Fun fact, this was going to be a Flats Two video, but due to some unforeseen issues I didn't have a video for this channel today so we uploaded this one. If you enjoyed it, this is the type of content that goes out everyday over there :) ua-cam.com/channels/pXyxLahbn7vZfR5fexenuw.htmlvideos
as a silver support main...that's kinda my point lol, no matter how much healing i do, someone tries to blame me for them dying even though i physically can't outheal all the enemy team's damage
@@falloutphan7341 I run into the issue myself that if I'm not playing healer for some reason regardless of my communication with the team, I get low healing. I more so blame people not communicating than the healer.
Love seeing you chat with the players on your team. It really sheds light on peoples misconceptions about playing heroes. I laughed when you were frustrated that the Reinhardt didn't counter pin, Felt that in my soul. The fact that he tried to play it off as if it was calculated blew me away like wtf are you smokin bro lol.
Could be genuine misknowledge. In the heat of the battle you tend to focus on what you know and ignore other’s inputs. He might’ve genuinely thought that a counterpin wasn’t necessary (I thought the same until it registered in my head that Flats himself said it was necessary). If he did realized and and did play it off, yeah he’s most definitely in the wrong.
I try to stay out of it honestly. If it's the enemy team they literally fall apart. If it's my team I ignore unless I got something helpful to say.. at absolute worse I leave lol
@@HiddenWindshield That's pretty incorrect. Smurfs are alt accounts made to purposely be lower in mmr or sr. Usually sr. Alt accounts are usually very close to main account Sr
You have single handedly rekindled my interest in Overwatch. In a solid week, I was reminded why I quit playing OW. But I find it fun to be playing it again so Imma deal with it.
@@Imaginedying434 im sorry that my fellow moira players have given us a bad name, but then again you might get those dogshit diving moiras that dont stay with their team and ask for heals LUL if thats the case just ignore them
I mean....I've come to realize every rank is toxic, haha. Just depends on the people on your team. Some matches are amazing. And then you have these 😂😂
@@Lol-zw8ks I sadly wouldn't know myself as highest i can manage is gold. But what I've experienced getting through that is awful. Not just in voice chat but in the text chat as well. And now that I know that, I may just stick to gold being highest 😂😂😂😂
That's because once you reach a certain level, confidence can become ego/arrogance. So finding a high level player with the humility to maintain a confident image of themselves without becoming conceited is very rare.
I'm sure Flats himself has already figured this out, but to anyone else having the same issue: alt+tab taking forever usually means that your in-game resolution and refresh rate doesn't match your operating system's settings, so the video card has to switch modes every time you alt+tab (assuming you're playing full screen). Check that your settings match.
I play OW in 2160x1440p but my default res is 3840x2160 so obviously tabbing out will take longer because it's changing resolution isn't that just common sense?
10:10 - One of the big reasons I don't like playing Widow: She's such a 'feast or famine' character. I much prefer heros where I can get that consistent value. Combine that with a relatively straightforward play style (click hed, click hed, grapple from dive, click hed) and she's low on my list (the playstyle thing is also why I dislike Pharah, for instance).
Pharah is only ‘feast or famine’ if you’re bad at pharah. I’m a gm pharah otp and you can definitely play into 3 hitscans and dva and do well if you’re good enough.
@@huskerfiend Didn't say Pharah was feast or famine, said she was straightforward. Any spam/splash dps you can obviously get consistent value. I just find Pharah suuuuper boring. Like, maybe on maps with boops for enviro kills, otherwise is just 'tap space in rhythm + left click' for 12 straight minutes. Pharah might be the hero I find most boring in the entire game.
@@RLplusabunchofdumbnumbers I personally find Reaper more 'Feast and Famine' either you're going to just be that one man army and completely roll their backline all game, pulling off 5K death blossoms and soloing tanks or You're getting chain CC'd and basically playing catch up all game as the enemy team denies you space over and over with junk mines, boops, brig stuns, flash and fans etc. I think mechanically he's more interesting than Widow or Phara cause you're literally just spending all game taking duels and trying to bait enemies into blowing their abilities too soon.
