do, and how you can show respect and appreciation. SIMPLE!
You didn't just hit the nail on the head. You shattered the damn board. You are spot-on! This is what I tell people. Cultural appropriation is a term often used by anti-white bigots.
You can wear shit as costumes too just because you might offend someone doesn’t mean it should be banned that goes with anything
The Silk Road was built not only for spices, but about cultural exchange.
Cultural exchange has been around since 130 BC
"Culture is not your friend." - Terrence McKenna
I’m American and I lived in New Zealand for 2 years. I have a deep love for the Māori culture. When. I got home I started a Polynesian inspired clothing brand that promotes Mental Health and Physical fitness as equal partners. Gotten really amazing and positive feedback but got 1 person saying I was doing culture appropriation. They were so nasty and mean to me. This brand was a celebration of how moved I was by the Māori culture.
I am 100% percent with Rogan. People should not be limited on what they should wear, especially in a country like the United States, where the exchange of cultural ideas is inevitable. My father, when he was a 16 year old political prisoner in Cuba at La Cabaña, would always see people getting sent to UMAP concentration camps for having long hair and wearing distinct clothing, be it religious attire or for being part of the general counterculture. My family, as well as many other immigrant families, sure as hell did not come to America in order to face other groups of people who wish to dictate forms of expressions after the hell we've faced in our home countries... That being said, it is extremely important to give credit to the origins of where certain apparel and aesthetic practices come from, as well as preventing exploitative behaviors that stem from ignorance- but that lies in education, not harassing people who are genuinely interested in participating in other cultures.
But if ppl enslaved other ppl in the past,joking about and imitating things we were ridiculed for and making money from it is an issue.We don't take it as admiration we take it as you making fun of us and you can't tell us how to feel and saying "fuck what they say" then makes it disrespectful and flat out racist.
How do people have the time to come up with this stuff?
Richard Miller I dunno I’m not a woman
They are bored with quarantine and want to be mad with something
@@nichareebourwong647 This came out 3 years ago
@@nichareebourwong647 Outrage culture has been popular long before 2020.
I just saw on UA-cam today there was an American farmer that went to Mexico and invented a new shorter wheat that could grow better in Mexico and introduced them to new pest control. He basically brought Mexican agriculture to where it needed to be for their population...so in a way, an American farmer was one of the most pivotal players in the Mexican cuisine we have today
Hoop earing have been around for thousands of years, bazerkas,visagoths, Persians all had them.
Joe "Dont' tell me how to style my hair" Rogan
The left says that gender is a social construct when it's actually race that's a social construct. Everyone is human, and all race is, is how your physical features react in a different environment, and yet we've turned it into something far grander. Cultural appropriation is dumb, and instead of separating cultures we need to embrace them.
Facts
Thank god for Joe rogan, I don't agree with everything he says but you got to love common sense!
FINALLY, SOMEONE SPEAKS SOME TRUTH.
But joe is mad when people steal jokes. But all of black music is called America pop culture what a joke/ for everyone fuckoutmyface
New kid completely different... what a stupid point
the thing about it is that black culture has been scrutinized for years but as soon as a white person does it it’s automatically accepted, thats the problem
@@jothamdenegall9377 yeah but the problem is that your definition of ”cultural appropriation” is someone else (white, cause for some reason no one else can do it...) claiming that their people have created the thing they’re supposedly appropriated. But never have I heard a single white rapper claiming that whites created the culture. Or a white guy wearin dreadlocks saying that whites invented it... And if it goes like that, then by that logic not anyone else but whites should use electric device, cars, planes, computers etc.
I can't wait til my 2 year old starts school and gets to enjoy Pizza Friday renamed as Italian-american Sauce Bread Day.
I'm calling pizza 'sauce bread' from now on
I am in my late 60s and taking a fiction writing class at a local community, and I never heard this term before. Because I'm into Asian things, I often place some of my characters in places I've been to in Asia. So, one kid in my class says, "We have to consider 'cultural appropriation'." So, I asked what that was. When he "explained" it, I literally flipped out! Really! I'm tiny - only 4'9" (technically a midget - not a dwarf). And I'm old and short and female. I couldn't stand it, and I leaped from my chair and jumped into the middle of the room and shouted, "That's the most stupid thing I have ever heard! So, you mean, I can only write about old white women?" (I forgot to mention the midget part.) Then I ranted "And don't you DARE put an old person into your stories because you have NO clue what it's like to be old." And I had handed out a couple of my papers that I had set in China, and literally grabbed them back from two "Asian -half" girls, and said, "I'll take these back! I wrote about China! Of course, it's not a real story, because it's a FICTION class, but I'll take them back!" And I grabbed them and kept ranting, and I think this week I might be deleted from the class... But I thought it was the stupidest thing I ever heard. I couldn't believe it. So, now no one can write anything unless it is about YOU. I was so angry. Not to mention I was raised back east (I'm in California now), and it was totally multi-cultural where I came from. If you were in Italian neighborhood, you knew not to futz with the Mafia, you went and had some good Italian food, or got a great apartment because it was a nice neighborhood. I mean the Poles (Polish), the Irish, the Blacks, the Jews, a whole slew of different cultures easily lived side-by-side and it was great! But now??? Man, this is BS. I cannot believe people are doing this. And you're right - it's not even THEIR culture! What is this about? So, this old lady went bonkers on these young kids, but having grown up during the 60s when people were into all cultures and now to be told you can't be in ANY culture but your own is totally nuts!! Thanks for ranting, too! :D Lily
Baggy pants are just more comfortable honestly. Ya nuts need to breath.
