I Sold my 4090 for a 7900 XTX - 1 Year Later
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I Sold my 4090 for a 7900 XTX - 1 Year Later
Around a year ago now I sold my RTX 4090 for a 7900 XTX, but why did I do it, and was it a mistake… Let’s talk about it.
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Q: Why did I do it?
A: I have another 4090
He did it so he could squint his eyes at us.
😉
I Heard He Did It So He Could Flex His Mustache....
I own the XFX Speedster Merc 7900XTX Black Edition, it's a beast and quality is outstanding. I went from a Gigabyte 3080 to a XFX 7900XTX.
They overclock/undervolt wonderfully. They also look really good. I have the Black 7900 XT and XTX. Used the 7900XT until just recently, because I am running a 6K monitor. The XTX doesn't require FSR to get to the 60 FPS the monitor can handle in Riftbreaker.
Lol. We literally went the same upgrade path. I had the white giabyte 3080 and got the XFX 7900XTX.
@@robertmyers6488 Thanks for adding! Haven't tried overclocking or undervolting yet, might do that. Yeah, it looks amazing and really sturdy, the backplate is amazing too as well as the cooler.
@@knockoutninja8963 Awesome!! :D
So the real question is???
Is one simple feature on Nvidia worth the extra$$$.
RX 7800 XT owner here and i paid $496 new. I love it
Mine is paired with a 7800x3d cpu. Killer setup.
I‘ve also one! Powercolor Hellhound RX 7800 XT. Wonderful card. I’ve paired it with my 5800X3D. Really good fit.💪
For the price difference between a 4090 vs. a 7900 XTX you can get most of the way to a really good HDR monitor and not give a care about RT.
For real, the difference between these cards is around $900, for this money you can get WOLED gaming monitor
You also loose DLSS, you cant ignore DLSS is still tangibly better than FSR. That said I refuse to support the RTX 4090 price point.
@Battleneter The 7900 XTX and the XT have more than enough power to not need it through 4K. Even if they did it isn't that much of a difference. Motion is better on DLSS but image clarity is better on FSR. Haven't used them have you?
@Battleneter I'm not opposed to the price if it allows you to do things you wouldn't otherwise be able to do. I now have a 6K HDR600 monitor. The clarity, colors, and levels of gray are phenomenal, but it is limited to 60 Hz. The 7900 XT was getting 45 native, but with FSR quality it went to 60 improving motion. The XTX can do it at 60 native. If the Monitor had a higher refresh like 120 then it might be required to have something like the 4090. All three cards have the most important feature which is greater than 16GB, but at 6K you are pushing very close to 20. The 7900XT is easily the most under rated best value card with an easy tune.
@RmX. Exactly, or a QD for a bit more money. I wish they had a 27" QD OLED 240 HZ. 32" is just too low a pixel density for me. I had them for years, but Apple is correct about image quality and pixel density. When Apple introduced the the 5K Imacs I bought my first Apple. Loved the screen and the OS then was still pretty good. However Ryzen was released a couple of years later and that was a seismic shift that I couldn't ignore. So it was back to 4K.
My son has built his first AMD with a 5800x with a 7800xt and he plays many games at 4k nicely
kids dont care about shitty frames tho
@@RizzzTardyeah a 7800xt ain't gonna give good FPS at 4k, gonna be at most 60fps onna decent heavy game or even less than that. I got 7800xt and it's solid at 1440p, above 100fps usually.
Great father 🎉
@@TheRealName7 Depends on the games, If my guy wants to play Cod,Elden Ring , Monster hunter world . 4k120 is on the table for most Games , 60fps only for newer Graphics intensive games
@@snakeinabox7220 elden ring is pretty badly optimized so deffo not getting above 60fps 4k
Damn I remmeber that day like it was yesterday...
I thought it was yesterday
a years crazy, it hasnt been a full year yet, he got his after me and i got mines like in august ...
Had to make this decision when I was building my new rig. Went with the 7900XTX Taichi and basically upgraded my entire setup with the grand I didn’t donate to the green machine.
Happy Taichi owner here too! Great GPU
Lmaoo! Same, sapphire nitro+. Got lucky on my silicon too, it can handle undervolting to 1065 and still play my entire library without crashing. Overall, happy with how it turned out and the money for me also went into some great additions. Glad to see other folks going price/performance instead of feeding these garbage market prices nvidia says are "normal" at the moment
My taichi runs super hot! I have 3 case fans and it’s still overheating and will shut down. I did a slight undervolt and that seemed to keep average temp from 92 to around 88 during OW gaming at 4k
I've been with mine in an EK water block for a year, have used a 4090, and I have zero regrets. I'm a happy camper.
