The 1995 K2 Disaster
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- In the late K2 summer climbing season, the remnants of several unsuccessful expeditions would make one last attempt at the summit, but after they would finally the favorable weather window they needed, things would start to go amiss...
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I also apologize for my gravelly voice in this one, I was pretty sick all week :(
Glad you covered this.
Idk who said this in the mountaineering community "summiting is optional getting down is mandatory."
Ed Viesturs, I believe
@@melanielankin1738 Yes,thank you!!! I read several of his books earlier this year
Great lines
Doesn't always seem to work out.
i dont get it, is that quote supposed to be profound or something? its like saying "getting in your car is optional getting out is mandatory"..kind of obvious, maybe im missing something
I summit all your videos to the end without supplemental oxygen or sherpas.
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Me to but I do drink a bunch of kratom before I summit so the way downs not so bad.
Free Han Solo
Not humanly possible Kitten.
Gold!
It seems that beyond a certain level, true skill in mountaineering has little to do with technical prowess but rather the ability to make confident decisions about when it is appropriate to continue or turn back at any given time on a mountain.
Or just good luck.
Seems that the people who made bad decisions didn’t live to explain why
Maybe after a while probabilities just compound to kill a person.
I am such a skillful mountaineer that I have decided to never summit any mountain ever, my little voice said, "hell no"
Nope. Mostly luck.
"No one expects the SPANISH EXPEDITION!!!"
😂😂😂
That's brilliant 😂
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Winning comment 😂
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I'm completely obsessed with K2 for unknown reasons and you did a really great job telling the tale of this tragedy. I've read about it and the disaster in 2008 and I always find myself wondering what it felt like to spend the night on a cold and lonely mountain, in the death zone not knowing if you'll make it through the night. It's got to be the loneliest feeling in the world!
@@Motekk67 thanks, I will definitely check it out!
Team up with me some day to summit it, i m in sooo much love with this beautiful mountain
Yeah me too
The 2008 k2 documentary is one of the best mountaineering documentaries I have ever seen. Cecilie and Roloh broke my heart. I can’t imagine watching your partner die in front of you and you can’t even start to process it because you have to focus on survival.
@@wilderness01I wish you great luck if you try. You will need it my friend.
If I was next to the son of Hilary and he said 'I have a bad feeling about this' I will immediately turn back down.
I was thinking the same thing!!😂😂😂😂😂
He’s a survivor like his old man. Respect.
been in a mountaineering content hole for the last week and very glad i found your channel after exhausting all of david snow's collection of docos
Haha so amazing for you to mention david snows docos cos ive been watching a lot of them lately. But to be fair they're not his, just taken from other sources. Although in very grateful that they did upload so many mountaineering docos, it brings a lot of enjoyment/sadness that i find interesting!
Me too. I have no desire to go mountaineering but find the documentaries fascinating and can see why people do it
hole?
@@A-small-amount-of-peas That's me. I'm way to chicken for this stuff, but I'm fascinated with the subject.
check out scary interesting if you haven't yet
I grew up on the same street as Jeff. Last time I saw him he was training for K2. We were drinking beer with friends at the glass shop, in the neighborhood. It might as well been a bar. We talked about climbing and commercial diving. His and my person passions. We were planning on teaching each other, our fields of expertise. He was full of life, he taught me alot about life. See you on the otherside one day brother. Happy Climbing
@@Heneskah0101Not believable that people have friends?
That was great coverage of the disaster. K2 is the deadliest mountain, and one of four people that attempt to climb it die. It was nice to see you honor each person that died in this disaster at the end. Thanks for the video.
And yet someone skied down K2 a few years ago, from summit to bottom. Annapurna is slightly deadlier. Ed Viesturs, who climbed all 14 8000m peaks, was asked to compare Annapurna and K2. He said the latter was the lesser of two evils. That skier would have been killed on Annapurna, not long after leaving the summit.
Not quite true. For every four who summits, one dies trying. But lots of people are unsuccessful
@@franksmith541 The ski-ability of a mountain is hardly a good judge. But yes, Annapurna is deadlier. But every mountaineer agrees K2 is more technically challenging. Annapurna is also attempted less, which lends itself to a higher fatality. K2 and Annapurna are equals. One is harder to climb, one easier. But the easier one just kills you by having more avalanches. Viesturs point was, I believe, that atleast on K2, you're given more control of your fate. On Annapurna, you might not be so lucky. Hence, the lesser of two evils.
@@CharlesFreck A Lebanese woman summited K2 last month. How hard could it be? More people climb K2 than Annapurna because it is much cheaper to do so, and because Annapurna is only attempted by top mountaineers. Much less experienced climbers do guided climbs on K2 - especially because it is much cheaper than Everest (Nepal permit is way more expensive). An example is the long queue that formed on K2 in 2008, a photo of which was taken by a climber heading down. You never see line-ups like that on Annapurna.
