The Real Reason Why Akai Haato Decided To Become HAACHAMA...

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  • Опубліковано 27 сер 2024
  • 【 Akai Haato / HAACHAMA / hololive 】
    Original Stream: • 【HoloCure】新キャラ 欲しい!!今日...
    HAACHAMA Channel: / @akaihaato
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  • @ToripuroM
    @ToripuroM Рік тому +843

    I love how she deeply think and calculates about the circumstances if she suddenly change a content, but no matter what content she'll make I'm sure she can capture the hearts of many people because of her sheer determination and willingness.

    • @ffurtado97
      @ffurtado97 Рік тому +32

      i mean... she ate a spider didn't she? that alone demands enormous determination

    • @Sweld549
      @Sweld549 Рік тому +15

      A wise weather man once said you can reasonably expect about five years (give or take) of relevancy as a streamer/content creator before you start to lose steam. Assuming you don’t change anything up in that time, even a fairly popular streamer will eventually drop off and start hemorrhaging views.
      Which seems like a no-brainer in retrospect, but the fact she’s both aware of the need to keep things fresh, and willing to actively branch out from the norm to do so, shows a genuine level of savviness on her part. More than a few streamers have ignored the need to innovate to their detriment over the years.

    • @barsni4779
      @barsni4779 Рік тому +6

      I wouldn't be sure about deep calculations as Haachama is more of an improv kind of girl.

    • @ToripuroM
      @ToripuroM Рік тому +3

      @@Sweld549 ​ ​ Your use of words kinda hurts my brain but I understand what you meant, and yeah that's one of the reasons why I love Akai Haato. Her determination and willingness to stream and give content no matter what is one of her greatest feats.

    • @raisofahri5797
      @raisofahri5797 Рік тому

      ​@@barsni4779 most of her ideas is from improve

  • @giadatthai5790
    @giadatthai5790 Рік тому +477

    Such a deep speech, Sasuga Hachama.

    • @dekkeroid2962
      @dekkeroid2962 Рік тому +17

      Hacchama been getting too seriously lately
      At this rate see will become baachama

  • @justinross9833
    @justinross9833 Рік тому +248

    She’s prolly one of the most thoughtful girls in Hololive as far as I observed. Miko and Haachama surprisingly has a lot in common when it comes to caring and supporting the other girls in their own quirky way and it just added to their strength as idols imo.

  • @Noobie2k7
    @Noobie2k7 Рік тому +65

    What I personally find so interesting about Haato/Haachama is how she managed to incorporate an entire lore and storyline into and surrounding her streams. Something I don't think has really ever been done since. Reading her vtuber wiki is like reading the synopsis to an actual anime series.
    Almost every other vtuber had a 'lore' but then doesn't really do anything with it after. Akai Haato on the other hand has had multiple character arcs.

    • @astuteanansi4935
      @astuteanansi4935 Рік тому +23

      The best part is that her character has nothing to do with her "intended" lore of being nothing more than a tsundere schoolgirl. Her struggles with her alternate personality which may or may not be her subconscious trying to recreate her dead sister are entirely her own invention.
      So unlike other vtubers who have lore and don't use it, Haachama had no lore so she damn well *made some*

    • @darkevilazn
      @darkevilazn Рік тому +2

      That is indeed true. The only other member who plays into creating lore is Ame, but Haachama just goes plus ultra.

  • @oujimandias6485
    @oujimandias6485 Рік тому +264

    HAACHAMA has reached milestone after milestone even if it isn't YAGOO's expected seiso route. Her, along with Coco broke the internet and I'm grateful for it as a listener back in 2020 until this day.

    • @purebaldness
      @purebaldness Рік тому +2

      @@mercenary128 was it? I got into it a couple of months before Gen 5 debuted

    • @pokemonwilliams2176
      @pokemonwilliams2176 Рік тому +9

      @@purebaldness 2020 was when EN debuted and boy it changed za warudo

    • @purebaldness
      @purebaldness Рік тому +5

      @@pokemonwilliams2176 I know, I watched it happen. Still, I can't help but feel that I missed out not getting into Hololive in 2018-2019

    • @purebaldness
      @purebaldness Рік тому +3

      @@mercenary128 I can believe it.
      Seems like Gen 3 and 4 really shook things up

    • @TheK1t3
      @TheK1t3 Рік тому +1

      That's true. They brought in so many overseas viewers with their viral clips.

  • @CSLucasEpic
    @CSLucasEpic Рік тому +828

    Personally, I think that having the "Pure Idol" part is already well covered by Sora. There aren't enough hours in a day for anyone to watch everyone in Hololive all the time, so I think that Haachama had the best idea, everyone should try to target different fan demographics. If Hololive were to have just 50 copies of Sora it would have failed, or it would have been successful just not as successful as it is now.

