sorry if noob question. but why is it terrible if the roamer kills the smaller creep of purple buff? when the roamers don't get given exp anyway. is it just for the gold? i get why the fked up the 2nd time cause he stole the buff but he didn't gain any exp for either last hits.
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It's totally fine though, if the jungler does not depend on buff that much, it's totally okay. Because all of the buff's exp and gold will go to the jungler, even if the roamer steals it.
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as a guinevere main i'm so glad they changed his passive because now i can jump on him without being silenced and therefore i'm now able use my ult while he's still knocked up 😭
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Please keep spreading that so moonton doesn't nerf him, he's become basically balanced, if you let him do his thing he's dangerous but he's actually quite easy to deal with, saying this as a helcurt user
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Helcurt has finally and proudly earned his title of a “Creepy Crawler”. But sadly, they removed the silence effect and replaced it with terrifying effect. If you don’t aim your second skill, you’ll miss.
For me, what makes this new revamp scary is mainly his 1st skill and passive, its just that good! 1st is the fact that helcurts passive can make you detect enemies hiding in the bush. It is almost NEAR impossible for helcurt to be ambushed, because there might be a scenario where there are multiple bushes and you have to guess where enemies are hiding. I guess the nearest bush or the nearest parts of the bush could give you a hint where the enemies are hiding. You can know if you're spotted when you can see the purple bar below your hp drops, sound cue, or suddenly your movement speed increases. This could save you from heroes that could one shot you, mostly saber or eudora if you act fast enough to escape with your 1st skill. 2nd is that you want to utilize his enhanced 1st skill more often (basically when in his prowler state), you need the terrified stun effect most of the time as not only it helps you secure kills but also can help during ganks because of the aoe stun effect it has. In the prowler state also, the cooldown of his 1st skill reduces quite fast, so don't hesitate to use it to roam fast. You can also teleport FAST between bushes now because of how fast the cooldown is. lastly, Helcurt is ofcourse a hit and run so if you don't fully kill your target, you can just retreat, hide in the bushes or stay away from enemy sight, heal from his passive and strike again thanks to the fast cooldown of his 1st skill during prowler state. You don't want to be on the map most of the time as Helcurts passive is just that good now. He may have counters, not really OP cause there are some situations where he falls. (For me) He really needs dominate early game to secure the rest of the game. If he gets a bad start, it will be really really hard for him to pick back up again. As a helcurt main this does put a smile on my face :)
@@shahsparda these are all effort all content creators should be doing girl what. the bar is so low jfc, ai art takes no effort and is lifeless. reading comments is also another way to put in effort to CHANGE things from ur content and improve.
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*To those who are yet to know his New Passive:* His new passive, Shadow of Styx, allows him to enter Prowler State whenever he’s not seen by enemy heroes on the map. It allows him to gain movement speed + continuously regain health + 1st skill terrifies enemy heroes hit and quickly reduces its cooldown + 2nd Skill gains deadly stingers.
I could confirm that now his second skill deal less damage than before. Maybe to make him more balanced with a self recovery passive and auto stack for his second
Also betosky missing half of his Second skill for about 1/3 of the times he used it ALSO BETOSKY USE YOUR FIRST SKILL FOR MOBILITY AND JG CREEP DMG IT HURTS HOW INEFFICIENT IT IS also don't constantly use Ult cause it alerts them most the time I GANK i don't use it and they don't suspect a thing in their usually I get a kill with that tactic and sometimes early first blood because of it
14:48 bet not using ult to Def here is bad move in my opinion as it would deter Valir away which is a cc Gatot would go front but not use any skill same with Dyrroth The fact bet uses Ult to gank every time but not def is just not good in my opinion as his buff for me is less of a gank and more of a Deter away enemies which in MY OPINION is more effective (Also as I stated doesn't alert enemies when you gank then as well if you don't use ult)
15:33 finally he uses it for mobility... 15:38 GODDANM IT BETOSKY WHY FOR THE MINION USE 1ST SKILL AGAIN AND TURTLE NEVER SHOW YOURSELF IN MAP AS HELCURT goodness sakes info show him Dyr propably might use his Jg creep as bait if bet gets greedy
18:00 HIDE BETO OH MAY GOD HAII BETO YOU BAKA NUH HEAL WITH PASSIVE DON'T SHOWWWWWWWW WHYYYYYY THIS IS KILLING ME AS A HELCURT PLAYER THUS IS MAKING ME FEEL SHITTU
@@iRusty_69 Helcurt has 3 phases; Prowler, Spotted and Normal. Prowler Phase only triggers if Helcurt isn't seen in the minimap or by enemy heroes, minions or near turrets. During that phase he can recover HP per second, have additional movement speed, fast cooldown reduction on 1st skill and slowly reloads his 2nd skill. Spotted phase triggers when he is seen in the minimap or by enemy heroes, minions or near turrets, he he gets additional movement speed and attack speed for 4 seconds before going to the normal phase in which he has no buff from the previous 2 phases. You can tell if you're in Prowler Phase if your screen is slightly dark or black smoke on your Hero level Icon beside your HP Bar. They vanish if you're spotted.
