Fr I must be weird because eggnog with rum is genuinely revolting to me. I want to like it, I love rum, but the combo just hits every bad signal in my taste buds.
10 year Delta Diamond member here. Connor has it exactly right. ALWAYS Pack in the morning. Arrive 45 min before flight (clear+global entry) and immediately board. NEVER rent a car - only slows you down.
Us Giants fans need a lot more than this for Christmas!!! lol From what I’m hearing there won’t be a Red Rider BB-Gun type QB hidden behind the couch. 1 year late on pick 1!! 😔 Happy Holidays!!
Packing for a trip routine is: Step 1- Begin packing midnight the day before and clean the house that I’ve put off for 2 weeks. Step 2- wake up sleep deprived but ready to go 😅
As an Ohio State fan, I love how you explained the Ohio State schedule. Sometimes it gets a bit boring through the regular season cuz it's basically Penn State, Michigan, and then every other game is a failure if you don't win by 5+ TDs. At least with some Pac 12 teams joining maybe it will get a bit more exciting like the Oregon game was one of the most fun reg. season games outside of The Game I've seen as a fan.
I'm an airport guy. I find it relaxing because i'm usually quite organised. Sitting back and watching other people rush and panic is great fun. And for packing, depends on flight time. If I have to leave home before midday it's done night before, if after it can wait til morning.
@@knowledgeuntamed9177okay, but have you seen how he makes defences miss? Have you seen the “weapons” around him? Have you seen the o-line or the time and time again his defence has let him down, or when Kliff does Kliff things?
@tannerroberts9669 Sounds exactly like the Bears my team crazy enough who are seriously considering Kingsbury as Head Coach 😭🙏🏻 Please No!!! He doesn't understand balance or how to scheme for the run imo. Johnny Newton is a Star but Johnathan Allen is an All Pro who controls the Line, Stops the Run, and gets pressure so him being out hurts bad. Payne is Not that level of DT and I would trade him. 💯 Go Allen/Newton next year and get Edge help. So Kliff uses some great schemes, they work great, but once you identify how to stop it, he can't adjust. Ex. Bears got stomped because they couldn't stop the TE/WR Crossing Rub/Pick. A Good D is gonna jam the WRs, Blitz while getting a LB up in zone under that crossing. So you gotta have secondary routes built in and Not alot of guys are that smart.
@@tannerroberts9669 So Jayden and WRs gotta know, Ok if you're Jammed Streak. They will have to chase and I'll drop the 🏈 on you. Or, use a slant or drag route so they can't jam you and get Great yac. 3yard throws going sideways usually always end up 7-8 yard plays atleast. Also, I like my RBs to fall forward 4yards not back 2
Yes, you can rent a car before you’re 25 it’s just way more expensive. Thus why all the old heads tell you not to do it. $325 for 2 days compared to $150 after I turned 25 last year. Happy to provide some insight. Love the pod
@@CasonovaCorkClubIn Raiders world, its being rumored that Gabriel is their plan B after Shedeur. And, being thst Brady is going to be a big part of the qb decision, the implication would be that Brady like Gabriel...
This episode was released at a perfect time. I never had egg nog before and I made some for my work and it was fantastic. Wasn’t spiked for obvious reasons. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
Connor, my brother in Christ, what you described is not liking eggnog. What you described is liking rum 😂 Swap the eggnog for hot apple cider and consume your rum like a civilized human 😂
For Leonard I think he’s gotten a lot more comfortable as the year as gone on. Part of that is definitely his surgery in the offseason which kept him out of all spring practices meaning he hadn’t gotten enough reps in the new offense with new faces to throw to.
I did not realize everyone's Jaxson Dart takes are so extreme. Some people think he's hands down Top 3, while others think he's Day 3 at best. Yall werent lying when yall said he's polarizing.
