According to the dev's notes, the grubs are indeed more powerful than the herald, the idea was to remove the big amount of damage in a single hit and replace for a bigger amount of damage in a longer timeframe
But its way too impactful compared to something like herald or baron, which only serve as temporary empowerments. Like Zwag said, grubs buff should either fall off in the late game or be nerfed a bit. Otherwise the team with the most early game grubs has a gigantic advantage.
Grubs are great, but they definitely should fall off after 20 mins or when all tier 1s are dead. Prob after 20 mins, cause having void grubs for sieging inhib turrets and nexus turrets? Waaay too OP
Imo they arent that strong. People are just hyped and overeact cause its a new think. On 3 stacks when you start hitting a turret you can see ho many dmg it does via white number and it isnt much. When I chunk turret to half hp that passive usually do like 200hp which is nothing. Thats like 5 aa
@@adyon4047 but it is such an strong advantage early gane considering its true damage at a state in the game where turret plating is active, it can be such an early game economy boost
Yes but you aren't explaining the actual issue with old herald. In the higher ranks you would choose herald over drag since you can snowball a lane so easy with it. This caused everyone to fight over herald the second it spawned. It was a very bad design
@@wesleyimschoot7597 A lot of people (including maybe Zwag) seem to be unaware of the fact that hubris is a real word, Riot didn't make that shit up lol. It means "excessive pride or self-confidence"
from what I understand, lethality gives flat armor pen this season.. against a team without any armor, 3 lethality items means true damage anyway, no need to build more.. I would instead buy 3 lethality items, one of em being collector, then IE and BT so the ult damage scales with the insane ad those items give, plus the crit scaling
Hubris is actually correctly pronounced like you did (húbris) with the mark pointing to the syllable that is louder. It is an Ancient Greek word. In Greek (ύβρις) Hubris means (when you do something that is above your mortal strength acting like a god and thus worthy of a god's wrath or punishment. Please like the comment so Zwag will see it!
The Mord support is starting to work extremely well. Support burn item, slow staff into riftmaker.... if you dont need resists grab leo burn and shadowflame or cosmic. Ive ran same build on nasus except for slow. But when you ult your melting everyone near you. I almost wonder if going 2 support items bot lane can work... maybe the no jungle comp is worth going again, or at least start in jungle for buffs and move between top and mid.
Everytime i see you play this i keep screaming at you lol. Zwag: Oh my ult does half veigars health in damage. Me: THEN STOP SCARING HIM AWAY BY OPENING WITH IT! Fun times, GG
the normal game mode feels fun to me again before it felt boring because I couldnt deal any damage, so I like the unbalanciness alot it makes the game more fun for me
At roughly 5 minutes I love how after starting a channel to Teemo, Cait as an auto attacker is like I want no part of trading with a Mo. *I know the 2v1 potential* he thinks
collector, axiom arc, PD, infinity edge, quickblades, BT or mortal reminder. lethality and crit, with quickblades, you can double dip in crit damage bonus.
"lethality Hecarim isnt good" Dantes begs to differ, just seen him destroy with lethality. Problem with Hecarim is that people dont know how to build items and runes on him.
If I remember correctly they changed it to add more power to her traditional adc build since everyone was building lethality. Maybe they'll reduce it to 4 soon 😮
LDR is always better than any combination of lethality items. Late game people have around 100 base armor or more...just the LDR takes a huge chunk of that, more than 2 lethality items
omg thank you for saying this i cant stress it enough ldr is always best late since it helps lethality even more even if they got 200 armor that 35% is equal to 3 and something items of lethality+ the crit damage scaling you will shred everything like butter
I suspect that ulting for some money other than immediately before recalling results in money loss since missing a single kill invalidates half a dozen or more of such first strike ults.
Can you do another orianna. She was my favorite champ. I used to play season 2 but lost everything i owned. So watching your vids literally is like therapy. I love watching your videos.
the truth is this build doesn't really work from gold and above ranked. tried it in 5 different games ranked and always lost. the energized and attack speed is more versatile
The fact mid turret stood at the end of the game with over half HP that ENTIRE game is something special.
According to the dev's notes, the grubs are indeed more powerful than the herald, the idea was to remove the big amount of damage in a single hit and replace for a bigger amount of damage in a longer timeframe
But its way too impactful compared to something like herald or baron, which only serve as temporary empowerments. Like Zwag said, grubs buff should either fall off in the late game or be nerfed a bit. Otherwise the team with the most early game grubs has a gigantic advantage.
