Racializing Genres (Letter from a Fan)
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- Today I'm responding to an email from "E," who feels his rock-oriented music taste is stigmatized by his hip hop head peers.
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yo what if 'E' stands for Eminem???? 🤔🤔
Those are some fat letters
@@schizoframia4874 what
@@BBrideley there’s a lot of space for the name eminem to fill
@@schizoframia4874 could’ve covered up more space than needed
Man do I fucking hate this. I'm black and I get so much shit for liking metal, rock, bluegrass etc ("white music"). I have a Slint shirt, Dead Kennedy's shirt, Frank Zappa shirt and a couple metal band shirts. I always look like a sellout or white boy to them. I can't talk about music I like or bring up the new artists I like and it annoys tf out of me.
I feel there's this need for some blacks to preserve the black culture, which means traditionally black music as well. It's understandable but the fact that there are other genres I like doesn't mean I'm trading in my rap and R&B card for a rock/metal card. On the opposite side, I feel it's the same for whites trying to enjoy hip hop like how Anthony said in the video.
sportsjunkie52 W for owning a Slint shirt and everything you said
sportsjunkie52 I know how you feel. I remember growing up when people of my ethnicity would make fun of me for not being like them. They would always call me a white boy because I had long hair and listened to rock music
sportsjunkie52 Love this, but aren't' the Dead Kennedys a racist band?
Justin B I was about to put that. DK had DH Peligro on drums.
totally agree. My dad jokingly makes fun of me starting to get into rap music as we're a white family and he's never understood the appeal of the genre and probably never will. He jokes that I'm done with Rush and Queen and classic rock bands because I've started exploring Run-DMC or Kendrick Lamar.
"youve already won because youre already being yourself" damn this honeyglobe head ass nigga is spittin some real TRUTH. that shit touched a nigga heart. bless up.
LOL
Only Native Americans are allowed to watch Anthony Fantano.
TheUhOhOreo He Who Has the Head of Melon
I'm a native brazilian (south american). That coun?
Finally.
Ass
@@hldr4345 no.
fantano .. the thinking man's needle drop.
EarRegardless lmao well said
I know someone's who African-American who dislikes hip hop but LOVES rock music. Specially hard rock, alternative rock and heavy metal. He gets so much shit from his black friends and even some of his white friends. I feel sorry for him because he feels like he's weird for liking rock. He's not. It's just human nature. You can be black or white or Asian or Latino or Indian and like both hip hop AND rock AND electronic AND experimental
The Rockingbird . Right. People are so concerned with being accepted and scared to be themselves
Rock is black music invented by black people. White people claim it's theirs.
I had a black friend who was told he wasnt black enough by a white kid because he didnt listen to rap. Ive been told im not asian enough for not Being good at math etc.
The stereotyping just alienates these kids from their own culture and society as a whole. Its really unfair to perpetuate these stereotypes on impressionable kids.
@@lukamatos4563 I've never heard white people say that though.
@@kevinzhu6417 Bro did u go to school in Mississippi lmaoo
Music should not be classified or racialized because we as individuals should not judge others for types of music that they listen to. It's such a blatant thing to justify others based on music that they listen to. It's just music, we need to chill out
morcica but that won't happen when if you go into any rap music comment section and if they find out your white they basically tell you to fuck off
TripleM Have you ever seen X's concert? It's full of white people lmfao
morcica x is shit though so thats like saying yung leans concerts are mostly white
TripleM I'm just telling you how a real life event differs from UA-cam comment section. I'm not saying that you're wrong nor am I attacking you, you're 100% correct in fact
morcica yeah i was just kinda pointing that out sorry if i sounded like a jerk
when i was in high school all my black friends called rock garbage except for jimi hendrix (they couldnt even name one song of his) but i eventually got them into rock music and you know what did it was i played blood sugar sex magik then they were on board with rock music but not completely so it was rage agianst the machine and a few others but soon they loved rock and were listing to bands like led zeppelin and the doors all the time
BSSM is American music at it's finest. Great choice.
awookieandagerman thanks , it really is one of the most perfect albums ever created
I am black and i listen to a lot of metal and other stuff on the spectrum, i tend to dodge the question. However, it is not mainly because i am black, it's mainly because it's difficult to explain my tastes to people who only listen to pop music and rap. Living in the UK, nobody ever really gave me that much shit for liking metal, except for a couple of family members, but they are African and they don't get it, it is something really far from familiarity considering the culture they come from, so i don't really get offended. I saw people making comments about how black people are obsessed with being a monolith or whatever, but from my experience it is completely false. You really couldn't be able to do that with the black people i know because they all come from different cultures and different religions. I remember some girl who told me that ever since she found BET, she felt closer to her black roots, because she felt that she had been abandoning it the whole time by hanging out with white people all the time. All i thought was, wtf, your from Angola, not America, i was confused af.