Breathe.
You keep your culture and I keep mine and we will live separate in that way. That is segregation.
Appreciate culture just dont fucking exploit it for fashion sometimes we respect when foreigners wear our clothing and eat our food theres nothing wrong until you give it another name or exploit it
@@xareedfarah I honestly never heard of anything like that ever happening. And if it did it's not "cultural appropriation" it's just them being a dumbass or a crack head
@@xareedfarah lmfao
I’m Chinese. I have a Utility Kilt... cultural appropriation? LoL
Outrageous. :-p
Diversity is our strength, except when it comes to hoop earrings.
Jeremy's response was great. Dread locks don't come from not washing your hair, they come from not combing your hair. You HAVE to wash your hair or else the oils secreted from your scalp will prevent your hair from binding together into locks.
Finally I found a voice of reason on this ridiculous subject
One of the best things Joe has ever said.
Ok. No more electricity, airplanes, cars, spaghetti, pizza, lightbulbs, blonde hair, cell phones, computers, facebook, google, hamburgers, hot dogs...or its cultural appropriation
I don't have pierced ears but this makes me want to go out and pierce my ears and wear hoop earings
Love it when Joe goes gung-ho straight for the jugular in these sort of rants. People usually have a negative connotation associated with the term 'rant' but when done correctly it really expresses one's core, authentic, unfiltered raw beauty.
The big one I always see online is clothing cultural appropriation...it’s not like clothes have a tag that says only be worn by one race and one race only.
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!! i'm f'ing mixed and i get called racist for saying the same thing
There’s going to come a day when people are going to call it “cultural appropriation “ if you make fun of your own culture, and those people getting offended will be Americans, like always
Someone needs to post this on TikTok coz it’s toxic over there
OMG YEA
Twitter and Instagram as well.
Just everywhere in social media tbh
"Black girls don't want white girls to get dreads"
....isn't your weave from white girls?
#Beyonce
Actually a lot of weaves are Indian girls.
Billy Mech or Asian or Brazilian
Not usually actaully. Most of that hair is from India.
"Virginal" hair cost more. Most appropriations, come from Asian culture.
Bud Ramzy you sure about that bitch? I'd bet your fucking wrong moron. Oh wait. Mostly comes from Indian girls. Go on...
Pretty sure the first time I ever saw hoop earrings was on an ancient Egyptian drawing.
What if a person, raised alone in the jungle... By wolves .. was brought into society. But before they met anyone they needed clothes. So they were put in a mall containing all kinds of clothes from different cultures. There was no images of people ... This person didn't even realize they were a race or there was other races... Then they come out with air Force ones, baggy jeans, a golf shirt, anime hoodie and hoop earrings they also had there hair in dreads.. as that's what happened to it naturally in the jungle .. so they come out dressed like that to join society. Will they be accused of cultural appropriation?! Asking for a friend.
No.
I do not see it as an insult. It is an honor that you love some part of my culture so much, that you try to emulate it.
bro I had some bad views of Joe Rogan but this is really reciting my thoughts and developing on it this is fantastic
It’s the new outrage culture. I remember watching Dave Chapelle do skits on his show as a white guy and it was so damn funny because it was true!!!
Joe nails it again
Culture is about sharing. End
Well said Joe. People need to relax and embrace, not segregate and hate.
Well said Joe.
Tell it Joe!
Wow how things haven't changed they got worse over 2 years. Good work Joe and Jeremy calling out those morons who don't understand.
I watched a doc on the Rolling Stones and Howling Wolf was on it. He said he loved the stones for singing his songs to the world. They made him relevant to a whole new generation and different audiences. Cultural appropriation is a problem when idiots do not understand what it is.
At the end of the day, we are all Samoan.
Joe hit the nail on the fucking head with this BS👍
He did but next week he'll have a black liberal guest where he'll have a blaccent, agree with the typical liberal garbage and so on.
Imagine telling a black person they can’t wear certain clothes , or have to have their hair a certain way because they’re not white.
