Gubbings or Greebles. As you build stuff up, make sure you remember to decorate the MDF so it doesn’t look like MDF. Put a control panel there, a ventilation port there. That kind of stuff. It will build the dimensionality of the piece.
Statues! Whether some regular-size minis painted up like stone or steel or some dollar store action figures or something, those are usually featured in 40k stuff and could help bridge the upper and lower aesthetics together.
Mel, ref 15:25, two double height GW Silo's (verticle stack) and one single horizontal with gubbins and greebles, should fill the 1'x1' blank board. I would also suggest any 2'x2' interconnecting pipework fit a vent on the end and create a connection shroud or sleave.
Add scattered terrain that would fit a more industrial vibe, thinking small barrels maybe piles of trash, piping running along across the sections of the board. also closed hatches, or doors along some of the sides might go to spruce up and make the Ford feel like there's more to it beyond the playable area.
I'd seal and paint MDF first. Maybe add some greeblies. Then figure what plastic scatter terrain pieces to add. Color scheme depends on what you feel is best. No pressure, Mel! Enjoy the moment.
I like the use of the "Come back down..." to segue between camera shots. Can you poke out "door" shapes, that a marked on the walls, to create more routes through the tiles.
You didn't magnetize your GW plastics? That's part of the fun. As for greebling: cables, small diameter pipes, vents, scifi-ish bits made from pen caps, bottle lids, broken up squirty bottle heads and pound shop toys, etc. Utilise the unused bits of MDF sprue and toothpicks to make panels, framing, gauges, etc. Wire in some battery-powered fairy lights for mood lighting. Stick leftover bits from the GW kits to the MDF to integrate them.
I think the scatter pieces at lower level, "the streets", should have some wrecks to hide behind. Either you keep them as scatter pieces that fit anywhere and keep the boards clean there or have them integrated but fixed. Game play should perhaps improve though never played kill team
I agree, crates and boxes (especially 1st Person Shooter exploding crates and barrels) could be fun; also, they could be kept separate from the tile to allow for more layouts.
The GW plastics are all Sector Mechanicus by the looks of it so maybe see if you can 3D print some Adeptus Mechanicus symbols to cover up the plain MDF walls. If you really want to Grimdark it up, you could make some door servitors from the torsos and heads of human minis (I'd use zombies), then mount them on the walls and attach wires between the stumps of their missing limbs and whatever bit of tech they're controlling. Whatever you do can't wait to see the finished product.
I have 6 of these on order to make a KT board also :) Though I won’t be permanently attaching any terrain to top as we play mission layouts also. Will be lighting the tunnels and I found terrain crate starship doors to add in places to break up the flat areas a bit
I’m curious to see a full 40k board built this way. Definitely not a board for vehicles tho, unfortunately. I love the idea of a board like this with roads wide enough to at least accommodate tanks going one way
@@TheTerrainTutor ya, I get that. Just saying a “block” board like this that can be built and rearranged with others like it that can accommodate vehicles on the lower levels would be nice to see. For verticality and armor in the same game
Looking SWEET BRO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have a TON of mantic sci fi terrain I'm planing on using for a star wars Mustifar build (HOPFULLY) this summer!!!! I printed around 400 droids so far
Mel, adding 3D printed "gribblies" to MDF terrain does absolute wonders! Take a look at Mortian site for ideas, it has a section of 3D printable stuff dedicated for GW's own Zone Mortalis terrain.
Hi Mel. If you're looking for some sci-fi scatter pieces, then check out Dungeons & Lasers Sci-Fi Customization Bits Miniature Set. It includes various vents, ammo & equipment crates, free standing computer display units, a medical bio-bed & separate manipulator 'arm', nuclear waste containers, light fittings and loads more.
Hardest part will be pulling the MDF into the upper layers. The texture stippling will do a great job tying different aspects together. Will you be using ash, rust or mars sand as the unifying theam? Love seeing this stage of a build (My personal favorite)!!!
