You just got a new subscription here. I love earth x i read it in 2004. I was shocked to see what happened to all of the heroes especially my favorite Spider-Man.... but im glad he became a comic and got himself together. And mayday as venom was cool too. Most people didn't even finish the entire trilogy. Earth x, universe x and paradise x.
I haven't gotten to Universe X yet, but I'm excited to check it out. I'm also told that "Spider-Cop" comes from this series too, so that's another feather in the Earth X universe's cap.
@@MysticalGreenBeanie that's right. The real spider-cop. Officer parker. I don't like that insomniac Spider-Man ps4/ps5 joke. It's nonsense honestly. I can't recommend universe x enough. Paradise x the final part was decent. I believe the earth x saga was supposed to have more parts but unfortunately it was halted due to low sales. Once you read paradise x you'll see what I mean. There's A LOT left unfinished and unanswered. Read the spidey special for universe x absolutely amazing.
This comic, to me, is very weird in terms of Iron Man. He is treated as this broken and hyper-serious genius that wants to have every single detail in control from the shadows. That feels very Batman-ish and I find it jarring. I thought that mfs thing was him using his suit as a way to escape reality and eventually finding hapiness in his own skin. Maybe this is what separates this comic from Kingdom Come; while KC evokes adoration for classic DC, Earth-X deconstructs the characters completely, AND BOTH ARE PERFECTLY FINE FOR DOING SO.
I'll dedicate a video to KC one day. But the thing I like about Earth X isn't that it's deconstructionist in nature. In fact, I don't see it as a deconstruction at all. If anything, it feels like "the next chapter" that we'll never see in the Marvel Universe, because American superhero comics are perpetually stuck in their "iconic status quo".
Earth X as a story i thought is interesting but as a fan of mayday parker spider-girl and peter parker story to tell you the truth this isn't really my favorite interpretation of that relationship but that's just my opinion.
I like the idea that after MJ dying, and having his identity revealed, Peter curls back into his reclusive shell, and has to relearn what it means to be Spider-Man as an adult.
@@MysticalGreenBeanie I can understand that but personally for me as a huge fan of mayday parker spider-girl and Peter parker and mary jane as a family seeing them fall apart literally in that dark future is just depressing in my opinion.
Marvel never stopped being political, specially in the 2000s, so that desire to tackle heavy themes was present and even increased by the events at the time. So...what do you mean exactly? Some of the comics that complement Secret Invasion are horrorific, in the good sense. At the same time, Kang Dynasty is touching on that hopelesness in battling an entity with god-like powers. (Kurt Busiek's Avengers is amazing!)
I never claimed that Marvel stopped being political. But their overall narrative style changed. They went from being "the world outside your window" to being a superhero fantasy epic akin to DC comics.
@@MysticalGreenBeanie, so you finally read 616 Avengers? How is that ordeal? Is is as bad as everyone says it is, or The Avengers were just misunderstood for decades?
@@nestordanielmunozalva4349 I've read some Avengers already here and there. It just has the same problem as the Justice League. The prestige of the title writes checks that the stories themselves cannot possibly cash.
@@borntosyn498 Same. I'm a sucker for stories where the protagonist gets old and has to relearn the lessons from their youth from a different perspective.
@@MysticalGreenBeanie, why did you like it despite the inconsistencies with the rest of the universe? Many people say that it was too slow, but me personally, I though it was too quick and did not explain a lot of details that should have been explained.
@@user-zx9yc7sm1z My expectations were low, and I was surprised they managed to capture thematically what I liked about the Eternals. Specifically Gaiman's run.
@@MysticalGreenBeanie Yup you heard correctly . Under the imdb she is confirmed to be Shalla-bal only but we know if she is indeed surfer that absolutely Earth X and it makes sense
@@monty8615 I feel like Mark Waid's idea of the superhero as an institution begins and ends with the silver age, and I just don't agree with that idea.