Grubs are great, but they definitely should fall off after 20 mins or when all tier 1s are dead. Prob after 20 mins, cause having void grubs for sieging inhib turrets and nexus turrets? Waaay too OP
Imo they arent that strong. People are just hyped and overeact cause its a new think. On 3 stacks when you start hitting a turret you can see ho many dmg it does via white number and it isnt much. When I chunk turret to half hp that passive usually do like 200hp which is nothing. Thats like 5 aa
@@adyon4047 but it is such an strong advantage early gane considering its true damage at a state in the game where turret plating is active, it can be such an early game economy boost
Yes but you aren't explaining the actual issue with old herald. In the higher ranks you would choose herald over drag since you can snowball a lane so easy with it. This caused everyone to fight over herald the second it spawned. It was a very bad design
8:09 Imagine TPing to lane and getting sent RIGHT BACK bro
Zwag not seeing the boneplating aura on teemo twice when he said "why does he have so much hp" 😮
I mean, it is still a boneplate, not a damn bulletproof vest 🤣
@@carvalhorosolen with lethality it is.
8:05 he just got back and already has to back xD
can we talk abt the graves flaming him in 9:25 for not helping when he had no mana? 💀
plus in the midgame graves was casually strolling into mid after farming his jungle and taking the mid wave just for the heck of it
That's so classic of some league players, no awareness :D
20:37 the irony of saying "That's really good for our hubris" 😂
I thought the exact same thing 😅
Why is that ironic? Doesn't he get more stacks for the kills? (Not sure, haven't looked into the new items)
@@wesleyimschoot7597 my man needs to hit up a dictionary
@@wesleyimschoot7597 A lot of people (including maybe Zwag) seem to be unaware of the fact that hubris is a real word, Riot didn't make that shit up lol.
It means "excessive pride or self-confidence"
@@RenaleighK Oh ok! Is it an English word? I'm Dutch so I don't think it's a word in our language :P Or does it come from Greek/Latin?
“Did Zwag Xerath get the first 6 CS?”
Yes, he got all 6!
Win Streak: 1
I'v3 been looking forward to this
That was brutal to watch. That ending was something else.
Day 210 asking for a gnar video
I support this
Cap
I support this as well
😂
Lethality gnar
I feel for this Teemo. He tried his best, but always late for the ults.
Good game, awesome content :)
from what I understand, lethality gives flat armor pen this season.. against a team without any armor, 3 lethality items means true damage anyway, no need to build more.. I would instead buy 3 lethality items, one of em being collector, then IE and BT so the ult damage scales with the insane ad those items give, plus the crit scaling
Hubris is actually correctly pronounced like you did (húbris) with the mark pointing to the syllable that is louder. It is an Ancient Greek word. In Greek (ύβρις) Hubris means (when you do something that is above your mortal strength acting like a god and thus worthy of a god's wrath or punishment. Please like the comment so Zwag will see it!
21:28 zwag always chooses the worst places to base lol
The Mord support is starting to work extremely well. Support burn item, slow staff into riftmaker.... if you dont need resists grab leo burn and shadowflame or cosmic. Ive ran same build on nasus except for slow. But when you ult your melting everyone near you. I almost wonder if going 2 support items bot lane can work... maybe the no jungle comp is worth going again, or at least start in jungle for buffs and move between top and mid.
" I sit out of combat for a while, then I just burst. "
Me too brotha, me too
Everytime i see you play this i keep screaming at you lol.
Zwag: Oh my ult does half veigars health in damage.
Me: THEN STOP SCARING HIM AWAY BY OPENING WITH IT!
Fun times, GG
Assassins get a buff
Caitlyn”looks like it’s my time to shine”
Hi could you show us Nekko mid in season 14? I wonder what will be the best build for her
The lethality hydra… you have to try that on top, that damage is crazy. I build that on Riven yesterday, in mid game the active deal 600+ damage.
the normal game mode feels fun to me again before it felt boring because I couldnt deal any damage, so I like the unbalanciness alot it makes the game more fun for me
Imo quickblades would be good with lethality as well for more ult and q dmg
And now I know why Zwag calls “coup de gras” “cut the grass” 😂
At roughly 5 minutes I love how after starting a channel to Teemo, Cait as an auto attacker is like I want no part of trading with a Mo. *I know the 2v1 potential* he thinks
@33:09 - Lol that trap was awesome
3 am... ok, I still didn't want to sleep
21:36 "Welp; that's gonna hurt"
33:05 shitting on Teemo was the highlight of that play.
collector, axiom arc, PD, infinity edge, quickblades, BT or mortal reminder. lethality and crit, with quickblades, you can double dip in crit damage bonus.
Thanks for the great vid Zwag!
I guess Graves regrets saying that to Zwag xD
Sniper cait videos are golden
Feier diesen Typen beste zum einschlafen
Should call it huge-bris.
Also heh, the hubris of backing in the middle of the lane.
zwag u need to try jhin with titanic hydra! it gives him an aa reset, so i think its currently the only way to make hin shoot faster
he already did those
Wait rt? when?