Have you tried shopping in your local charity shops at all? I find all kinds of truly awesome stuff in the ones around where I live, and have found so many old super-squirter water guns that I've chopped up and made into sci-fi terrain (As well as the "Big At-Choo" Ork tank for a friend, made from a GW Baneblade chassis and added a slightly altered super-squirter rifle for the HUGE main gun. Now it's finished, she's rampaging across the table top, scaring the life out of her opponents, and demanding I build more like it for her, too :-D). I've also made some huge terrain pieces out of all the old plastic toy buildings and vehicles that I found in the toy bins of the charity shops, which have been donated to a local game club for under 16's, and they are VERY happy with what I made. I'm now building a massive, multi-layer, 6'x12' board for their larger WH40k games, and they've allowed me to use their clubhouse as a workshop in payment, so everyone is happy. I also have a "Glamorous Assistant" come into my sphere of weird and wonderful modelling life to help me as I go along. She's no Willow, but there's room for plenty of improvement yet :-D Loving seeing you back full of passion for the hobby again, and so glad to see your awesome kids involved at times with you, too. Keep posting these videos, and thanks for promoting your friend and his work, too, as I'd not heard of him, so will now check him and his products out for myself, and go from there :-) Love to all around you
I'd try to hide the grid a bit, fill some of the lines to create larger panels, cut lines between the lines to make smaller panels, cover them in texture or paint to hide the obvious grid. It might not matter in the game you are currently playing. But it will in games where you shouldn't be able to pre measure. You don't really want players to be able to look at the board and easily work out the distances.
If this is a combat zone, I'd totally have some sort of tank or walker half-spilled into one of the lower areas and wrecked (though that might block it off, which could be sub-optimal).
I'm really looking forward to seeing how this goes. If you haven't already, check out Magrathea's Necromunda builds for inspiration. ua-cam.com/play/PLI6y_cSc9z26V_n9OeZVZ6KfkERi6ugd0.html They're a fun rabbit hole to fall down, don't forget to come up for air!
Have a look at rapid table top or zorpazorp's old UA-cam post for necromunda and kill team terrain, respectively they mashed up all sorts of GW terrain. May give you some ideas?
Sorry for asking something that was probably said in the video; how does this compare to the "actual" killteam board size? Would a 2x3 of these be the right size?
The officially recommended board size for Kill Team is 22 by 30 inches I believe, but I imagine that going slightly larger with 24 by 36 inches would still be perfectly playable and enjoyable.
The 1x1 tiles are £40 each from Uncertain Scenery, so about £160 per 2x2. They do have some cheaper ranges though as well (which imo actually have some cooler tile options) which are £15 - £20 per 1x1 tile. So budget you could get a similar style 2x2 tile for like £60 - £80 quid
This MDF table looks fantastic is it possibly compatible with the TT combat MDF as well or is there a slight measurement discrepancy between the two companies?
@@TheTerrainTutor thanks buddy & can’t wait to see how this project evolves as I’m very much thinking of possibly doing the same thing for Necromunda 👍🏼
Break an old computer up or power supply. Use the wires, the fans, chips, capacitors,... as gubbins. Then 3d print or buy shittons of skulls (or get it out of GW terrain, I got quite a bit out of killteam terrain). If you don't have a skull or skull motive every square inch you're not doing it grimdark enough :P
Gubbings or Greebles. As you build stuff up, make sure you remember to decorate the MDF so it doesn’t look like MDF. Put a control panel there, a ventilation port there. That kind of stuff. It will build the dimensionality of the piece.
Statues! Whether some regular-size minis painted up like stone or steel or some dollar store action figures or something, those are usually featured in 40k stuff and could help bridge the upper and lower aesthetics together.
Mel, ref 15:25, two double height GW Silo's (verticle stack) and one single horizontal with gubbins and greebles, should fill the 1'x1' blank board. I would also suggest any 2'x2' interconnecting pipework fit a vent on the end and create a connection shroud or sleave.
Add scattered terrain that would fit a more industrial vibe, thinking small barrels maybe piles of trash, piping running along across the sections of the board. also closed hatches, or doors along some of the sides might go to spruce up and make the Ford feel like there's more to it beyond the playable area.
I'd seal and paint MDF first. Maybe add some greeblies. Then figure what plastic scatter terrain pieces to add. Color scheme depends on what you feel is best. No pressure, Mel! Enjoy the moment.
I like the use of the "Come back down..." to segue between camera shots. Can you poke out "door" shapes, that a marked on the walls, to create more routes through the tiles.
Problem solving LOVE that step!!!!!!! Great too see you working you magic Brother!!!!!!
Good to see you in my comments btw buddy ;-)
Great to see you back at it and happy Mel. Cant wait to see how this project progresses!
Looking great Mel,more than I can cope with ,so will stay with building my Normandy board
Those are some cool tiles. Had a look at their site and i need to place an order for my own kill team board. Thanks Mel!
