Megabass 110 v.s. Smithwick Rogue…Honest OG Comparison
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- Опубліковано 18 жов 2024
- Randy Has a discussion surrounding the megabass 110 and the Smithwick rogue which are two of the most famous jerkbaits ever made…
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You, Johnny, and Matt should do a challenge were each of you guys fish one of those baits all day on a good jerkbait day to see which bait boats the most fish in a day. It would be really cool to see the vision 110, lucky craft pointer 100, and the smithwick Rouge go against each other.
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I agree. Would be a cool challenge and video.
Add 6th sense in there and Berkleys new jerkbait
Seriously been fishing rogues for over 30 years, for the price it’s still my go to. Blue or black back, chrome with orange belly. Shallow running or a suspending
Good day randy, I'm old school cuz, I'll put up the rogue against any jerkbaits out there, that's how great they are,go smithwick 🎣
It's good thing that Randy understands a lot of fishermen don't like him for a number of reasons. I think one part of it again is him fishing certain lakes mainly.....as he, himself said that his videos do pertain to his fishing. I see that. I see that he tends to endorse strictly Megabass and I understand why. Problem is if you talk about colors or generalized topics, you can't really say Pro Blue, but should state the main colors in all the brands. My take is Randy is very skilled at his location, which may not translate to other lakes. All in all, the info is still better than some of the others bc it comes from more of a wise state. As for the lures, I don't think many pros are as vastly skilled as you would like to think. They are certainly vastly more skilled than most fishermen.
Great comparison. Thanks for the stickbait content. Love it. Merry Christmas 🎄
Randy, thanks for the video and I realize that it is your opinion. That is why I watch your channel because I want to hear your opinion. Thank you for taking the time to make these videos.
I have put fished people in my boat with a rouge but the quality control was is really good and all the hooks in mine have not bent out or gone dull after a pile of fish and I fish the rouge in really clear water and rock and wood and it work really good for me so far
I love the way you ended this video not that the initial information wasn’t great just that “if you want to hear how I’m
pi$$ing someone off” got me laughing at 4:25am going over my fishing gear lol
Just got in the deadly black shad, can't wait to try it!
If you want to get after some Lake Erie walleye on the rocks. Than the smithwick p10’s is the ticket
Randy, I look at the Smithwick vs the Megabass and I struggle to see much physical difference so what makes the megabass so much better other than quality? I have several rogues and have fished them for 40+ years. To be honest, I have trouble spending $25 for a single lure. I can buy 3 rogues for that. It's not that I don't have the money. I'll bet I have more electronics on my boat than you but I remember when Bagley Killer B-2 (bought hundreds of them) were $4.96. Maybe that's my problem?
Seems to me a lot of your viewers take fishing way too scientifically. Until you can put a microphone in a bass's face and interview him about which lures and colors he prefers I wouldn't assume to know for sure. Good video Randy. I look forward to your videos and enjoy them.
Something about that clown rouge in a little off color water. Cliff pace won the classic at grand on that bait. He said he caught them on jackall but the video shows otherwise.
I can catch bass on a rogue. I will not give 25$ for a jerk bait
I caught my PB a 10-4 on a gold rouge. The lake I fish is murky to stained lowland lake. I’ve been thinking of getting a 110 pointer to try.
Lmao loved the sign off on this one 🤣
I really like the Smithwick floaters just right under subsurface at times, and walking it real fast like a spook, I have had them t bone it from a ways away. I have a bunch of 110's and still trying to get used to them. Though in rivers have done great with an X Rap. Also I really like the flat sides of the shadow rap and really caught em on a few select colors.
Is that for bass ? Cause Walleye seem slam the hell out the Ripstops 12's I use. The smithwicks still have caught more fish/bigger fish for me so far.
Great video and I have a fee of these rogue stick baits and I think I will get a few of the vision 110's. Thanks for the information and hope you and your family have a Merry Christmas!!! :)
I can’t believe nobody has mentioned the jackal squad minnow. A lot of this is about “confidence.” I’ve caught fish on smith wick, magabass and jackal, but I just feel more confident when the jackal is tied on. But I do love the action of the megabass.