I’m a tracer player who’s legally blind. I just love playing ranked with my friends cause it’s fun “seeing” how well we can do. Today I just hit gold 1 and it’s been amazing. I love just chilling with the lads complimenting there good taste in character skins and great plays.
every rank is toxic af. In comp last night and our dps were jumping off the map all game then left. losing 200sr in a couple days from people leaving and throwing, there needs to be actual punishment for it
@@DanDines Its kinda hard to know who leaves intentionally and who disconnects. Although they could not apply it to people who rejoin the game i guess.
That's honestly one of the best way to call out toxic kids is just laugh at them and watch them flounder when they don't know what to say because they expected you to get toxic back at them.
Widow is such a good lure omg. I had a team mate swapping to widow on purpose (even so they sucked) so they would get dived hard and we had easier time winning.🤣 sacrifice for the greater good. Don't try that with team that suck..guaranteed loss.
Every time I've played comp or qp, there is always at least one toxic person in every game. Thankfully, in lower ranks, they usually don't have or use a mic so you only see it in chat.
I slowed down the video, and the grav didn't pull them out of your fan. the doom booped you twice during it. before the grav hit the floor you already use the whole fan the hammer
Thing ping system is either going to make communication so smooth, or its going to be a disaster lol. Either one person is going to ping an enemy and everyones going to follow that, or each player is going to ping a different target in a chaotic mess.
I absolutely hate those condescending high and mighty players who think their better when their dogshit and blame others for their downfall and avoid genuine advice because they think that they're already the best. Actually gets under my skin
Okay so obivously flats is better than me but these calls in game 1 cannot possibly be correct. I already commented about how zarya's grav didnt actually pull ana away from fan the hammer, but also towards the end of the round at 2:38 flats says they could push that. Then the rein says "they respawned" and flats says "ugh well now they did". Except like what??? the time between flats saying "we could push that" and the "them respawning" is fucking tiny how the hell would that have led to a successful push. Even if Flats's Lucio had sped in immediately as Flats said "push", they still wouldnt have reached them in time because the enemy lucio sped them out.
OW is a game of milliseconds. The time it takes to say a sentence can be the difference between a won fight and a lost one. Odds are the time to push was a narrow window that was lost by the time Rein said what he said instead of holding W. The Rein was still separated enough from his team that if everyone sped on him, he'd be DEFINITELY be dead before his team could have done anything. But because there was hesitation, he had time to get his respawned teammates within range to help him. I think Flat's call to push was a little bit late, but he had the right idea and the Rein missed an opportunity.
But honestly though, 8 hrs is already a full time job. Plus, those 10 hours are spent sitting (correct me if he takes proper breaks, I honestly don't know). He's young (25 or so) now, but over time blood vessels will not be thankful.
I have to be honest, I really don't understand the idea of constantly getting new content. Maybe I am old man at heart but I don't need new stuff to keep playing, if I genuinely like a game I'll stick with it. Kept me in TF2 for a long time till the game changed in a way I was not happy with.
Not sure if this would help to make people less toxic in ranked matches...But if people reach Gold then they can't get any lower than gold, similar to the ranking system of Apex Legends, that way people won't get salty for losing the match. And I do agree with if they keep adding in new content it would make people less bored. But I guess they are focusing all their resources on Overwatch 2 at the moment.
The Rein in the first game was a big yikes. He wasn't even doing anything special, just existing. Not dying too much, but thats more on the supports than anything lol. And tbh, if that was my game (in my fuckin dreams, but still), I'd take the 3 seconds to send a report, bc screw ever having a chance of playing with or even against that guy.