I am so glad someone else has been seeing what I'm seeing out of Will Howard. I'm certainly not going to claim to be a scout or know the ins and outs of what exactly makes an NFL qb and such, and at first I wondered if it was a TON of bias from being an OSU fan. But for me, I have been completely impressed with Will, there are definitely throws that are not perfect from him, but im seeing a dude who rarely makes mistakes, when he does he can put it behind him, and he LOVES to sling the ball into tight windows. I've watched TONS AND TONS of throws that are out routes lined up well and good enough timing, I've got screenshots that I took because I was like "UH HE'S THROWING THIS BALL SOLELY BECAUSE THE LB IS TURNED AROUND LMFAO, THIS DUDE WILL MAKE AN NFL TEAM HAPPY" because as a Panthers fan, this is the stuff we missed out of Bryce for a long time (who btw clearly has his confidence back entirely, called that the entire time that he wasn't going anywhere, just happy he turned it around this quickly, I thought we were Dalton this year Bryce next), but this is the kind of player where... we dont have Dalton back next year. Give me Howard. He's NFL size, good enough arm (even if I agree with Connor that... it's not Cam Newton arm, yknow? but im certainly not 'out of top 10 QBs because the arm isnt Cam's'), and he's reading the defense. Even in those early games, where he's 'along for the ride' as you guys put it. He's at the helm of the ride, hitting Egbuka because he's 1 step ahead, throwing it up where only Jeremiah Smith can get it. At OSU, we have the talent that those plays are all positives. Egbuka is ALWAYS getting at least 1 step, Smith is damn near always catching the fade. And that just won't be the case in the NFL. But... it doesnt mean you dont throw those! Hell I've watched the panthers throw fades to Adam Thielen. He will get his shot man, and personally is a player I'd bet on. Could easily have a Geno style career imo
Kurtis Rourke at only 10 is criminal! All the positives you said about Gabriel apply to Rourke... But Rourke is 6'5" with a better arm and better athleticism, better pocket presence... You gotta rewatch him man, especially early in the year. He got an injury to his throwing hand like halfway through the year and it clearly affected him
Gabriel had his two best games against Ohio State and Penn State while Rourke had his best vs terrible FBS teams and G5 teams. Obviously traits mean a lot here but there’s a difference in play between those two
Except Gabriel has been an absurd level of accurate for years now, whereas Rourke's completion % is inflated by running literally more RPOs than any other QB in college football this year. Love Rourke, just pointing out that's a big proverbial feather in Gabriel's cap over Rourke.
Really glad Trevor has Gabriel #4. Every time I watch Oregon and obviously he's on Oregon with a bunch of really talented dudes, but he always looks good. I am not much of a ball knower, but at least I'm not crazy.
Gabriel CFP will be the only way he gets drafted day 1. He is at most a 4th rounder. And I'm from Hawaii. We sometimes root our guys or over-rate our guys. Gabriel will be a solid back up at most in my opinion. If he ends up on my fave NFL team, of course i hope i'm wrong
As an Ohio State fan, im kind of in-between both of their evaluations on Will Howard. I agree with Trevor that he has the makings of a guy that can stick as a backup in the NFL. He seems to be very deliberate at spreading the ball around the field and is pretty accurate while doing so. Also having the size and legs raises his floor. But I also 100% agree with Conor when it comes to the arm. Howard can hit some deep balls if he throws them early and it travels around 30/40 air yards (like his big throws against Teneesee). But asking him to really drive the ball and throw it way down the field is not his calling card. He has been pretty terrible at the real deep balls (around 50 air yards or more) definitely better suited as a intermediate to deep range passer. He also seems to have atleast 1 pass per game that is incredibly innacurate and misses by a mile. Maybe a QB coach can really dig into his mechanics and unlock more out of his arm, but until that happens I think he is a high floor backup caliber QB. Still its cool to see how his chances of becoming a pro has flourished since coming to Ohio state. He seems like a great leader and ive loved the year hes had at Ohio state
Would like to see Dillon Gabriel picked up in the 2nd or 3rd rd by a team that has a vet that's still good but may be on their way out in a yr or 2. My top 4 places would be the Seahawks, Rams, Saints, or Cowboys.
59:53 The best draft eval I ever saw in my 10+ years of following the NFL draft process was on it was on Ewers on was this “If Quinn Ewers was in the 2011 recruiting class he would be seen a lot differently by scouts than he is by current day standards, back then he would probably would be a regular high end 4-star high school recruit that’s a boom or bust prospect and he would just be “another guy” in the eyes of the public. But with him being the next one according to high school scouts put a lot of pressure on him as well as a celebrity (though a pretty good player in his own right) is your back up is a lot of pressure on this kid, with that said, according to 247Sports, in 2021 they saw the best quarterback ever. When they evaluated him, they envisioned a world Patrick Mahomes’s style will translate into immediate success on the college and pro levels and for all systems where footwork and traditional skills no longer mattered, and backyard football and arm talent are the only things that matter at the NFL level. The reasons they deemed him their greatest QB prospect ever shows up on tape, but only in slivers and flashes. Yet, the same could be said for a good portion of high level NFL starters. Plus what makes Mahomes so great is he has all these tools but he also has timing and rhythm to his admittedly wonky mechanics down to down, Ewers timing with his mechanics is piss poor at worst and good at best, he needs to be just average every play and he will be a top 10 QB in the NFL that’s how special he can be but it hasn’t developed to this point and maybe never will, because of that maybe he should be evaluated like that a QB like him would have been seen 10 years ago and the problem is Ewers’s flaws don’t align with heavy RPO and timing system that Sark runs at Texas, also the direction of the NFL game is going that’s more under center play action heavy than years past indicates he will struggle in the NFL unless he’s placed in a system that masks his deficiencies or sits behind a similarly highly talented veteran quarterback (similar to a Jordan Love situation). Without one of those two factors, he’s likely to fail and look Matt Leinart bad doing it. To me the only place where he can succeed immediately is Seattle with Ryan Grubb a vertical motion passing offense (more akin to the one he ran at Washington than he does In The pros) that may rely on some timing but uses his special arm and less traditional dropback passes to work efficiently down the field is where Ewers in my opinion will be a huge asset.” High-End Comparison: a short version of Jordan Love Low-End Comparison: Jeff Driskel
Shedeur Sanders just has a really really high football IQ and I think that the fact that his Dad was a amazing Cb help him with knowing how to read Defense. My top 5 Qb are 1. Shedeur Sanders 2. Cam Ward 3. Quinn Ewers 4. Jalen Milore 5. Dillon Gabriel
Most important part you need to add for Jaxon Darts scouting report is that he arguably has the best QB name of all time. Football gods can't let a guy named Jaxon DARTS not become a star.