"You Tell Em Burt Reynolds" AKA "Turd Ferguson"
Happy that I chose 7900 XT for 800 e instead of 4080 super 1100 eiro
Yeah, you made the right move. Now install Arch Linux.
I got mine for 725 including warranty and tax. I also have zero regrets.
@@hyperreal3094I’m happy with my 7900 XT . 20GB of vram . We won’t have to upgrade for a long time … we good . Great price btw .
Same its an absolute beast of card. I think we'll see it sell out in a year and hover around the lowest retail price for a while on the used market. I'm excited to see what AMD does with RDNA 4. If its around this level of performance with better ray tracing for less money I think people will actually flock to it, especially since they're already making strides with FSR.
@@DosonTheGreat no, install Gentoo
I have had 7900XT for a year now. First amd card and I have nothing bad to say. Honestly I think at this point we have two very good options.
I had it exactly the opposite way. Always AMD cards and the only time I bought 2080 Ti, it was DOA. So I stuck with AMDs again. Now rocking 7900 xtx for a year also and super happy all around.
The only problem i encountered so far is that you cant play fallout nv/3 bc amd drivers incopatibilty
@@christianchimienti2510 they've fixed it in drivers I think pretty recently, if not there is a mod that fixes it I've used
You won't "fix" 120Hz max on 4090 (in DUHD/2x4K resolution) unless you'll physically change display port for a newer one. Maybe some company will release DP 2.1 4090 (and will charge $2000 for it). But probably not.
Next up in this series: This guy trades his rented Porsche in for a scooter..
@@JamesSmith-sw3nk as someone that works on euro trash thats a fair trade. 🤣
😂😂😂
Microcenter just sent me an email yesterday afternoon offering to buy back my 18-month old 7900xtx for $800 (store credit). No way I'm taking them up on it, but the timing seemed funny. As a Linux gamer, nVidia just isn't a viable option because of the driver situation (especially since Linux HDR gaming just flat out doesn't work on nVidia hardware), and AMD isn't making an equivalent or better card in the 8000 series. Overall, have nothing but good things to say about navi31, with the exception of the HDMI 2.1 open source driver fiasco.
Lol, 800 bucks for AMD aging card while new 5080 will smoke brakes off of it
Go take up that offer and upgrade to something of between 4080 and 4090 quality card (5080) with 300-400 dollar upgrade
Speculations say 5080 will beat 4090, though I personally doubt it.
I tried 7900xtx. And I owne 4090. 7900xtx is 2 tiers below. Not 1 tier.
7900xtx is as close as you can get with 4080. But 4080 drivers are super stable.
7900xtx crashed all the time for me. 2 cards in the row
800 bucks for a uses 7900xtx is like free money on the brink of RTX
Though you will need to lay off games and hit the gym or something 😂
I wouldn't use another RTX card if you paid me the full price. Linux drivers are terrible, and I couldn't game in HDR.
Been on the 4090 since launch. Never had an issue. It will be, by then, 2 years of great frame rates, very usable ray tracing + DLSS on applicable games. When the 50 series launches, I will most likely relegate the 4090 to the living room PC to replace the 3080Ti.
Same 😭 wish I kept my 7900xtx only returned it because junction temps hitting over 99c
I miss my 7900xtx, I bought it on launch day and I loved it when I received it but it had the same issue as your 7900xtx so I returned it for a Rtx 4080, I miss my 7900xtx and the colours were so much better on AMD.
@@AssassinIsAfk Nvidia compresses colours and values in a trade off for more FPS. Personally I prefer better colours and and a flatter contrast that can always be adjust via settings if desired (as a photographer and videographer I know that you always shoot flatter and adjust later for maximum control over the final output). Once you compress the colours and their values - no amount of tweaking can bring them back. But to those who never try AMD, they would never know this difference.
@@WaspMedia3D what lol
If you'd have used the Adrenaline software to under-volt to, say, a really stable 1050, you'd have knocked 15c+ off of the max junction temp.
@@frostybe3r Some people know exactly what I'm talking about ... some don't.
If you use blender or any ray tracing creative software, the 4090 is literally twice as fast as a 7900xtx. I bought an xtx thinking it would work for me, but as as soon as I could afford it, I sent it back and bought a 4090
@@ELpeaceonearth You aren't who I 'm talking to Lmao.
Blender devs are hardcore Ngreedia fanbois, they don't care about optimizing for AMD gpus.