If you want to learn all things Jerkbait, sign up for the seminar! I did the advanced jerkbait 3 hour seminar with Randy and Jonny last winter and it was incredible how much info they offered up. I loved it.
6th Sense provoke 106x is a nice bait for $15. They cast well, suspend and have great paint schemes.
Love all your rip bait videos. Have been fishing the megabass 110s a lot out here in California. Just struggle to find the right replacement hook. Do you like the nano g finesse or the g finesse mh. I like the size 5 but not sure which hook to go with. Thanks for help.
great stuff, randy. trip down there to do an on-the-water lesson is on my bucket list. jerkbait(lucky craft) is my bread and butter technique too. there's a recent video on wired2fish which shows underwater footage of the megabass 110. might be a +1. I notice that it sits nose down when paused. are you aware of that and do you approve?
We need you to do a comparison of the new Berkeley stunna in the vision 110 I've had both deep diving version and the regular stuff since this fall and I've been fishing side by side with vision 110 and right now it's about a dead heat I can't tell which bait out performs the other it'd be interesting to hear your point of view on the new Berkeley stunna MoneyWise the stunna is about $10 cheaper I would say they don't have quite as good a paint schemes and color patterns as megabastas I give the nod to mega bass there the hooks on the stunner I think are better the fusion 19 hooks as far as fish catching ability though they're both phenomenal in my opinion get a few and try them out Randy
You eluded to a prior question I asked a few weeks ago on your best jerbait fisherman. I asked do you ever fish the deep diving rogue like a shad rap. Sounds like he kind of did crank it down 8-10 Ft then twitch and pause. We used to downsize the middle hook and upsize the ends. That way they don’t hang on each other when it catches air on the cast.
Nice tip buddy
@@randyoney8793 Randy, I probably fished a deep diving rogue as a shad rap many years before catching a typical jerk bait fish. Fontana, NC is a deep lake. We cranked the long bill rogue like a shad rap but used a start and stop maybe a twitch. The key was finding the right reel turn and stop rhythm. They either ate it head first or right in the middle. Man so many memories of the middle ones coming up grabbing that thing and heading off…ah. Takes me back.
I remember the first time I ever heard about the 110 a bunch of guys spent a ton of $ on them and we won the tournament using rouge’s. That being said our first try with them my dad out caught me 10 to 1.
To confirm the 5.5" floating Rouge is no longer made, is my understanding correct? The current 5.5" is suspending and dives to 10-12' according to TW. It looks like the current floating option is only 4.5" long. Finally, the Smithwick Suspending Super Rogue is 5" and runs 0-4'. Therefore, it looks like you have to buy used if you want the Rouge bait Randy is using now.
A lot of my fishing is on river systems where the water depth 4ft to 8ft typically with one or two areas where the water depth drops to that 10ft to 12ft. Most of the time I fishing for Smallies in 4ft+/-. Any suggestions/opinions on the model, size, maybe a color pattern or two.
FYI - I live in central PA and fish the Susquehanna River.
i fish the same water. 110 Jr would work best for your average depth as it runs about 4'. I use 6 or 8 line on spinning. translucent colors for clear water. gold sides or bright colors in muddy water.
@@lennymachowski5660 --- Thank you Lenny!
I have a bunch of the old rogues.
Randy. Have you tried Jackall Squirrel? They are pretty good.
You ever used the old count down baits
The Rogue may not catch more fish but it has an intangible old-school authenticity. Ever wonder how Van Dam's 2005 Classic would have played out on anything but the Rogue?
While the sentiment is mostly true, theres a good amount of days where a jackall rerange will smash on a 110, similarly pointers. It is not the best for every situation, while it is the best overall.
Randy, considering the price of the Vision 110, it should catch all of the fish all of the time..... period.
Rogue, gonna try it.
I disagree. The rogue hooks are the stickiest hooks bro
I put a heavier hook on the front of a provoke today and caught 6 in a little under an hour with half the lake covered in ice. Might be something to this jerkbait knowledge.