@@franksmith541 lmao, okay, you just hate women, I get it. You think women can't climb, mountain must be easy. Bet you've never climbed a mountain. Not engaging with a sexist argument, fuck off. Not tolerating that
So sad how this was only a month after Hargreaves summited Everest without extra oxygen.. so fresh from an immense personal and professional success. :(
That Everest summit is what got her killed on k-2- I believe she was overly confident and it caused her to make a fatal decision.
Nothing about this is sad. These people waste thousands (these days, it's over 100,000 dollars for an 8,000 meter peak) to risk their lives for an achievement that is important only to a select few like-minded elitists. People within this group seem to believe that they are the only ones on Earth capable of these feats. But the reality is that most people don't *want* to; they don't *want* to endanger themselves and squander so much hard-earned capital just for a few minutes of elation (tempered by oxygen deprivation) and some back-patting by other mountain climbers. It's not that the majority of the public couldn't do this; it's that they're sane enough to recognize that it's a pointless, reckless, narcissistic pursuit. And that's why it's not sad - because she died being self-absorbed and wasteful.
@@wgisgr8 I'm sure it was a large factor, she overestimated her chances. There's such few time-windows for an ideal summit, and the pressure to perform is so high with these climbers, that they often go for it instead of turning back. This is what happens when you refine and perfect your "determination" skillset, and neglect your "walk away" skillset. Always be willing to walk away, Peter Hillary made the right call without a doubt. I can't imagine what it must have felt like to find her blood soaked equipment, I feel like that would haunt me for life.😮
@ceedub619cameraman3 r u a drunkard
@ceedub619cameraman3 Indeed. Those that died up there made an awfully stupid decision. They gambled when the odds were against them & paid for it. It's hard to have too much sympathy for that.
Although he didn’t survive, what Jeff Lakes achieved on that descent was more impressive than anything else I’ve read or listened to.
Incredible to me the best I can imagine. That poor bastard was in utter hell that entire way down. Then to slowly die as he already reached help. Sheesh
Thanks for ruining the video for those of us unfamiliar with the k2 1995 disaster, you're awesome! 👍
@@blerdluger2918 you looked at the comments. Shut up and stop fucking whining
@@blerdluger2918 you could always watch before reading the comments
You have to come back alive to achieve it. If you want to die in the process, there's all kinds of ridiculous things you could do. Doing so and making it back safely is the real test.
You are single handedly carrying my need for mountaineering content right now.
People have got to know their limitations. Too often things get in their way such as ego, reputations, resumes, and bravado. High price to pay. The thoughts of Mr. Hillary after the tragedy were very profound.
Kinda easy to claim they didn't know their limits after the fact. and I'm fairly sure they knew their limits very well, but sometimes its just bad luck or a freak unseen storm that can do climbers in. nothing about bloated egos, bravado or other bs
The amount of ego in this sort of climbing community regularly strikes me as way beyond what I would have patience for.
@@lornarettig3215 Yeah, it's not for everyone.
If I were climbing the mountain, I would want to summit for the simple fact that I spent thousands to get there and took several weeks off from work. It's a once in a lifetime experience, for most
@@Direbeetus Yeah I'm sure most climbers feel the same, but that's the problem, its so tempting to keep going when you really are taking on to much risk continuing and should turn around. It's a fine line.
Yep, K2 likes to kill people but I just love the view from the summit...that someone else has filmed...and put on UA-cam so I can watch it while toasty warm in bed. Much less chance of being swept away in a violent storm as well. Stay tuned for more top tips.👍
I would have climbed K2 but it looked too easy, been done. Still searching for K4.
@The Silenced You should try K9. It’s a whole other breed.
Same for me, my friend!
@@GoBlueGirl78 Y'all to clever or ambitious for my comprehension.
@@GoBlueGirl78 whole other breed? Bruh, I know for sure you have not heard nor tried K9000…
What’s crazy to me is how popularized K2 has become very recently, I saw some pictures of massive lineups to the peak and sheer amount of trash at base camp. To say the least, it’s a little disheartening.
Yes, in recent years it has become like Everest: commercial guides, sherpas, fixed ropes, etc., with some people paying $100k + for others to get them up a mountain that is way beyond their skill level.
For a mere $30,000 or so, they can even skip the hike in and have the military ferry them to base camp in a helicopter…
@@valerierodgerlol its not everest. If you think yor just ealking to the summit on k2 then you must be confused
@@junioradult6219 they're talking about the trash and fecal matter us humans leave behind. Not that it's easy. It's sad that we would rather make an achievement than leave nature be and keep it clean, you watch from afar and still see the beauty. And also how idiots are setting achievements that don't make you the best person in the world because you did a stupid thing when they could figure out a cure to breast cancer or something instead of gambling their life for a view you could get from a helicopter.