As evident from the youtuber experimental patches, people will be happy with even the most insane balance changes because at least it's fucking different and invites new comps
Fun fact, this was going to be a Flats Two video, but due to some unforeseen issues I didn't have a video for this channel today so we uploaded this one. If you enjoyed it, this is the type of content that goes out everyday over there :) ua-cam.com/channels/pXyxLahbn7vZfR5fexenuw.htmlvideos
"i'm just asking for heals" "and you got them, so quit your bitchin" sounds almost word for word like a conversation i've had in mid-high silver-
Yeah I've had pretty toxic encounters in Masters. It doesn't get any better...
we get healing in silver?
as a silver support main...that's kinda my point lol, no matter how much healing i do, someone tries to blame me for them dying even though i physically can't outheal all the enemy team's damage
@@falloutphan7341 I run into the issue myself that if I'm not playing healer for some reason regardless of my communication with the team, I get low healing. I more so blame people not communicating than the healer.
@@ivenstorm yeah, lack of communication makes it rough
Love seeing you chat with the players on your team. It really sheds light on peoples misconceptions about playing heroes. I laughed when you were frustrated that the Reinhardt didn't counter pin, Felt that in my soul. The fact that he tried to play it off as if it was calculated blew me away like wtf are you smokin bro lol.
Could be genuine misknowledge. In the heat of the battle you tend to focus on what you know and ignore other’s inputs. He might’ve genuinely thought that a counterpin wasn’t necessary (I thought the same until it registered in my head that Flats himself said it was necessary). If he did realized and and did play it off, yeah he’s most definitely in the wrong.
Some people will only be happy if its a total stomping, the moment 1 little thing goes wrong they start getting toxic and baby rage.
I try to stay out of it honestly. If it's the enemy team they literally fall apart. If it's my team I ignore unless I got something helpful to say.. at absolute worse I leave lol
Imagine being a Masters Rein and ignoring Flats call on tank pushes
Not everyone know who's he is.
Especially given that he's on a smurf
@@jackeea_ Not a smurf, an alt account, there is a difference.
@@Obmelg No, there really isn't. "Smurf" is just a slang term for an alternate account.
@@HiddenWindshield That's pretty incorrect. Smurfs are alt accounts made to purposely be lower in mmr or sr. Usually sr. Alt accounts are usually very close to main account Sr
the sad part is that kid knew he was being cringe as fuck and didnt change his mind until he knew more than 5 people were listening.
You have single handedly rekindled my interest in Overwatch. In a solid week, I was reminded why I quit playing OW. But I find it fun to be playing it again so Imma deal with it.
Don’t
@@musalli6330 I'm going to. And you cant stop me from playing.
@@morganfishman5897 DO IT FISHMAN
Just quittttt
Do it! Do it! Do it!
That moira was having the time of his life and I love that 😌
Moira players are the best I don’t find too many of em :(
@@kushpakk2210 really? All of the Moira players I find are toxic
@@Imaginedying434 im sorry that my fellow moira players have given us a bad name, but then again you might get those dogshit diving moiras that dont stay with their team and ask for heals LUL if thats the case just ignore them
Power to that Moira, power to the supports lol
I mean....I've come to realize every rank is toxic, haha. Just depends on the people on your team. Some matches are amazing. And then you have these 😂😂
True, but high diamond to masters has the worst ratio of toxic to pain
@@Lol-zw8ks I sadly wouldn't know myself as highest i can manage is gold. But what I've experienced getting through that is awful. Not just in voice chat but in the text chat as well. And now that I know that, I may just stick to gold being highest 😂😂😂😂
@@Lol-zw8ks oh god yes. cause those are the "glowy ranks" where people think they are almost as good as GMs but they are still closer to plat.
@@andusz5518 yep pretty much
That's because once you reach a certain level, confidence can become ego/arrogance. So finding a high level player with the humility to maintain a confident image of themselves without becoming conceited is very rare.
The worst part about off-roleing is having to watch people play your main hero(es) badly
Your teammates probably feel the same.
