Good memories,I did hot gas tie-ins for three years,cold cutting gas lines,draining them,packing them with dry ice,putting in a plug and vent,welding on a 12" slip flange both sides installing a by pass,no lunch,no brakes,just get it done,I got whatever I wanted,I was taught by an old welder the safest way to do it,it's very dangerous,shell oil didn't care,in 1980 I was making 600.00 a day,it was union,342 san francisco,I was the only one,you do bring back the day's,I've welded with my whole arm under water,good job. '
That was awesome Auston, sure glad you stayed around and shared the finishing touches to the work you did. I learned something new today, put fresh batteries in the hearing aids sooner. The wife didn't say stand up, she said SHUT UP. Doc said I'll be able to see when the swelling goes down. Stay safe and have fun. Fred.
Hot damn! Loved this episode. Absolutely the coolest thing pipe work. What's amazing is the artistry that goes into the weld and the pride taken in the work, then it all gets covered up. Everyone has their role, but there's something extra special about the folks who work on America's infrastructure. So proud of what you're doing and sharing. This one bit of work is going to impact thousands in a positive way, and they would never know it if you didn't drop videos like this. Great Job!!!!
My worst shock came while welding bar joists to a horizontal I-beam. Late July in NC, 300% humidity, and sweating like a whore in church. Burning 5/32” 7018’s, every stitch of clothing soaked with sweat, I was sitting on the beam and had put a new rod in the stinger, decided to mop the water off of my face. The end of the electrode swung around and hit my right knee which was clad in soaked denim, and with my equally soaked butt sitting on the grounded beam, I got lit up and nearly fell off! Been zapped many times over my 40+ year career as a certified welder, but that one was by far and away the worst!
I’ve welded hot water lines full with water, but only at 5-20 lbs of pressure. The pipe was only weeping so I was able to stop it. When there’s too much pressure on it however; using 6010 especially, it’ll pop the puddle when it cools every time. I use low hydrogen and go fast enough to make it stop. And don’t get me started on getting shocked.. I feel ya on that one.. It’s always fun to “Ride the Lightning ⚡️“
New to your channel..... just learning VERY basic welding..... mig and oxyacetylene ..... restoring an old 48 willys jeep.... but really enjoying all your videos!!! Thank you for imparting your experience and knowledge !!!
last year we were repairing / rehanging a metal paddock gate in the middle of drought season so we were watering the field around our work as we welded and boy when you get stung you know it and quickly adjust what you are doing.. or rather how you are doing - never tried latex. glove liners but that is a great idea,
Well done brother..in Malaysia we use 6013 electrode to weld water pipelines...the same knowledge we do here bro, it uses the method of sticking wood on the surface of the pipeline
Used to to the same thing in the bottom of pulp wood barges. Wood peg driven in the hole, weld a piece of threaded pipe around the peg & screw on the top. Some of the nastiest work I have ever done.
Nice job! Some of those old pipe coatings may contain asbestos. Anything older than 1982 it's more likely. We'd call in abatement crews in west texas. Helps to keep it wet when it's removed - it's the dust that's bad. You may already know this. Just looking out for ya. Turned out slick!
Austin not sure if anyone mentioned the history behind the wooden peg in a water line, back in the day when water mains were made of wood, they would drive a wooden peg that was tapered ,the wooden peg wood swell up and seal the leak, fire hydrants used to be called fire plugs for that reason, when the bucket brigade would drill a hole in the wooden water main and they were done they would drive the plug in for future use. A little fun fact.
Doing maintenance work and replacing sections of pipe can test all your skill sets Done lots over the years . Gas lines can be a little exciting some times
I spent lots of time in holes like that. Whenever possible, I had them dig the deepest part of the hole behind me and put the pump there. That way the water runs away from you and you have a dry area to work in.
Yessir 🤙🏻 My 2nd time ever being on pipeline as a helper i had to travel with my welder to do a live repair. They wanted to get my feet wet early i guess 😂.