@@valerierodgerOh wait…K2 is a bit overcrowded nowadays, but I don’t think we’ll never see that shameful lines we saw on Everest this year and in 2019. The reason is quite simple: even the most unrestrained expedition company knows that on K2 the risk is too high. You can’t send an untrained person with money on K2, even with twenty guides or Sherpas, cause that mountain is so hard. My dad summited K2 in the 1980’s, he was an alpine guide and a very prolific professional mountaineer, he climbed hundreds of mountains and two eight-thousander before facing K2 and despite this, that mountain put him to the test because of its technical difficulties and its northern location, which caused probably the most infamous weather you could find on a mountain. K2 is not and it will never be like Everest. Amateur climbers dying on K2, but they can climb Everest “easily”.
I’m not surprised by these disasters I attempted k2 and failed after pushing to the summit but had to turn back due to altitude sickness. Getting to camp 4 is incredibly tough then having to turn back when your below the bottleneck really crushes your confidence, I do wonder what would of happened if I carried on to the summit if I would of made it or if I would of died. This failure had a bad effect on me and I regret it every day
I just checked where the camp 4 is and I'm already impressed what you did. The view must have been beautiful.
Bro millions of people don’t even have the balls to set foot on that mountain let alone get to camp 4. Still an awesome story to tell regardless!
@@Jjenna97305 it was you feel like you are on top of the world
Trust me its better to remember that you failed on K2 than to be remembered for succeeding at the cost of your life. I love mountaneering but there is nothing on top thats worth your life.
Drama queen
Before anyone attempts K2 or Everest, seriously ask yourself, What's more important, living or summiting? It may really come down to that.
I think nearby Pangat or what it’s called killer mountain looked scarier than these two.
ya nobody in history has ever thought of that......................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................
@@jiogcyihsugyiocjfdoivhphvw6821 The fact, that soo many have died, proves my point, you idiot...
Nanga parbat
I climb stairs, that will suffice
Congratulations me too. Also I climb in and out of my shower as well. Incredible huh.
@@sayittomyfaceidareyou8629 amazing
Allison's son,Tom Ballard,died on Nanga Parbat in 2019 . His climbing partner Daniel Nardi disappeared as well.
Edit: The Last Mountain is a documentary about Allison's family and her daughter and her dad visit the areas her mum and brother died.
I remember an interview she gave on R4 (BBC) before the expedition. I decided to adopt her as my present-day hero. I have a feeling she had problems maintaining the funding required to keep mountaineering at that level. I can’t help suspecting that may have influenced her decision-making in that very difficult situation. Desperately sad outcome.
@@callumclark3358 it seems to a lot of them that die, it’s a combination of financial losses and mental illness. Alison had data and information about the dangers; others more experienced turned back. We women are smaller and have less muscle mass which makes it easier and faster for us to freeze to death.
This channel did a video on him too.
Your present-day hero is a woman who got herself and her son killed and deserted her family? Weird.@@callumclark3358
I don't know about the lesser muscle mass increasing likelihood to freeze (women have more fat), but the physical differences between men and women are spectacular. I can't conceive of attempting something this physically demanding and dangerous as a woman. Strength, stamina, lung capacity, almost everything are stacked against you. Although women have stronger immune systems, in general.
I'd be interested in the mortality rates of these mountain climbs by gender. Men are obviously much more physically capable, but men also tend to be less risk-averse.@@TarotPolitics
I've read Fredrik Sträng's (Swedish mountain climber) book about the accident 2008, he'd also planned to summit that day. He quoted Peter Hillary, and used the decision Peter Hillary took on K2 1995, as an example to why Sträng admired Peter Hillary as a climber.
Fredrick is an unsung climbing master. The victory isn’t the summit. The victory is returning home.
Thank you for sharing.
Mountaineers are amazing in their quest. It is something I cannot fully grasp. Watching from the comfort of my home is the closest I will ever get. They are awe inspiring.
@jhdg Spoken like someone who has never accomplished anything of significance in their life.
I tried hiking up Mount Whitney (California) and had to stop and make camp partway up when I got altitude sick. I admire those that can do this, and admit I cannot.
@H K why are you here?
It's scary that K2 has not one, but three separate disasters
Definitely more to come
@@markwebster5749 Yeah. Last summer there was a conga line at the bottle neck. I'm terrified of the future
One of the most important things about mountain climbing is learning to cut your losses and run.
yeah nobody has ever thought of that before............................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................
100-140mph winds.
Those are category 4 hurricane strength winds.
Those are hard enough to stand in on flat paved ground, nevermind at 8000+m on an icy/snowy mountain ridge
It's pretty much an F2 tornado as well. I've been in plenty of tornadoes, I certainly wouldn't want to do it clinging to the side of a mountain in a tent!!
I survived category 5 Hurricane Andrew in 1992 in a bathtub as he took my house apart wall by wall. I couldn't even hear myself scream. I can't imagine being in the open, on the side of a mountain, in those conditions.