I’m so glad I found this! This cultural appropriation shit is ridiculous!
Looks weird without the pictures
1:54 My most commonly used phrase hahahah
I actually really love this video
I am sure ,just had a "shock" about this shit as i ve started to use twitter and saw that pokimane was called out by a random person the call out didn t recieve traction or whatever but the person called her out that she was doing cultural appropriation because she had curly hair. So because she had curly hair she was trying to look black. WHAT THE ACTUAL HELL IS GOING ON IN THIS WORLD???? WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK? I... i am speechless. I am actually almost at a loss of words right now. When did curly hair and other stuff become a thing only for some people? What... what.... dafuq. Isn t the idea that we are all mixed??? More and more we start to marry and date different cultures... we become one more and more. All racism is gone and everything and now we also share cultures as we all bond... its insanity i literally can t arrange thoughts in my head. I guess i just had a shock from twitter lmao 🤣🤣🤣 as a noob on twitter i actually got shocked
Next thing you know people will want bathrooms and water fountains separated by race 🙄
Are we allowed use the alphabet? phoenicians must be pissed
Im black and I approve of this message.
Good point Joe Rogan.
i love this. just subscribed. the entire point of a melding pot was to blend cultures not segregate ourselves wirhin our own culture. that's not progressive
Look at all the white boys mad in these comments lol
I'm so happy Joe Rogan exists ☺
"...and that's my culture, you can have it!"
I LOVE YOU JOE!!!!!!
& joe you're right, that is the point of a civilization for all of us to come together and share our cultural luxuries. Food music etc. But with how the media is all that's ever promoted really is seperation amongst the people through divide and conquer
Cultural appropriation is one of the most preposterous things I've ever heard of.
Lmfao 🤣 I was reading something and almost punched my phone 🤣 hilarious
So if I dress up as a member of the Boston tea party have I cross a line?
Where’s that Chinese girl who complained about the prom dress now? I’m not seeing the same outrage over all of these white corona virus patients 🤷🏻♂️
Black tiktoker creates dance. White tiktoker makes millions off of it...
We live in the age of pluralism. I'm black but enjoy heavy metal and alternative rock more than rap. I tried to get through to my little niece that she can take interests in other people's cultures and still maintain her own identity as a young black child (pluralism.)
I have no problem with white people taking interests in black culture; it's Martin Luther King's dream, but don't dance like us, walk like us, talk like us and then try to suppress our vote or tell us to stop being victims when we voice our concern about inequity and injustice.
“Suppress our vote” how so?
1:48 the best part 😂
Well, if you don't want cultural appropriation; stop using math, don't learn how to read, stop using clothes, don't use money, don't travel, don't use buildings or build stuff.
and stop participating in societies or democracy because that's greek.
bruh bing back the pics in the background
GwopUpEnt the Rosa parks one used to creep me out a Lil bit just a strange poster
The new studio is a slight disappointment. Mix it up a bit Joe.
Luke T they literally just moved in give it some time
Luke T it's no where near finished he just moved in
It's his studio, and yes, I thought that it was going to be different from the old one but he didn't create it for other people to like it. He created based on his liking and his interests.
Orenge
Still looks kinda mediocre finished or not
What I think is hypocritical is that leftists argue that gender is a social construct, not a biological trait, and therefore anyone can be any gender they want. However culture is also a social construct, yet cannot be used or "appropriated" by others. The fact that a man can wear a dress and call himself a female, yet isn't allowed to wear a sombrero just to celebrate a culture, absolutely baffles me.
They like to use The Nightmare Before Christmas as an example of what cultural appropriation does.
But I just think: What you get is unique film that combines the best aspects of both holidays and creates something greater than the sum of its parts. An instant classic that's annually watched by millions to this day.
They just disagree on when to watch it: Halloween or Christmas.
I think I'll split the difference this year and make it a Thanksgiving double feature with Planes, Trains, and Automobiles.
Joe Rogan is a refreshing voice of sanity on this issue.
I think part of why it’s such a big deal is because people are not really appreciating the origins or understanding the backgrounds of how something came to be. And more so wearing aspects of other cultures like a costume. Especially when it comes to aspects/ characteristics that are synonymous with oppression in the originating culture and glorified by others for clout and/or are used to sell products.
1:55 preachh haha lmfao
So all these hat racks who rant about cultural appropriation… they BETTER NOT ever eat Mexican good if they’re not Mexican… sushi if they are not Japanese… pasta with sauce if they are not Italian… GTFO with this. It created division and is racist! It’s nice when people adopt stuff from other cultures… it creates inclusion and is showing that they like that aspect and have respect enough to want to borrow something… it’s a compliment. I’m part Caucasian and part Native American and I LOVE my dreads. Love this podcast!