A little trick I learned when your gloves are wet, is to stick a rod in the ditch of your elbow and grab the rod with the stinger. There’s usually more insulation in the coat you’re wearing to avoid getting shocked (that is if you’re not already wearing a waterproof coat.)
100% no touchy rod with wet gloves. I always tried to set my rod holder up so I could grab it with the stinger. Thanks for sharing, good info in this one. Enjoy your Thanksgiving. !!
here in the lovely PNW... it rains, and it seems to rain the hardest when you have broken equipment that needs welding before day break... yeah wet gloves suck I'll have to remember the latex glove thing, even though I hates wearings thems hatesses thems
a place I went to had 2 big 10k water storage tanks. (Volume thing, fill over days with small pump, then quick fill for sprayers with 4” gravity discharge) Anyway, tanks were old, from 1930s. And those things were full of wood plugs. “If they start leaking we just jam a different new stick in the hole”
I don’t understand how you’d get shocked when putting in a new electrode if you gloves are wet but you have boots on. I also never understood how you don’t get shocked touching a piece of metal while someone is welding on it. (Or would you?) why is 110 a lot worse than a welder?
@@jimdarhower4945 To get shocked either way, you need to close the circuit with your body. The key thing is resistance, wet surfaces have less resistance than dry ones. As for the not getting shocked by touching metal that's being welded, that's because your skin has a higher resistance than the metal, so the current has a better path through the metal than through your skin. If your body is the only path with low enough resistance, you will get shocked. Volts, Amps, and whether is AC or DC also play a role.
If you weld enough, its not if you are going to get tickled/shocked, it just when. Just like burning yourself or catching yourself on fire. 😁 Been tickled a few times in the last 40 years. It gets your attention.
I generally used 6010,root and hot then a low high cap,7018.Surprised you didn't use a short pup on the flange for more clearance when welding.When finished the outside,,6010 the inside,root and hot.
How do you get a good weld when the pipe is live? Seems any liquid would super cool the metal and prevent good penetration? As far as welding on a live gas line well I don't have any desire to be anywhere near that operation!!
My worse shock was tig aluminum, I was laying on the floor of a livestock trailer tigging low on the wall and got the filler rod stuck to the tungsten, then touched my ear before I could get the thumb control off, yipeeeeeeeee
Have you ever worked in fuel contaminated soil ? A fellow had outhouse across from old gasbar in a small-town,wasn't allowed to smoke inside in winter so had his puff in outhouse ,threw his smoke in outhouse ,it blew up him ended up in snowbank pants down to his ankles in middle of town ...true story Ft Fraser BC
I seen pipelines with that type of coating and most of the time it’s asbestos, did they test it to make sure you wasn’t welding on asbesto and breathing those harmful fumes ?
What about 7018 3/32 . I burn thru today on a live main. Feel like If I had less penetration rod would of been better but idk how 7018 reacts on buried water pipes
Cool beans Austin! Will they saw a full bore I.D. hole at a later date? I was waitin' for the guah! Ha ha! Love your show. I'm hoping for a great improvement in vision soon in Dec., after laser treatment on dirty lens implants (like a dirty windshield), (who knew?). Blind man welding sucks!
Austin, this was a time and material job wasn't it? How is it that cross-country high-pressure pipe is all downhill but a relative low pressure water line required 7018 uphill on a "blind" that has no stress or strain or load on the 6" inch flange? Why not run a 8010 "bead" pass downhill inside and out then a cap pass with the 5/32? Good video as always and I have been in the ditch myself on take up and re-lay of oil line plus running 16" pipe in a ton of catfish ponds getting shocked as well!! In this situation a "seal weld" was required IMHO....