I doubt anyone has ever ascended one of the great mountains without understanding in great detail the risk involved. There is little comfort in this for those left behind, but if your passions in life lead you to peril, to die in a moment of greatness is by far preferable to any other sort of end. Too few of us live our lives in a manner worth remembering. Whether reckless or brave, these are great men and women.
This sounds great in a movie or adventure novel but I’m confident these people don’t feel that way when they’re actually dying… I’m confident in that moment they’d rather be anywhere than where they are and that they are chasing their passions or doing something great or whatever is little consolation
Looks like corporate content farms of YT have weaseled their way into disaster videos.
Happy to see you’re still here and still the best!! More people should be aware of the “farm” problem so they can support the regular people more.
How do we become aware?
@@Syclone0044 The way they speak in the video.
They use talk to text and the narration has a weird cadence (like odd pauses in the sentence) They’ll use words or phrases that don’t really make sense or fit the story.
The channel Final affliction is one, cave exploring disasters is another.
Ann reardon (a cooking channel) did a really good video on content farms and how they steal ideas and highjack views from the little guys.
@@Missconduct044 unbelievable 😔
Sometimes when I listen to these videos at night, I get up on the top bunk so that I can experience the feeling of heights.
I'm scared to death of heights so I live vicariously through their actions. I'm a 73 year old widower who still rides my 1916 cc motorcycle. You do a great job of telling these stories and watch them whenever I can. Thanks again.
Read the book about 1986 disaster called the Endless Knot.13 people died on K2 and its a miracle two of those trapped at camp 4 for 3 days survived and got down.
I am so in awe of K2 looking at this mountain from these video's. I try and imagine just how big and steep it is. Must be breathtaking to be at the base and look up at K2. Someday.
literally breathtaking as the base is still 5000+ meters up
It's not that big, you're already at 5000m at its foot. It's a 3600m peak, there are bigger mountains to behold.
That’s insane, can’t imagine trying something like that. I climbed Longs Peak in Rocky Mountain NP in April years ago and had high winds completely shred my Sierra Designs tent one night while camped in the boulder field, the rain fly was ripped in half and 3 of the 4 poles were all mangled up. It was a miserable night, had to wrap up in emergency mylar space blankets and trash bags then roll up in what was left of the tent but it’s was not life threatening.
15:30 Seriously one of the most glorious alpenglow pictures I’ve ever seen
I'm no longer able to climb mountains, being housebound and useless... These videos serve my disillusioned need for such challenges.
Man I love your work, great voice and content. Really hope you continue your amazing work so far! Please keep up the quality you've been supplying so far, you'll definitely go far!!
Wow you're the first creator to ever like my comment! Glad you noticed how much I (and of course others) enjoying your content. Even after you uploaded over 2 hours ago, for me its 5am but if im up and you upload im there for it!
That voice is…..somethin
@@Greatlakeskyle. ...Null...?
From what I have read experts say "Everest may be taller but K2 is on another level."
Hargreaves was constantly reckless. She left her son traumatized searching for her mothers "spirit" on the mountains and now he is dead to.
Is it really worth this?
They thought so. 😄
Well perhaps it’s not worth it to you and me. But we don’t know what the value of it was to Hargreaves.
People have their egos. People love to show off, to go down the pub and tell everyone how wonderful they are. Mountaineering has far too many variables, too many unknowns that you have zero control over, to make entering 'the death zone' a good idea. *And if you have dependents, you should probably seek psychiatric help before considering the biggest, baddest, mountains.*
@@Neil_MALTHUS I agree Neil. Nature gives plenty of warning of what they're likely to face. Challenging her is arrogant, not a good idea.
@@Neil_MALTHUS Right ? Met a gal a few years ago whose mountaineer husband died climbing. I'm sure she had her moments while grieving although at the time we spoke she accepted he died doing what he loved. Hmm, why he risked leaving his wife and two young children to fend for themselves ?
RIP Bruce Grant.
Just before he left for K2, I was chatting to him on the paraglider landing field below Skyline gondola in Queenstown, where we had both just landed. I asked him what he would do when he got back from K2, and he said, "I don't know". And it was at that time I knew he would not return from the mountain. I knew Bruce would not be deterred from summitting, and that he'd take his chances on the descent. On the day he died, I experienced a very strange event. I was sitting in my lounge, very early in the morning. I suddenly felt like I was falling backwards - just like experiencing a full stall in a paraglider. The falling feeling lasted maybe 5 seconds, and then it stopped. Then I shivered uncontrollably for about 10 seconds, before the feeling dissipated. I had no idea why I felt this.
Later in the morning, in the changing room at the Coronet Peak Ski School, Nick Grant (also RIP due to cancer) arrived, and looked awful. I asked him what was up, and he said Bruce was missing on K2. And it was at that moment I knew he was gone. To this day, I've never experienced anything like what happened the day Bruce died, and I have no explanation for it. Bruce and I were work colleagues, but we were not close friends. Just coincidence, I reckon.