    • @DoozyyTV
      @DoozyyTV Рік тому +35

      The cute, pure, idol, gf experience kind will always be popular

    • @argnator
      @argnator Рік тому +90

      They ended up taking a similar route to, of all things, AKB48. When it was made, they went after all the girls who failed out of more popular idol group auditions because they weren't "idol enough", firstly to train and mentor them, but secondly to lean into and exploit their differences as unique selling points. AKB is just Idols for the sake of Idols now but in the early days they excelled off of having many different faces, acts, personalities, and Characters so much so that when they finally did get an idol-like girl she was lampooned for it.

    • @Archedgar
      @Archedgar Рік тому +48

      @@DoozyyTV GFE is a crutch though. It's bad and actively stifles success.
      Coco never did GFE and she was a smash hit. Kson DOES do GFE and she's a big downgrade from Coco thus not as successful. Pekora also never does GFE and she's doing extremely well too.

    • @Kaimine08
      @Kaimine08 Рік тому +35

      I would say there's several "Seiso" like talents in Hololive and...they're not exactly pulling huge numbers. I like to think Haato picked Haachama for various reasons, but I'm sure one of them was an ease of transition from tsundere seiso like to chaotic without it looking like Haato was selling out to chase another popularity idea.
      Regardlses, we all know whether it be Haachama or Haato, deep down, the person playing her is quite a sweetheart so I'm just hoping she's having a lot of fun.

    • @Godoflegos
      @Godoflegos Рік тому +29

      It kinda sucks to pin that on Sora tho. You can tell she gets pretty exhausted with that expectation of her.

  • @MoleculeXmolecule
    @MoleculeXmolecule Рік тому +161

    I've always seen Haachama as savvy businesswoman. She was always keeping things fresh. It's interesting how she is Coco's oshi, which is another woman who also had that same vision.

    • @DoozyyTV
      @DoozyyTV Рік тому +2

      I thought Luna was Coco's oshi

    • @Archedgar
      @Archedgar Рік тому +32

      @@DoozyyTV I never heard Coco say that. Also Luna was 4th gen like Coco.
      Coco explicitly said she admired Haachama/Akai Haato, who she viewed as a genius, and originally wanted to be like her.

    • @scalien225
      @scalien225 Рік тому +20

      Haato is an author using herself as a character. I noticed this when she was talking to a superchatter who asked her about the #freehaato events. Her response started with, 'oh, the horror arc?'
      She really does think of content differently.

    • @usakenvi
      @usakenvi Рік тому +12

      @@scalien225 yeah, she is not afraid of breaking the fourth wall or talk about her personal life. i guess thats the part that Coco admired from her too. mustve been the influence of living overseas. both of them are similar in that respect

  • @CrumbMuffins
    @CrumbMuffins Рік тому +111

    I feel like Yagoo is savy enough to realize that his Yagoo persona has somehow become a key part of Hololive’s success and thus makes sure his interactions with the talents is of him being happy go lucky.
    But in the 5 year anniversary retrospective, he mentioned how much he pushed the team to make sure certain deadlines were hit. He seems to be a very stern leader to the regular staff members, but those times he pushed the team were very pivotal points in Hololive history.

    • @andrehashimoto8056
      @andrehashimoto8056 Рік тому +40

      As a 43-48 year old Owner of a Business, he is very well in the age average of SUCCESFUL BUSINESS OWNERS in Japan's statistics, he has the experience and visibly so the necessary skills to know when to focus and have staff focus. Tbh Yagoo is one of very few Company Owners that you can truly praise for how he manages his Business.

  • @zeroconduction
    @zeroconduction Рік тому +123

    It really depends on what kind of audience she wants. Both styles can work, which she's proven. Going more towards the seiso idol side is going to appeal more to her native audience again, while the entertainment side appeals more to the overseas audience. Really what's important is that she enjoys and feels good about what she's doing. She'll be successful either way with her talent.

  • @KeterHirameki
    @KeterHirameki Рік тому +42

    Haachama deserves a lot of credit for the popularity of Hololive, she would've definitely grown a lot more if wasn't for the West Taiwan incident.

  • @trstmeimadctr
    @trstmeimadctr Рік тому +77

    This video made me realize Haachama might actually be one of the most intelligent members of Hololive, and we're all just pawns on her chessboard lol
    Also just ask yourself: how scary could a guy whose dream is to start an anime idol girl company actually be? It's already a miracle that he can function as an adult in normal society, let alone run a huge company lmao

    • @FukuroChannel
      @FukuroChannel Рік тому +14

      You're thinking about the Yagoo the meme. He wasn't always free material. He was the guy behind the small VR startup that became the Cover Corp we know today. He may not be the most charismatic interviewee, and if I were him I'd be smiling a lot now too, but for all the Cover employees we never get to hear from, there's stuff we just don't know.