@@grtitann7425 There’s some truth to that. But AMD clearly missed the boat on Raytracing, because their cards suck for any path traced software, not just blender
i mean, it's more than twice as expesive so it better be
@@mihairomulus2488 Fair point lol
I own a sapphire 7900 XTX, genuinely an amazing card. (:
When opting for a GPU for a long time without changing, the Sapphire NITRO+ RX 7900XTX Vapor-X, this specific model fit into my budget, I paid its 950$, I left my Gpu for my second PC for more work cases, where the other GPU that is from Nvidia will give me support, obviously Nvidia has its friends and AMD the same thing, but in work Nvidia is still more viable for the moment, but AMD in card for long term games for $, an option infinitely better! Great video.
did this 4 months ago 4090 for a 7900xtx nitro + due to the 4090 losing it's 2nd hand value, and luckily I have no need for the 4090 for specific tasks where it's needed. Totally fine for gaming and for the programs I'm using on my PC atm (still getting a 5090 though)
I skipped the 30 and 40 series going to upgrade to a 5090 (got a 2060 super). Really hope they sort out the power cable issues for this next release.
@@squirrelsinjacket1804gl getting it cuz the ai companies are going to probably going to create another gpu shortage
@@9-ac-7 Gonna have to buy it in the first hour after release, if the bots haven't already gobbled them up.
My only problem was that I got really into VR flight simming a week after getting mine, and the 4090 does seem to have a decent increase in both frame rate and visual quality in that case. For most games the difference in price wasn't justifiable unless I planned on not upgrading for the next 5-6 years. If the 5090 lives up close to the hype and isn't insanely priced compared to the already crazy prices I'll probably be upgrading a lot sooner though.
Oh, I should probably mention one big con and that's that I haven't been able to open up the AMD software to update since that Bethesda space game came out. I've reinstalled multiple times and have tried every esoteric 10 step solution I could find to no avail. I'd reformat but I don't want to risk corrupting projects I've been working on.
@@bigcrackrock starfield
I’m currently shopping between an XTX and 4080 super, leaning towards the 4080 mainly because of DLSS
Yeah I would get the 4080 super.
You did it for the clicks
Bruh he could have made a video about how amd driver "ARE BAD" are and he would have got much more views
@@Shahzad12357I like this guy a lot. That said.. obv he does a lot for the clicks. You know what? All youtubers do it for the clicks. He used the xtx to be unbiased. I dig his content.. you just gotta know what to expect.
Of course he did it for clicks, this is how he makes part or all of his living. I'm guessing he was also was personally interested in how AMD performed vrs Nvidia, but at the end of the day everyone's UA-cam videos are created for views and clicks for monetary gain.
A year ago, when he first sold his Nvidia Card for AMD, I immediately clicked because I was thinking "what an idiot"..lol
But, I'm glad he did it because I was interested in seeing just how bad of an experience he was going to have.
So at the end of the day he provided value for me and made money off of me. Perfect example of capitalism.
That's the whole point of a yt channel
I still wouldn’t trust a rtx4090 cable connection failing or totally destroying my system if the connection melted…..that’s why AMD is better
Is the Nvidia 75% better?
Wouldn’t it make more sense to compare an overclocked AMD card to an overclocked nvidia card? If you know how to OC one you know how to OC both…
Thank you for actually trying out AMD and giving them a fair review
AMD not far behind … wait for RDNA5 … forget RDNA4 … that’s just a refresh … you’ll be very pleased
After reading a lot of the comments about the 4090 vs the 7900XTX iv noticed that a lot of AMD owners are happy with and or aiming for 60 FPS at any resolution. I think this is the disconnect here, people who are dropping the money on a 4090 mostly want over 100 fps and most likely find 60 fps to be completely unacceptable to even "laggy"... so just consider that their is a huge difference in standards and performance expectations for people who are happy to drop the money for a 4090 vs the people trying to get the best bang for their buck with anything AMD.
So you sold a knowingly faulty 4090 to some poor kid? 🥴
The thing about RT, is that it's great on the 4090, but below that card, it destroys frame rates to the point it's not worth the trade-off for a bit of extra bling. For First-person Shooter games, RT and DLSS etc are no advantage. The 4090 is without argument, substantially better than the XTX. But is the 4090 worth twice the price of an XTX? No way, it's great but not THAT great. Anyway, I got an XTX direct from Amazon, on a very limited flash sale, for 780.00, so no contest! Edit: ASUS Tuf version.
I love AMD but even that's a downgrade bud. I have a Ryzen 7 5800X3D with a 6750XT.