Pack basics 2-3 nights in advance; pack most things the night before and something like a book, the morning of: dob kit, tech & chargers. This depends on HOW early you're getting picked up. Last time I got picked up at 5:45 AM and did miss some things...
McCord’s eligibility argument is that he played 5 games of mostly garbage time in 2021. There are rumors Ryan Day signed off on his waiver request, but it seems kinda unlikely they’ll give him a retroactive redshirt
Raiders should use their 3rd rounder from the jets on Gabriel. Take Mason Graham 1st, get best WR available 2nd round, BPA early 3rd round, Cam Skattebo 4th round, Jake Majors 5th
As a "professional" who travels by airport for a living, with average 7-5 am flights out. Pack in the morning. At least arrive 2 hours before departure. But my wierd trait is that I enjoy sleeping on planes.
Haven’t watched a second of film, but based on your description of Jaxson Dart, I imagine him as Anthony Richardson in the body and physical capabilities of Bo Nix lol. And I’m not sure if that’s a good QB or not. 😂 Will be very interesting to see how his draft process goes.
Jaxson Dart is my QB2. He’s the prototypical NFL QB. Gets the ball out quick, good arm talent, extremely decisive. He may look average in cfb, but he doesn’t need to change his game up at all to play in the nfl. These pocket sitters like Cam Ward and Shaduer Sanders are gonna get a reality check because in reality, waiting for 5 seconds for a receiver to get wide open then making a deep pass is the easiest thing to do as a QB even though casuals will drop their jaws to the floor when it happens. The small window, 6 yard slants passes to a receiver in tight coverage are WAY more impressive and harder to learn. Every part of Darts game that is negative is extremely easy to teach. All his strengths are the unteachable traits.
His LSU game is more than enough proof he isn't NFL QB material. Dude looks, sounds, has the name, has the highlights. But when it comes time to beat a team that is almost as good as his he always fails and not just fails but combusts. Vs Florida and LSU and Kentucky with a pretty solid roster advantage in all those games. His team needed him to be better than mid level College QB and never did he step up. Lane Kiffen knows it he'd rather give a DT the football with the game on the line than his QB. He's worse than Matt Corall in nearly everyway.
Petition to add pressure to sack ratio to the list of stats on screen for each QB. Or at least just total sacks taken for the year, but I think P2S gives a better picture
Show idea id love to see, maybe after the draft: taking a look at some notable draft busts over the last few years and trying to figure out what went wrong. Ideally players where the consensus was wrong (I.E. Evan Neal) as a way of understanding what teams saw in them and maybe where these teams are failing in developing these players.
I think this NFL year has shown just how valuable a good/great back up QB is. This QB class will be better for the NFL Teams then it will be for the Fans but that’s ok!
@ I don’t entirely disagree with you but I think you have a higher chance of one of these QBs being a good/great back then QBs in other draft classes is that I’m trying to say.
Cam Ward’s the only guy I would take round 1 confidently in this class. Lot of round 3-5 guys who I love as backups or developmental guys. Last year six guys went top-15 and probably only 4 will be in the league in six years. This year will have 1-2 go top-15 but probably have 8 in the league in six years.
This is a longshot but I’ve been trying to find a clip from NFL Stock Exchange where the guys talked about playing varsity baseball as freshman. Some very funny stories out of that. I think the convo came from being dual sport athletes. Anybody remember the episode?
I need to know y'all thoughts on Max Brosmer. He showed elite pre & post snap reads. Also was great at the FCS level and came to Minnesota and once he got going, after the first couple weeks, balled out. Also going to the Shrine bowl and works with Sean McEvoy & Quincy Avery. Feel like he'd be a nice late flyer, but no one is talking about him.
For my Raiders since we ruined our Draft pick, I like Milroe, Dart, and Howard as possibilities as future QB1 with a Vet like Fields or Winston to help be a Bridge QB.🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️
I agree that Ewers has been playing better, I also think Ewers injury against UTSA really affected his play after coming back for a while, a lot more than the team wanted to admit.
The Shedeur-Deion thing reminds me of Lonzo Ball and Lavar a few years ago. Because his dad was such a big talker, everyone expected so much out of Lonzo and hated on him because of the influence of his father in the media. When in reality, Lonzo (not taking injuries into consideration) is a solid player in the NBA
@@JJ-zr6fu I mean Penix already had the insane arm talent, a rocket launder arm isn't something you can coach in a couple years lol. But I agree in the sense that another year at Bama would do good for him.
