Ive done thid mod to every sporbike ive owned over the past 20yrs. 520 conversion -1,±1 or 2 depending on how it feels. It completely changes the power delivery. I agree its a must. And worth losing some top end speed. Acceleration is instant. Some bikes reqire aftermarket speedo healer which i use gps to correct my speedo anyway because evey bike is around 10%off believe it or not.
@@davidlagno7717 It is a must. Some liter bikes come stock with 520. I think Panigale V4r does. You can’t really utilize 200mph. I prefer faster acceleration. ✌️
@ALFAVITAGA Can completely transform power delivery for a beast of a streetbike!!! Back in 06 I did that mod to my R6 for the 1st time and it blew my phucking mind man. -1,+2. My S1000RR now I just went -1 in the front with 520 swap 👍 Awesome video.
Instead of going down from 43 teeth to 42 teeth…. How bout adding 1 extra link from 110 to 111… your chain wear will be better and it will burn the wheel base to factory again… more you can power out the corners like you want and not worry to much about wheelies
True, but.. chain links are made in even numbers. So you can only go from 110 to 112 links. Unless you add a half link. It is possible but I don’t have enough information and suppliers on half links. I went over this on this video: ua-cam.com/video/VtqVSjykSoA/v-deo.htmlsi=U2DLCBNKGPzsZsPv
For my 2017 RSV4-RF I went up 2 on the rear and down 1 on the drive but kept the 525 setup. Theres always a downside where theres an upside. 520 setup saves weight but the 525 helps longevity. I think I'll do 520 next time round
I agree! I can’t speak for the longevity of the 520 but I feel that it wont be an issue. So far I’m very pro 520 conversion. Now for the gearing change, I find that it’s all about the sweet spot of what you are looking for. Usually the sweet spot is a combination of multiple items. In the geometry department, I think reducing the wheelbase by 9mm with a 43T, is great for agility but with the downside of excessive front wheel lift. Next I will drop to 42T adding 5mm of wheelbase length but still 4mm shorter than stock, reducing the front wheel lift. I will add forged wheels which I believe they will compensate for that 5mm addition of wheelbase by their lighter wheel weight. Hopefully that will be the sweet spot. I’ll update with videos ✌️
@@ALFAVITAGA Great👍🏻I enjoyed reading your in depth reply Sir, I can deffo take something out of that. I still may have that 520 on the next replacement schedule but thats a long way off at mo.👍🏻
Great video and review. I currently ride an RS 660 and absolutely love it but if your saying that making this conversion to your RSV4 has now made the bike feel like the RS660 but with the extra HP, then this is something l now need to consider when considering my next bike purchase. (I will probably still keep the RS but convert to track bike) Thanks bro, keep up the channel ✌🏻
Thank you! Look the RSV4 will never be as nimble as the RS660. Its physics its impossible. Unless you strip everything from it, add race fairings, shorter the wheel base, add a 180 rear tyre, add forged wheels and so much more, then sure you can make the RSV4 crazy nimble and light. But everything comes at the cost of something. You gain somewhere you lose somewhere else. In my case shortening the wheel base by 9mm made the RSV4 very nimble. But now it also lifts more and is not as planted as before. I’m receiving forged wheels next week. Once I install them, I’m thinking of going down to 42 teeth from 43 teeth to extend the wheel base by 5mm. It will still be 4mm shorter than stock. But the forged wheels might compensate for that 5mm wheelbase and keep it as nimble but without that much front wheel lift. I will do reviews on every mod including wheels and find the sweet spot of agility and stability. I’m also going to install triple clamp and longer clip ons that will aid in counter-steering making the bike more agile. The sky is the limit when it comes to mods. ✌️
@@ALFAVITAGAlove the content on both bikes. I was literally at the end of this video thinking similar thoughts of what it might be like if you kept closer to the standard sprocket sizes but reduced the wheelbase slightly. Then you go and add in the forged wheels, this bike gonna look and feel killer. RS660 coming later in the year for me. Keep up the good work sir.