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I played a Helcurt match yesterday and got a kda of 28-1-4, it was a mythic ranked match as well. I couldn't even believe myself that was a real ranked match.
Yes Beto.. @8.32 I used helcurt after revamp and yeah I noticed his 2nd skill deals little damage now.. I thought it was the items but after a few more tests, I confirmed that it was dealing less damage.. an indirect NERF I guess 😢
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@@schopenhauer5427is still five, his damage got reduced because of his attack speed boost passive when spotted, use his second skill to reduce enemy hp and than use basic attack to finish off.
From what I understand his 2nd skill is basically like basic attacks now that's why it works well with DHS, and I think it is also why it is "lacking" in damage unlike before. They definitely made Helcurt better in my opinion, thanks to his passive you won't need to go back to base as often and it basically tells you that someone is close to you when you are taking objectives "alone" as your passive will proc giving you attack speed and movement speed, the fast cd on his 1st skill allows it to be used in the early stages to aid in fast clearing his jungle + from what I have experimented on roam Helcurt is viable, he is sorta a better natalia in my opinion if you pair him with petrify and the support talent which gives 15% CD to battle spells.
helcurt is pretty good rn but his strongest state is outside jungle where you can abuse the hell out of his terrify from s1, in jungle he's still outshined by other meta junglers
1st skill prowler state makes him OP with that insane cd reduction and self heal and longer dash , with old natalia(exclamation mark) like bush check. I play him like the old nata hide bush spam 1st skill hide bush spam 1st skill. So OP, and with damage nerf of 2nd skill in exchange of auto stack 2nd skill still OP tho.
Comment Trivia, Skills and Guide of Hero in Video (for Beto mostly :/, it appears most of us here knows some stuff already) [Trivia] There was a secret nerf on his S2 to mitigate all of his revamp changes, it now takes longer for the animation to complete and it also deals lesser dmg (according to sum, idk much bout it since I usually use him as CC Roam). [Skills] Passive: Helcurt can enter 3 phases. 1st state activates when he cannot be seen on the enemy map or vision. During this state he gains Movement Speed, Regen, Stingers every few seconds, Terrify on S1 and faster CD on S1. 2nd state activates when he's spotted by enemies, he gains higher Movement Speed and Attack Speed while retaining the Terrify S1 (and maybe others idk) 3rd state is his "normal" phase. Game named it that even tho 1st is now his normal. S1: Teleports to a location dealing AoE dmg and slow. Enhanced: Terrify enemies hit. S2: Launches a stinger. More stingers can be stacked with basic attacks, upto 4 EXTRA stingers, total to *5* stingers. Enhanced: Passively gains a stinger every few seconds. Ult: Reduces vision for all enemies while gaining Vision and Movement Speed. No longer increase allies vision too. [Guide] 1. When you randomly exit your 1st state with no enemies in sight, it indicates enemies are in the bushes. Do be careful of Wards from skills as they can severely destroy his passive. 2. If you can't kill in One Shot, retreat to recover stingers and HP, then come back again. 3. Spells: Retribution, Execute or Petrify 4. Builds: DHS w/PEN Burst build or DHS w/HP regen boosters, this is troll build. 5. Since he already has all the benefits of Ult already on his passive, use Ult like a pseudo global support when you're far away from a gank by your teammates. It can still be used as your offense/defense. 6. Because of his slower S2 animation, slightly pre aim your S2 to hit better. Terrified enemies usually move alot depending on their movement speed so try to predict them. (basically, trying to hit a Terrified Ulted Zilong is a waste of time. Source: I'm the Zilong)
little fact on helcurt second skill, karina can absolutely ignore the damage of it just by using her first skill, i learn it the hard way on rank and thats so ridiculous, I hate seeing characters receive such abusive preferential treatment, and yes i'm still pissed about it.