    • @darkevilazn
      @darkevilazn Рік тому +1

      @@FukuroChannel From what I know, in an entertainment company, you usually treat the staff different from the talent. Its obvious as to which one is better (unless you are a black entertainment company, in which you exploit talent more than staff).

    • @jason__lai
      @jason__lai Рік тому +7

      Coco mentioned it a long time ago, but she regards Haachama as an extremely clever person, and it shows in all her content creativity.

  • @danielnam9026
    @danielnam9026 Рік тому +241

    HAACHAMA isn't the idol we deserved but she's the idol we need... She's the strongest idol.

    • @air.internet5808
      @air.internet5808 Рік тому

      can you stop repeating this bullshit "sentence from movies" we deserved but we need. fukking bot

  • @Gavriel01
    @Gavriel01 Рік тому +25

    Watching her reinvent herself is one of her main charms. The horror arc was definitely my favorite, but I'm looking forward to seeing what she comes up with next.

    • @hieioni3354
      @hieioni3354 Рік тому +1

      The horror arc is her playing horror games, right?

    • @tacoman6697
      @tacoman6697 Рік тому +1

      @@hieioni3354 Anakin: ...

  • @ToripuroM
    @ToripuroM Рік тому +25

    Akai Haato: "Cause, You know, I was a seiso character at first"
    Also Akai Haato's face: "1:00"

  • @DiabolicCrusher
    @DiabolicCrusher Рік тому +15

    Wouldn't exactly call myself a haaton but Haato was the reason i got pulled back into vtubers rabbit hole and into hololive specifically, still occasionally watching her streams when i have the time. Sure, most people see her as that girl posting weird shitposts/cooking/rap videos but she is incredibly talented and contributed a lot towards getting hololive to where it is now. Oh, also red heart slaps. Looking forward to witnessing what kind of wild shenanigans she'll pull in the future.

  • @yamiRic
    @yamiRic Рік тому +79

    Haachama.. there is no way Yagoo will get angry at you. That CEO even expressed his sadness when Kaichou came to his office and said that she wanted to graduate.
    Also Haachama is very smart. It is pure coincidence that HoloPro found the perfect formula to get popularity. At first, they aimed to be "seiso" but Niji is more popular because of the vast number of entertaining talents they had. Then in just pure lucky moment, HoloPro got some talents that dare to break the seiso barrier but still kept their "idol" status whenever they sing. HoloPro finally arrived at the right balance of being entertainer but still keep the wildness under control. Remember that Haachama is one of the reason on why Kaichou applied for Hololive.

  • @yodawgzgaming4416
    @yodawgzgaming4416 Рік тому +6

    Haachama puts out such an amazing range and variety of content, and almost all of it is hilarious, adorable, or genius

  • @MessedUpBrainspike
    @MessedUpBrainspike Рік тому +92

    I will support her whichever direction she takes. I genuinely hope she doesn't cancel the Haachama vibe entirely, though... I'm extremely fond of it. There is really only one original Queen of Chaos. Hoping to still see it at least from time to time.

    • @EndoftheBeginning17
      @EndoftheBeginning17 Рік тому +11

      Apparently she wants to get rid of the lewd stuff and the weird cooking. The cooking is great for notoriety but doesn't make for good long term content. The lewd stuff, again only works to a degree and it does poorly unless you specifically target that one specific demographic and there's too many lewd girls throughout the genertions.

    • @MessedUpBrainspike
      @MessedUpBrainspike Рік тому +11

      @@EndoftheBeginning17 Lewd stuff, I get. There's a whole ton of lewd vtubers now. Haachama cooking, though... it's such a big part of her charm :c

    • @WeatherRein
      @WeatherRein Рік тому +12

      @@MessedUpBrainspike She wants to geniunely get good at cooking tho. And that can make good content.
      Have you seen the dishes that Choco-sen can put out?

    • @usakenvi
      @usakenvi Рік тому +1

      @@WeatherRein funnily enough, haachama cooking did start back when she wanted to get better. but she realised cooking weird shit and rapping get more views.

    • @edgar2204
      @edgar2204 Рік тому

      @@WeatherRein Even everytime vtubers is cooking during livestream, the viewer is curious, her/their cooking is good or not, and the kitchen is chaos or not, thanks to Haachama lol

  • @spongebobfan78
    @spongebobfan78 Рік тому +11

    I always appreciate how Haachama recently reflects a lot on her stuff. She really does care a lot for viewers and friends.

  • @realNoMee
    @realNoMee Рік тому +10

    Haachama's really been letting it all out recently. Good for her. As much as people like to make jokes about "Yagoos Dream" being dead, on the contrary, he himself told Kaichou that everyone enjoying their jobs is his dream. I'm sure he's happy with how everyone has come into their own.