I have 3 machines and I have a 4090, 7900xt, and a 7900xtx i have to say I love them all for different situations.
well, I was going to buy the 7900 xtx, but it was sold out instantly, so ended up with a 4080 instead.
i really love my AMd gpu i ain't going back nvidia
I'm on 3090 love it 4k 60fps
I see no problem with the Windows Auto HDR for non-compliant games.
Bro had me fooled lol. I am getting a 7900xtx in 2 weeks
It's very good for non gaming also. And ZLUDA also gives you more options nowadays. That 24Gb VRAM comes handy!
Had a 7900xtx for 2 months now, love it, there is nothing it can't do lol. I upgraded from a 1660 super
Started on AMD integrated graphics, hardly touched adrenaline software or updated drivers and my 2400g worked perfecly fine. Upgraded to a Sapphire nitro + RX 580 special edition v2, loved that card.
Since then, three Nvidia cards. Just got my Nitro + 79xtx in november. Best purchase I've ever had. Spot on with this video good work
The fact that I use my GPU to many other things than ONLY gaming, the AMD GPUs are not an option at all for me. No 'RTX HDR' (converts SDR games to HDR) in games, no 'RTX Super Resolution' on videos in the web browsers, no RTX Video HDR on UA-cam and other streaming services and from locally stored videos, no good Ray Tracing performance and worser support for using the GPU like the CUDA-cores on NVIDIA GPUs on AMD GPUs overall.
Those features are the real reason why NVIDIA is the only choice for me.
CUDA aside, I've tried those and did not understand the hype, like they're ok but I can't see myself losing my shit over them
I guess you left it and went back to the 4090
I have no complaints on purchasing the 7900xtx on day one of the release. I dont use ray tracing, at the time the 4090 was double the price and I did not have to worry about a melting connector. As for the next generation, who knows.
The only thing the 7900xtx is better at than the 4090 is at not melting connectors
Price/performance ratio? Also, I'd expect state of the art HW for $1600, not melted power cable.
Right and you can't have full 240Hz in DUHD resolution, because unlike 7900 xtx (for $900), 4090 has obsolete DisplayPort.
Yes, 4090 is more powerful, but is also an insulting piece of HW for that kind of money.
? Was the song Burnin down the house going through your head as you posted, lmfao 😂😂😂😂.
Don't bring facts here. This is shills galore 😂
It's not a 4090, but it's a better overall card than the 4080 Super imo. I've had my XTX for a year and the performance is amazing. I got it for $850 in early '23 when you couldnt find a 4080 for less than $1300. The $$$ saved+performance gives it the edge
Is this a troll Lou? "Only thing the 7900xtx does better is not destroy itself like the 4090 does. Lol"
Wha?🧐
I have a few cards:
2 x 7900XTX, 1 x 7800XT, 1 x 6950XT, 1 x RX-3070 (Not used).
And a 1080Ti...Still used
for the price of a 4090, i could get a whole ass pc with a r7 7800x3d + 7800xt build with 32gb ddr5 ram..... i still dont care about anything above 1440p
I just (last week) sold my 7900 XTX for a 4080S :)
Sadly I use blender and AMD is still behind in that so I have to stick with nvidia
pffff damned peasents, my geforce 840m is far more dignified than your Uuid named cards.
Why after all this time, people keep ignoring the fact that AMD themselves stated that the 7900xtx competes with the 4080?
About RT, it's the same BS " in Cyberpunk 2077".
Stop, it's stupid to ignore the fact that so far, only one game is the showcase for this and does not justify spending over US$2K for a GPU.
And dlss is a locking tech that limits your options as a consumer.
You, as an influencer, need to be concerned in providing correct info, instead of blindly following the marketing dept material.
I'm stuck with nvidia, cuda is too powerful
Of course you made a mistake. The RTX 4090 is better in every way, you only get the 7900XTX if you don't want to spend at much on a GPU. I never had the problems you described.
Yup me neither.
true
I made the switch from a 1080Ti to a 7900XTX and I love the Adrenalin software and the card is a beast. If the 4080 would have been $999 instead of $1,200, I probably would have stuck with Ngreedia to be honest but I in no way regret going to an AMD GPU
same goes here after using rtx 3080 10 gb lol i switched to AMD rx 7900 xt and man i have zero regret of my choice
i bought also an 7900xtx because i didnt want to burn down my house with an nvidia power connector
This is the thing about luxury products.
A lamborgini is fast has cool features, and used for bragging rights.
A Nissan r35 is fast maybe not as fast, doesn't have all the cool features, works similarly but costs less money.
Same thing if I replace the car names with the gpu brands.