@@itisme1427 Yeah my bad, i'm not a player of helcurt and didn't know that while playing in rank and got a really bad team + karina, i just got really frustrated and wrote this
@@itisme1427 But i mantain what i said, i'm a n old player and i have seen her glow up, tank build, mm build, mage, physical, true damage revamp, rework and now i know she is immune to helcurt 2nd skill... her, i think they cherish her a little bit to much in my opinion but that's just my opinion, i can be wrong.
Helcurt passive can check enemy on bush, just see if your passive proc to fast movements when the smoke goes on that means some enemy see you, and most of time they hide inside bush.
I was hoping to add a feature that would allow him to be not affected by CC, or if enemy uses a stun against you, he will be affected by the stun, especially the first 4 seconds after revealing yourself. I also hope that the ult will be made to remove the slowing effects, which makes the person run away after killing in team fight. also make the ult disappears more in the event of an attack, so that it does not appear as a sign to enemys
@Betosky no it's not Beto, just build trio penetration at cost of atk spd except the corrosion scythe + rgm for lifeline. DMG is still big, more better than before revamp
Moonton really wanted to return the assassin jungler, thats also the reason why they reduce the capability of most defensive items... they're tired seeing tank jungler for the longest time😅.
I remember a patch note that started this meta with a note saying something like "we want tanks to be able to jungle". Hope he gets fired from moonton cause that mindset is ridiculous.
He's extremely easy to counter, Helcurt depends on catching lone targets since he's got a narrow attack range, so as long as you stick with someone else he can't do much since they can just stop him with any cc skill now that his silencing effect is gone, also if you manage to not get one shotted it's pretty easy to counterattack
Beto you need to try him again and this time maximize the bush because his first skill cds faster when the enemy doesn’t see hc in their mini map… that’s how you can utilize his spam terrify effect
For old helcurt. His ult can be canceled by Lesley ult. When helcurt ult, lesley use ult near helcurt and will reveal the map again. Not sure about revamped helcurt though.
I'm a Ruby main and usually when we're taking the turtle I'm always trying to give vision at the enemy side and try to save my CC for their jgler. So we get the turtle 90% of the time, the rest is when they kill me or when i get cc-ed and can't cc their jgler in time :)
Yeah. Helcurt is pretty nasty right now. I had a game where no one banned him. Luckily the guy is still practicing with Helcurt. Dodged a bullet there 😅.
I like this helcurt become a roamer than jungler, the dmg is crazier with dire hit and its really my type because i usually pick an intense jungler gameplay from beginning like martis or fanny.
To sum it up, Revamped Helcurt is actually similar to Natalia, what makes him different than Natalia is his Jungling speed, that's why he's still prefered as a jungler. Although Roam or Midlane Helcurt is possible.
8:29 yes helcurt dmg actually deals lesser dmg now before revamp he literally one shots marksmens early to late but after revamp he canr one shot anymore maybe they nerfed his dmg to balance him
He's definitely more sustainable, and ganks more often. He also have his ult at his passive which supports the idea of ganking more often, which will result in a snowball game. His second skill definitely is not as scary, but its just fair since he got a massive buff in his passive. His ult is basically to chase and run, he already can gank without his ult. His first skill is good since he can use it more often with the prowler state. The terrify effect sometime can mess up your gank, since the enemy is constantantly moving so your second skill have a chance to not hit. Is he ban worthy? Yes and it depends, if you wanted to play a squishy hero, ban him or use a hero with a lot of cc, like valir and vexana. If your planning to use tanks or tank jungler i think its just find to ban another hero.
just a few minutes ago I was playing a match with cyclops and helcurt would always try to kill me and it looked like some purple roach just scampering towards me at high speed 😭😭 I didn't know he got buffed so much lol
He's generally better in my opinion. 2nd skill indeed deals less damage than before. I think it is to balance the face that Helcurt has become easier to use. I mean he has free extra movement speed and regen without buying any item He has a free bush checking now (spotted state triggers movement speed increase when seen by enemies) His stingers regen now without attacking His blink is now terrify effect, removing chance of enemies to dodgewithout relying on stuns
I swear everytime a Johnson will help you take a buff in the early game, 90% of the time they will (accidentally) steal it
Bad john
Bad johnson player
sorry if noob question. but why is it terrible if the roamer kills the smaller creep of purple buff? when the roamers don't get given exp anyway. is it just for the gold? i get why the fked up the 2nd time cause he stole the buff but he didn't gain any exp for either last hits.