I was just rambling kind of at the end, I just thought i would post something that will get lost in the sea of unfunny memes, i probably took too much effort to write this.
It's messed up how much American "black" culture is colonising the minds of Africans and other non-American black people.
I believe it's best to listen to the wise words of Lemmy Kilmister, when he was asked a similar question.
"Tell em to shove it. Jimi Hendrix did alright."
I believe it's important to note that everything Anthony says also applies when it comes to genders in music. Like how culture tends to assume girls don't like rock music (or a lot of types of music for that matter, but I'll stick with the rock thing for simplicity), or especially that they can't make rock music, simply because of the more patriarchal culture in which rock and roll began. The idea of a girl drummer or bass player seems to astound people even more than that of a black drummer or bassist, for instance. Of course no one questions female singers, but then it's like they don't believe girls can play instruments. Ever heard of Alabama Shakes? Heart? Fleetwood Mac? The White Stripes? seriously.
awookieandagerman It's a weird stereotype, plenty of girls like rock music, possibly even more so than dudes...
There is a stereotype of girls not being able to sing hard rock/metal but I've literally never seen or heard any of the other stuff. Most of the biggest rock and metal fans I know are girls, and no one thinks anything of it.
Glad I didn't give up on Gorillaz and Jpop/Jrock music back then. Everybody that called me weird are now basic af and/or currently enjoying what they missed out on.
Don't compromise
thank you so much for having this honest 1 on 1, I can always come here to see your insight and a healthy community in the comments!
almost healthy. There are a lot of fuckin retards here.
they eat well
Magnificent Man seriously it's like they wait for a new video to upload then they post a shitty meme for likes I joke around sometimes but they got no balance
4:10 This is so true, if it's not R&B, Soul, or some form of Hip-Hop, in this case Trap then people will consider it trash because they only follow it via what is popular now. This is also why I hate trends.
As a AA, I can confirm that culturally we're like this. It's not "cool" for us to listen to genres that aren't R&B, Soul, Hip Hop, Disco, etc. Even though I usually listen to Hip Hop and Soul because I prefer it, listening to especially "white" genres like Country or Metal will get you roasted. So until it becomes more culturally acceptable, this'll continue. Unfortunately I don't see this stopping anytime soon.
As someone who has had this conversation years ago when I was a child... I was asked "Do you listen to black music?" I said "Sure, I listen to Jimi Hendrix, Bob Marley, Living Colour..." I was stopped "No man, black music" I said "They are black..." "They're not black music though, man" (if this would have been now he would have said bruh). I said "Why are they not black music?" "Because it's not rap...". I realized that music that had a black artist performing it didn't mean it was black music to what was urban youth at the time, because it didn't align with a cultural standard of being American music from the ghetto and because of that the artist race didn't count as far as being black enough. What I found funny was a few years later, the same black kids that tried to school me on black music were walking around in Hendrix and Marley t-shirts...
tbh im still haunted by the fact that they used to bully the shit out of me in school because i was into metal and rock music :(
Pharaoh A. That shit fucked up bro.
Same. But like from everybody. They just called it trash lmao
Solidarity brother.
i never forget one of my peeps called soad "black metal/devillish music" and unironically listens to playboi carti
Anthony Fantano
are you my dad?
please come back
This almost seems like a jacksfilms comment section nwo
Team SMSD - Me me big disappointment
Danguy 10 nah he ain't black enough to pull that shit
Kinda reminds me how a bunch of hip hop listeners call jazz shit and white music. Like Jazz birthed hip hop.
I can name two or three certified classic white jazz artists off the top of my head; I can't begin to count how many black ones come to mind. If jazz of all things is now known as white music, idk what to think...
how is jazz "white music" there are literally so many black jazz legends
Both Jazz & Rock n roll invented hiphop, Chuck Berry was rapping in 1956, Jazz ppl were doing breakbeats & instrumental “rap battles” since forever.