I never crashed as much with 7900xtx than any card in my 25 years of owning AMD and Nvidia cards
It was like all bad cards combined in 1
If I'm spending that much on a GPU, I want all the premium features, and at the moment only Nvidia provides a full feature set of the highest quality. And that's besides the fact that their GPUs are far more power efficient. AMD has some good GPUs at the lower to mid range, where the feature set doesn't matter as much, but at the higher end, Nvidia wins every match up.
i think theyre both fine, but AMD and radeon generate clicks. especially from a particular segment of viewers(not users)
Bro but the 4090 muh DLSS, muh ray tracing and PATH TRACING (licks jensens leather jacket)
Oh boy, you are screwed brother. The Nvidia bros are going to be leaving my comments section and heading for yours.
Someone in my community told me to check out your channel. It sounds like we are both having the same annoying Nvidia problems. If they would just stop cutting corners it would be fine.
I am currently using both a 7900XT and a 4080 Super
this comment is going to be enormous, don't read it, I wouldn't either ngl, just wanted to write whatever came to my mind, and I ain't hating or anything,
AMD is improving their GPU performance in every regard at a very fast pace, excited to see what their RDNA4 is capable of and how they will perform in terms of ray tracing, maybe the gen after the next AMD might even be able to compete or hopefully beat nvidia in ray tracing, cuz Nvidia really needs some good competition or else they gonna keep up with their horrendous pricing,
7900 XTX has amazing performance per dollar, I aint gonna hate on AMD, they are doing amazing work, I wish 40 series GPUs were as cheap as the AMD counterparts, best GPU under 1000$, its as good and sometimes better than a 4080, but its not comparable to 4090 in most cases, but this is supposed to be 7900XTX VS. 4090 video but he talked about how 4090 isn't compatible with some monitors, HDR problems and these monitor related issues, its supposed to be more GPU vs GPU, its a big issue, yeah, but this turned into more of a monitor video, the original list also mostly states the display problems, there are issues you should consider, but you can just get a monitor that is very compatible with 4090 and this solves 90% of his 4090 complaints, I love his content, but this video ain't it, lemme give my pros and cons regarding 4090
4090
Cons:
you can buy a car with that price
in Raster performance, in a few games (mostly titles that prefer AMD), it's only barely better than 7900XTX while being significantly more expensive
performance per dollar is not worth it
Monitor compatibility is a problem many times like stated in the video
cant think of anything else tbh, I'm sure there are more, but nothing that major
Pros:
its the fastest overall GPU right now
DLSS is significantly better than FSR on every level, from upscaling to frame gen ( I don't have a 40 series GPU, I love the fact that AMD lets everyone use FSR frame gen, I hate Nvidia in this matter)
video editing, photo editing, 3D work, game dev, and other productivity software, most content creation work, 4090 is better especially Blender,
when you are spending over 500$ on GPUs, don't lie to yourself, you wanna use ray tracing, and you want it to run well, any AMD users who are saying they don't like raytracing or raytracing isn't even that good, either they actually don't want it cuz raytracing will decrease FPS no matter which GPU you own, or you are just tryna cope with the fact that the best AMD GPU cant even compete with 4070 in terms of Raytracing, ray tracing makes any game look better, and no one can change my mind about that
if you read this, you definitely don't have ADHD
he did it for the views lol
Wish they still had crossfire. Can you imagine 2 XTX for about $150 more.
At my local store you can get 2 most expensive RX7900XTX for the price of 1 cheapest 4090,,
I love mines, and unlike what i heard in the beginning its a beast at VR
ofcourse its a MASSIVE downgrade.
Great video, I have a Taichi 7900xtx. I love it
NO NO NO... AMD started this shit w/3550hs and Vega 8 compute cores.
The ray-tracing performance is not there yet, on RTX 4090.... well, it's the third generation of ray-tracing cards, for which nvidia asks 2000 $, and it's still not there!... how much greedy can you get, nvidia!???
I built two gaming PCs and used 7900XTX in both of them just because DLSS performs horribly at 4K120, if I'm going to be playing at native res anyway then there's no reason to buy Nvidia.
Ray tracing and Dlss are not for competitive fps. So Don't care. I got a 7900xtx used on Amazon for 840 over a year ago
I went from a 580 to a 5700 to a 3080 and the software is still way behind. Way behind. Bare in mind that it was a 2 out of 10 before, having to jump between 4 apps to do what you want and the two best programs not even being made by Nvidia in Afterburner and Riva Tuner. Remove those and the old Control Panel was a legit 1 out of 10. Now I'd say they are at a 5.5 out of 10 if we put AMD's Catalyst software suite at a 9. I'd say it has the potential to get to the same spot assuming the person is familiar with it, though I still find the layout in AMD's suite to be a little bit more intuitive.