Randy, I have always noticed you have a piece of line left on your baits that you hold up. What's the reason for that?
Just cut it off in a hurry during a tournament probably
@@randyblaukatintuitive copy that. Thanks and Merry Christmas to you and your family. Wishing you all the best in the new year.
I’ve been a smithwick loyalist my whole life. I would make fun about not owning a megabass with my friends. I started using them the past two years and now I hardly throw a rogue. :( the past two years I’ve been catching hammers. Though I did have to modify a megabass to do that
Appreciate the videos randy. Vision 110 is 💵
I am a huge fan of the Jakel Rerange jerkbait!
I fish both and theres a huge difference in the two for me.....both will put fish in the boat but that Megabass is hard to beat.....pricey but worth it
I have better luck on the rogue in cold water. By cold I mean ice around edges but of lake. Often it’s a pull (not a jerk) of 6-8”s followed by a painful 10 second pause. 18-20”s of water visibility I like the blue back/orange belly weighted to suspend in cold water.
Looks like the American equivalent requires a bit of tuning. And has the ability to get bit,but japanese realistic baits with better technology and more premium hardware is litespeed ahead of the originals.
The real american equivalent is the RC Stick. Cheaper, but less attention to detail.
I just can’t fathom spending $25 on a single lure. Ima have to just deal with the $5 units.
Yep
Question: Is there a reason you cut the line above the knot? Is it just something you do? I have noticed on several lures you have held up there is line on them. Probably a stupid question but thought it was worth asking.
The first few inches is where line fray usually occurs so it’s safest to cut above the knot so fray doesn’t become part of your next knot on the mainline.
Your opinion sold me and appreciate all the info you are sharing
How long you fishing a certain jerkbait before you decide that one isn’t the one?
I have thousands of dollars of megabass products because they are just that good. I've been fishing with mega bass for over 10 years. Iv tried every jerkabait. I have 10 of those Berkeley stunna and they are a waste of money compared to megabass. (I can see a time and place for them but why force them when I can just weight a megabass to sink slow.) Actually just got a few of the Shimano World minnow today. Haven't thrown them yet but want to see what the hype is about. The point is like Randy said they have a bunch of models and something for every situation.
I slept on a rogue for thirty years. No more. Better than rapalas qc(lips fall off rapalas now) storm thundersticks are also underrated. Rapala original floater will forever be the GOAT
I love Megabass but I can’t say I’ve ever had success with the 110.
The Smithwick 'Potato Chip' Rogue. For a budget fisherman, it's a good jerkbait to put on my test rod. If all is clear, I pull out the Megabass for the real deal.
Can you wake a mega bass jerk bait like we do a long A here in East Tennessee?
Randy, you’re sponsored by megabass. There can’t be an honest opinion. That’s also apple and oranges. $25-30 dollars for one and less than $10 for the other. Chevy chevette or Mercedes?
I feel every jerkbait brand will catch fish. Megabass is like the cream or the best of the best. In Really cold water. Sound plays a big part as well as how much water it moves. How it floats/ sets in the water
A lot of differents in jerkbaits
So in FL better off with Rogue!
Unfortunately only the original 101 has the best darting action, no way the +1, +2, R+ series maintain the same unique action and rest position of the original one
That why I always laugh at guys who complain and say oh randy say's "u don't need these other baits", but will recommend a megabass bait but. Don't realize how much u have put into megabass baits and how long u have been using them. You literally helped design the vision oneten its almost like people think megabass is new which it isn't. I just like that u give ur opinion off of ur experience and not regurgitating something some other guy has said but then have never had any experience with the bait i never understood that.