They could have stopped flow long enough to press a sleeve on an weld it in Or maybe run freeze plugs cut small section out an put new section in . Any of these options no good ? Just wondering I am learning myself . I’m not even a welder wish is was or at least knew how . but you can never have to many trades
On an old pipeline, would a 3/32 6010, downhand root, with 2-7018 cover passes work? I'm thinking a water pipe that old, would likely be pretty thin at the point the leak occurred, and might blow out with the 7018? Just curious, you did a beautiful job by the way. I'm Enjoying your content!
I’m a freshman in high school hoping to do this after I graduate and get my schooling done. Do you have any tips on preparing for pipeline welding and welding school itself?
Also what did u charge him if u don’t mind me asking..that’s the hardest part to me is knowing what to ask for when doing a job..it’s soo competitive nowadays and I’m just started doing field work on my own
Do you have an auto dark lens in that hood? Of you do what are you running? I have a Fibre Metal that I run with a static 10 shade that I wanted to swap out
Flange is needed to allow welder to do the job without the need to weld on water pouring on you. One day I welder big nut in the similar situation and then screwed bolt in it and welded bolt to nut
Good memories,I did hot gas tie-ins for three years,cold cutting gas lines,draining them,packing them with dry ice,putting in a plug and vent,welding on a 12" slip flange both sides installing a by pass,no lunch,no brakes,just get it done,I got whatever I wanted,I was taught by an old welder the safest way to do it,it's very dangerous,shell oil didn't care,in 1980 I was making 600.00 a day,it was union,342 san francisco,I was the only one,you do bring back the day's,I've welded with my whole arm under water,good job.
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Interesting comment, sir
That was awesome Auston, sure glad you stayed around and shared the finishing touches to the work you did. I learned something new today, put fresh batteries in the hearing aids sooner. The wife didn't say stand up, she said SHUT UP. Doc said I'll be able to see when the swelling goes down. Stay safe and have fun. Fred.
Thanks for showing practical applications like this and discussing issues like working in wet environments.
Hot damn! Loved this episode. Absolutely the coolest thing pipe work. What's amazing is the artistry that goes into the weld and the pride taken in the work, then it all gets covered up. Everyone has their role, but there's something extra special about the folks who work on America's infrastructure. So proud of what you're doing and sharing. This one bit of work is going to impact thousands in a positive way, and they would never know it if you didn't drop videos like this. Great Job!!!!
Don't matter if it gets covered up when your work is what's holding it together.
Need more content like this!! Hope you keep getting these jobs.
My worst shock came while welding bar joists to a horizontal I-beam. Late July in NC, 300% humidity, and sweating like a whore in church. Burning 5/32” 7018’s, every stitch of clothing soaked with sweat, I was sitting on the beam and had put a new rod in the stinger, decided to mop the water off of my face. The end of the electrode swung around and hit my right knee which was clad in soaked denim, and with my equally soaked butt sitting on the grounded beam, I got lit up and nearly fell off! Been zapped many times over my 40+ year career as a certified welder, but that one was by far and away the worst!
Im so glad you spoke on the shock factor, ive wondered about that for years now 🤙
I’ve welded hot water lines full with water, but only at 5-20 lbs of pressure.
The pipe was only weeping so I was able to stop it.
When there’s too much pressure on it however; using 6010 especially, it’ll pop the puddle when it cools every time. I use low hydrogen and go fast enough to make it stop.
And don’t get me started on getting shocked.. I feel ya on that one.. It’s always fun to “Ride the Lightning ⚡️“
Goes even more in depth with torque specs and sequence of bolt up ! 👍🏾🤙🏾
Awesome video! Water pressure increases 1/2 pound per foot of elevation. 10 feet of head = 5 pounds.
Ver y difficult looking weld. Sweet looking work.
New to your channel..... just learning VERY basic welding..... mig and oxyacetylene ..... restoring an old 48 willys jeep.... but really enjoying all your videos!!! Thank you for imparting your experience and knowledge !!!
You should check out; make it custom.