Whatever the case, the jump from a 2 to a 5+ is pretty huge in-and-of itself so I am not complaining, and with a few tweaks to the layout itself along with fixing some blacked out options and adding a few, some of which will be fixed with actual hardware adjustments like oh idk......using the latest display port technology as opposed to sticking people on 1.4? Lol, seriously, what did that save them? 35 cents per unit? That's fine for 60 class cards and below (for now) but on 3080+ cards they need to do a little better. Anything 70's and up in the Lovelace lineup should have been 2.0+ compatible out of the box. What a ridiculous decision considering the launch prices on these things. At that point just add 50 fricken cents to the product. No one is going to care and it was really, really a poor decision to say _"Eh, who needs high refresh rates at 4K? They'll drop to 720P if they are that concerned. I mean do they really want more than 50% GPU usage while playing CSGO? If you think about it, we are saving them money on their energy bills at the cost of "KD" ratios which no one really pays attention to anyway."_ Lol, it's better than being banned for anti-lag software I suppose, but not much considering they made the decision on purpose.
i sold my 7900xtx and bought a 4080
Ai hdr features made me buy 4070 ti super
May I ask why? It's not really an upgrade.
@@shazzi1626 You bought $800 GPU so you can have artificialy enhanced low quality video? Is that what you're saying?
@@moravianlion3108 no I got the 4070 ti super for 700$ on eBay. The Rtx hdr was a plus since it adds better hdr than windows hdr on every game. HDR is a hit or miss on windows bc not every game has good implementation. Plus all ray tracing, drivers and up scaling.
@@moravianlion3108 i had so many problems with driver crashes and game crashes it was driving me crazy. as soon as i sold it and got a 4080 my system and games was stable again. also fsr3 is nowhere to be seen in most games i play
At this time I would not debate the fact that the RTX 4090 is the best GPU out there. It is like cars. You really do not need a BMW to drive to a Walmart 3 miles away. When any brand will get you there and safely. Same with video cards. Folks with 1080p 60 hz monitors do not need a RTX 4090. Really for anything that a lesser card could do and even get the same results at a way cheaper price. There are always going to be bottlenecks in this case it is the monitor.
next weeks video:
*Why going from a 4090 to a 7900xtx was the best decision i ever made. *
Because i needed to upload a video about this topic.
one thing that people don't talk about i would love for you to turn on Virtual Super Resolution and put your games to 8k and tell me how it looks as long as its certain games when using the Virtaul super Resolution it will not in pack performance at all but some tiles it will i think if AMD works on there Virtual Super Resolution there will be no need for upscaling since AMD is superior at downscaling that people don't talk about why have upscaling when you can downscale 8k to 4k looks 100 times better. so if you want to upscale to 1440p or 4k set desk top to 1080p and play your games in 1440p or set desk top to 1440p and play your games at 4k and you will see the dif in quality. i have no clue why no one talks about AMD's downscaling its all about upscalling
4090/5090 are production cards and overkill for most. 7900 XTX and 4080 are the cards that most need feedback. But that said INTEL build with Battlemage would be my choice. The performance would be on bar with 7900 XTX and 4080 and future proof with APO that will challenge 5080 in the future.
I think you should test and make a video of A770 with REBAR and the point that there is no waiting and FPS count you could almost double because ARC architecture pairs with CPU. AMD/Nvidia doesn't and uses one silicone. Test programs and FPS counters do not take this in count. I use A770 for 4k with good results and value for money. 4070ti would give more FPS but bad stutter for bad experience. It is almost spot on that 60 FPS from ARC is 120FPS from 4070ti but no waiting on tasks with ARC and every frame from ARC matters. It is two silicone's via REBAR vs one standalone silicone. So my view is that the 60FPS doesn't take in count the CPU pairing and the performance in reality is double if not more. My experience is with A770 is that if you can get 40FPS the game is very playable. Same you can't say from 4070ti even 120FPS where one silicone can't queue tasks without stutter. Lot more FPS is needed for the same performance. Also has to be said XeSS XMX specific for ARC is very close to DLSS and better than FSR. Also I would like to point out AMD doesn't run all of the games just like Nvidia. Both have their developments and game designers to suit. ARC doesn't work on all games either but the numbers are not that far from AMD/Nvidia.