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It's totally fine though, if the jungler does not depend on buff that much, it's totally okay. Because all of the buff's exp and gold will go to the jungler, even if the roamer steals it.
"Why did I do this? Why did she do that? Sometimes there are no answers" 🤣🤣🤣
They did helcurt justice with this revamp, I sorta miss his old passive but this is actually quite fine
Yeah I miss it to
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Funny enough he is countered by natalia now lol
@@namelesssturdy4676fr bro. it's soooo hard to fight nata
as a guinevere main i'm so glad they changed his passive because now i can jump on him without being silenced and therefore i'm now able use my ult while he's still knocked up 😭
Beto sometimes ignore that once Helcurt goes into the Spotted state, it means an enemy nearby is hiding and can see him
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Honestly helcurt ain’t truly overpowered to be ban every single match.🗣️
Tank jungler is more annoying than hc,
Helcurt isn't even that strong,so ez to counter
Please keep spreading that so moonton doesn't nerf him, he's become basically balanced, if you let him do his thing he's dangerous but he's actually quite easy to deal with, saying this as a helcurt user
Yeah, hc is like Natalia, it requires you to play hide and seek. Hc can only assassinate, not frontal fight.
Tip :
Helcurt's 1st skill is actually only 4-5 seconds long when he is in his passive state, so you can spam it to travel faster.
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Also the longest Blink skill
@@MiracleOfChaosNot really, Khufra takes that
@@Streohh I though that was dash
@@MiracleOfChaosdash=blink in the game
Helcurt has finally and proudly earned his title of a “Creepy Crawler”. But sadly, they removed the silence effect and replaced it with terrifying effect. If you don’t aim your second skill, you’ll miss.
Creepy cockroach 🪳 🤭
Silence is more than terrify cause when you we used 1st skill opponent have time to use their skills
@@MrX-po9qk but dont you need your ult to be active to use the silence? Last time I checked it has a really long cooldown
Please stop spreading misinformation, if you actually played helcurt, his terrify effect makes enemy move in a straight line
@@chent5463 I agree,, You really dont need to aim 2nd skill unless their are alot of low hp enemies.
5:30
Beto : I can probably save my retribution
Me: Their mage is missing
Their Mage: *Steals the turtle*
he was in spotted state too...
For me, what makes this new revamp scary is mainly his 1st skill and passive, its just that good!
1st is the fact that helcurts passive can make you detect enemies hiding in the bush. It is almost NEAR impossible for helcurt to be ambushed, because there might be a scenario where there are multiple bushes and you have to guess where enemies are hiding. I guess the nearest bush or the nearest parts of the bush could give you a hint where the enemies are hiding. You can know if you're spotted when you can see the purple bar below your hp drops, sound cue, or suddenly your movement speed increases. This could save you from heroes that could one shot you, mostly saber or eudora if you act fast enough to escape with your 1st skill.
2nd is that you want to utilize his enhanced 1st skill more often (basically when in his prowler state), you need the terrified stun effect most of the time as not only it helps you secure kills but also can help during ganks because of the aoe stun effect it has. In the prowler state also, the cooldown of his 1st skill reduces quite fast, so don't hesitate to use it to roam fast. You can also teleport FAST between bushes now because of how fast the cooldown is.
lastly, Helcurt is ofcourse a hit and run so if you don't fully kill your target, you can just retreat, hide in the bushes or stay away from enemy sight, heal from his passive and strike again thanks to the fast cooldown of his 1st skill during prowler state. You don't want to be on the map most of the time as Helcurts passive is just that good now.
He may have counters, not really OP cause there are some situations where he falls. (For me) He really needs dominate early game to secure the rest of the game. If he gets a bad start, it will be really really hard for him to pick back up again.