  • @MuddaAsian
    @MuddaAsian Рік тому +2

    I still remember the day she started saying HAACHAMACHAMA!! when us OG fans were used to "Oha-Rouge Akai Haato dayo", it was such a welcome change and it clearly was a success since Haachama is exponentially more popular now than before.

  • @maxplaying
    @maxplaying Рік тому +6

    UA-cam cut off Haachama's wings, she was at her peak and suddenly they throw several strikes at her, a pity that she had to delete many videos

    • @Suiseisexy
      @Suiseisexy Рік тому

      yeah cultural forgiveness for our overlords being so concerned with our feelings that they're not concerned with our feelings is scheduled for never. never let them live down that they are the new church marms and absolutely terrible at humanism, that they are in fact protoypical ur-fasicsts expressing the worst urges of humanity and that doing so though cryptic means does absolute nothing to obfuscate the depths of their CRINGE from the cognoscenti, a group they're utterly infuriated at no longer controlling the membership of in the post-internet world.
      the internet wasn't just for nerds and they'll never live that down either. i know you don't know what i'm talking about, but i need one of their robots to read it and build it into it's symbolic understanding, it will know.

  • @lonebriefcase
    @lonebriefcase Рік тому +8

    Honestly if you look at her content production through the years, she’s done some amazing things especially for her age like it’s honestly astounding

    • @thejamesonthestreet
      @thejamesonthestreet Рік тому

      Precisely! It's amazing how vast the imagination and creativity inside a girl who is barely in her 20s. She's going places.

  • @AndersHass
    @AndersHass Рік тому +10

    Keep being you Haachama / Akai Haato. I don't understand Japanese so I mostly just follow you through clips but I am happy even with the English focused talents that you still got your audience and happy about streaming and what not.

  • @DNXTMaster
    @DNXTMaster Рік тому +6

    for some reason it warms my heart seeing big names like DK KK in chat from time to time. they've been Haatons for so damn long and somehow have still stuck around. a shame I have only known her for 2 years

  • @zero1343
    @zero1343 Рік тому +7

    I just imagine Yagoo sitting there with a smile even when you have made a mistake as staff, could be seen as quite intimidating.
    And him replying to the news of the mistake with his classic "Sou desu ne"

    • @ero-senninsama1734
      @ero-senninsama1734 Рік тому +1

      I mean, im sure he is not like that at the office. And I dont like to think the shyness its just an act either. Id say that Yagoo is quite passionate for the product his company is giving and its something he would enjoy, its just that there is a difference between Fan Yagoo and Boss Motoaki Tanigo.
      With all the things that Cover Corp keeps pushing out and having a bussiness that relies on UA-cam which has shown to be very unstable, its safe to say that a strong and serious personality is needed to guide the team in such stormy seas.

  • @kuzumadesu
    @kuzumadesu Рік тому +14

    This made me respect Haachama even more than before. While I might be a bit late entering the rabbit hole, having learnt bit by bit of Hololive lore everyday, and especially Haachama's, I could have never imagined such ingenuity with the direction she took.

  • @wakamoon1910
    @wakamoon1910 Рік тому +9

    with regards to the merch pic, I think that's just yagoo being wary since its a body pillow, iirc I think there was a clip where A-chan or some other hololive member pointed out that yagoo was careful in holding body pillows to avoid aggravating the fans of said holo.

    • @kanzaki2672
      @kanzaki2672 Рік тому +13

      It's pure respect to his talents imo. Yagoo always held the dakimakura precisely at the part where it doesn't touch the illustration.

  • @-Raylight
    @-Raylight Рік тому +94

    Maybe YAGOO was really strict back then, but he becomes happier and has been smiling alot after the success xD
    I'm glad Haachana went outside her pure idol zone, and become as wild as Nijisanji 🤣
    Respect for the Haatons who always stick with her! *o7*

    • @Spiritwonder420
      @Spiritwonder420 Рік тому +28

      As long the group don't become as bad as niji

    • @PrayogiCristian
      @PrayogiCristian Рік тому +2

      Yeah. Even though, the more wild is come from Haachama herself and she was the first one become bridge of Overseas viewer before Kaichou.

    • @chris_t2020
      @chris_t2020 Рік тому +12

      He saw the success of Coco and started to realize that seiso was not the only way to attract people. Being an idol is outdated.

    • @NhatAnhPhamDr
      @NhatAnhPhamDr Рік тому +5

      It is called adapt. Maybe at first he use his casual work culture approach but he learned to change

    • @ranapriliaful
      @ranapriliaful Рік тому +1

      @@Spiritwonder420 what's happened with Niji?