Only watched the intro so far. I’ve never heard someone talking about eggnog and assumed they mean straight up eggnog. To me eggnog is an alcoholic beverage, not a good one but it’s an alcoholic beverage haha
I’m telling you these guys barely watch film on these guys ! Saying Shedeur needs to work on his int when 4 of the 8 were tipped/ fluky plays . Talking about Kyle McCord seeing the field better and not hesitant from OSU to Syracuse ? Like that shocking when he had more weapons on Syracuse as a whole over top end elite talent at OSU
Love the breakdown and banter as always gentlemen, but as a Giants fan I’m left feeling sad after listening. For the future of this franchise I would want them to take Hunter or best OT or trade down. I don’t trust this current regime to not desperately take a QB though. Wouldn’t hate Milroe in 2nd at all. Happy Holidays to you guys and all the NFL junkies listening on Christmas Eve!!
100 percent pack in the morning ! How could you do it any other way? You might need things the day before that you are packing . What is more important is to make a list of what you need to pack the day before and then pack the morning of
Having Conner Weigman qb1 preseason should be a fireable offense but glad you're still here lol
Suspended without pay at the very least
that’s 2026 #1 pick conner weigman to you
@@SpicyMappingYEEEAAAHHHH
Never wrong, just early.
@@jordansmith906very, very early. In fairness to Trevor, he looked the part in '23.
Im definitely on the Trevor scale of liking airports. I like getting there early, grabbing a beer and just chilling. Makes the experience stress free
Yes!!
It’s late, but I’m still going to watch the whole episode even though my wife’s boyfriend told me to go to bed 😈
That is diabolical 😂
Lol Wtf!!!
Uh we have a rebel over here!
Naughty boy!
Fool what!!!!
If drinking straight eggnog is satanic, then call me Lucifer
You don't wanna put that bad mojo on yourself bro. GOD Bless 🙏🏻. Egg Nog is the shizit.
Fr I must be weird because eggnog with rum is genuinely revolting to me. I want to like it, I love rum, but the combo just hits every bad signal in my taste buds.
10 year Delta Diamond member here. Connor has it exactly right. ALWAYS Pack in the morning. Arrive 45 min before flight (clear+global entry) and immediately board. NEVER rent a car - only slows you down.
Maybe only domestic flights. International and flights over 4 hours I need that lounge time lol.
@@grantgrant6746international flights are a different beast and do not qualify here
This was an awesome show. A great primer to get to know the QB class.
Giants fans needed this christmas present thank you boys and happy holidays!
Us Giants fans need a lot more than this for Christmas!!! lol From what I’m hearing there won’t be a Red Rider BB-Gun type QB hidden behind the couch. 1 year late on pick 1!! 😔 Happy Holidays!!
Connor is a man of culture with the tears of the kingdom reference 👏🏾
Packing for a trip routine is:
Step 1- Begin packing midnight the day before and clean the house that I’ve put off for 2 weeks.
Step 2- wake up sleep deprived but ready to go 😅
As an Ohio State fan, I love how you explained the Ohio State schedule. Sometimes it gets a bit boring through the regular season cuz it's basically Penn State, Michigan, and then every other game is a failure if you don't win by 5+ TDs. At least with some Pac 12 teams joining maybe it will get a bit more exciting like the Oregon game was one of the most fun reg. season games outside of The Game I've seen as a fan.
I'm an airport guy. I find it relaxing because i'm usually quite organised. Sitting back and watching other people rush and panic is great fun. And for packing, depends on flight time. If I have to leave home before midday it's done night before, if after it can wait til morning.
Jayden Daniels made this not have to be my favorite episode of the year anymore and for that I love him dearly
You realize careers are longer than 1 year right? Been alot of guys very good year 1, Nfl D gets tape on them and they can't adjust.
@@knowledgeuntamed9177 Way more QBs succeed after one good year than suck after
@@knowledgeuntamed9177okay, but have you seen how he makes defences miss? Have you seen the “weapons” around him? Have you seen the o-line or the time and time again his defence has let him down, or when Kliff does Kliff things?
@tannerroberts9669 Sounds exactly like the Bears my team crazy enough who are seriously considering Kingsbury as Head Coach 😭🙏🏻 Please No!!! He doesn't understand balance or how to scheme for the run imo. Johnny Newton is a Star but Johnathan Allen is an All Pro who controls the Line, Stops the Run, and gets pressure so him being out hurts bad. Payne is Not that level of DT and I would trade him. 💯 Go Allen/Newton next year and get Edge help. So Kliff uses some great schemes, they work great, but once you identify how to stop it, he can't adjust. Ex. Bears got stomped because they couldn't stop the TE/WR Crossing Rub/Pick. A Good D is gonna jam the WRs, Blitz while getting a LB up in zone under that crossing. So you gotta have secondary routes built in and Not alot of guys are that smart.