Subsequently, a brass sculpture of a hand holding an ice axe was installed at hole 8 of the Queenstown Gardens Disc Golf Course to commemorate him. And the legend, "I hold the heights. I own the dreams I won." appears on the sculpture. We renamed the hole "Visiting Bruce" in his honour.
The stories of guys doing this stuff in the 40s-50s and 60s with nothing compared to today, and doing it on almost a year long trek, it's nuts
I've read K2 is harder than Everest. Really the hardest of them all to summit
Not even close
K2 is harder from weather and technicality alone as the slopes are steeper and require more climbing. Everest also has a better support system with fully installed (ropes/ladders) and packed down paths, camps, accommodations in general and rescue team. It's easy to hike to Everest, but the same can't be said about K2 as it is remote and hard to access. Everest had been climber over 7500 times, including by people who are not that knowledgeable about mountaineering because you can be "carried" up by a support team. Comparatively, K2 has less than 400 summits (as of 2021, there were summits in 2022 but I didn't count them). However K2 is not the deadliest / most dangerous to climb, this title belongs to Annapurna 1 and Nanga Parbat which have a higher mortality rate than K2. Each have their own challenges and you can die on any mountain. The Alps have a much lower altitude (with Mount Blanc being the tallest at 4808,73m) but people die every year from different accident. This summer 11 people died when a serac collapsed on the Marmolada Glacier in Italy. That's why people are so critical of "tourism mountaineer" because in case of emergency, these people can't help themselves, let alone the people climbing with them, and that's deadly.
There are more difficult mountains to climb than K2.
@@TheUglySlug666 you've no idea what you're talking about
@@maddyx3711 Ever heard of Gasherbrum IV? Masherbrum? Baintha Brakk? Latok? Annapurna II? Annapurna III? Annapurna Fang? Dhaulagiri IV? Menlungtse? All of these mountains are more difficult to climb than K2, and there are many more that I haven’t mentioned. I don’t think YOU have any idea what you’re talking about.
In 1995 I went on a double date where we watched the film “K2” starring Michael Biehn. My date, as well, was a horrifying disaster. I’m glad this in not a video about that evening.
Yes, as of the 2022 late summer Karakoram climbing season, there are now Mt. Everest-esque, face-to-ass, Conga-Lines made up of scores of climbers, all tied in to the same, single fixed rope, through the Bottleneck under the Serac!
Accident waiting to happen
Fricking crazy
@@masonmunkey6136 Yep, it's inevitable.
If you have a family I don't understand why you'd climb a mountain with a 1 in 4 fatality rate
Narcissism and an ego greater than the mountain.
That's why.
Because you're selfish and a loser. The bs mental gymnastics she had to do to justify climbing one of the most dangerous mountains in the world having 2 young kids. With that type of thinking, they're better off without her.
If you’ve got good life insurance then 🤷♀️
That's only of those who summit.
But imagine getting to the top and then knowing that you have only a 75% of chance of making it back down.
Untamed ego?
There is an extremely hard route on k2 called the magic line that is hard to find information about. It was coined by rienholt Messner who attempted it many times but never completed it I believe
There's a good doc following a Spanish/Catalan group going up the magic line. Check it out
ua-cam.com/video/BMxkv_3GcBc/v-deo.html
You have documentary about spanish team who tried the magic line in 2004.. Manuel del a mata died there trying to reach the summit..
Also Chris Bonington i think tried in end of 70s, or beginning of 80s, and had one of his friends die there too..
If Messner can't do it , no one can
@@taylorg8509 correct
Bs. A polish team summited the magic line in the 80's and Jordi Corominas repeated it in 2004.
I’ve been watching everything I can get my hands on about Everest and now I’m turning my attention to K-2
I’ve already learned that that Serac above the bottleneck should be named the Widow Maker. I would consider myself to be a fool to go under that thing-- never in a million year unless hypothetically my life depended on it --“ Never”
K2 much more intetesting i think
She died then years later on her genius son also received a Darwin Award on K2 also..
I always wonder what sort of mother leave s her three small children to go flirt with death? Parents have responsibilities to their children and yes that goes for fathers too
You seem to know what you are talking about when you invoke the Darwin award. Maybe you are the biggest recipient after all.
@@12345fowler Maybe you should take a long walk into the death zone are you think its oh so sensible?