I'd like to see more water pipeline welding videos. Water is just as important (more important really) as gas and oil. Thanks Austin!
Definitely more important tho we haven't prioritized it that way
did you ever sit in a small boot and the boot goes up and down and any which way welding in Toronto can.harbour.80s.
Sheeww buddy, sure is nice to see ole A ROSS lying horizontal on his mud board welding up on some 36" pipe
I would love to learn more on welding. I'm a every now and then hobby welder, but I'm learning a lot from your videos
Nice job. The latex glove trick is one I figured out after getting zapped a few times when I first started out.
I learned , one shock and I lay the rod on dry ground and grab it. Great video.
I did enjoy it and I did learn something. Thank you!
last year we were repairing / rehanging a metal paddock gate in the middle of drought season so we were watering the field around our work as we welded and boy when you get stung you know it and quickly adjust what you are doing.. or rather how you are doing - never tried latex. glove liners but that is a great idea,
That arc strike tho 💥 😮oops
I really enjoyed this video. Brings back a lot of memories. Sure do like your videos. Keep them coming.
Well done brother..in Malaysia we use 6013 electrode to weld water pipelines...the same knowledge we do here bro, it uses the method of sticking wood on the surface of the pipeline
Reminds me of discharge dredge pipe repairs on an offshore hydraulic sand dredge
Used to to the same thing in the bottom of pulp wood barges. Wood peg driven in the hole, weld a piece of threaded pipe
around the peg & screw on the top. Some of the nastiest work I have ever done.
Nice job! Some of those old pipe coatings may contain asbestos. Anything older than 1982 it's more likely. We'd call in abatement crews in west texas. Helps to keep it wet when it's removed - it's the dust that's bad. You may already know this. Just looking out for ya. Turned out slick!
My thoughts exactly on the wrapping...
Take really good care, when working with that stuff.
Otherwise great job 👍
In the modern world we use plastic pipes for water ;) Awesome video as always Austin, take care!
Noticed that you were using your nondomate hand. Looks like a good job with it. Keep up the good work and have a great weekend.
Austin not sure if anyone mentioned the history behind the wooden peg in a water line, back in the day when water mains were made of wood, they would drive a wooden peg that was tapered ,the wooden peg wood swell up and seal the leak, fire hydrants used to be called fire plugs for that reason, when the bucket brigade would drill a hole in the wooden water main and they were done they would drive the plug in for future use. A little fun fact.
Doing maintenance work and replacing sections of pipe can test all your skill sets Done lots over the years . Gas lines can be a little exciting some times
Very cool. Great job Austin.
I spent lots of time in holes like that. Whenever possible, I had them dig the deepest part of the hole behind me and put the pump there. That way the water runs away from you and you have a dry area to work in.
Cool stuff Austin
awsome brother ROSS! great video fun repair,keep up the good work/im in moundsville wv in the river so we doing wet things,im on 30"600wall
u had that truck at the 798 hall.good to see.dang its only been a week but seems like a month
Yessir 🤙🏻
My 2nd time ever being on pipeline as a helper i had to travel with my welder to do a live repair. They wanted to get my feet wet early i guess 😂.
Very interesting as usual, thanks for sharing 👍
A little trick I learned when your gloves are wet, is to stick a rod in the ditch of your elbow and grab the rod with the stinger. There’s usually more insulation in the coat you’re wearing to avoid getting shocked (that is if you’re not already wearing a waterproof coat.)