You didn't magnetize your GW plastics? That's part of the fun.
As for greebling: cables, small diameter pipes, vents, scifi-ish bits made from pen caps, bottle lids, broken up squirty bottle heads and pound shop toys, etc. Utilise the unused bits of MDF sprue and toothpicks to make panels, framing, gauges, etc. Wire in some battery-powered fairy lights for mood lighting. Stick leftover bits from the GW kits to the MDF to integrate them.
For my two cents I’d say add a bunch of wires running along walls and draped along the bridge.
Broken guitar strings have good texture for this, along with string, embroidery thread, and wire of course 😁
I'm looking forward to you painting these!! Thank you for the video!
I think the scatter pieces at lower level, "the streets", should have some wrecks to hide behind. Either you keep them as scatter pieces that fit anywhere and keep the boards clean there or have them integrated but fixed. Game play should perhaps improve though never played kill team
I agree, crates and boxes (especially 1st Person Shooter exploding crates and barrels) could be fun; also, they could be kept separate from the tile to allow for more layouts.
@@euansmith3699 I was thinking more in line with proper vehicles and stuff. Toy cars destroyed with clippers and black spray paint :)
The GW plastics are all Sector Mechanicus by the looks of it so maybe see if you can 3D print some Adeptus Mechanicus symbols to cover up the plain MDF walls. If you really want to Grimdark it up, you could make some door servitors from the torsos and heads of human minis (I'd use zombies), then mount them on the walls and attach wires between the stumps of their missing limbs and whatever bit of tech they're controlling.
Whatever you do can't wait to see the finished product.
Love that idea!
industrial pipes for sure, perhaps some height on original box part looks good so far
Thanks Mel another amazing video.
Good to see you're still going strong!
This is gonna be the best Kill Team board ever. Awesome stuff, Mel!
I want to see more of this! I keep checking for the update :D
I have 6 of these on order to make a KT board also :) Though I won’t be permanently attaching any terrain to top as we play mission layouts also. Will be lighting the tunnels and I found terrain crate starship doors to add in places to break up the flat areas a bit
I’m curious to see a full 40k board built this way. Definitely not a board for vehicles tho, unfortunately. I love the idea of a board like this with roads wide enough to at least accommodate tanks going one way
I'm going for an enclosed cramp sort of feel with it mate
@@TheTerrainTutor ya, I get that. Just saying a “block” board like this that can be built and rearranged with others like it that can accommodate vehicles on the lower levels would be nice to see. For verticality and armor in the same game
Hoping you get going with this truly in 2024, the 40k/necromunda nutcases would be all over it
Its my next project mate
Looking SWEET BRO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have a TON of mantic sci fi terrain I'm planing on using for a star wars Mustifar build (HOPFULLY) this summer!!!! I printed around 400 droids so far
Thank you.
Mel, adding 3D printed "gribblies" to MDF terrain does absolute wonders! Take a look at Mortian site for ideas, it has a section of 3D printable stuff dedicated for GW's own Zone Mortalis terrain.
Miscast has a nice little packet of assets as well
Cheers bud
Great video! I would love to see an update on the progress when you have the time ;)
Hi Mel. If you're looking for some sci-fi scatter pieces, then check out Dungeons & Lasers Sci-Fi Customization Bits Miniature Set. It includes various vents, ammo & equipment crates, free standing computer display units, a medical bio-bed & separate manipulator 'arm', nuclear waste containers, light fittings and loads more.
out of stock in the UK mate but good shout!
Hardest part will be pulling the MDF into the upper layers. The texture stippling will do a great job tying different aspects together. Will you be using ash, rust or mars sand as the unifying theam? Love seeing this stage of a build (My personal favorite)!!!
It's gonna be a hell of a build mate!