As a helcurt main this does put a smile on my face :)
Now I missed the comments talking about the ai thumbnails 😂😂
Shows that he actually read the comments. I'm amazed.
maybe only for now like how after the gojo video he gonna switch to ai... hope not...
@@shahsparda these are all effort all content creators should be doing girl what. the bar is so low jfc, ai art takes no effort and is lifeless. reading comments is also another way to put in effort to CHANGE things from ur content and improve.
What are thumbnails
What's wrong with that
People only cares what others do while they do more worse than betosky in real life. Betosky is famous that's why many people are jealous of his ai thumbnail as they can't be famous like betosky lol.. Pathetic watchers
*To those who are yet to know his New Passive:*
His new passive, Shadow of Styx, allows him to enter Prowler State whenever he’s not seen by enemy heroes on the map. It allows him to gain movement speed + continuously regain health + 1st skill terrifies enemy heroes hit and quickly reduces its cooldown + 2nd Skill gains deadly stingers.
I could confirm that now his second skill deal less damage than before. Maybe to make him more balanced with a self recovery passive and auto stack for his second
Also betosky missing half of his Second skill for about 1/3 of the times he used it ALSO BETOSKY USE YOUR FIRST SKILL FOR MOBILITY AND JG CREEP DMG IT HURTS HOW INEFFICIENT IT IS also don't constantly use Ult cause it alerts them most the time I GANK i don't use it and they don't suspect a thing in their usually I get a kill with that tactic and sometimes early first blood because of it
14:48 bet not using ult to Def here is bad move in my opinion as it would deter Valir away which is a cc Gatot would go front but not use any skill same with Dyrroth The fact bet uses Ult to gank every time but not def is just not good in my opinion as his buff for me is less of a gank and more of a Deter away enemies which in MY OPINION is more effective
(Also as I stated doesn't alert enemies when you gank then as well if you don't use ult)
15:33 finally he uses it for mobility...
15:38 GODDANM IT BETOSKY WHY FOR THE MINION USE 1ST SKILL AGAIN AND TURTLE NEVER SHOW YOURSELF IN MAP AS HELCURT goodness sakes info show him Dyr propably might use his Jg creep as bait if bet gets greedy
Wth
18:00 HIDE BETO OH MAY GOD HAII BETO YOU BAKA NUH HEAL WITH PASSIVE DON'T SHOWWWWWWWW
WHYYYYYY THIS IS KILLING ME AS A HELCURT PLAYER THUS IS MAKING ME FEEL SHITTU
Beto doesn't know everything about new helcurt passive that how he lost 2nd turtle 😂
Definitely I see him ignoring the passive effect when he got spotted way to much
Yes, His passive didn't work because of Vale.
How does his passive work?
New passive?
@@iRusty_69
Helcurt has 3 phases; Prowler, Spotted and Normal.
Prowler Phase only triggers if Helcurt isn't seen in the minimap or by enemy heroes, minions or near turrets. During that phase he can recover HP per second, have additional movement speed, fast cooldown reduction on 1st skill and slowly reloads his 2nd skill.
Spotted phase triggers when he is seen in the minimap or by enemy heroes, minions or near turrets, he he gets additional movement speed and attack speed for 4 seconds before going to the normal phase in which he has no buff from the previous 2 phases.
You can tell if you're in Prowler Phase if your screen is slightly dark or black smoke on your Hero level Icon beside your HP Bar. They vanish if you're spotted.
iwas just searching for betosky helcurt yesterday didnt expect you woud post it
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Honestly, for someone who is a newbie to the game, helcurt is already scary before the revamp and is just scarier to deal with now.
I played a Helcurt match yesterday and got a kda of 28-1-4, it was a mythic ranked match as well. I couldn't even believe myself that was a real ranked match.
Yes Beto.. @8.32 I used helcurt after revamp and yeah I noticed his 2nd skill deals little damage now.. I thought it was the items but after a few more tests, I confirmed that it was dealing less damage.. an indirect NERF I guess 😢
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Helcurt now has only 4 stingers, used to be 5, that's why
@@schopenhauer5427idk where you got your eyes from but maybe refund them
@@schopenhauer5427
???
he still have 5
@@schopenhauer5427is still five, his damage got reduced because of his attack speed boost passive when spotted, use his second skill to reduce enemy hp and than use basic attack to finish off.