Thanks for your informative reply, I will add these to my considerations, though I am leaning towards the RSV4 having just had a ride on a friends. I look forward to your future upgrade videos and assessments. Keep up the great content ..peace!! ✌🏻
Hi Buddy, Greetings to you.. I am seeing your videos and thinking of upgrading my RS 660 Extrema to an RSV4 1100 Factory….So if you could make a video to compare the differences between the RSV4 and the RS660 so someone can decide if the upgrade is the right step and whom should upgrade…?? I know that there are a lot of videos on the internet doing comparisons but your videos make more sense to me as you are a long term user, not a journalist..! At the same time you just adjusted every part of each one of them.. I am the same guy who requested the RS660 suspension adjustment video previously…😅 Thanks in advance brother. All the love from Germany…💐💐
Thank you! I’m from Greece and I’m used to using Km/h instead of Mph. Same with meters, kilos, etc. I just understand the speed better in Km. Plus Km/h are more accurate than Mph. For instance if you are traveling at 100km/h thats 62mph. If you increase the speed to 101km/h the speedometer in Mph would still show 62mph because 101km/h is 62.75mph. Speedometer would only jump to 63mph when the speed in Km/h would reach 102km/h. At the end of the day it doesn’t really matter. Whatever works best for each. ✌️
@@JohnnyXie527 I initially got the 360 stick but In didn’t like it. It was wobbling too much. So now Im using the Telesin. I’m planning to make a video on how to set up the whole thing. It requires some grinding and modification to get the right angle.
@@tl1000r1 I haven’t done straight pull comparisons, but I know for a fact that with a 43T rear you can get a solid 190-192mph top speed, while the stock 41T can reach 200-202mph. In essence you lose 10mph on top speed. In comparison a one tooth drop in the front from 16 to 15, while keeping the rear stock at 41T, will give you roughly 187mph top speed.
Before the conversion did you notice less acceleration from 3rd to 4th and 5th? I would race my buddies (same weight) and they would walk away from me once I shifted to 4th and further once in 5th, this is with wide open throttle. I have stacks, Akra slipon and Gabro map. Thanks
To be honest I never felt that it doesn’t have enough acceleration. Even on 5th I would open throttle at 160mph and it would pull me back off my seat. With the 43 rear you get acceleration on high rpm. I don’t like the 43 rear on mid rpm as I can’t accelerate fast without lifting the front wheel. I might try a 42 rear next. But there is kind of a flat spot on the RSV4. I didn’t feel it with the 43 rear. Which bikes walked you?
@@ALFAVITAGA I hand stock gearing and it was every bike I raced. Modified 2015 r1, gsxr 1000, BMW s1000rr...and I was infront first 3 gears then when I shift into 4th they would always pull away and continue to pull away. So I hand it dynoed again and it was 190 SAE to the rear wheel. The Aprilia app showed that I was at 100% throttle. So I have been trying to figure out whats going on. Changed the oil to Motul 300v, burped the cooling system to get out air bubbles (the temp had been getting in the 230s heat = hp loss). I am glad you noticed a flat spot too, was it after you did the map or before. Thanks
@@anonjohnnyG Thanks on the exhaust. The reason I didn't get the full exhaust was because it's only .5 to 1 hp more. The other guys were heavier. It seems like something is missing or not right but I will get it figured out some how.
@@joyfulpyro2589 That is very odd. A 2015 R1 walking you? I can’t imagine how thats possible, unless he had shorter gearing or something. RSV4 is a beast it’s not easy to beat and definitely not with an R1. I guess I’ll have to race a few litter bikes to find out. 🤷♂️
“I should take it slow…” then spends half the video at 200km/h. 😂
But for real, I love your videos, man. I learn a lot from your walkthroughs. 🙏🏼
Lol 😂😂 “I’ll take it slow” Did no rider ever! Thanks brother!! ✌️
great video. love the review and impressed with your riding skills. keep it up
@@encikseth Thank you man! I appreciate it! ✌️
Loving the enthusiasm 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
✌️😛
Ive done thid mod to every sporbike ive owned over the past 20yrs. 520 conversion -1,±1 or 2 depending on how it feels. It completely changes the power delivery. I agree its a must. And worth losing some top end speed. Acceleration is instant. Some bikes reqire aftermarket speedo healer which i use gps to correct my speedo anyway because evey bike is around 10%off believe it or not.
@@davidlagno7717 It is a must. Some liter bikes come stock with 520. I think Panigale V4r does. You can’t really utilize 200mph. I prefer faster acceleration. ✌️
@ALFAVITAGA Can completely transform power delivery for a beast of a streetbike!!! Back in 06 I did that mod to my R6 for the 1st time and it blew my phucking mind man. -1,+2. My S1000RR now I just went -1 in the front with 520 swap 👍 Awesome video.
I did a 530>520 conversion on my bike, and the most notable difference came from the rev match downshifting. It feels more snappy.