great job and a lovely little mover 😂😂🤠🤠👍
Have you tried shopping in your local charity shops at all? I find all kinds of truly awesome stuff in the ones around where I live, and have found so many old super-squirter water guns that I've chopped up and made into sci-fi terrain (As well as the "Big At-Choo" Ork tank for a friend, made from a GW Baneblade chassis and added a slightly altered super-squirter rifle for the HUGE main gun. Now it's finished, she's rampaging across the table top, scaring the life out of her opponents, and demanding I build more like it for her, too :-D). I've also made some huge terrain pieces out of all the old plastic toy buildings and vehicles that I found in the toy bins of the charity shops, which have been donated to a local game club for under 16's, and they are VERY happy with what I made. I'm now building a massive, multi-layer, 6'x12' board for their larger WH40k games, and they've allowed me to use their clubhouse as a workshop in payment, so everyone is happy. I also have a "Glamorous Assistant" come into my sphere of weird and wonderful modelling life to help me as I go along. She's no Willow, but there's room for plenty of improvement yet :-D Loving seeing you back full of passion for the hobby again, and so glad to see your awesome kids involved at times with you, too. Keep posting these videos, and thanks for promoting your friend and his work, too, as I'd not heard of him, so will now check him and his products out for myself, and go from there :-) Love to all around you
I'd try to hide the grid a bit, fill some of the lines to create larger panels, cut lines between the lines to make smaller panels, cover them in texture or paint to hide the obvious grid. It might not matter in the game you are currently playing. But it will in games where you shouldn't be able to pre measure. You don't really want players to be able to look at the board and easily work out the distances.
Shouldn't be a problem once I've got it full painted up, but yeah, something to be conscious of.
Cant wait to see what you come up with!
Great video! Maybe add another 6x6 onto the 12x12 for more verticality. Looking forward to the next one :)
Really like the uncertainscenery mdf kits, but I'm across the pond, so haven't built up enough funds to order.
If this is a combat zone, I'd totally have some sort of tank or walker half-spilled into one of the lower areas and wrecked (though that might block it off, which could be sub-optimal).
It would be great terrain for judge Dredd
Build you two or three grain silos.with some catwalks.
Going to very much enjoy watching this!
Man those pieces from Craig make me want to start a Killteam board... and I don't even play Killteam.
I get that mate ;-)
Love your skills; love your show!
I'd would be thinking about abandoned street vender carts, recently evacuated s[ace.
Trash, toys, terrain-kits & 3d-prints, corrugated corrugated cardboard. Use it all on this board. Build sheds. and small temples
Nice! You are the best
cheap l.e.d Christmas lights from B&M/wilkos would be cool.
Nice! This is gonna be a great series 👌
Love you!
I'm really looking forward to seeing how this goes. If you haven't already, check out Magrathea's Necromunda builds for inspiration. ua-cam.com/play/PLI6y_cSc9z26V_n9OeZVZ6KfkERi6ugd0.html They're a fun rabbit hole to fall down, don't forget to come up for air!
I second that, the stuff he turns into his buildings is unbelievable!
Have a look at rapid table top or zorpazorp's old UA-cam post for necromunda and kill team terrain, respectively they mashed up all sorts of GW terrain. May give you some ideas?
Top vid mate.
Mel's high level bitbox.
Sorry for asking something that was probably said in the video; how does this compare to the "actual" killteam board size? Would a 2x3 of these be the right size?
The officially recommended board size for Kill Team is 22 by 30 inches I believe, but I imagine that going slightly larger with 24 by 36 inches would still be perfectly playable and enjoyable.
Excluding the pre-made plastic terrain which is a whole 'nother ball game; how much would you say it costs per 2x2 tile of MDF?
The 1x1 tiles are £40 each from Uncertain Scenery, so about £160 per 2x2. They do have some cheaper ranges though as well (which imo actually have some cooler tile options) which are £15 - £20 per 1x1 tile. So budget you could get a similar style 2x2 tile for like £60 - £80 quid
You can never use too much plastic glue! *g*
True
This MDF table looks fantastic is it possibly compatible with the TT combat MDF as well or is there a slight measurement discrepancy between the two companies?
I'll see if I can get some TT ones to compare mate
@@TheTerrainTutor thanks buddy & can’t wait to see how this project evolves as I’m very much thinking of possibly doing the same thing for Necromunda 👍🏼
How did this go on is there any updates on this board
bounsing of ideas on sunday i think
That sounds like a good idea
Where's the update to this?
Ooh, those spaces inside the boxy parts are really begging to be dolled up with LEDs and stuff...
Yeah, plus the side panels have removable parts to access inside them ;-)
Break an old computer up or power supply. Use the wires, the fans, chips, capacitors,... as gubbins. Then 3d print or buy shittons of skulls (or get it out of GW terrain, I got quite a bit out of killteam terrain). If you don't have a skull or skull motive every square inch you're not doing it grimdark enough :P
Where is this?
In my studio mate
Ohh. Have the tank look like it fell over and is spilled it’s contents all over years ago.
geil
Exposed tubing and electronic panels. And the Star Wars method of thing, thing, blank space where thing was but is only a rust stain now, thing.