I have a 4090 with a Samsung 49 inch display (its a 40-somthing inch I don't remember). I have less black screen and better refresh rates and just overall less issues with the 7900 xtx than I did the 4090. I have to admit tho, I play cyberpunk weekly and the 4090 runs it better and at higher settings. I'll keep my 4090 in it's box next to my desk just in case, but overall I don't think I'll be using it again.
Ill give him credit for trying 7900XTX for a year, tiz funny on the nvidia list though G9 57" if you knew anything about display tech you'd know that 4090 cannot do 240hz because DP 1.4 even the 7900xtx has some compression because 13.5hbr vs PRO 7900 which has the full 20hbr. That black screen alt tab would be killer for productivity adds up over time thise 3 to 5 seconds... a note i have 2 7900xtx's
Funny how you dont mention the insane power consumption of 7900xtx.
Have 2 monitors? welp that means 100+ wats.
Did you just start a small 2d game? yep, still 100+ wats.
I know it is because of the chiplet design and also there are alot of people complaining how only 2-3 adrenaline versions per year are truly stable.
I did the same mistake, i sold my 4090 with profit like 6 months ago, for a half priced 7900 xtx, and after only 3 day's ive returned the shit amd gpu, it was super shit in 4k, cod mw3 was having stupid artifacts issues, just sinciraly trash product, i rebought a 4090 and everything as returned amazing since. It's not the first time i lost my time with an AMD product, i tried to build myself a 7700x system, and it was 1 min boot time each time put on the pc... its was juste trash. i returned to Intel at that time. but for me my experience with AMD is half and half, half really good and half really bad, my family pc have a rx 460 in it for 1080p and believe it or not its running extremly smooth any game at that resolution, few years ago i had a rx 6800xt and it was really great and smooth experience. But with Intel and Nividia in 20 years, i literraly and totaly honnestly never had any any any of thos major problems... I'm curently on a 12900k-4090, so happy to choose 12 gen over 13 or 14 lol anyway great video dude!
been using Intel and Nvidia for major tasks thru the years and they're not the safe haven people say they are, people give AMD too much unwarranted shit
Nvidia HAS to fix DSR/DLDSR not working because of DSC. AMD doesn't suffer from this with Super Resolution/VSR. It's INSANE that a massive company that dwarfs AMD can't fix this issue.
If notoriously melting power cables won't dip nvidia high end sales, nothing will.
You did it to save a few dollars, because nobody would trade the 4090 for a 7900xtx for equal money.
I would, because it's trash. I had the money, but it's a pain to use for my use case. Put that money into a custom loop instead.
@@DosonTheGreatand what does a custom loop give you in regards to performance?
Of course not. The 4090 is the top dog right now and if someone has to have the best then this is the only choice. Pay up. Perfectly happy with my 7900xt I got for under 700USD open box vs 1600+ for a 4090 though. To each their own.
@@TheJamesKFif we look at the market and compare both gpus the 7900 xtx is a high end graphics card while the 4090 is top end which means highest end ever imagine able like there is no higher than it but it is in higher tier than high end gpu like the 7900 xtx.
@@gamingcomputers7485 What is your statement even adding? He said it was the top dog. You sound like a 9 year old.
The last thing i want to do when i have a 1000$ plus card is to use dlss and fsr . And nvidia keep making their tech generation agnostic is annoying
RDNA4 won't have a RTX5090 competter but Cuts gap on ray-tracing and AMD are supposed to be going low on prices. I suspect RDNA4 is stop gap with RDNA5 high end coming sooner than most expect them. With ground up redesign They may finally get chiplet working in gpu like cpu. I'm hoping Intel makes huge strides on hardware & drivers then commits to at least 10 more gens as 3 competitors is better than 2 price & performance wise.
It's always been interesting to me that people are locked out of DSR with DSC enabled on Nvidia. I've never had this issue and game exclusively in DSC. I know there are some exceptions but it seems like most DSC displays don't allow this.
Love my 7900xtx. With the insane price difference between the two here in Australia I was able to watercool my 7900 xtx and still have some change left over. Was a little rocky when I bought it 12 months ago due to using old spec cables etc and a few driver bugs here and there, but since switching to better cables and better drivers as a pure gamer I'm happy with how it performs even on a 57" samsung neo g9
What do you mean better cables?
I like my 7900xtx sapphire nitro+, but I have noticed that I like the features that Nvidia offers better versions of. I think I’m definitely going with Nvidia for next gen. I really like upscaling and frame gen so that I can play single-player games at 4k without my room getting super hot. Using the auto overclocking I’m able to get above 3ghz, and most games can run 4k 144 fps max settings w/o ray tracing, but it runs pretty hot though. That matters for me bc it sits
Are you talking about DLSS? People complain about DLSS creating artifacts and overall blurry image. If you have monitor so close to your eyes, I don't think that's a good idea.