@@tannerroberts9669 So Jayden and WRs gotta know, Ok if you're Jammed Streak. They will have to chase and I'll drop the 🏈 on you. Or, use a slant or drag route so they can't jam you and get Great yac. 3yard throws going sideways usually always end up 7-8 yard plays atleast. Also, I like my RBs to fall forward 4yards not back 2
Yes, you can rent a car before you’re 25 it’s just way more expensive. Thus why all the old heads tell you not to do it. $325 for 2 days compared to $150 after I turned 25 last year. Happy to provide some insight. Love the pod
Your opinions on Gabriel make the Tom Brady loves Gabriel rumors make sense.
Did Brady speak highly of Gabriel??
@@CasonovaCorkClubIn Raiders world, its being rumored that Gabriel is their plan B after Shedeur. And, being thst Brady is going to be a big part of the qb decision, the implication would be that Brady like Gabriel...
He’s what 5’10 and Brady was 6’6
@@lancekirk994 Gabriel is most likely 5'11 but we won't know for sure until the combine. And Tom Brady is 6'4 and a quarter.
Cam Ward to Malik Nabors will feed families
This episode was released at a perfect time. I never had egg nog before and I made some for my work and it was fantastic. Wasn’t spiked for obvious reasons.
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
Connor, my brother in Christ, what you described is not liking eggnog. What you described is liking rum 😂
Swap the eggnog for hot apple cider and consume your rum like a civilized human 😂
For Leonard I think he’s gotten a lot more comfortable as the year as gone on. Part of that is definitely his surgery in the offseason which kept him out of all spring practices meaning he hadn’t gotten enough reps in the new offense with new faces to throw to.
Jalen Milroe to Rams, 49ers or Jets in second round could be so fire.
Yeah Jalen Milroe to the rams would be perfect
I want milroe with daboll or eagles or ravens.
@@Collegefootballscouting1 Nah, i think 49ers. They keep losing their qbs. RAMS can use the Dart kid
Can McVay and Shanahan adjust their offensive approach to an running QB?
I am sceptical.
Love the out of context clip in the beginning of every episode.😂
That's called a "cold open"
I did not realize everyone's Jaxson Dart takes are so extreme. Some people think he's hands down Top 3, while others think he's Day 3 at best. Yall werent lying when yall said he's polarizing.
Listening to this while packing the night before a flight
Here for the Jaxson Dart takes
More like Jaxson Duck bro is the least clutch QB I have ever watched. Like worse than Oregon Herbert levels of disappointment in big moments.
I am so glad someone else has been seeing what I'm seeing out of Will Howard. I'm certainly not going to claim to be a scout or know the ins and outs of what exactly makes an NFL qb and such, and at first I wondered if it was a TON of bias from being an OSU fan. But for me, I have been completely impressed with Will, there are definitely throws that are not perfect from him, but im seeing a dude who rarely makes mistakes, when he does he can put it behind him, and he LOVES to sling the ball into tight windows. I've watched TONS AND TONS of throws that are out routes lined up well and good enough timing, I've got screenshots that I took because I was like "UH HE'S THROWING THIS BALL SOLELY BECAUSE THE LB IS TURNED AROUND LMFAO, THIS DUDE WILL MAKE AN NFL TEAM HAPPY" because as a Panthers fan, this is the stuff we missed out of Bryce for a long time (who btw clearly has his confidence back entirely, called that the entire time that he wasn't going anywhere, just happy he turned it around this quickly, I thought we were Dalton this year Bryce next), but this is the kind of player where... we dont have Dalton back next year. Give me Howard. He's NFL size, good enough arm (even if I agree with Connor that... it's not Cam Newton arm, yknow? but im certainly not 'out of top 10 QBs because the arm isnt Cam's'), and he's reading the defense. Even in those early games, where he's 'along for the ride' as you guys put it. He's at the helm of the ride, hitting Egbuka because he's 1 step ahead, throwing it up where only Jeremiah Smith can get it. At OSU, we have the talent that those plays are all positives. Egbuka is ALWAYS getting at least 1 step, Smith is damn near always catching the fade. And that just won't be the case in the NFL. But... it doesnt mean you dont throw those! Hell I've watched the panthers throw fades to Adam Thielen. He will get his shot man, and personally is a player I'd bet on. Could easily have a Geno style career imo
Hey!!! Can we get a Top 5 Fullbacks list?
Would also appreciate a top 5 long snappers list
Whats a fullback? 😯😏😂😉
@boki1693 Welcome to 2024 😭
@@hopsinburneraccount685 Agreed 💯 I put that in the tweet I sent the guys so... Hopefully they hear us.
@@hopsinburneraccount685 They could do Top 5 on these, don't have to do 10 really.