She was the only professional woman climber at the time, had successfully summoned Everest without oxygen, the first woman to do so, and had been the first person to climb the north faces of the 6 highest mountains in the Alps. Her husband took good care of her children and are proud of her achievements
@@devondetroit2529
Yesss a 20 min video! Perfect to keep me company as I do some plant chores. Thanks a lot morbid! Great work 💙
I am at k2 but now a have come to nanga perbet and malka perbet and these mountains are so fkn intimidating its unbelievable and how tall they are. This entire region near malka perbet run away before winter comes
I bet it's probably weed.
anybody with money can start turbo sending these mountains. Nobody is stopping you from taking degenerate risks, and with luck, you will build up a nice resume. I'm glad their families didn't risk other lives to recover their bodies though, props to that
Yeah and pointless for k2 it's so steep that bodies are a mangled mess with missing parts if ever found.
I have literally never missed one of these videos! They are awesome keep it up
If yall like manga and anime, there's a manga called Kokou No Hito that's about mountain climbing. At the end, the main character attempts a climb of K2's east face. Haven't finished it yet, so dunno how it ends. It's a great series, though.
It seems mountain climbing weeds out it's participants on a regular basis.
Insanity on another level.
🗻Love your videos!!! Also wanted to say thank you for showing pics & r.i.p. at the end!! Thats nice to show respect to the fallen🙏💯😞🗻
K2's motto= I'm going to make you earn it.
"And even if you do earn it I might take it away just because"
One of my instructors and a big time mentor when it came to technical scuba diving + full cave, expedition side and no mount cave, mixed gas through hypoxic (ETC), and my true love, DEEP (real) wrecks... He looked me dead in my eyes when I crossed over to the deep technical diving and said: "Dying is easy... The wreckage you leave behind for those who love / care about you, will be excruciating for them".. I never forgot that.. This woman left 2 beautiful youngins behind.. For WHAT??? To say you submitted K2? Or, Everest??? I hope at least some people pay attention to these cautionary tales.. IF you have no responsibilities or dependants, run with it... You should try Proxy Wingsuiting too.. Almost certainly a better rush!
Not sure how "Adults" with dependent children can put themselves in harms way like that, to me just crazy. Is it 1 in 4 or 5 that die summiting KII? Very little control over it either, it does not seem to matter how good you are at climbing.
it's 1 in 4
@@GGMU_GJW9 Thankyou, Crazy crazy odds. Think I will stick with my Great White Shark free wrestling.
" little control over it " no shit sherlock. if its easy then everybody can do it
@@TheMaulam12345 Exactly, 25% chance of getting killed, If you have dependent children then there is something weird about putting yourself in that scenario. Got more chance with a single spin of Russian roulette.
@@hexadecimal7300 their money, their life, so do whatever i dont care, anyway those children will be taken care better than u and me alot those are not ppl you need to worry so dont bother.
I've never climbed a mountain but despite being a bit smaller, k2 actually sounds quite a bit more difficult
It is thats why they summited Everest way before K2
In fact, you just need to look at attempts to summit versus casualties to truly grasp how brutal k2 is. If i remember correctly, death/attempt is above 20%. One person out of 5 doesn't come down.
I watched a documentary on K2 and it was nuts. From what I understood it may be a bit shorter but it is much harder terrain and weather and less people make it to the summit and more people die. My hats off to anybody that tries this and I hope that everybody that does return safely..... but even if you have all the experience required and all the equipment coming back is never guaranteed..... they're always those things that are out of your control and I am definitely not brave enough. Unless I was rescuing my kiddo there's no way you could get me on a mountain - not even for a million $ - shoot that isn't even that much n e more. 😆
@@WeldingQueen That’s a shame, I was just about to offer you $990,000, but now I see it’s insufficient so I’ve moved the funds elsewhere. Sorry!
@@Syclone0044 😂😂😂😂😂 yes still insufficient. 🤷🏼♀️ It is amazing the feats people accomplish, it blows my freaking mind. And I'm just trying to get through welding school thinking that's hard. 😆
Love your mountain stories, thank you for sharing more content.
love the music, love your drowsy monotone (but not boring) lazy deep voice im hooked.
Thank you for another great video. I had to look up what a "serac" is, but always appreciate learning new words and concepts.
what is it ?
@@wrosebrock it's a big vertical cliff of hanging ice from a glacier above
@@vinylbrake9473 ahhh thanks bruh
@@wrosebrock ice tower
I learned so much about mountaineering on the earth and the tragedy that goes with it. Rest in peace all who aren't here , there and now .
Now you have to learn about mountaineering on Jupiter.
A mountain climbers greatest ability is to know when to turn back/when to keep climbing. Even that may not matter! There's a good bit of luck that goes into the equation, no matter the situation.
The massive overhanging serac right above the bottleneck on K2 is as unpredictable as it gets in mountaineering. That one part can ruin your chances no matter where you happen to be on the mountain. At least, that's what I've gleaned from my research. 🍻
A very well done video, MM. may the Rest In Peace.
I’m going to scale Mount Shasta soon, and it’s only a pinch of salt at 14,000 ft 😅 I respect the hell out of these guys.