Never heard anyone say this about Jazz just cus all the commercially successful jazz musicians are black def about rock n roll tho and Jazz influenced hiphop but I think Rock birthed it
This is about conformity. Truly being your own person threatens the group's existential mechanism.
Dman This is about ego. Small groups of people who kill large groups of people out of ideology. Conformity.
Dman hey man remember to vote how your social group votes or you'll be ostracized. why would people surround themselves with people who think different than them that would threaten their point of view
savage t Aesthetic Knight: Conforming against societal norms is still conforming. Nonconformists are not a small group of people. They share nothing. A nonconformist is one who may share some ideals with society and not share others, the point is that they dictate their ideals through looking inwardly.
Iceberg Slim its impossible to be a true nonconformist.
Beautifully said
I agree with the overall point of the video, but I do take issue with that "no one looks back on their younger years and says,
'I wish I were more like other people'" line
It's a really minor thing, but I feel like having conformed to whatever other people were doing would've made my life easier, and maybe even better
I'm 23 now and I still struggle to get along with most people, since I'm usually seen as a weirdo with nonsensical interests
also I was perplexed by the statement that conforming was "the easiest thing" like what do you mean? I can't not be me and like what I like, when you're passionate about something you can't just pretend you're not and invest your time and energy into something else, you know?
Shanny Hawin Yeah, it's not like we have complete control over who we are
I get that Fantano's point is more focused on accepting yourself and doing what you enjoy, but even if you manage to accept yourself, that doesn't mean that will solve your problems
Fitting in is an important part of living in society
We can't pretend other people's opinions don't matter (even if just slightly), because at the end of the day we all need to find a group who is willing to support us
MrFillzor But are your passions something so out of the ordinary that would make people wanna be away from you? I got a friend that was into Yaoi and I consider that weird, however she still had friends, I am her friend, she was talkative, she just liked something I found weird, and totally didn't like.
Christopher G. You see, that's kinda tricky to answer
I don't particularly think my tastes are all that out of ordinary, but that's because I spend most of my time with the anglophone community on the internet
So by those standards, I'm fairly normal
However, interacting with people from my country in real life is kind of a chore, because subjects that are common ground between English speakers seem to be mostly unknown to most people I meet
So I see your point and I don't mean to contradict your example, since I also have a small group of friends that don't think I'm all that odd
However, outside of this group, I'm pretty much a weirdo, hence my gripe with Fantano's statement
Given that my group is fairly small and that it's mostly composed by men, it's been really hard for me to even go on dates, because I can't really interact all that well with people outside my group (and the few girls that I do know are already dating someone)
MrFillzor I was writing a long essay to respond with when I found out that you already got the answer, you said you can't interact all that well with people outside of your group, have you come to the conclusion that It's because of what you like or because you just lack social skills? Most of the times It's the second one. You could say I am kind of weird If I told you I like ASMR, because well, I admit watching videos. of someone whispering to a mic is kind of weird, but I know this won't prevent me from knowing how to talk to people. And this is something I know because yeah I've had problems with interacting with people, I posses extroverted blood in me, but things have made me a lot more quiet, however this isn't because I like X, It's simply that I did not take care of my social interaction skills.
I may be talking shit, I don't know what kind of things you like, however If you say It's normal then I'll take your word on it and tell you I'm pretty sure the thing that is really fucking up your socializing is your social skills. And with girls It's a whole other story, however really, think about someone that is good at talking to people, If you were to dig deep down, you think they are not weird? They also don't have some things that maybe don't reveal to everybody but just their closest friends? Maybe they have some same interests as you but only a select of their friends know it.
Is "E" Ethan Bradberry?
What?
HaliniSnow lol
Did someone say my name???
>"CHUCK BERRY"
How many times does this need to be said?
Listen to what SOUNDS GOOD to your ears. If you can relate to it, if it's fun, if it's interesting, if it's just sounds, melodies, or anything else you like, LISTEN to it without shame. Too many people feel like you have to listen to something other people like, something that applies to you or something you want to be like.
I don't get why peoplw get so hung up on this. Back in my South east Asian country, nobody is possessive or jealous or a certain genre. Plenty of Malaysian and Indonesian rock stars and rappers... Plenty! Love your channel ❤
Hell yes!!! Malaysian/Indonesian rock has a special place in my heart because they've always sound so different from other types of rock.
"dont you feel silly/ridiculous being black listening to weezer?"