@@W3b3r365in the testing server
33:08 Warwick: U NO TOUCH WAIFU
@3:33 Why wait for full hp like that? Leave base at 80-90% and you will be at 100% by the time you reach your lane.
you never realized zwag is just a bad / average player? check the sccounts he plays on . they are never higher ranked than silver
Ggs, would love to see some Swain action with new items, have a good day 👍
Hell yeah new Snaitlyn video (that's what this should be called now)
Challenge where you can only buy whole items, no components. Will probably be pretty easy but fun to see the powerspikes
"lethality Hecarim isnt good" Dantes begs to differ, just seen him destroy with lethality. Problem with Hecarim is that people dont know how to build items and runes on him.
Can you do Sivir with maximum amount of shields?
Cait videos really are your best
Now imagine if Lithality Caitlin wasn't nerfed. Oh boy
I love your videos, thanks for what you're doing.
you gotta try ap vaarus this season, it is unbelievable
Wait a minute... since when does Cait need only 5 autos to get her headshot proc?
Hasn't it always been 5 autos?
@@hyneable it got reworked from 6 to 5 some time ago, not long since it was a 6 shot passive
It was reduced from 6 to 5 in August. V13.16
Only needs 3 if you're in a bush
If I remember correctly they changed it to add more power to her traditional adc build since everyone was building lethality. Maybe they'll reduce it to 4 soon 😮
Dosent quick blades give you extra crit dmg on your ult?
Second skin of the day: Safari Caitlyn.
Whats the % for the execution on the colector? that teemo was soo low and didnt get execueted
It's always a graves acting weird in every video I see 😂
Hi how is that last hit on first kill have so long range? It wasn't head shot or was it?
The E gave him the extended range but he also headshot before the flash from veigar so it followed him
At 18:35 you just shot your trap.
LDR is always better than any combination of lethality items.
Late game people have around 100 base armor or more...just the LDR takes a huge chunk of that, more than 2 lethality items
30% of 100 is 30. LDR is better than two lethality items vs at least 122 armor, of which it penetrates 37 against the 36 of two 18 lethality items.
omg thank you for saying this i cant stress it enough
ldr is always best late since it helps lethality even more even if they got 200 armor that 35% is equal to 3 and something items of lethality+ the crit damage scaling you will shred everything like butter
and let's not forget about the bonus damage on very high hp champions on top of everything
@@fabdvl is every lethality item 18 now? Some used to be 10
@adameves5970 there's no more 10 lethality items, the lowest you can get is 15 now
Just call it Humid at this point 🤣
Illaoi Support: Bloodsong, Dead Man's, Hullbreaker, Sterak's, Sundered Sky and Merc's.
Hubert is really doing work
The warwick looks so funny sometimes
Zwag, you should definitely call it "Hubertus" I'd feel honored :)
I suspect that ulting for some money other than immediately before recalling results in money loss since missing a single kill invalidates half a dozen or more of such first strike ults.
Can you do another orianna. She was my favorite champ. I used to play season 2 but lost everything i owned. So watching your vids literally is like therapy. I love watching your videos.
Yes I'm in a better place now
Recommendations go grudge it gives flat pen and percentage pen
We definitely don't want the horse man to come get us D:
i think if you get kill early you should go Hibris first cause it give you stack earlyer and after that Collector
do you lads remember sniper cait mid with sanguine blade first? god i miss this stupidly op item
KING KONG (tank WuKong)
Please make it happen 🙏🏼
Try aphelios lethality crit be4 it get nerved next patch. too op
Hey zwag, ya outdamaged the Rest of your Team by total of 6577 gg ❤
Pretty sure you say Hubris like the ancient Greek playwrites that often used it as a moral lesson, habedashery.
Can you please make a Qiyana video?
The Brutalizer is old school.
Wouldn't I.E be a great item in matches like this when armor-pen ain't nescessary or am i tripping?
Can you try the oneshot with blue card with twisted fate?
Atack speed TF with new items is awesome
I’ve been seeing karmas annihilating people supp and mid
I'm all here for Mr. Hubrilton though
Petition to call hubris "hubert"
Hubris - Hyoo-briss
Excessive pride
I always gotta smile when you say Hubris wrong
Please do a sivir video for this new patch!!
lethality ("please entern champ name here") is so broken!
it's nice that you built _uber US_
it carries you
Sniper cait is always a banger
Hold Headshot on Cait late game, headshot,Q will def kill.
We need a Hubris Riven game
Day 61 Attack Speed Braum 🥶🛡
We call hubris Hibiskus and I kinda like it
you did indeed say hubris correctly
Storm surge procs on cait and jinx ult btw
start calling hubris hummus
Nice
Day one of lethality Hecarim.
sunderd sky does not work on graves, he builds it as first item...
Hubris works in aram. Just wait til u see a samira with 650ad.
the truth is this build doesn't really work from gold and above ranked. tried it in 5 different games ranked and always lost. the energized and attack speed is more versatile
he missed 1 caster minion ;(
Hubris rush is goated
if every champion is broken, then none of them are
Can you try galio Kaenic Rookern first item into a mage mid :D
Was fun to watch but my man you are a top 10 player showcasing a build in silver 2