  • @KoryuuCialce
    @KoryuuCialce Рік тому +6

    To be honest, I view Haato and Haachama like a symbol for Yin and Yang. Absolute Good and Absolute Evil as one entity. Both are her, and she is whom we all enjoy. As long as she is enjoying herself, and allow us viewers to enjoy time watching her, I think we can all support her in whatever role she decides to take on.

  • @zad_rasera
    @zad_rasera Рік тому +20

    She really has matured.

  • @E.G.1005
    @E.G.1005 Рік тому +3

    She really is one of the most creative people ever.

  • @bankkunarak
    @bankkunarak Рік тому +3

    genius haachama, she changed for the better growth when she see the market is saturated.
    she can now sense again she should change, who know what new direction haachama plan to go but we know it's gonna be awesome so i'm not worry about it.

  • @eh6577
    @eh6577 Рік тому

    This is the reason why Haachama deserves all the BIG RED HEARTS.

  • @armaggedon390
    @armaggedon390 Рік тому +1

    This is why she's the strongest idol. She might seem random and silly but she's actually very intelligent and thoughtful... and silly.

  • @NhatAnhPhamDr
    @NhatAnhPhamDr Рік тому +12

    Only hachama can speech without boundary like that 👍

  • @deifiedtitan
    @deifiedtitan Рік тому +1

    I think one of the key things about HL is that it maintains the idol aspect specifically because they’re almost subversive in that space. It’s what makes them more than usual VTubers, but also far more approachable for people that aren’t into idol culture.

  • @rdtripler5604
    @rdtripler5604 Рік тому +11

    When your beloved streamer is as wise as she is adorable.....

  • @apple_pines
    @apple_pines Рік тому

    I believe Haachama is one of the reasons why the idol-thing works so well these days. Back then, Hololive's chances to create idol-like content was not that often since there's only one concert a year and most concerts are birthday/anniversary live so with a smaller group, it's quite rare compared to today where you would actually have a hard time to stay updated with the concerts of every holomem.
    She basically took the halm for the craziness of Hololive and made it seem concentrated to a few of the talents thereby increasing the idolness of the other members due to comparison which would also increase the effect of her craziness in return. She had the balls to go deep into craziness that everyone was so immersed and invested into it. (btw. I got into the rabbit hole during this time so I still have ptsd to discord ringtone) With her taking the chaos by the horns, all kinds of viewers were pulled into hololive and people who got exposed to her chaos would then be attracted to a detox with the other members which was big brain. She also then pursued the peak of the chaos to the point that I have not yet seen anyone perform on the same level of craziness and chaos as she did during the haachamaxhaato arc that she mostly did on a livestream and not just on a video with all the edits. She did all of them live with the limited tools that she could do in a livestream. All I can say during that era is that even if they were not pleasant memories those are core memories for the people who were able to witness it.
    Sadly, it is true that because people were so invested in the haatoxhaachama arc, there been quite a huge fallout after she decided to steer to the other way for her content. I am not a haato but since the first thing I witnessed about her is the haatoxhaachama arc and was not able to witness the haato's sweet and cute era, I'm still having a hard time to balance her image of being crazy in my memories and the current sweet but naughty/playful child identity of hers. (plus her laugh also gives me ptsd because i've seen some stuff live while hearing that laugh)

  • @realQuestion
    @realQuestion Рік тому +4

    Yagoo actually thinks very highly of Haato and has praised her creativity
    Being a pure idol needn't be an "act," but rather something you try to be, even if most people could never actually achieve it. It is an ideal, and ideals have their place
    She should pursue whatever she finds fulfilling and entertaining at the time. The fans will support her :)

  • @matiaspereyra9392
    @matiaspereyra9392 Рік тому +2

    I really love every time we are reminded these people are workers for a company
    It's something I like seeing that i feel a lot of people forget

  • @Manas_190
    @Manas_190 Рік тому +2

    Haachama and Matsuri came to the same conclusion about the matter, Hololive probably won't be as it is today without their 'changes', not saying it definitely won't but them breaking the 'seiso' barrier is one of many factor Hololive get a boost in popularity.

  • @lunarsuperstar
    @lunarsuperstar Рік тому

    That's why she is smart, she can have Akai Haato for the idol things, and Haachama for the entertainer side of things

  • @teguhharyadi7741
    @teguhharyadi7741 Рік тому +7

    see how mature she is. she built different
    let's keep supporting her

    • @thejamesonthestreet
      @thejamesonthestreet Рік тому

      She's been through a lot for someone her age. She had couple of breakdowns, but luckily she persevere. While she still has this little sister vibe, you can see that she has grown compared to two years ago.

  • @smillerbee8115
    @smillerbee8115 Рік тому +2

    I like her current personality more because she is one of the most creative member in holo in term of content

  • @Buselmann
    @Buselmann Рік тому +3

    That's... actually really sweet

  • @moderndayvampire1469
    @moderndayvampire1469 Рік тому +1

    It reminds me that management recommended the newbies to look at Haachama for example (was it about stream content? being idol-like?) so they're probably fine with how she handle things.
    I won't worry much about Yagoo- if he can like Marine's content, he can like anything.