Excellent work,I love it thanks 🙏🙏👍👍❤❤
Good stuff ARoss 🇺🇸👍
100% no touchy rod with wet gloves. I always tried to set my rod holder up so I could grab it with the stinger. Thanks for sharing, good info in this one. Enjoy your Thanksgiving. !!
here in the lovely PNW... it rains, and it seems to rain the hardest when you have broken equipment that needs welding before day break... yeah wet gloves suck I'll have to remember the latex glove thing, even though I hates wearings thems hatesses thems
a place I went to had 2 big 10k water storage tanks. (Volume thing, fill over days with small pump, then quick fill for sprayers with 4” gravity discharge)
Anyway, tanks were old, from 1930s. And those things were full of wood plugs. “If they start leaking we just jam a different new stick in the hole”
Great video sir!! You make me wanna get shocked while learning something new 😂
Yes I agree I have only got shocks like that as well every other time been fine
I would absolutely love to get to meet you I live in Shawnee Oklahoma and him on the verge of finishing up my second year of Votech for welding
I would like to see how and where you attached the ground clamp.
I work on a irrigation farm and deal with this type of pipe weldin, she’s her own breed! 😂😂
Dammn. That water man could made his job so much easier with an impact wrench
Great video thanks
I always tell people be more cautious of your grinder extension cord in the water 110 is a lot worse than getting buzzed by your welder
I don’t understand how you’d get shocked when putting in a new electrode if you gloves are wet but you have boots on. I also never understood how you don’t get shocked touching a piece of metal while someone is welding on it. (Or would you?) why is 110 a lot worse than a welder?
@@jimdarhower4945
To get shocked either way, you need to close the circuit with your body.
The key thing is resistance, wet surfaces have less resistance than dry ones.
As for the not getting shocked by touching metal that's being welded, that's because your skin has a higher resistance than the metal, so the current has a better path through the metal than through your skin.
If your body is the only path with low enough resistance, you will get shocked.
Volts, Amps, and whether is AC or DC also play a role.
@ GoldSrc - makes sense. Thanks for the explanation.
Also the return path through ground clamp is lower resistance than your body.
If you weld enough, its not if you are going to get tickled/shocked, it just when. Just like burning yourself or catching yourself on fire. 😁
Been tickled a few times in the last 40 years. It gets your attention.
LMAO!!! On the wood peg can be touchy! Have been there many of times.
Nothing like tig welding in the rain.
U R AWESOME!!!
I generally used 6010,root and hot then a low high cap,7018.Surprised you didn't use a short pup on the flange for more clearance when welding.When finished the outside,,6010 the inside,root and hot.
How do you get a good weld when the pipe is live? Seems any liquid would super cool the metal and prevent good penetration? As far as welding on a live gas line well I don't have any desire to be anywhere near that operation!!
My worse shock was tig aluminum, I was laying on the floor of a livestock trailer tigging low on the wall and got the filler rod stuck to the tungsten, then touched my ear before I could get the thumb control off, yipeeeeeeeee
......."it was at that moment he knew, he f..ked up.."....😂
good content. Thanks.
Have you ever worked in fuel contaminated soil ? A fellow had outhouse across from old gasbar in a small-town,wasn't allowed to smoke inside in winter so had his puff in outhouse ,threw his smoke in outhouse ,it blew up him ended up in snowbank pants down to his ankles in middle of town ...true story Ft Fraser BC
Electric welding in a puddle of water what could go wrong.....lol Love the videos!
Great job sir!
I seen pipelines with that type of coating and most of the time it’s asbestos, did they test it to make sure you wasn’t welding on asbesto and breathing those harmful fumes ?
Like the good ole days eh
So wait..the flange was just to repair the hole ? The flange acted as a bandaid in this situation?
did you two hole the flange??
Surprised you used 7018, l know you had a reason, can you tell me, great job
I don’t mind getting shocked with my wet welding gloves. Sometimes I’ll be falling asleep welding piles and it will wake me up. Good to go😂🤪
I weld nozzles on live water mains all the time so they can be tapped. I Always run 1/8” 5P down.😁 Don’t blow through!
What about 7018 3/32 . I burn thru today on a live main. Feel like If I had less penetration rod would of been better but idk how 7018 reacts on buried water pipes
The flange cover that was bolted on is called a blind flange, not a blind.