Yes, Lesley's Ult still reveals Helcourt even during his Ult.
20:00
I knew what he planed. And I was so confused when you saied last hit the lord.🤣
Thnx beto. Really hope you will use helcurt more often
I always liked Helcurt play style and now after the revamp is my favorite
i like how he gives us advice while playing the game and showing it rather than saying it
Helcurt was already scary af. Giving him invisibility and speed boost just made him a terror.
Everytime such exciting content betosky just released, Im grabbing a food.
I was waiting for this video ❤
From what I understand his 2nd skill is basically like basic attacks now that's why it works well with DHS, and I think it is also why it is "lacking" in damage unlike before. They definitely made Helcurt better in my opinion, thanks to his passive you won't need to go back to base as often and it basically tells you that someone is close to you when you are taking objectives "alone" as your passive will proc giving you attack speed and movement speed, the fast cd on his 1st skill allows it to be used in the early stages to aid in fast clearing his jungle + from what I have experimented on roam Helcurt is viable, he is sorta a better natalia in my opinion if you pair him with petrify and the support talent which gives 15% CD to battle spells.
Excellent Thumbnail
"Why did I do This?" Too much like me LOL
THIS is what your thumbnails should be, this is sick.
Bro you have perfect knowledge about the game and you always got skillful team 👋🏼😗❣️
helcurt is pretty good rn but his strongest state is outside jungle where you can abuse the hell out of his terrify from s1, in jungle he's still outshined by other meta junglers
1st skill prowler state makes him OP with that insane cd reduction and self heal and longer dash , with old natalia(exclamation mark) like bush check. I play him like the old nata hide bush spam 1st skill hide bush spam 1st skill. So OP, and with damage nerf of 2nd skill in exchange of auto stack 2nd skill still OP tho.
🎶EL SEÑOR DE LA NOCHE!!!!🎶
Keep it up beto!
FINNALY BETOSKY ANSWER MY PRAYER I HAVE BEEN WAITING THIS VIDEO ABOUT HELCURT REVAMP!!!
Funny how he describes mistake as tragedy😂😂😂😂😂
yes yes yes, also predicted your ending move instead of lord good games love it
Realmente la voz de Beto embaraza a mis oídos, no puedo recordar cuantos videos me he visto en tan solo un día
This helcurt is looking sick and im glad you listened to comments abt thw thumbnail 😭 🙏 hoping this lasts sir
Comment Trivia, Skills and Guide of Hero in Video (for Beto mostly :/, it appears most of us here knows some stuff already)
[Trivia]
There was a secret nerf on his S2 to mitigate all of his revamp changes, it now takes longer for the animation to complete and it also deals lesser dmg (according to sum, idk much bout it since I usually use him as CC Roam).
[Skills]
Passive:
Helcurt can enter 3 phases.
1st state activates when he cannot be seen on the enemy map or vision. During this state he gains Movement Speed, Regen, Stingers every few seconds, Terrify on S1 and faster CD on S1.
2nd state activates when he's spotted by enemies, he gains higher Movement Speed and Attack Speed while retaining the Terrify S1 (and maybe others idk)
3rd state is his "normal" phase. Game named it that even tho 1st is now his normal.
S1:
Teleports to a location dealing AoE dmg and slow.
Enhanced: Terrify enemies hit.
S2:
Launches a stinger. More stingers can be stacked with basic attacks, upto 4 EXTRA stingers, total to *5* stingers.
Enhanced: Passively gains a stinger every few seconds.
Ult:
Reduces vision for all enemies while gaining Vision and Movement Speed. No longer increase allies vision too.
[Guide]
1. When you randomly exit your 1st state with no enemies in sight, it indicates enemies are in the bushes. Do be careful of Wards from skills as they can severely destroy his passive.
2. If you can't kill in One Shot, retreat to recover stingers and HP, then come back again.
3. Spells: Retribution, Execute or Petrify
4. Builds: DHS w/PEN Burst build or DHS w/HP regen boosters, this is troll build.
5. Since he already has all the benefits of Ult already on his passive, use Ult like a pseudo global support when you're far away from a gank by your teammates. It can still be used as your offense/defense.