I'm sure Flats himself has already figured this out, but to anyone else having the same issue: alt+tab taking forever usually means that your in-game resolution and refresh rate doesn't match your operating system's settings, so the video card has to switch modes every time you alt+tab (assuming you're playing full screen). Check that your settings match.
it's 2022 why even use exclusive fullscreen anymore
@@legattacks you sound like a weirdo
@@legattacks ha?
@@legattacks lower input lag
I play OW in 2160x1440p but my default res is 3840x2160 so obviously tabbing out will take longer because it's changing resolution isn't that just common sense?
10:10 - One of the big reasons I don't like playing Widow: She's such a 'feast or famine' character. I much prefer heros where I can get that consistent value.
Combine that with a relatively straightforward play style (click hed, click hed, grapple from dive, click hed) and she's low on my list (the playstyle thing is also why I dislike Pharah, for instance).
Pharah is only ‘feast or famine’ if you’re bad at pharah. I’m a gm pharah otp and you can definitely play into 3 hitscans and dva and do well if you’re good enough.
@@huskerfiend Didn't say Pharah was feast or famine, said she was straightforward. Any spam/splash dps you can obviously get consistent value.
I just find Pharah suuuuper boring. Like, maybe on maps with boops for enviro kills, otherwise is just 'tap space in rhythm + left click' for 12 straight minutes. Pharah might be the hero I find most boring in the entire game.
That's why I'm a bit focused on Echo now
So much burst damage and FUCKING COPIES A HERO YOU MIGHT KNOW AND CHARGE YOUR ULT 500% FASTER
@@RLplusabunchofdumbnumbers I personally find Reaper more 'Feast and Famine' either you're going to just be that one man army and completely roll their backline all game, pulling off 5K death blossoms and soloing tanks
or
You're getting chain CC'd and basically playing catch up all game as the enemy team denies you space over and over with junk mines, boops, brig stuns, flash and fans etc.
I think mechanically he's more interesting than Widow or Phara cause you're literally just spending all game taking duels and trying to bait enemies into blowing their abilities too soon.
You're talking about my boy genji. Except he's just fucking famine nowadays :(
That little roasting session of that dude's mic was great.
I’m a tracer player who’s legally blind. I just love playing ranked with my friends cause it’s fun “seeing” how well we can do. Today I just hit gold 1 and it’s been amazing. I love just chilling with the lads complimenting there good taste in character skins and great plays.
Flats dps gameplay is honestly more entertaining than a lot of dps streamers/UA-camrs
It’s a lot of fun seeing his game sense come through as a DPS.
I'm legit watching this vid while I expect to be in my queue for the whole thing lol
All my homies hate the queue.
@@cabig9838 I bet since I'm at least stuck in elo hell on my dps
every rank is toxic af. In comp last night and our dps were jumping off the map all game then left. losing 200sr in a couple days from people leaving and throwing, there needs to be actual punishment for it
Even if there was, many people care so little about rank at this point that it would hardly change anything.
@@matthewsarson6934 there should be a rank ban then, where they're unable to play comp for however long, like they do with comms bans
@@DanDines Its kinda hard to know who leaves intentionally and who disconnects. Although they could not apply it to people who rejoin the game i guess.
@@DanDines there is rank bans for leaving, and just keep reporting people and avoiding them.
@@post-lobotomy unfortunately I do. But my avoid list is changing daily at this point
That first game, youre in the right spot to counter the team before your entire team like each time.
Widow: *exists*
Enemy Team: "So you have chosen ... death."
That's honestly one of the best way to call out toxic kids is just laugh at them and watch them flounder when they don't know what to say because they expected you to get toxic back at them.
Nah, best way is to ignore them. Otherwise you add to the toxicity. Simple as that.