Yes always yes
This is probably one of my favorite videos of yours. Kind of brightened my day since I was going through a similar situation, thx :)
Sad that in 2018 folks still can't deal with individualism.
"Rock music inherently bad"😂😂😂 The beatles, Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin, AC/DC, and Nirvana, are some of the most acclaimed artists of all time .
AC/DC lmao the dudes who made the same song 700 times yea dont know about them
"You have already won because your being yourself"
Thank you melon, I've been needing to hear that
Phil Lynnot fronted Thin Lizzy in the 70s and was subjected to multiple accounts of racism but never backed down from what he loved, do whatever you want lad, race shouldnt be an issue in whatever music you like, I think that's what can be so powerful about music, it brings so many different people together
Thin Lizzy were one of the greatest rock bands of all time. Take a look at their discography and talk to any fan about which albums are the best. There are one or maybe two semi-duds, and literally everything else is some kind of classic, nearly incomparable. Not to mention the Lizzy went totally metal at the end of their career and it was epic. And who was cooler than Phil Lynott, the singer/songwriter, bass playing front-man who happened to be a black Irishman? No one. No one was cooler than Phil Lynott, even the Fonz would agree.
"Being yourself is one of the hardest things you can be."
This is a great video.
I saw Hendrix in the thumbnail, and had to click it Fandango. Hendrix is probably my favorite artist of all time, and in my time listening to and playing his music it's brought more people together than any music I know young, old, any skin color, from any country.
I never even thought about the skin color of the artist I listen to . why the hell would I .
Neither would I ! I just learned today that the guys in the Blue Man Group were blue !
@@Charlyfromthenuclearcity ...
So does that mean logic can listen to both rap and rock
Jimi and em where my two favs when I first got a phone and could explore the internet freely
I kinda feel the same way as the dude who wrote the letter. It's kinda awkward when you show up to a DIY punk show and you're the only black person
Who cares, man. When I'm in the pit, and I'm screaming along with my favorite punk artists, and moshing, the last thing I care about is race. I'm not doing this, and simultaneously making my rounds counting up if the races are equally represented at the show. I see a group of people who like the same music. And I guarantee you everyone else feels the same way.
ImTooAbstract same here. I'm Puerto Rican and sometimes I'm one of the few dark skinned people in the crowd, but fuck it man it's all good!
I know I'm late, but I just wanted to tell you that ESPECIALLY at punk shows race is the last thing you should worry about. Punks are all about equality and rebellion to the status-quo, many of em are hardcore anarchists, so i know it may feel awkward, but try not to worry about it
I'm from Poland and no one really understand why I listen to people like Danny Brown and Brockhampton, but now I don't even bother to explain why I like that kind of music.
But when they really want the answer I say "because I like that kind of music". They normally give me a weird look and change the subject.
Crazy how i can relate to this thank you so much for speakin about it and thanks to E. for raising the question
Nah not really cause I fw Rock heavy, Nirvana, Guns n Roses, hell Rock N Roll n Rap are quite similar being that they both vocalize being at your best and shaping the world
Ion get why some people refuse to listen to more than one genre, I grew up listening to rock music but got into hip hop from my friends when I was like 12, those are the 2 genres I listen to the most consistently but I also listen to genres like jazz, R&B, funk and soul, people could benefit from expanding their music knowledge outside of one genre or at least trying out different genres to see if they actually like it or not
I remember when Lil Wayne went "rock" (eyeroll) and A lot of his fans were really into it but still thought Jimi Hendrix was a white guy
It's 2017. Most of the new culture is global, everyone is permeated by the internet flux. You may think you live in a ghetto but you actually live a great amount of your life online mingling in a potluck of global culture. So increasingly people will simply express these inter-influences and just do whatever they want and find their niche on the world wide web or whatever is replacing that. Ethnicity might become a blurry notion in a 100 years, yet that doesn't imply we will have solved racial issues (I have no idea about that, will people mix or segregate?), just that the racism might go on while people develop a more homogenous sense of culture (and not in the current state of anglo-american aesthetics prevailing in the mainstream, rather I think we will pass through a better balance of inter-continental influences until then).
I agree on most points, and my one point of real disagreement is minor, and supports the basic thesis: Rocknroll wasn't really black or white- it was mixed- it was what came from mixing black blues and jazz with white appalachian folk ( from bluegrass to country swing).