6. Because of his slower S2 animation, slightly pre aim your S2 to hit better. Terrified enemies usually move alot depending on their movement speed so try to predict them.
(basically, trying to hit a Terrified Ulted Zilong is a waste of time. Source: I'm the Zilong)
2 games again in 1 video 😍😍😍 ~~happiness~~
He's pretty much like got balanced instead of nerf, you just have to pay attention to your passive when using him
I became a helcurt main in that update. 158 matches going strong with 87 winrete
I would assume they would reduce his 2nd skill damage i mean its pretty op now that you dont need to just hit to stack and with how fast it stack
little fact on helcurt second skill, karina can absolutely ignore the damage of it just by using her first skill, i learn it the hard way on rank and thats so ridiculous, I hate seeing characters receive such abusive preferential treatment, and yes i'm still pissed about it.
Helcurt's second skill is considered a basic attack, that's why Karina can ignore it.
Why preferential? If it's stated that karina's second skill ignores any basic attack and helcurt counts as basic attack so it just makes sense 🤷
@@itisme1427 Yeah my bad, i'm not a player of helcurt and didn't know that while playing in rank and got a really bad team + karina, i just got really frustrated and wrote this
@@itisme1427 But i mantain what i said, i'm a n old player and i have seen her glow up, tank build, mm build, mage, physical, true damage revamp, rework and now i know she is immune to helcurt 2nd skill... her, i think they cherish her a little bit to much in my opinion but that's just my opinion, i can be wrong.
@@J.H_. Me when a Hero that can counter a Hero, counters the Hero
I think Helcurt loses against Natalia Harder than against Karina
gave u the like for the ling throw in the end😂🤣
The best thing about the new helcurt is it allow player to actively learn fog of war.
OP assassin now
Try damage Ling next
Helcurt passive can check enemy on bush, just see if your passive proc to fast movements when the smoke goes on that means some enemy see you, and most of time they hide inside bush.
I was hoping to add a feature that would allow him to be not affected by CC, or if enemy uses a stun against you, he will be affected by the stun, especially the first 4 seconds after revealing yourself. I also hope that the ult will be made to remove the slowing effects, which makes the person run away after killing in team fight. also make the ult disappears more in the event of an attack, so that it does not appear as a sign to enemys
Helcurt main spotted.
@Betosky no it's not Beto, just build trio penetration at cost of atk spd except the corrosion scythe + rgm for lifeline. DMG is still big, more better than before revamp
Hes vey op, he can go in and out of combat while not needing to recall (his regen passive is very op in my opinion)
Moonton really wanted to return the assassin jungler, thats also the reason why they reduce the capability of most defensive items... they're tired seeing tank jungler for the longest time😅.
I remember a patch note that started this meta with a note saying something like "we want tanks to be able to jungle". Hope he gets fired from moonton cause that mindset is ridiculous.
I tried playing him once since he's not banned (somehow) and i got so much kills. I don't even play helcurt like i only have 6 matches with him
Helcurt is so ez to counter and not ban worthy
@@aadenng911counter heroes?
He's extremely easy to counter, Helcurt depends on catching lone targets since he's got a narrow attack range, so as long as you stick with someone else he can't do much since they can just stop him with any cc skill now that his silencing effect is gone, also if you manage to not get one shotted it's pretty easy to counterattack
His silence passive was so op they nerfed him if anything
11:09, Yep, He can also use Endless battle passive for 2nd skill already prove enough you can change Malefic roar for It.
imagine he still have his terrified passive it's gonna be crazy
Yes, confirm it's a stealth nerf on 2nd skill, I tried it before.
He is better now imo. But like you said beto. Patience is key in dominating as helcurt. 😉
8:33 same question when I played him after revamp
MY BOY HELCURT FINALLY GOT THE LOVE HE DESERVED!!
You know that helcurt can easily checking the bust without going in it
Try him for the roamer using dire hit, full pen build, and enjoy the backline carnage :D
He just became the slark of mobile legends. Basically the same passive and ultimate from dota
Beto you need to try him again and this time maximize the bush because his first skill cds faster when the enemy doesn’t see hc in their mini map… that’s how you can utilize his spam terrify effect
Why does Beto voice sound like AI?