  • @yuuki_0112
    @yuuki_0112 Рік тому

    Haachama: They said Yagoo is pretty scary.
    What can you expect when your boss is smiling at you everyday.

  • @Naraku-no-Hana-WE
    @Naraku-no-Hana-WE Рік тому

    Makes sense to me. I honestly wonder how many have felt the same way but didn't have the courage to make the switch. Afterall vtubers are entertainers and actors, I'm sure some get the itch to switch up styles like Shirakami and Kurokami

  • @JohnDoe._.
    @JohnDoe._. Рік тому +1

    This right here is someone who know what she's doing by reading the atmosphere and learning from experience.

  • @bmanpura
    @bmanpura Рік тому

    This pure idol.
    Little did he know.

  • @borischan5252
    @borischan5252 Рік тому +2

    must protecc this insane girl

  • @cowuwu1
    @cowuwu1 Рік тому

    Its like akai haato saw a squirrel in her path in life and did a total U turn in the opposite direction

  • @patcoleman8606
    @patcoleman8606 Рік тому

    Haachama can be whoever she wants, she is still the strongest idol.

  • @NekRulez
    @NekRulez Рік тому +1

    Be the the seiso Akai or the Chaos god incarnate Haachama, we Haatons will always be there for and with her no matter wat kind of content she does. She isnt defined by her content, thats only part of her, we love her for who she is no matter wat she choose to be.

  • @憂苦と悲惨
    @憂苦と悲惨 Рік тому +1

    Whichever direction she goes, I'll be a fan ! ❤

  • @The_D0C70R
    @The_D0C70R Рік тому

    It's rare to hear Haachama talk so bluntly about her decision making process and why she does the things she does, so I really like this clip. It's a whole new perspective on Haachama.

  • @thejamesonthestreet
    @thejamesonthestreet Рік тому +1

    I said it before, but Haachama is a natural genius at content creation. Her imagination and creativity are virtually boundless.
    Regarding the Yagoo part, I think Haachama might overthinking it a bit, which is common for someone her age, but I doubt that Yagoo didnt like the direction which she took. After all, she did gain a lot of followers and ultimately making money.

  • @Nero6797
    @Nero6797 Рік тому +1

    my opinion on pure idol is i like the concept and im glad more people especialy westerners are getting in to it but pure idol fans can get really toxic which deterred me from ever getting in to idols until now so im grateful that haachama decided to change the formula which grately made idol culture for vtubers at lease much more open minded and friendly

  • @saphironkindris
    @saphironkindris Рік тому

    She's got a good business sense.

  • @anasazhari4498
    @anasazhari4498 Рік тому +1

    This is the most honest Haachama I've ever watched

  • @MegamanEXEv2
    @MegamanEXEv2 Рік тому +1

    In a weird way, her and Ame are cut from the same cloth - always thinking about the business and trying to stay innovative. It’s really impressive.

  • @ArcRay20
    @ArcRay20 Рік тому +1

    i was hoping for an end to the Yagoo story that it was just rumors and that he isnt actually "kind of scary", but that didnt happen😨
    now we'll never know! unless its mentioned after where the clip ends.

  • @lucasgaston1165
    @lucasgaston1165 Рік тому

    HACHAMA UNDERSTOOD EVERYTHING WELL

  • @squalleonkeneddyheart4191
    @squalleonkeneddyheart4191 Рік тому +38

    Gotta respect Haachama for Adapting base on the Times despite the consequence of losing your core audience, it's true that Nijisanji model works during early Days of Live2d Vtubers thanks to Thier Talents being the one popularized it, the business Model still works even now in the Japanese Normie sphere, however the Hardcore Vtuber Fanbase over there and a Large part of Overseas now seeks more Idol like presence thanks to Hololive

  • @maihasubando
    @maihasubando Рік тому +1

    She evolved from "playing" a character to "become" a character itself

  • @f.b.l.9813
    @f.b.l.9813 Рік тому +10

    back then during the Kizuna Ai and Mirai Akari days, most Vtubers where trying to be cutesy Idol girls and the unrestrained "entertainers" where fewer, nowadays I feel the Vtubing community is just FKING OVERSATURATED with crazy, chaotic vtubers, it's getting tiring really...

    • @lopsidedanxiety4190
      @lopsidedanxiety4190 Рік тому

      hololive is still quite idol like, even if they now are slightly different, all of their talents can at least somewhat do things idols should be able to do at a decently satisfactory level. However there are a lot of people capitalizing off the mainstream growth vtubers has gotten just to attract viewers with no intention at all of actually participating in the "idol culture", but i don't actually think it's bad there's a reason they're popular and it gives us more of a reason to appreciate the more idol like vtubers.