I think it is highly irresponsible for parents of minor children to go mountain climbing on K2 or Everest, or other risky mountains. Yes, nothing in life is risk-free, but some stuff is extraordinarily more risky than day to day activities. I am always saddened and sickened when parents of minor children are killed in these sorts of tragedies.
Parents are their own people too, with hopes, dreams, and goals they want to achieve. Yeah I get how it's selfish, but would you want a mother/father who feels defeated in life, and miserable because they're always wondering "what if..."? I'm sure having children is a huge factor to consider in mountaineering folks and their partners, but it's their choice ultimately.
@@Bridge_with_a_T There is a time and place for everything. The time for extremely risky behavior such as climbing Mount Everest is either 1) before one has children or 2) after one's children are grown. If someone wants to engage in extremely risky behavior throughout all their life, they should rethink their decision to have children.
Yes this is why I believe no one in the military should have children
@@Bridge_with_a_T and yet now those kids are gonna grow up constantly wondering what if? What if my parents didn't go climb some mountain instead fucking raised their kids?
@@JohnJohnson-nf6tn why is this? If that were the case I wouldn't have been in a line of Army veterans all of us who have fought in wars. I think its ultimately the persons choice its thier right but yes they should weigh in everything which I cant see that not happening I mean they do have to prep sometimes years in advance to take on these mountains so yea they have got alot to think about.
I feel like the reason alisons coat was separated from her body was because at the peak of altitude sickness, your blood becomes so thin that you get an illusionary effect of ‘over heating’. I feel that she took her jacket off, and began to descend improperly, causing a slip all in the same few moments of her over heating state. I’ve also heard that some people begin to walk as if they were simply going down some stairs during peak altitude sickness. No hands, no rope, just wondering down.
Very little actual mountaineering is happening on any of the 8000er peaks these days. Jumaring isn't mountaineering, so the only real mountaineers are the good folks who are installing the fixed lines.
Thank god this concerned only rich people.
Is their life less valuable?
Alison had two beautiful kids. I wonder how they feel about her decision to press on.
Well, I made a video about her son, Tom Ballard, that will give you a better insight into that if you want to know more about that!
@@MorbidMidnight cool thanks I’ll check it out. Edit: just watched your well put together video 😬😩 very sad.
You should do a vid on Gunther Messner
wow the guy at the bottom in purplish jacket has a magnificent bastard of a unibrow don't he?!!??!
I am so glad I'm not the only one that saw that and commented. Holy batshit, batman!
@@thebirdee55 lmao I did too but bit my tongue as to not speak ill of the dead
Alison Hargreaves left behind a husband and two kids. I saw a video about her son, Tom Ballard, who also became a mountaineer. Unfortunately, he also lost his life while trying to climb Nanga Parbat, the ninth highest mountain in the world.
That’s some family.
This is my favorite outdoors disaster channel. The voice and music create the best morbid ambiance.
I agree. This one is well done, clearly explaining events and conditions, even using sentences longer than 10 words at a time with good grammar. Some vids are amusing / challenging "Have a nice deh!" "He want to the toown thet deh." Others have bass + reverb that vibrate my desktop. Others just don't seem to bother with accuracy of events. Others have very badly broken word speed (or whatever that's called), words in constant collision with each other.
@@davesmith5656 Mispronunciations, nasal voices, high pitch voices, skipping some of the story... I run across these a lot in these videos. This one has some issues but at least his content is thorough.
Climbing is like Russian roulette. You cant predict the elements nor how each climb will effect one's body. To each their own.
Yeah, imma be on my couch.
100+ mph winds... no place to find shelrer..shelter... she was probably blown right off the mountain... man...
Sometimes you have to be humble before Nature.
I started watching mountaineering disaster videos last week while staying in an Armenian hotel with a view of Mt. Ararat. Like I told my wife who peered over at my phone displaying a photo of “green boots” -“what else was I supposed to do with the beautiful mountain right there?!?” 😒😜Anyways, it’s really tough: these people are hardwired to move forward and I can understand how it gets tough to be logical when so close to a successful summit. RIP to all the climbers who lost their lives.
After watching all these videos of mountaineering disasters from the comfort and safety of my bed inside my blanket at near sea level altitude, I have decided it is time for me to summit Everest, K2 and Annapurna, Nanga Parbat,... alone, without Oxygen and Sherpa. I will carry all my equipment myself. Wish me luck guys...
Great channel. I love to watch these videos of mountain climbing. I would never ever climb mountains, but I have so much respect for those who have the courage. The views are so beautiful. They know at anytime they could die. Nature is unpredictable. RIP everyone who lost their lives on K2. ❤🌻
it's hard to choose. i understand why some returned and some continued. i believe i would have turned back but my buddy would go on
A climber from my city fell off K2 350 meters from the summit and died there in 2008, there is a stone monument in his memory with tiny little colorful climbing rocks on it
Part of the 2008 tragedy? Where are you from, friend?