What about the kids that say rap/trap is trash because it's mainstream and that 80s rock is better?
Literally every Middle School Music fan
Ryan Keenan It's in high school too. It's more annoying and cringey there.
TheDragoonFactor For me it was everything around. Anything mainstream was instantly good for some reason.
TheDragoonFactor That used to be me 2 years ago, thankfully I matured
Honestly, when I was in school, my friends and I also got picked on for listening to the "wrong" kind of music. In my case the wrong music was stuff like hard rock, metal and punk. I think teenagers are dicks who will find a reason to pick on the weird kid for doing anything out of the ordinary and the race issue is probably just a dumb justification.
I love this video 💜 I hope to see more deeper topics on this channel relating to or exploring people and music. I mean music represents us anyway so why not more conscious writing implicating music and society from a psychological, sociological standpoint. It's amazing to watch these issues talked about here ✊🏼 totally refreshing 💩
what color did you paint your nails Anthony? :)
I bet it's pink
tibtib fifi whats wrong with pink 😤😠😠😠😤😤😤
I don't get people who only listen to one kind of music because I'm a casual music listener and my favourite artists would be tame impala, nirvana, blank banshee, kendrick Lamar, com truise, death grips, lil pump
It's definitely awkward having the "oreo" label.
This was so awesome..thanks for crushing the box and being open to express truth.
Im black and i love weezer
You should be able to listen to any genre of music freely. But the race influences on genres are undeniable.
This was such a good video. I got online harassed for being on the evening news to talk about something political too. And. Yeah. Not giving up fo so. Thanks for the vid, anthony!
Anthony, I might not agree with you on everything, but I appreciate you finally bringing this up. It's comforting that there's another voice of reason out there that's not gone insane, y'know?
I just hate this narrative that "oh, it's only okay for a Khajiit to like these genres" or "Argonians can't play like that because it's appropriating from the Osimer" and I know I'm rambling a bit, but it's just frustrating. It's frustrating.
Anyway, I guess that's it, nothing much else to say. Thanks for being you melon.
Any fantano video but every time he says "you know" or "uhm" he gives DAMN. A 7
I think you can have a work of art addressed to a certain group of people, be them your friends or your enemies, or any specified group you mean to target. It's just that some people might enjoy it without having much clues about the drama on point, like they are removed and or feel unconcerned (even oblivious) culturally by the content or message of your art.
Man this was incredibly hard to sit and listen to. I FF through some of what but just wondering was Eminem mentioned at all in the video? I would be surprised if he wasn't.
I can't tell if I like the memes in the comments or if I want an actual discussion about music. I'm conflicted.
Listen to what you like because you like it. There's nothing harder than being who you are when other people are telling you who you're supposed to be. Do it anyways.
Rapthony Rocktano here, the internet's trappiest breakdown.
One of your best videos yet only 140k views, UA-cams algorithm is ass
i feel like i look back and think i wish i was like everyone else except in this context it was because if i truly acted like myself as a kid and not how i tried to act then, i would have fit in more with everyone else and perhaps made more friends and life connections. but this is slightly a conundrum because it contradicts your "no one on the planet has looked back and thought i wish i was more like everyone else" but its also similar bc i agree i just wish i was Myself back then which would have been "like everyone else" :) p.s. yknow who knows though because i have aged a lot and nothign i know now was possible for me to know back then so if that's naturally how my life led me to behave, does that mean it's how i was? but i dont want to get in the concept of time, because then maybe that kid only exists back then and its not me how i am now.
I think racial biases in music aren't a bad thing. Anyone can make any type of music, but ignoring that most of the best rappers are black and most of the best rockers are white is stupid. It's all about culture really. It's true that American/UK rock came from black American rhythm and blues, but the (mainly) white people that made it pushed it into a new form. We all acknowledge that different nationalities have their own music like Jamaican dancehall, African type beats, Mexican folk, etc. It's not racist to acknowledge that different people are naturally better at making a certain type of music because it's cultural.
Most rap, mainly old rap, is about the stuggle of poverty, drug dealing, and trying to make it big. Country music was always about farm life and everything about living in a small town. Those old rappers and country artists we're putting their experience through the form that was most accustomed to "their people".