Very true. One of the first things you feel from the 520 chain is downshift and upshift responsiveness. ✌️
Seems a lot of fun
So much fun 💯✌️
Instead of going down from 43 teeth to 42 teeth…. How bout adding 1 extra link from 110 to 111… your chain wear will be better and it will burn the wheel base to factory again… more you can power out the corners like you want and not worry to much about wheelies
True, but.. chain links are made in even numbers. So you can only go from 110 to 112 links. Unless you add a half link. It is possible but I don’t have enough information and suppliers on half links. I went over this on this video: ua-cam.com/video/VtqVSjykSoA/v-deo.htmlsi=U2DLCBNKGPzsZsPv
For my 2017 RSV4-RF I went up 2 on the rear and down 1 on the drive but kept the 525 setup. Theres always a downside where theres an upside. 520 setup saves weight but the 525 helps longevity. I think I'll do 520 next time round
I agree! I can’t speak for the longevity of the 520 but I feel that it wont be an issue. So far I’m very pro 520 conversion. Now for the gearing change, I find that it’s all about the sweet spot of what you are looking for. Usually the sweet spot is a combination of multiple items. In the geometry department, I think reducing the wheelbase by 9mm with a 43T, is great for agility but with the downside of excessive front wheel lift. Next I will drop to 42T adding 5mm of wheelbase length but still 4mm shorter than stock, reducing the front wheel lift. I will add forged wheels which I believe they will compensate for that 5mm addition of wheelbase by their lighter wheel weight. Hopefully that will be the sweet spot. I’ll update with videos ✌️
@@ALFAVITAGA Great👍🏻I enjoyed reading your in depth reply Sir, I can deffo take something out of that. I still may have that 520 on the next replacement schedule but thats a long way off at mo.👍🏻
Great video and review. I currently ride an RS 660 and absolutely love it but if your saying that making this conversion to your RSV4 has now made the bike feel like the RS660 but with the extra HP, then this is something l now need to consider when considering my next bike purchase. (I will probably still keep the RS but convert to track bike)
Thanks bro, keep up the channel ✌🏻
Thank you! Look the RSV4 will never be as nimble as the RS660. Its physics its impossible. Unless you strip everything from it, add race fairings, shorter the wheel base, add a 180 rear tyre, add forged wheels and so much more, then sure you can make the RSV4 crazy nimble and light. But everything comes at the cost of something. You gain somewhere you lose somewhere else. In my case shortening the wheel base by 9mm made the RSV4 very nimble. But now it also lifts more and is not as planted as before. I’m receiving forged wheels next week. Once I install them, I’m thinking of going down to 42 teeth from 43 teeth to extend the wheel base by 5mm. It will still be 4mm shorter than stock. But the forged wheels might compensate for that 5mm wheelbase and keep it as nimble but without that much front wheel lift. I will do reviews on every mod including wheels and find the sweet spot of agility and stability. I’m also going to install triple clamp and longer clip ons that will aid in counter-steering making the bike more agile. The sky is the limit when it comes to mods. ✌️
@@ALFAVITAGAlove the content on both bikes.
I was literally at the end of this video thinking similar thoughts of what it might be like if you kept closer to the standard sprocket sizes but reduced the wheelbase slightly.
Then you go and add in the forged wheels, this bike gonna look and feel killer.
RS660 coming later in the year for me. Keep up the good work sir.
@@project618 Thank you!! Setup with forged wheels coming soon. You’ll love the 660. ✌️
Thanks for your informative reply, I will add these to my considerations, though I am leaning towards the RSV4 having just had a ride on a friends. I look forward to your future upgrade videos and assessments. Keep up the great content ..peace!! ✌🏻
@@robertbryant1845 Thank you! Once you ride the RSV4 it’s hard to not want one. I think it’s a great choice if you go for it. ✌️
Hi Buddy,
Greetings to you..
I am seeing your videos and thinking of upgrading my RS 660 Extrema to an RSV4 1100 Factory….So if you could make a video to compare the differences between the RSV4 and the RS660 so someone can decide if the upgrade is the right step and whom should upgrade…??
I know that there are a lot of videos on the internet doing comparisons but your videos make more sense to me as you are a long term user, not a journalist..! At the same time you just adjusted every part of each one of them..
I am the same guy who requested the RS660 suspension adjustment video previously…😅
Thanks in advance brother.