  • @zanagi
    @zanagi Рік тому +1

    Haachama playing on 5d chess

  • @Dazyhead
    @Dazyhead Рік тому

    That was really profound of hachaama. She is as forward thinking as coco was

  • @ManusiaKagakRusuh
    @ManusiaKagakRusuh Рік тому

    "As the destiny foretold, Comedy will prevail and the Seiso expire"
    - Haachama the Seeker of Yabe, probably

  • @Lee-fw5bd
    @Lee-fw5bd Рік тому

    She's doing what she thought was best and that's good. It also helps that she's good at her current style.
    On another note, I definitely think there's place for the whole idol thing. I'm not an idol fan exactly but I 100% see the appeal. Some of my biggest highs as a fan of anything is being there for the big idol moments from Sora, Miya Kimino, and Kizuna Ai. I think what really makes or breaks the character is if the idol themselves is passionate about it. If it's an act rather than an ideal or dream, it's bound to bite you in the butt. Especially with the culture around idols.

  • @SteadFast411
    @SteadFast411 Рік тому +2

    I'm not going to assume I know what goes on in the mind of Yagoo as a person (hell, if you want to get real ominous for a moment: one of the single most recurring traits across CEOs and major leaders in any industy is them being somewhat of a sociopath), but, as someone who has learnt several times over the years that employees under me have asked a similar question "does he dislike me for this or that?", the answer is most probably no, he doesn't dislike you.
    Yagoo, from everything I've seen of him, has the sense to see he knows far less about the trend of VTubing, and online content creation, compared to the talents he hires. That's why Hololive hires them. They hire people they feel can (or in Haachama's case - given her initial age - eventually can) carry the company in a way some middle-aged CEO simply cannot. Yagoo, like any good leader, sees what he can do with his skill-set, and sees where he and his team are lacking in others, and hires as such.
    There'll be many instances where staff step in, moreso for legal security (the copyright fiasco being the biggest case of this), but he wanted talents that could take this company forwards, and Haachama has been at the forefront of that endeavour several times over the years. Will he have been personally vibing with Haachama's very over-the-top comedic horror ARG arc? Probably not. Will he have been happy she's pushing Hololive forwards as creatively as possible? Hell yes.

  • @rambutan3655
    @rambutan3655 Рік тому

    No no nom she have a point. And it is actually scary. As rank and file, any great boss needs to pressure the team to work. Most likely that is the case.

  • @primecoconut4204
    @primecoconut4204 Рік тому +34

    without Haato giving birth to the Haachama persona when Hololive was small, we wouldnt have Coco who eventually paved way to HoloEN as well as FBK and many others for doing comedic content. She did her part and contributed to Hololive's popularity, it's possible Yagoo learned something from her during those times and now, he is loosening up a bit and interacting more with the members
    She was right, the times are changing again since Hololive is now more popular than ever garnering a huge audience now and the preference is now reverting back to the idol persona since the VTuber genre is already oversaturated with comedy, sassiness, YABE content and shitposting. Only time will tell when the audience will need her again, Im glad she is content with the fans who still stuck with her

    • @QRenjo
      @QRenjo Рік тому +5

      Not accurately true. Coco joined because she saw Akai Haato (ua-cam.com/video/FdJcm4eXZcg/v-deo.html), then because Coco joined, Haato switched her persona into Haachama (ua-cam.com/video/PCiT4QKSF9g/v-deo.html).

    • @hanakuso1999
      @hanakuso1999 Рік тому +9

      FBK has been shitposting since day 1. Matsuri too. Coco is not the sole reason for Hololives popularity.
      Miko saying the N word was one of the most influencial happening that made Hololive right now.

    • @dcresistance
      @dcresistance Рік тому

      Coco didn't have nearly as much influence on EN as people think she did. She wasn't even the one that helped Hololive explode early 2020

    • @QRenjo
      @QRenjo Рік тому

      @@dcresistance Now that's another inaccurate statement.
      ua-cam.com/video/PFw2B-qMnzk/v-deo.html (Depressed Nousagi - The VTuber That Pushed VTubing Worldwide - Kiryu Coco)

    • @sirempanada2468
      @sirempanada2468 Рік тому

      @@dcresistance that's true, the one that helped Hololive explode early 2020 was the virus 😂

  • @lionocyborg6030
    @lionocyborg6030 Рік тому +1

    1:15 Don’t worry, Haachama: It didn’t and never has. 「せいそ」はほんとくそくてばかですよね!