Cool beans Austin! Will they saw a full bore I.D. hole at a later date? I was waitin' for the guah! Ha ha! Love your show. I'm hoping for a great improvement in vision soon in Dec., after laser treatment on dirty lens implants (like a dirty windshield), (who knew?). Blind man welding sucks!
Very cool, does the water contained in the pipe effect the heat transfer?
Yes it does effect it
kind of figured it would. a giant heat sink@@arosswelding
Just as a gas main with a lot of draw, flow, usage. Would also have an effect on heat transfer.
Preheat to 200 degrees
The guy doing the excavation could have dug the ditch a little deeper so you would have an easier time doing the repair work.
Austin, this was a time and material job wasn't it? How is it that cross-country high-pressure pipe is all downhill but a relative low pressure water line required 7018 uphill on a "blind" that has no stress or strain or load on the 6" inch flange? Why not run a 8010 "bead" pass downhill inside and out then a cap pass with the 5/32? Good video as always and I have been in the ditch myself on take up and re-lay of oil line plus running 16" pipe in a ton of catfish ponds getting shocked as well!! In this situation a "seal weld" was required IMHO....
What material was that ? White iron is commonly used but it doesn't look like white iron ?????
We do the wood plug in the oil field a lot
Learn somethin everyday! I had no idea!
Where did you get that strap for the back of your lid? I wanna get one for my sugar scoop.
GFCI on newer engine drives... but can they be utilized on 110 VDC Lincoln's ?
They could have stopped flow long enough to press a sleeve on an weld it in Or maybe run freeze plugs cut small section out an put new section in . Any of these options no good ? Just wondering I am learning myself . I’m not even a welder wish is was or at least knew how . but you can never have to many trades
On an old pipeline, would a 3/32 6010, downhand root, with 2-7018 cover passes work? I'm thinking a water pipe that old, would likely be pretty thin at the point the leak occurred, and might blow out with the 7018? Just curious, you did a beautiful job by the way. I'm Enjoying your content!
I’m a freshman in high school hoping to do this after I graduate and get my schooling done. Do you have any tips on preparing for pipeline welding and welding school itself?
Are you still a member in good standing with UA local 798 ?
Was this filming out in Glen Rose Tx ? Curious
The blind is also called spade, in Europe.
How does that work when you’re working around water and you’re sparking the ark do you get might get electrocuted
Hey Austin! What’s your favorite coffee brand??
🤔 I’ve been likin community lately
@@arosswelding I’ll have to try it! black rifle coffee will get ya going if you haven’t tried it!
Was this job a call from the union hall ?
sooo just a pin hole then you welded a 150 lb flange over it????
Also what did u charge him if u don’t mind me asking..that’s the hardest part to me is knowing what to ask for when doing a job..it’s soo competitive nowadays and I’m just started doing field work on my own
That pipe tar wrap has asbestos fibers in it. They should’ve properly prepped it before you started your work
Did they ask you for any credentials, i.e. certs? Did you have any sort of procedure to follow or was that up to you?
Do you have an auto dark lens in that hood? Of you do what are you running? I have a Fibre Metal that I run with a static 10 shade that I wanted to swap out
Why was the flange needed? Is it a leak repair or is there plans to tap into it?
Flange is needed to allow welder to do the job without the need to weld on water pouring on you. One day I welder big nut in the similar situation and then screwed bolt in it and welded bolt to nut
Is there a way we can contact you for a consultation/guidance. I’m happy to pay you for you time and would probably only take about 15 minutes
Ughh just did a 36 water. Tar coating plus pvc tape wrap is a bitch getting off. Not my favorite 😂
Way safer to weld on a hot line than a dead line .
I find it exhilarating to get shocked said no one ever but it is what it is.
You need a bikini model helper to block the sun and hand you rods 😎.
Hot tapping
You could not weld on the inside if the flange in the gas industry. That’s for sure
Damn contractors making u work in a puddle. How hard is it to throw in some fill loo
That tar is asbestos