All the love from Germany…💐💐
That is actually a good idea! I’ll definitely make one! Thanks for the feedback ✌️
Awesome video love your channel i wanted to know why your in kmh instead of mph thanks
Thank you! I’m from Greece and I’m used to using Km/h instead of Mph. Same with meters, kilos, etc. I just understand the speed better in Km. Plus Km/h are more accurate than Mph. For instance if you are traveling at 100km/h thats 62mph. If you increase the speed to 101km/h the speedometer in Mph would still show 62mph because 101km/h is 62.75mph. Speedometer would only jump to 63mph when the speed in Km/h would reach 102km/h. At the end of the day it doesn’t really matter. Whatever works best for each. ✌️
Τι λες ρε εισαι απο ελλαδα και μιλαγαμε αγγλικα πριν που σου ελεγα για το 520 κονβερσιον που εκανα στο δικο μου χαχαχαχα
@@fibrex_942 Χαχαχα έλα ρε πατρίδα 😛
@@ALFAVITAGA καταλαβες ποιος ειμαι που μιλαγαμε οτι εκανα το ιδιο κονβερσιον σε 520 αλλα δεν μεγαλωσα το πισω γραναζι εβαλα τα ιδια σε 520
@@fibrex_942 Ναι θυμάμαι. Σε ανέφερα και στο βιντεάκι που σχολίασες για τη 520 μόνο χωρίς γρανάζι.
Hey brother, the brackets hold your 360, would that fit my RS660, if so please drop a link for the brackets, thanks!
Yes they fit the RS660. These are the ones I use: a.co/d/01NEovvL
@@ALFAVITAGA It looks good, which stick are you using?
@@JohnnyXie527 I initially got the 360 stick but In didn’t like it. It was wobbling too much. So now Im using the Telesin. I’m planning to make a video on how to set up the whole thing. It requires some grinding and modification to get the right angle.
@@ALFAVITAGA looking forward to see it, I like your setup.
increasing rear sprocket teeth is decreasing top speed right ?
Correct. Increasing rear sprocket teeth increases acceleration and decreases top speed. Decreasing front sprocket teeth has the same effect. ✌️
How much top end do you think you gave up by going +2 on the rear sprocket?
@@tl1000r1 I haven’t done straight pull comparisons, but I know for a fact that with a 43T rear you can get a solid 190-192mph top speed, while the stock 41T can reach 200-202mph. In essence you lose 10mph on top speed. In comparison a one tooth drop in the front from 16 to 15, while keeping the rear stock at 41T, will give you roughly 187mph top speed.
Before the conversion did you notice less acceleration from 3rd to 4th and 5th? I would race my buddies (same weight) and they would walk away from me once I shifted to 4th and further once in 5th, this is with wide open throttle. I have stacks, Akra slipon and Gabro map. Thanks
To be honest I never felt that it doesn’t have enough acceleration. Even on 5th I would open throttle at 160mph and it would pull me back off my seat. With the 43 rear you get acceleration on high rpm. I don’t like the 43 rear on mid rpm as I can’t accelerate fast without lifting the front wheel. I might try a 42 rear next. But there is kind of a flat spot on the RSV4. I didn’t feel it with the 43 rear. Which bikes walked you?
@@ALFAVITAGA I hand stock gearing and it was every bike I raced. Modified 2015 r1, gsxr 1000, BMW s1000rr...and I was infront first 3 gears then when I shift into 4th they would always pull away and continue to pull away. So I hand it dynoed again and it was 190 SAE to the rear wheel. The Aprilia app showed that I was at 100% throttle. So I have been trying to figure out whats going on. Changed the oil to Motul 300v, burped the cooling system to get out air bubbles (the temp had been getting in the 230s heat = hp loss). I am glad you noticed a flat spot too, was it after you did the map or before. Thanks
@@joyfulpyro2589 u need a full ex system, not just slip on. also maybe you are heavier.
@@anonjohnnyG Thanks on the exhaust. The reason I didn't get the full exhaust was because it's only .5 to 1 hp more. The other guys were heavier. It seems like something is missing or not right but I will get it figured out some how.
@@joyfulpyro2589 That is very odd. A 2015 R1 walking you? I can’t imagine how thats possible, unless he had shorter gearing or something. RSV4 is a beast it’s not easy to beat and definitely not with an R1. I guess I’ll have to race a few litter bikes to find out. 🤷♂️
need to some changes to my r6 bro…can you help me? 😊
Yes, change it with an R1. Lol just kidding. Give it to me I’ll take care of it. 😛
@@ALFAVITAGA i buy and R1 big bang to, but this R6 I think maybe this should have been a turbo 🐌 did you thinking? 😈