@@le1690 very true
0:43
Cree: ‘You call that a fair f-‘
*Scene transition beep*
The Midwestern accent on your Moira made my day
Widow is such a good lure omg. I had a team mate swapping to widow on purpose (even so they sucked) so they would get dived hard and we had easier time winning.🤣 sacrifice for the greater good. Don't try that with team that suck..guaranteed loss.
Just found your channel yesterday and your content is amazing!
Keep up the great work!
5:37 At least he apologized, which is very rare in a game like Overwatch.
Apologized? Maybe saved face
I could even hear his eyes rolling
He said beforehand "Im gonna be the bigger man here and apologise", thats hardly an apology and moreso trying to look good
Lol, he realized he was playing with a streamer and acted like he went through 7 years of repenting of his sins and had become a new, changed man.
@@danielf1833 after he knew he was a streamer he still went with the "bigger man" apology.
“It’s kind of my job” “is it?” *homie is an OWL Tank*
a reinhardt not knowing who you are shakes me to my core
I like that Moira, he seems like a nice person who is just fed up with that crap
the moment the rein realized he was talking to a streamer lol.
That Moira is fucking savage and I love it lmao
11:27 this part is why i keep coming back to this video
Kill the piggy! Oink! Oink! Dude that killed me! 6:22
1:46 .... no it didn't tho? right click had already ended by the time grav affected the ana
Every time I've played comp or qp, there is always at least one toxic person in every game. Thankfully, in lower ranks, they usually don't have or use a mic so you only see it in chat.
I slowed down the video, and the grav didn't pull them out of your fan. the doom booped you twice during it.
before the grav hit the floor you already use the whole fan the hammer
TRUE
0:23 Tyrone, chill bro
Bro, I want that Moira player on my team, the fuck? XD
The Cesspools of Overwatch: Plat and Masters
Let’s get flats to have his twitch name be trustedfart for a week lmao
Why is flats blaming the zarya ult for missing the shot at 2:00, when it was the enemy doom that knocked him around?
Thing ping system is either going to make communication so smooth, or its going to be a disaster lol.
Either one person is going to ping an enemy and everyones going to follow that, or each player is going to ping a different target in a chaotic mess.
0:43 'you call that a fair fuck?'
That guy was really excited to play Orisa and just gold skin every bit of CC
I absolutely hate those condescending high and mighty players who think their better when their dogshit and blame others for their downfall and avoid genuine advice because they think that they're already the best. Actually gets under my skin
1:06 can we admire this scene🤩🤩🤩
The flash fan didn’t work because of the doom slam / uppercut, not the grav.
I agree how mercy, widowmaker, dva, sombra, etc don’t need shoes and should go barefoot. 😂
All 4 of those already have skins that expose their feet tho
Just like how the sexiest character in the game already is barefoot
Winston
@@zSTALKn sigma?
now imagine this... but in eu, it is literal hell
12:38 this is the epitome of playing widow
not the toe skin chat forms man. LMAO
The immediate homophobe accusations from that rein shows what he's there for
when the mario sunshine music hits i just start bumping my head without control flats got taste.
flats' editor
Okay so obivously flats is better than me but these calls in game 1 cannot possibly be correct. I already commented about how zarya's grav didnt actually pull ana away from fan the hammer, but also towards the end of the round at 2:38 flats says they could push that. Then the rein says "they respawned" and flats says "ugh well now they did". Except like what??? the time between flats saying "we could push that" and the "them respawning" is fucking tiny how the hell would that have led to a successful push. Even if Flats's Lucio had sped in immediately as Flats said "push", they still wouldnt have reached them in time because the enemy lucio sped them out.
OW is a game of milliseconds. The time it takes to say a sentence can be the difference between a won fight and a lost one.
Odds are the time to push was a narrow window that was lost by the time Rein said what he said instead of holding W. The Rein was still separated enough from his team that if everyone sped on him, he'd be DEFINITELY be dead before his team could have done anything. But because there was hesitation, he had time to get his respawned teammates within range to help him. I think Flat's call to push was a little bit late, but he had the right idea and the Rein missed an opportunity.