Again, this isn't to say that someone of a certain race can't make great music using other cultural influence. Vampire Weekend was raked over the coals for "stealing" African music. Drake has obviously thefted Jamaican sounds to make modern rap. Wale uses his African roots in rap. Rage Against The Machine, one of the biggest rock bands ever, was headed by Zach de la Rocha. OF COURSE anyone can make music in any way they want, but it's not disrespectful or racist to notice that certain music is dominated by a certain race or appeals widely to a certain race.
"It's not racist to acknowledge that different people are naturally better at making a certain type of music because it's cultural." When you start saying certain behavior is natural to certain races you're being racist.
Erline Andrews A person from Nigeria making Hausa music will natually be more enthusiastic and probably better at making it than another nationality, even from another African country. It isn't racial it's about nationality. I'm saying that music links to tradition. Traditional rap music was dominated by black Americans. We have our Eminems of the world who are great white rappers but there are significantly less white rappers than black rappers. The reason is that a lot of white people don't have such drive to create rap music as black people do. The reason rap has stayed dominated by primarily black people is because modern rap is following the roots of itself. Race plays a part in what I'm talking about but I'm trying to show how tradition is more of a factor than race. It's not racist to think about these things.
You insist on using the word "naturally". You realize there's a difference between being naturally able to do something and learning it because a lot of people around you were doing it?
I actually don't agree with his basic point. I don't think culture is the main reason most rappers are black and most rock musicians are white. The social expectations of your race has a lot to do with it and I think that's wrong.
Erline Andrews My wording is bad in just saying "naturally". What I mean by saying that is that there is a more natural inclination for a person entrenched in that culture to use their cultures musical history. I'm Hawaiian and I try to connect to my culture by learning old Hawaiian folk songs. I'm more inclined to do that than a white person because of my nationality. It isn't a cultural expectation to do that. If you grew up as an ethnic kid in the inner city, listening to rap and having something relevant to your situation being said through rap, you're more inclined to make rap if you use that as your inspiration.
Thanks, Anthony. I needed the intro bit today
fantano rocking the open plaid shirt on this one u kno hes going in
Lemmy had a great stance on this. Look up the vid
Tl;dr : racializing everything is an American thing
Exactly. Unfortunately, because of powerful American media, O her nations are thinking like now.
We get that you don't like hip hop, Anthony, but I think wearing a Klan outfit in your video was taking it too far
Lemmy Kilmister answered a similar question (you can find the video on youtube) he says some really smart stuff.
I'm about to drop the mood in the comments section and be serious (sry fam), but I feel like this discrimination also happens among genders. Guys are suddenly "gay" or "girly" when they enjoy music from female pop artists or genres like KPop. Girls have to prove that they're not "fake fans" when they reveal they listen to classic rock or metal (insert the *if you're really a fan of ___, name non-title tracks* thing or some other ridiculous clapback). Gay men are expected to listen to pop divas and know pop culture like the back of their hands. Lesbians are expected to stan lesbian/bisexual female artists.
Idk what my point is here but people just like to put others in boxes like let them live and enjoy the music they like smh
Chuck Berry = Rock & Roll
This complements the new Hip Hop DX video well
Like I'm a big fan of MURS, but like, I'm an even bigger fan of not excommunicating different sects of hip hop.
This got surprisingly fucking deep. One of my favourite fantano vids.
Those persons that said that probably listen to Lil yachty, Lil uzi and etc
This feels like that this question came from Some Black Guy.
lol i was just thinking about that
for sure
TastySnackies I assumed so yeah, white people go through similar stuff if they’re big hip hop fans too.
Colton Curlee Do we though
Of course it is, did u skip the part when he was reading the letter
bruh just say one of Dr.Dre's favourite bands in nirvana
Great answer Anthony, I agree with you. It's a good advice. Keep listening to what's meaningful to you, whatever it is. Stay curious and open as well, but it shouldn't have any relevance to your racial background. Music is universal. Personally, I don't look at the genres or at the person behind the mic before deciding to listen to it or not. That's why I like your channel, because you're not limiting your reviews to anything. The only reason not to listen to something is if it's really dreadful (mind you, I do it, and it's funny...), it's a test to see how long I can hold on to these before I press stop, basically :D Bad shit has some purpose, I guess! haha! Anyway, listen to what you want to listen to and oink oink to the haters (to stay polite)... Peace & luv' folks.
That's funny, because I just recently asked the exact same question for ARTV's Dear Jon.