@@moravianlion3108 No DLSS is generally just better than FSR. FSR is good and all, but most major sources say that DLSS is better so It's a nice bonus for Nvidia cards.
@@elibolton6235 take it from an Nvidia user rn, DLSS is great, no questions asked but I wouldn't stretch myself to say it's miles better than FSR, FSR now is fine by me as well
I do regret going with a 4090, I only got it because of frame gen (which AMD didn't have yet back then) and better ray tracing (which I wanted to use in warhammer darktide), but now 1,5 years later I kinda feel like selling it for like 1700 and just getting something like a 7700XT, 7800XT or 7900GRE.
A quarter to a third of the price, less power draw, much smaller so I can get a small case and I honestly don't care too much about Raytracing many games I play like Rimworld, TW Warhammer, Supreme commander don't use raytracing anyway.
Alas such is hindsight..
Following _ImWateringPSUs_ instructions on UA-cam, I've undervolted my 4090.
It's now even more responsive and saves approximately 20-30% power depending on whether I use the economy or the performance profile I set up.
(I also added +1300MHz to +1200MHz to the vram respectively because it now runs cooler.)
So there are solutions.
PS: I bought the PNY 4090 XLR8 which fits in a regular case.
@@jemborg I would probably look into undervolting but I've already made up my mind about selling it.
If I sell if for like 1500-1600 (a new one costs 1900-2200 in the Netherlands), it would cover the purchase of a nice SFF case, mobo, PSU and cooler plus the GPU and still have about 500 left.
I'd just transfer over the SSDs, CPU and RAM from my current build and then also sell that case/mobo/PSU off for someone to use as a foundation for their own build.
Good point for other people though who still want to keep their 4090.
@@Xeonzs fair enough.
Of course you stuck with it.
I have not seen your answer yet. 😁
The moment you said you did OC 20%... Dude almost no one will do it so... AMD said that they will not made high end gpu anymore. So for you there can be no alt path.
Obviously if you still have it a year later ... it wasn't so bad lol
If you care about DLSS just buy mid tier GPU and spare your money for something else
If your going to waste 1k in GPU just enjoy the native picture DLSS in games is no way better looking than the native picture
I have 7900 xtx and this card is so strong that it doesn't need DLSS I could play all games 240 fps at 2k or 144fps+4k and most AAA games will reach the limit of any monitor Refresh that we have in the market
Previously, I had 4070 and that card was still solid, but It will not give me 240 hz at 2k in most games without DLSS. with DLSS ON it helped but honestly, the picture was garbage most of the time I will switch DLSS OFF for me quality and the experience is much better than performance
When i bought mine, the difference in price was more than 200 dollars, and now the difference is 50 dollars if your choosing between them both go for the the 4080s if you care about Ray tracing if not go for the 7900xtx which has more VRAM and that will be an advantage for future when they release 8K or the gaming industry push the texture to the limit that we have today
In conclusion, don't waste your money on features that you will not use like fake DLSS when you have powerful GPU And you will not go wrong for both GPUs 4080s or 7900xtx. Both are beast it's like choosing between Ferrari or lambo both are fast but people want the experience 🤑
Glad i went with the 7900xtx. Was worried about AMD gpu support in various programs, but it actually works on all my games and even works with AI (I used Nod AI shark). My only real complaint is how hot it gets in my room but my lord the temps are great tho!
I use the money I would save on buying a 7900xtx instead of a 4090 and get a new tv. Nvidia pricing makes no sense for consumers
4090 is the only card worth getting imo. I love mine
Squinting at this
I think you stayed with the 7900XTX
Im still waiting for Battlemage
I bought a sapphire nitro+ 7900xtx and could not be happier with it. For the price is an amazing card. The 4090 is just too expensive.
i can't recommend amd gpus tbh. i've had 2 and it's just a bad experience, so many issues that i don't have with nvidia. basically it's only great for games, specifically with directx games, weird visual glitches even when whatching yt videos. and i get a lot of Blue screens, and i think my last one broke and i can't even do anything heavy on the gpu without getting a blue screen guaranteed. idk if they work for you i see it as a miracle lol, and i'm glad it works for some people if they do.
my latest one was a rx 6900XT btw
i do recommend the cpus however. i use the ryzen 9 5900x and it's amazing the performance is so nice. i need to test it with an nvidia card when i get one.