I mean Kingdom Come is fondly remembered for a reason after all while Earth ex isn't so I will say Earth ex story really wasn't all that great It was okay but Kingdom Come was better it is what it is
Never in my life have I heard anyone say Ultimates is one of the best Marvel comics. I'm pretty sure it's considered either so-bad-it's-good fun or irredeemable garbage by most people.
Ultimates 3 is bad, but the first two are really good, and heavily influenced how comics are written and drawn today i.e. wide screen cinematic sequential storytelling.
@@MysticalGreenBeanie Fair point on the widescreen art but nahhhhhh Mark Millar is a terrible writer and all of Ultimates sucks. Cringey edgelord shit. Certainly not good enough to be listed among Marvel's best. And I know I'm not the only one saying this, I almost never hear anyone say anything positive about the Ultimates.
@@stupendoushorrendous8258 it's no more edgelord than any of the Stan Lee Jack Kirby comics of the 60s, given historical perspective of how comics were approached back then.
The reason why Earth-X isn't remembered is because the art isn't all that great honestly it's kind of all over the place really when people want it Marvel to do their own version of Kingdom come which by the way Kingdom is better than Earth-X don't get blown up lol. It was actually trying to tell a story using the book of Revelations unlike Earth X that really was just saying here's a potential dark future for Marvel. It didn't really influence anything for Marvel after while Kingdom come influence the world of DC Earth X didn't influence the world of Marvel that's why it's not remembered it has too many writers and it has too many people on there while Kingdom come which had Mark Waid and Alex Ross Bam Boom that's it. You know what I'm saying nothing was really remembered besides the beautiful covers that Alex Ross did because yes why you mentioned some of the stuff that happened in Earth X all of that stuff happened later on in the Marvel universe after people forgot about Kingdom after people forgot about Earth-X. Like the story wasn't influenced on anything nothing happened so when that story came out the Marvel landscape was the same nobody really was like Oh yeah Earth X it's great it's not remembered because it's it doesn't really have interesting artwork and the story really wasn't all that interesting It was just there to be our answer to Kingdom Come which that's fine but it needs to say something and honestly it really didn't say much of anything that was interesting especially when we all ready had alternate reality stories telling Marvel history better than what Earth exits trying to do. That's why Earth-X is remembered It just didn't do anything interesting that people care about It didn't change anything it's just like okay here's the story okay it's out All right great that's it most people I talk to about Earth ex they were like oh yeah those beautiful Alex Ross covers too bad the book didn't look like that At least if you had Alex Ross you probably could have had more people reading the book.
@@MysticalGreenBeanie lol well considering they have millions of subscribers, I'd say their opinion is a little more valid and carries a little more weight
You just got a new subscription here. I love earth x i read it in 2004. I was shocked to see what happened to all of the heroes especially my favorite Spider-Man.... but im glad he became a comic and got himself together. And mayday as venom was cool too. Most people didn't even finish the entire trilogy. Earth x, universe x and paradise x.
I haven't gotten to Universe X yet, but I'm excited to check it out. I'm also told that "Spider-Cop" comes from this series too, so that's another feather in the Earth X universe's cap.
@@MysticalGreenBeanie that's right. The real spider-cop. Officer parker. I don't like that insomniac Spider-Man ps4/ps5 joke. It's nonsense honestly. I can't recommend universe x enough. Paradise x the final part was decent. I believe the earth x saga was supposed to have more parts but unfortunately it was halted due to low sales. Once you read paradise x you'll see what I mean. There's A LOT left unfinished and unanswered. Read the spidey special for universe x absolutely amazing.
This comic, to me, is very weird in terms of Iron Man. He is treated as this broken and hyper-serious genius that wants to have every single detail in control from the shadows. That feels very Batman-ish and I find it jarring. I thought that mfs thing was him using his suit as a way to escape reality and eventually finding hapiness in his own skin. Maybe this is what separates this comic from Kingdom Come; while KC evokes adoration for classic DC, Earth-X deconstructs the characters completely, AND BOTH ARE PERFECTLY FINE FOR DOING SO.