  • @alexanderjamesaustin
    @alexanderjamesaustin Рік тому

    She definately gets it

  • @gamerfluffyboi5111
    @gamerfluffyboi5111 Рік тому

    Now that i think about it, her being demonitized might be a strategic move to strech the boundaries of what can and could be. It worked perfectly well pushing more fans to be curious about hololive and providing the members the line on where to step on.

  • @StephenwithaPH
    @StephenwithaPH Рік тому

    Deep thought, with Akai Haato

  • @Adyen11234
    @Adyen11234 Рік тому

    Nobody ever said she wasn't a genius. But having a "company" with different directions of entertainment is just good business practice IMO. I appreciate Haachama for what she's done in the past, even if I'm not her fan directly.

  • @vkarvanzer4243
    @vkarvanzer4243 Рік тому

    Well, she did bring in tons of devoted fans alright

  • @alchedias7134
    @alchedias7134 Рік тому +11

    As a nijiholo enjoyer yeah i can feel it sometimes… when i want to have chaotic pill i wanna watch pomu enna pekora matsuri and so on, theres a time a want to watch chill stream like sora, ina, mel, fauna, watame and so on, it depends on the mood that can suit the day i guess.
    Just seiso isnt enough

  • @Satans_Adopted
    @Satans_Adopted Рік тому

    Maybe that was the period when Yagoo become Dark Yagoo, due to her dream being destroyed day by day...

  • @thedandguy189
    @thedandguy189 Рік тому +8

    Haachama rejected her purity so the others didn’t have to. Granted they did it anyway but that’s besides the point!

  • @ArchusKanzaki
    @ArchusKanzaki Рік тому +11

    Well, for better or worse, Hololive now is such a huge force of power that you do not really need to push yourself to create SHOCKING contents. In alot of ways, their content is now trending toward more and more mainstream media that everyone can watch. They're still allowed to do it if they want to, like Marine's latest MV, but they can now be abit more relaxed
    Also, I think other members have said it before but all of them do think that "Well, HAACHAMA is a phase....", others played along but Matsuri steadfastly refused to say Haachama. I do think that HAACHAMA really tried playing the shock factor way too hard, to the point that some of her breaks are because she cannot think of anything shocking, just like when she first did HAACHAMA LORE. In a way, its good that she can come to terms that she cannot always do shocking things, and she does not need to

  • @MetaTaro
    @MetaTaro Рік тому

    Haachama is a bottomless well of talent ❤️

  • @fatcat1250
    @fatcat1250 Рік тому

    Kinda hoping she keeps the whole duality going.

  • @Aaron-555
    @Aaron-555 Рік тому +1

    Haachama is awesome

  • @rektl2036
    @rektl2036 Рік тому

    not sure if the shift happened before or after Miko GTA streams, but it as definitely the right direction. NJSJ were getting a lot of traction, especially with their male streamers who went the entertainer route.
    This was true too for twitch, baring the ASMR/ lewd streams on twitch. IMO it was much better cause u dont get that many of those toxic idol chaser kinds (idols must be pure, etc etc). And it paved the way for overseas army to come in and enjoy as well.

  • @oldmemories7222
    @oldmemories7222 Рік тому +1

    true fan will support whichever direction she will takes

  • @ohshalyn
    @ohshalyn Рік тому

    Entertainment > Pureness Nijisanji summed up by Hololive's Hachama

  • @danielrezadilla9615
    @danielrezadilla9615 Рік тому +5

    to be fair we could see hachaama as the purest idol cause she is truly pure , purely crazy but still pure nonetheless

  • @Lorachzwan
    @Lorachzwan Рік тому

    Unfathomably based

  • @Pokemaster-wg9gx
    @Pokemaster-wg9gx Рік тому +2

    I love how she cited Nijisanji as an example of how the times demanded entertainment over pure idol schtick and then acted like thats become less so not more so especially with Nijisanji being bigger than ever now and Seiso fatigue still being a thing

  • @ShadowMoon878
    @ShadowMoon878 Рік тому

    Ngl, Haachama's chaotic nature would fit in very nicely within Nijisanji.

  • @okkcorp6713
    @okkcorp6713 Рік тому

    Yeah, look at Roboco and Aki

  • @rororororo6194
    @rororororo6194 Рік тому

    haachama,, is so cool,, ganbare

  • @supr3m3panda
    @supr3m3panda Рік тому

    Haachama’s being introspective, I’m scared.

  • @linkurosawa1711
    @linkurosawa1711 Рік тому +1

    I dont believe a word off it.
    She was given an ultimatum by management so she changed, this skin walker is not my Haachama.

  • @kissena3830
    @kissena3830 Рік тому

    Haachama/Akai Haato. I think she is fine idol. She doesn't really have a problem. But just some people have probpem with her.

  • @scxizm7828
    @scxizm7828 Рік тому

    Yeah there was a time when her gimmick was harvard baby or something. Look at how far she came