True, his second skill damage is lower than before
For old helcurt. His ult can be canceled by Lesley ult. When helcurt ult, lesley use ult near helcurt and will reveal the map again. Not sure about revamped helcurt though.
New Helcurt is really fun to play. If you're good as Natalia roamer, you'll love roam Helcurt
15:15 yes you can definitely do that, but the timing is very precise - it does pay off when it happens tho
It's true ! Helcurt's 2nd skill feels got a bit nerf of damage.
Hi idoll
I'm a Ruby main and usually when we're taking the turtle I'm always trying to give vision at the enemy side and try to save my CC for their jgler. So we get the turtle 90% of the time, the rest is when they kill me or when i get cc-ed and can't cc their jgler in time :)
When will you play with terry bro? He's my favorite... In kof
Long awaited title for helcurt..'Scariest Assasin' has Finally Recognized!
I was a helcurt main and yup I can DEFINITELY CONFIRM his 2nd skill deals less damage
Playing new helcurt is like keeping the phone in dark mode😅
Yeah. Helcurt is pretty nasty right now. I had a game where no one banned him. Luckily the guy is still practicing with Helcurt. Dodged a bullet there 😅.
I like this helcurt become a roamer than jungler, the dmg is crazier with dire hit and its really my type because i usually pick an intense jungler gameplay from beginning like martis or fanny.
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*Helcurt always make my balls shake in fear every time he uses his ult as a mm main 😭*
I agree that helcarrt is meta now , but i also agree with you that second skill damage is little bit less than before
Hellcurt 2nd skill damage at lvl 1 used to be 405 damage with master assassin and now he does lower damage than tig and he's a tank
10:24 justice for roamer, roamer are people too
We need level too
No.
To sum it up, Revamped Helcurt is actually similar to Natalia, what makes him different than Natalia is his Jungling speed, that's why he's still prefered as a jungler. Although Roam or Midlane Helcurt is possible.
beto pls do a nolan gameplay with his starlight skin
8:29 yes helcurt dmg actually deals lesser dmg now before revamp he literally one shots marksmens early to late but after revamp he canr one shot anymore maybe they nerfed his dmg to balance him
Atleast u hit enemies with stingers i always miss after this revamp n yea maybe it's nerfed the stingers
yes his skill deal less dmg, but to maximize dmg, u need to attack before 4 second after enemy see u, cuz after 4 second your dmg buff will be gone
He's definitely more sustainable, and ganks more often.
He also have his ult at his passive which supports the idea of ganking more often, which will result in a snowball game.
His second skill definitely is not as scary, but its just fair since he got a massive buff in his passive. His ult is basically to chase and run, he already can gank without his ult.
His first skill is good since he can use it more often with the prowler state. The terrify effect sometime can mess up your gank, since the enemy is constantantly moving so your second skill have a chance to not hit.
Is he ban worthy? Yes and it depends, if you wanted to play a squishy hero, ban him or use a hero with a lot of cc, like valir and vexana. If your planning to use tanks or tank jungler i think its just find to ban another hero.
Bro intentionally missing the 2nd skill to teach us to never auto aim🗿🗿
15:21 very early indeed wait for the 2nd phase of the dash then you can achieve what youve been aiming for
He's very good because now he can rely on faster heals and 1 2 combo without relying on unl every time. Plus I think dhs as 1st or 2nd is better
Lesly's ult indeed cancel Helcurt ult and reavels the map and her surroundings for Lesly.
If my buff was stolen by tank like that i would have lost my motivation to play 😂
just a few minutes ago I was playing a match with cyclops and helcurt would always try to kill me and it looked like some purple roach just scampering towards me at high speed 😭😭 I didn't know he got buffed so much lol
He's generally better in my opinion.
2nd skill indeed deals less damage than before. I think it is to balance the face that Helcurt has become easier to use.
I mean he has free extra movement speed and regen without buying any item
He has a free bush checking now (spotted state triggers movement speed increase when seen by enemies)
His stingers regen now without attacking
His blink is now terrify effect, removing chance of enemies to dodgewithout relying on stuns
I kinda liked his old passive more bc it counteres alot of set tanks and close range cc
You should do some giveaway
as a roam too he’s scary 😢
The funny thing is old hellcurt before revamp couldn't be bullied by tank jgs