Even when im just spectating I'm automatically tuning out the voice comms.
"You shall not play overwatch for that long"
But honestly though, 8 hrs is already a full time job. Plus, those 10 hours are spent sitting (correct me if he takes proper breaks, I honestly don't know). He's young (25 or so) now, but over time blood vessels will not be thankful.
@@PaulHoleybatch I get that but I was just sharing a favorite moment I thought was pretty funny
Ayo? Was that train rush from Hat In Time I heard?
QP main and I’m dying for balance changes because even there it’s pocket 76/Cass/Hanzo and a Bap in almost every game for a long time now
i know this was almost a year ago, but does the echoforce guy (moira) have a youtube channel? theyre pretty entertaining to watch
Idm why but evertime you upload I actually get excited to play ow but after a few hours I get depressed again
Lmao the roast at the end
as an orisa main i can confirm that playing orisa is indeed hell. 🤣
God I miss 6v6 😢
This is why I just play quickplay
Love the sunshine music
I miss Overwatch 1 for the toxicity
Nah the grav ain’t pull the Ana out, the doom uppercutted you from the ground like Tyson
W content!! Love your videos Flats!! 😋😋
The sound balance was off a few time in the video. 3:20 you can’t really hear what Flats is saying while the trumpets go wild
Flats if you're playing fullscreen try right side alt+enter before alt-tab
Welcome to *Painville* AKA *MASTERS*
What an absolute fazbearfan
Tyrone was just all in for the feet skins i swear
I had problems with frame skipping yesterday while I was on overwatch as well
I have to be honest, I really don't understand the idea of constantly getting new content.
Maybe I am old man at heart but I don't need new stuff to keep playing, if I genuinely like a game I'll stick with it. Kept me in TF2 for a long time till the game changed in a way I was not happy with.
As a Diamond/Masters Tank. Yeah.... Your title is most likely an understatement.
That no turrets Torb is poggers.
Moira mains/ gay people (same thing) are amazing
Would love to see more colour variation for guns, which can be swapped with different character skins for the same hero
hi flats, whitch type of headset you use for overwatch?
The best is when you’re playing console and some dude slams his keyboard and screams at you.
These are the most entertaining comms lol
In Gre2n’s defense, orisa is a tank player’s only real answer to sombra. Orisa might be terribly designed, but so is sombra.
What happened to the guild system Jeff promised us a long time ago. Still waiting on that :)))))))))
That moira is a g ong 😂
Not sure if this would help to make people less toxic in ranked matches...But if people reach Gold then they can't get any lower than gold, similar to the ranking system of Apex Legends, that way people won't get salty for losing the match. And I do agree with if they keep adding in new content it would make people less bored. But I guess they are focusing all their resources on Overwatch 2 at the moment.
NO WAY YOU PUT THE FEET GUY IN
The Rein in the first game was a big yikes. He wasn't even doing anything special, just existing. Not dying too much, but thats more on the supports than anything lol.
And tbh, if that was my game (in my fuckin dreams, but still), I'd take the 3 seconds to send a report, bc screw ever having a chance of playing with or even against that guy.
Comp in Bronze: Toxic
Comp in Silver: Toxic
Comp in GM: Toxic
Whats wrong with everyone?
Poppin heads on the widow
Overwatch is toxic??????? WHO KNEW?
Moira player is my new supp icon LMAO
Love your videos
here's a question I have. At what stage IS it your teams fault and not yours?
You forgot to place your end cards my guy!
As evident from the youtuber experimental patches, people will be happy with even the most insane balance changes because at least it's fucking different and invites new comps
I’m Confused on why flats didn’t dragon point on junkertown I felt like that would have won them that third cap
This x2 is what Plat/ Diamond is like
Dude looked up trusted fart fr
OH NO FLATS ON DPS AGAIN