This is what I want to leave here as my case in point. Randy tells you the Vision is the best. The question is can Randy tell you what are the attributes that make it the best? Why is this one better than the others? All I heard was quality and paint, which I have already disproved. What about in the performance? The fact is that once you know all the things that make a jerkbait (lure) works, then you will come to understand which is best, and best is an overall assessment, not definite. Even if you have the best jerkbait, you still have to factor in situations and applications. Me, I have a good understanding of jerkbaits in general from using a lot of brands, and I have a good understanding of what makes a Megabass so good. I will admit they are among the best in terms of catching fishing. Quality? Bad. I don't like them for the price, but mainly that they will break moreso than a Chinese. I am saying that from experience and my integrity rides on what I say and do. Why would I buy something that I already know something else works better and that I will be throwing my hard-earned cash away? It's like Japanese have zero respect for our dollars if you ask me, and that is disrespectful to me. Do they know I work 12-13 hour shifts doing labor in the sun? Now, if they were going in blind and remain blind, we cannot blame them. They know what kind cheap plastic they use, what kind of components they use, what kind of paint they use, etc. It's not like they don't know or anyone hasn't told them. Just like Okuma and Shimano. I keep telling them all their rods break. Do they listen? No. That's why I have no respect for them. If they want integrity, they gotta build it. You can't just make anything and expect to live off the name or something. Maybe they will get amater money. Not from me. My initial point is as long as you know what makes a lure tick, you know what you want....you know what's best. It's like a typical rod reviewer. To him the most important thing is the feel or sensitivity. To me, it's more than that. In guns, the feel refers to the handling/grip, not the same. To me, I am more interested in the catch ratio. I want to know if by using any lure, can I set the hook all all types of fish. I want to know if when I set the hook, will the fish get pinned. That's what makes me better than KVD. He was endorsed by Quantum, so he was losing his jerkbait fish. When a fish hits my lure, they automatically get stuck. That's the level I am at. That's why KVD will get dismantle on the quick quick when he decides to answer my call. I have too many skills over him. That is absolutely a fact. The sad truth is he knows this himself like Mayweather would never do mma.
Am I the only one that has caught way more bass on the KVD jerk baits than any other jerk bait? I have all of them in my box. I still reach for the KVD perch colored jerk bait and will wear them out. I do put better hooks on it but I do that to every production lure not just KVD lures. I have not found a production lure that I have bought that has good hooks. Except maybe the whooper plopper? Get them in your hand and you will soon find out how good of quality the hooks are made of when you are trying to cut them with pilars!!! I am a electrician by trade and I carry a pair of Klein side cuts everywhere I go. The whoppper plopper made them grunt a little.
Im with ya Tall Timber!! Nobody mentions the KVD Jerkbaits??? I love em! A WHOLE LOT eaiser on the wallet too! Dont get me wrong..MEGABASS makes an awesome jerkbait & ive got a bunch , but in MY OPINION the KVDs run a really close race with all the jerkbaits out there!!
Smithwick is too old school. They catch fish. They iconic. Doesn't mean they are best. I can even prove it. Smithwick has a straight jerk or a linear action. This is something that is less effective and does not pass my standardized test. The Rogue also does not roll well on the pause. On the straight retrieve, the roll is fine. Rogue also have very nasty colors and paint in general. Other issues include riding higher in the water column and too light to cast.
The main problem with Randy's videos is that he fishes mainly Table Rock. This does not account for other lakes across the US, which speaks to the effectiveness of these lures. You can't compare a Smithwick against a Vision 110. Totally different lures or class. This is why I have said that the art has advanced so far that these old schoolers will never defeat someone like me bc we specialized in Japanese technologies and old school mainstays. KVD has nothing on a youngster with simply the skills in JDM. That's a fact. If you round someone's Japanese studies with domestic and international lessons, there is no way KVD will take you or me. You see my point? Anyone who strictly endorses a brand cannot fish to me....and that to me means at the optimal...they may not be amaters, but they are also not elites. Somewhere in the middle you rate their skills. These Megabass fans love to say Megabass is the best. Well, I know lots of waters around here that the Megabass will flat out fail. How then is that possible?
Give Randy a break here, he has fished Jerkbaits for years. He is trying to give you what works for him, and he has fished all over the country with them.
He is right but I'm also with you you have to know how to fish them all in the right condition' s to be the best and allow God to show and show us as people up too