Trevor’s face during the Jaxson dart segment was super funny
Kurtis Rourke at only 10 is criminal! All the positives you said about Gabriel apply to Rourke... But Rourke is 6'5" with a better arm and better athleticism, better pocket presence... You gotta rewatch him man, especially early in the year. He got an injury to his throwing hand like halfway through the year and it clearly affected him
Gabriel had his two best games against Ohio State and Penn State while Rourke had his best vs terrible FBS teams and G5 teams. Obviously traits mean a lot here but there’s a difference in play between those two
Except Gabriel has been an absurd level of accurate for years now, whereas Rourke's completion % is inflated by running literally more RPOs than any other QB in college football this year. Love Rourke, just pointing out that's a big proverbial feather in Gabriel's cap over Rourke.
Interesting analysis on McCord i think his arm is stronger than Purdys…
Really glad Trevor has Gabriel #4. Every time I watch Oregon and obviously he's on Oregon with a bunch of really talented dudes, but he always looks good. I am not much of a ball knower, but at least I'm not crazy.
In the nfl size matters and he doesn’t have the arm strength like Bruce young tua and Murray have
Gabriel CFP will be the only way he gets drafted day 1. He is at most a 4th rounder. And I'm from Hawaii. We sometimes root our guys or over-rate our guys. Gabriel will be a solid back up at most in my opinion. If he ends up on my fave NFL team, of course i hope i'm wrong
How you have Gabriel ranked 10th is beyond me… he might end up the best of the whole group!!!
Best early christmas gift I could ever ask for
Agree whole-heartedly with Trevor about Dillon Gabriel.
As an Ohio State fan, im kind of in-between both of their evaluations on Will Howard.
I agree with Trevor that he has the makings of a guy that can stick as a backup in the NFL. He seems to be very deliberate at spreading the ball around the field and is pretty accurate while doing so. Also having the size and legs raises his floor.
But I also 100% agree with Conor when it comes to the arm. Howard can hit some deep balls if he throws them early and it travels around 30/40 air yards (like his big throws against Teneesee). But asking him to really drive the ball and throw it way down the field is not his calling card. He has been pretty terrible at the real deep balls (around 50 air yards or more) definitely better suited as a intermediate to deep range passer. He also seems to have atleast 1 pass per game that is incredibly innacurate and misses by a mile.
Maybe a QB coach can really dig into his mechanics and unlock more out of his arm, but until that happens I think he is a high floor backup caliber QB. Still its cool to see how his chances of becoming a pro has flourished since coming to Ohio state. He seems like a great leader and ive loved the year hes had at Ohio state
Would like to see Dillon Gabriel picked up in the 2nd or 3rd rd by a team that has a vet that's still good but may be on their way out in a yr or 2. My top 4 places would be the Seahawks, Rams, Saints, or Cowboys.
The question everyone wants to hear is that if Drew Allar declares is he an obvious QB1 in this class and is he a blue chip grade
I was so happy to see Trevor give Dillon Gabriel his flowers I have him at QB3 freshman breakout and boy is a stud
Glad to see the Brosmer discussion. Think he's worth a late round flyer given his release and football acumen
59:53 The best draft eval I ever saw in my 10+ years of following the NFL draft process was on it was on Ewers on was this “If Quinn Ewers was in the 2011 recruiting class he would be seen a lot differently by scouts than he is by current day standards, back then he would probably would be a regular high end 4-star high school recruit that’s a boom or bust prospect and he would just be “another guy” in the eyes of the public. But with him being the next one according to high school scouts put a lot of pressure on him as well as a celebrity (though a pretty good player in his own right) is your back up is a lot of pressure on this kid, with that said, according to 247Sports, in 2021 they saw the best quarterback ever. When they evaluated him, they envisioned a world Patrick Mahomes’s style will translate into immediate success on the college and pro levels and for all systems where footwork and traditional skills no longer mattered, and backyard football and arm talent are the only things that matter at the NFL level. The reasons they deemed him their greatest QB prospect ever shows up on tape, but only in slivers and flashes. Yet, the same could be said for a good portion of high level NFL starters. Plus what makes Mahomes so great is he has all these tools but he also has timing and rhythm to his admittedly wonky mechanics down to down, Ewers timing with his mechanics is piss poor at worst and good at best, he needs to be just average every play and he will be a top 10 QB in the NFL that’s how special he can be but it hasn’t developed to this point and maybe never will, because of that maybe he should be evaluated like that a QB like him would have been seen 10 years ago and the problem is Ewers’s flaws don’t align with heavy RPO and timing system that Sark runs at Texas, also the direction of the NFL game is going that’s more under center play action heavy than years past indicates he will struggle in the NFL unless he’s placed in a system that masks his deficiencies or sits behind a similarly highly talented veteran quarterback (similar to a Jordan Love situation). Without one of those two factors, he’s likely to fail and look Matt Leinart bad doing it. To me the only place where he can succeed immediately is Seattle with Ryan Grubb a vertical motion passing offense (more akin to the one he ran at Washington than he does In The pros) that may rely on some timing but uses his special arm and less traditional dropback passes to work efficiently down the field is where Ewers in my opinion will be a huge asset.”