I'll dedicate a video to KC one day. But the thing I like about Earth X isn't that it's deconstructionist in nature. In fact, I don't see it as a deconstruction at all. If anything, it feels like "the next chapter" that we'll never see in the Marvel Universe, because American superhero comics are perpetually stuck in their "iconic status quo".
That is the real Iron Man. No the joke MCU one.
Earth X as a story i thought is interesting but as a fan of mayday parker spider-girl and peter parker story to tell you the truth this isn't really my favorite interpretation of that relationship but that's just my opinion.
I like the idea that after MJ dying, and having his identity revealed, Peter curls back into his reclusive shell, and has to relearn what it means to be Spider-Man as an adult.
@@MysticalGreenBeanie I can understand that but personally for me as a huge fan of mayday parker spider-girl and Peter parker and mary jane as a family seeing them fall apart literally in that dark future is just depressing in my opinion.
NGL, Fat Peter Parker was a reason I never wanted to read this at first.
LOL same. But he's actually really endearing here. ITSV definitely took some cues from this.
@@MysticalGreenBeanie This interpretation of Peter Parker is incredible I hope it’s adapted one day, minus being fat
@@adamquenano8563😂he got carried away a little chill
@@adamquenano8563 I hope it's adapted with him being fat he loses the weight and becomes a cop.
Marvel never stopped being political, specially in the 2000s, so that desire to tackle heavy themes was present and even increased by the events at the time. So...what do you mean exactly? Some of the comics that complement Secret Invasion are horrorific, in the good sense. At the same time, Kang Dynasty is touching on that hopelesness in battling an entity with god-like powers. (Kurt Busiek's Avengers is amazing!)
I never claimed that Marvel stopped being political. But their overall narrative style changed. They went from being "the world outside your window" to being a superhero fantasy epic akin to DC comics.
@@MysticalGreenBeanie, so you finally read 616 Avengers? How is that ordeal? Is is as bad as everyone says it is, or The Avengers were just misunderstood for decades?
@@nestordanielmunozalva4349 I've read some Avengers already here and there. It just has the same problem as the Justice League. The prestige of the title writes checks that the stories themselves cannot possibly cash.
@@MysticalGreenBeanie , what do you mean by that?
@@nestordanielmunozalva4349 There's a reason X-Men and Teen Titans were the premier team books at Marvel and DC respectively.
Read Earth-X back in 2018 and loved it - thanks for covering this sleeper! The world deserves to know about this
It's baffling how low under the radar this book flies.
@@MysticalGreenBeanie Agreed. I loved Peter's character arc - seeing him so bitter and hopeless was gut wrenching upon first read lmao
@@borntosyn498 Same. I'm a sucker for stories where the protagonist gets old and has to relearn the lessons from their youth from a different perspective.
You sold me at "Mayday Parker"
[Slaps a copy of Earth X]
This baby has so much Mayday Parker. And wait'll you see the sequels...
I got a copy. Seems like it’s picking up popularity recently.
Also, I’m curious what you meant by kingdom come being bad.
ngl sometimes I confuse Johnathan Hickman and Robert Kirkman together cause of how similar their names sound
I still get Warren Ellis and Garth Ennis mixed up sometimes frfr.
@@MysticalGreenBeanie Istg it’s those mfs w/ similar sounding last names lol
I'll take a wild guess and say that you really liked Eternals, Loki Season 2, and Werewolf by Night.
I liked Eternals, but didn't watch the other two.
@@MysticalGreenBeanie, why did you like it despite the inconsistencies with the rest of the universe? Many people say that it was too slow, but me personally, I though it was too quick and did not explain a lot of details that should have been explained.
@@user-zx9yc7sm1z My expectations were low, and I was surprised they managed to capture thematically what I liked about the Eternals. Specifically Gaiman's run.
@@MysticalGreenBeanieeternals was straight up trash lol
Yup fantastic 4 new movie , earth X
I heard a rumor that Shalla-Bal would be Silver Surfer in the new movie, like in Earth X.