4:29 FACTS! Melon is preaching so hard I thought I was in church 🙌
Every time the industry starts pushing us out of our own music, a mass of ppl stigmatize it and shun it. Jazz, Rock, House, etc. It's like a survival mechanism, we immediately deem it uncool or unacceptable and move on. "Oh, Elvis the King, huh? Never mind the greats and pioneers. Okay, we onto the next one, that over there is wack, we don't mess with that then." Just how it goes. But anyway those people would be very surprised, I suppose, that the actual hiphop artists whom they love have all types of diverse influences and taste. Sheesh Scarface went and started a rock band lol. Beast on the guitar. Chuck D! I mean the most popular samples.... nuff said.
At the end of the day, you get 70-90 years on this planet (if you're lucky), and after that, the most likely thing you'll experience is a black void of nothingness or some sadistic eternal punishment for your sins. You simply don't have time to worry about what other people think of your music choices. Listen to whatever you want to listen to whilst you still can.
I've had experiences that prove that this problem goes both ways. I've tried to put my opinion out there on popular hip hop pages on instagram, but I've been told that since I'm white I "don't know anything about hip hop." I've been called countless names, and it wouldn't really help listing them all here, but I think it can't be ignored that white people are absolutely shunned when it comes to hip hop.
Maybe it's a black or white thing, but hispanics like listening to punk, metal, and hip hop without any backlash or anything like that.
I am somewhat glad that there's actually more opinions here than the usual trolling
Papa melon teachin me life lessons today, but really thanks Anthony
Literally was just arguing with people about this. Can't wait to hear ur opinion
These sounds are for errybody out here.
Originators should get their due credit tho.
I would rather people be open to every idea but if they are closed off I respect their way of living. I'm just like a less active participant but I still respect other people's views unless its just outright bullshit.
I'm a Charizard that really digs Ekans music... Wut do, Melon?
I think that while cultural norms should indeed be fluid, they will always have a history that informs their momentum. I don't think the reason "white people music" is a category can be summed up as simplistic prejudice. Of course a more considerate approach to the person who emailed you is ideal, but there is a huge amount of history and experience that goes into such resentment toward the music your emailer listens to. I think a legitimate argument can be made for the 'whiteness' of certain facets of pop culture and the 'blackness' of other facets. The danger in doing this, of course, is giving into the idea that to categorize in such a way is to permanently restrict said facets.
I guess the biggest point I'm making is that being socially conscious means reconciling the influence history has on normality with the idea/hope that such normality can change/evolve/refine itself, etc.
My favorite music acts are Lamb of God and Run the Jewels.
As a white guy enjoying typically african-american genres of music (soul, jazz, hip-hop) more than , say , rock, I find it weird that it's not weird fora white guy to enjoy hip-hop but it's viewed as weird for a black person to enjoy rock! Wtf? Most rock pioneers were black! The world is strange...
yeah it would be a shame to limit yourself because of other people's opinions. If they don't like it, it's their problem, they have to walk those dogs. There is so MUCH GOOD MUSIC in existence don't let them cheat you out of the experience.
I think I'm starting to like this channel more than the main
Melon is such a Wise Melon :)
Great Video :)
Is that a giant weenie whistle in the background?
TakeALookAtBanner
Smh. A *true* Fantano fan would know it's actually a Oscar Myer piggy bank showcased in the *Vegan Death Threats* video (appears at timeframe 1:30) on the *Thatistheplan* channel.
Don't see why so many commenters are acting as though black people are the only ones who act clique-y or think you're weird for being different. There are plenty of non-blacks who can't handle a strong independent black person that don't need no Top 40. Sometimes even just knowing about The Smiths or The Strokes is enough to surprise some of them. Also going to a MBV show is kinda WOW to some of these folks because in their minds MBV appeals to quiet, introspective, emotionally sensitive people and blacks are supposed to be loud and confident, so black person at a MBV show = does not compute. Same shit applies with more cerebral/experimental/dark/weird forms of music too. There have also been times when people of other races would be all like "hey I've been listening to lots of golden age rap recently? *looks at me in a 'do you find that cool?' way*" I stood the fuck out wearing my rainbow scarf at a Sutcliffe Jugend show when pretty much all the other people were there in a "uniform" (dark clothes, body mods, alt-fashion, military shit, etc).
I only listen to cave beast music
I experience this a lot, other black ppl say I'm acting white bc I love rock and alternative, great to see another pov on this problem.
I just love hearing melon talk I'm not gunna lie he can be talking about anything it just doesn't matter I'm going to listen