High-End Comparison: a short version of Jordan Love
Low-End Comparison: Jeff Driskel
I ain’t reading all that shit
Bro typed out a English paper
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Kurtis Rourke is going to be the biggest value pick
Gabriel is going higher than you think and I would put money on that
as a ND fan I can confidently say Daniel Jones was miles ahead of Leonard as a passer.
I’m excited to hear your thoughts on the tackles/online, I’m hoping the pats draft 7 oline men this year
Shedeur Sanders just has a really really high football IQ and I think that the fact that his Dad was a amazing Cb help him with knowing how to read Defense. My top 5 Qb are 1. Shedeur Sanders 2. Cam Ward 3. Quinn Ewers 4. Jalen Milore 5. Dillon Gabriel
Most important part you need to add for Jaxon Darts scouting report is that he arguably has the best QB name of all time. Football gods can't let a guy named Jaxon DARTS not become a star.
Pack basics 2-3 nights in advance; pack most things the night before and something like a book, the morning of: dob kit, tech & chargers. This depends on HOW early you're getting picked up. Last time I got picked up at 5:45 AM and did miss some things...
The way you describing this class it’s sounding a lot like 2015 with Winston and Mariota at the top and then a deep drop off
McCord’s eligibility argument is that he played 5 games of mostly garbage time in 2021. There are rumors Ryan Day signed off on his waiver request, but it seems kinda unlikely they’ll give him a retroactive redshirt
Canada has 10 provinces (and 3 territories). Rourke is from Ontario.
Raiders should use their 3rd rounder from the jets on Gabriel. Take Mason Graham 1st, get best WR available 2nd round, BPA early 3rd round, Cam Skattebo 4th round, Jake Majors 5th
As a "professional" who travels by airport for a living, with average 7-5 am flights out. Pack in the morning. At least arrive 2 hours before departure. But my wierd trait is that I enjoy sleeping on planes.
Giants fan here: Please draft Ward
Haven’t watched a second of film, but based on your description of Jaxson Dart, I imagine him as Anthony Richardson in the body and physical capabilities of Bo Nix lol. And I’m not sure if that’s a good QB or not. 😂 Will be very interesting to see how his draft process goes.
Jaxson Dart is my QB2. He’s the prototypical NFL QB. Gets the ball out quick, good arm talent, extremely decisive. He may look average in cfb, but he doesn’t need to change his game up at all to play in the nfl. These pocket sitters like Cam Ward and Shaduer Sanders are gonna get a reality check because in reality, waiting for 5 seconds for a receiver to get wide open then making a deep pass is the easiest thing to do as a QB even though casuals will drop their jaws to the floor when it happens. The small window, 6 yard slants passes to a receiver in tight coverage are WAY more impressive and harder to learn. Every part of Darts game that is negative is extremely easy to teach. All his strengths are the unteachable traits.
Cam Ward, known pocket sitter
Lol @@calebqueen2090
Connor is a bum like not in his top 10? wtf lol
don't hate this take, i esspecially like ur reasoning, i disagree lol but i get the thinking.
His LSU game is more than enough proof he isn't NFL QB material. Dude looks, sounds, has the name, has the highlights. But when it comes time to beat a team that is almost as good as his he always fails and not just fails but combusts. Vs Florida and LSU and Kentucky with a pretty solid roster advantage in all those games. His team needed him to be better than mid level College QB and never did he step up. Lane Kiffen knows it he'd rather give a DT the football with the game on the line than his QB. He's worse than Matt Corall in nearly everyway.
Dude connor hit on jaxson dart hes about to surprise alot of ppl
Petition to add pressure to sack ratio to the list of stats on screen for each QB. Or at least just total sacks taken for the year, but I think P2S gives a better picture
Sanders... below Cam for me... Sanders tho will win the games you're supposed to win... But Cam will lift a team when everything is failing.
Show idea id love to see, maybe after the draft: taking a look at some notable draft busts over the last few years and trying to figure out what went wrong. Ideally players where the consensus was wrong (I.E. Evan Neal) as a way of understanding what teams saw in them and maybe where these teams are failing in developing these players.
If klubnik comes out where he ranked looked very impressive has a lot of skills
I think this NFL year has shown just how valuable a good/great back up QB is. This QB class will be better for the NFL Teams then it will be for the Fans but that’s ok!
No it won’t back up qbs are even more of guess than starters. The bears and cowboys back ups were undrafted
@ I don’t entirely disagree with you but I think you have a higher chance of one of these QBs being a good/great back then QBs in other draft classes is that I’m trying to say.
Frequent flyer here (Delta platinum), I pack the morning of most of the time, arrive about an hour before takeoff
Cam Ward’s the only guy I would take round 1 confidently in this class. Lot of round 3-5 guys who I love as backups or developmental guys.
Last year six guys went top-15 and probably only 4 will be in the league in six years. This year will have 1-2 go top-15 but probably have 8 in the league in six years.