Keep ‘em coming!
Technically K2 is harder than any other 8000 meter peak. With advanced sections like the Bottleneck & the Chimney. There is something different about the weather there. It seems like it's very unpredictable. It's also like an expedition in itself to get there! By the time u get there u need to rest a couple days before u even start building acclimatization.
Nanga Parbat and Kangchenjunga are just as difficult.
@@TheUglySlug666 Nanga Parbat(Killer Mountain) and K2(Savage Mountain) are the most technically difficult 8k peaks.
Kangchenjunga & Annapurna are the peaks most prone to Avalanches but not as technically difficult.
@@maddyx3711 Obviously depends on route of ascent, but I’d actually now argue that Gasherbrum I, Nanga Parbat, Kangchenjunga, Makalu AND Dhaulagiri are just as difficult to climb.
@@TheUglySlug666 wow, Iv never heard anyone claim G1, Makalu, or Kangchenjunga were even in the same league as K2 in terms of technical difficulty. I would argue that Mt Everest is equal or harder than those mountains. In fact there are several times mountaineers have used Makalu as a warm up for Everest.
@@JayB2 Everest and K2 (now) are both much more commercialised peaks than those mentioned. Every year they get fixed with ropes.
I randomly stumbled upon your channel. love how you edit your content. Gained a sub for me. Great story that I wouldnt have heard of before
poor mountain being blamed for the stupidity of human
Oh sweet a 20 min vid. Gonna make a coffee and sit back and relax, love your content mate
Hargreaves's own son also died mountaineering on Nanga Parbat in 2019.
Contrasts with the level-headedness of the Hillarys
Loving the mountaineering stories!
I binged your entire channel in 2 days, I love your storying telling and the sound of your voice, looking forward to more amazing videos keep up the great work
I don't think there are a lot of English videos on the first Italian successful ascent and all it's controversy. it would be a good video
Any links? I'd love to learn more
Your voice does my life in...
Your monotonous and dark voice really fits these dark and disturbing topics, I really mean this
Excellent work as always. You should consider covering the 1971 Cairngorms disaster in Scotland.
I read somewhere that K2 its base is lower than everest..so everest is higher but K2 is a longer climb.
Yep n I'm at nanga perbet and malka perbet 4 hour from k2. Absolutely intimidating mountains when u see them . Lost my drone dji while making a video
As always excellent and detailed video.perhaps you should also make a 1986 season disaster which i think was even worse than this one.
Alison Hargraves story is a familiar one, when climbers take the attitude that I am going to make it or die trying, death is often the result. Hargraves was warned by the Pakistani rangers and fellow climber Rob Hall (who would himself suffer the same fate on Everest) that a late August summit attempt was foolish because the snow pack was unstable due to the summer temperatures as well as the serac above the bottleneck making avalanches likely, not to mention the unpredictable weather.
She ignored them and went anyway, and she paid with her life, and almost took her Sherpa team with her.
With more and more people attempting the big 8,000m peaks, most unprepared or unskilled, tragedies like this will become more frequent.
If you don't respect the mountain, it will kill you.
24 people have been to the moon, less than 400 have summited K2, over 550 people have been to space, over 4000 have summited Everest.
“Been to” is ambiguous. 12 people have set foot on the moon. Perhaps 24 have orbited the moon
Yet K2 isn’t the least summited member of the seven second summits. That goes to Mount Tyree, which had less than ten summits.
@@teodelfuego been to isnt ambiguous, drunkard
I finished Into Thin Air last week and now I’ve watched no less than 50 of these videos. The Himalaya are fascinating. Marco Sifretti’s story is the weirdest..
Riveting. The narrator had me on the edge of my seat. 😂😂
We lost people this day. Experienced people that can never be replaced nor should they be. We lost people that had friends and family that miss them. We lost people that spent a good bit of their life doing something they loved. We just lost people.
We lernt in school a little story, about a mountener, who wants to scale a mountain in Switzerland.
The weather is beautifull, only around the Peaks is there a soft, white cloud.
As he debates with himself, an old mountain farmer aproaches, and the climber asks his oppinion.
The old man looks at the mountain and sais, roughly translated: "the peak wears a hat, that's bad!"
According to the Story the climber survives, having listend to a Native who knows the weather.
I dont know if this Vers serves as a guideline, fakt is the weather changes rapidly in the mountains, and those who listen to reason are the survivers.
After all, Reinhold Messner made 4 starts to climbe the Matterhorn, because he did not like the weather. He is still alive to tell the tale!
If you want an idea for a interesting and touching docu, take the mountemers graveyard in Zermat. It gets me every time!
And the questbook of the last inn, all mounteners spent their last night at. They are all in it, dead or alive!
they loved the mountain, they achieved their dream to stay there...its sad
Yay a new vid!!! Love it 🖤♥️🖤