Trouble at t'Mill - Holywood Gates - 20 06 24
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- Опубліковано 19 жов 2024
- My regular viewers are familiar with the ongoing saga of Holywood Gates - the last traditional wheel-operated level crossing in Scotland. Let's get up-to-date.
The quick-witted among you will spot an error in the commentary right at the beginning - but I'm not going to say what it is - you tell me!
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I travelled to Leicester from Glasgow on the Thames/Clyde Express as a yoing boy several times in the 50's and 60's. I remember those journeys to this day with the steam locomotives thundering along the Carlisle and Settle route. There was one stop where the train entered the station and then left in the opposite direction, but I can't quite remember which station it was. When my father travlled to London on business he always took the Thames/Clyde from St.Enoch, rather than the faster route to Euston.
Leeds perhaps? I remember, years ago, travelling from St Pancras to Manchester - the ticket office at St Pancras really didn't want to sell me a ticket, insisting that it was faster to go from Euston. I had great difficulty in persuading them that I really wanted to go by the more scenic and interesting route whilst it was still available.
One of the first railway journey's I remember as a small child 1957 I think,green Scot Class Loco,not that I knew in those days. Super journey though,travelled from Glasgow St Enoch to London. Then Brighton to see the grandparents. Knew St Enoch well in those days,Largs,Gourock,Maybole, Ayr,all were destinations,though often we left from central.
I think Tim could be right. I do not remember it in steam days but the 70's diesel hauled reversed at Leeds City station.
Usual motive power for the Thames-Clyde Express in he 50s was Leeds Holbeck "Royal Scot" from Glasgow St Enoch to Leeds City where reversal took place. Onward to St Pancras behind a Holbeck or Kentish Town "Jubilee" often piloted by a 2P 4-4-0.
Great catch. I saw the unit passing Menock on its way down but didn't manage to snap a shot of it so thanks for uploading the video. As for the crossing I really do hope they invest in keeping it in its original condition rather than updating it. It's a great little crossing as if time stood still.
Thank you. Whenever I film there it takes me straight back to my childhood days when quiet rural stations complete with station master, booking clerk, porter and signalman were the norm, when many station waiting rooms boasted a coal fire and one waited eagerly for the approaching tank engine hauling a string of non-corridor compartment coaches to arrive. Travel had a certain feel to it in those days which has, sadly, gone completely today.
An early solstice apparently! Id noticed the cancellation so didn't venture out for videos.
Look out for Tornado's postponed charters too
Yes - I'd forgotten that this is a leap year!
I had planned on filming the Blue Pullman but I'd have needed to be on the 04.57 out of Dumfries and wouldn't have got home until after midnight - a bit much at my age even if I'd included a visit to La'al Ratty in between the Pullman visits.
Another complicated day tomorrow!
I bet the signallers are fed up of these gates. I bet the cranks are so worn and causing something to jam up. Seems the signalman had an idea what to do. It made a good video though. Six WC coaches are at KWVR diesel gala. I rode on them today 21/06/2024. I think because they have air brakes so can run with the class 69 or dual braked locomotives.
You are getting about these days!
Mind you, I'll be doing the same tomorrow - two charters at Carlisle and, weather permitting, some more aerial filming along the Cumbrian coast.
@@schoolshorts Yes Another day on Worth Valley tomorrow and someone said East Lancs gala next week. I will check on that. Carlisle and along the coast sounds a good day for you too
Wouldn't take much get the gates properly sorted. Good to see an engineering train on that line and yes did spot the error.👍
Well done David! Caught me out, obviously.
There’s plenty of people in the railway ‘heritage’ sector that would have those gates sorted in no time. I expect however that NR wouldn’t go down that route as for them it would be akin to an admission of defeat.
NICE BIT OF CHAOS. cant beat it. CHEERS
- - not sure that the signalman would agree with you!
I kind of hope that the gates are never completely fixed. They entertain us as they are.
Don't they just!!!
This is what happens when they skimp on maintenance. Those gates probably worked fine right up until the cut backs began to bite. No greasing or oiling of the mechanisms etc.
They were built to last if maintained!
Looks like the gate locks are broken, so gates not secure, the unit that passed did not look like it had been cautioned either, going at that speed, the gates in that condition should be chained up and padlcoked for each train, hopefully the local Manager will not see the video !
The engineers are well aware of the situation. For some months a 20 mph speed limit was imposed on all southbound trains but that has now been lifted so, presumably, the authorities are satisfied that the crossing is safe despite the slightly iffy appearance.
Further north the day is shorter... that's how it usually works.
- - in winter perhaps - - certainly not in summer.
Network Rail have not got a CLUE how to maintain them or get a decent engineering company in to make some new bits. The stops don't work when the gates are closed and the mechanism has SO much wear in it it is only a matter of time. They did the same with Broughty Ferry a few years ago.
The whole route was supposed to have been upgraded - modernised and fully automated - in 2023. As a film-maker I much prefer the old ways but - as you say - it's only a matter of time.
looks like they need some WD40 Tim
- - and a great deal of it!!!
What’s the chances of you getting permission to film inside Holywood signal box? Would you be able to get permission? 🏴🚂
Don't know - must give it some thought.
Micky Mouse gates, it’s time someone sorted these out, imagine if they didn’t open when the train was coming and someone was crossing, in this time of rockets to the moon technology you would think the simple operation of some gates was within British Rails brain power.
Aah - - but there's money available for rocket technology!
The signalman will never, obviously, free up the signals to allow a train to pass until the gates are securely shut to road traffic - zero risk of an accident.