Shedeur Sanders to me he has the highest floor
Just out of curiosity, if sanders has a worse draft grade and ceiling what made you keep him as QB1 rather than give the nod to Ward?
If my flight isn’t super early then I pack in the morning. Anytime after noon
This is a longshot but I’ve been trying to find a clip from NFL Stock Exchange where the guys talked about playing varsity baseball as freshman. Some very funny stories out of that. I think the convo came from being dual sport athletes. Anybody remember the episode?
I need to know y'all thoughts on Max Brosmer. He showed elite pre & post snap reads. Also was great at the FCS level and came to Minnesota and once he got going, after the first couple weeks, balled out. Also going to the Shrine bowl and works with Sean McEvoy & Quincy Avery.
Feel like he'd be a nice late flyer, but no one is talking about him.
And now i see finishing the video that you did. Much love y'all
Riley Leonard is my fav developmental QB.
Gonna need you guys to keep going deep through those weeds. Us addicts crave it.
lol the pause during Shough 😂😂😂
For my Raiders since we ruined our Draft pick, I like Milroe, Dart, and Howard as possibilities as future QB1 with a Vet like Fields or Winston to help be a Bridge QB.🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️
Winston is a freakin disaster. If the Raiders sign Winston, i will lose my sh!t.
Would love to have Fields and Milroe along with Todd Monken as HC/playcaller
I agree that Ewers has been playing better, I also think Ewers injury against UTSA really affected his play after coming back for a while, a lot more than the team wanted to admit.
this QB class is the eggnog of the NFL draft
If the Steelers keep Russ on a 2-3 year deal and Justin walks, what mid-round QB prospect would fit best?
Beck to the Rams in Round 3 just makes a lot of sense in my eyes.
I’m 100% with Trevor on this one. Eggnog is pure “carton snot”!
If the Dolphins want to move on from Tua Dillon Gabriel is a seamless fit and replacement.
As a former enterprise Rent-A-Car employee, I can confirm you can rent a car under 25 years old. However, there is a $25 per day under age fee lol
6’1 205… Last thing I do before I leave is pack and get to airport right before boarding.
Morning flight -> Pack the night before
Afternoon/Evening flight -> Pack the same day
Will Howard QB1 baby
Sure maybe the first QB taken on the third day of the draft
@@hassensaleh2323nah.
That “pause” had me keeled over
The Shedeur-Deion thing reminds me of Lonzo Ball and Lavar a few years ago. Because his dad was such a big talker, everyone expected so much out of Lonzo and hated on him because of the influence of his father in the media. When in reality, Lonzo (not taking injuries into consideration) is a solid player in the NBA
I also love airports! It might be because the Atlanta airport is nice though
Milroe is still the guy I want to bet on in this class. Give me the ceiling, still my QB1.
Not having Will Howard in your top 10 is wild stuff C
Texas fan. Love Quinn for bringing the program back, he mentally f's up wayyy too much... and can't stay healthy
Milroe will be fine once he gets time to develop I guarantee it.
He should stay in school. De boer turned Penix from a running qb to the best arm talent in last years draft.
@@JJ-zr6fu I mean Penix already had the insane arm talent, a rocket launder arm isn't something you can coach in a couple years lol. But I agree in the sense that another year at Bama would do good for him.
These guys need to be in some NFL teams’s scouting department.
Only watched the intro so far. I’ve never heard someone talking about eggnog and assumed they mean straight up eggnog. To me eggnog is an alcoholic beverage, not a good one but it’s an alcoholic beverage haha
riley leonard plays quarterback how i imagine a cartoon would animate a character playing quarterback
Calling Jaxson Dart "Jaxson Fart" was uncalled for, but good takes i guess
When I was in the service I used to sleep in the USO the night prior and then catch my flight in the morning
Cards fan here and think the Cards should move back in round 1 and draft Milroe to develop behind Murray.
I’m telling you these guys barely watch film on these guys ! Saying Shedeur needs to work on his int when 4 of the 8 were tipped/ fluky plays . Talking about Kyle McCord seeing the field better and not hesitant from OSU to Syracuse ? Like that shocking when he had more weapons on Syracuse as a whole over top end elite talent at OSU
Love the breakdown and banter as always gentlemen, but as a Giants fan I’m left feeling sad after listening. For the future of this franchise I would want them to take Hunter or best OT or trade down. I don’t trust this current regime to not desperately take a QB though. Wouldn’t hate Milroe in 2nd at all. Happy Holidays to you guys and all the NFL junkies listening on Christmas Eve!!
lol I’m listening to this while packing the night before
Eggnog is amazing ! Plain or spiked either or is great.
Too much personal talk I didn’t care about! Turned it off at the 26 minute & change mark. 🙄
What a Christmas gift.
When you doing a rb ranking!!??
100 percent pack in the morning ! How could you do it any other way? You might need things the day before that you are packing . What is more important is to make a list of what you need to pack the day before and then pack the morning of