@@MysticalGreenBeanie
Yup you heard correctly . Under the imdb she is confirmed to be Shalla-bal only but we know if she is indeed surfer that absolutely Earth X and it makes sense
Using the earth as a celestial's incubator!
The Eternals' turned a celestial into a giant statue, in guardians 2 , Ego was going to plant a egg in to earth and turn everyone into a part of Ego.
..why do you sound like me? Like its really weird we have similar speech patterns
I am he as you are me as you are we as we are all together.
kingdom come aint bad
I'm glad people like it.
@@MysticalGreenBeanie why do you think its bad tho?
@@monty8615 I feel like Mark Waid's idea of the superhero as an institution begins and ends with the silver age, and I just don't agree with that idea.
I mean Kingdom Come is fondly remembered for a reason after all while Earth ex isn't so I will say Earth ex story really wasn't all that great It was okay but Kingdom Come was better it is what it is
@@treymykel With that logic, stuff like Astro City, Top 10, and Superman: Where is thy sting all suck, because nobody remembers them.
Never in my life have I heard anyone say Ultimates is one of the best Marvel comics. I'm pretty sure it's considered either so-bad-it's-good fun or irredeemable garbage by most people.
Ultimates 3 is bad, but the first two are really good, and heavily influenced how comics are written and drawn today i.e. wide screen cinematic sequential storytelling.
@@MysticalGreenBeanie Fair point on the widescreen art but nahhhhhh Mark Millar is a terrible writer and all of Ultimates sucks. Cringey edgelord shit. Certainly not good enough to be listed among Marvel's best. And I know I'm not the only one saying this, I almost never hear anyone say anything positive about the Ultimates.
@@stupendoushorrendous8258 it's no more edgelord than any of the Stan Lee Jack Kirby comics of the 60s, given historical perspective of how comics were approached back then.
@@MysticalGreenBeanie Even as someone who doesn't like Stan Lee, I have NO idea how that comparison is supposed to make sense. But you do you.
The reason why Earth-X isn't remembered is because the art isn't all that great honestly it's kind of all over the place really when people want it Marvel to do their own version of Kingdom come which by the way Kingdom is better than Earth-X don't get blown up lol. It was actually trying to tell a story using the book of Revelations unlike Earth X that really was just saying here's a potential dark future for Marvel. It didn't really influence anything for Marvel after while Kingdom come influence the world of DC Earth X didn't influence the world of Marvel that's why it's not remembered it has too many writers and it has too many people on there while Kingdom come which had Mark Waid and Alex Ross Bam Boom that's it. You know what I'm saying nothing was really remembered besides the beautiful covers that Alex Ross did because yes why you mentioned some of the stuff that happened in Earth X all of that stuff happened later on in the Marvel universe after people forgot about Kingdom after people forgot about Earth-X. Like the story wasn't influenced on anything nothing happened so when that story came out the Marvel landscape was the same nobody really was like Oh yeah Earth X it's great it's not remembered because it's it doesn't really have interesting artwork and the story really wasn't all that interesting It was just there to be our answer to Kingdom Come which that's fine but it needs to say something and honestly it really didn't say much of anything that was interesting especially when we all ready had alternate reality stories telling Marvel history better than what Earth exits trying to do. That's why Earth-X is remembered It just didn't do anything interesting that people care about It didn't change anything it's just like okay here's the story okay it's out All right great that's it most people I talk to about Earth ex they were like oh yeah those beautiful Alex Ross covers too bad the book didn't look like that At least if you had Alex Ross you probably could have had more people reading the book.
Nah, man. Jean Paul Leon was one of the greats, and Earth X is up there with the OG run on Static as far as I'm concerned.
Lol kingdom come isn't any good huh? Well I know a few far bigger UA-camrs would disagree with you
People are entitled to their wrong opinions.
@@MysticalGreenBeanie lol well considering they have millions of subscribers, I'd say their opinion is a little more valid and carries a little more weight
@@Alexander-Lionheart_1881 and Logan Paul is a genius of our time. Enjoy.
Why are you letting someone’s personal opinion strike such a chord?